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Speaker 1: Afternoon. The government is loosening liquor licensing rules. Only locals

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Speaker 1: will now be able to object, and ministers will be

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Speaker 1: able to invene with intervene without legislation for major televised events.

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Speaker 1: Nicole McKee is the Associate Justice ministan with US Now.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Nicole, good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 1: Were you getting objections from outside the local area?

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Speaker 2: Yes, we were. In fact, I had one bar owner

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Speaker 2: that told me he received an objection that came from

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Speaker 2: the United Kingdom, so it was more than just being

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Speaker 2: outside of their local territorial authority areas.

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Speaker 1: Why is anyone in the UK interested?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good question, and I think that's

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Speaker 2: why we need to look to limit who can object.

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Speaker 2: We want to make sure that the serious concerns are

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Speaker 2: able to be voiced by those within the community, but

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Speaker 2: it should be those within the territorial authorities which make

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Speaker 2: the decisions that should be able to make those objections.

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Speaker 1: Is it someone who is anti liquor? Is that kind

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Speaker 1: of thing?

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Speaker 2: Well, I never got down to who it was. I

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Speaker 2: was more gobsmacked that it came from over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what about the police approach to it? Because a

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Speaker 1: lot of the problems have been caused by the fact

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Speaker 1: that the police are really keen to shut the stuff down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I can understand why they're really keen to

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Speaker 2: shut some stuff down, but I've had to find a

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Speaker 2: balance here and I thought it was really important to

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Speaker 2: do so. The majority of New Zealanders that drink drink responsibly,

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Speaker 2: and I want to make sure that they have the

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Speaker 2: opportunity to do that. We want to regrow our sector,

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Speaker 2: so it means also having tourism, having people been able

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Speaker 2: to go out there and enjoy a night out. And

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Speaker 2: while we have some harm stop people from getting out

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Speaker 2: there and socializing, we need some good stories in the news.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. Well, why the ministerial intervention for major televised events.

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Speaker 2: Well, this really is so that we can go out

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Speaker 2: there and celebrate good things like Rugby World Cup without

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Speaker 2: having to do a legislative change or order in council

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Speaker 2: every single time. So we're basically saying, if there's a

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Speaker 2: big event like the Rugby World Karpa, something that's happening

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Speaker 2: that's outside of our time zones, the pubs can open.

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Speaker 2: Have seen success with that in the past, and we're

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Speaker 2: basically saying ministers can do that again. In the future

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Speaker 2: without having to go through the ordering council and cabinet

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Speaker 2: process to make it happen.

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Speaker 1: And one of the other things that you're doing is

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Speaker 1: the online verification of age. What are you changing here?

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Speaker 2: Yes, we're making sure that the digital identity credentials can

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Speaker 2: be used as evidence of age documents once we get

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Speaker 2: that framework up and running. So we're future proofing the

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Speaker 2: way that we can check ID into the future. And

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Speaker 2: this means that deliveries of alcohol at home, those rapid deliveries,

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Speaker 2: for example, can be easily verified and checked upon when

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Speaker 2: somebody places an order.

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Speaker 1: Is this the same kind of verification that you'd be

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Speaker 1: able to use for social media? It may be.

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Speaker 2: But in saying that hither, I we know that party

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Speaker 2: are not in agreement with the restrictions on social media,

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Speaker 2: and I know you are. Our concern is how do

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Speaker 2: you enforce it? But let's not say no to everything.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what this framework can develop or not it

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Speaker 2: can be utilized internationally as well.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff, Hey, Nicole, Thanks so much, Nicole McKee, Associate

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