1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Can you trust Winston Peters not to go with Labor 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: next year? That is the question on everybody's lips, and 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: the answer is no, you can't. He hasn't ruled it out. 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: And remember you will remember that he went with Desinda 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen, even though National got a high proportion 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: of the vote. Labour has not ruled Winston out. Winston 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: has not ruled Labor out. Winston has ruled Chippy out. 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: So all that means is we could see a leadership 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: swap in the last seven weeks of the campaign, bug 10 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: of the unions and even during negotiations. All these things 11 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: are possible. Hopkins is a party man and if the 12 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: choice was opposition for his caucus or the Treasury benches, 13 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: he would fall on his sword. So it's a live scenario. 14 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: Is Labor and New Zealand first? If they, I should 15 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: say Labor and New Zealand first get enough to form 16 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: a coalition together, wouldn't Winston prefer that to another threesome 17 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: on the right. He hates Chippy because of COVID and 18 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: what is a woman malfunction at that press conference. But 19 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: the party's been working hard to shake the overly wokey 20 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: dopey vibe since then. Also, Winston doesn't like Seymour, and 21 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: if there was a chance for him to extract big 22 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: spending policies, some regional funding, you know they love that 23 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: at New Zealand first manufacturing energy deals, more gold card benefits, 24 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: whatever it might be, I reckon he would go for it. 25 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: The scenario becomes much less likely if the Greens and 26 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: whatever might be left of Tapati Mardi needing to prop 27 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: them up. He hates them much more than he hates 28 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: Seymour and would look stupid going into government with a 29 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: green handshake and a hongy. The rule with Winston is 30 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: pretty simple. All options are on the table, and this 31 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: time next year, as summer approaches in the weather warms, 32 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: will be staking out his beach house and the Crowbar 33 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: villa in Auckland, waiting on the Kingmaker for more from 34 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live to News Talks 35 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: it Be from five am weekdays, or follow the podcast 36 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.