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Speaker 2: Use YORKSBB by the Cure to Good Afternoon. Welcome into

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Speaker 2: the Sunday edition of Weekend Sport on News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: Last one before Christmas, December twenty one, Happy forty eighth

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Speaker 2: birthday to fifty six test All Black and former All

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Speaker 2: Blacks assistant coach Leon McDonald. I'm Jason Pine Show produced

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Speaker 2: today by Isaiah Aberdingo. We're here till three talking sport.

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Speaker 2: What a time it's been for Kiwi skier Alice Robinson

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Speaker 2: to World Cup Giant slalom wins. Then last weekend she

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Speaker 2: G discipline. With the Winter Olympics fast approaching, this is

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Speaker 2: all looking very exciting for her. Alice Robinson on the

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Speaker 2: show today after one will also check in with General

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Speaker 2: Manaja of High Performance at Snowsports New Zealand Luke Hetzel

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Speaker 2: to get a wider view on his hopes for the

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Speaker 2: upcoming Winter Games, Alice Robinson has to be a huge

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Speaker 2: medal chance, so to Zoe Sadowski Sinnate, who's already of

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Speaker 2: course won three Winter Olympics medals. What about the others

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Speaker 2: be our best Winter Games ever? First up today, though,

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Speaker 2: World Rugby will trial a lower legal tackle height during

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty six Under twenty World Championship in Georgia.

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Speaker 2: World Rugby's Chief Player, Welfare and Rugby Services Officer Mark

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Speaker 2: Harrington is standing by the chat with us about this

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Speaker 2: major development? Are we headed this way in test rugby?

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Speaker 2: This has been trialed in the community game in many

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Speaker 2: countries around the world, including New Zealand's. Now it's going

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Speaker 2: into the Under twenty World Championship next year. So how

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Speaker 2: far down the path are we to this actually being

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Speaker 2: picked up at test level? I know you have some thoughts.

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Speaker 2: I'm very keen to hear those other matters around today.

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Speaker 2: Extraordinary performance from the Wellington Phoenix women yesterday their biggest

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Speaker 2: Priestman with us. Can the men emulate the women when

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Speaker 2: they play the Central Coast Mariners this afternoon, while Phoenix

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Speaker 2: fans will certainly be hoping so. Captain Alex Rufer on

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Speaker 2: our country's brightest young talents, Isa Prinz is also with

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Speaker 2: us to quite a bit of football for you after two.

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Speaker 2: We've also got some Auckland FC tickets to give away

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Speaker 2: for their game on New Year's Day. James mcconey is

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Speaker 2: along as well in his regular Sunday slot Live Sport

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Speaker 2: this afternoon. Test cricket on both sides of the Tasman

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Speaker 2: Day four of the third and final cricket Test between

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Speaker 2: the black Caps and West Indies under way at Bayoval.

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Speaker 2: As you heard in our Sports news to West Indies

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Speaker 2: all out for four hundred and twenty after resuming this

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Speaker 2: morning at three point eighty one for six. A pretty

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Speaker 2: good mop up job by New Zealand Jacob Duffy four

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Speaker 2: wickets a Jazz Betel three. That is a lead of

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty five with well over five sessions

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Speaker 2: remaining in this Test match. Regular updates from Andrew Alderson

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Speaker 2: at Bayoval. We're with them actually for the first time

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Speaker 2: England resuming two hundred and seven for six in their

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Speaker 2: World Rugby will trial a lower legal tackle height during

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Speaker 2: The tackle height will move from the shoulder to the sternum,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good morning, Jason, and thanks for having me so listen.

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Speaker 3: We've known for a long time. There's a bit of

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Speaker 3: So we've been striving for a while to see what

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Speaker 3: So we analyze one hundred and fifty thousand tackles both

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Speaker 3: What it's also shown us in some countries that have

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Speaker 3: club rugby men's community reduced by fifty two percent and

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Speaker 3: They were the feedback came back and the Community Rugby

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Speaker 3: The other part the elite end, there has never been

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Speaker 4: That's five six week competition.

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Speaker 3: And look, though some of those numbers I talked about earlier,

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Speaker 3: we're seeing less upright tackles by about in the men's

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Speaker 3: we're really really interested and genuinely open to seeing what

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Speaker 2: Wow, well, fantastic overview, Mark. I'd like to just throw

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Speaker 2: all down into a couple of things. The other twenty

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Speaker 2: Championship also going to trial associated law measures. Now, whenever

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Speaker 2: there's always the people who say, what about situations close

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Speaker 3: Yeah, essentially, and again this came from those meetings I

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Speaker 4: We know that.

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Speaker 3: Pick and goes and often close contact try scoring, that

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Speaker 4: So there's a couple of things we've done.

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Speaker 3: We've said, where is a pick and go within a

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Speaker 4: Think more about the sternham height.

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Speaker 3: Being applicable in open field play, right and similarly in

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Speaker 2: And rightly so. The other one I see here, Mark

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Speaker 4: The whole elite game is going to change.

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Speaker 3: This will be as it has to be, will be

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Speaker 2: Time, Mark, did you find that in the community leve

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Speaker 3: Absolutely that that's consistent across the globe. Actually, yeah, very

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: If the tackle height is the sternam and it goes

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: The lowering to the sternham. Then have you considered a

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Speaker 2: Indeed, and finally mark from a wider sense, how do

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Speaker 2: Then great to hear Mark, You've given us a terrific

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Speaker 2: next year and look forward to staying in touch. Thanks

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Speaker 4: Christmas, pleasure, Jason, thanks very much, No.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Indeed, Mark, that is Mark Harrington,

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Speaker 2: if you get a tackle to the shoulders wrong, you

434
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Speaker 2: hit the head, get a tackle to the sternum wrong,

435
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Speaker 2: you hit the shoulders, that's clearly a better outcome. So

436
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Speaker 2: for the community game, big tick, very happy with it.

437
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Speaker 2: The elite game, what will it mean? Will there be

438
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Speaker 2: a feeling out period? Clearly you'd have to try it.

439
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Speaker 2: If they're going to move it into the elite game

440
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Speaker 2: at test level, well they're not going to have time

441
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Speaker 2: before the next World Cup. That's far too close. They

442
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Speaker 2: don't have enough time to get it all squared away

443
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Speaker 2: by then. I think a lot of people will be

444
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Speaker 2: watching with great interest what happens at the World Championship

445
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Speaker 2: next year and whether will we further expansion of this

446
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Speaker 2: keen you here thoughts. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty

447
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Speaker 2: is our number nine two nine to two for your text.

448
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Speaker 2: A few ticks coming through, but happy to kick this

449
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Speaker 2: around with you. I know it's nearly Christmas. I know

450
00:24:53,987 --> 00:24:55,747
Speaker 2: that there's lots of other things going on, but if

451
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Speaker 2: you do have the inclination pick up the phone. I

452
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Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eighty twenty nine away from one

453
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Speaker 2: new stalk, sa'd be.

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Speaker 1: The biggest things in sports are on weekends for it,

455
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Speaker 1: we'd say some time and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most

456
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Speaker 1: trusted home builder, News talks.

457
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Speaker 2: They'd be news talks. There'll be twenty six to one

458
00:25:13,947 --> 00:25:15,507
Speaker 2: going to get you to bay Oval and also the

459
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Speaker 2: Adelaide Oval in the next twenty minutes or so. Australia

460
00:25:18,707 --> 00:25:23,667
Speaker 2: need four wickets to retain the Ashes. Meantime, New Zealander

461
00:25:23,667 --> 00:25:26,147
Speaker 2: building a lead at Bayoval. They're ten without loss and

462
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Speaker 2: their second innings a lead of one hundred and sixty

463
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Speaker 2: five with all ten second innings wickets in hand. Peter

464
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Speaker 2: says this assumes only ball runners get head injuries. I

465
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Speaker 2: got can cast more as a tackler when I played,

466
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Speaker 2: Thanks Pete. Yeah, and talking to Mark Harrington there clearly

467
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Speaker 2: there is work to be done, ongoing work to be

468
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Speaker 2: done around the tackler as well.

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Speaker 6: Hello Phil, gooday pony, how are.

470
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Speaker 2: You very good? Thanks mate? How you getting on?

471
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Speaker 7: Not too bad? Thanks, not too bad. I thought I

472
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Speaker 7: heard you talking to the lady the Sunday Show when

473
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Speaker 7: she was doing before your show. I thought I was

474
00:26:02,867 --> 00:26:05,827
Speaker 7: going to be saying, oh, miss your show and tools

475
00:26:06,467 --> 00:26:08,227
Speaker 7: next year, But you're going right through.

476
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm not taking phil. If you're not taking

477
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Speaker 2: a break from listening, then I won't take a break

478
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Speaker 2: from talking. How's that?

479
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Speaker 7: That sounds good? You keep talking and I'll keep listening.

480
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Speaker 2: Fair enough, mate, enough? What do you think about this?

481
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Speaker 2: What do you think about these these tackle height changes?

482
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Speaker 2: What are your initial thoughts having listened to Mark Harrington

483
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Speaker 2: at a World Rugby.

484
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Speaker 7: Well, I just I'll put another little equipp in there

485
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Speaker 7: as well, pointing no rest for the work at as

486
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Speaker 7: they say, absolutely, yeah, no, I think it's quite good. Actually,

487
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Speaker 7: I quite like what they're doing. I thought that. I

488
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Speaker 7: thought that, you know, like you said, how it's gonna

489
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Speaker 7: work in elite rugby. They don't know at the stage,

490
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Speaker 7: but I think it's a good move in all other cases,

491
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Speaker 7: because I was thinking that the one thing that it'll

492
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Speaker 7: do too is it'll promote good habits when you go

493
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Speaker 7: into the elite rugby. You know of tackling, tackling lower

494
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Speaker 7: down and cutting out the high shot maybe the high

495
00:27:16,467 --> 00:27:18,827
Speaker 7: shot things. It will promote good technique in that, you know,

496
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Speaker 7: and safer technique as you go up the grades, which

497
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Speaker 7: if you're lucky enough to make it at an elite level,

498
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Speaker 7: which will then just naturally take into an elite level,

499
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Speaker 7: you know. So I thought that would be a good thing,

500
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Speaker 7: and that must be a good thing. With so many

501
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Speaker 7: countries trial and what was an eleven and have been

502
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Speaker 7: doing it for a while and mostly it's been a

503
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Speaker 7: pretty positive outcome.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I.

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Speaker 7: Thought it can't do any harm, you know. And if

506
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Speaker 7: it's if it's gonna helicopter has just gone over, so

507
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Speaker 7: I hope that doesn't.

508
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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 2: Well, while it's there, I'm going to keep you on.

510
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Speaker 2: But you make a great point about learning tackle technique,

511
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Speaker 2: because obviously players coming through will start in the community game,

512
00:28:00,067 --> 00:28:03,347
Speaker 2: they'll start in club rugby, school rugby, and as you say,

513
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Speaker 2: the ones who progress will move into the elite system.

514
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Speaker 2: So even if this isn't expanded into the elite game,

515
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Speaker 2: the very fact that any new player to the game

516
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Speaker 2: will be learning to tackle stern him down, I think

517
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Speaker 2: is a good thing. Phil. I think you've landed on

518
00:28:20,867 --> 00:28:21,747
Speaker 2: a really good point there.

519
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I think so. I I just blood he

520
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Speaker 7: lost me chain. I thought too, because I had a

521
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Speaker 7: couple of other things that were related to Oh, that's right,

522
00:28:31,267 --> 00:28:35,627
Speaker 7: you'll thank God for that's come back. The wise connectors reconnected.

523
00:28:36,227 --> 00:28:38,267
Speaker 7: And I thought it was a great thing too that

524
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Speaker 7: he said that the TMO is not going to have

525
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Speaker 7: any say in it, because, like you, I was thinking, Jesus,

526
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Speaker 7: the TMO got to say, and this will be stopping

527
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Speaker 7: every two minutes and be debating every second, you know,

528
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Speaker 7: every two seconds about whether tackle was figh or lower

529
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Speaker 7: above the threshold or whatever.

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Speaker 9: You know.

531
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Speaker 7: So I was thinking, that's great that the TMO is

532
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Speaker 7: not going to be involved as well.

533
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the main thing for me, Phil, Honestly, Phil,

534
00:29:02,587 --> 00:29:04,227
Speaker 2: that was the main thing for me when I heard it.

535
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Speaker 2: I said that before when I heard about that, and

536
00:29:06,667 --> 00:29:10,307
Speaker 2: I thought, Okay, any change like this, any significant change

537
00:29:10,347 --> 00:29:14,467
Speaker 2: like this, I could just see, you know, endless stoppages

538
00:29:14,547 --> 00:29:18,187
Speaker 2: as as a TMO said to a referee, you might

539
00:29:18,227 --> 00:29:20,067
Speaker 2: want to look at that one that's above the sternum

540
00:29:20,147 --> 00:29:23,107
Speaker 2: or that's you know. I'm just so thankful that common

541
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Speaker 2: sense will prevail and I mean listen, female will still

542
00:29:26,987 --> 00:29:29,627
Speaker 2: you know a judge headshots that the referee misses, but

543
00:29:29,787 --> 00:29:31,547
Speaker 2: thank goodness, they're not going to be can't be able

544
00:29:31,587 --> 00:29:33,467
Speaker 2: to come in and say, hey, that one was you know,

545
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Speaker 2: a couple of centimeters above the sternum. If the referee

546
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Speaker 2: has had a good look at it and hasn't seen

547
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Speaker 2: anything wrong with it, then it's play on for me.

548
00:29:40,307 --> 00:29:42,027
Speaker 2: It is play on for me. Hey, pil I've got

549
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Speaker 2: to get to Andy and Adelaide. Hope you have a

550
00:29:43,747 --> 00:29:46,107
Speaker 2: great Christmas mate, No doubt we'll talk. We might even

551
00:29:46,147 --> 00:29:48,427
Speaker 2: talk next week before the new year. But I've enjoyed

552
00:29:48,467 --> 00:29:51,947
Speaker 2: your calls and your conversation immensely in twenty twenty five. Phil,

553
00:29:52,067 --> 00:29:55,027
Speaker 2: I hope you have a very relaxing we break. And

554
00:29:55,787 --> 00:29:58,267
Speaker 2: if you flick the phone down and flip the radio

555
00:29:58,307 --> 00:30:00,547
Speaker 2: back on, you'll hear your great mate Andy McDonnell, who

556
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Speaker 2: was currently watching the you'd have to think closing stages

557
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Speaker 2: of the retention of the ash Anne McDonald Adelaide Oval,

558
00:30:08,427 --> 00:30:10,707
Speaker 2: how's the weather today? Looks a bit cloudy on Telly.

559
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Speaker 9: Biny I tell you what, this is the coldest twenty

560
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Speaker 9: four degrees I've ever been and I've been rocking thing

561
00:30:17,147 --> 00:30:20,747
Speaker 9: and studies all five days, avoiding maybe to avoid sunburn.

562
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Speaker 9: It's cool. I'd say it's a bit of a north westerly,

563
00:30:25,347 --> 00:30:28,987
Speaker 9: which is weird to say in Australia that it's cool,

564
00:30:29,067 --> 00:30:30,867
Speaker 9: but yeah, it is cool, a little bit of drizzle

565
00:30:31,787 --> 00:30:34,227
Speaker 9: and pretty dark. They've just put the lights on here

566
00:30:34,227 --> 00:30:36,947
Speaker 9: at the Oval, which has sort of almost come as

567
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Speaker 9: a bit of a bit of a shock to the

568
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Speaker 9: system to me. But it's I mean, I imagine conditions

569
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Speaker 9: like this will probably only only benefit the second new ball.

570
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Speaker 9: I forget to that point.

571
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Speaker 2: You've got the full experience of the blazing heat and

572
00:30:52,347 --> 00:30:54,067
Speaker 2: now a bit of a cloud and the lights on

573
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Speaker 2: there at Adelaide. What on earth were England doing yesterday?

574
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Speaker 2: What on earth was Harry Brook doing yesterday? Can you

575
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Speaker 2: unpack that for me?

576
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Speaker 9: Well, I've been asking myself for that for several years. Actually,

577
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Speaker 9: this is the thing with Harry Brook though, as it's

578
00:31:07,587 --> 00:31:11,627
Speaker 9: worked the whole time until until now, and the absolute

579
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Speaker 9: pressure cooker of trying to win the ashes from the

580
00:31:15,507 --> 00:31:18,987
Speaker 9: most unlikely spot. I look back to the Travis Hid

581
00:31:19,147 --> 00:31:21,787
Speaker 9: dropping Travis hit on ninety nine and I just think

582
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Speaker 9: if that cost them what seventy one runs. If they

583
00:31:24,747 --> 00:31:27,427
Speaker 9: were seventy one runs closer, shot like that will be

584
00:31:27,427 --> 00:31:31,427
Speaker 9: put away. They can easily defend that or actually leave that,

585
00:31:31,747 --> 00:31:34,867
Speaker 9: leave that ball. It's not it's not going to take

586
00:31:34,867 --> 00:31:37,667
Speaker 9: a wicket and he might still be out there being

587
00:31:37,747 --> 00:31:40,987
Speaker 9: Stokes would still get an absolute and absolute worldy of

588
00:31:40,987 --> 00:31:43,547
Speaker 9: a delivery from Nathan Lyons, so he'd be dismissed. But

589
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Speaker 9: those dismissals when you're trying to there's no more bigger

590
00:31:48,667 --> 00:31:51,667
Speaker 9: pressure than trying to win the ashes. And and if

591
00:31:51,707 --> 00:31:53,907
Speaker 9: you're doing that, whether you're back against the wall, but

592
00:31:53,947 --> 00:31:57,067
Speaker 9: a chance to break a record to stay alive in

593
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Speaker 9: the series, You've just got to really wonder where he

594
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Speaker 9: hits that and how much actually that he got to him.

595
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Speaker 2: I'm just looking at the the stats runs and balls

596
00:32:08,827 --> 00:32:11,227
Speaker 2: faced and I know these are more middle to lower

597
00:32:11,307 --> 00:32:14,787
Speaker 2: order players than Jamie Smith and Will Jack's Smith nine

598
00:32:14,867 --> 00:32:17,987
Speaker 2: off thirty nine, Jack's eleven or forty one. They're probably

599
00:32:17,947 --> 00:32:21,787
Speaker 2: the least bas ball numbers you'll ever see from England batters,

600
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Speaker 2: regardless of where they are. They can't possibly win or

601
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Speaker 2: save this Test, can they?

602
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Speaker 9: I might not leave Adelaide if they somehow win this Test,

603
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Speaker 9: so I might actually be sharing for them so in

604
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Speaker 9: the Test because love in the city, but I can't

605
00:32:37,387 --> 00:32:40,587
Speaker 9: see it happening. An interesting note on those basbeall numbers.

606
00:32:40,587 --> 00:32:44,267
Speaker 9: I'm pretty sure Zach Crawley, the poster boy for basball,

607
00:32:44,907 --> 00:32:46,947
Speaker 9: got eighty five years today. But he started his sinning

608
00:32:46,987 --> 00:32:49,627
Speaker 9: to one off I think about twenty eight balls. So

609
00:32:50,267 --> 00:32:54,507
Speaker 9: you don't need basballs and shouldn't be about heading from

610
00:32:54,507 --> 00:32:58,307
Speaker 9: ball one. You don't need to put the pressure on immediately.

611
00:32:58,387 --> 00:33:01,947
Speaker 9: You've actually it's a Test match. You've got time to

612
00:33:03,347 --> 00:33:06,307
Speaker 9: play yourself into the game. And he had a how

613
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Speaker 9: an innings unfortunately came to an end, and I can't

614
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Speaker 9: help but think his wicket as well, possibly was one

615
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Speaker 9: that probably wouldn't have fallen if he didn't have the

616
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Speaker 9: pressure of four hundred and thirty oddj jects. If it

617
00:33:17,187 --> 00:33:19,947
Speaker 9: was just three hundred and sixty then then it would

618
00:33:19,947 --> 00:33:20,587
Speaker 9: have been a lot better.

619
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Speaker 2: Indeed, I've got to get to waters at bay Oval.

620
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Speaker 2: You'll have noticed that I've gone orders you have. You've

621
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Speaker 2: led all this. I didn't want to throw you over

622
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Speaker 2: that bus again two days in a row. By having

623
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Speaker 2: what I must say, I must say as far as

624
00:33:33,867 --> 00:33:36,707
Speaker 2: a as a cricket report goes, it's right up there.

625
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Speaker 2: In fact, if this game is still going in a

626
00:33:38,347 --> 00:33:42,347
Speaker 2: couple of hours, I might get you back on two

627
00:33:42,387 --> 00:33:45,627
Speaker 2: fifteen for six. Currently England they need four thirty five.

628
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Speaker 2: Australia need four wickets. Anny McDonnell live at the Adelaide

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Speaker 2: Oval for US Normal Show producer now I Show corresponded

630
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Speaker 2: in South Australia. Good to chat to you mate, seventeen

631
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Speaker 2: to one. We'll take a break and come back and

632
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Speaker 2: get to Bay Oval where Andrew Ordison will update us

633
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Speaker 2: on the fourth day of the black Caps against the

634
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Speaker 2: West Indies.

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Speaker 1: Don't get caught up side weekends for us with Jason

636
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Speaker 1: Pain and GJ. Guvnerhops New Zealand's most trusted home builder.

637
00:34:12,467 --> 00:34:15,827
Speaker 2: News Dogs ENV fourteen away from one Bay Oval in

638
00:34:15,827 --> 00:34:18,027
Speaker 2: Mount Morganu and New Zealand twenty five without loss in

639
00:34:18,067 --> 00:34:20,587
Speaker 2: their second innings a lead of one hundred and eighty

640
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Speaker 2: after bowling the West Indies out this morning in their

641
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Speaker 2: first innings for four hundred and twenty. Andrew Ordison is

642
00:34:26,027 --> 00:34:29,627
Speaker 2: our man then Mount Morganui. Before we talk about what

643
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Speaker 2: might be set in terms of a total orders, tell

644
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Speaker 2: us about the new Zealand bowling effort today to snare

645
00:34:34,347 --> 00:34:37,147
Speaker 2: those last four West Indies wickets fairly.

646
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Speaker 10: Quickly grettings finey, Yes, I thought, well some of the

647
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Speaker 10: highlights probably Jacob Duffy, who's really taken on this spearhead

648
00:34:45,227 --> 00:34:47,707
Speaker 10: roll with the attack if you like, and ending up

649
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Speaker 10: with what four for eighty six and his thirty five overs,

650
00:34:50,707 --> 00:34:52,707
Speaker 10: but coming and giving a couple quick clickings so early,

651
00:34:53,707 --> 00:34:55,867
Speaker 10: and then I just fortell I was able to get

652
00:34:55,867 --> 00:34:59,027
Speaker 10: one Michael Ray another to wrap it up. But I

653
00:34:59,067 --> 00:35:02,267
Speaker 10: think Duffy's just ended that venam. I suppose it was

654
00:35:02,307 --> 00:35:04,627
Speaker 10: needed and in a bit of impetus to move that

655
00:35:04,747 --> 00:35:08,667
Speaker 10: innings on. From the Western News perspective, Shay Hope coming

656
00:35:08,667 --> 00:35:10,347
Speaker 10: to the wicket, tottering to the wicket if you like,

657
00:35:10,427 --> 00:35:13,467
Speaker 10: after this food poisoning Bout was only able to add

658
00:35:13,827 --> 00:35:16,587
Speaker 10: four before hooking and it was caught by Zach Folks

659
00:35:16,787 --> 00:35:19,627
Speaker 10: at a fine leg. But I think if you're looking

660
00:35:19,627 --> 00:35:22,307
Speaker 10: ahead in this Test match, promising signs from news end

661
00:35:22,347 --> 00:35:26,307
Speaker 10: have been three four, one hundred and thirteen from forty

662
00:35:26,347 --> 00:35:31,147
Speaker 10: one overs. Ags Ptel has left arm orthodox and the

663
00:35:31,307 --> 00:35:34,907
Speaker 10: pitch at the mount end or at least Hotel bowling

664
00:35:34,947 --> 00:35:37,587
Speaker 10: from the city end towards the mountains starting to break

665
00:35:37,667 --> 00:35:40,627
Speaker 10: up now and some variable bounc here a couple of

666
00:35:40,667 --> 00:35:43,427
Speaker 10: popping couple keeping low, and I think that bodes well

667
00:35:43,507 --> 00:35:45,947
Speaker 10: for New Zealand's chances bowling in that four thinnings.

668
00:35:46,667 --> 00:35:49,347
Speaker 2: It's a small example size, only five previous test matches

669
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Speaker 2: at bay Over the highest fourth innings total there is

670
00:35:51,547 --> 00:35:55,427
Speaker 2: two seventy one all out by Pakistan in late twenty

671
00:35:55,507 --> 00:35:59,147
Speaker 2: twenty the summer of twenty twenty one. What should New

672
00:35:59,227 --> 00:36:00,507
Speaker 2: Zealand look to set.

673
00:36:01,867 --> 00:36:02,067
Speaker 5: Well?

674
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Speaker 10: Look, I think it's almost the time factor Piney. To

675
00:36:04,347 --> 00:36:06,947
Speaker 10: be honest, I would think they will want least three

676
00:36:07,027 --> 00:36:09,507
Speaker 10: and a half sessions at the West Indies given it's

677
00:36:09,507 --> 00:36:12,187
Speaker 10: meant to be fine with the tomorrow. So I'm thinking

678
00:36:12,187 --> 00:36:15,347
Speaker 10: they'd probably have an hour at the West Indies tonight

679
00:36:15,827 --> 00:36:17,707
Speaker 10: and if they go to decent tempo they should be

680
00:36:17,747 --> 00:36:20,267
Speaker 10: able to they get another couple of hundred from here,

681
00:36:20,347 --> 00:36:22,747
Speaker 10: they'd have three eighty at least. They would actually be

682
00:36:22,747 --> 00:36:25,187
Speaker 10: well enough just from what you say there with fourth

683
00:36:25,187 --> 00:36:29,027
Speaker 10: in things chases and small sample sizes, but it might

684
00:36:29,227 --> 00:36:31,107
Speaker 10: be enough of a hint or a bit of sort

685
00:36:31,107 --> 00:36:33,467
Speaker 10: of a whiff or a cent for the West Indians

686
00:36:33,507 --> 00:36:36,027
Speaker 10: as well, given how well they have battered over the

687
00:36:36,027 --> 00:36:38,307
Speaker 10: course of this tour. So I would think it's more

688
00:36:38,347 --> 00:36:39,627
Speaker 10: the time based scenario.

689
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Speaker 2: Could the West Indies win this teast match, Yes.

690
00:36:44,347 --> 00:36:48,827
Speaker 10: I think they could, might depend on Shay Hopes well

691
00:36:48,867 --> 00:36:53,587
Speaker 10: being or his fitness or from having overcome this food poisoning,

692
00:36:53,867 --> 00:36:56,507
Speaker 10: or you think about what Justin Graves has achieved over

693
00:36:56,547 --> 00:36:58,827
Speaker 10: the course of the serials as well, with certainly some

694
00:36:58,947 --> 00:37:02,387
Speaker 10: pluck in that West Indies lineup. So that's why I

695
00:37:02,427 --> 00:37:04,427
Speaker 10: think the black Caps have want to be well assured

696
00:37:04,507 --> 00:37:06,907
Speaker 10: of what they have but on the board and if

697
00:37:06,947 --> 00:37:08,747
Speaker 10: you're able to get these runs I mean open it's

698
00:37:08,947 --> 00:37:11,347
Speaker 10: pretty solid so far as they saw as they were

699
00:37:11,387 --> 00:37:13,667
Speaker 10: able to produce them the first thing twenty five without Moss,

700
00:37:13,667 --> 00:37:17,667
Speaker 10: Conway and Lake and Conway, seventeen late and five, and

701
00:37:18,227 --> 00:37:22,307
Speaker 10: I think I'll just keep on in that manner in

702
00:37:22,347 --> 00:37:23,667
Speaker 10: the next three while hitting to lunch.

703
00:37:24,587 --> 00:37:27,027
Speaker 2: And I know you have to do some lunch filing

704
00:37:27,107 --> 00:37:29,387
Speaker 2: for our ZB network, but can you just talk a

705
00:37:29,387 --> 00:37:32,347
Speaker 2: little bit about js pttel eighty five wickets off. Sure

706
00:37:32,627 --> 00:37:35,547
Speaker 2: he finally got one on home sal yesterday, dded another couple.

707
00:37:37,067 --> 00:37:39,707
Speaker 2: He must have been pretty pleased, was he to break

708
00:37:39,747 --> 00:37:41,347
Speaker 2: that duck of home wickets?

709
00:37:41,787 --> 00:37:43,587
Speaker 10: Well, I think the smile said at all at the

710
00:37:43,587 --> 00:37:45,227
Speaker 10: press conference after they's played.

711
00:37:45,267 --> 00:37:46,587
Speaker 7: It's the sure for as Betel.

712
00:37:46,627 --> 00:37:49,027
Speaker 10: I mean, he's been waiting for that one for some

713
00:37:49,147 --> 00:37:51,107
Speaker 10: time and it was a real anomaly, wasn't it, just

714
00:37:51,107 --> 00:37:53,467
Speaker 10: given what he has achieved overseas and in buying New

715
00:37:53,547 --> 00:37:57,027
Speaker 10: Zealand to that Test victory in Mumbai, but also of

716
00:37:57,027 --> 00:37:59,547
Speaker 10: course with the fourteen wickets in the other game there

717
00:37:59,627 --> 00:38:03,667
Speaker 10: with the ten for one hundred and ninety. But he

718
00:38:03,827 --> 00:38:07,347
Speaker 10: was just I think that's been praying on his mind

719
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Speaker 10: for a long time and that was just great to

720
00:38:08,787 --> 00:38:11,987
Speaker 10: see m be able to actually achieve that goal. And

721
00:38:12,067 --> 00:38:14,907
Speaker 10: I think it's unshackled them but two and he's taken

722
00:38:14,987 --> 00:38:17,627
Speaker 10: three in the first things here and I expect a

723
00:38:17,627 --> 00:38:19,627
Speaker 10: lot more from in the second things as well. I

724
00:38:19,627 --> 00:38:22,387
Speaker 10: think he's got them and it's sort of playing into

725
00:38:22,387 --> 00:38:24,707
Speaker 10: his strengths if you like with it breaking.

726
00:38:24,467 --> 00:38:28,667
Speaker 2: Up orders off to other duties for you. Thanks mate

727
00:38:28,667 --> 00:38:30,067
Speaker 2: as always for joining us. We'll get you in a

728
00:38:30,107 --> 00:38:32,387
Speaker 2: couple of hours as well. As New Zealand continue to

729
00:38:32,387 --> 00:38:34,867
Speaker 2: build a lead in their second innings there twenty five

730
00:38:34,907 --> 00:38:37,147
Speaker 2: without loss, or just being played through the covers, which

731
00:38:37,187 --> 00:38:39,627
Speaker 2: might reach the band of twenty nine without loss. Lay

732
00:38:39,707 --> 00:38:42,387
Speaker 2: them on five Conway, who seems to have rediscovered some

733
00:38:42,427 --> 00:38:45,107
Speaker 2: of his best forms now unbeaten on twenty one New

734
00:38:45,187 --> 00:38:48,067
Speaker 2: Zealand twenty nine without loss. This is in their second things.

735
00:38:48,107 --> 00:38:51,507
Speaker 2: Of course, really impressive to get through the West Indies

736
00:38:52,067 --> 00:38:54,227
Speaker 2: for four hundred and twenty in double quick time this

737
00:38:54,267 --> 00:38:57,667
Speaker 2: morning to give themselves, as Andrews said, the most time

738
00:38:58,307 --> 00:39:01,147
Speaker 2: to set a total. So as I say, there haven't

739
00:39:01,187 --> 00:39:03,587
Speaker 2: been that many test matches at bay Oval. This is

740
00:39:03,627 --> 00:39:07,347
Speaker 2: only the sixth one and in that time clearly there

741
00:39:07,507 --> 00:39:10,307
Speaker 2: have only been I don't think in fact all four tests,

742
00:39:10,347 --> 00:39:13,147
Speaker 2: all sixcess having gone to a fourth inning. So like

743
00:39:13,187 --> 00:39:16,867
Speaker 2: I say, Pakistan may two seventy one there in the

744
00:39:16,907 --> 00:39:19,947
Speaker 2: fourth innings in the summer of twenty twenty twenty twenty one.

745
00:39:20,547 --> 00:39:22,987
Speaker 2: As Andrews said, if New Zealand can bat through to

746
00:39:23,547 --> 00:39:26,227
Speaker 2: let's say Tea or just after, they should have a

747
00:39:26,267 --> 00:39:27,947
Speaker 2: healthy lead. They lead by one to eighty four at

748
00:39:27,947 --> 00:39:30,267
Speaker 2: the moment another couple one hundred, be close to four hundred.

749
00:39:30,387 --> 00:39:33,227
Speaker 2: That should be more than enough, more than enough, and

750
00:39:33,347 --> 00:39:36,987
Speaker 2: give them what a little bit of the last session

751
00:39:37,027 --> 00:39:39,747
Speaker 2: today and all of tomorrow to try and bowl the

752
00:39:39,747 --> 00:39:42,507
Speaker 2: West and he's out eight away from one. News talks dB.

753
00:39:44,107 --> 00:39:46,707
Speaker 1: The Scoon from the track fields and the court on

754
00:39:46,867 --> 00:39:49,027
Speaker 1: your home of sort the weekend sport.

755
00:39:49,187 --> 00:39:50,267
Speaker 2: Where's Jason Vine?

756
00:39:50,347 --> 00:39:51,227
Speaker 5: The US talks eNB.

757
00:39:51,867 --> 00:39:53,907
Speaker 2: It's five to one. Just keeping eyes on what's happening

758
00:39:53,947 --> 00:39:56,427
Speaker 2: in Adelaide as well. This is probably the best England's

759
00:39:56,467 --> 00:39:59,827
Speaker 2: bad at all series. These two are Jamie Smith the

760
00:39:59,827 --> 00:40:03,907
Speaker 2: wicket keeper and Will Jacks, the spinning all rounder. What

761
00:40:03,987 --> 00:40:06,187
Speaker 2: have they added so far? Six one ninety four of

762
00:40:06,227 --> 00:40:09,427
Speaker 2: our I did thirty eight for the seventh wicket, two

763
00:40:09,547 --> 00:40:12,627
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty two for six currently. Wouldn't it be

764
00:40:12,707 --> 00:40:15,347
Speaker 2: great if England won this Test match? They could. They've

765
00:40:15,347 --> 00:40:17,147
Speaker 2: got enough time. I mean, if they stay out there

766
00:40:17,187 --> 00:40:19,707
Speaker 2: all day, they'll win the Test. They only need another

767
00:40:19,747 --> 00:40:22,187
Speaker 2: couple of hundred, must say, only another couple of hundred

768
00:40:22,267 --> 00:40:24,587
Speaker 2: and there's plenty of overs. They need two hundred and

769
00:40:24,667 --> 00:40:26,787
Speaker 2: three runs and there's eighty three overs. It's not even

770
00:40:26,787 --> 00:40:30,027
Speaker 2: three and over. It's just staying out there that's the issue.

771
00:40:30,627 --> 00:40:33,747
Speaker 2: But that would be enormous for the narrative of the ashes.

772
00:40:34,107 --> 00:40:37,227
Speaker 2: If somehow England could win this Test. We'll keep eyes

773
00:40:37,267 --> 00:40:39,867
Speaker 2: on it for you, and no doubt I've completely jinxed

774
00:40:39,867 --> 00:40:41,267
Speaker 2: it now. There'll be a couple of wickets over the

775
00:40:41,307 --> 00:40:44,467
Speaker 2: news break and I'll report back afterwards that England are

776
00:40:44,467 --> 00:40:48,267
Speaker 2: close to losing the Test thirty four. With that last

777
00:40:48,307 --> 00:40:52,187
Speaker 2: meantime New Zealand as they continue to build a lead

778
00:40:52,267 --> 00:40:56,027
Speaker 2: in their second innings up at Bay Oval in Mount Montnganuy,

779
00:40:56,107 --> 00:40:58,307
Speaker 2: with Devon Conway and Tom Latham of course together at

780
00:40:58,307 --> 00:41:01,427
Speaker 2: the crease, another boundary off the bat of Devon Conway

781
00:41:01,507 --> 00:41:05,387
Speaker 2: through the cover area. He's looking very very good, Devin Conway.

782
00:41:05,387 --> 00:41:08,187
Speaker 2: Great to see him return to form. After one o'clock

783
00:41:08,227 --> 00:41:12,227
Speaker 2: we're going to go Winter Olympics, a double dose of

784
00:41:12,267 --> 00:41:15,307
Speaker 2: Winter Olympics for you. Alice Robinson is our guest straight

785
00:41:15,307 --> 00:41:17,467
Speaker 2: after one o'clock. She is having a terrific time of

786
00:41:17,507 --> 00:41:20,787
Speaker 2: things at the moment. Giant slalom wins and also a

787
00:41:20,867 --> 00:41:25,307
Speaker 2: first ever Super g win for Alice Robinson last weekend

788
00:41:25,347 --> 00:41:28,867
Speaker 2: in Switzerland and also joined by the head of high

789
00:41:28,947 --> 00:41:32,787
Speaker 2: Performance at snow Sports New Zealand, Luke Hetzel. He's going

790
00:41:32,867 --> 00:41:35,667
Speaker 2: to talk to us about the hopes for New Zealand

791
00:41:35,667 --> 00:41:37,067
Speaker 2: at the upcoming Winter Games.

792
00:41:38,507 --> 00:41:42,747
Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues,

793
00:41:43,427 --> 00:41:48,387
Speaker 1: the big controversies, and the big conversations. It's all on

794
00:41:48,467 --> 00:41:52,227
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Pin on your home of Sport

795
00:41:52,707 --> 00:41:53,587
Speaker 1: News Talks. It be.

796
00:41:55,267 --> 00:41:57,627
Speaker 2: Hi there one O seven. This is Weekend Sport until three.

797
00:41:57,667 --> 00:42:01,147
Speaker 2: I'm Jason Pine. Isaiah Aberdingo is producing the show today,

798
00:42:02,467 --> 00:42:05,027
Speaker 2: snow Sports this Hour. Alice Robinson standing by the chat

799
00:42:05,067 --> 00:42:06,947
Speaker 2: to us. We'll also get a wide of you from

800
00:42:07,067 --> 00:42:11,347
Speaker 2: the head of high Performance at Snowsports New Zealand, Luke Hetzel.

801
00:42:11,787 --> 00:42:15,787
Speaker 2: Alice Robinson looking a real chance, a real chance for

802
00:42:16,187 --> 00:42:18,387
Speaker 2: a medal at the very least at the Winter Games,

803
00:42:18,387 --> 00:42:21,387
Speaker 2: and who knows what color might be. Zoe Sadowski Senators

804
00:42:21,427 --> 00:42:24,187
Speaker 2: going back again for a will her fourth games? Will

805
00:42:24,187 --> 00:42:27,827
Speaker 2: it be her fourth games? Maybe? Third?

806
00:42:27,867 --> 00:42:27,907
Speaker 11: No?

807
00:42:28,067 --> 00:42:31,187
Speaker 2: Third? Third? God, I don't think she would have been

808
00:42:31,227 --> 00:42:35,747
Speaker 2: around long enough for that. But she's won medals, a

809
00:42:35,827 --> 00:42:40,587
Speaker 2: bronze in twenty eighteen and a gold and a silver

810
00:42:40,907 --> 00:42:42,747
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two. Say you're the last. This is

811
00:42:42,787 --> 00:42:44,907
Speaker 2: a third game, Zoe, so she's got to be a

812
00:42:44,987 --> 00:42:46,507
Speaker 2: chance again. But what about the others, the ones we

813
00:42:46,547 --> 00:42:48,267
Speaker 2: haven't heard of the ones, or we might have heard

814
00:42:48,267 --> 00:42:51,267
Speaker 2: of but might be pushing for a podium place. Luke

815
00:42:51,307 --> 00:42:54,187
Speaker 2: Hetzel on that James mccony in studio this hour as well.

816
00:42:54,187 --> 00:42:55,987
Speaker 2: I hope your Christmas shopping's going well if that's what

817
00:42:56,027 --> 00:42:59,387
Speaker 2: you're involved in. Look, I hope we can help you

818
00:42:59,427 --> 00:43:01,267
Speaker 2: get from place to place. As I said yesterday, if

819
00:43:01,307 --> 00:43:02,267
Speaker 2: you just want to hang out in the car and

820
00:43:02,267 --> 00:43:05,747
Speaker 2: listen to us, great Whilst I mean, if you're buy yourself,

821
00:43:05,787 --> 00:43:08,387
Speaker 2: that probably doesn't help much with the Christmas shopping. But

822
00:43:08,387 --> 00:43:10,947
Speaker 2: if there's a team of you and you'd rather let

823
00:43:11,267 --> 00:43:12,667
Speaker 2: the rest of the team go and do it, look,

824
00:43:12,747 --> 00:43:16,387
Speaker 2: just stay with us, happy to keep you occupied while

825
00:43:16,387 --> 00:43:20,387
Speaker 2: the Christmas shopping is done by other people. Australia looking

826
00:43:20,427 --> 00:43:24,187
Speaker 2: for four wickets to retain the Ashes two forty one

827
00:43:24,267 --> 00:43:27,707
Speaker 2: for six England. They are now within two hundred. They

828
00:43:28,027 --> 00:43:31,147
Speaker 2: only need four hundred and thirty five. So what's that

829
00:43:31,187 --> 00:43:34,267
Speaker 2: another one hundred and ninety four runs to win, right,

830
00:43:34,267 --> 00:43:37,267
Speaker 2: one hundred ninety four they're six down. Jacks and Smith

831
00:43:37,307 --> 00:43:39,227
Speaker 2: are starting to mount a case. There's a bit of

832
00:43:39,267 --> 00:43:41,347
Speaker 2: light drizzle falling in Adelaide as well, just to make

833
00:43:41,387 --> 00:43:43,707
Speaker 2: things interesting. So we'll keep eyes on that for you.

834
00:43:43,827 --> 00:43:45,867
Speaker 2: And as you heard during our Sports News lunch at

835
00:43:45,867 --> 00:43:49,307
Speaker 2: Bay Oval on day four of the last or the

836
00:43:49,347 --> 00:43:51,587
Speaker 2: third and final Test between the black Caps in the

837
00:43:51,627 --> 00:43:54,787
Speaker 2: West Indies, New Zealand are thirty five without loss at lunch.

838
00:43:54,867 --> 00:43:57,627
Speaker 2: That is a lead currently of one hundred and ninety

839
00:43:57,667 --> 00:44:00,347
Speaker 2: with all ten second innings wickets and hand and five

840
00:44:00,627 --> 00:44:04,107
Speaker 2: fall sessions remaining in this Test match. Now, before we move,

841
00:44:05,027 --> 00:44:08,427
Speaker 2: if you're going to be around Auckland on New Year's Day,

842
00:44:09,107 --> 00:44:14,307
Speaker 2: we have for you six tickets to potentially win to

843
00:44:14,307 --> 00:44:16,707
Speaker 2: go along to watch Auckland FC take on the Newcastle

844
00:44:16,787 --> 00:44:19,707
Speaker 2: Jets at go Media Stadium. It's on New Year's Day,

845
00:44:19,787 --> 00:44:22,387
Speaker 2: January one. So if you are going to be there,

846
00:44:22,507 --> 00:44:24,107
Speaker 2: we can't get you to Auckland, but if you are

847
00:44:24,147 --> 00:44:25,587
Speaker 2: going to be in and around there, we'd love to

848
00:44:25,747 --> 00:44:27,747
Speaker 2: put you in the draw for these tickets. All you

849
00:44:27,827 --> 00:44:31,547
Speaker 2: have to do pretty simple text AFC and your name

850
00:44:32,147 --> 00:44:35,867
Speaker 2: to nine two nine two. That's it, AFC. Your name

851
00:44:36,427 --> 00:44:38,027
Speaker 2: to nine two nine two. You're in the draw. Wall

852
00:44:38,027 --> 00:44:40,307
Speaker 2: back to draw. I think tomorrow. I think I got

853
00:44:40,307 --> 00:44:42,667
Speaker 2: the word that tomorrow the draw will be made. You'll

854
00:44:42,667 --> 00:44:45,307
Speaker 2: know before Christmas whether you've got the six tickets or

855
00:44:45,347 --> 00:44:48,467
Speaker 2: not go Media Stadium Auckland f C against Newcastle Jets

856
00:44:48,547 --> 00:44:51,547
Speaker 2: AFC and your name to nine two niney two will

857
00:44:51,587 --> 00:44:55,827
Speaker 2: put you into the draw. With the Winter Olympics fast approaching,

858
00:44:55,907 --> 00:44:59,027
Speaker 2: what a time it has been recently for Kiwi skier

859
00:44:59,347 --> 00:45:03,947
Speaker 2: Alice Robinson FIS World Cup Giant slalom wins at Copper

860
00:45:03,987 --> 00:45:08,067
Speaker 2: Mountain in the United States and Plants in Canada, and

861
00:45:08,147 --> 00:45:11,107
Speaker 2: a second podium in Canada as well to lead the

862
00:45:11,187 --> 00:45:15,147
Speaker 2: Giant slalom standings after four of ten events, and then

863
00:45:15,227 --> 00:45:18,347
Speaker 2: last weekend she won her maiden World Cup title in

864
00:45:18,387 --> 00:45:22,627
Speaker 2: the faster Super G discipline at Saint Maritz in Switzerland,

865
00:45:22,907 --> 00:45:26,747
Speaker 2: the first ever Super G World Cup podium let alone

866
00:45:26,787 --> 00:45:28,467
Speaker 2: win by a New Zealander.

867
00:45:29,067 --> 00:45:30,267
Speaker 5: Robertson's nailed.

868
00:45:30,747 --> 00:45:35,347
Speaker 12: Robertson undiges margin and arlist Robinson. We'll take the lead

869
00:45:35,467 --> 00:45:36,787
Speaker 12: here today by.

870
00:45:36,747 --> 00:45:37,787
Speaker 5: A touch free mile.

871
00:45:38,227 --> 00:45:43,307
Speaker 2: It's you see it, It's again, Alice Robinson joins us

872
00:45:43,307 --> 00:45:45,667
Speaker 2: on Weekend Sport. Can we start with that super G

873
00:45:45,867 --> 00:45:50,187
Speaker 2: one your first ever? How significant was it to win

874
00:45:50,267 --> 00:45:53,307
Speaker 2: your first Super G World Cup title?

875
00:45:54,227 --> 00:45:54,427
Speaker 10: Hi?

876
00:45:54,947 --> 00:45:59,387
Speaker 13: Thanks for chatting. No, it was amazing, it was Yeah,

877
00:45:59,467 --> 00:46:00,107
Speaker 13: I mean, SUPERG.

878
00:46:00,227 --> 00:46:02,667
Speaker 8: It's something I've been kind of chipping away out in

879
00:46:02,707 --> 00:46:05,787
Speaker 8: the background for a few years now, and I feel

880
00:46:05,787 --> 00:46:08,867
Speaker 8: like I've never had a run that I was just like, Wow,

881
00:46:08,907 --> 00:46:11,827
Speaker 8: that was awesome with no mistakes. You know, it's really tough,

882
00:46:11,827 --> 00:46:15,667
Speaker 8: it's different, it's fast, it's only one run, and yeah,

883
00:46:15,667 --> 00:46:17,187
Speaker 8: to get a win in the first race, I was

884
00:46:17,227 --> 00:46:20,307
Speaker 8: not expecting it at all, and I just had such

885
00:46:20,347 --> 00:46:22,387
Speaker 8: a good feeling on the day. I didn't wasn't scared

886
00:46:22,427 --> 00:46:22,707
Speaker 8: at all.

887
00:46:22,707 --> 00:46:23,787
Speaker 13: I just really wanted to go.

888
00:46:23,707 --> 00:46:25,667
Speaker 2: For it so good. So, just for the benefit of

889
00:46:25,667 --> 00:46:30,147
Speaker 2: our listeners, super G has widely spaced gates for higher speeds,

890
00:46:30,187 --> 00:46:34,467
Speaker 2: while Giant Slalom has closer gates, more technical, tighter turns.

891
00:46:34,787 --> 00:46:36,347
Speaker 2: You've been doing Super G for a while, but this

892
00:46:36,507 --> 00:46:39,387
Speaker 2: was your first podium, let alone your first wins. So

893
00:46:39,987 --> 00:46:42,787
Speaker 2: he's your focus on the Giant Slalom being in some

894
00:46:42,827 --> 00:46:45,547
Speaker 2: ways at the expense of your Super G racing.

895
00:46:47,787 --> 00:46:50,547
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think obviously GS has always been has been

896
00:46:50,547 --> 00:46:52,747
Speaker 8: my priority, just because it's been my main event, and

897
00:46:52,787 --> 00:46:53,507
Speaker 8: I was never going.

898
00:46:53,427 --> 00:46:55,667
Speaker 13: To sacrifice GS results for Super G.

899
00:46:56,987 --> 00:46:59,867
Speaker 8: But I have been shipping away and it's different because

900
00:46:59,867 --> 00:47:01,467
Speaker 8: you know you're going up to like one hundred and

901
00:47:01,507 --> 00:47:06,107
Speaker 8: twenty k's you've got big jumps, so it's and every

902
00:47:06,667 --> 00:47:09,347
Speaker 8: is so different, it's hard.

903
00:47:09,107 --> 00:47:12,307
Speaker 13: To be consistent. In Sufuji, I would say, And.

904
00:47:12,307 --> 00:47:14,787
Speaker 8: I think everything just lined up on Sunday for It's

905
00:47:14,827 --> 00:47:15,907
Speaker 8: be a really great day for me.

906
00:47:17,907 --> 00:47:19,827
Speaker 13: And you know, I've put in a few good training

907
00:47:19,907 --> 00:47:20,387
Speaker 13: days on.

908
00:47:20,387 --> 00:47:22,707
Speaker 8: It and I've felt so solid just from my gs

909
00:47:22,747 --> 00:47:25,307
Speaker 8: as well. And I did the downhill as a bit

910
00:47:25,347 --> 00:47:28,107
Speaker 8: of training for Sufigi too, and I just really felt

911
00:47:28,107 --> 00:47:29,027
Speaker 8: like I was in a good spot.

912
00:47:29,107 --> 00:47:30,147
Speaker 13: Yeah, it was like the day for me.

913
00:47:30,267 --> 00:47:32,507
Speaker 2: I think, well, it certainly was. You ended up on

914
00:47:32,587 --> 00:47:35,387
Speaker 2: top of the podium and in your giant slalom wins.

915
00:47:35,467 --> 00:47:38,747
Speaker 2: What a start to the World Cup season it's been

916
00:47:38,747 --> 00:47:42,107
Speaker 2: for you, Alis. Why are things going so well?

917
00:47:42,347 --> 00:47:44,347
Speaker 13: Honestly? Yeah, I mean this is a lot of people

918
00:47:44,347 --> 00:47:46,347
Speaker 13: have asked me this and I don't really have an answer.

919
00:47:46,747 --> 00:47:47,947
Speaker 13: I think it's just kind of been.

920
00:47:48,867 --> 00:47:51,427
Speaker 8: We haven't really done anything that special this offseason. I

921
00:47:51,427 --> 00:47:53,707
Speaker 8: think everyone's just been working really hard, my whole team

922
00:47:54,307 --> 00:47:58,307
Speaker 8: on trying to just you know, everything no stone goes unturned.

923
00:47:58,347 --> 00:47:59,827
Speaker 13: I think we had a great you know, I worked

924
00:47:59,827 --> 00:48:02,227
Speaker 13: really hard in the gym this off season.

925
00:48:01,947 --> 00:48:04,187
Speaker 8: And then we also had an amazing prep period in

926
00:48:04,227 --> 00:48:07,347
Speaker 8: New Zealand summer training. I think we had better conditions

927
00:48:08,027 --> 00:48:11,107
Speaker 8: than we've had in the previous years, and I think everyone's.

928
00:48:10,667 --> 00:48:13,147
Speaker 13: Just been putting in so much effort to make.

929
00:48:12,987 --> 00:48:16,027
Speaker 8: Everything as the best it can be. And I think

930
00:48:16,067 --> 00:48:18,467
Speaker 8: this is just kind of a show of you know,

931
00:48:18,547 --> 00:48:20,187
Speaker 8: all of us putting in all the work and just

932
00:48:20,547 --> 00:48:21,867
Speaker 8: you know, accumulation two.

933
00:48:21,747 --> 00:48:24,347
Speaker 13: Of consistent results over the last couple of years.

934
00:48:24,147 --> 00:48:26,627
Speaker 8: And then mixing in you know, better training, more training,

935
00:48:27,707 --> 00:48:29,587
Speaker 8: and everything's just starting to work out.

936
00:48:29,827 --> 00:48:32,547
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, your timing is absolutely impeccable. With the Winter

937
00:48:32,587 --> 00:48:34,947
Speaker 2: Olympics fast approaching in the first couple of months of

938
00:48:34,947 --> 00:48:38,227
Speaker 2: next year, there will be your third Winter Olympics. Will

939
00:48:38,227 --> 00:48:40,667
Speaker 2: it help that you're a bit more familiar with the

940
00:48:40,667 --> 00:48:44,747
Speaker 2: conditions in Melanaquotina compared to the last two games in

941
00:48:44,907 --> 00:48:46,227
Speaker 2: Korea and in China.

942
00:48:48,107 --> 00:48:50,667
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think I'm so. I have such a different

943
00:48:50,787 --> 00:48:51,787
Speaker 13: feeling going.

944
00:48:51,547 --> 00:48:54,027
Speaker 8: Into these Olympics than I did the previous too. I

945
00:48:54,067 --> 00:48:57,107
Speaker 8: think also just being a different stage of my career.

946
00:48:57,147 --> 00:48:58,787
Speaker 8: I think the first ones I found out I was

947
00:48:58,827 --> 00:49:01,787
Speaker 8: going when I was sixteen, like two weeks before the

948
00:49:01,867 --> 00:49:03,947
Speaker 8: second Olympics was a bit of a disaster.

949
00:49:03,667 --> 00:49:06,787
Speaker 13: Year for me during COVID. You know, I got COVID

950
00:49:06,867 --> 00:49:08,907
Speaker 13: just before the Olympics and just wasn't really in a

951
00:49:08,907 --> 00:49:12,147
Speaker 13: good I was not in shape heading to the Olympics.

952
00:49:12,147 --> 00:49:13,427
Speaker 13: And it was also in career.

953
00:49:13,227 --> 00:49:16,467
Speaker 8: In China, which were two completely.

954
00:49:16,107 --> 00:49:17,667
Speaker 13: Foreign places for ski races.

955
00:49:17,707 --> 00:49:19,987
Speaker 8: I never raced there in either of them before getting there,

956
00:49:20,387 --> 00:49:23,067
Speaker 8: And I think Cortina it feels so almost like a

957
00:49:23,147 --> 00:49:24,427
Speaker 8: second The dollar mights me.

958
00:49:24,467 --> 00:49:26,387
Speaker 13: I've spent so much time now they almost be like

959
00:49:26,427 --> 00:49:27,267
Speaker 13: a second home.

960
00:49:28,347 --> 00:49:30,507
Speaker 8: It's a beautiful part of the world. It's just a

961
00:49:30,587 --> 00:49:32,427
Speaker 8: place I'm really familiar with. You know, we raced there

962
00:49:32,427 --> 00:49:35,747
Speaker 8: every year. So I'm definitely heading to Cortina with slightly

963
00:49:35,787 --> 00:49:38,147
Speaker 8: different the last two Olympics.

964
00:49:38,467 --> 00:49:41,227
Speaker 2: And will you compete in both Giant slalom and Super

965
00:49:41,267 --> 00:49:42,387
Speaker 2: g at the Winter Games.

966
00:49:43,227 --> 00:49:44,427
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, that's a plan.

967
00:49:44,667 --> 00:49:44,907
Speaker 5: Good.

968
00:49:44,947 --> 00:49:47,227
Speaker 2: Good to hear. You have a connection, of course with

969
00:49:47,587 --> 00:49:50,827
Speaker 2: an Aaliza Coberger, who became the first athlete from the

970
00:49:50,827 --> 00:49:53,587
Speaker 2: Southern Hemisphere to win a meddle at the Winter Games

971
00:49:53,587 --> 00:49:55,787
Speaker 2: when she won silver for New Zealand and the slalom

972
00:49:56,187 --> 00:49:58,787
Speaker 2: in France in nineteen ninety two. She is the sister

973
00:49:59,267 --> 00:50:02,667
Speaker 2: of your coach, so surely you emulate her or even

974
00:50:02,707 --> 00:50:04,587
Speaker 2: go one better thirty four years later.

975
00:50:06,387 --> 00:50:07,347
Speaker 13: I mean I would love to.

976
00:50:07,547 --> 00:50:10,707
Speaker 8: I think, yeah, honestly, that connection is so special, and

977
00:50:12,107 --> 00:50:14,267
Speaker 8: I mean, for sure, going to Olympics, my goal is

978
00:50:14,307 --> 00:50:17,067
Speaker 8: to is to where I think everyone's go going to

979
00:50:17,107 --> 00:50:18,987
Speaker 8: Olympics is that? And I think, you know, there's still

980
00:50:18,987 --> 00:50:21,147
Speaker 8: a lot of I mean, I mean like there's still

981
00:50:21,187 --> 00:50:22,067
Speaker 8: like two months.

982
00:50:21,787 --> 00:50:23,107
Speaker 13: To wear there, so I've got to kind of.

983
00:50:23,427 --> 00:50:25,307
Speaker 8: Keep my head down and just stay focused on the

984
00:50:25,387 --> 00:50:27,347
Speaker 8: races coming up in the training and just try and

985
00:50:27,387 --> 00:50:30,147
Speaker 8: go to Cortina with a clear, confident head.

986
00:50:30,547 --> 00:50:32,147
Speaker 2: If we go back to the start of your career,

987
00:50:32,227 --> 00:50:34,067
Speaker 2: it would be fair to say you burst onto the scene.

988
00:50:34,067 --> 00:50:36,867
Speaker 2: You won your first World Cup giant slalom event in

989
00:50:36,947 --> 00:50:40,347
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. You were only seventeen years of age. Then

990
00:50:40,387 --> 00:50:44,907
Speaker 2: alis did that happen earlier than you had imagined it might?

991
00:50:45,907 --> 00:50:47,467
Speaker 13: Yeah, for sure, I think I was.

992
00:50:47,987 --> 00:50:49,507
Speaker 8: I think I came onto the World Cup just with

993
00:50:49,627 --> 00:50:53,347
Speaker 8: so much talent as a youngster, and I won so soon.

994
00:50:53,667 --> 00:50:54,947
Speaker 13: It was like it.

995
00:50:54,867 --> 00:50:57,267
Speaker 8: Almost made it seem so easy for me because it

996
00:50:57,307 --> 00:51:00,667
Speaker 8: happened so quickly. But yeah, it was not expected at all.

997
00:51:00,707 --> 00:51:04,187
Speaker 8: I think that kind of propelled me into, you know,

998
00:51:04,227 --> 00:51:06,227
Speaker 8: professional sports so quickly, and there.

999
00:51:06,427 --> 00:51:07,987
Speaker 13: Are any things that you have to learn along the

1000
00:51:08,027 --> 00:51:08,747
Speaker 13: way that differently.

1001
00:51:08,827 --> 00:51:11,867
Speaker 8: It's not a linear pass. It hasn't been a linear

1002
00:51:11,867 --> 00:51:12,827
Speaker 8: pass since then at all.

1003
00:51:12,987 --> 00:51:14,827
Speaker 2: Well, it tortinly was to start with, though, wasn't it.

1004
00:51:14,947 --> 00:51:18,667
Speaker 2: You had five giant slalom podiums in your first two years,

1005
00:51:18,707 --> 00:51:23,107
Speaker 2: including three wins, but then no podiums for two and

1006
00:51:23,107 --> 00:51:26,667
Speaker 2: a half years before a second placing at Killington in

1007
00:51:26,707 --> 00:51:29,787
Speaker 2: the United States in November of twenty twenty three. So

1008
00:51:29,867 --> 00:51:33,587
Speaker 2: our challenging was that podiumless period for you?

1009
00:51:35,187 --> 00:51:36,427
Speaker 13: Yeah, it was really tough.

1010
00:51:37,107 --> 00:51:40,627
Speaker 8: It was definitely I hit like my rock bottom I

1011
00:51:40,627 --> 00:51:43,507
Speaker 8: would say, maybe not rock bottom, but I fell out

1012
00:51:43,507 --> 00:51:45,507
Speaker 8: of the top thirty in GS after the Olympics.

1013
00:51:45,827 --> 00:51:47,347
Speaker 13: I think that whole year was challenged.

1014
00:51:47,467 --> 00:51:51,467
Speaker 8: Was that whole year was quite challenging for me, and

1015
00:51:51,547 --> 00:51:53,667
Speaker 8: I think I then switched equipment and then I was

1016
00:51:53,747 --> 00:51:55,347
Speaker 8: kind of just trying to build my way back up

1017
00:51:55,387 --> 00:51:57,307
Speaker 8: to the following year. And then I think after that

1018
00:51:57,387 --> 00:52:00,987
Speaker 8: following year, I got Nils and Tim the KEYWI coaches back,

1019
00:52:01,107 --> 00:52:03,307
Speaker 8: and that's when I kind of started hitting the podium

1020
00:52:03,307 --> 00:52:06,347
Speaker 8: again consistently, and then since then it's just kind of

1021
00:52:06,387 --> 00:52:08,907
Speaker 8: been building together as a team and you know, learning

1022
00:52:08,907 --> 00:52:11,227
Speaker 8: more and more about my skiing and growing up too

1023
00:52:11,307 --> 00:52:14,307
Speaker 8: and maturing and figuring out my processes and what.

1024
00:52:14,227 --> 00:52:17,827
Speaker 13: Makes me ski fast. So for sure, it's been.

1025
00:52:19,307 --> 00:52:21,547
Speaker 8: A crazy start to my career, a little dip, and

1026
00:52:21,587 --> 00:52:23,107
Speaker 8: now I feel like I'm kind of hitting.

1027
00:52:22,827 --> 00:52:23,587
Speaker 13: My strides again.

1028
00:52:23,747 --> 00:52:28,667
Speaker 2: Meil, it was a really successful period after that podium

1029
00:52:29,187 --> 00:52:31,947
Speaker 2: in the US, several more podiums across twenty twenty four

1030
00:52:31,987 --> 00:52:35,187
Speaker 2: into January of this year where you won at kron

1031
00:52:35,227 --> 00:52:38,467
Speaker 2: Plutz in Italy. I remember you've been very emotional after that,

1032
00:52:38,507 --> 00:52:41,907
Speaker 2: your first race win in nearly four years. How significant

1033
00:52:41,987 --> 00:52:43,667
Speaker 2: and emotional a moment was that for you?

1034
00:52:45,267 --> 00:52:46,467
Speaker 13: Yeah, it was very emotional.

1035
00:52:46,507 --> 00:52:49,507
Speaker 8: I think, you know, i'd been hadn't one in nearly

1036
00:52:49,547 --> 00:52:53,387
Speaker 8: four years, and it just kind of reminded me of

1037
00:52:53,707 --> 00:52:56,427
Speaker 8: the hard times during a you know, the at that

1038
00:52:56,667 --> 00:52:57,627
Speaker 8: like Olympic.

1039
00:52:57,307 --> 00:53:00,307
Speaker 13: Year, when I just the thought of ever winning.

1040
00:53:00,027 --> 00:53:02,667
Speaker 8: A race just felt so impossible with how low I

1041
00:53:02,867 --> 00:53:08,067
Speaker 8: was and how hard everything seemed. To kind of see

1042
00:53:08,107 --> 00:53:12,307
Speaker 8: myself watch myself back, kind of rebuilding my foundation and

1043
00:53:12,347 --> 00:53:14,667
Speaker 8: my love for skiing and my drive to competition again

1044
00:53:14,707 --> 00:53:17,467
Speaker 8: and to finally get back to where I wanted to be.

1045
00:53:17,667 --> 00:53:20,587
Speaker 2: Just was so special during the most challenging times. Did

1046
00:53:20,587 --> 00:53:24,027
Speaker 2: there come a point where you just didn't enjoy ski

1047
00:53:24,107 --> 00:53:24,827
Speaker 2: racing anymore?

1048
00:53:25,867 --> 00:53:26,587
Speaker 13: Yeah, for sure.

1049
00:53:26,627 --> 00:53:29,027
Speaker 8: I think when people are struggling in sport, like there

1050
00:53:29,067 --> 00:53:31,267
Speaker 8: was days where I really didn't want to go. I

1051
00:53:31,267 --> 00:53:33,587
Speaker 8: remember after Olympics, I really didn't want to keep skiing

1052
00:53:33,627 --> 00:53:35,067
Speaker 8: for the rest of the season because I was just

1053
00:53:35,147 --> 00:53:36,827
Speaker 8: so kind of destroyed.

1054
00:53:36,827 --> 00:53:37,507
Speaker 13: But you just had to.

1055
00:53:37,627 --> 00:53:39,427
Speaker 8: And I was strong enough that I just kept picking

1056
00:53:39,427 --> 00:53:42,787
Speaker 8: myself up and giving it a crack even if it

1057
00:53:42,827 --> 00:53:43,467
Speaker 8: didn't work out.

1058
00:53:43,507 --> 00:53:44,987
Speaker 13: I kept I didn't miss any.

1059
00:53:44,867 --> 00:53:46,467
Speaker 8: Races, I didn't skip any trainings.

1060
00:53:47,667 --> 00:53:49,187
Speaker 13: I just kept showing up even if.

1061
00:53:49,107 --> 00:53:51,747
Speaker 8: The results weren't there, which I'm really proud of myself

1062
00:53:51,787 --> 00:53:55,947
Speaker 8: looking back on it now, And yeah, I mean that's

1063
00:53:55,947 --> 00:53:58,707
Speaker 8: when I kind of now I love racing and competing

1064
00:53:58,707 --> 00:54:01,267
Speaker 8: and everything so much it's hard to look back on.

1065
00:54:01,467 --> 00:54:03,707
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you're well and truly out the other side now.

1066
00:54:04,067 --> 00:54:08,027
Speaker 2: World Championships in Februry and Austra silver medal the final

1067
00:54:08,067 --> 00:54:10,627
Speaker 2: of the World Cup Giant Slalom in Sun Valley, your

1068
00:54:10,707 --> 00:54:14,427
Speaker 2: second in the overall season standings. You've started this season.

1069
00:54:14,427 --> 00:54:17,587
Speaker 2: As we've mentioned brilliantly, this all feels like it's coming

1070
00:54:17,627 --> 00:54:19,627
Speaker 2: together at the right time. Do you feel as though

1071
00:54:20,107 --> 00:54:23,027
Speaker 2: the next few months could be really significant for you?

1072
00:54:25,067 --> 00:54:27,667
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, for sure, there's so many incredible opportunities

1073
00:54:27,707 --> 00:54:33,147
Speaker 8: coming up, and so many chances to do some really

1074
00:54:33,187 --> 00:54:36,467
Speaker 8: special things. But I guess to me, I'm just kind

1075
00:54:36,467 --> 00:54:38,587
Speaker 8: of trying to focus on each week as it comes

1076
00:54:38,587 --> 00:54:40,707
Speaker 8: and not looking too far ahead and not thinking about

1077
00:54:40,707 --> 00:54:41,907
Speaker 8: what's going to be happening at the end of the

1078
00:54:41,907 --> 00:54:45,587
Speaker 8: season with globes, or looking too far into February. I'm

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00:54:45,627 --> 00:54:47,267
Speaker 8: just trying to take each week as it comes and

1080
00:54:47,347 --> 00:54:49,867
Speaker 8: just keep producing really good skiing, and then I'm sure

1081
00:54:49,867 --> 00:54:51,387
Speaker 8: the rest will take care of itself.

1082
00:54:51,467 --> 00:54:53,627
Speaker 2: Yeah. The globe you mentioned there, the Crystal Globe, of course,

1083
00:54:53,627 --> 00:54:57,827
Speaker 2: for a season long giant slalom championship. I know this

1084
00:54:57,867 --> 00:55:00,627
Speaker 2: is probably an impossible question to answer, but would you

1085
00:55:00,747 --> 00:55:04,867
Speaker 2: rather win that or a Winter Olympics gold medal, which

1086
00:55:04,867 --> 00:55:05,587
Speaker 2: would mean more?

1087
00:55:07,867 --> 00:55:10,667
Speaker 8: I know ever I've been asked this, and honestly, it's

1088
00:55:10,827 --> 00:55:13,947
Speaker 8: it's really tough because they both mean such different things.

1089
00:55:16,267 --> 00:55:19,947
Speaker 8: I think, you know the Olympics is you have that

1090
00:55:20,027 --> 00:55:21,707
Speaker 8: kind of recognition from outside the.

1091
00:55:21,707 --> 00:55:24,707
Speaker 13: Sport because it's an Olympics gold medal.

1092
00:55:25,227 --> 00:55:27,827
Speaker 8: But I think true sports fans know that it's more

1093
00:55:27,867 --> 00:55:29,947
Speaker 8: of a feat and more impressive to win a crystal

1094
00:55:29,987 --> 00:55:33,827
Speaker 8: globe because it's you're the best over the whole seat,

1095
00:55:33,907 --> 00:55:35,627
Speaker 8: over ten races, not just one day.

1096
00:55:37,107 --> 00:55:38,547
Speaker 13: So I think if you're a die hard.

1097
00:55:38,307 --> 00:55:40,467
Speaker 8: Ski racing fan, you'd be more impressed.

1098
00:55:40,027 --> 00:55:41,867
Speaker 13: By a crystal globe. But obviously just.

1099
00:55:41,787 --> 00:55:44,307
Speaker 8: The kind of blingbling of the Olympics gold.

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00:55:44,107 --> 00:55:46,307
Speaker 13: Medal is really special too.

1101
00:55:47,147 --> 00:55:49,187
Speaker 8: So obviously it's really hard to decide, but I think

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00:55:49,227 --> 00:55:51,667
Speaker 8: for me, with looking at my own skiing, i'd probably

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00:55:51,787 --> 00:55:54,187
Speaker 8: rather have a crystal globe because I know that it's

1104
00:55:54,187 --> 00:55:54,907
Speaker 8: harder to get.

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00:55:55,067 --> 00:55:57,067
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's just a hypothetical question. Of course, you

1106
00:55:57,067 --> 00:55:59,147
Speaker 2: don't have to decide, you just go and when both don't.

1107
00:55:58,907 --> 00:56:00,987
Speaker 13: You that'd be nice.

1108
00:56:01,267 --> 00:56:05,307
Speaker 2: Yeah, who knows what might lie here? Ellis, It's been

1109
00:56:05,707 --> 00:56:08,667
Speaker 2: such a pleasure adding to you. Congratulations on your stunning

1110
00:56:08,747 --> 00:56:11,987
Speaker 2: recent form and ahead of a very exciting time, we

1111
00:56:12,107 --> 00:56:13,827
Speaker 2: just can't wait to see how you go across the

1112
00:56:13,827 --> 00:56:16,427
Speaker 2: rest of this northern winter and of course at the

1113
00:56:16,467 --> 00:56:19,067
Speaker 2: Winter Olympics as well. Thanks so much for chatting to us.

1114
00:56:18,947 --> 00:56:21,627
Speaker 13: Today, No worries, Thank you, Bye.

1115
00:56:21,347 --> 00:56:24,467
Speaker 2: Bye bye, Alice. Thanks so much. Alice Robinson there, what

1116
00:56:24,507 --> 00:56:28,307
Speaker 2: a delight she is and what a triumph of resilience

1117
00:56:29,107 --> 00:56:32,067
Speaker 2: and not giving up. That was a long period without

1118
00:56:32,187 --> 00:56:36,747
Speaker 2: podiums for her, and without World Cup wins and the

1119
00:56:36,787 --> 00:56:40,467
Speaker 2: Giant Slam. What was it four years between winds, two

1120
00:56:40,547 --> 00:56:42,427
Speaker 2: and a half years without even getting on the podium,

1121
00:56:42,707 --> 00:56:45,587
Speaker 2: dropping out of the world's top thirty after such an

1122
00:56:45,627 --> 00:56:49,307
Speaker 2: amazing start. There's such a young skier to then come

1123
00:56:49,387 --> 00:56:52,947
Speaker 2: up against that sort of versity, to fight through it.

1124
00:56:53,147 --> 00:56:54,707
Speaker 2: As you heard her say, there were times you didn't

1125
00:56:54,707 --> 00:56:56,547
Speaker 2: want to go, just didn't want to train today, I

1126
00:56:56,547 --> 00:56:59,827
Speaker 2: didn't want to do it anymore, but battled on and

1127
00:56:59,947 --> 00:57:04,507
Speaker 2: is now reaping the rewards of that. Just just love

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00:57:04,587 --> 00:57:08,067
Speaker 2: stories like that, love story like that. Alice Robinson has

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00:57:08,107 --> 00:57:11,147
Speaker 2: to be a huge, huge chance, doesn't she at the

1130
00:57:11,267 --> 00:57:14,387
Speaker 2: Winter Olympics. Luke Hetzel is the head of pipe performance

1131
00:57:14,707 --> 00:57:16,747
Speaker 2: at snow Sports New Zealand, going to have a chat

1132
00:57:16,787 --> 00:57:20,387
Speaker 2: to him very shortly about not only Alice Robinson but

1133
00:57:20,427 --> 00:57:23,587
Speaker 2: the other kiwis who might feature at the Winter Games

1134
00:57:23,587 --> 00:57:27,587
Speaker 2: in terms of podium chances. It's just raining ever so

1135
00:57:27,627 --> 00:57:30,827
Speaker 2: slightly at the Adelaide Oval, so they're off for a bit.

1136
00:57:30,907 --> 00:57:33,267
Speaker 2: It's not I've just had a look at the TV pictures.

1137
00:57:32,907 --> 00:57:35,627
Speaker 2: It was just a shower that passed through. They got

1138
00:57:35,627 --> 00:57:37,187
Speaker 2: the covers on, but I can see a lot of

1139
00:57:37,187 --> 00:57:39,387
Speaker 2: blue sky and sunshine, so they'll be back out there soon.

1140
00:57:39,787 --> 00:57:41,827
Speaker 2: This I don't know. I don't. I seriously don't want

1141
00:57:41,867 --> 00:57:44,187
Speaker 2: to jinx it. I probably did be four, but England

1142
00:57:44,227 --> 00:57:47,347
Speaker 2: need one hundred and ninety four more runs. There are

1143
00:57:47,347 --> 00:57:51,307
Speaker 2: still eighty overs to go, so they don't even need

1144
00:57:51,347 --> 00:57:53,347
Speaker 2: to go at three and over. They just need to

1145
00:57:53,347 --> 00:57:56,667
Speaker 2: go two and a bit over and they will win

1146
00:57:56,747 --> 00:58:00,387
Speaker 2: this test match. They are six down, but the two

1147
00:58:00,507 --> 00:58:04,227
Speaker 2: at the crease are showing probably more fight and more

1148
00:58:05,747 --> 00:58:10,507
Speaker 2: resilient and more backbone than a lot of England batters have,

1149
00:58:10,627 --> 00:58:13,027
Speaker 2: not only in this test, but in the series. Jamie

1150
00:58:13,027 --> 00:58:16,227
Speaker 2: Smith is there on twenty five, not out. Will Jacks

1151
00:58:16,427 --> 00:58:19,227
Speaker 2: is unbeaten on twenty one. They came together at one

1152
00:58:19,347 --> 00:58:21,827
Speaker 2: ninety four for six, so they're closing in on a

1153
00:58:21,827 --> 00:58:24,947
Speaker 2: fifty partnership and these two combat. Jamie Smith has a

1154
00:58:24,987 --> 00:58:27,587
Speaker 2: test high score of one hundred and eighty four not

1155
00:58:27,707 --> 00:58:32,787
Speaker 2: out couple of Test hundreds and six further Test fifties.

1156
00:58:32,827 --> 00:58:36,747
Speaker 2: He's got close to five thousand first class runs, so

1157
00:58:36,867 --> 00:58:41,827
Speaker 2: Jamie Smith's credentials are certainly pretty impressive and will jacks.

1158
00:58:41,867 --> 00:58:44,227
Speaker 2: While he hasn't played a lot of Test cricket, this

1159
00:58:44,307 --> 00:58:46,427
Speaker 2: is only I think his third Test match in first

1160
00:58:46,427 --> 00:58:52,187
Speaker 2: class cricket, He's got four first class hundreds and an

1161
00:58:52,187 --> 00:58:55,227
Speaker 2: average of close to thirty five, so he is well

1162
00:58:55,267 --> 00:59:00,507
Speaker 2: and truly and all rounder. So who knows? He who

1163
00:59:00,587 --> 00:59:04,187
Speaker 2: knows two forty one for six are further one hundred

1164
00:59:04,227 --> 00:59:07,027
Speaker 2: and ninety four needed for victory. Let's hope they get

1165
00:59:07,027 --> 00:59:09,227
Speaker 2: back out there soon and yeah, this could be a

1166
00:59:09,267 --> 00:59:12,227
Speaker 2: fairly intriguing watch. Having said that Nathan Lyon might get

1167
00:59:12,227 --> 00:59:14,107
Speaker 2: them both out soon and all of a sudden it's

1168
00:59:14,347 --> 00:59:17,107
Speaker 2: a very different story. We'll let you know what happens.

1169
00:59:17,107 --> 00:59:19,227
Speaker 2: One twenty four News Talks here, be back with more

1170
00:59:20,067 --> 00:59:23,227
Speaker 2: from our snow Sports head of High Performance.

1171
00:59:23,267 --> 00:59:26,947
Speaker 1: After this the Voice of Sport on your home of

1172
00:59:27,027 --> 00:59:32,187
Speaker 1: Sport Weekend Sport with Jason Kyne gj Gunnos, New Zealand's

1173
00:59:32,187 --> 00:59:34,707
Speaker 1: most trusted oh Builder News TALKSB.

1174
00:59:34,947 --> 00:59:38,907
Speaker 2: News Talks B one twenty seven. Luke Hetzel is General

1175
00:59:38,907 --> 00:59:42,267
Speaker 2: manager of high Performance at snow Sports New Zealand. Look,

1176
00:59:42,307 --> 00:59:44,227
Speaker 2: thanks for joining us on Weekend Sport. We've just heard

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00:59:44,227 --> 00:59:47,627
Speaker 2: from Alice Robinson. Clearly she's doing amazing things as the

1178
00:59:47,667 --> 00:59:50,427
Speaker 2: Winter Olympics draw closer. How excited are you about her

1179
00:59:50,907 --> 00:59:51,987
Speaker 2: recent form?

1180
00:59:52,347 --> 00:59:55,707
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're well, I've still digesting, really, so Alice has

1181
00:59:55,747 --> 01:00:00,307
Speaker 6: had quite a run with giant slalom and on an

1182
01:00:00,347 --> 01:00:03,107
Speaker 6: absolute tear and tracking really well for the Olympics, and

1183
01:00:03,147 --> 01:00:05,787
Speaker 6: then all of a sudden first place in Super G

1184
01:00:05,907 --> 01:00:10,227
Speaker 6: and kind of proving she's a double double metal threat

1185
01:00:10,347 --> 01:00:15,387
Speaker 6: and first podium and that discipline and yeah, yeah, digesting

1186
01:00:15,427 --> 01:00:16,787
Speaker 6: really it's awesome.

1187
01:00:16,747 --> 01:00:20,107
Speaker 2: It really is. You've kind of alluded to my next question.

1188
01:00:20,267 --> 01:00:24,067
Speaker 2: She's obviously a huge chance in the giant slalom, which

1189
01:00:24,067 --> 01:00:26,787
Speaker 2: I guess you'd call her specialist event, but might she

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01:00:26,947 --> 01:00:29,867
Speaker 2: also contend for the podium and Super G.

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01:00:31,627 --> 01:00:35,467
Speaker 6: Yeah, so Alice has been really focused on giant slalom

1192
01:00:35,547 --> 01:00:38,827
Speaker 6: this Olympic quad, but she said she had quite a

1193
01:00:38,867 --> 01:00:42,387
Speaker 6: history of Super G as well, and with the coaching

1194
01:00:42,427 --> 01:00:44,547
Speaker 6: team she was with in the last Olympic squad. She

1195
01:00:44,627 --> 01:00:46,747
Speaker 6: put a fair bit of effort into super G, so

1196
01:00:47,627 --> 01:00:49,827
Speaker 6: a lot of experience there, and you know it's it's

1197
01:00:49,907 --> 01:00:55,507
Speaker 6: not they are different sports. Superg's fat, disciplined, Supergs faster

1198
01:00:55,667 --> 01:00:59,787
Speaker 6: and things are spaced out a little bit more. But yeah,

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01:00:59,827 --> 01:01:03,747
Speaker 6: she's still Alice Robinson, She's still on skis, so they're

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01:01:03,787 --> 01:01:06,667
Speaker 6: not so far different that we wouldn't see cross over

1201
01:01:06,827 --> 01:01:11,147
Speaker 6: skill and we've seen that now it's the podium so

1202
01:01:11,147 --> 01:01:12,827
Speaker 6: so you know it's not the same as GS. She

1203
01:01:12,827 --> 01:01:15,507
Speaker 6: hasn't done ten podiums in a row or wherever, see

1204
01:01:15,547 --> 01:01:18,147
Speaker 6: that now, but certainly put herself on the radar.

1205
01:01:18,867 --> 01:01:22,467
Speaker 2: And chatting to her, she seemed to think, and I

1206
01:01:22,507 --> 01:01:26,667
Speaker 2: guess it's natural that the location of these games, Milan

1207
01:01:26,747 --> 01:01:28,587
Speaker 2: Cortina is going to be a lot more familiar than

1208
01:01:28,627 --> 01:01:31,507
Speaker 2: the last two in China and in South Korea. Will

1209
01:01:31,547 --> 01:01:33,947
Speaker 2: that also be the case for the other athletes who

1210
01:01:34,027 --> 01:01:37,467
Speaker 2: go from a New Zealand point of view, more familiarity

1211
01:01:37,547 --> 01:01:38,547
Speaker 2: with those conditions.

1212
01:01:39,547 --> 01:01:43,107
Speaker 6: Yes and no, so the park and pipe athletes, all

1213
01:01:43,147 --> 01:01:46,547
Speaker 6: of the facilities are brand new builds, so no one

1214
01:01:46,667 --> 01:01:52,747
Speaker 6: skied there before, and usually organizers build the course or

1215
01:01:52,787 --> 01:01:55,227
Speaker 6: our course in those venues the year before and we

1216
01:01:55,307 --> 01:01:57,747
Speaker 6: have what's called a test event, so they make sure

1217
01:01:57,787 --> 01:02:01,387
Speaker 6: the cameras work and that security works and things like that.

1218
01:02:01,427 --> 01:02:01,987
Speaker 10: But we didn't.

1219
01:02:01,987 --> 01:02:06,347
Speaker 6: We didn't get that the squad. So it's a familiar

1220
01:02:07,587 --> 01:02:10,747
Speaker 6: location in the world. We're close to Switzerland where we

1221
01:02:10,787 --> 01:02:14,027
Speaker 6: do quite a bit of training, but brand new courses.

1222
01:02:14,187 --> 01:02:18,907
Speaker 6: You know, we haven't stayed in Levino before. So yeah, yes, and.

1223
01:02:18,907 --> 01:02:22,907
Speaker 2: No Snowboard has always said, ASKI Senate already has three

1224
01:02:23,187 --> 01:02:25,667
Speaker 2: Olympic Middles incredibles. She's gone half of all of our

1225
01:02:25,947 --> 01:02:29,147
Speaker 2: Winter Olympic Middles, one of h KLA. I mean, you

1226
01:02:29,267 --> 01:02:32,107
Speaker 2: must feel confident that she can add to that hole

1227
01:02:32,187 --> 01:02:33,787
Speaker 2: in the in the big air and slip stall.

1228
01:02:35,067 --> 01:02:37,827
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, of course. You know, there's always a really

1229
01:02:37,947 --> 01:02:42,907
Speaker 6: established competitor and when when she's at World Cups or

1230
01:02:42,947 --> 01:02:47,827
Speaker 6: World Champs or Olympics, you're you know, you're you're optimistic.

1231
01:02:48,947 --> 01:02:52,547
Speaker 6: But yeah, she's taken things extremely seriously. She's got some

1232
01:02:52,587 --> 01:02:57,347
Speaker 6: stiff competition, so she and her coach Sean are working

1233
01:02:57,427 --> 01:02:59,547
Speaker 6: really hard to make sure she peaks at the Games.

1234
01:02:59,587 --> 01:03:01,667
Speaker 6: And you know that's why you'll hear hit the ground

1235
01:03:01,747 --> 01:03:03,787
Speaker 6: running in the new year. And she's been really focused

1236
01:03:03,827 --> 01:03:07,747
Speaker 6: on making sure she's in that fighting fitnition to get

1237
01:03:07,747 --> 01:03:09,667
Speaker 6: a peak in Milan in venue.

1238
01:03:09,987 --> 01:03:12,107
Speaker 2: It seems like she's been around for Reva. I guess

1239
01:03:12,147 --> 01:03:14,067
Speaker 2: she was very young when she when she won too

1240
01:03:14,067 --> 01:03:16,387
Speaker 2: bronze middle in twenty eighteen. But here she is still,

1241
01:03:16,667 --> 01:03:20,467
Speaker 2: you know, doing amazing things. And your experience, Luke, you know,

1242
01:03:21,227 --> 01:03:23,947
Speaker 2: what is the lifespan, like, could she go to another

1243
01:03:23,947 --> 01:03:27,427
Speaker 2: Winter Olympics two more? What's the situation there?

1244
01:03:27,667 --> 01:03:32,707
Speaker 6: Yeah, so what we generally see with parking pipe athletes

1245
01:03:32,747 --> 01:03:35,027
Speaker 6: as they do achieve at an early age, sixteen's a

1246
01:03:35,027 --> 01:03:39,227
Speaker 6: little earlier than normal. But you know, Zoe's not. She's

1247
01:03:39,307 --> 01:03:43,067
Speaker 6: kind of anything but normal, and a lot of park

1248
01:03:43,067 --> 01:03:47,827
Speaker 6: and pipe athletes can sustain longer. But we are seeing,

1249
01:03:47,867 --> 01:03:50,667
Speaker 6: you know, with the the advent of new training facilities

1250
01:03:50,707 --> 01:03:53,027
Speaker 6: like the dry slope that we've got now in the

1251
01:03:53,107 --> 01:03:56,387
Speaker 6: landing bag. You know, it's accelerating the learning curve for

1252
01:03:56,507 --> 01:04:00,667
Speaker 6: younger athletes and it is a gymnastics sport. So yeah,

1253
01:04:00,707 --> 01:04:04,307
Speaker 6: I think Zoe could definitely hang on and keep at

1254
01:04:04,347 --> 01:04:09,387
Speaker 6: that top winning level for another four years. We'd have

1255
01:04:09,427 --> 01:04:11,027
Speaker 6: to ask her if she wants to go for eight,

1256
01:04:11,187 --> 01:04:14,947
Speaker 6: but yeah, at some point the youngsters and that gymnastic

1257
01:04:15,027 --> 01:04:17,267
Speaker 6: ability does does catch up to you.

1258
01:04:17,907 --> 01:04:21,667
Speaker 2: So apart from Ellis and Zoe's, six other athletes confirmed

1259
01:04:21,667 --> 01:04:24,787
Speaker 2: at the moment, you got free stall ski as, Ruby Starr,

1260
01:04:24,787 --> 01:04:29,307
Speaker 2: Andrew's been Bicklay, Luca Harrington, Luke Harold, Finn Melville Ives

1261
01:04:29,387 --> 01:04:33,547
Speaker 2: and snowboarder Cam Melville Ives. What are your hopes for them?

1262
01:04:35,187 --> 01:04:38,387
Speaker 6: Hopes are really high. You know, all those athletes are

1263
01:04:38,427 --> 01:04:43,547
Speaker 6: working super hard and they're all targeting spots in the podium.

1264
01:04:43,667 --> 01:04:46,867
Speaker 6: You know, particularly look at Finn Ives and Louke Harroll

1265
01:04:46,947 --> 01:04:49,827
Speaker 6: who are sharing podiums at the moment and half pipe

1266
01:04:50,267 --> 01:04:53,507
Speaker 6: and have shared podiums before at the Youth Olympic Games,

1267
01:04:53,507 --> 01:04:59,787
Speaker 6: and Finn's the world champion, So you know, it's the Olympics,

1268
01:04:59,827 --> 01:05:02,547
Speaker 6: Isn't isn't completely different? You know, it's not a whole

1269
01:05:02,587 --> 01:05:05,387
Speaker 6: new field, it's not a new course. The rules don't change,

1270
01:05:05,427 --> 01:05:08,667
Speaker 6: so it's it'll be about managing pressure and managing a

1271
01:05:08,747 --> 01:05:12,787
Speaker 6: first time Olympic experience for those guys. But they're absolutely

1272
01:05:12,827 --> 01:05:16,227
Speaker 6: in the podium and a winning conversation in that regard.

1273
01:05:16,267 --> 01:05:18,667
Speaker 2: Then do you have a middle target for the Games?

1274
01:05:18,707 --> 01:05:20,547
Speaker 2: You don't have to tell us what it is necessarily,

1275
01:05:20,667 --> 01:05:23,867
Speaker 2: But but do you do you, you know, in private conversations

1276
01:05:23,907 --> 01:05:25,187
Speaker 2: have a middle target.

1277
01:05:26,507 --> 01:05:29,747
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think we We don't have sort of

1278
01:05:29,747 --> 01:05:32,467
Speaker 6: a we must get this or go over what you know,

1279
01:05:32,547 --> 01:05:35,147
Speaker 6: It's more what I've just said is, you know it

1280
01:05:35,267 --> 01:05:37,387
Speaker 6: kind of have We have athletes who are achieving now,

1281
01:05:37,427 --> 01:05:40,587
Speaker 6: and we have athletes who are targeting metals, so a

1282
01:05:40,627 --> 01:05:42,347
Speaker 6: little bit of a range and you know, you kind

1283
01:05:42,347 --> 01:05:45,467
Speaker 6: of have your your upper end that you're optimistic and

1284
01:05:45,467 --> 01:05:47,747
Speaker 6: and and that and the aim and the other end

1285
01:05:47,747 --> 01:05:50,107
Speaker 6: where you're saying, okay, this is this is sort of

1286
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Speaker 6: proven and but it all comes down to on the day.

1287
01:05:53,827 --> 01:05:57,387
Speaker 6: It's an individual sport, you know, whether it's a factor.

1288
01:05:58,787 --> 01:05:58,987
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1289
01:05:59,147 --> 01:06:03,107
Speaker 6: So yeah, we we certainly have our hopes and you

1290
01:06:03,147 --> 01:06:07,787
Speaker 6: know I think that yeah, you know, I think we'll

1291
01:06:07,827 --> 01:06:10,667
Speaker 6: be hitting targets that we're happy with.

1292
01:06:10,867 --> 01:06:12,707
Speaker 2: All Right, Well, I can see a twenty eighteen to

1293
01:06:12,787 --> 01:06:16,787
Speaker 2: two two three, I'm gonna say four. I'm gonna say four.

1294
01:06:17,107 --> 01:06:18,587
Speaker 2: Would you be happy with four kids?

1295
01:06:19,027 --> 01:06:20,907
Speaker 6: We'd be happy and we'd be happy with four and

1296
01:06:21,227 --> 01:06:24,747
Speaker 6: you know, I just I'm just really happy and for

1297
01:06:24,827 --> 01:06:28,547
Speaker 6: the athletes, you know, in general, and it's kind of

1298
01:06:28,547 --> 01:06:30,267
Speaker 6: one of those things. You get there and it's all

1299
01:06:30,347 --> 01:06:32,107
Speaker 6: up to them, right, They're the ones who are standing

1300
01:06:32,147 --> 01:06:33,907
Speaker 6: in the stargate and they have to drop in and

1301
01:06:33,947 --> 01:06:37,707
Speaker 6: they have to win the medals. So I'm just happy

1302
01:06:37,747 --> 01:06:39,787
Speaker 6: for happy for them and proud of them for making

1303
01:06:39,827 --> 01:06:41,827
Speaker 6: it there and putting in so much an effort. And

1304
01:06:42,827 --> 01:06:44,867
Speaker 6: I kind of think that's one of the mindsets that

1305
01:06:45,307 --> 01:06:49,427
Speaker 6: snowsports does really well, and that turns into medals. You know,

1306
01:06:49,707 --> 01:06:52,507
Speaker 6: we don't really it's not so black and white that

1307
01:06:52,827 --> 01:06:54,827
Speaker 6: they must achieve this or do that and we have

1308
01:06:54,827 --> 01:06:57,427
Speaker 6: a minimum target. It's like, hey, let's focus on getting

1309
01:06:57,467 --> 01:06:59,667
Speaker 6: better and focus on progression and being the best we

1310
01:06:59,747 --> 01:07:02,747
Speaker 6: can and you know, lo and behold. That turns into happy,

1311
01:07:02,787 --> 01:07:03,947
Speaker 6: healthy athletes.

1312
01:07:04,347 --> 01:07:07,747
Speaker 2: Who win, great system and eight athletes, as we've mentioned,

1313
01:07:07,827 --> 01:07:10,507
Speaker 2: name to compete so far. Might we have more than that? Well?

1314
01:07:10,707 --> 01:07:13,787
Speaker 2: Is there the possibility others could be added, you know

1315
01:07:14,187 --> 01:07:17,667
Speaker 2: during the European winter or is eight the final number?

1316
01:07:19,707 --> 01:07:23,747
Speaker 6: No, we will assuredly have more athletes. So the final

1317
01:07:24,467 --> 01:07:29,107
Speaker 6: election will be on January thirteenth, give or take. Internally,

1318
01:07:29,187 --> 01:07:31,907
Speaker 6: and public announcement will be closer to the games in

1319
01:07:31,987 --> 01:07:37,307
Speaker 6: late January, but we will definitely have more. It's an

1320
01:07:37,307 --> 01:07:40,907
Speaker 6: interesting system. So the qualification events run right up until

1321
01:07:40,947 --> 01:07:43,427
Speaker 6: the beginning of the Games, and so we only select

1322
01:07:43,427 --> 01:07:47,467
Speaker 6: athletes when they've met a threshold that we think people

1323
01:07:47,547 --> 01:07:51,387
Speaker 6: couldn't overtake them. So some athletes get that early and

1324
01:07:51,507 --> 01:07:54,067
Speaker 6: other athletes need to wait for the whole qualification period.

1325
01:07:54,347 --> 01:07:56,227
Speaker 2: All right, look forward to seeing who gets added in

1326
01:07:56,307 --> 01:07:59,107
Speaker 2: the new year. Look great to get your update. Thanks indeed,

1327
01:07:59,147 --> 01:08:01,267
Speaker 2: an exciting time ahead. We can't wait for the Winter

1328
01:08:01,307 --> 01:08:03,467
Speaker 2: Olympics to roll around, as I'm sure you can't either.

1329
01:08:03,547 --> 01:08:05,467
Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the top. Thanks for taking the top

1330
01:08:05,507 --> 01:08:06,787
Speaker 2: for a chat Worries.

1331
01:08:06,787 --> 01:08:07,747
Speaker 6: Thanks Jason, I'm good one.

1332
01:08:07,787 --> 01:08:10,027
Speaker 2: You're good one. To Luke, thanks indeed. Luke Hetzel, general

1333
01:08:10,027 --> 01:08:12,427
Speaker 2: manager of high Performance at snow Sports New Zealand. So

1334
01:08:12,547 --> 01:08:16,027
Speaker 2: the Winter Games, they're actually not that far away. They

1335
01:08:16,067 --> 01:08:18,787
Speaker 2: start on Friday, the sixth of February and run through

1336
01:08:18,787 --> 01:08:22,027
Speaker 2: to Sunday, the twenty second of February, so by the

1337
01:08:22,067 --> 01:08:24,427
Speaker 2: time we get through Christmas and New Year there'll be

1338
01:08:24,787 --> 01:08:28,107
Speaker 2: just a month away. So very much looking forward to

1339
01:08:28,147 --> 01:08:31,267
Speaker 2: seeing how we go. I reckon falls realistic. You look

1340
01:08:31,267 --> 01:08:33,707
Speaker 2: at Zoe for starters, she could get two by herself.

1341
01:08:34,067 --> 01:08:37,667
Speaker 2: Alice Robinson certainly has to be a contender in Giants Lalom,

1342
01:08:37,707 --> 01:08:38,707
Speaker 2: if not super Ger as well.

1343
01:08:38,747 --> 01:08:39,107
Speaker 5: That's full.

1344
01:08:40,107 --> 01:08:42,827
Speaker 2: I've given you four already and then there's everybody else

1345
01:08:42,867 --> 01:08:44,867
Speaker 2: in the team. Look at it'll be. I'd have to

1346
01:08:44,907 --> 01:08:47,947
Speaker 2: think it would be our most successful Winter Games ever,

1347
01:08:48,187 --> 01:08:49,947
Speaker 2: given the fact that it took so long to get

1348
01:08:49,947 --> 01:08:52,867
Speaker 2: one that was Anneliza Coburger in nineteen ninety two, and

1349
01:08:52,867 --> 01:08:54,747
Speaker 2: then beyond that it took ages to get our next

1350
01:08:54,747 --> 01:08:59,507
Speaker 2: ones twenty eighteen Nico Porteus and Zoe Sadowski Senate and

1351
01:08:59,547 --> 01:09:04,027
Speaker 2: then those two again Meddling in twenty twenty two. It

1352
01:09:04,107 --> 01:09:06,347
Speaker 2: just goes to show the rise, doesn't it, of snow

1353
01:09:06,427 --> 01:09:11,147
Speaker 2: sports in New Zealand. Just it seems like every week

1354
01:09:11,907 --> 01:09:16,067
Speaker 2: one of these mainly young athletes is doing amazing things

1355
01:09:16,147 --> 01:09:18,867
Speaker 2: on the World Cup circuit up in the European winter.

1356
01:09:19,587 --> 01:09:21,787
Speaker 2: So who knows what the Winter Olympic Games might hold.

1357
01:09:21,827 --> 01:09:26,547
Speaker 2: In Milana, Courtina on February sixth through twenty two, covers

1358
01:09:26,547 --> 01:09:28,787
Speaker 2: are off at the Adelaide Oval. The sun is out,

1359
01:09:28,867 --> 01:09:31,067
Speaker 2: there was just a brief rain shower. England will resume

1360
01:09:31,107 --> 01:09:34,667
Speaker 2: shortly at two thirty. What did I say? Two thirty

1361
01:09:34,947 --> 01:09:36,867
Speaker 2: I need to check two forty one was it for six?

1362
01:09:37,307 --> 01:09:40,027
Speaker 2: Two forty one for six, needing one hundred and ninety

1363
01:09:40,027 --> 01:09:41,947
Speaker 2: four more runs, and they're heading back out onto the

1364
01:09:43,147 --> 01:09:45,787
Speaker 2: playing surface at Bay Oval as well, with New Zealand

1365
01:09:45,867 --> 01:09:48,907
Speaker 2: resuming in their second innings after lunch thirty five of

1366
01:09:48,947 --> 01:09:50,867
Speaker 2: that loss E eleven, one hundred and ninety over the

1367
01:09:50,907 --> 01:09:53,307
Speaker 2: West Indies as they look to set a total and

1368
01:09:53,507 --> 01:09:55,147
Speaker 2: try and bowl the Windy's out for a two mill

1369
01:09:55,187 --> 01:09:56,907
Speaker 2: Series one. I guess the Windys must feel as though

1370
01:09:56,907 --> 01:09:59,707
Speaker 2: they could win the Test match. It feels unlikely that

1371
01:09:59,747 --> 01:10:02,387
Speaker 2: they will bowl New Zealand out, although stranger things have happened.

1372
01:10:02,747 --> 01:10:06,347
Speaker 2: But they can keep those runs down perhaps and restraint

1373
01:10:06,587 --> 01:10:09,707
Speaker 2: them and then give themselves half an opportunity tomorrow. Who knows?

1374
01:10:10,267 --> 01:10:13,507
Speaker 2: Who knows? Twenty two away from two, it's take a

1375
01:10:13,507 --> 01:10:16,187
Speaker 2: break come back. James mcconey in his regular Sunday slot,

1376
01:10:16,267 --> 01:10:18,867
Speaker 2: joining us live in studio.

1377
01:10:18,747 --> 01:10:22,227
Speaker 1: The Big Issues on and after Fields Call Oh eight

1378
01:10:22,267 --> 01:10:26,067
Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty Weekends Forward with Jason Pain and GJ.

1379
01:10:26,187 --> 01:10:29,747
Speaker 1: Gunner homes New Zealand's first trusted home. Miilder News talks a.

1380
01:10:29,827 --> 01:10:33,187
Speaker 2: Baby nineteen away from two for the final time this year,

1381
01:10:33,187 --> 01:10:35,507
Speaker 2: but certainly I hope anyway not the final time ever.

1382
01:10:35,547 --> 01:10:38,587
Speaker 2: I'm looking at extending his contract into twenty twenty six.

1383
01:10:39,227 --> 01:10:42,027
Speaker 2: My people are talking to his people. James mcconey live

1384
01:10:42,067 --> 01:10:42,467
Speaker 2: in studio.

1385
01:10:42,507 --> 01:10:46,067
Speaker 12: Hello, mate, you were in negotiations, I guess and talks

1386
01:10:46,107 --> 01:10:50,587
Speaker 12: and hopefully, you know, we can come to an amicol agreement.

1387
01:10:50,627 --> 01:10:52,747
Speaker 12: But hey, look, I know that there's been trade talks

1388
01:10:52,787 --> 01:10:57,307
Speaker 12: as well, but I can't confirm nor deny any of that.

1389
01:10:57,667 --> 01:10:59,107
Speaker 12: I'm very happy to be part of the show.

1390
01:10:59,587 --> 01:11:02,267
Speaker 2: You know. I don't see anybody at any competing radio

1391
01:11:02,267 --> 01:11:05,427
Speaker 2: stations who I would bring in or certainly I wouldn't

1392
01:11:05,427 --> 01:11:08,107
Speaker 2: release you to a competing radio station either.

1393
01:11:08,147 --> 01:11:08,347
Speaker 5: Thanks.

1394
01:11:08,387 --> 01:11:09,707
Speaker 2: I just hope we can. I just hope we can

1395
01:11:09,747 --> 01:11:12,067
Speaker 2: take the learnings from twenty to twenty five.

1396
01:11:12,347 --> 01:11:14,947
Speaker 5: Wow, we did need to do that with sporting cliches.

1397
01:11:15,027 --> 01:11:19,307
Speaker 2: Yes, few, Where should we start? Last couple of days

1398
01:11:19,747 --> 01:11:22,067
Speaker 2: we've had a couple of vacancies open up at our

1399
01:11:22,227 --> 01:11:26,507
Speaker 2: national sporting organizations Netborn New Zealand and New Zealand Cricket.

1400
01:11:26,507 --> 01:11:29,307
Speaker 2: We still do and have a CEO for New Zealand Rugby,

1401
01:11:29,347 --> 01:11:32,867
Speaker 2: so three pretty big jobs without anybody in those chairs

1402
01:11:32,907 --> 01:11:34,707
Speaker 2: as we head into the new year.

1403
01:11:35,067 --> 01:11:37,587
Speaker 12: Yeah, well, obviously I've dusted off the CV applying for

1404
01:11:37,627 --> 01:11:41,587
Speaker 12: both both gigs. I don't think I'll be too successful.

1405
01:11:41,627 --> 01:11:44,907
Speaker 12: After one of my previous shows with you, Piney talking

1406
01:11:44,947 --> 01:11:49,627
Speaker 12: about the consortium that rolled the CEO of New Zealand

1407
01:11:49,627 --> 01:11:53,747
Speaker 12: cricket behay always here to help and in the case

1408
01:11:53,787 --> 01:11:56,027
Speaker 12: of netball, I guess you could see that one coming

1409
01:11:56,107 --> 01:11:59,867
Speaker 12: too from further away. The cricket one, though, I do

1410
01:12:00,067 --> 01:12:03,507
Speaker 12: find a little bit tricky because you know, Scott Win

1411
01:12:03,747 --> 01:12:06,667
Speaker 12: seemed to be doing a good job but then got

1412
01:12:06,707 --> 01:12:10,227
Speaker 12: offside with the wrong people, and that's what can happen.

1413
01:12:10,227 --> 01:12:12,747
Speaker 12: And I thought you made a really good point yesterday Piney,

1414
01:12:12,987 --> 01:12:17,147
Speaker 12: when you're saying, ultimately, these people are servants there to

1415
01:12:17,187 --> 01:12:22,387
Speaker 12: serve and the board give them their direction and if

1416
01:12:22,427 --> 01:12:27,787
Speaker 12: they lose the room, let's say the boardroom, they run

1417
01:12:27,827 --> 01:12:29,347
Speaker 12: the risk of being ousted.

1418
01:12:29,387 --> 01:12:31,987
Speaker 5: And that's what's happened with Scott Yeah.

1419
01:12:32,147 --> 01:12:34,587
Speaker 2: Do you think I don't know someone was saying him.

1420
01:12:34,587 --> 01:12:36,947
Speaker 2: I can't remember what it was about about former players,

1421
01:12:37,347 --> 01:12:39,827
Speaker 2: and I think cricket, probably more than some other sports,

1422
01:12:39,867 --> 01:12:42,507
Speaker 2: has had former players at the helm. The likes of

1423
01:12:42,907 --> 01:12:46,387
Speaker 2: David White. Justin Vaughan was another one. I'm sure there

1424
01:12:46,387 --> 01:12:48,907
Speaker 2: have been others who have headed up New Zealand cricket,

1425
01:12:48,907 --> 01:12:51,747
Speaker 2: do you think and Mark Robinson of course with the

1426
01:12:52,467 --> 01:12:55,827
Speaker 2: New Zealand rugby job, the former All Black. I just

1427
01:12:55,867 --> 01:12:58,347
Speaker 2: feel like that Paul is so small though. Isn't it

1428
01:12:58,387 --> 01:13:02,387
Speaker 2: of former players who have the commercial acumen to be

1429
01:13:02,467 --> 01:13:03,467
Speaker 2: able to do the gig.

1430
01:13:04,027 --> 01:13:07,907
Speaker 12: Yeah, there's in the case of cricket that they did

1431
01:13:07,987 --> 01:13:10,907
Speaker 12: need something, you know, sort of a breath of fresh air,

1432
01:13:11,267 --> 01:13:15,187
Speaker 12: and I think Scott provided that. But in many ways

1433
01:13:15,387 --> 01:13:18,947
Speaker 12: you have to bring everybody with you. And when I

1434
01:13:18,947 --> 01:13:22,107
Speaker 12: was listening to your monologue yesterday, you are serving the

1435
01:13:22,107 --> 01:13:24,147
Speaker 12: sport as a whole and I think a lot of people,

1436
01:13:24,227 --> 01:13:29,107
Speaker 12: even cricket fans, could see that. Look, the Super Smash,

1437
01:13:29,187 --> 01:13:33,187
Speaker 12: which is what the consortium wants to rejuvenate, needed something,

1438
01:13:33,307 --> 01:13:36,227
Speaker 12: it needed, it needed something new. I think he probably

1439
01:13:36,227 --> 01:13:38,627
Speaker 12: would have been on board with that, but we'll never know.

1440
01:13:39,227 --> 01:13:41,867
Speaker 12: And so now I sort of feel like if we're

1441
01:13:41,867 --> 01:13:44,027
Speaker 12: getting down the nuts and bolts of what fans want

1442
01:13:44,067 --> 01:13:47,587
Speaker 12: to see, they want to see big players playing at

1443
01:13:47,587 --> 01:13:50,947
Speaker 12: home more often, and the players themselves want to want

1444
01:13:50,947 --> 01:13:53,227
Speaker 12: to be paid really well for that. So hey, I'm

1445
01:13:53,227 --> 01:13:57,227
Speaker 12: all for a rejuvenated super Smash, hopefully with the longest

1446
01:13:57,227 --> 01:14:00,547
Speaker 12: throw competition between the things that would really pique my interest.

1447
01:14:01,907 --> 01:14:04,427
Speaker 12: Everybody remembers the kid who had the longest throw at school,

1448
01:14:04,467 --> 01:14:04,907
Speaker 12: don't they?

1449
01:14:04,947 --> 01:14:05,147
Speaker 2: For me?

1450
01:14:05,227 --> 01:14:08,427
Speaker 12: It was Alistair peak at tell me to intermediate. Shout

1451
01:14:08,467 --> 01:14:10,547
Speaker 12: out to Alistair. Do you remember your the longest thrower

1452
01:14:10,547 --> 01:14:11,107
Speaker 12: at your school?

1453
01:14:11,507 --> 01:14:14,307
Speaker 2: But I do remember the guy with the longest kick

1454
01:14:14,427 --> 01:14:17,307
Speaker 2: because I went to a Do you remember Cubs? Do

1455
01:14:17,307 --> 01:14:20,107
Speaker 2: you remember cubs the four runners to Scouts.

1456
01:14:20,347 --> 01:14:20,907
Speaker 5: I was scout.

1457
01:14:21,347 --> 01:14:23,787
Speaker 2: I was a Cub. I went to Cub camp and

1458
01:14:23,987 --> 01:14:26,307
Speaker 2: the competition to kick, and it was to kick a

1459
01:14:26,307 --> 01:14:28,427
Speaker 2: football a soccer ball as we caught it back then

1460
01:14:28,587 --> 01:14:31,387
Speaker 2: as far as you could. And David Nelson, very good

1461
01:14:31,387 --> 01:14:33,827
Speaker 2: football player, he was winning. And then one of my

1462
01:14:33,907 --> 01:14:37,347
Speaker 2: best mates, Matt Kelly, who was a rugby player, kicked

1463
01:14:37,387 --> 01:14:41,307
Speaker 2: it further. And the head of the Scouts, the Cubs

1464
01:14:41,347 --> 01:14:44,587
Speaker 2: are Kayla, was a big rugby man, and he celebrated

1465
01:14:44,987 --> 01:14:48,107
Speaker 2: that one of the rugby playing Cubs had beaten one

1466
01:14:48,147 --> 01:14:50,947
Speaker 2: of the soccer playing cubs in the longest kick.

1467
01:14:51,187 --> 01:14:51,387
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1468
01:14:51,427 --> 01:14:53,747
Speaker 12: See, that's the thing. Everybody remembers that kind of stuff,

1469
01:14:53,747 --> 01:14:55,347
Speaker 12: So I think they do need to bring back that

1470
01:14:55,387 --> 01:14:59,627
Speaker 12: sort of festival atmosphere to domestic cricket, and I'm sure

1471
01:14:59,667 --> 01:15:02,227
Speaker 12: the Consortium are making moves to do that, so good

1472
01:15:02,267 --> 01:15:04,267
Speaker 12: on them for that. But the one thing I'd like

1473
01:15:04,307 --> 01:15:07,747
Speaker 12: to see is that for New Zealand, for New Zealand

1474
01:15:07,747 --> 01:15:09,907
Speaker 12: to have a team in the Big Bash, both men's

1475
01:15:09,947 --> 01:15:12,747
Speaker 12: and women's. I think it's still if you can do both,

1476
01:15:12,947 --> 01:15:15,147
Speaker 12: why can't we have both? Like the old El Paso

1477
01:15:15,907 --> 01:15:18,027
Speaker 12: taco ad, you know the Little Girl? Can we have

1478
01:15:18,107 --> 01:15:20,547
Speaker 12: soft shell or hard shell tacos?

1479
01:15:21,067 --> 01:15:23,467
Speaker 2: You know, I don't think anything shall be off the

1480
01:15:23,507 --> 01:15:26,467
Speaker 2: table when you're looking to innovate, Yes, and when we

1481
01:15:26,507 --> 01:15:29,027
Speaker 2: wait to see what happens. Hey on the field. They're

1482
01:15:29,067 --> 01:15:30,907
Speaker 2: back on the field at both the Adelaide Oval where

1483
01:15:30,907 --> 01:15:32,867
Speaker 2: there was a brief break for rain and also at

1484
01:15:32,907 --> 01:15:36,947
Speaker 2: Bay Oval in Mount Monganui. So New Zealand to currently

1485
01:15:36,987 --> 01:15:38,987
Speaker 2: head one hundred and ninety one, what would you want

1486
01:15:39,027 --> 01:15:41,307
Speaker 2: to get to before you pulled out and gave West

1487
01:15:41,387 --> 01:15:42,467
Speaker 2: Indies a run chase?

1488
01:15:43,267 --> 01:15:46,027
Speaker 12: Well, they famously chased down I think three fifty eight

1489
01:15:46,027 --> 01:15:48,147
Speaker 12: and nineteen sixty nine. Not that I want to blind

1490
01:15:48,187 --> 01:15:53,347
Speaker 12: you with a stat like that Piney Cigar Fi that team.

1491
01:15:53,427 --> 01:15:55,587
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, yeah, what a chase. It was.

1492
01:15:55,587 --> 01:15:57,947
Speaker 12: A chaser was a batsman called Seymour Nurse, which does

1493
01:15:57,987 --> 01:16:02,667
Speaker 12: sound like a carry on movie character. But I'd say

1494
01:16:02,667 --> 01:16:05,467
Speaker 12: you want to be well clear of three point fifty.

1495
01:16:06,467 --> 01:16:09,587
Speaker 12: I guess you know time will be a factor, but

1496
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Speaker 12: you know, New Zealand and in a great spot. What

1497
01:16:13,107 --> 01:16:15,227
Speaker 12: I really wanted to touch on with the Black Caps

1498
01:16:15,307 --> 01:16:18,787
Speaker 12: is how well the openers have have done this series

1499
01:16:18,827 --> 01:16:22,187
Speaker 12: and really sort of set a platform. So you know,

1500
01:16:22,187 --> 01:16:25,347
Speaker 12: we've had Latham in the previous test get a big

1501
01:16:25,387 --> 01:16:28,427
Speaker 12: ton and now with Devin Conway getting that double ton

1502
01:16:29,347 --> 01:16:32,467
Speaker 12: opening in New Zealand. They say that is the toughest

1503
01:16:32,867 --> 01:16:36,067
Speaker 12: ask for for any better. You know, the conditions in

1504
01:16:36,107 --> 01:16:38,307
Speaker 12: New Zealand with the green seema at the start, So

1505
01:16:38,947 --> 01:16:41,947
Speaker 12: just seeing those guys do that was was so heartening,

1506
01:16:41,987 --> 01:16:45,547
Speaker 12: and you know, you love that good opening, the good

1507
01:16:45,587 --> 01:16:49,147
Speaker 12: opening stand so really Conway, I think I thought that

1508
01:16:49,227 --> 01:16:53,347
Speaker 12: he was possibly a candidate for the chop, but you know,

1509
01:16:53,387 --> 01:16:56,747
Speaker 12: the life there with Devon absolutely well.

1510
01:16:56,747 --> 01:16:59,707
Speaker 2: Three hundred and fifty two runs before listenings and another

1511
01:16:59,747 --> 01:17:02,547
Speaker 2: twenty five today, so he's up three seventy seven. He

1512
01:17:02,547 --> 01:17:04,547
Speaker 2: could bring up four hundred runs for the series today.

1513
01:17:04,747 --> 01:17:06,867
Speaker 2: You know, for a guy who have, as you say,

1514
01:17:06,987 --> 01:17:09,467
Speaker 2: was probably in doubt in terms of a spot in

1515
01:17:09,507 --> 01:17:12,387
Speaker 2: the team, he's he's responded in the best possible way.

1516
01:17:12,387 --> 01:17:13,707
Speaker 2: The other one, I know what you want to get

1517
01:17:13,707 --> 01:17:16,347
Speaker 2: to your sporting highlights of the year, but Jacob Duffy

1518
01:17:16,827 --> 01:17:20,507
Speaker 2: eighteen wickets across the series shall have another bowling innings

1519
01:17:20,547 --> 01:17:22,627
Speaker 2: of course in this Test. I mean for a guy

1520
01:17:22,667 --> 01:17:25,907
Speaker 2: who has played very little Test cricket to step up

1521
01:17:26,307 --> 01:17:28,827
Speaker 2: and lead the attack in the absence of Matt Henry,

1522
01:17:29,627 --> 01:17:32,587
Speaker 2: Nathan Smith, Blair, will I rok a lot of these guys.

1523
01:17:32,667 --> 01:17:36,187
Speaker 2: I've just loved watching Jacob Duffy bowl in this series.

1524
01:17:36,307 --> 01:17:37,227
Speaker 5: Yes exactly.

1525
01:17:37,267 --> 01:17:39,227
Speaker 12: And I think Duffy has shown that when we go

1526
01:17:39,267 --> 01:17:41,067
Speaker 12: to England you keep him.

1527
01:17:41,107 --> 01:17:41,747
Speaker 5: He's a keeper.

1528
01:17:41,827 --> 01:17:44,467
Speaker 12: I know that they've been filling in and you know

1529
01:17:44,507 --> 01:17:47,547
Speaker 12: with Will O'Rourke will come back, but Duffy looks the

1530
01:17:47,587 --> 01:17:49,667
Speaker 12: goods and I'm happy to see it. And we want

1531
01:17:49,747 --> 01:17:51,427
Speaker 12: to be seeing New Zeland play for a while. So

1532
01:17:51,827 --> 01:17:54,267
Speaker 12: you will have to watch thestic domestic cricket out there

1533
01:17:54,347 --> 01:17:58,387
Speaker 12: and the we've talked about a lot about batters, but

1534
01:17:58,387 --> 01:18:00,787
Speaker 12: there's an all rounder out there for Auckland, Simon Kean,

1535
01:18:00,827 --> 01:18:02,467
Speaker 12: who I like the look of so maybe keep an

1536
01:18:02,467 --> 01:18:05,707
Speaker 12: eye on him for the future. But yeah, it's just

1537
01:18:05,747 --> 01:18:08,787
Speaker 12: been a really solid effort and if they carry on

1538
01:18:08,827 --> 01:18:11,347
Speaker 12: this way, it's good points towards the Test Championship as

1539
01:18:11,387 --> 01:18:13,227
Speaker 12: well the World Test Championship.

1540
01:18:13,587 --> 01:18:15,827
Speaker 2: Absolutely all right. At the end of any year, we

1541
01:18:15,907 --> 01:18:18,707
Speaker 2: always look back on the year. So you've got your

1542
01:18:18,707 --> 01:18:22,427
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five highlights, a sporting podium if you will,

1543
01:18:22,467 --> 01:18:24,307
Speaker 2: So shall we start with the bronze.

1544
01:18:23,867 --> 01:18:27,267
Speaker 12: Medal, Yes, a bronze. I'm coming in with the number sevens.

1545
01:18:27,307 --> 01:18:29,827
Speaker 12: I couldn't separate them because they all did something special.

1546
01:18:29,827 --> 01:18:34,227
Speaker 12: But Georgia Miller bursting onto the scene looking like the best.

1547
01:18:33,947 --> 01:18:35,867
Speaker 5: Player in the world was just amazing.

1548
01:18:35,947 --> 01:18:39,547
Speaker 12: She got a hamstring injury which slowed her role somewhat

1549
01:18:39,387 --> 01:18:42,307
Speaker 12: at the World Cup, but wow, what a player. And

1550
01:18:42,347 --> 01:18:45,707
Speaker 12: then Ardie Savier playing what some are calling the greatest

1551
01:18:45,747 --> 01:18:49,347
Speaker 12: ever Super rugby game of all time Wina pacifica versus

1552
01:18:49,387 --> 01:18:53,227
Speaker 12: the Blues I think, and that was just where. I

1553
01:18:53,267 --> 01:18:57,067
Speaker 12: mean everything he touched turned a goal gold, including a

1554
01:18:57,147 --> 01:18:59,987
Speaker 12: turnover to win the game, right at the death at

1555
01:18:59,987 --> 01:19:05,867
Speaker 12: North Harbor Stadium there and then of course Lucas Casey,

1556
01:19:05,067 --> 01:19:10,107
Speaker 12: the young flanker for Otago pretty much just winning the

1557
01:19:10,147 --> 01:19:14,147
Speaker 12: shield with two incredible solo tries, one where he stepped

1558
01:19:14,147 --> 01:19:17,227
Speaker 12: the fullback left them like a statue. I just thought, okay,

1559
01:19:17,387 --> 01:19:20,027
Speaker 12: those number sevens are in bronze. I'll move on to silver.

1560
01:19:20,067 --> 01:19:25,027
Speaker 12: Show pony, yes if I may. Yes, Lecqua hala Seema's

1561
01:19:25,147 --> 01:19:28,187
Speaker 12: last minute try for the wars over Newcastle.

1562
01:19:28,467 --> 01:19:30,427
Speaker 5: Let's be honest, last second.

1563
01:19:30,987 --> 01:19:34,387
Speaker 2: Yes, there was no hope there, No, you totally what

1564
01:19:34,427 --> 01:19:36,227
Speaker 2: you forget, isn't it. But when you as soon as

1565
01:19:36,267 --> 01:19:38,307
Speaker 2: you said it, I thought, yes, it all came sort

1566
01:19:38,307 --> 01:19:39,107
Speaker 2: of flooding back.

1567
01:19:39,267 --> 01:19:40,787
Speaker 5: Yeah, and everybody watched that.

1568
01:19:40,867 --> 01:19:42,947
Speaker 12: What a what a privilege, what a buzz to see

1569
01:19:42,987 --> 01:19:45,347
Speaker 12: that happen, just shot out of a cannon that the

1570
01:19:45,427 --> 01:19:49,307
Speaker 12: speedy had, but the step as well at pace to

1571
01:19:49,387 --> 01:19:52,787
Speaker 12: get around. I mean, you know, Christian Cullen, name your

1572
01:19:52,787 --> 01:19:55,987
Speaker 12: favorite hot stepper, Sean Johnson, you know, go back to

1573
01:19:56,067 --> 01:19:59,827
Speaker 12: Johnny Schuster. There's there was a beautiful piece of footwork

1574
01:20:00,347 --> 01:20:03,227
Speaker 12: and Lecqua Halasima just winning that game and getting the

1575
01:20:03,267 --> 01:20:05,547
Speaker 12: Warriors back on track because they're in a bit of

1576
01:20:05,547 --> 01:20:09,107
Speaker 12: a mid season five, so that's mass Silva and.

1577
01:20:09,187 --> 01:20:11,947
Speaker 2: For gold, who's on top of the twenty twenty five

1578
01:20:11,987 --> 01:20:12,747
Speaker 2: podium for you?

1579
01:20:13,027 --> 01:20:15,667
Speaker 12: Well, look, with apologies to Hamosh Kerr because he is

1580
01:20:15,707 --> 01:20:18,507
Speaker 12: an all time great of high jump, but his New

1581
01:20:18,587 --> 01:20:23,067
Speaker 12: Zealand Athletics teammate Jordy Beamish where winning the three thousand

1582
01:20:23,067 --> 01:20:25,667
Speaker 12: meters steeple chase at the World Champs in Tokyo. That

1583
01:20:25,947 --> 01:20:28,187
Speaker 12: is my gold medalist, the literal gold medal.

1584
01:20:28,627 --> 01:20:31,107
Speaker 2: Yes, and look, I don't think you'll get too many arguments.

1585
01:20:31,107 --> 01:20:34,507
Speaker 2: You know, first ever, our previous golds all field events,

1586
01:20:34,507 --> 01:20:36,187
Speaker 2: weren't they? And the fact that he got stood on

1587
01:20:36,667 --> 01:20:39,827
Speaker 2: in the heat the story stood on the face and

1588
01:20:39,867 --> 01:20:42,067
Speaker 2: he got up, caught up, made the final and then

1589
01:20:42,187 --> 01:20:46,427
Speaker 2: charged down to beat to beat the double defending Olympic

1590
01:20:46,427 --> 01:20:50,587
Speaker 2: and World champion Sufian Elba Kali. It's an incredible story

1591
01:20:50,667 --> 01:20:52,947
Speaker 2: from He's a bit quirky, isn't he would have met

1592
01:20:52,987 --> 01:20:54,307
Speaker 2: Jordy Beamish, she's a bit quirky.

1593
01:20:54,387 --> 01:20:56,427
Speaker 12: Yeah, I do like Jordi Bemis. They say he's a

1594
01:20:56,427 --> 01:20:59,547
Speaker 12: good hang. He's actually just really relaxed, you know, he's

1595
01:21:00,347 --> 01:21:02,827
Speaker 12: just a lovely guy. From the from a farm in

1596
01:21:02,907 --> 01:21:05,947
Speaker 12: Hawks Bay, fun of fun of Valley, shout out to

1597
01:21:06,027 --> 01:21:10,307
Speaker 12: them west of Hastings there at the bottom of the

1598
01:21:10,387 --> 01:21:13,067
Speaker 12: Huahina Rangers. That's where he's from. And in factor, his

1599
01:21:13,187 --> 01:21:16,947
Speaker 12: father won an award this year for environmental farming. So

1600
01:21:17,467 --> 01:21:21,027
Speaker 12: great year for the Beamishes because last year Jordie was

1601
01:21:21,067 --> 01:21:23,307
Speaker 12: guarded after Paris. He just wouldn't even want to talk

1602
01:21:23,347 --> 01:21:26,867
Speaker 12: about it, and so he carried that really heavily, and

1603
01:21:26,947 --> 01:21:29,187
Speaker 12: you can see that's the heart of a champion. It's

1604
01:21:29,227 --> 01:21:31,707
Speaker 12: stung not to do well in Paris, although he did

1605
01:21:31,747 --> 01:21:35,107
Speaker 12: have I think it was called a stress, a pelvic

1606
01:21:35,147 --> 01:21:38,987
Speaker 12: stress reaction, which is something I haven't had for some time.

1607
01:21:39,067 --> 01:21:43,107
Speaker 2: Pony right, Well, on that note, maybe we should finish

1608
01:21:43,347 --> 01:21:46,987
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Look, it's been amazing having your contributions

1609
01:21:46,987 --> 01:21:49,147
Speaker 2: on the show at around about this time every Sunday.

1610
01:21:49,227 --> 01:21:51,267
Speaker 2: Look ahead to twenty twenty six. I feel us though

1611
01:21:51,307 --> 01:21:53,627
Speaker 2: in the middle of next year, you and I should

1612
01:21:53,627 --> 01:21:56,107
Speaker 2: maybe plan to be stateside. I'd love to be there

1613
01:21:56,107 --> 01:21:58,427
Speaker 2: with you for the FIFA World Cup. Of our respective

1614
01:21:58,787 --> 01:22:01,027
Speaker 2: organizations can make that happen, do you reckon? We could

1615
01:22:01,307 --> 01:22:02,947
Speaker 2: hang a bit in the US.

1616
01:22:02,907 --> 01:22:06,467
Speaker 12: Poney I've already made room for you in my accommodation

1617
01:22:06,587 --> 01:22:10,347
Speaker 12: and Vancouver we will be topping and tailing and that

1618
01:22:10,427 --> 01:22:11,787
Speaker 12: could be the name of our podcast.

1619
01:22:12,827 --> 01:22:15,667
Speaker 2: Why not. A Merry Christmas to you and yours, James,

1620
01:22:15,667 --> 01:22:17,147
Speaker 2: thanks for everything this year, mate.

1621
01:22:16,987 --> 01:22:19,107
Speaker 12: Cheers, thanks to you and thanks to all the listeners.

1622
01:22:19,187 --> 01:22:21,947
Speaker 12: Love of love being a part of the zeb Farnos,

1623
01:22:21,987 --> 01:22:22,547
Speaker 12: So cheers.

1624
01:22:22,627 --> 01:22:24,147
Speaker 5: Have a great Christmas everyone.

1625
01:22:24,187 --> 01:22:26,227
Speaker 2: Tom Man, James James mcconey a huge part of our

1626
01:22:26,267 --> 01:22:29,147
Speaker 2: sundays here on Weekend Sports seven Away from two, News

1627
01:22:29,187 --> 01:22:29,587
Speaker 2: Talks EDB.

1628
01:22:32,107 --> 01:22:34,387
Speaker 1: When it's down to the line, you made a call

1629
01:22:34,507 --> 01:22:39,707
Speaker 1: on eighty Weekend Sports with Jason Pine, News Talks B.

1630
01:22:40,427 --> 01:22:42,747
Speaker 2: Four to two. Already after the two o'clock news, Big

1631
01:22:42,787 --> 01:22:45,587
Speaker 2: football out for you, Bev Priestman leads us off. Wellington

1632
01:22:45,587 --> 01:22:49,147
Speaker 2: Phoenix women's coach after a record win for her side

1633
01:22:49,227 --> 01:22:53,587
Speaker 2: yesterday seven nil they beat Sydney FC. Incredible stuff at

1634
01:22:53,587 --> 01:22:55,427
Speaker 2: Potty to a Park. How does she reflect on that

1635
01:22:55,747 --> 01:22:58,587
Speaker 2: and did she see this coming? Then we'll look ahead

1636
01:22:58,627 --> 01:23:02,667
Speaker 2: to the Wellington Phoenix men's match this afternoon, just over

1637
01:23:02,707 --> 01:23:05,147
Speaker 2: an hour until they kick off against the Central Coast

1638
01:23:05,187 --> 01:23:07,707
Speaker 2: Mariners at Sky Stadium in the Capitol. Alex Rufe of

1639
01:23:07,747 --> 01:23:10,747
Speaker 2: the Captain with us and I Suprince, one of New

1640
01:23:10,787 --> 01:23:13,907
Speaker 2: Zealand's rising football stars. He signed for Auckland FC. He's

1641
01:23:13,947 --> 01:23:15,947
Speaker 2: on the show too, and we'll keep our eyes on

1642
01:23:15,987 --> 01:23:18,867
Speaker 2: the cricket in Mount Montganui and Adelaide.

1643
01:23:19,547 --> 01:23:22,427
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

1644
01:23:22,827 --> 01:23:26,147
Speaker 1: and after fields. It's all on Wi James Ford with

1645
01:23:26,427 --> 01:23:31,907
Speaker 1: Jason Vaide on your home of Sports Used talksb.

1646
01:23:32,107 --> 01:23:34,707
Speaker 2: Allo, Theniss Weekend Sport on News Talks ed B for

1647
01:23:34,747 --> 01:23:37,627
Speaker 2: the final time before Christmas two o seven. We're here

1648
01:23:37,667 --> 01:23:39,827
Speaker 2: till three. Then Tim Beverage will take over with the

1649
01:23:39,827 --> 01:23:41,827
Speaker 2: Weekend Collective. Put a football for you. This out quite

1650
01:23:41,827 --> 01:23:43,747
Speaker 2: a bit in fact, Beef Priestman standing by the chat

1651
01:23:43,787 --> 01:23:47,387
Speaker 2: to us, what about that from Wellington Phoenix yesterday in

1652
01:23:47,467 --> 01:23:51,107
Speaker 2: the Women's A League seven nil seven nil They beat

1653
01:23:51,147 --> 01:23:54,867
Speaker 2: Sidney FC. Biggest ever win by the Wellington Phoenix women.

1654
01:23:54,947 --> 01:23:57,587
Speaker 2: Biggest ever winning margin by either the men's or the

1655
01:23:57,627 --> 01:24:01,587
Speaker 2: women's teams at Wellington Phoenix. So how's Beef Priestman feeling today?

1656
01:24:01,627 --> 01:24:04,587
Speaker 2: Pretty good? I'd imagine she's along shortly Alex Rufer ahead

1657
01:24:04,627 --> 01:24:06,947
Speaker 2: of the Phoenix men's game against the Maria Is starting

1658
01:24:06,987 --> 01:24:09,947
Speaker 2: at three o'clock. Is a prince, one of our rising

1659
01:24:09,987 --> 01:24:12,627
Speaker 2: stars of football. He signed with Auckland FC. Have a

1660
01:24:12,707 --> 01:24:15,747
Speaker 2: chat term about that and we will keep eyes obviously

1661
01:24:15,787 --> 01:24:17,667
Speaker 2: on the cricket as well. I'm getting more and more

1662
01:24:18,107 --> 01:24:21,747
Speaker 2: invested in this Ashes Test. I have to say. England

1663
01:24:21,747 --> 01:24:24,347
Speaker 2: have just brought up there two hundred and fifty. They're

1664
01:24:24,387 --> 01:24:26,547
Speaker 2: back after a bit of a rain delay. They're chasing

1665
01:24:26,587 --> 01:24:29,427
Speaker 2: four hundred and thirty five, so what's that another one

1666
01:24:29,507 --> 01:24:33,427
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty five to win. Jax and Smith are

1667
01:24:33,427 --> 01:24:37,187
Speaker 2: looking good, both into the twenties. They're playing sensibly, which

1668
01:24:37,227 --> 01:24:40,547
Speaker 2: hasn't always been the case by England batters in this series,

1669
01:24:41,347 --> 01:24:46,707
Speaker 2: and starting to edge well, who knows towards the possibility

1670
01:24:46,987 --> 01:24:51,307
Speaker 2: conversation could they win this Test match? Could they really?

1671
01:24:51,387 --> 01:24:53,387
Speaker 2: The new ball is not far away. That might be

1672
01:24:53,587 --> 01:24:56,787
Speaker 2: if it's all point in this game. Meantime, at Bay Oval,

1673
01:24:57,147 --> 01:25:00,227
Speaker 2: New Zealand sixty three without loss in their second innings,

1674
01:25:00,307 --> 01:25:02,547
Speaker 2: leading by two hundred and eighteen against the West Indies,

1675
01:25:02,747 --> 01:25:04,747
Speaker 2: looking to set a totals to stay four of course

1676
01:25:04,747 --> 01:25:07,587
Speaker 2: of this Test match. Tom Lai them unbeaten on sixteen.

1677
01:25:07,627 --> 01:25:10,907
Speaker 2: Devin Conway, continuing his good recent form. He's forty three

1678
01:25:11,027 --> 01:25:14,027
Speaker 2: on out New Zealand sixty three without loss our leaders

1679
01:25:14,027 --> 01:25:16,547
Speaker 2: to say of two hundred and eighteen. So we'll keep

1680
01:25:16,547 --> 01:25:18,507
Speaker 2: eyes on that for you and even actually get you

1681
01:25:18,587 --> 01:25:21,307
Speaker 2: back to the mount before we close at three o'clock.

1682
01:25:21,387 --> 01:25:24,067
Speaker 2: But as we always do it around about this time,

1683
01:25:24,107 --> 01:25:27,307
Speaker 2: which is two eight, it is time to catch you

1684
01:25:27,387 --> 01:25:28,867
Speaker 2: up with some of the things you might have missed

1685
01:25:28,907 --> 01:25:31,627
Speaker 2: a bumper edition of In case you missed it, can

1686
01:25:31,667 --> 01:25:35,187
Speaker 2: I tell you? Starting on the track, Double Olympian Sam

1687
01:25:35,267 --> 01:25:39,427
Speaker 2: Tanner winning the feature five thousand meter event at the

1688
01:25:39,587 --> 01:25:43,387
Speaker 2: Night of Fives in Auckland last night, Here goes Sam Tana,

1689
01:25:43,507 --> 01:25:44,587
Speaker 2: two hundred minutes to go.

1690
01:25:45,147 --> 01:25:48,547
Speaker 11: Let's see that kick absolutely hits.

1691
01:25:48,307 --> 01:25:50,707
Speaker 14: Top care Here comes Sam Tana.

1692
01:25:51,067 --> 01:25:53,747
Speaker 15: He's your champion over the five k.

1693
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Speaker 14: Here at the kidnaight the five wow Sam Ruth right

1694
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Speaker 14: behind yeah.

1695
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Speaker 2: Teenage runner Sam Ruth setting two New Zealand age group

1696
01:26:03,307 --> 01:26:06,347
Speaker 2: records as he finished second running the five thousand meters

1697
01:26:06,387 --> 01:26:10,067
Speaker 2: for the first time competitively. He's broken the national under

1698
01:26:10,147 --> 01:26:15,187
Speaker 2: nineteen and under twenty records to Ali Pally two big

1699
01:26:15,267 --> 01:26:18,027
Speaker 2: upsets in the second round the World Dance Champs, with

1700
01:26:18,107 --> 01:26:21,667
Speaker 2: former winner and former world number one Michael Smith knocked

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01:26:21,667 --> 01:26:25,067
Speaker 2: out Tess for a massive when vanils on al.

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Speaker 14: There's much darts, joy, tastyopics and rot. Theforman studies for

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Speaker 14: helzo Ol never been beyond this round, So Michael Smith

1704
01:26:37,947 --> 01:26:41,067
Speaker 14: out and last year's semi finalist or one of them,

1705
01:26:41,187 --> 01:26:45,067
Speaker 14: Chris Dobie also out beaten by Andrew Gilding.

1706
01:26:46,187 --> 01:26:54,467
Speaker 2: Forty That is its buyer performance from Andrew Gilding. But

1707
01:26:54,747 --> 01:26:58,267
Speaker 2: no such problems for another of the beaten semi finalists

1708
01:26:58,387 --> 01:27:01,627
Speaker 2: last year. Four seat Stephen Bunting. He's got another one here.

1709
01:27:02,667 --> 01:27:06,027
Speaker 16: And Stevens shuts this time around.

1710
01:27:07,027 --> 01:27:09,547
Speaker 2: Look by it winds in straight seats.

1711
01:27:10,067 --> 01:27:13,987
Speaker 11: Steven Bunsing will be back in the post Christmas.

1712
01:27:13,587 --> 01:27:16,027
Speaker 2: Action and plenty of football to cover off, starting in

1713
01:27:16,067 --> 01:27:19,387
Speaker 2: the A League Women's Incredible scenes in potty Doer yesterday.

1714
01:27:19,547 --> 01:27:21,987
Speaker 11: Let's it back inadvertently good scale?

1715
01:27:22,867 --> 01:27:24,707
Speaker 2: Oh oh is it that over?

1716
01:27:24,827 --> 01:27:28,667
Speaker 14: Note? Wait a second, it has it is a seventh

1717
01:27:29,027 --> 01:27:30,027
Speaker 14: Can you believe it?

1718
01:27:30,307 --> 01:27:34,707
Speaker 11: The referee has given the goal and Wellington Phoenix.

1719
01:27:34,907 --> 01:27:37,907
Speaker 2: Have a seventh year. The Phoenix beating Sydney FC seven

1720
01:27:38,067 --> 01:27:41,107
Speaker 2: nil yesterday. More on that shortly when Nick's coach Bev

1721
01:27:41,227 --> 01:27:44,547
Speaker 2: Priestman joins us to the A League Men's Newcastle made

1722
01:27:44,587 --> 01:27:47,427
Speaker 2: it back to back wins with an impressive two nil

1723
01:27:47,547 --> 01:27:51,187
Speaker 2: home victory over Sydney FC. Turton Cello us to drive

1724
01:27:51,307 --> 01:27:52,067
Speaker 2: it through the medal.

1725
01:27:52,347 --> 01:27:56,947
Speaker 17: It stills back for Battalato Burton Cello ball.

1726
01:27:57,827 --> 01:28:00,547
Speaker 2: It's a beauty to nil the final score of the

1727
01:28:00,627 --> 01:28:03,347
Speaker 2: Jets Melbourne victory. Meantime left it late to win the

1728
01:28:03,387 --> 01:28:08,947
Speaker 2: Melbourne Derby over City. Grimaldi's struck out and he's done it.

1729
01:28:09,787 --> 01:28:12,587
Speaker 11: He's beaten Patrick Beach Truck twenty five.

1730
01:28:12,467 --> 01:28:14,867
Speaker 14: Meters out in the first minute of stuff.

1731
01:28:14,907 --> 01:28:17,307
Speaker 2: It's time one nil the final score of victory, and

1732
01:28:17,467 --> 01:28:20,027
Speaker 2: at Laigh United had also beat Perth Glory one nil

1733
01:28:20,147 --> 01:28:22,067
Speaker 2: away to move back into the top six.

1734
01:28:22,187 --> 01:28:24,747
Speaker 16: Fact to Goodwin extracted the ball nicely and now he's

1735
01:28:25,067 --> 01:28:26,067
Speaker 16: wouldn't to spread through.

1736
01:28:25,947 --> 01:28:30,627
Speaker 12: The left Goodwin, he's done it, pin point great.

1737
01:28:30,707 --> 01:28:32,027
Speaker 2: Goodwin fires in.

1738
01:28:32,387 --> 01:28:35,707
Speaker 16: He has looked sharp from the off tonight and it's taken.

1739
01:28:35,507 --> 01:28:37,547
Speaker 2: Him just twelve minutes to break through and to the

1740
01:28:37,547 --> 01:28:40,307
Speaker 2: Premier League Manchester. So he went briefly to the top

1741
01:28:40,387 --> 01:28:43,067
Speaker 2: of the table with a comfortable three nil win over

1742
01:28:43,187 --> 01:28:46,107
Speaker 2: West and no surprises. Who was on the score sheet.

1743
01:28:46,147 --> 01:28:49,507
Speaker 17: Who is to Savinia and he's got health here in

1744
01:28:49,587 --> 01:28:56,787
Speaker 17: a former Prico Lewis and Harland maybe instead it's just

1745
01:28:56,907 --> 01:28:59,067
Speaker 17: inevitable when it rolls his way.

1746
01:28:59,467 --> 01:29:00,387
Speaker 5: There's only ever.

1747
01:29:00,347 --> 01:29:04,667
Speaker 17: Really one results two for Harland's, three for Manchester City

1748
01:29:04,827 --> 01:29:05,307
Speaker 17: and three.

1749
01:29:05,267 --> 01:29:07,947
Speaker 2: Nil the final score. But Enal retook top spot with

1750
01:29:08,107 --> 01:29:11,907
Speaker 2: victory over Everton. The only goal coming via the penalty spot.

1751
01:29:12,067 --> 01:29:15,667
Speaker 16: Is Yochares and it's the butchet that eight for Arsenal.

1752
01:29:18,107 --> 01:29:21,227
Speaker 16: There's been a few question marks about the suite, but

1753
01:29:21,387 --> 01:29:22,867
Speaker 16: it was a confident penalty.

1754
01:29:23,027 --> 01:29:25,467
Speaker 2: Meantime, Liverpool moved into the top five with a two

1755
01:29:25,467 --> 01:29:27,387
Speaker 2: to one went over Tottenham, who entered the game with

1756
01:29:27,507 --> 01:29:30,107
Speaker 2: only nine men. Here's a conceit j for Liverpool and

1757
01:29:30,227 --> 01:29:35,027
Speaker 2: his charity. Two calls for the Rain exampions and this

1758
01:29:35,307 --> 01:29:37,947
Speaker 2: second half is Vicginty to take up for them now.

1759
01:29:38,267 --> 01:29:40,747
Speaker 2: And an All Whites defender was on the score sheet

1760
01:29:40,787 --> 01:29:44,667
Speaker 2: for his Championship side Sheffield United. There are six in

1761
01:29:44,827 --> 01:29:46,667
Speaker 2: red shirts to around the penalty spot.

1762
01:29:46,747 --> 01:29:51,787
Speaker 14: One of them is a rising Taylor Bindon who tells

1763
01:29:51,867 --> 01:29:55,147
Speaker 14: the header over the pack over the goalkeeper.

1764
01:29:56,067 --> 01:29:59,667
Speaker 1: The voice of Sport on your home of Sport weekends

1765
01:29:59,787 --> 01:30:01,747
Speaker 1: Ford with Jason Hine News.

1766
01:30:01,587 --> 01:30:04,547
Speaker 2: Talks in me yes, well, let's mention during in case mister,

1767
01:30:04,627 --> 01:30:08,147
Speaker 2: the Wellington Phoenix women have kick started their Ninja A

1768
01:30:08,307 --> 01:30:12,867
Speaker 2: League season in record breaking style. What about that?

1769
01:30:14,427 --> 01:30:19,067
Speaker 11: What about that performance from Wellington Phoenix. The final whistle

1770
01:30:19,107 --> 01:30:23,507
Speaker 11: has gone. The funds are absolutely loving it. Quite rightly too,

1771
01:30:24,307 --> 01:30:28,267
Speaker 11: because this is a win for the ages for the Phoenix.

1772
01:30:28,467 --> 01:30:33,827
Speaker 11: They've come away here with a seven nail win over.

1773
01:30:33,747 --> 01:30:38,107
Speaker 2: Sydney after scoring just three goals and they're opening five

1774
01:30:38,307 --> 01:30:41,347
Speaker 2: matches of the season and none in the last two games.

1775
01:30:41,387 --> 01:30:45,307
Speaker 2: The Phoenix have recorded the biggest win in the team's history,

1776
01:30:45,467 --> 01:30:50,267
Speaker 2: beating SYDNEYFC seven nil at Potidawa Park yesterday, the biggest

1777
01:30:50,347 --> 01:30:54,587
Speaker 2: winning margin in Phoenix club history men or women, and

1778
01:30:54,747 --> 01:30:58,307
Speaker 2: the heaviest defeat the five time champion SYDNEYFC women's side

1779
01:30:58,747 --> 01:31:02,947
Speaker 2: have ever suffered. Nepalie strykers A Beetra Bandari or Samba

1780
01:31:03,147 --> 01:31:06,027
Speaker 2: as she is widely known, and football firm Grace Jarlay

1781
01:31:06,107 --> 01:31:08,867
Speaker 2: both scored twice. Manaia Elliott was also on the score

1782
01:31:08,947 --> 01:31:12,667
Speaker 2: sheet along with two late own goals. Phoenix head coach

1783
01:31:12,787 --> 01:31:17,347
Speaker 2: Beev Priestman as well as BEV. Congratulations on an outstanding result.

1784
01:31:17,467 --> 01:31:20,507
Speaker 2: You see during the week that you thought someone at

1785
01:31:20,627 --> 01:31:23,067
Speaker 2: some stage was going to be on the end of

1786
01:31:23,107 --> 01:31:25,667
Speaker 2: a good hiding from your side, But could you have

1787
01:31:25,867 --> 01:31:29,907
Speaker 2: possibly imagined that it would be as emphatic as that.

1788
01:31:30,787 --> 01:31:33,387
Speaker 18: No, I mean, in reality, I think to score seven

1789
01:31:33,467 --> 01:31:37,307
Speaker 18: goals off the back of you know, we're arguably the

1790
01:31:37,387 --> 01:31:39,867
Speaker 18: team's confidence just in terms of goal scorering could have

1791
01:31:39,907 --> 01:31:42,547
Speaker 18: been law I think. Yeah, all credits of the players

1792
01:31:43,107 --> 01:31:46,107
Speaker 18: all week. You can imagine we've worked on putting the

1793
01:31:46,187 --> 01:31:48,267
Speaker 18: ball in the back of the net and yeah, I mean,

1794
01:31:48,347 --> 01:31:51,267
Speaker 18: what are we the center people offer for their Christmas break?

1795
01:31:51,627 --> 01:31:54,467
Speaker 2: Man? Elliott opened the scoring after just three minutes. How

1796
01:31:54,507 --> 01:31:57,067
Speaker 2: important do you think that early goal was, as you say,

1797
01:31:57,147 --> 01:31:59,107
Speaker 2: having worked on that during the week and not been

1798
01:31:59,147 --> 01:32:01,147
Speaker 2: able to find the net in the last two games.

1799
01:32:01,827 --> 01:32:03,987
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think it set us on our way race.

1800
01:32:04,067 --> 01:32:06,627
Speaker 18: I think, to be honest, in the last two games

1801
01:32:06,667 --> 01:32:08,707
Speaker 18: that we've played away, if we'd got the early goal,

1802
01:32:08,987 --> 01:32:11,347
Speaker 18: I'm sure those results would have been different based on,

1803
01:32:11,947 --> 01:32:14,627
Speaker 18: you know, the dominating performances. But I think, yeah, you're

1804
01:32:14,667 --> 01:32:17,507
Speaker 18: spot on there. I think the yearly goal got us underway,

1805
01:32:17,547 --> 01:32:19,747
Speaker 18: and then I think people just you know, got into

1806
01:32:20,587 --> 01:32:23,467
Speaker 18: the rhythm and a flow that you know, allowed us

1807
01:32:23,547 --> 01:32:24,427
Speaker 18: to go and do what we did.

1808
01:32:25,187 --> 01:32:28,147
Speaker 2: There seem to be a real intent and energy right

1809
01:32:28,187 --> 01:32:30,027
Speaker 2: from the start. Look, I know no team goes out

1810
01:32:30,067 --> 01:32:33,107
Speaker 2: there to start, you know, in laid back fashion, but

1811
01:32:33,347 --> 01:32:36,307
Speaker 2: was there a particular focus? Yes, did I to start

1812
01:32:36,747 --> 01:32:38,187
Speaker 2: fast with big energy?

1813
01:32:39,627 --> 01:32:42,187
Speaker 18: And you know, I would say that even the last

1814
01:32:42,227 --> 01:32:43,467
Speaker 18: time we were at Parua Park.

1815
01:32:43,547 --> 01:32:44,387
Speaker 2: I didn't talk about that.

1816
01:32:44,547 --> 01:32:46,867
Speaker 18: Right the last time we were here, give we didn't

1817
01:32:46,907 --> 01:32:48,747
Speaker 18: just give the fans a game, We gave them a moment.

1818
01:32:48,907 --> 01:32:51,747
Speaker 18: And I think a real intent of you know, the

1819
01:32:51,827 --> 01:32:55,547
Speaker 18: fans come every week yellow fever ments and so I

1820
01:32:55,627 --> 01:32:57,667
Speaker 18: talked about that a little bit in the you know,

1821
01:32:57,747 --> 01:33:01,027
Speaker 18: in the pre meeting. But I also think generally across

1822
01:33:01,107 --> 01:33:03,667
Speaker 18: the season, we've we've started well. It's actually been the

1823
01:33:03,747 --> 01:33:06,667
Speaker 18: last parts of games where maybe we've had light a

1824
01:33:06,747 --> 01:33:09,467
Speaker 18: bench and things. That's probably you know, teams have worked

1825
01:33:09,507 --> 01:33:10,867
Speaker 18: their way into the game. But I think what I

1826
01:33:10,987 --> 01:33:13,427
Speaker 18: was most pleased with we just kept going right and

1827
01:33:13,547 --> 01:33:16,267
Speaker 18: we didn't think our foot off the gas. We defended well,

1828
01:33:16,867 --> 01:33:19,347
Speaker 18: and yeah, just they're put in a big shift to

1829
01:33:19,427 --> 01:33:19,707
Speaker 18: be fair.

1830
01:33:19,827 --> 01:33:22,827
Speaker 2: So yeah, well halftime you're throwing up. So, look, things

1831
01:33:22,867 --> 01:33:25,747
Speaker 2: are going really well at halftime. How did you ensure

1832
01:33:26,387 --> 01:33:29,307
Speaker 2: your players didn't let up when they went out after halftime?

1833
01:33:30,267 --> 01:33:32,107
Speaker 18: To be honest, I got after them a little bit

1834
01:33:32,147 --> 01:33:34,427
Speaker 18: because I felt in the first half I were defending

1835
01:33:34,707 --> 01:33:36,827
Speaker 18: habits weren't as strong as they needed to be. And

1836
01:33:36,947 --> 01:33:40,867
Speaker 18: what I do know about people and humans, and you know,

1837
01:33:41,187 --> 01:33:43,267
Speaker 18: when you offering neil, it's very easy to take your

1838
01:33:43,307 --> 01:33:46,387
Speaker 18: foot off the gas, and so I made sure that,

1839
01:33:46,627 --> 01:33:49,027
Speaker 18: you know, I demanded the same standards that demand every

1840
01:33:49,027 --> 01:33:50,307
Speaker 18: week from them, and I.

1841
01:33:50,347 --> 01:33:51,507
Speaker 2: Knew more goals would come.

1842
01:33:51,547 --> 01:33:53,707
Speaker 18: I had a feeling, but I want to make sure

1843
01:33:53,787 --> 01:33:55,587
Speaker 18: we kept the clean sheet, and we kept all the

1844
01:33:55,627 --> 01:33:58,907
Speaker 18: great work that they have done, and you know, kept going.

1845
01:33:59,027 --> 01:34:00,827
Speaker 18: And so I think we've just got to set real

1846
01:34:00,947 --> 01:34:03,707
Speaker 18: high standards for this group. And they they rose to

1847
01:34:03,787 --> 01:34:04,867
Speaker 18: the occasion, which is great.

1848
01:34:05,107 --> 01:34:06,547
Speaker 2: And even at the end of the game, they ten

1849
01:34:06,587 --> 01:34:09,347
Speaker 2: minutes to go, it's five nil, the points are safe.

1850
01:34:09,947 --> 01:34:13,107
Speaker 2: How pleasing was it to watch your side continue to

1851
01:34:13,227 --> 01:34:16,547
Speaker 2: push forward even at five nil ahead. Yeah?

1852
01:34:16,627 --> 01:34:18,947
Speaker 18: Absolutely, I think clean sheet right, So I think that

1853
01:34:19,627 --> 01:34:22,067
Speaker 18: you might heard you from the sidelines like demanding the

1854
01:34:22,107 --> 01:34:25,387
Speaker 18: clean sheets, I think, yeah, but I've seen these games

1855
01:34:25,427 --> 01:34:27,467
Speaker 18: where maybe you conceived one or two at the end

1856
01:34:27,547 --> 01:34:30,987
Speaker 18: and it's so frustrating. But yeah, I think it was

1857
01:34:31,067 --> 01:34:33,507
Speaker 18: just a real intent. I think we wanted to send

1858
01:34:33,547 --> 01:34:35,267
Speaker 18: a message. You know, there's a lot of talk about

1859
01:34:35,307 --> 01:34:37,827
Speaker 18: this team, you know, can't score and all the rest

1860
01:34:37,867 --> 01:34:39,707
Speaker 18: of it. I knew it was coming in terms of,

1861
01:34:40,187 --> 01:34:43,067
Speaker 18: you know, the performances and data doesn't lie, but also

1862
01:34:43,267 --> 01:34:45,427
Speaker 18: the data in the box doesn't lie, and so we

1863
01:34:45,507 --> 01:34:47,787
Speaker 18: had to put some more attention on that. And yeah,

1864
01:34:47,947 --> 01:34:48,387
Speaker 18: they did it.

1865
01:34:48,947 --> 01:34:53,467
Speaker 2: So Samba so bit for Bandara or Nipalese import. She

1866
01:34:53,587 --> 01:34:57,667
Speaker 2: came with a big reputation. She's been hugely supported everywhere

1867
01:34:57,707 --> 01:35:00,587
Speaker 2: she's gone, but no goals in her first three appearances.

1868
01:35:00,627 --> 01:35:01,947
Speaker 2: How much of a white do you think that'll be

1869
01:35:01,987 --> 01:35:04,187
Speaker 2: off her shoulders that she is now off the mark

1870
01:35:04,267 --> 01:35:06,707
Speaker 2: and with two yesterday, Yeah, and.

1871
01:35:06,707 --> 01:35:08,707
Speaker 18: I think probably more than she's let on. Right, But

1872
01:35:08,787 --> 01:35:11,267
Speaker 18: I think every striker wants to score, the one being

1873
01:35:11,307 --> 01:35:13,747
Speaker 18: known for goal scoring. But I think the pleasant thing

1874
01:35:13,827 --> 01:35:15,747
Speaker 18: is with somebody you see what else she brings to

1875
01:35:15,867 --> 01:35:18,467
Speaker 18: the team. She's not just a goalscorer. She is a

1876
01:35:18,507 --> 01:35:20,947
Speaker 18: bit of a handful, right, and in many ways if

1877
01:35:20,987 --> 01:35:23,267
Speaker 18: people are occupied with her with freeze others up to

1878
01:35:23,787 --> 01:35:26,347
Speaker 18: But yeah, I've got no doubt about her. Right every

1879
01:35:26,387 --> 01:35:29,267
Speaker 18: strike that wants to score goals and a new one

1880
01:35:29,347 --> 01:35:31,387
Speaker 18: she got one. She'll be underway now that's her.

1881
01:35:32,307 --> 01:35:34,707
Speaker 2: You mentioned it a little bit before, but I just

1882
01:35:34,747 --> 01:35:37,547
Speaker 2: want to get a bit more insight into it. The

1883
01:35:37,707 --> 01:35:40,507
Speaker 2: nil is as impressive probably as the seven. You know,

1884
01:35:40,587 --> 01:35:43,107
Speaker 2: the clean sheet and defense has been a hallmark of

1885
01:35:43,147 --> 01:35:45,467
Speaker 2: this side. Just the four goals considered in your first

1886
01:35:45,907 --> 01:35:48,587
Speaker 2: six games, and really other teams have had very few

1887
01:35:48,627 --> 01:35:52,187
Speaker 2: scoring opportunities. How much do you pride yourself on that base,

1888
01:35:52,267 --> 01:35:55,587
Speaker 2: that defensive base, which yesterday was the springboard for you know,

1889
01:35:55,667 --> 01:35:56,707
Speaker 2: a lot of goals at the other end.

1890
01:35:57,827 --> 01:36:00,027
Speaker 18: Yeah, And I think when I took over with the team,

1891
01:36:00,267 --> 01:36:02,787
Speaker 18: I talked about anybody that wants to beat this team

1892
01:36:02,907 --> 01:36:05,587
Speaker 18: has to have a really, really good game and performance

1893
01:36:05,667 --> 01:36:08,067
Speaker 18: to do that. Now you'd argue maybe in the last

1894
01:36:08,067 --> 01:36:11,627
Speaker 18: two games necessarily it hasn't been that for the opposition,

1895
01:36:11,707 --> 01:36:13,427
Speaker 18: but they have scored in the football in the back

1896
01:36:13,507 --> 01:36:16,307
Speaker 18: of the neck. But I do think, like anybody that

1897
01:36:16,347 --> 01:36:19,347
Speaker 18: puts on a Phoenix shirt, and I'm going to demand

1898
01:36:19,387 --> 01:36:21,747
Speaker 18: that they work hard, right, That's that's the bare minimum.

1899
01:36:22,067 --> 01:36:24,067
Speaker 18: And I think what you're seeing is a collective effort

1900
01:36:24,387 --> 01:36:26,467
Speaker 18: from a group of players who want to work hard.

1901
01:36:26,547 --> 01:36:28,707
Speaker 18: They believe in the way that we're setting up, and

1902
01:36:28,827 --> 01:36:31,147
Speaker 18: they're all sticking to it and facing in the right direction.

1903
01:36:31,347 --> 01:36:35,227
Speaker 18: So I think it's the collective effort and just demanding,

1904
01:36:35,307 --> 01:36:38,347
Speaker 18: you know, like every recovery runs a sprint, and yeah,

1905
01:36:38,387 --> 01:36:40,587
Speaker 18: I mean you look at the captain, right CG boss.

1906
01:36:40,667 --> 01:36:42,627
Speaker 18: I mean, that's that's where it starts. And I think

1907
01:36:42,987 --> 01:36:44,467
Speaker 18: the team really prides themselves on that.

1908
01:36:44,867 --> 01:36:46,947
Speaker 2: I'd imagine that I was going to tain that one

1909
01:36:47,067 --> 01:36:49,027
Speaker 2: seven nil, I'd be up this morning, I'd beginning my

1910
01:36:49,107 --> 01:36:52,787
Speaker 2: team gear on, I'd be I'd be swaggering around and rightly, so,

1911
01:36:52,947 --> 01:36:54,947
Speaker 2: you have to enjoy these moments. But how do you

1912
01:36:55,107 --> 01:36:58,507
Speaker 2: keep your side grounded after such a messive win?

1913
01:36:59,667 --> 01:37:01,347
Speaker 18: Yeah, and I think that's it, right. I think what

1914
01:37:01,427 --> 01:37:03,827
Speaker 18: I've learned in this game, never too high, never too low.

1915
01:37:04,227 --> 01:37:05,907
Speaker 18: But at the same time, what I've also learned is

1916
01:37:05,987 --> 01:37:09,347
Speaker 18: you've got to enjoy enjoy these moments because often they

1917
01:37:09,387 --> 01:37:11,587
Speaker 18: can be few and far between as well. So I

1918
01:37:11,667 --> 01:37:13,947
Speaker 18: think for us, you know, in the review tomorrow. I'll

1919
01:37:13,987 --> 01:37:15,827
Speaker 18: do exactly the same as I do every week and

1920
01:37:15,947 --> 01:37:18,667
Speaker 18: not get too carried away, but do let them, you know,

1921
01:37:18,867 --> 01:37:21,467
Speaker 18: enjoy Christmas, because I do think it's been a They've

1922
01:37:21,467 --> 01:37:23,667
Speaker 18: put a real shift in. We've had some stepbacks along

1923
01:37:23,707 --> 01:37:25,627
Speaker 18: the way and then be fresh and ready to go.

1924
01:37:25,747 --> 01:37:27,587
Speaker 18: And I think for us now we have to go

1925
01:37:27,667 --> 01:37:29,507
Speaker 18: and back this up right. It can't be a one

1926
01:37:29,587 --> 01:37:34,107
Speaker 18: off performance, not necessarily performance, but results. And now we've

1927
01:37:34,107 --> 01:37:36,507
Speaker 18: got to go away and we've got to get rewarded

1928
01:37:36,547 --> 01:37:37,987
Speaker 18: for the hard work we put in when we were

1929
01:37:38,067 --> 01:37:41,347
Speaker 18: lost away and hopefully you know, I've seen some of

1930
01:37:41,387 --> 01:37:43,787
Speaker 18: the stats on the away record, but I think I

1931
01:37:43,907 --> 01:37:46,587
Speaker 18: do have faith that the performances when we were away

1932
01:37:46,627 --> 01:37:48,787
Speaker 18: were good enough to go and win. And so yeah,

1933
01:37:48,987 --> 01:37:50,067
Speaker 18: it's onto the next one now.

1934
01:37:50,227 --> 01:37:52,187
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to ask you about the the

1935
01:37:52,307 --> 01:37:54,787
Speaker 2: away games coming up. You're a white Western Sydney and

1936
01:37:54,867 --> 01:37:58,667
Speaker 2: then Brisbane just after New Year. As you say, away points,

1937
01:37:58,707 --> 01:38:00,667
Speaker 2: little one ones have been hard to come by. Are

1938
01:38:00,707 --> 01:38:02,507
Speaker 2: you any closer to cracking this or do you think

1939
01:38:02,507 --> 01:38:05,307
Speaker 2: it is just that you will eventually be rewarded for

1940
01:38:05,467 --> 01:38:06,667
Speaker 2: your performances.

1941
01:38:06,227 --> 01:38:06,747
Speaker 5: On the road.

1942
01:38:07,787 --> 01:38:10,467
Speaker 18: Yeah, listen, i'd be concerned, Piney, if you know, I

1943
01:38:10,547 --> 01:38:12,627
Speaker 18: didn't think we started slow. You know, I think in

1944
01:38:12,707 --> 01:38:15,867
Speaker 18: the Melbourne City game we were on top output, you know,

1945
01:38:15,947 --> 01:38:18,107
Speaker 18: a number of shots and number of touches in the

1946
01:38:18,147 --> 01:38:21,267
Speaker 18: box to their one shot. I think the away performances

1947
01:38:21,347 --> 01:38:24,627
Speaker 18: have been winning performances that just for some reason hasn't.

1948
01:38:24,747 --> 01:38:25,347
Speaker 13: Fallen with us.

1949
01:38:25,387 --> 01:38:27,947
Speaker 18: And to be honest, we've switched off in a critical moment,

1950
01:38:27,987 --> 01:38:30,667
Speaker 18: particularly in that City game. So for me, I think

1951
01:38:30,707 --> 01:38:32,947
Speaker 18: we've done a lot of little things that I think

1952
01:38:33,027 --> 01:38:34,787
Speaker 18: can go a long way on away trips and all

1953
01:38:34,827 --> 01:38:37,787
Speaker 18: the little details that matter, And there was nothing in

1954
01:38:37,907 --> 01:38:40,427
Speaker 18: them away trips to me that felt, you know what,

1955
01:38:40,627 --> 01:38:44,507
Speaker 18: we started sluggish, and you know, we felt overly like

1956
01:38:44,627 --> 01:38:46,787
Speaker 18: it was too much about away performance. And so that

1957
01:38:46,907 --> 01:38:49,907
Speaker 18: gives me a lot of I guess positives moving forward

1958
01:38:49,947 --> 01:38:52,227
Speaker 18: and especially building off the back of this big win.

1959
01:38:52,427 --> 01:38:54,387
Speaker 2: All right, So at ten die break now before Western

1960
01:38:54,467 --> 01:38:57,387
Speaker 2: Sydney on the thirtieth. So what does Christmas look like

1961
01:38:57,467 --> 01:38:57,627
Speaker 2: for you?

1962
01:38:57,787 --> 01:38:57,947
Speaker 16: Ken?

1963
01:38:57,987 --> 01:39:01,107
Speaker 18: We Christmas for you, Yes, k we Christmas down in

1964
01:39:01,187 --> 01:39:03,467
Speaker 18: christ Church with the players and the staff. Have got

1965
01:39:03,507 --> 01:39:06,667
Speaker 18: a three day break. We've got some christ of the

1966
01:39:07,187 --> 01:39:09,547
Speaker 18: Christmas singing tomorrow with the groups and we'll see how

1967
01:39:10,027 --> 01:39:14,067
Speaker 18: see other different groups perform. Yeah, there's there's a few

1968
01:39:14,107 --> 01:39:16,307
Speaker 18: players I can see that they're really looking forward to that.

1969
01:39:17,227 --> 01:39:21,547
Speaker 2: Well, a wonderful one yesterday. Just it felt like a

1970
01:39:21,627 --> 01:39:24,507
Speaker 2: real watershed moment for this team. BF, congratulations and overseeing

1971
01:39:24,867 --> 01:39:27,107
Speaker 2: a record winning the club's history. May there be many

1972
01:39:27,147 --> 01:39:28,907
Speaker 2: more goals and many more ones like that. Thanks for

1973
01:39:28,987 --> 01:39:32,267
Speaker 2: taking the time for a chat. No, thank you, BF.

1974
01:39:32,307 --> 01:39:35,587
Speaker 2: Bev priestsman there, coach of the Wellington Phoenix women who

1975
01:39:36,267 --> 01:39:39,547
Speaker 2: put seven past Sydney FC yesterday. It was quite incredible

1976
01:39:39,587 --> 01:39:42,987
Speaker 2: and just the most impressive part, as I said to Bev,

1977
01:39:43,147 --> 01:39:45,547
Speaker 2: was that when the points were safe at four nil,

1978
01:39:45,627 --> 01:39:48,187
Speaker 2: at five nil, they kept going we want more, we

1979
01:39:48,267 --> 01:39:51,347
Speaker 2: want more, and they protected their own end as well,

1980
01:39:51,427 --> 01:39:53,747
Speaker 2: because you know, as Pev said it, you know if

1981
01:39:53,787 --> 01:39:56,147
Speaker 2: you win seven nil or seven one, seven two, the

1982
01:39:56,187 --> 01:39:58,947
Speaker 2: points are still yours, but there's just that little nagging,

1983
01:39:59,507 --> 01:40:02,347
Speaker 2: you know, frustration that you haven't been able to keep

1984
01:40:02,387 --> 01:40:05,507
Speaker 2: a clean shit at the other end. Seven nil utterly comprehensive.

1985
01:40:05,827 --> 01:40:09,147
Speaker 2: So the me can they emulate that? I mean, they'll

1986
01:40:09,187 --> 01:40:11,987
Speaker 2: be happy with a win. I would say just two

1987
01:40:12,627 --> 01:40:15,067
Speaker 2: in their first eight games of the season in around

1988
01:40:16,147 --> 01:40:18,787
Speaker 2: thirty five minutes from now, they'll take on the Central

1989
01:40:18,827 --> 01:40:21,547
Speaker 2: Coast Marins at Sky Stadium. How are they feeling? I

1990
01:40:21,587 --> 01:40:24,027
Speaker 2: spoke with their captain Alex Rufer earlier this week. We'll

1991
01:40:24,067 --> 01:40:26,587
Speaker 2: hear from him when we come back. Just checking on

1992
01:40:26,627 --> 01:40:29,307
Speaker 2: the cricket, ninety three without loss. New Zealand. They lead

1993
01:40:29,347 --> 01:40:31,707
Speaker 2: by two hundred and forty eight. Now Devin Conways brought

1994
01:40:31,787 --> 01:40:34,627
Speaker 2: up as fifty. He is fifty eight and unbeaten. Lathan

1995
01:40:34,667 --> 01:40:37,387
Speaker 2: there on twenty seven. So New Zealand building this lead.

1996
01:40:37,387 --> 01:40:39,747
Speaker 2: It's just a matter of how much they'll need, how

1997
01:40:39,827 --> 01:40:43,267
Speaker 2: many they'll want before they pull out. And in the Ashes,

1998
01:40:44,307 --> 01:40:48,027
Speaker 2: England continue these two Jamie Smith and Will Jacks two

1999
01:40:48,227 --> 01:40:52,227
Speaker 2: seventy six for six now two seventy six for six

2000
01:40:52,547 --> 01:40:57,827
Speaker 2: as they mount what is a really unlikely unlikely case

2001
01:40:57,907 --> 01:41:01,867
Speaker 2: for victory. Another one hundred and fifty nine needed with

2002
01:41:02,067 --> 01:41:04,907
Speaker 2: four second innings wickets in hand. Australia just need the

2003
01:41:04,947 --> 01:41:08,307
Speaker 2: four wickets to retain the Ashes. We'll keep eyes on that.

2004
01:41:08,547 --> 01:41:09,587
Speaker 2: Two twenty four Back in a.

2005
01:41:09,587 --> 01:41:15,027
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2006
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2007
01:41:15,987 --> 01:41:17,187
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2008
01:41:17,147 --> 01:41:20,547
Speaker 2: Zealand's first trusted home builder News talk to Bailey two

2009
01:41:20,747 --> 01:41:23,507
Speaker 2: twenty seven. Big Game of A League Men's football at

2010
01:41:23,587 --> 01:41:26,507
Speaker 2: Sky Stadium this afternoon. The Wellington Phoenix, who have slipped

2011
01:41:26,547 --> 01:41:29,227
Speaker 2: to the bottom of the A League Ladder with just

2012
01:41:29,347 --> 01:41:33,307
Speaker 2: two wins in eight games, up against second bottom Central Coast,

2013
01:41:33,427 --> 01:41:36,307
Speaker 2: but happily the tight nature of the table means a

2014
01:41:36,427 --> 01:41:40,667
Speaker 2: win could jump the Phoenix up from twelfth to seventh.

2015
01:41:41,107 --> 01:41:43,627
Speaker 2: I spoke with Phoenix captain Alex Ruffer during the week

2016
01:41:43,707 --> 01:41:45,667
Speaker 2: and asked how the feeling is in the playing squad

2017
01:41:46,027 --> 01:41:49,307
Speaker 2: after a disappointing loss to Newcastle a week ago and

2018
01:41:49,467 --> 01:41:51,427
Speaker 2: a fairly challenging start to the season.

2019
01:41:52,507 --> 01:41:53,867
Speaker 19: Well, there's disappointment for sure.

2020
01:41:56,027 --> 01:41:57,147
Speaker 4: We know where we're at.

2021
01:41:57,307 --> 01:41:59,667
Speaker 19: Obviously in the season it's been our games and we've

2022
01:41:59,747 --> 01:42:02,987
Speaker 19: been up and down. I think as a group we've

2023
01:42:03,027 --> 01:42:07,627
Speaker 19: recognized some of the mistakes that we've you know, continued

2024
01:42:07,667 --> 01:42:11,627
Speaker 19: to make and you know it's frustrating. But the good

2025
01:42:11,667 --> 01:42:14,027
Speaker 19: thing is is that every week we keep working on

2026
01:42:14,147 --> 01:42:16,467
Speaker 19: it and I'm sure we'll tend it around.

2027
01:42:16,907 --> 01:42:19,547
Speaker 2: Other mistakes some easily fixable.

2028
01:42:21,227 --> 01:42:24,547
Speaker 19: Well you'd like to think so, but look, it's put

2029
01:42:24,587 --> 01:42:25,947
Speaker 19: it this way, it's not from a lack of trying

2030
01:42:26,187 --> 01:42:30,827
Speaker 19: and effort and the right intent. I think the biggest

2031
01:42:30,867 --> 01:42:33,987
Speaker 19: mistakes that we're making are costing us goals and costing

2032
01:42:34,067 --> 01:42:39,227
Speaker 19: us points, which you know hurts you a lot. And look,

2033
01:42:39,267 --> 01:42:43,107
Speaker 19: it's not doom and gloom. Like I said that, the

2034
01:42:43,147 --> 01:42:46,107
Speaker 19: group is very frustrated and very disappointed with some of

2035
01:42:46,147 --> 01:42:48,267
Speaker 19: the results, but we know and we believe will turn

2036
01:42:48,267 --> 01:42:50,787
Speaker 19: it around. So we have to focus now game by game,

2037
01:42:50,907 --> 01:42:53,547
Speaker 19: week by week, and make sure that we do everything

2038
01:42:53,587 --> 01:42:55,387
Speaker 19: we can during the training week to prepare us for

2039
01:42:55,467 --> 01:42:56,227
Speaker 19: the game in the weekend.

2040
01:42:56,627 --> 01:42:58,827
Speaker 2: A lot of guys in this team, particularly the younger guys,

2041
01:42:58,867 --> 01:43:03,787
Speaker 2: they haven't you know, necessarily experienced, you know, setbacks like

2042
01:43:03,867 --> 01:43:05,667
Speaker 2: this in their career. They've always come up and been

2043
01:43:05,747 --> 01:43:07,947
Speaker 2: best player in the team and top teams that are

2044
01:43:07,947 --> 01:43:10,307
Speaker 2: winning all the time. Have you had to in any

2045
01:43:10,347 --> 01:43:12,987
Speaker 2: way get around them and make sure that their disappointment

2046
01:43:13,067 --> 01:43:15,347
Speaker 2: doesn't go too far.

2047
01:43:16,827 --> 01:43:19,707
Speaker 19: Yeah, I think that's part of being you know, the

2048
01:43:19,827 --> 01:43:23,347
Speaker 19: leader and the captain. There's a lot of other experience

2049
01:43:23,387 --> 01:43:25,547
Speaker 19: players in our group too that help with that, so,

2050
01:43:27,547 --> 01:43:29,987
Speaker 19: you know, I also do think disappointment is a good

2051
01:43:30,027 --> 01:43:33,387
Speaker 19: thing and frustration is a good thing because you know,

2052
01:43:33,507 --> 01:43:36,107
Speaker 19: we want to win and we haven't been doing that,

2053
01:43:36,307 --> 01:43:40,347
Speaker 19: especially at home recently, so we need to take responsibility

2054
01:43:40,387 --> 01:43:45,107
Speaker 19: and turn it around and make changes. And like I said,

2055
01:43:45,147 --> 01:43:47,747
Speaker 19: the boys are focused on that and focused on improving,

2056
01:43:47,867 --> 01:43:51,067
Speaker 19: and you know, so we're doing everything we can to

2057
01:43:51,147 --> 01:43:52,427
Speaker 19: make sure that we do do that.

2058
01:43:53,067 --> 01:43:57,147
Speaker 2: The defensive setup. Is there a general confidence in the

2059
01:43:57,227 --> 01:43:59,947
Speaker 2: system itself, even though as you say, it has cost

2060
01:43:59,987 --> 01:44:01,267
Speaker 2: your goals on occasion.

2061
01:44:01,747 --> 01:44:05,547
Speaker 19: Of course, I think. Look, it's when you change to

2062
01:44:05,707 --> 01:44:07,787
Speaker 19: any system, there's always a little bit of time that

2063
01:44:07,827 --> 01:44:10,787
Speaker 19: it takes to adapt, you know, and this is no different.

2064
01:44:11,227 --> 01:44:13,667
Speaker 19: I think the difference is is that when people watch

2065
01:44:13,747 --> 01:44:15,547
Speaker 19: this is because no one in this part of the

2066
01:44:15,587 --> 01:44:19,827
Speaker 19: world or in this league does it. I do believe

2067
01:44:19,867 --> 01:44:24,267
Speaker 19: that our mistakes that we're making aren't due to the

2068
01:44:24,387 --> 01:44:27,107
Speaker 19: high line or to how we play. I think it's

2069
01:44:27,227 --> 01:44:31,187
Speaker 19: just comes down to concentration and focus little things that

2070
01:44:31,267 --> 01:44:34,707
Speaker 19: we can change as players on the field that are

2071
01:44:34,747 --> 01:44:37,427
Speaker 19: making the decisions that will you know, in turn help us.

2072
01:44:38,907 --> 01:44:41,347
Speaker 19: The belief with how and what we're doing is there

2073
01:44:41,387 --> 01:44:44,627
Speaker 19: for sure, because I also think it's how we've dominated

2074
01:44:44,667 --> 01:44:47,067
Speaker 19: games with the ball, So there's that trade off I

2075
01:44:47,147 --> 01:44:49,067
Speaker 19: think now for us, it's making sure that we do

2076
01:44:49,347 --> 01:44:51,587
Speaker 19: eliminate the mistakes in the areas that we do make

2077
01:44:52,347 --> 01:44:54,547
Speaker 19: and then putting in a nine minute performance.

2078
01:44:55,067 --> 01:44:57,587
Speaker 2: How challenging is it also to have players swapping in

2079
01:44:57,587 --> 01:45:02,347
Speaker 2: a out those positions through suspension and injury unavailability. I

2080
01:45:02,427 --> 01:45:06,027
Speaker 2: guess ideally moving parts should all be interchangeable, but it's tough,

2081
01:45:06,467 --> 01:45:09,267
Speaker 2: especially for a young player like Jaden Smith on starting debut.

2082
01:45:09,987 --> 01:45:13,347
Speaker 19: Look, it is always difficult. And look, every year you're

2083
01:45:13,387 --> 01:45:19,627
Speaker 19: going to have injury, suspensions, sickness, you know whatever. I

2084
01:45:19,707 --> 01:45:22,027
Speaker 19: think the most important thing is that when players do

2085
01:45:22,107 --> 01:45:25,667
Speaker 19: give their opportunity, they perform. And that's why you train.

2086
01:45:25,787 --> 01:45:28,507
Speaker 19: You train to make sure you're ready. And you know,

2087
01:45:29,027 --> 01:45:32,507
Speaker 19: talking about Jamee Smith, I thought he had a solid game. Now,

2088
01:45:32,547 --> 01:45:34,587
Speaker 19: he's a young kid, it was starting debuted, and yes,

2089
01:45:34,667 --> 01:45:38,307
Speaker 19: it's never easy, but I thought he played well, so

2090
01:45:38,667 --> 01:45:41,027
Speaker 19: I was happy for him. And you know, now it's

2091
01:45:41,027 --> 01:45:43,027
Speaker 19: about making sure we keep his feet on the ground

2092
01:45:43,107 --> 01:45:46,547
Speaker 19: and make sure that he keeps, you know, keeps working

2093
01:45:46,587 --> 01:45:48,227
Speaker 19: hard and keeps improving.

2094
01:45:48,267 --> 01:45:51,067
Speaker 2: The Mariners on Sunday, does this feel a little bit

2095
01:45:51,187 --> 01:45:54,347
Speaker 2: like going into the Adelaide game, A game you guys played.

2096
01:45:54,387 --> 01:45:56,787
Speaker 2: I think you're probably best performing to the season going

2097
01:45:56,867 --> 01:45:59,587
Speaker 2: in off the back of probably, you know, a performance

2098
01:45:59,627 --> 01:46:02,147
Speaker 2: you wouldn't have been that proud of. Does it feel

2099
01:46:02,227 --> 01:46:04,667
Speaker 2: like a similar scenario on Sunday.

2100
01:46:06,507 --> 01:46:09,827
Speaker 19: Yeah, Look, I think for us again, we just need

2101
01:46:09,867 --> 01:46:14,507
Speaker 19: to focus on a good performance, a good training week.

2102
01:46:16,187 --> 01:46:17,267
Speaker 5: We can't look behind us.

2103
01:46:17,427 --> 01:46:20,787
Speaker 19: I think we've been a little bit inconsistent, which we

2104
01:46:20,947 --> 01:46:24,507
Speaker 19: know and we've addressed. So for us now, we need

2105
01:46:24,587 --> 01:46:26,747
Speaker 19: to just take it game by game like I said earlier,

2106
01:46:26,867 --> 01:46:29,467
Speaker 19: and make sure that our mentality is to win and

2107
01:46:31,627 --> 01:46:34,027
Speaker 19: I'm confident we can do that. We need to be aggressive,

2108
01:46:34,187 --> 01:46:36,907
Speaker 19: especially at home, and I'm sure the game will take

2109
01:46:36,907 --> 01:46:37,467
Speaker 19: care of itself.

2110
01:46:38,067 --> 01:46:39,547
Speaker 2: Paula Ritchro haven't seen him the season?

2111
01:46:39,587 --> 01:46:40,027
Speaker 5: Is is he back?

2112
01:46:40,107 --> 01:46:40,307
Speaker 18: Kind of?

2113
01:46:40,627 --> 01:46:40,787
Speaker 15: You know?

2114
01:46:41,067 --> 01:46:43,587
Speaker 2: Close to? He's training with the team, isn't he? Is he?

2115
01:46:44,027 --> 01:46:45,627
Speaker 2: I know you don't pick the team, but is he available?

2116
01:46:45,627 --> 01:46:48,347
Speaker 2: Do you think for selection on Sunday? Look, he's training.

2117
01:46:48,707 --> 01:46:50,467
Speaker 19: Like you said, I don't obviously picked the players and

2118
01:46:50,507 --> 01:46:52,827
Speaker 19: pick the team, but look, he's training, he's training well,

2119
01:46:52,907 --> 01:46:55,747
Speaker 19: and you know it's been a tough time for him. Obviously,

2120
01:46:55,827 --> 01:46:59,107
Speaker 19: injuries is never easy. But he's an experienced player and

2121
01:46:59,547 --> 01:47:01,107
Speaker 19: he adds a lot of quality to our team. So

2122
01:47:01,187 --> 01:47:02,787
Speaker 19: it's really good to have him back around the team

2123
01:47:02,867 --> 01:47:05,387
Speaker 19: and involved in training. So hopefully he gets some minutes

2124
01:47:05,427 --> 01:47:06,187
Speaker 19: this weekend, all.

2125
01:47:06,147 --> 01:47:09,267
Speaker 2: Right, And special moment for you walking out on Saturday

2126
01:47:09,387 --> 01:47:11,427
Speaker 2: for the first time as a dad. I guess in

2127
01:47:11,507 --> 01:47:15,747
Speaker 2: that scenario, how was that? Oh?

2128
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Speaker 19: Look pretty special. Obviously had some special times at you

2129
01:47:21,507 --> 01:47:24,507
Speaker 19: here in Wellington and as a player, but look as

2130
01:47:24,507 --> 01:47:26,947
Speaker 19: a father now and walking out with my daughter was

2131
01:47:28,187 --> 01:47:28,827
Speaker 19: definitely up there.

2132
01:47:29,027 --> 01:47:30,227
Speaker 5: So it was a good feeling.

2133
01:47:30,347 --> 01:47:32,867
Speaker 2: That is Alex Ruther, captain of the Wellington Phoenix. Yeah,

2134
01:47:33,267 --> 01:47:37,027
Speaker 2: he carried his young baby daughter Harper out as part

2135
01:47:37,067 --> 01:47:42,027
Speaker 2: of the pre match last Sunday. Whether that happens again today,

2136
01:47:42,067 --> 01:47:44,027
Speaker 2: won't wait and see. It's not that far away, twenty

2137
01:47:44,107 --> 01:47:47,387
Speaker 2: seven minutes away from three when kickoff will take place

2138
01:47:47,427 --> 01:47:49,667
Speaker 2: at Sky Stadium. Just feels like a big game for

2139
01:47:49,747 --> 01:47:51,347
Speaker 2: the Phoenix, just feels like one. They just got to

2140
01:47:51,387 --> 01:47:53,547
Speaker 2: find a way to win, Just have to win. It

2141
01:47:53,947 --> 01:47:56,147
Speaker 2: doesn't matter, how, doesn't matter if it's not seven nill

2142
01:47:56,507 --> 01:47:59,187
Speaker 2: like the women yesterday, one nill in the ninety fourth minute.

2143
01:47:59,307 --> 01:48:01,947
Speaker 2: Just find a way to win the game. England have

2144
01:48:02,027 --> 01:48:04,307
Speaker 2: lost a work at having done all the hard work,

2145
01:48:04,467 --> 01:48:08,867
Speaker 2: all of that hard Jamie Smith has kinnor thrown his

2146
01:48:08,947 --> 01:48:12,947
Speaker 2: wicket away in many ways. He's out for sixty skying

2147
01:48:13,027 --> 01:48:15,587
Speaker 2: one off the bowling of Mitchell Stark. Will Jacks is

2148
01:48:15,627 --> 01:48:18,027
Speaker 2: still there on thirty two. Brighton cast has come out

2149
01:48:18,547 --> 01:48:21,867
Speaker 2: England two eighty eight for seven and now the target

2150
01:48:22,547 --> 01:48:26,027
Speaker 2: seems a heck of a lot further away. With Smith gone,

2151
01:48:26,147 --> 01:48:28,867
Speaker 2: England need one hundred and forty seven to win the Test.

2152
01:48:28,947 --> 01:48:33,427
Speaker 2: Australia need just three wickets to retain the Ashes. Staying

2153
01:48:33,467 --> 01:48:36,587
Speaker 2: with football, Auckland, Auckland FC, you have snapped up one

2154
01:48:36,627 --> 01:48:40,107
Speaker 2: of New Zealand's most promising young footballers for their upcoming

2155
01:48:40,187 --> 01:48:44,907
Speaker 2: oceany A Pro League campaign, Wellington Olympic midfielder iSER Prince.

2156
01:48:45,347 --> 01:48:47,667
Speaker 2: He was named this year Central League Player of the Year.

2157
01:48:48,027 --> 01:48:50,587
Speaker 2: He scored a goal, had two assists and was named

2158
01:48:50,667 --> 01:48:53,387
Speaker 2: man of the match in the Chatham Cup final and

2159
01:48:53,667 --> 01:48:56,307
Speaker 2: was on the score sheet and last weekend's National League

2160
01:48:56,387 --> 01:49:00,347
Speaker 2: Championship final. Across the year, he scored twenty goals in

2161
01:49:00,507 --> 01:49:03,947
Speaker 2: thirty games for Wellington Olympic Ier Prince as we as

2162
01:49:03,987 --> 01:49:07,627
Speaker 2: Ia congratulations on this move too, Auckland FC. How did

2163
01:49:07,667 --> 01:49:08,347
Speaker 2: it all come about?

2164
01:49:09,387 --> 01:49:10,547
Speaker 20: Thank you so much for having me.

2165
01:49:11,467 --> 01:49:14,627
Speaker 15: First off, it was probably it was probably after the

2166
01:49:14,747 --> 01:49:19,267
Speaker 15: Chatham Cup final. I heard well, my coach Pauliffe was

2167
01:49:19,347 --> 01:49:21,667
Speaker 15: trying to get my name out there, and I think

2168
01:49:21,747 --> 01:49:23,787
Speaker 15: that really kicked it off, just the way I played.

2169
01:49:24,347 --> 01:49:25,667
Speaker 20: Just being out in Auckland.

2170
01:49:25,707 --> 01:49:27,627
Speaker 15: I think maybe a coach or two were there and

2171
01:49:27,667 --> 01:49:30,027
Speaker 15: they were able to watch me play, and I think

2172
01:49:30,067 --> 01:49:31,467
Speaker 15: that's kind of where it all started.

2173
01:49:31,667 --> 01:49:34,387
Speaker 20: But it was really like low key at the time.

2174
01:49:34,587 --> 01:49:36,867
Speaker 15: But as it kept going on, as I kept playing

2175
01:49:36,867 --> 01:49:39,507
Speaker 15: in the National League, I think that's when it really

2176
01:49:39,587 --> 01:49:41,547
Speaker 15: did some men and I started getting calls.

2177
01:49:42,307 --> 01:49:44,307
Speaker 2: And once they had made it clear to you that

2178
01:49:44,347 --> 01:49:46,427
Speaker 2: they were keen to sign you, was it a pretty

2179
01:49:46,547 --> 01:49:48,307
Speaker 2: easy yes for you?

2180
01:49:49,307 --> 01:49:53,227
Speaker 20: Yeah, definitely, definitely. I don't think I hesitated.

2181
01:49:53,827 --> 01:49:56,467
Speaker 2: I'm sure you didn't. I'm sure you didn't. That's a

2182
01:49:56,627 --> 01:49:58,707
Speaker 2: terrific move for you. This is a contract, of course

2183
01:49:58,747 --> 01:50:01,907
Speaker 2: for the Oceania Pro League, which is starting in January.

2184
01:50:02,347 --> 01:50:04,467
Speaker 2: That's an exciting competition in itself and I want to

2185
01:50:04,467 --> 01:50:06,067
Speaker 2: talk a bit more about that. But do you see

2186
01:50:06,347 --> 01:50:11,307
Speaker 2: through this contract ice a pathway into perhaps the A

2187
01:50:11,467 --> 01:50:13,227
Speaker 2: League side at Auckland FC as well.

2188
01:50:13,947 --> 01:50:16,867
Speaker 15: Yeah, definitely, I feel like I feel like I've got

2189
01:50:17,627 --> 01:50:20,267
Speaker 15: told that if I do well in the FC, then

2190
01:50:20,307 --> 01:50:22,907
Speaker 15: there as a pathway to be able to maybe sit

2191
01:50:22,987 --> 01:50:24,747
Speaker 15: on the bench for the A League train with the

2192
01:50:24,787 --> 01:50:25,547
Speaker 15: A League side.

2193
01:50:25,827 --> 01:50:28,147
Speaker 20: A lot of things can definitely branch out.

2194
01:50:28,027 --> 01:50:30,627
Speaker 15: Especially playing for Auckland, and they do have that opportunity

2195
01:50:31,107 --> 01:50:33,867
Speaker 15: where like you know, midweek if they need a training player,

2196
01:50:34,387 --> 01:50:35,787
Speaker 15: one of us could get called in there.

2197
01:50:35,827 --> 01:50:39,107
Speaker 2: You know, that's great news. So twenty twenty five a

2198
01:50:39,267 --> 01:50:42,667
Speaker 2: terrific year for you with Wellington Olympic. Couldn't quite cap

2199
01:50:42,707 --> 01:50:45,267
Speaker 2: it with the National League Championship last weekend after a

2200
01:50:45,347 --> 01:50:48,507
Speaker 2: dramatic final, But in general terms, how do you look

2201
01:50:48,587 --> 01:50:50,867
Speaker 2: back on twenty twenty five as a footballer?

2202
01:50:51,867 --> 01:50:53,747
Speaker 20: I think I think it was great.

2203
01:50:53,907 --> 01:50:57,667
Speaker 15: I really enjoyed last season, especially playing with Olympic, playing

2204
01:50:57,667 --> 01:51:00,147
Speaker 15: with a bunch of good people, a bunch of good fans.

2205
01:51:00,147 --> 01:51:01,707
Speaker 15: I feel like there's no good a place to do it,

2206
01:51:01,867 --> 01:51:06,067
Speaker 15: especially since it's really showed that Olympic can create that pathway.

2207
01:51:07,107 --> 01:51:09,347
Speaker 2: And you've been coached by, as you mentioned before, a

2208
01:51:09,427 --> 01:51:12,547
Speaker 2: bit of a phoenix legend and Paul Eifel, what does

2209
01:51:12,627 --> 01:51:14,387
Speaker 2: he specifically helped you with.

2210
01:51:15,547 --> 01:51:18,787
Speaker 15: Oh, well, I'm more of an attacking player, so I

2211
01:51:18,907 --> 01:51:23,507
Speaker 15: feel like every single aspect of attacking, you know, not

2212
01:51:23,667 --> 01:51:27,187
Speaker 15: at all. So yeah, you know, there's no bit of

2213
01:51:27,267 --> 01:51:29,667
Speaker 15: person that could have taught me the way I've been

2214
01:51:29,747 --> 01:51:30,867
Speaker 15: properly poor at the time.

2215
01:51:31,107 --> 01:51:35,227
Speaker 20: So yeah, it's just just everything pretty much.

2216
01:51:35,747 --> 01:51:37,587
Speaker 2: Tell us about your journey. I so when did you

2217
01:51:37,667 --> 01:51:40,267
Speaker 2: first start kicking the ball around? And you know, tell

2218
01:51:40,347 --> 01:51:44,027
Speaker 2: us about the development of your of your still very

2219
01:51:44,107 --> 01:51:45,107
Speaker 2: young football career.

2220
01:51:47,107 --> 01:51:50,227
Speaker 15: Well, I started off at Upper Heart when I was

2221
01:51:50,547 --> 01:51:53,827
Speaker 15: up in two hours about fifteen, and then I started

2222
01:51:53,867 --> 01:51:57,107
Speaker 15: playing under seventeens at stop Out. And when I left

2223
01:51:57,227 --> 01:51:58,747
Speaker 15: Upperhart and I went to Stop Out, I think I

2224
01:51:58,827 --> 01:52:01,147
Speaker 15: played about a season for the under seventeens.

2225
01:52:01,307 --> 01:52:02,307
Speaker 20: The first team was in.

2226
01:52:03,587 --> 01:52:06,147
Speaker 15: Not centrally but the league just below, and I remember

2227
01:52:06,427 --> 01:52:09,187
Speaker 15: in Colden to go train and then I ended up

2228
01:52:09,227 --> 01:52:13,027
Speaker 15: playing signing and then we got promoted, and that's kind

2229
01:52:13,067 --> 01:52:15,827
Speaker 15: of where it all kicked off, where I think.

2230
01:52:15,707 --> 01:52:20,107
Speaker 20: We burst Olympic stop up Verst Olympic and.

2231
01:52:23,067 --> 01:52:25,787
Speaker 15: And I remember I played really well that game and

2232
01:52:25,867 --> 01:52:29,187
Speaker 15: Brukler got me International League. I started one game against

2233
01:52:29,227 --> 01:52:32,507
Speaker 15: Paul Eifle, played really well against christ Church, Paul wanted

2234
01:52:32,547 --> 01:52:35,267
Speaker 15: to keep me. So I think it's just it all

2235
01:52:35,387 --> 01:52:37,907
Speaker 15: just came down to one game really at the time.

2236
01:52:38,947 --> 01:52:40,427
Speaker 2: What are your football ambitions?

2237
01:52:41,867 --> 01:52:44,347
Speaker 15: I just want to make it as far as I can.

2238
01:52:44,627 --> 01:52:47,787
Speaker 15: I want to just I feel like I always have

2239
01:52:47,987 --> 01:52:49,467
Speaker 15: room to improve and I just want to be the

2240
01:52:49,507 --> 01:52:51,587
Speaker 15: best player I can be. I want to beat myself

2241
01:52:51,627 --> 01:52:52,067
Speaker 15: every day.

2242
01:52:53,107 --> 01:52:55,187
Speaker 2: And when you look back at I guess the last

2243
01:52:55,227 --> 01:52:57,907
Speaker 2: couple of seasons where your development has started to really

2244
01:52:58,707 --> 01:53:01,907
Speaker 2: you know, find a pretty big trajectory. Where have the

2245
01:53:02,667 --> 01:53:05,427
Speaker 2: big improvements come in your game in the last couple

2246
01:53:05,467 --> 01:53:06,147
Speaker 2: of years.

2247
01:53:07,667 --> 01:53:11,267
Speaker 15: I'd say definitely just like, not the stuff on the ball,

2248
01:53:11,347 --> 01:53:13,227
Speaker 15: but definitely the stuff off the ball. I feel like

2249
01:53:13,787 --> 01:53:17,147
Speaker 15: playing at Olympic and playing and means football that you

2250
01:53:17,267 --> 01:53:20,387
Speaker 15: realize that, like it's not just all about what you

2251
01:53:20,427 --> 01:53:22,307
Speaker 15: can do on the ball, it's how much hard work

2252
01:53:22,347 --> 01:53:24,427
Speaker 15: you can put in off the ball. And I feel

2253
01:53:24,427 --> 01:53:28,987
Speaker 15: like it's definitely mindset, Like if you've I feel like

2254
01:53:29,587 --> 01:53:32,547
Speaker 15: I've got a lot more like aggression than I used to.

2255
01:53:32,707 --> 01:53:34,747
Speaker 15: I feel like I have a lot more like passion

2256
01:53:34,867 --> 01:53:37,947
Speaker 15: to play. But yeah, pretty much just just all the

2257
01:53:38,027 --> 01:53:40,107
Speaker 15: running and stuff off the ball that really just got

2258
01:53:40,187 --> 01:53:40,747
Speaker 15: me to where I am.

2259
01:53:40,827 --> 01:53:45,147
Speaker 2: Now, what about the physicality of football at senior means level?

2260
01:53:45,227 --> 01:53:48,027
Speaker 2: Has that been an adjustment that you've managed to make

2261
01:53:48,147 --> 01:53:48,787
Speaker 2: pretty quickly.

2262
01:53:49,627 --> 01:53:51,907
Speaker 20: Yeah, definitely. I feel like I feel like it's just

2263
01:53:51,947 --> 01:53:52,307
Speaker 20: a given.

2264
01:53:52,427 --> 01:53:55,547
Speaker 15: Like you when you're younger, you're just like you're wanting to, like,

2265
01:53:55,707 --> 01:53:57,387
Speaker 15: you know, get to go to the gym and stuff.

2266
01:53:57,467 --> 01:54:00,427
Speaker 15: So I remember getting a gym membership when I like

2267
01:54:00,587 --> 01:54:03,227
Speaker 15: three years ago, and you kind of just fall in

2268
01:54:03,267 --> 01:54:05,627
Speaker 15: love with it. So it just becomes sick of nature.

2269
01:54:06,067 --> 01:54:08,427
Speaker 15: You just go there every second day, every day and

2270
01:54:08,627 --> 01:54:11,107
Speaker 15: just muck around there. Even if you're not doing the

2271
01:54:11,187 --> 01:54:12,827
Speaker 15: right things, at least you get something out of it.

2272
01:54:13,907 --> 01:54:16,227
Speaker 2: You're, as you mentioned, been based in Wellington for a

2273
01:54:16,307 --> 01:54:19,387
Speaker 2: long time. Had you had contact with the Phoenix about

2274
01:54:19,427 --> 01:54:20,827
Speaker 2: possibly joining them?

2275
01:54:22,267 --> 01:54:27,987
Speaker 15: Unfortunately not, which was a bit disheartening, but that is Yeah,

2276
01:54:28,187 --> 01:54:29,627
Speaker 15: it's all right.

2277
01:54:29,667 --> 01:54:30,627
Speaker 20: I don't really mind now.

2278
01:54:32,547 --> 01:54:35,387
Speaker 2: Well, the path of the head now is clear with AUCKLANDFC,

2279
01:54:36,027 --> 01:54:38,627
Speaker 2: the O League or the Oceania Pro League. Have you

2280
01:54:38,707 --> 01:54:41,587
Speaker 2: started thinking about what that might be like in terms

2281
01:54:41,627 --> 01:54:43,547
Speaker 2: of the styles you're going to come up against against

2282
01:54:43,547 --> 01:54:45,867
Speaker 2: some of these Pacific Island sides. Have you had much

2283
01:54:45,907 --> 01:54:48,547
Speaker 2: experience playing against sides from the Islands at all.

2284
01:54:49,507 --> 01:54:50,227
Speaker 11: No, not at all.

2285
01:54:50,307 --> 01:54:52,547
Speaker 15: But from what I've heard and from what I've watched,

2286
01:54:53,067 --> 01:54:54,787
Speaker 15: I feel like it's definitely going to be.

2287
01:54:56,267 --> 01:54:56,467
Speaker 1: Well.

2288
01:54:56,947 --> 01:54:58,347
Speaker 20: There's going to be a lot of factors, and I

2289
01:54:58,427 --> 01:55:00,627
Speaker 20: thought they're definitely going to be very physical.

2290
01:55:00,987 --> 01:55:03,587
Speaker 15: They're going to be They're going to be really good

2291
01:55:03,667 --> 01:55:05,507
Speaker 15: with the heat that we're about to play in over

2292
01:55:05,587 --> 01:55:06,227
Speaker 15: on the Islands.

2293
01:55:06,467 --> 01:55:08,387
Speaker 20: So I think it's going to be a good season,

2294
01:55:08,467 --> 01:55:11,387
Speaker 20: a good interesting season to see how we can adapt

2295
01:55:11,627 --> 01:55:14,987
Speaker 20: to the heat and the way that they play.

2296
01:55:15,707 --> 01:55:17,867
Speaker 2: And have you have you officially joined up with the

2297
01:55:17,867 --> 01:55:20,027
Speaker 2: rest of the team yet or when do you officially

2298
01:55:20,067 --> 01:55:23,107
Speaker 2: link up with your teammates and start really preparing.

2299
01:55:23,947 --> 01:55:25,267
Speaker 20: Yeah, well I left.

2300
01:55:26,947 --> 01:55:30,107
Speaker 15: I left the day after the National League Final, and

2301
01:55:31,107 --> 01:55:34,467
Speaker 15: I came up to do all of my medical and

2302
01:55:34,587 --> 01:55:37,107
Speaker 15: stuff with the club, and that's when I started meeting

2303
01:55:37,147 --> 01:55:38,627
Speaker 15: the boys because yet they were training.

2304
01:55:38,867 --> 01:55:40,547
Speaker 20: But I'm on break at the moment.

2305
01:55:41,907 --> 01:55:43,907
Speaker 2: And so what early in the new year. It starts

2306
01:55:43,947 --> 01:55:46,187
Speaker 2: on about the seventeenth of January, doesn't it your first game?

2307
01:55:46,307 --> 01:55:49,467
Speaker 2: So presumably you'll get together not long after Christmas to

2308
01:55:49,507 --> 01:55:50,347
Speaker 2: start really preparing.

2309
01:55:50,907 --> 01:55:53,227
Speaker 15: Yeah, we start training on the twenty eighth, which is

2310
01:55:54,547 --> 01:55:58,107
Speaker 15: not much too much after Christmas, So I'm going to head.

2311
01:55:57,947 --> 01:56:01,147
Speaker 20: Back home tonight. Actually, then I'll go.

2312
01:56:01,227 --> 01:56:03,507
Speaker 15: See my family over Christmas and then drive back up

2313
01:56:03,547 --> 01:56:04,187
Speaker 15: on the twenty eighth.

2314
01:56:04,747 --> 01:56:06,627
Speaker 2: How BIG's your family been in all of this? How

2315
01:56:06,747 --> 01:56:08,227
Speaker 2: important have they been in your journey?

2316
01:56:08,827 --> 01:56:08,947
Speaker 20: Oh?

2317
01:56:09,427 --> 01:56:12,947
Speaker 15: They mean everything, you know, Like before this, I was

2318
01:56:13,027 --> 01:56:15,827
Speaker 15: just a twenty year old who was working his ass

2319
01:56:15,907 --> 01:56:17,307
Speaker 15: off as well as playing football.

2320
01:56:17,347 --> 01:56:19,347
Speaker 20: You know, I was working a job, having to pay

2321
01:56:19,387 --> 01:56:19,947
Speaker 20: ren at home.

2322
01:56:20,067 --> 01:56:23,227
Speaker 15: But I feel like they definitely supported me throughout the journey,

2323
01:56:23,267 --> 01:56:25,547
Speaker 15: and it's just something that I'm grateful for, you know.

2324
01:56:25,867 --> 01:56:27,987
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, it's an exciting time ahead for you made

2325
01:56:28,027 --> 01:56:32,267
Speaker 2: a very exciting time and d congratulations on signing with

2326
01:56:32,307 --> 01:56:34,227
Speaker 2: Auckland FC. Can't wait to see how you go in

2327
01:56:34,347 --> 01:56:36,907
Speaker 2: the Old League to start with, and then who knows

2328
01:56:36,987 --> 01:56:39,107
Speaker 2: beyond that ICEA All the best youre mate. Thanks for chatting.

2329
01:56:39,547 --> 01:56:41,307
Speaker 20: Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it.

2330
01:56:41,427 --> 01:56:43,627
Speaker 2: No, I appreciate you joining us. I well done. Indeed,

2331
01:56:43,747 --> 01:56:47,627
Speaker 2: I a prince. I would encourage you to remember that name.

2332
01:56:48,187 --> 01:56:52,147
Speaker 2: I get the feeling he will he will be somebody

2333
01:56:52,227 --> 01:56:55,987
Speaker 2: who does pretty well in this game of football, seventeen

2334
01:56:56,027 --> 01:56:57,747
Speaker 2: and a half away from three. Take a break, come back,

2335
01:56:57,747 --> 01:57:00,947
Speaker 2: head to Bay Oval. Update you on the fourth day

2336
01:57:00,987 --> 01:57:03,427
Speaker 2: of the Third Test black Caps v West Indies. Andrew

2337
01:57:03,547 --> 01:57:04,707
Speaker 2: Ordison back with us after this.

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Speaker 2: There'd be coming up fourteen away from three. Let's get

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Speaker 2: you back to Bay Oval. Andrew Ordison watching on as

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Speaker 2: New Zealand start to build a fairly sizeable lead. They're

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Speaker 2: having a drink at the moment. You've abstained from that

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Speaker 2: for the meantime orders. What's the latest the greetings Piney.

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Speaker 10: We have got to one hundred and twenty two of

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01:57:34,347 --> 01:57:37,107
Speaker 10: our moss let's lead at two hundred and seventy seven

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Speaker 10: and it looks like that will it accelerated the last out.

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Speaker 10: I think eighty seven runs coming between Tom Waits and

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Speaker 10: Devin Comway, and I will look to have a bowl

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Speaker 10: again at listing tonight to be giving themselves for a

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Speaker 10: time here with that acceleration, and I'm thinking that at

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Speaker 10: least and now possibly even more given there how much

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Speaker 10: they've worked at it. Just from a stats watch perspective, Piney,

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Speaker 10: this is the second time in a Test match that

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Speaker 10: there's been two opening stands in the same Tests by

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01:58:04,027 --> 01:58:06,947
Speaker 10: New Zealand openers, and the last time the only connection

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Speaker 10: here Rod Latham and Mark great Batsch in bulaway Agan,

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Speaker 10: Zimbabwe in nineteen ninety two. So just a little bit

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Speaker 10: of a point of note there for you and your listeners.

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Speaker 2: You know, I love the stats And just on Conway,

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01:58:21,307 --> 01:58:23,027
Speaker 2: it seems an age ago that you've got a duck

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Speaker 2: in the first innings in christ Church, since that thirty seven,

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Speaker 2: sixty twenty eight not out, two hundred and twenty seven

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Speaker 2: and now seventy one not out. Great to see Devin

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Speaker 2: Conway return to the form. I guess we always knew

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Speaker 2: that he had.

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Speaker 10: It's certainly a purple patch, isn't it. And if you

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Speaker 10: look at Conway, I mean now he's moved on to

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Speaker 10: seventy one late and forty two. Conways to give that

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Speaker 10: second century joined a fairly alites club as well of

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Speaker 10: two centuries in a Test match featuring Jeff Howard, Glenn Turner,

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Speaker 10: Andrew Jones, Peter Fulton and Caine Williamson. So that's still

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Speaker 10: on the horizon this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Illustrious company indeed. So I guess it's just a guessing game.

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Speaker 11: Really.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned to us a couple of hours ago when

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Speaker 2: we chatted that it's more about leaving enough time rather

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01:59:05,027 --> 01:59:08,907
Speaker 2: than getting to a particular target with regards to runs.

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01:59:09,267 --> 01:59:12,107
Speaker 2: Whatever the West Indies are chasing, will they have a

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01:59:12,187 --> 01:59:14,027
Speaker 2: go at it or would they be more like they

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01:59:14,067 --> 01:59:16,227
Speaker 2: were on the final day in christ Church and just

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01:59:16,227 --> 01:59:18,827
Speaker 2: sort of play out for an honorable drawer. What do

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01:59:18,907 --> 01:59:20,147
Speaker 2: you think their approach will be?

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Speaker 10: Look, I think they'll probably go for it, but you've

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01:59:23,307 --> 01:59:25,107
Speaker 10: got a sort of dangle of bait, don't you. And

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Speaker 10: I think if it goes the lead, well we're talking

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01:59:27,187 --> 01:59:29,267
Speaker 10: about the lead of two seventy nine at the moment

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Speaker 10: with another couple of runs added, but if it's beyond

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Speaker 10: four hundred and of course they're loose of four hundred

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Speaker 10: and eighteen, the world record fourth innings chase. I think

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01:59:36,587 --> 01:59:39,307
Speaker 10: it starts to there's a defensive mindset. There isn't that,

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01:59:39,347 --> 01:59:41,227
Speaker 10: although you're trying to play us a side out of

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01:59:41,267 --> 01:59:43,107
Speaker 10: a Test. But I think if you keep it under that,

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01:59:43,267 --> 01:59:46,147
Speaker 10: maybe under four hundred, there'll be some incentive there and

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01:59:46,587 --> 01:59:49,027
Speaker 10: that's what they might be looking at. So yeah, there's

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Speaker 10: I mean that the pitch is certainly deteriorating, particularly as

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01:59:52,067 --> 01:59:54,507
Speaker 10: I'm looking at the moment at the mount end, if

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01:59:54,507 --> 01:59:56,267
Speaker 10: you're volving from the city, and I think that's probably

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01:59:56,307 --> 01:59:59,427
Speaker 10: where they put as Ftel heading into a fourth innings

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01:59:59,467 --> 02:00:01,347
Speaker 10: and trying to get the most out of the rough

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02:00:01,467 --> 02:00:06,107
Speaker 10: with those footmarks still building and going into a fifth day,

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Speaker 10: and you seem to have played this pretty tactically well,

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02:00:08,507 --> 02:00:12,107
Speaker 10: I think going into the entire duration of the Test,

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02:00:12,147 --> 02:00:13,667
Speaker 10: if you look at it that way, given they couldn't

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02:00:13,747 --> 02:00:16,627
Speaker 10: enforce a fool on, they've got themselves in a pretty

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Speaker 10: decent set of circumstances.

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Speaker 2: I guess you always gravitate towards the spinners, don't you,

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02:00:21,107 --> 02:00:23,707
Speaker 2: in the fourth innings on a deteriorating pitch. But you

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Speaker 2: look at Jacob Duffy's numbers in this series, Ordustry, I've

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Speaker 2: been impressed with them, eighteen wickets. Might he also be

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Speaker 2: quite a key figure in the fourth innings of this Test?

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Speaker 10: I do, I think indeed, just just because of the

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Speaker 10: I guess the venom that he's brought really on occasion

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02:00:40,587 --> 02:00:43,867
Speaker 10: bullocking in Jacob Duffy as he does, and just with

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02:00:43,987 --> 02:00:46,347
Speaker 10: the variable bounce we're seeing as the test goes on,

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02:00:46,467 --> 02:00:48,867
Speaker 10: and it's going to be a handful regardless, and I

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02:00:48,907 --> 02:00:50,987
Speaker 10: think you would probably bowl him if you're looking at

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Speaker 10: probably your top two bowls in that lineup Duffy, and

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02:00:53,427 --> 02:00:56,747
Speaker 10: he could tell as I'm looking at it anyway, you'd

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02:00:56,827 --> 02:00:59,667
Speaker 10: take Duffy bowling from the mountain end of the city

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Speaker 10: end perhaps where he'd had all the success over the

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Speaker 10: course of this test.

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02:01:04,427 --> 02:01:06,987
Speaker 2: Now, just before you go, you've been in christ Church,

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02:01:07,187 --> 02:01:10,467
Speaker 2: in Wellington and now in Mount Monganui, and I know

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02:01:10,547 --> 02:01:16,187
Speaker 2: you've always been a keen connoisseur of catering at test venues.

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02:01:16,267 --> 02:01:18,267
Speaker 2: Are you able have you come up with a winner

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02:01:18,667 --> 02:01:21,667
Speaker 2: or a podium of sorts in terms of the catering

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02:01:21,707 --> 02:01:25,067
Speaker 2: you've availed yourself of over the last three weeks or so.

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Speaker 10: Well, being the self of our gourmet that I am piety. Look,

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Speaker 10: I'm gonna I'm I'm just going to say this quietly

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Speaker 10: between you and I'm giving it to the mount. Actually

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Speaker 10: they take that, they take first prize, absolutely outstanding, probably

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Speaker 10: Hagley second. And I'm sorry to say that Wellington third

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Speaker 10: that that's just that's this one man's view. But honestly

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Speaker 10: in the mount we have been absolutely treated. I think

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Speaker 10: probably a standout would be the Lamb Curry yesterday.

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Speaker 2: All right, well we can't win a trick here in

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Speaker 2: the Capitol, I'll tell you.

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Speaker 10: I have to give answer.

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02:02:02,947 --> 02:02:05,747
Speaker 2: Well, at least we've got a Test victory, diplomatic one, no,

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02:02:06,027 --> 02:02:08,547
Speaker 2: not an all that is great to get your reports

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Speaker 2: across the across the weekend and across the year. All

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Speaker 2: the best to you and the Ordison far No for

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02:02:13,147 --> 02:02:15,667
Speaker 2: a wonderful Christmas and relaxing holiday season. Look forward to

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Speaker 2: catching up in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 10: Likewise of the Pines, good on you, mate.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Ordison joining us from Bay Oval, New Zealand one

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Speaker 2: twenty six without loss, a lead of two hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty one, Devin Conway seventy three not out closing in on,

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02:02:30,307 --> 02:02:36,227
Speaker 2: as Andrew said, a fairly well rare milestone innings or sorry,

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02:02:36,307 --> 02:02:39,067
Speaker 2: Test centuries in both innings of a Test match. Only

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02:02:39,147 --> 02:02:41,027
Speaker 2: five others have done it for New Zealand. Could Devin

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Speaker 2: Conway become the sixth? At the other end, Tom Latham

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Speaker 2: just a bit more Sedate forty four unbeaten, Conbo seventy

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Speaker 2: three New Zealand one twenty six without loss. That's a

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02:02:50,227 --> 02:02:52,707
Speaker 2: lead of two hundred and eighty one. Quick check on

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Speaker 2: what's happening across the Tasman. It's all sort of been

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02:02:55,227 --> 02:02:58,947
Speaker 2: a bit deflating since the dismissal not long ago of

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02:02:59,067 --> 02:03:02,867
Speaker 2: Jamie Smith, but Will Jackson Brighton Carser giving it a

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02:03:02,947 --> 02:03:06,307
Speaker 2: crack three hundred and eight for seven three hundred night

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02:03:06,467 --> 02:03:09,707
Speaker 2: for seven, one hundred and twenty seven. Further runs needed

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Speaker 2: if England are to pull off the most unlikely of

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Speaker 2: test victories. Eight away from three News Talk shit.

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