1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Devin Gray is our UK correspondent with US now even 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: in Gevin, Hi, Heck, how bad is this? 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 2: Heck yeah, it's it's got really quite nasty now. So 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 2: this was potentially one of the worst ever cyber attacks 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: in the UK, with more than one thousand hospital and 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 2: GP appointments affected. That's general practitioner local doctor appointments affected. 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: Operations also canceled via the disruption to pathology services. The 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: hack was to a company called Synovis. Now they are 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: a provider to the National Health Service, particularly over basically 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 2: blood testing, and overnight the ransomware company has really come 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: out and dumped four hundred gigabytes of private information on 12 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 2: their darknet site and Telegram channel. The data includes patient names, 13 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: dates of birth, national Health Service numbers and then descriptions 14 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: of blood tests. We don't yet know if test results 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: are also in the data. There are also financial spreadsheets 16 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: detailing the contracts between hospitals, the local doctors and this 17 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 2: company too, so it is a massive fallout from this. 18 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: What would suggest has happened is that the National Health Service, 19 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: indeed Synovis, have refused to come up with any money 20 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: and to pay ransom for this hack to go away, 21 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: and that's why we've seen this data now being published. 22 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: Apparently healthcare is now the industry for these hackers to 23 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: try and get into. It's thought to be this group 24 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: called Kielin QILM and they've apparently made now the sort 25 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 2: of health services a big target after one health group 26 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: reportedly paid out roughly thirty eight million New Zealand dollars 27 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: earlier this year for a similar hack. 28 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 1: Given this bitching scandal that's going on with the election date, 29 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: is this going to weigh on Rishi's popularity, what little there. 30 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: Is left of it, well, and his credibility. I mean, 31 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: I think this is really really damaging to him. So 32 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: he was on Tea the last night in a televised 33 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: debate one to one with the other leaders of the 34 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 2: three other main parties, and in that he was asked 35 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: first question, straight off the bat about these claims that 36 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: a candidate had laid a bet on the date of 37 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: the election and that her husband, who was campaign director 38 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: of Rishi Sunac's team, is also in the frame for 39 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: allegedly placing a bet. Rishi Sunak said he's incredibly angry 40 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: with the quote, and then so but he couldn't say 41 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: much because all this is being investigated, and indeed it is. 42 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: But you know, the abuse of the gambling has very 43 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: tough laws here and could be a criminal offense if 44 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: it's proven. Now all those involved are denying responsibility. But 45 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 2: not only now. Is it three Conservatives who were either 46 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: candidates or quite high up in the machinations of the 47 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: Conservative Party that are alleged to put a bet on 48 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 2: the date of the election, but also one of the 49 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: senior protection officers of the Prime Minister. And you do 50 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 2: begin to think, well, hang on a minute. You know, 51 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: surely everyone was told this is illegal and you can't 52 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: do it. The date was a surprise. The date of 53 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: July the fourth for the general election was a surprise 54 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: to most people. So the odds of a July the 55 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: fourth would have been high at the bookmakers. And well, 56 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: it's had this effect, And as I said, I really 57 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 2: think it's a thing against the Prime Minister and his 58 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: credibility givin I. 59 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: Mean the fact that so many of them, I mean, 60 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: if one of them had gone a bit, you would think, okay, 61 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: that's really not cool. But the fact that so many 62 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: have done that, does that suggest that they've actually been 63 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: discussing it amongst themselves. 64 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: Or that are very wide full of people were discussing it. Yeah, 65 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: and they're simply on the fringes of it, and mean, 66 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: you just think it really digs in the credibility of politicians, 67 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: the integrity, the honesty of politicians. And I don't just 68 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: mean Rischie sine I do mean all around. And indeed 69 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: that's been a theme for many of the campaigns with 70 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: less than two weeks to go now before the general election, 71 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: about trying to get integrity back into politics is what 72 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: the opposition parties are saying. But of course you know 73 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: it's those other people. I mean, how could Rischie Sinek 74 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: have much sway over what a role protection or rather 75 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: what a protection squad officer from the police would say 76 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: if it's alleged that that is true as well. So gosh, 77 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 2: they're really I think it's down to trust and that's 78 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 2: a very very important word in an election to. 79 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: Write it does Gavin, Thank you very much. Talk to 80 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: you on Monday. Devin Gray are UK correspondent. 81 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: For more from Hither duplus e Allen Drive, listen live 82 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or 83 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.