1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Bryant Bridge, a new billionaire investor into enz into the 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: media company enz ME, which owns Senior Zealand Herald and 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: this station news Talk ZEBB, is wanting a clean out 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: of the company's board. Auckland based Canadian Jim Grennan has 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: told the company's board he wants to remove most of 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: the current directors. Concern is now growing amongst journalists and 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: staff about a possible move or a shift in editorial direction. 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: Michael Wood is the negotiation specialist at E two. He's 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: with me tonight. Hi Michael, Hi, what role are you 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: playing here? 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: Well, as you can imagine, this is a significant interest 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: to our members, so many of the journalists at NZME 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: and as the union who represents them, we're working through 14 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: this issue with them, and I think it's fair to 15 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: say that the primary primary concern here is to ensure 16 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: that journalists are able to continue doing their job with 17 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: genuine editorial independence, without fear or favor. And the concern 18 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 2: here is that we clearly have an individual who is 19 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 2: highly motivated to take control of a major media entity 20 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 2: in New Zealand, who is doing so quite clearly was 21 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: the intent of promulgating a particular political perspective, and there 22 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: are real concerns about what that might mean for the 23 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: editorial independence of journalists are at Dyemans. 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: Obviously, this has a process to go through. I mean, 25 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: you can't just overtake a board, right, so there's a 26 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: process that has to go through and there will be 27 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: other investors who will have to decide on this. 28 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: That's right. There's clearly a commercial process which is playing 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: out here. But again one of the concerns here is 30 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: it's pretty cloak and daggers. When this individual originally took 31 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: a stake in the company last week, the comments he 32 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: made rule about dampening down any suggestion that there was 33 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: a bigger play here. And then this week, of course 34 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: we have learned that there is in fact a bigger play, 35 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: which is a move to potentially try and take over 36 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: the board and to install other people like minded people, 37 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: and some names have been reported on in that respect. 38 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 2: So there's not any openness or transparency here. There has 39 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: been no commitment made by mister Grennan to those principles 40 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: of editorial independence, which is critical. I remember we're talking 41 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: about one of the major media organizations in New Zealand. 42 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 2: It has a huge impact on our public's discourse in 43 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: New Zealand. Held has often been thought of as New 44 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 2: Zealand's paper of record. And we've never had a situation 45 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: where a particular individual with a lot of money and 46 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: a lot of power and a lot of influence has said, yeah, 47 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: I want that, and I want it because I want 48 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 2: to get my views out there. This is new territory 49 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: for New Zealand and we don't think that would be 50 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: healthy for our media environment. 51 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: We don't know, of course, any of this yet, this 52 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: is speculation. 53 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: Well, mister Greennan has purchased a significant stake. He has 54 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: gone on record today as saying that he wants to 55 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: create a position whereby he installed the majority of board members. 56 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 2: He has made a claim that he has support of 57 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: thirty seven percent of shareholders for that plan. As you 58 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: said before, there's clearly a corporate process which is playing 59 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 2: out here, but he has now laid out a very 60 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: clear plan in this area. And the background to that 61 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: as well is that mister Greenna has engaged in the 62 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: New Zealand media environment. He has set up a publication, 63 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: a network previously called The Centrist was a specific goal 64 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: about influencing the public discourse in New Zealand. So this 65 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 2: doesn't seem like an individual who is going in simply 66 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: because he wants to make a commercial investment, which is 67 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: what we normally get in the media environment. Mister Green 68 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: appears to be an individual who wants to make this 69 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: investment and wants to have this influence on the board 70 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: to push a particular agenda. And that's what makes us 71 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: different and worrying to other changes in courtporate media ownership 72 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: that we've seen over the years. 73 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: Okay, Michael, I really appreciate you coming on the program. 74 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: Michael Wood, who's a negotiation specialist at the Two Union. 75 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: For more from Heather Duplessy, Allen Drive Listen Lived and 76 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: used to book Said Be from four pm weekdays, or 77 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio