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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty Find You're

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Speaker 2: Nichola Willis is with us after sex. Right now on

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Speaker 2: the huddle, We've got Tris Sherson from Sherson Willis pr

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Speaker 2: and Joseph Garni of Child Friend.

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Speaker 3: Hello you too, Hello Hello.

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Speaker 2: Do you think Trish that the U. S should have

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Speaker 2: bombed those Iranian nuclear sites?

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 4: And here's why. Number One, I don't trust the strategy

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Speaker 4: or the intent of the Trump administration. I don't trust

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Speaker 4: any of the facts that they're going to put out

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Speaker 4: around this. And in my view, what we know about

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Speaker 4: Trump is he's got a hero complex. So this is

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Speaker 4: the guy who said I'm going to fix the Ukraine

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Speaker 4: war within what was it a week or twenty four

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Speaker 4: hours after becoming president. To me, this reeks of another

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Speaker 4: one of his sort of flood the zone tactics. I'm

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Speaker 4: not doing what I said I'd do over here. He's

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Speaker 4: a president who said there would be the US would

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Speaker 4: not enter any more wars and hey, ho off off

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Speaker 4: he goes.

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Speaker 2: And do you leave it though? Do you leave them

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Speaker 2: just sitting there enriching that uranium. Do you just accept

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Speaker 2: that they want a new then they will have a new.

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Speaker 4: Well, I just I don't believe that they had reached

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Speaker 4: probably the threshold here. And in my view, as we

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Speaker 4: know that Israel were they have been itching to do something.

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Speaker 4: And as I say, this is more about me not

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Speaker 4: trusting the Trump administration to have done the work, to

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Speaker 4: have gone and at.

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Speaker 2: This point, Okay, what do you thinking.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, don't forget.

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Speaker 5: We had an agreement, the Joint Program for Action or

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Speaker 5: whatever it was called, that Obama negotiated with Iran for

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Speaker 5: them not to develop a nuclear weapon, and that was

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Speaker 5: actually going quite well. That the signs were and the

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Speaker 5: inspectors were seeing that the levels of ukrainium had gone down. Now,

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Speaker 5: you know, now Trump basically wrapped the whole thing up,

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Speaker 5: and that's partly why we're in this situation now. So

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Speaker 5: the problem is, you know, it's a big gamble, worst

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Speaker 5: case scenario Iran retali I mean they're talking about, you know,

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Speaker 5: blockading the Strait, stopping ships get through. There's hundreds of

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Speaker 5: thousands of US troops in the region. They could start

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Speaker 5: targeting those US troops, targeting embassies. They've still got some proxies.

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Speaker 5: So hamas Hesbala, yep, you know, collapsed and greatly weakened,

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Speaker 5: but they've still got the Hoho. Theis they've still got

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Speaker 5: you know, others in other areas, so you know, you

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Speaker 5: could unleash a sort of terror.

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Speaker 3: So it's a huge.

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Speaker 5: Gamble that Trump has taken. The US is taken, and

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Speaker 5: we know from history right here building a nuke, Oh,

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Speaker 5: I'm sure they were.

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Speaker 3: Look, these are bad guys.

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Speaker 2: Right, They're really bad. Do you do you believe they

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Speaker 2: were building a nutrient?

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Speaker 3: Yes? I do, I do.

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Speaker 5: There's no doubt that they have developing before you finish that.

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Speaker 5: The other thing to bear in mind, it's not just

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Speaker 5: the impact of will this escalate into Third World War?

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Speaker 5: And you look at the nineteen thirty eight we had

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Speaker 5: lots of unrelated centers of war Italy, Spain, Abyssinia, and

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Speaker 5: suddenly it all became World War Two. We've got the

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Speaker 5: similar situation here, lots of theaters of war Ukraine. But

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Speaker 5: the point is you know that they they if if Trump,

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Speaker 5: you know, if they do retaliate, it'll be awful. But

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Speaker 5: the other thing is that they by doing this, Trump

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Speaker 5: has shown that, you know, it's clearly illegal, it's not

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Speaker 5: self defense. The point about self defense is that has to.

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Speaker 2: Be okay, okay, but hang on a tack. So let's

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Speaker 2: accept we all three except that we believe that Aroun

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Speaker 2: was building a nuke? Right, So at what point? What

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Speaker 2: do you do, Trish to stop them getting to that point?

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Speaker 4: Well, this was a part of what was supposed to

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Speaker 4: be an ongoing negotiation to get what do you do.

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Speaker 2: It's now twenty twenty five or halfway through the year.

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Speaker 2: Trump's the preuce.

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Speaker 5: You signed the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's Trump. It did seven it did stop them, Heather,

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Speaker 2: but never mind what happened. What do you do now?

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Speaker 5: So now I think you you go back to the

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Speaker 5: negotiating table. I think the Millers and I many are

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Speaker 3: Is right now, I'm talking right now.

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Speaker 2: All the bombs right. What I'm trying to establish is

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Speaker 2: I can't see that there was another option, and I'm

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Speaker 2: happy to be told there was, but I can't see

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Speaker 2: that there was another option. Now, if you accept that

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Speaker 2: there's no other option, they are building a nuke. There's

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Speaker 2: no other option. You've got to bomb those sites. Then,

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Speaker 2: is now not the best time to bomb those sites,

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Speaker 2: because you've got you've got Hamas totally down, You've got

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Speaker 2: those other chaps has bollered down, you've got Rush.

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Speaker 5: Strategically yes, militarily yes, yes, but whether or not that's

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Speaker 5: the best thing to do to stop an escalation of

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Speaker 5: war in the Middle East and it but okay, I

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Speaker 5: accept that. I not scept that, But how negotiate and

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Speaker 5: how else do you stop that comprehensive plan of actions?

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Speaker 5: You try because they're weak, right, and they want to

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Speaker 5: see those sanctions lifted from the US. And I actually

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Speaker 5: think you're in a really strong position.

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Speaker 2: Okay, do you don't forget you talk first before the bombs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and don't forget. Iran has always looked to negotiate,

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Speaker 4: So this, despite this being a shocking regime, Yes, they

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Speaker 4: have always worked to negotiate. And the issue I have here,

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Speaker 4: it's highlighted again by Trump today, who's saying, you know, oh,

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Speaker 4: you know, now this is about getting a regime change. Well,

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Speaker 4: that that is not the purpose of going in and

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Speaker 4: bombing these sites, and so that that is the problem

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Speaker 4: that we've got as the world now is not being

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Speaker 4: able to trust the foundation for this, the information for

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Speaker 4: this or or really what we have no idea now

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Speaker 4: what might happen.

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Speaker 5: And hopefully what we hope for is it's a bit

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Speaker 5: like when General Slamna was assassinated, and that was under

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Speaker 5: the last Trump administration, where there was a sort of

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Speaker 5: escalate into Third World War. Then there was a token

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Speaker 5: tit for tat, and I hope that's what will happen now.

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Speaker 5: There'll be some token tip for tat, some you know,

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Speaker 5: Iran will react in some way. It'll be enough to

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Speaker 5: for God's sake, Trump.

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Speaker 3: Has to shut up about regime change.

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Speaker 2: Take a break and come back to you, guys.

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Speaker 2: Are you back with the heart altricious? And Joseph Beganni right, Josie,

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Speaker 2: So what do you think of Caleb Clark getting the

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Speaker 2: discharge without conviction?

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Speaker 5: Well, I feel like it's his first offense. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's just a police chop aright, that's I didn't know

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Speaker 3: Heaven. When I heard you say that, I was thinking.

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Speaker 5: All the police chopper was out. But I do think

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Speaker 5: if you you know, this is whole thing. Oh you're

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Speaker 5: an all black, you're getting special treatments, but also as

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Speaker 5: an all black, you shouldn't get worse treatment, right, Both

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Speaker 5: of those things are true, and I look at that

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Speaker 5: just remove the fact that.

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Speaker 3: He's an all black.

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Speaker 5: He's clearly hugely remorseful, his family normal.

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Speaker 4: No, to me, it's the it's the running from the cops.

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Speaker 4: We've all done dumb stuff and broke We've all run

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Speaker 4: with the cops. Well no, no, no, no, no, we've

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Speaker 4: all broken the speed limit.

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Speaker 3: But it's the girlfriend.

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Speaker 4: But it's the decision to run from the cops that

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Speaker 4: elevates this. And the big issue here is not the

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Speaker 4: number of times that police chasers have ended in other

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Speaker 4: people getting seriously injured and harmed.

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Speaker 5: It's a really realizes that, Trish. From what I've seen

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Speaker 5: of the interviews afterwards, he cried and caught. He's gone

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Speaker 2: Josie, I am not trying to pick on Caleb. No,

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Speaker 2: I'm not asking for Caleb to get a really tough punishment.

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Speaker 2: I just think it is mental that in this country,

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Speaker 2: charge with that conviction, and that should not be normal, shouldn't.

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Speaker 5: No, I think I understand what you're saying this and

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Speaker 5: is there a it would be interesting to look at

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Speaker 5: other cases that might be similar. I mean, I hope

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Speaker 5: not too many cases similar with the chopper out, but

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Speaker 4: It's it's it's the question of whether this is normal.

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Speaker 4: We don't know whether it is. But the worrying thing

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Speaker 4: I think that's the thing because people start to lose faith.

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Speaker 5: Why was he running from the cops?

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Speaker 5: See, that's the question I have.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, he did.

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Speaker 3: It didn't sound like he was boozed day.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't boozed.

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Speaker 3: No, No, he definitely wasn't.

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't even sound like he was excessively speeding

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Speaker 5: Mum, I'm very glad that he's no longer riding a

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Speaker 5: motorbike like my son. That's blessing.

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Speaker 3: Take that one away.

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Speaker 2: Hey, listen very quickly. I just want to pick your

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Speaker 2: brains about something you guys, Trisha, do you sauna after

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Speaker 2: your cold plunge every morning?

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Speaker 3: No, intimately I do.

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Speaker 4: I don't. I'm a cold girl, not a hot girl.

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Speaker 4: So I'm the kind of person I look at a

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Speaker 4: spar pole on a cold wednesdaight and I go, oh,

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Speaker 4: that'd be nice, and then I get him five minutes

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Speaker 4: or not in five thirty.

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Speaker 3: Seconds of life thing. I know you don't like this.

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Speaker 4: This is not a time of life thing, but thank you.

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Speaker 4: This is more more of am I like. I like cold,

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Speaker 4: cold water and and being refreshed by cold water. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, situation saunas?

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Speaker 1: Do you?

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Speaker 2: I love that because you live in Wellington where it

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Speaker 2: literally is like your summer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's true.

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Speaker 5: Yeah you need a sauna, but no, I think it

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Speaker 5: feels a real clean heat. I get white people in

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Speaker 5: a sitting in it. Well I was I was stauner. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: well I was still swimming in the ocean on the weekend,

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Speaker 5: so I find.

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Speaker 2: That very Did you go for a dip in your

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Speaker 4: I went for a dip in my pool at six

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Speaker 4: thirty this morning, which was you got.

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Speaker 5: A pool, Trish, you got a pool?

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Speaker 3: No, I haven't got pool. I haven't got either. I'm

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Speaker 3: so sorry I have something.

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Speaker 2: Don't You live on a gigantic block of land.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure here that's going to get into the cold

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Speaker 4: plunges shortly.

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Speaker 2: the pool to get the leaves out. Yeah, because we

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Speaker 2: live in Aukland. Lord, I stuck it in because I've

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Speaker 2: got summer. Anyway, that was cold.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We're not going in that for a while, are we

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Speaker 2: any all? Thank you very much, ladies appreciate it, Trishas

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