1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: All right, so complete about face from the police now, 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: and they are going to give us the ethnicities, are they? 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: Yes, that looks like the guidance that's been issued to them. However, 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: it is fairly wooly and still allows each different force 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: to sort of go about things in a different way. 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 2: So here in the UK the police are different, split 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 2: in different geographical regions, of course, and they all have 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: their own bosses. But what now the National Police Chiefs 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: Council is saying is that they should be encouraged to 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: disclose the ethnicity and nationality of suspects charged in high 11 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: profile and sensitive investigations. Again, so much of this is 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: open to their interpretation. What the aim, of course is 13 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: is to reduce the risk to public safety where there 14 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 2: are high levels of misinformation about an incident, and that 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 2: of course very much follows on a series of high 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: profile cases now, some of which have led to some 17 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: violence or protests on the streets. So there is a 18 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: series of high profile cases in I guess a lot 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: couple of months, including two men reported to be Afghan 20 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 2: asylum seekers charged over the alleged rape of a twelve 21 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: year old girl in the Midlands, and of course people 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 2: got immediately very very upset about that and they want 23 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: more information from the police. This all stems, incidentally, from 24 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: just over a year ago with the awful stabbing of 25 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: those young girls during a dance summer dance class in 26 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: Southport in northwest England, where information about the man who 27 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: was now in prison for it as or Ruder Bakana 28 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: was spreading like wildfire across the across the social media. 29 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: It was false in that he was not an asylum seeker, 30 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 2: but parts of it were true in that his parents 31 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: had come from Africa, etc. So that's why they tried 32 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: to do that, and that's why there was another incident 33 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: you'll remember the Liverpool football club parade was rammed into 34 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: by a car. The police very quickly said this is 35 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: a man from Liverpool who is a British national. So 36 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: there are changes and now this will I may get 37 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: slightly easier for the police to get through this puzzle 38 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: of how much information to release? 39 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: Yea far enough. How's it going with the migrant arrivals 40 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: via boat? 41 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: Well, there is now a target that the new Labor 42 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: government here will not have wanted to have hit so early. 43 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: So thirteen months in to their government, the politicians have 44 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: had to admit that now the number of people crossing 45 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: in small boats has passed fifty thousand. The figures were 46 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: updated about twelve fourteen hours ago and were updated where 47 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: a further four hundred and seventy four arrived in a 48 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: single day labour when they came to power pledged to 49 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: smash the people smuggling gangs and reduced channel crossing numbers. 50 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: But opponents saying, look, this is just a slogan. You've 51 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: done nothing, You've lost control of the borders. This fifty 52 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 2: thousand figure is thirteen thousand higher than for the same 53 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 2: period last year. The government's pointing to its new one 54 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: in one out turns deal that we were reporting on 55 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: a week or so ago, Heather, and they say it's 56 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: going to act as a de terror Well, there's no 57 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: sign of it working yet, and plenty of people in 58 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: this country field. We've been taken for a ride, Devin. 59 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: Where do the cops get all these flesh cars from? 60 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: They have finally grown wise to the fact that many 61 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: people predominantly from the Middle East and very wealthy, ship 62 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: over they're very very expensive racing cars into the center 63 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: of London to show them off to their friends. Each 64 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: summer and then ship them back to their country of 65 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: where they live, and we are talking incredible wealthare including 66 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: an identical pair of purple Laborghinis. Anyway, police have been 67 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: told by many local residents that the driving around of 68 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: these very noisy, very high performance vehicles, particularly at night, 69 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: has become quite dangerous, and so they've seized seventy two 70 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: vehicles worth about fourteen million South African rand in a 71 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: three day operation across some very Swiss boroughs of Southwest London, 72 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: High Park, Kensington, Chelsea. The drivers have been issued with 73 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: a ticket for a variety of motoring offenses and this 74 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: is very interesting, Heather, including driving with no insurance, no 75 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: driving license. They've either been disqualified, false documentation and the 76 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: use of fraudulent number plates. Now lots of them bring 77 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: cars to the UK assuming their insurance in their home 78 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 2: country is valid here in the UK it often is not. 79 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: Their driving licenses often not and the idea that some 80 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: other are disqualified, have no insurance and are driving around 81 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 2: the center of London is frankly alarming. 82 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: Wow. Hey, thank you very much for that, Gvin. Appreciate it. 83 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: Gevin Gray, UK correspondent. For more from hither, Duplessy Alan Drive. 84 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 2: Listen live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 85 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio