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Speaker 3: And Welcome to Daver scrap over the India FTA Whether

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Speaker 3: It's a thing? Sonny kosche'l on having his retail grip

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Speaker 3: wound up Early, Zoey On and Medal, Mark and Jinny

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Speaker 3: winning performances as well as Exivit Husky, Welcome to the day.

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Speaker 3: Seven past six, Greg Foraran back where I suspect he

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Speaker 3: belongs and he likes the former in New Zealand Boss

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Speaker 3: if you've missed the news this week is after Kroger's,

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Speaker 3: which is America's second biggest grosses behind Walmart. I have

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Speaker 3: never met a New Zealander who has worked in America

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Speaker 3: that belongs in America more. It was evident from the

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Speaker 3: very first time I met him he was American. You

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Speaker 3: can spot them in their shirts and ties. They're conservative

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Speaker 3: and yet impeccably pressed. He looked like he'd starched himself

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Speaker 3: getting out of bed every morning. The last time he

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Speaker 3: was in here his farewell interview. We talked off here

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Speaker 3: about where now now. He didn't say specifically, but I

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Speaker 3: knew it was America. The bitter he never explained, probably

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Speaker 3: because he either couldn't for commercial reasons or couldn't because

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Speaker 3: he hadn't quite worked it out, was what the hell

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Speaker 3: he was ever doing back in New Zealand. I asked

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Speaker 3: him any number of times in a sort of nondirect way,

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Speaker 3: what on earth was it about a small airline at

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Speaker 3: the bottom of the world that would drag you out

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Speaker 3: of Walmart to come and run it? Possibly, given he

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Speaker 3: wasn't running Walmart, it was a job in which he

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Speaker 3: was running something. So as CV would eventually show a

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Speaker 3: Kroger's in years to come, he was ready to be

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Speaker 3: the boss at Walmart. He lived in Arkansaw and flew

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Speaker 3: in private jets. In New Zealand. He kept having to

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Speaker 3: explain why the Wellington to Taupo never took off. The

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Speaker 3: COVID thing must have been the nightmare from hell and

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Speaker 3: it wasn't his fault, obviously, But even without it, and

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Speaker 3: the myriad of problems he faced, including the inexplicable cluster

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Speaker 3: around the engines that no airline anywhere seems to have

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Speaker 3: encountered the way in New Zealand. Has you always got

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Speaker 3: the impression he was either here for a short time

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Speaker 3: or it had been all a sort of a patriotic

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Speaker 3: mistake driven by a laudable desire to return home and

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Speaker 3: make some sort of contribution. But I can tell you this,

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Speaker 3: Of all the in New Zealand CEOs I've known Ralph Norris,

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Speaker 3: business legend, Rob Fire for marketing genius, Christopher Laxen a

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Speaker 3: prime minister, and Greg Furan, no one looked less at

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Speaker 3: home and more bewildered than Greg. Some people loved him

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Speaker 3: because he was often at the airport checking in their bags.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the work ethic was never an issue. The

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Speaker 3: issue was in New Zealand, wasn't American? And I bet

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Speaker 3: you now he has never been happier or more relieved.

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Speaker 2: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 3: Right, is Farmer on the homeward journey to better days

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Speaker 3: over Epstein?

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Speaker 4: No he is not, but is only now a matter

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Speaker 4: of when he goes, not if he goes. His position

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Speaker 4: is clearly untenable, and I think that we need to

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Speaker 4: acknowledge the fact that the country is not being governed.

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Speaker 4: Nothing is happening.

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Speaker 3: The man himself is in full fight mind.

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Speaker 5: I will never walk away from the mandate I was

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Speaker 5: given to change this country.

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Speaker 3: I will never walk.

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Speaker 5: Away from the people that I am charged with fighting for,

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Speaker 5: and I will never walk away from the country that

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Speaker 5: I love.

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Speaker 3: His old mate Andy from Manchester appears to a bect him.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to do speech.

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Speaker 6: I will answer, i will answer the questions inside.

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Speaker 7: I'm going to do a sport speech, Yes he does.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to do bloke who could be leader but

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Speaker 3: would be a bit useless. As Rod pointed out yesterday,

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Speaker 3: miller Band has worked out what side of the brid

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Speaker 3: his butt's on.

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Speaker 8: We as a government have a mission which is to

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Speaker 8: stand up for the power less in our society, not

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Speaker 8: the powerful. What gets you through very difficult days, and

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Speaker 8: yesterday was a very difficult day is mission and values.

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Speaker 3: Sadly, for the Royal family, the idiot Andrews and Dix

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Speaker 3: has followed as nephew all the way to Saudi.

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Speaker 9: Sir, to what extent do you think the Royal family

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Speaker 9: has done enough around the Android Epstein issue?

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Speaker 2: Sir?

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Speaker 4: To what extent do you think the Royal family has

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Speaker 4: done enough around the Android Epstein issue.

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Speaker 3: And then it riches high into the Trump administration as

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Speaker 3: well with how Lutnik now in trouble.

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Speaker 10: It may be ten emails connecting with him over a

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Speaker 10: fourteen year period. I did not have any relationship with him.

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Speaker 10: I barely had anything to do with that person.

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Speaker 3: Trouble is. He since confirmed he went to the island,

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Speaker 3: but only on a family holiday. Finally, another reason to

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Speaker 3: love coffee. Late'st music protects against dementia. This is from

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Speaker 3: the Public Medical School in Boston. They studied one hundred

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Speaker 3: and thirty thousand people found those who had a couple

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Speaker 3: of cups a day two to three cups a day

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Speaker 3: were eighteen percent less likely to develop dementia. If you

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Speaker 3: had one or two cups of tea, you were fourteen

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Speaker 3: percent less likely. It does say the research doesn't support

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Speaker 3: adding to your caffeine and take on top of those numbers.

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Speaker 3: So here's the world a name. Yeah, the problem now

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Speaker 3: is latest developments this morning on Epstein slash Starmer slash

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Speaker 3: Mendelssohn is we're streeting who it was alleged was a

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Speaker 3: good friend of Mendelssohn has proactively released rote in The

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Speaker 3: Guardian and actively released all his messages in the six

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Speaker 3: months prior to his appointment in the job, at which

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Speaker 3: point Starmer came out and went, can no one else

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Speaker 3: release any messages please? Because it looks a bit dodgy.

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Speaker 3: So it's going well. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 3: A bad read for December. US consumers were not spending.

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Speaker 3: Spending was flat, and it came off the back of

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Speaker 3: an increase in November. So that'll be a worried to

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Speaker 3: some people. And then the US are more corrupt than

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Speaker 3: they used to be. The international indexers out this morning

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Speaker 3: the Transparency International Corruption Perception Index. America's now got its

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Speaker 3: lowest ranking ever. It's at twenty ninth, tied with the Bahamas,

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Speaker 3: Andrew Keller her Gurud Morning, Good morning, Mike. We're spending

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Speaker 3: as the revivers a reshoot has a reflector.

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Speaker 6: Hey, well, it's interesting that the Americans aren't, isn't it

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Speaker 6: Coause has been sort of He's been touting that strong economy,

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Speaker 6: I think, and spending is one area that can indicate

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Speaker 6: You know, I love the A Z monthly data series.

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Speaker 6: have seen positive signs in the a Z data. There

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Speaker 6: are also positive signs in the Westpac retail spending pulse.

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Speaker 6: It's showing that spending picked up in late twenty twenty

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Speaker 6: seems like quite a healthy lift. As Ever, we do

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Speaker 6: need to consider contexts. Households are spending more on those

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Speaker 6: essentials we've talked this gets talked about incessantly. Food, petroar

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Speaker 6: that accounts for some the lift in spending. But and

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Speaker 6: it's an important but there has been a lift in

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Speaker 3: And I think we're all encouraged to see that.

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Speaker 6: Hospitality spending seems to have benefited. But it's not just

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Speaker 6: that we're seeing it there in restaurants. We're also seeing

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Speaker 6: these are not seasonal lifts, Mike. I think what we

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Speaker 6: rural economy enjoining those cash flows from improved pre commodity prices.

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Speaker 6: just then. We're seeing it in Northland, Wellington, well Wellington

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Speaker 3: So I think that's good news. Yeah, I think it

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Speaker 3: is too. Talk to me about this tech debt and

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Speaker 3: what interests me most of all. If these guys are

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Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of concern, particularly in the

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Speaker 6: So we're going to go back to the ubiquous topic

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Speaker 6: at the moment, which is tech and AI. One of

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Speaker 3: Now Alphabet Google, over.

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Speaker 6: The last couple of days has raised twenty billion dollars

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Speaker 6: looking to raise fifteen but they received over one hundred

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Speaker 6: So they lifted the amount that they sold to twenty billion.

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Speaker 6: That's followed up. They followed it up with further capital

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Speaker 6: I find this remarkable. They have sold a one hundred

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Speaker 6: year bond, So if you lend money to Alphabet through this,

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Speaker 6: you get repaid in a hundred years time. Very unusual,

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Speaker 6: very rare occurrence. Has only been tempted by very few

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Speaker 6: non government issues. It's done in Sterling. They got almost

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Speaker 6: So while the maybe concern over the spending, there are

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Speaker 6: plenty of people lining up Mike to give the money

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Speaker 3: But give me the trichometer because I'm always intoed like souper.

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Speaker 3: Is that all right? It's okay?

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Speaker 6: At east and the light traffic indix heab traffic the

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Speaker 6: next day eased in January, but the trend still looks

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Speaker 6: so trend.

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Speaker 3: Is still okay. Okay, numbers please, so.

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Speaker 6: That the Dow Jones has rallied three hundred and four points.

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Speaker 6: As I look at it, points percent fifty thousand, four

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Speaker 6: been bouncing around. It's currently in positive territory uper point

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Speaker 3: How Lutnik is in trouble? The Guthrie Update for you

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Speaker 3: Stateside from Richard Shortley, twenty three minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 3: The Sally's back here or Back with the uniteenth State

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Speaker 3: of the Nation report. Key finding showed child poverty and

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Speaker 11: It's good to be here.

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Speaker 3: How do you get your information because I don't know

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Speaker 11: Well, what's the what we do in our report each

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Speaker 11: the concern is that there are not fewer people using

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Speaker 3: The problem is also the people using might be lying

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Speaker 3: Okay, unaffordable rents, how do we define unaffordable and who's

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Speaker 11: Well, unaffordable rents is a pretty acceptable definition. There is

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Speaker 3: No, that will be true, I think we'd accept that.

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Speaker 3: Is there too much editorial editorializing in this particular report

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Speaker 11: Well, we're seeking to bring into this report the perspective

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Speaker 3: Around good stuff. Paul, appreciate your sign. Paul Barbara are

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Speaker 14: He will might be He certainly has a few questions

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Speaker 14: to answers we'll get to in a minute, but first

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Speaker 14: from the top prison. Trump's account of his knowledge of

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Speaker 14: the crimes of Jeffrey Epstein has been challenged by some

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Speaker 14: of his own words found now in the fi the

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Speaker 14: Epstein files. The Miami Herald is out today spotlighting the

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Speaker 14: call that Trump made to the police chief in Palm

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Speaker 14: Beach in Florida, after Epstein's criminal sex sex charges became public.

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Speaker 14: Where Donald Trump made a call to the police before

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Speaker 14: all of that. Well, that's a question some might want

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Speaker 14: to ask. This is dated from July two thousand and six,

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Speaker 14: and what Trump said at that time is in sharp

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Speaker 14: contrast to what he said in July of twenty nineteen

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Speaker 14: when asked about his knowledge of Epstein's crimes. No, I

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Speaker 14: had no idea.

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Speaker 2: I had no idea.

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Speaker 14: Well, that is not what he told police chief Michael

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Speaker 14: Writer in six According to an FBI interview with the

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Speaker 14: former chief, Trump told him at that point, quote, thank goodness,

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Speaker 14: you're stopping him. Everyone has known he's been doing this.

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Speaker 14: Trump told the chief that he was around Epstein once

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Speaker 14: when teenagers were president, and Trump said he quote got

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Speaker 14: the hell out of there. Trump also spoke about Julane Maxwell,

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Speaker 14: who is serving that twenty year federal prison sentence for

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Speaker 14: her role in recruiting and grooming underage girls for Epstein.

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Speaker 14: He told the police chief that Maxwell was Epstein's quote

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Speaker 14: operative and said, quote she is evil. Focus on her.

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Speaker 14: He told the chief, Well, this emerges because at the

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Speaker 14: very time when Maxwell has just refused to answer questions

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Speaker 14: from US lawmakers, pleading the US Constitution's Fifth Amendment against

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Speaker 14: self incrimination multiple times yesterday like this, I.

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Speaker 15: Invoke my Fifth Amendment rate to silence well.

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Speaker 14: In a statement, her lawyer says she is quite prepared

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Speaker 14: to speak fully and honestly if President Donald Trump grants

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Speaker 14: her clemency. What a nerve she touted for a Trump

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Speaker 14: pardon when Trump's former criminal lawyer now Deputy ag Todd

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Speaker 14: Blanche interviewed her while back and said Trump always was

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Speaker 14: the gentleman. She was then shifted off to a softer

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Speaker 14: prison where she is said to receive special treatment even

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Speaker 14: if Trump has refused to rule out a pardon for her.

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Speaker 14: Can't be much more blatant than that, can it. Some

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Speaker 14: lawmakers now being given access to unredacted versions of the

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Speaker 14: Epstein files. They got to see about forty of the

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Speaker 14: three million plus files. That's still about only half of

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Speaker 14: what the Justice Department has. Republican congress Member Republican Anna

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Speaker 14: Paulina Luna is one. She says of Maxwell.

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Speaker 16: Wrying to the files that we all saw she was

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Speaker 16: engaged in the trafficking.

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Speaker 2: And also rape of young women and potentially children.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that she deserves any special chievement.

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Speaker 14: She's an anslor. Republican Lauren Bobert also has seen some

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Speaker 14: of the files unredacted and was asked with a Maxwell

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Speaker 14: should get some special deal.

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Speaker 17: I do not.

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Speaker 18: I think Gilene Maxwell should get more time, and she

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Speaker 18: should definitely be in a harsher prison than what she's in.

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Speaker 19: Well.

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Speaker 14: Republican Cynthia Loomis of Wyoming says this.

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Speaker 10: Initially my reaction to all this was I don't care.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the big gild is.

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Speaker 20: But now nine.

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Speaker 14: Year old, yep you heard right. Some of the lawmakers

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Speaker 14: saw a reference to a nine year old victim of

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Speaker 14: Epstein's sex trade nine, while Democrat Jared Moscow which s

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Speaker 14: of his view of the files.

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Speaker 16: I saw a worldwide sex trafficking ring with people in

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Speaker 16: other countries. Sourcing young children for Jeffrey Epstein. Co conspirators' names,

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Speaker 16: men and women, clearly other people that might be on

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Speaker 16: the client list, that are on text messages and emails.

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Speaker 16: Over redaction, dramatic over redaction.

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Speaker 14: Democrats claimate cover up with these widespread redactions. In just

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Speaker 14: a few minutes with the files, they found six names

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Speaker 14: of alleged co conspirators. Their names had been concealed. While

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Speaker 14: there are also, as you say, these growing calls for

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Speaker 14: the ouster of Trump's Commerce secretary, how At Lutnik. Lutnick

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Speaker 14: has said building on that he had cattle ties with Epstein.

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Speaker 14: Lutnik lived for a time right next door to Epstein,

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Speaker 14: and in twenty twelve he was making, according to the file's,

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Speaker 14: plans to visit Epstein's island in the Caribbean, one of

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Speaker 14: the residents where sexual abuse of miners was taking place.

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Speaker 14: Lutnick is insisting that he did nothing wrong. Democrat wrote

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Speaker 14: Kenna says.

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Speaker 19: We have a sitting cabinet member, Howard Lutnik, who's all

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Speaker 19: over the files as having a business relationship allegedly and

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Speaker 19: personal relationship allegedly after Epstein was already convicted.

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Speaker 14: So Lutnik now is being questioned about this on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 14: This is developing, Mike.

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Speaker 3: Just real quick, speaking of developing, So how are we

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Speaker 3: going to see a photo here? On the Guthrie thing?

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Speaker 14: Sounds like the first break in all of this. Of course,

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Speaker 14: It's been what ten days since Nancy Guthrie was kidnapped

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Speaker 14: from her bed in her twoson home. Law enforcement now

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Speaker 14: expected to release a photo potential suspect. The FBI reportedly

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Speaker 14: has an image of a man at Guthrie's Tucson home,

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Speaker 14: images from a surveillance camera on site. I don't know

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Speaker 14: why it didn't come out earlier, but it's said to

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Speaker 14: show a man wearing a mask and carrying a backpack

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Speaker 14: or possibly some tools. This is the Guthrie family has

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Speaker 14: heard nothing from the personal persons responsible, so we wait

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Speaker 14: to see how this plays.

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Speaker 3: See in a couple of days. Appreciate it. Richard Arnold nine.

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Speaker 1: To seven the mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey Real Estate Newstalks.

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Speaker 3: Standing by Cayman yesterday, A and Z nine point fifty.

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Speaker 3: This is the milk price because three fantastic auctions this

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Speaker 3: year so far fourteen percent up so far. It had

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Speaker 3: to move the price eventually, previously eight ninety, so it's

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Speaker 3: up sixty cents. Fonterra is still sitting at eight fifty

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Speaker 3: to nine to fifty with a midpoint of nine, so

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Speaker 3: they're going to have to move. What was interesting I

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Speaker 3: thought was the supply demand fundamentals that drive the prices

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Speaker 3: down at the end of last year are still largely

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Speaker 3: in place. But in hindsight, the selloff was overdone. In

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Speaker 3: other words, people panicked. So anyway, the price is going

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Speaker 3: in the right direction. Five to two seven on the

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Speaker 3: ins and the outs.

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Speaker 2: It's the fizz with business favor. Take your business productivity

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Speaker 2: to the next level.

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Speaker 3: My long wall travel, this is weird. So for eight

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Speaker 3: months in a row, travel and tourists in the US

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Speaker 3: have dropped, right, So some blame Trump, some blame the economy,

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Speaker 3: all of that stuff. Anyway, Europe's biggest travel operated two

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Speaker 3: E says while Trump's immigration policies do cause some concern

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Speaker 3: for some people, it's actually just the fact that long

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Speaker 3: haul travel is currently less popular. So we've got to

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Speaker 3: report from the europe Travel Commission found only forty two

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Speaker 3: percent of long haul travelers were considering a trip to

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Speaker 3: Europe this year, down from forty five only thirty four

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Speaker 3: percent of US citizens are looking to travel to Europe,

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Speaker 3: down from thirty seven. People are saying cost time, energy

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Speaker 3: of long haul travel, that's a deterrent. Despite the dropping

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Speaker 3: interest too, he actually had a one percent profit in quest.

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Speaker 3: And this is where this is all wrong, because some

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Speaker 3: europe Travel Commission survey tells you one thing. And yet

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Speaker 3: what I know from the American airlines when they're reporting

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Speaker 3: to the market, and they actually know what they're doing

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Speaker 3: because they have planes and seats and people buying tickets

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Speaker 3: as they're all forecasting increase in travel to Europe this year,

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Speaker 3: and the backlog of planes at buying an airbus has

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Speaker 3: never been greater as people desperately in the airline industry

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Speaker 3: scramble to get more planes, more seats on routes for

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Speaker 3: long haul travel. Long haul travelers is gangbusters. So I

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Speaker 3: don't know what's going on. That wouldn't be the first

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Speaker 3: time I've said that now the Trade Minister, I don't

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Speaker 3: even know what's going on here. So Winston's running this

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Speaker 3: thing about the FTA with India and there's going to

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Speaker 3: be unlimited Indians and that's gosh, could that be election year?

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Speaker 3: I wonder? So Anyway, there's some text floating about the

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Speaker 3: place where allegedly the government was saying one thing, but

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Speaker 3: the text said something different. So it's all dancing on

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Speaker 3: the head of a pin staff McClay had to come

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Speaker 3: out yesterday and go, well, he is where we're at,

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Speaker 3: so we'll get him to explain that once and for

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Speaker 3: all and hopefully we can all move on with our Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Then Zoey Sadowski's Senate another winner. Looks like a good

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Speaker 3: winter Olympics. She is with us from Italy after seventey

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Speaker 3: this morning meantime on the mic Hosking Breakfast, the news.

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Speaker 1: Is next credible, compelling, the breakfast show you can't miss.

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Speaker 1: It's the mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether

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Speaker 1: better across residential, commercial and rural news talks.

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Speaker 3: He had been only seven past seven, So this comes

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Speaker 3: from the dancing and the head of a pin file.

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Speaker 3: We've got angst around this FTA India wording. Now confirmation

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Speaker 3: from the government that the agreement would not allow in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand to impose a cap on students visas specifically

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Speaker 3: from India. Now, is this the part that Winston Peters

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Speaker 3: and the xenophobes have been milking now Trade Minister Top

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Speaker 3: mclay's with this good morning, Hey, make good morning. Do

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Speaker 3: you accept that this is the sort of thing in

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Speaker 3: election year that people will grab and run with.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right, but it's really important

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Speaker 12: to rise it up aer level Number one. There was

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Speaker 12: always going to be a bit of politics around this

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Speaker 12: because it is a very big deal. It's one point

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Speaker 12: four billion people. You know, I've seen a lot of

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Speaker 12: speculation about tens and tens of thousands of Indians just

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Speaker 12: having the absolute right to come to New Zealand. Make

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Speaker 12: this is a trade deal, it's not an immigration deal.

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Speaker 12: They do not have that ability. The New Zealand governments

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Speaker 12: reserve the right to change visa settings as we need to.

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Speaker 12: And the final point would be we have now a

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Speaker 12: trade deal, one of the best end there is done

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Speaker 12: with anybody. We're five million people by one point four billion.

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Speaker 12: This is a very good deal for New Zealand and

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Speaker 12: each party in partner was going to decide how are

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Speaker 12: they going to make the case of where their support lies.

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Speaker 3: As regards the text. Could you have been clearer?

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Speaker 12: Well, the answer is yes, I could have, But you've

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Speaker 12: heard me say on your show, it's going through a

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Speaker 12: legal verification and then we'll look to release it. There's

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Speaker 12: a Herald article today that is correct that says India

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Speaker 12: has asked it not to be released. If you think

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Speaker 12: about it, there negotiating with the EU and the US,

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Speaker 12: and they're very sensitive about what they've given us equally

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Speaker 12: what they will give others, and so you know, we

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Speaker 12: can only release things and talk about things widely when

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Speaker 12: our partners in this case India agree, So yes, it

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Speaker 12: could have been clearer in it, but at the same time,

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Speaker 12: it's going through legal verification and it's my expectation it

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Speaker 12: will be released to the public and every single member

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Speaker 12: of Parliament that it has a right to have a

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Speaker 12: better understanding of it, and we'll go through a proper

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Speaker 12: and full parliamentary scrutiny.

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Speaker 3: Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 17: But the.

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Speaker 3: Ply and the ointment here is our policy settings in

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Speaker 3: terms of bringing people into the country are unchanged. So

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Speaker 3: in other words, if we want more nurses, we will

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Speaker 3: decide how many more nurses we won't go we want

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Speaker 3: two thousand nurses, but no one from India because we've

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Speaker 3: never done that left or nothing's.

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Speaker 12: Different, that's right, well, the debate at the moment has

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Speaker 12: moved to students and whether or not we can cap

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Speaker 12: the number of students, and actually there has never been

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Speaker 12: a cap on number of students. We've never said we

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Speaker 12: want them from Australia, we don't want them from the UK,

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Speaker 12: and I don't think any future government would ever do that.

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Speaker 12: That makes no sense to But what we have always

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Speaker 12: done is we have changed the visa settings, the conditions

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Speaker 17: In New Zealand.

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Speaker 12: If we jump back to when we were in government previously,

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Speaker 12: there was a very large number of students in New Zealand.

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Speaker 12: As a result of COVID, it went down, but the

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Speaker 12: previous government we have changed those settings to make sure

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Speaker 12: that actually the number of places and students coming here

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Speaker 12: matches are required a lot, and we can continue to

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Speaker 12: call this is general settings.

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Speaker 3: This is just immigration policy the way it's always been.

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Speaker 12: Yes, that's exactly right, and you've got that exactly right.

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Speaker 12: And there's nothing in the agreement that alters have stopped

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Speaker 12: a current of future in New Zealand government from doing that.

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Speaker 12: But I want to come back again and look, I

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Speaker 12: accept there was always going to be a bit of

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Speaker 12: politics around this. It doesn't surprise me, but Mike, this

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Speaker 12: is a trade deal with one point four billion people.

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Speaker 12: Go all the way back to the China agreement, when

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Speaker 12: there was the same sort of angst. If we hadn't

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Speaker 12: have done that deal over a few Chinese you know,

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Speaker 12: chefs coming here, I think our economy was much poorer.

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Speaker 17: It'd be far fewer jobs.

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Speaker 12: This is a great deal with India and we just

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Speaker 12: need to grab it by the horns and let Kiwi

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Speaker 12: businesses do what they do best, go overseas and make money.

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Speaker 3: Exactly. No man, nice to talk to you, Tom McLay,

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Speaker 3: Trade minister. Is it getting harder to do anything in

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Speaker 3: this country? Is everything we try and do in this

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Speaker 3: country that's positive? Some idiot's going to moan about it?

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Speaker 3: Is that where we're at now at eleven past seven, Oscar, Well,

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Speaker 3: it's over. I'm a prid to tell you. The government's

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Speaker 3: pulled the pin early on the Ministry Real Advisory Group

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Speaker 3: into retail crime. Three of the five were gone. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: as we talked to Goldsmith on the show about the

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Speaker 3: other day. Anyway, Sunny Kushel is the cheer of all

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Speaker 3: of this. Andy's were a sunny morning.

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Speaker 20: To you, very good morning.

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Speaker 3: Were you done any way basically or was there more

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Speaker 3: to do? Do you think?

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Speaker 20: Look, there's more to do, But I'm very relaxed about

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Speaker 20: the mad wrapping up in May. You know, I'm very

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Speaker 20: proud of the progress achieved in the quality of policy

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Speaker 20: work produced, and we're getting strong appreciation from retailers and

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Speaker 20: the police across New Zealand. In fact, the retailers they

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Speaker 20: finally feel heard. So to tell you, we have delivered

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Speaker 20: our work much faster than expected. We have delivered five

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Speaker 20: high quality reports last year and those are major reform patches.

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Speaker 20: And currently as we speak, we are working on our

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Speaker 20: few last reports, which we were delivered before May, and

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Speaker 20: that was always our plan and in truth, the mag

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Speaker 20: would have been winding down at the stage anyway.

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Speaker 3: Just to be clear, the three that are gone, two

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Speaker 3: had gone to other jobs. Caroline was the only problem.

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Speaker 3: Is that fair or not? Over? The other two didn't

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Speaker 3: like you either?

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Speaker 20: Oh no, See, the other two were really good, but

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Speaker 20: they moved because of their promotions in their work. And

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Speaker 20: in terms of Carolyn, Look, I'm not upset how things

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Speaker 20: went down. I'm focused on delivering outcomes for victims, and

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Speaker 20: I'm not interested in the mag becoming a talk fest

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Speaker 20: focused on frameworks. And I'm not responded to her public

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Speaker 20: commands because I'm focused on getting the job done and

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Speaker 20: not getting distracted by ego.

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Speaker 3: What do you say to Ginny Anderson who said, these

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Speaker 3: are all your ideas, you gave them for free anyway,

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Speaker 3: and half of them are dangerous.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, see, it's inconsequential. What hardworking Kiwis are hearing from

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Speaker 20: Jenny's only highlighting her failures. Just cast your mind. Three

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Speaker 20: years ago, it used to be the news full of violence,

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Speaker 20: ram rates and aggravated robberies. Lawlessness had gripped the entire nation.

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Speaker 20: Retail crime was double under Labour's watch when Jenny was

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Speaker 20: the police minister. She has not introduced any solution, not

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Speaker 20: supported any safety measure. She has been all talks but nothing.

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Speaker 20: Her own cliques have different view. The problem with Jenny

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Speaker 20: Mike is she is running with the white flag. She

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Speaker 20: accepts crime, she accepts violence, and she wants nothing done.

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Speaker 3: Nice to talk to you, Sunny, go well, sunny kashal See.

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Speaker 3: I like Sonny, I like Carolyn, so I'm sort of

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Speaker 3: meeting this out. I would have been the ideal person

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Speaker 3: to be on that committee because I'm a lover, not

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Speaker 3: a fighter. I'm a peacemaker. Thirteen minutes past seven, Mike,

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Speaker 3: give me one thing. The Salvation Army shifted from being

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Speaker 3: spiritual based to social welfare quasi political movement to their jitriment. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I tend to agree with you. The other fun thing.

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Speaker 3: It's not happening here. I don't think it's happening here.

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Speaker 3: But if it is happening here, do let me know.

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Speaker 3: McDonald's for Valentine's Day are handing out cavia as of

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Speaker 3: five o'clock this morning, New Zealand time. They talk about

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Speaker 3: Eastern time in the US. I assume it's only in

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Speaker 3: the US. It's an upscale, yet efeless celebration. You get

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Speaker 3: announced hin of McNugget cavia, some crem fresh, a mother

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Speaker 3: of pearl caviare spoon, and a twenty five dollars gift car.

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Speaker 3: What do you reckon McDonald's caviar tastes like?

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Speaker 21: Is there other?

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Speaker 3: Seven? And wonca? If the chicken isn't chicken? Where do

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Speaker 3: you reckon the caviarras? That's a joke. Fourteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Mike asking breakfast full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 3: The afore mentioned Ginny Anderson arter right along with Mark

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Speaker 3: Mitchell of Corso Sadowski Senate. Shortly seventeen past seven from

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Speaker 3: the old Tourism file News at the Holiday in Express

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Speaker 3: and Sweets and Queenstown it's being refurbed. It's going to

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Speaker 3: be relaunched as a thing called Voco Queenstown to become

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Speaker 3: part of IHG's premium portfolio. Why because the old Q

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Speaker 3: Town's booming. The hotel runs it around ninety percent capacity

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Speaker 3: for nine months of the year these days. Anyway, James

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Speaker 3: Dulan is with the Hotel Council with us. James, Morning, Morning, Mike,

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Speaker 3: how you very well? Is there story typical? Just to

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Speaker 3: explain that better because that was a very poorly written

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Speaker 3: intro by me in the early hours of the morning.

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Speaker 3: There are mid mid specter sort of you know, mid

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Speaker 3: sector kind of hotel and the going flash. Is that

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Speaker 3: typical of Queenstown.

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Speaker 22: Yes, it is typical of Queenstown at the moment. And

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Speaker 22: let me tell your listeners, this is typical of all hotels.

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Speaker 22: Hotels are long term assets, but they're to terror ratingly

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Speaker 22: and they need to be sold to customers every single night,

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Speaker 22: over and over and over again. So it's really normal

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Speaker 22: every seven to ten years for a hotel owner to

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Speaker 22: think about renovation and reposition. Sure this is a positive signal.

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Speaker 3: But upgrading to the next level of hotel is encouraging,

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Speaker 3: isn't it. I mean, it's one thing to refort the room,

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Speaker 3: but it did not go up market's good.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, absolutely, and it's great to be talking about a

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Speaker 22: good news story. But this doesn't happen by accident. For

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Speaker 22: the last twelve months, central government has listened to industry

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Speaker 22: and it's dialed up its investment in event attraction and

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Speaker 22: destination marketing in New Zealand, more money for tours and

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Speaker 22: New Zealand, more money for events. And then private businesses

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Speaker 22: do what private businesses are supposed to do, which is

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Speaker 22: invest in their assets and their businesses. So we talk

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Speaker 22: about up growing productivity the VOCO. If it achieves higher

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Speaker 22: rev par revenue per available room, that's an increase in

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Speaker 22: productivity for the workers at their hotel.

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Speaker 3: It's a good story, good stuff. James, nice to talk

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Speaker 3: to you that rev par. How long have I been

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Speaker 3: talking about the red par on this program? James Doolan

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Speaker 3: out of the anyway. Mike. That's saying a love and

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Speaker 3: not a fighter was coined by account an actual fat

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Speaker 3: You can be both I am. I am a lover

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Speaker 3: and a fighter. That's right. You've got me in one, Mike.

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Speaker 3: I got your cab joke. Good one, LeAnn. If everyone

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Speaker 3: can just text me just to confirm they got the jokes,

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Speaker 3: it'll keep the lawyers at bay. Mike, you first complained

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Speaker 3: to the bsa nut. Leanne's covered me off on that one.

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Speaker 3: Everyone understood it was a joke. Let's going nowhere put

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Speaker 3: your application for it.

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Speaker 21: What makes it funnier when you had to explain it

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Speaker 21: as well?

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Speaker 3: I think so, Mike. The New Zealand Free Trade Dealer

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Speaker 3: is outstanding. Winston Peters needs to pull his head in

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Speaker 3: and shut up. Mike asked. The Hooks by Export is

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Speaker 3: about the Indied Trade Agreement. It's absolutely massive for them.

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Speaker 3: Awesome work. Tod and Team twenty Past.

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Speaker 1: How It By News talks evy.

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Speaker 3: Good news. Valentine's Day just around the corner. Perfect time

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Speaker 3: up seven twenty four. Question for you is Originaire and

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Speaker 3: Westport part of a wider regional issue in rural New

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Speaker 3: Zealand now origins Westport to Wellington flight is in jeopardy.

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Speaker 3: It is not the first small airline in the first

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Speaker 3: small town to face this trouble. In fact, as a

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Speaker 3: result of this trouble, the government set up you might remember,

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Speaker 3: the Regional Investment Fund for Essential air Services. I suppose

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Speaker 3: the key is the word essential. I mean, as Westport

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Speaker 3: to Wellington escentral. The fund, it is suggested, is going

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Speaker 3: to turn the airline down for help. Why, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: So we seem to have a sort of a rock

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Speaker 3: and hard place scenario. Is life on the coast about

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Speaker 3: mainly Hoki Tika? I mean you can fly from Hoka

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Speaker 3: Tika if you've checked that out? Is that good enough?

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Speaker 3: Add the insurance issue on the coast and as well,

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Speaker 3: how many hurdles does a region need before it becomes

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Speaker 3: a little bit hard, before you essentially just need a

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Speaker 3: whole lot of government support to keep the lights on?

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Speaker 3: It is, of course, the cold hard reality of a

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Speaker 3: small country with a small population that's decided rightly or wrongly,

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Speaker 3: to spread themselves all over the place. Numbers matter, Planes

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Speaker 3: need to be full, businesses need demand. The equation has

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Speaker 3: to make sense. How much air connectivity is the right about?

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Speaker 3: What about freight versus people? What about product to market

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Speaker 3: that requires speed not the volume of say a train

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Speaker 3: or a truck. How far should you have to drive?

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Speaker 3: I mean, Hokatik is not far away. In fact, irony

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Speaker 3: of ironies, it could be quicker to go from Westport

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Speaker 3: to Hokatika. Then it is from north of Auckland to

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Speaker 3: the south of Auckland where the airport is. We do,

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Speaker 3: once again, though rightly or wrongly, expect a lot in

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Speaker 3: small town New Zealand. We love the quiet of the country,

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Speaker 3: don't we in rural in New Zealand, just with all

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Speaker 3: the first world services and conveniences. If you wouldn't might

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Speaker 3: It's also true to say that small towns all over

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Speaker 3: the world have the same issues, places like Australia with

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Speaker 3: its size, even more so than us. But if you

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Speaker 3: don't have an eeling, and you don't have insurance, and

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Speaker 3: you can't find a GP and the dentist is in

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Speaker 3: the city on the other side of the Alps, you

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Speaker 3: get it. Where you get a tipping point, don't you

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Speaker 3: where it all starts to become a little bit hard.

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Speaker 3: Is the coast or parts of it in danger of

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Speaker 3: that very scenario. Cosking Mike Todd sees the deal as

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Speaker 3: a trade deal, while Indiac's the deal is an immigration deal.

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Speaker 3: Well that's not true. Why would India see that as

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Speaker 3: an immigration deal? I mean, I don't understand why people

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Speaker 3: don't understand this. We don't do settings, nor have we

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Speaker 3: ever on immigration delineating countries. We say we need doctors,

877
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Speaker 3: We need six hundred doctors, and if you have the

878
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Speaker 3: qualifications you can come in. We don't go we need

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Speaker 3: six hundred doctors except if you're from India and you

880
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 3: can't cut. We've never done that, we never will, Morning,

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Speaker 3: mikel We seem to be a country of winers instead

882
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Speaker 3: of this. What frustrates me, I'm going to be honest

883
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Speaker 3: about this India thing is how long have we been

884
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Speaker 3: banging on? The answer is years years to get a

885
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Speaker 3: free trade deal done with India. We've been desperate. I mean,

886
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Speaker 3: I've been on this program year after year saying where

887
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: why is every government? And this is multiple government. It's

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Speaker 3: not just the last Labor government for six years, but

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Speaker 3: national before that. How is it? We have not been

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Speaker 3: able to get it across the line. Given that one

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Speaker 3: they're over a billion people. Two, they are a massive

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Speaker 3: growth engine. They're rolling in its six seven eight percent

893
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Speaker 3: GDP growth this year alone and have done for many,

894
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Speaker 3: multiple number of years. They are the future of the

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Speaker 3: economy and manu respects around the world. Why don't we

896
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Speaker 3: want to do a deal with these people? Then when

897
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Speaker 3: we do a deal with these people, what's the first

898
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 3: thing we do start whining about it? For God's sake,

899
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Speaker 3: make up your mind. You either want to live in

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Speaker 3: a decent country or you don't. You either want the

901
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Speaker 3: economy to grow or you don't. You either want to

902
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Speaker 3: do business with the world or you don't. You either

903
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Speaker 3: want to have immigration or you don't work it out

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Speaker 3: what it is you want. We should have an election

905
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Speaker 3: about that. Zoe Sadowski's Senate silver another bronze this morning,

906
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Speaker 3: so we'll get the vibe from Italy, Mark and Ginny

907
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Speaker 3: after eight as well. Meantime, the news is next. You're

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Speaker 3: on the my hosting again.

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Speaker 1: No fluff, just facts and fierce debate the My Hosking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way, News,

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Speaker 1: togs heead.

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Speaker 3: Be Politics Wednesday after eight twenty four minutes away from

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Speaker 3: a two medals at the Winter Olympics, Luca Harrington gets

914
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Speaker 3: a bronze and the slopestyle Zoe Sadowski's sinates still buzzing

915
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Speaker 3: after yesterday's silver, of course, and she's with us from metally.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, good morning, how are you. I'm very well indeed,

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Speaker 3: but not as good as you was. There a good

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Speaker 3: vibe in the camp as you return with yet another medal.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, greatest vibes out here in Italy.

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Speaker 3: We're in the venue.

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Speaker 9: And we've got a camp of oh I don't even

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Speaker 9: know how many kiwis, but there's a lot of us,

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Speaker 9: all justin black and yeah, so special to have people

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Speaker 9: out here supporting. It's been really fun.

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Speaker 3: Are you able to geographically see everything? I mean, Luca's

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Speaker 3: done very well overnight as well. Do you touch base?

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Speaker 3: Have you seen him and congredulate all that stuff?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, for sure. We actually just had a bit of

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Speaker 9: a a bit of a celebration for Luca and I

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Speaker 9: and it was my first time seeing him today because

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Speaker 9: I hadn't seen him yet since he won the medal,

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Speaker 9: So it was really nice to congratulate him. I'm so

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Speaker 9: soaked for every such a weapon and yeah, super well deserving.

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Speaker 3: Weird Marty Toomey on the show the other day, he

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Speaker 3: was we're looking for north of three medals given how

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Speaker 3: well things have gone so far. Are you feeling good

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Speaker 3: about that possibility?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, honestly, such an incredible team we have here in Italy,

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Speaker 9: and yeah, who knows what the rest of the games

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Speaker 9: will bring, but it's definitely the best Winter Olympic team

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Speaker 9: we've had yet. And I'm so inspired by all my teammates,

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Speaker 9: and yeah, we'll see what the rest of the game springs.

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Speaker 3: I was watching the Big Ear the guys at the

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Speaker 3: Big Ear the other day and they didn't get a

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Speaker 3: middle but there were three in the top ten, and

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Speaker 3: one of them said, my god, we've got three in

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Speaker 3: the top ten. There's something what's going on in the

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Speaker 3: team that everyone's so sort of hyped and vibing about

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Speaker 3: how good life is.

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Speaker 9: I don't know. There must be something in the water

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Speaker 9: down in New Zealand, but yeah, it's been pretty insane.

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Speaker 9: I think. Yeah, we just have a really good team culture.

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Speaker 9: We have one of the best parks in the world

954
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Speaker 9: at Kadrona. Most of us, pretty much most of the

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Speaker 9: teams are from Olive in Wanaka, which is pretty insane.

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Speaker 9: And yeah, I don't know. We just it's really nice.

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Speaker 9: We're just feeding off each other's energies and getting inspired

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Speaker 9: by each other. And yeah, I get so inspired watching

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Speaker 9: everyone else like reach and achieve their goals.

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Speaker 3: Talk to me about the slopestyle. How are you playing this?

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Speaker 3: Because there's a gap between what you did yesterday and

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Speaker 3: what you're going to do, presumably in slopestyle, is how

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Speaker 3: do you handle the gap psychologically?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I got slopestyle up next, and I'm really excited

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Speaker 9: because it's my favorite event because you get so more

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Speaker 9: of my snowbarding, and yeah, I'm just excited to finally

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Speaker 9: get on the course check it out and see how

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Speaker 9: it's running. And yeah, I just got to run ideas

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Speaker 9: of runs that I would like to do, and yeah,

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Speaker 9: I'm just gonna try to do my best.

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Speaker 3: Does it does it help or hinder the fact that

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Speaker 3: you've already got success? Does slope style get easier because

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Speaker 3: Big gear was so successful?

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Speaker 9: I don't know about that, honestly, there's a lot. Uh,

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Speaker 9: they're so different. Big airs like your biggest, hardest tricks.

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Speaker 9: You're scaring yourself, You're trying to go big and then

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Speaker 9: slope style, you have a bunch of rails coole jumps

978
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Speaker 9: and you have to figure out what you're going to do,

979
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Speaker 9: whereas big As already kind of planned. And so yeah,

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Speaker 9: it's a bit more, it's a bit more brain power,

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Speaker 9: but so exciting because you can get creative with it.

982
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Speaker 3: That's fantastic. I was interested in your comments about nerves

983
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Speaker 3: in your metal performance. That's the reverse of what's supposed

984
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Speaker 3: to be, Like the better you are, the more successful

985
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Speaker 3: you are, the easier it gets. What's happened there?

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Speaker 9: Wait?

987
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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 19: Well?

989
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 3: When you were talking about how nervous you yesterday, why

990
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Speaker 3: why are you're nervous when you're as good as you are?

991
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Speaker 2: I know, I don't know.

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Speaker 9: It's just that that Olympic pressure is pretty pretty immense,

993
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Speaker 9: and I think, yeah, we I've learned how to deal

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Speaker 9: with it over time. But coming into these Olympics, I

995
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Speaker 9: had bone bruising in my knees that happened three months

996
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Speaker 9: ago and have still been dealing with a bit of that,

997
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Speaker 9: but also didn't get the prep that I quite wanted.

998
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Speaker 9: So coming into this I felt a lot more nervous

999
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Speaker 9: than usual. And yeah, it was just really I was

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Speaker 9: really grateful to have an experience where I had to

1001
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Speaker 9: deal with that and try and work through it and

1002
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Speaker 9: try and put it down when it mattered.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic. Well, you know that, we're all thrilled for you

1004
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 3: back here and it's just it looks fantastic, and congratulations

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Speaker 3: on that. Good luck on the next one, and good

1006
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Speaker 3: luck to the rest of the team, and always lovely

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Speaker 3: to talk with you.

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Speaker 9: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: She's a delight, isn't She's so? He said, asking eighteen

1010
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Speaker 3: minutes away from eight quick asking question is the government?

1011
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 3: This is out of the government's ten million dollar contestable

1012
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Speaker 3: fund for events. This is for the you know how

1013
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 3: they're bringing the State of Origin. It's not yet, it's

1014
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Speaker 3: not really announced yet, but it will be anyway. They've

1015
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Speaker 3: announced also for fashion Week they're supporting Fashion Week for

1016
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Speaker 3: the first time in fifteen years. They're going to be

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Speaker 3: funding or helping fund New Zealand Fashion Week in the

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Speaker 3: middle part of August. My question is this is the

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Speaker 3: taxpayer money well spent on an event that's either well

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Speaker 3: established and therefore successful, or well established and therefore not

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Speaker 3: successful that it needs government funding. Would we be better

1022
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Speaker 3: off funding one off events like a State of Origin

1023
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Speaker 3: or would we be better off supporting seemingly forever events

1024
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Speaker 3: that may or may not be making money. My understanding

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Speaker 3: of the Fashion Week is it's not what it was

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Speaker 3: or it struggles. Are we in now the business of

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Speaker 3: helping through taxpayers money struggling events? And to what end? Answers? Please?

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Speaker 3: It'd be Mike. Funding is also given to Wellington on

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00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 3: a plate. Should only be for events that bring in

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00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 3: millions of dollars to the country, like large sporting events

1033
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Speaker 3: and concerts. You know what I tend to agree either

1034
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Speaker 3: it makes it after fifteen years, the thing's either workable

1035
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Speaker 3: or it isn't, and it clearly if it isn't, then

1036
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Speaker 3: it doesn't. You know, then don't don't keep bailing it up? Mike,

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Speaker 3: what a beautiful interview with Zoe? Could hear her smile

1038
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 3: in her voice? You know I love her? OEMG. How

1039
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Speaker 3: freaking call of Zoe? I think the answer is pretty

1040
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 3: freaking cool. How many of the one billion Indians might

1041
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 3: will buy New Zealand products ten fifty five percent? What's

1042
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 3: that about? Is that as xenophobic text. What if it

1043
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Speaker 3: is ten percent? What's ten percent of a billion people?

1044
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Speaker 3: It's one hundred million people. So you don't want to

1045
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Speaker 3: market of one hundred million people, do you, bloody idiot.

1046
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Speaker 3: Perhaps the concern is because the India Prime Minister and

1047
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Speaker 3: Trade Minister have announced that it includes unlimited access for students. Ted,

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Speaker 3: Guess what. Guess what, Ted, We have unlimited access for

1049
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Speaker 3: students everywhere. It's got nothing to do with India. We

1050
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Speaker 3: want more students. Why do we want more students? Because one,

1051
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Speaker 3: we've got a very good reputation internationally for education too.

1052
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Speaker 3: They bring in a shedloaded dough. We had a booming

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Speaker 3: tourism industry worth in excess of student tourism industry with

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Speaker 3: an excess of five billion dollars before COVID. COVID killed it,

1055
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Speaker 3: borders killed it, labor government killed it, and they only

1056
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Speaker 3: slowly started to come back. We've never limited countries around students.

1057
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Speaker 3: We want more students, so don't start delineate. And that's

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Speaker 3: the other thing I tried to raise with Maclay. We

1059
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Speaker 3: don't delineate around countries. This is a red hearing. We

1060
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Speaker 3: set immigration policy for jobs on skills for students. On

1061
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Speaker 3: unlimited numbers because we like them and we want more

1062
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Speaker 3: of them. This is literally made up problems, which brings

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Speaker 3: me to Judge Jim Aiken Day two, gripping story, very

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Speaker 3: very the guy she's got, David Jones case, he's a

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Speaker 3: rock star. I don't know him, but he makes us

1066
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Speaker 3: very good, very good point. I would have thought she

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Speaker 3: was up there yesterday saying she did not shout, she

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Speaker 3: did not recognize Peter's voice, she did not know it

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Speaker 3: was a political event. So that's her defense so far.

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Speaker 3: But Jones, her lawyer, raises what I think is an

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Speaker 3: exceedingly interesting point. We have the very real political context

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Speaker 3: of the complaint generated by it seems a political situation,

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Speaker 3: and of all the issues that have been raised about

1074
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Speaker 3: the reports in the media, they're all political issues. So

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Speaker 3: this is a politicized situation, not of the judges making,

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00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 3: but of others. And what you have is a situation

1077
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 3: we're in the current climate. For example, it's an election year,

1078
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 3: we have coalition issues that obviously are going to be

1079
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 3: concerning some people in the Attorney general. If he gets

1080
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 3: the loaded gun from the panel, what considerations will come

1081
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 3: into play here? What an excellent foll I mean, it's

1082
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 3: an obvious point, but good on and for making it.

1083
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 3: And if I was paying him the many hundreds of

1084
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 3: dollars an hour as a client, I'd want him to

1085
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 3: make it. But the point is this, this is going

1086
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 3: to end. She's there in the stook. She's in because

1087
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 3: someone from New Zealand first complained about her. Who in

1088
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 3: New Zealand First, they're a political party? Are they active

1089
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 3: this year an election campaign? Yes they are. If the

1090
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 3: panel goes we recommend to the Attorney General you remover her.

1091
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 3: What's the Attorney General going to do an election year?

1092
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 3: So no matter what the Attorney General is going to

1093
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 3: do an election year, it becomes highly highly political. Did

1094
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 3: the Attorney General happens to be a national MP make

1095
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 3: the decision to remove her because it's New Zealand first,

1096
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 3: and because they're a coalition partner and because they want

1097
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 3: them back in the government after the election? Open question?

1098
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 3: Did the Attorney General not remove her much to the

1099
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 3: chagrin of New Zealand first because it's election year and

1100
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 3: they're second tide of Winston Peter's money about the FTA

1101
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 3: in India? Open question? See how political it is? So

1102
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what the panel says. The final decision

1103
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 3: rests with the attorney general. And who is the attorney general?

1104
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 3: It's a politician.

1105
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: Tend to wait for the Mike asking breakfast with a

1106
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: Vita retirement Communities news togs headbs.

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00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 3: Given away from it what we have? While will they

1108
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 3: claim a world first for a key we startup. It's

1109
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 3: a fizzy drink that doesn't need a plastic bottle, so

1110
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 3: you drop it in water at Fizzers, you've got a

1111
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 3: soft drink. Cuts out the five hundred and eighty three

1112
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 3: billion single use plastic bottles produced globally each year. Now

1113
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 3: the company is targeting a million in revenue by next year,

1114
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 3: ambitions to scale to a billion and export businesses. Brian

1115
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 3: Wester is behind it. She's the founder of Incrediballs and

1116
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 3: is with us. Brian morning, good morning. Did I say

1117
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 3: that right? In credit balls? Do you emphasize the balls?

1118
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 20: I don't, but bloods tend too, so you can say

1119
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 20: it how you liking?

1120
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 11: There?

1121
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 3: We go? Well said as so it is a ball,

1122
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 3: obviously you drop it in water. Is it any different

1123
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 3: from a you know, like I don't know my lanter

1124
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 3: and indigestion tablet type fizz that you already gone.

1125
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 23: Well, I mean it tastes a lot better, but no,

1126
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 23: the theory is the same exactly. It's like a bath

1127
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 23: bomb in it's the exact same theory as a bath bomb,

1128
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 23: but it definitely tastes better than a bath bomb.

1129
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 3: Okay, is there anything how have you done it technically

1130
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 3: scientifically that recreates a taste sensation that I would take

1131
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 3: that over a bottle.

1132
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 23: Well, we have very clever scientists who figured out how

1133
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 23: to so. If ever, since react, which is what you

1134
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 23: call stuff that fizzles and water rates, they react with

1135
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 23: it's moisture in the ear. So they also have to

1136
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 23: package and things that plastic around aminium. And for the

1137
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 23: last seven to eight years, scientists have been working on

1138
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 23: how to stabilize these because it's kind of a big

1139
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 23: problem throughout the industry, and that is what incredibles are

1140
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 23: based on, and that's why it's a will first in

1141
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 23: terms of plastic metal glass free drinks. The taste that

1142
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 23: was almost the easy well, it was the easy bit

1143
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 23: because natural flavors and colors and things have come an

1144
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 23: awfully long way. And the cola tastes exactly like a

1145
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 23: coler it's mind blowing?

1146
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 3: Is it? What's a cost for a ball?

1147
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 23: Retail price? If you buy a single pack is a

1148
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 23: lot more excuses than buying a six pack, but you've

1149
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 23: looked at it. Depending on on what pack size you're

1150
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 23: looking at, you two to three bucks a drink, which

1151
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 23: people say, oh, that could be a bit steep, but

1152
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 23: it is if you compare it to say a budget

1153
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 23: can of say a coler, But I don't know. When

1154
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 23: you look at a power age or something at a dairy,

1155
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 23: it starts talks a lot more reasonable. It's it's a

1156
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 23: funny thing pricing in it. It's all about visual perspective

1157
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 23: and the courts are tiny.

1158
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 3: What do you reckon? How have you worked out how

1159
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 3: well this is going to go? What's your vibe on this?

1160
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 3: I mean, is this going to be the next big thing?

1161
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 3: Or this could be a fizzer? See when I did that?

1162
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 20: Very good?

1163
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 23: A great question. I have no idea and I'm largely

1164
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 23: terrified for launch next week. We're going to take the

1165
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 23: next six months kind of quietly, so it's sales online

1166
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 23: only to see what people think. We have done an

1167
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:00,919
Speaker 23: awful lot of tastes and we've had sort of big

1168
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 23: tast test parties which were quite cool and very illuminating

1169
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 23: stuff A kid some faith.

1170
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 3: But who knows because I'm looking you up again because

1171
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 3: I haven't dealt with you for a number of years.

1172
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 3: But when I lasked her, are you an entrepreneur or

1173
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 3: an environmentalist? Because you call yourself by first. If you're

1174
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,919
Speaker 3: one thing, what are you first? An entrepreneur environmentalist?

1175
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 23: I don't know if I call myself an environmentalist because

1176
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 23: I don't think I have the like chops, but people do.

1177
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 23: I think I'm an entrepreneur fist, but I don't believe

1178
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 23: business and environmentalism need to be as separate as people

1179
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 23: thought they do.

1180
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 17: Well.

1181
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 3: I wish you all the very best with it. Brianna West,

1182
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 3: who's the founder of Incredibles. She was part of Supersize Me.

1183
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 3: You remember Supersized Me seven eight years ago. That was

1184
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 3: fantastic and she was one of the ethic was the

1185
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 3: company that she was involved with. So she's got new

1186
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 3: ideas and we wish you all the very best. Were

1187
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 3: that we'll go buy some balls. We'll get some balls. Sam,

1188
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 3: we go get us some balls. We'll get some balls,

1189
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 3: we'll do a taste testing. We weren't invited to the

1190
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 3: Taste Test party because we don't go to parties because

1191
00:58:58,400 --> 00:58:58,959
Speaker 3: we're not cool.

1192
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 21: We could get do the whole Cohler thing and you

1193
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 21: can see if you can pick which one because you're

1194
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 21: such a big fan of coal as usually.

1195
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 2: I love.

1196
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 3: Politics wins and what's going on the Labor party? All

1197
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 3: these MP's saying they're going to work with a married party.

1198
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 3: What's going on there? Is that a problem? Jenny and Mark.

1199
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Speaker 1: Shortly asking the questions others won't the mic asking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with the Defender embraced the impossible news togs'd.

1201
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 3: Be beauty in your bootiun then I love Robbie Williams

1202
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 3: that I just love, love, love love him.

1203
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Speaker 2: There.

1204
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 3: Last time we interviewed him, he was in a hotel

1205
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 3: in Geneva and we talked about the price of toast

1206
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:53,919
Speaker 3: and sandwiches. He thought they were expensive, and I thought

1207
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 3: the fact that he thought they were expensive means they

1208
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 3: clearly are expensive or he was trying to do is

1209
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 3: I know him with a lot of money and can

1210
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 3: afford any sort of sandwiches I want. But I'll try

1211
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 3: and be one of the boys anyway. This is his

1212
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 3: thirteenth album. It's called britt Pop I believe that Gary

1213
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 3: Barlow pops in and the album later on. But if

1214
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 3: you like this, this is It's, It's, this is it.

1215
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 3: There's like eleven tracks like this. Any lasts thirty eight

1216
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 3: minutes and thirteen seconds, which, in my humble opinion, isn't

1217
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,959
Speaker 3: nearly long enough. If you've never heard the Angels song

1218
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 3: Redone in a couple of albums ago with an orchestra,

1219
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 3: get hold of that. It'll blow your mind. Eight minutes

1220
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 3: past eight Politics, Wednesday Time, Mark Mitchell's with us. Good morning,

1221
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 3: Good morning, Mike, Ginny Anderson. Mike, Oh, I see you

1222
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 3: don't even wait for the great Sorry, sorry Jesus, just

1223
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 3: the it's just just follow instructions, Jenny, it will work out, work.

1224
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 3: Can I just actually, can I congratulate you? Jinny? I believe,

1225
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 3: I mean, Barbara started it to be fair, but you

1226
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 3: leapt on with alacrity, and I think you were probably

1227
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 3: under Nichola's skin by the end of Question time yesterday.

1228
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 18: Oh well, yeah, that's not just the aim, but also

1229
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,959
Speaker 18: to highlight New Zealanders that the government's not taking action

1230
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 18: on the cost of loving.

1231
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 3: Okay, I thought I thought it was the point of

1232
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 3: Question Time to get under the skin of the opposition.

1233
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 15: I think that too, But there is a greater point

1234
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 15: as well.

1235
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 3: Okay, do you think do you think Mark she got

1236
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 3: under try and be a political about this. Nicola had

1237
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 3: a bit of a gas. Yeah. No, but Nicola had

1238
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 3: a bit of like if you were watching it, by

1239
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 3: the time she was ready to hit someone, wasn't she.

1240
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,439
Speaker 7: Well, firstly, i'd say Nicholas got a very tough skinn

1241
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 7: been a finance minister in New Zealand.

1242
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 3: You have to have that.

1243
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 7: It's a prerequisite. Number two. I wasn't actually in the

1244
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 7: house yesterday because I was at the funeral of one

1245
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,479
Speaker 7: of the people that we lost at the Mount.

1246
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 3: Well, have a look at question time and see because

1247
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 3: I'm interested because it's election year and that's I mean,

1248
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 3: you would agree with us generally though, wouldn't you. Mark

1249
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 3: The point of question time is it gives the side

1250
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 3: a bit of fizz. In other words, you know you

1251
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 3: you're geed up if you have a good question time.

1252
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 3: Labors jewed up if they have a good question time,

1253
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 3: well you're a follower of it.

1254
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 7: And I have to say that most people, if they're

1255
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 7: going to have a look at Parliament TV, they will

1256
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 7: have a look at question time and I think that

1257
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 7: I think you've you've got the ability to be able

1258
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 7: to figure out through body language and questions and all

1259
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 7: the rest of it, whether there's a good line of

1260
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 7: questioning at the end of the day. It's when I

1261
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 7: was in opposition, it's a really important part for opposition

1262
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 7: to have to hold the government to account. So yeah,

1263
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 7: it's an important part of our democracy. But talking about democracy,

1264
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 7: but I just wanted to share a thought with you

1265
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 7: as we come into the election this year. No, here

1266
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 7: we go, I took schnauzers here and I took out

1267
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 7: little schnauzers for a walk on the beach this morning.

1268
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 7: I was thinking back to the campaign in twenty eleven. Well,

1269
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 7: the on the come home, No, we let them off

1270
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 7: there on the leash for when we got to get

1271
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 7: the end, then off they have a good run around.

1272
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 3: Well what are the poo begs? We have our pooh bags,

1273
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 3: but what are the signs being on the leash? Off

1274
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 3: the leash off?

1275
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 7: The less that time warning. But anyway, the twenty eleven campaign,

1276
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 7: i'd come back from overseas, I'd been involved in delivering

1277
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 7: the elections in a art for the first time. We

1278
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 7: are candidates over their set roadside bombs and blew each

1279
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 7: other up. And I came home and the biggest story

1280
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 7: we had running was the teapot tapes.

1281
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,919
Speaker 3: Remember the teapot very much so, and some key down

1282
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 3: a new market at the cafe.

1283
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 7: It's good to be home made. I thought, it's good

1284
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 7: before we can talk, And.

1285
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 3: That's a very good point. Actually, I've been thinking about

1286
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 3: that lately. I've been thinking about it lately because at

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Speaker 3: the moment we're fascinated with things that are bursting into flames.

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Speaker 3: So if you followed the media, there was a car

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Speaker 3: on an off ramp that burst into flames. The school

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Speaker 3: obviously in Tapa was sad, but it was just bursting

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Speaker 3: into flames. There was a bus on flames, and that

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking, ultimately, though, in a world that's falling apart

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Speaker 3: at a rate of knots, if you can talk about

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Speaker 3: a car on an off ramp as a headline, then

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Speaker 3: it's kind of sad. But you know what I mean, No,

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Speaker 3: I agree that.

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Speaker 7: So that's my point exactly, is that we live in paradise.

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Speaker 7: Actually we're checking in the right direction. We're doing really

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Speaker 7: well as a country, and we should stop and take

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Speaker 7: a brief and say, you know what, we're bloody lucky

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Speaker 7: to live in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Campaign, We're bloody lucky to be in New Zealand. Vote National.

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Speaker 18: I think though, that it's interesting you say that about

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Speaker 18: christ Time, Mike, because I think it has really changed.

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Speaker 18: Like when I was first, you know, working in as

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Speaker 18: a political advisor back in the two thousands, question Time

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Speaker 18: always featured on the news every single night if there

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Speaker 18: was a bit sparky, and that's really changed.

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Speaker 15: Last night was a.

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Speaker 18: Bit of a rarity to have that texts featuring so

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Speaker 18: heavily and the news.

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Speaker 15: So what.

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Speaker 18: Those well, those little clips get used in social media,

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Speaker 18: So that's where it has changed, so that there's smaller

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Speaker 18: segments being used on things like Instagram or TikTok, and

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Speaker 18: that's where they're more widely viewed, and people watch that

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Speaker 18: more than they would do probably the way I.

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Speaker 3: Agree, and it is partly because the media doesn't value

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Speaker 3: the political process anymore, because they if you walk into

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Speaker 3: most newsrooms and go how about that debate, how about

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Speaker 3: that extreme today, they go, oh, no, that'll take too long.

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Speaker 3: It's a bit boring. No one's interested in that. There's

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Speaker 3: a car on fire and on off ramp, and.

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Speaker 7: Then well at all finis to our journalists, especially the

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Speaker 7: ones in the press gallery, is there's so much pressure

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Speaker 7: on them now with a clickbait twenty four hour cycle,

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Speaker 7: get something up that's going to get the maximum amount

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Speaker 7: of eyes reading it, which sort of pushes them away

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Speaker 7: from doing any real in depth type stuff and actually

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Speaker 7: pulling the layers back and doing some agree with that,

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Speaker 7: you know, some balance journalism.

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Speaker 3: I need draw breath, Jinny, because I need to ask

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Speaker 3: you about Kushler and Willie and floral rhetoric and what's

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Speaker 3: going on with the Murray party to stand by for that.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen past the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: On iHeartRadio powered by newstalksp.

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Speaker 3: News Talks sixteen past eight Jinny and Marker with us

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Speaker 3: Mark just quickly before I get to Ginny and the

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Speaker 3: Willie problem, that this retail group, the Sunny Thing. Are

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Speaker 3: you happy with the way it unfolded? I mean my

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Speaker 3: criticism would be you didn't need it. Sonny ended up

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Speaker 3: telling you a whole bunch of stuf up he'd already

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Speaker 3: told you. And on this I agree with Jenny. I mean, yes,

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Speaker 3: crimes come down. Yes, it's better than it was. Yes,

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Speaker 3: you've solved a problem partially, But what was the point

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Speaker 3: of all that?

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, number one, you can't question Sonny Kreshel's passionate.

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Speaker 3: Crime, but it does mean you appoint him to anything.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can't know, but we can't criticize my

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Speaker 3: passion either. But I haven't got a job for the government.

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Speaker 17: No.

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Speaker 7: But but we wanted to give so, you know, Carolyn

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Speaker 7: is for the beginning of town, right, the guys that

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Speaker 7: have got multimillion dollar budgets to deal with loss prevention,

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Speaker 7: all that sort of stuff. We wanted to focus in

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Speaker 7: on our semes, our small and medium sized businesses that

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Speaker 7: don't they've been doing it really tough. They've been running

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Speaker 7: on the margins, you know, And and he was He's

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Speaker 7: the guy that's really been a very strong voice for them.

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Speaker 7: So we wanted to make sure that we formalized that voice,

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Speaker 7: that we bought ford strong policy, which has happened, and

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Speaker 7: that we take that into the House and we start

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Speaker 7: to thing that in places.

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Speaker 3: You stand behind it. It was a success, It was

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Speaker 3: a good idea. It worked well. Absolutely agree.

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Speaker 15: Well, it hasn't been as.

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Speaker 18: Been a rolling a rolling wall of stories that are

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Speaker 18: negative for the government. So if I if I was

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Speaker 18: the minister, I wouldn't have appointed him, but he was appointed.

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Speaker 18: I think it was a political appointment that completely backfired

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Speaker 18: on the government and they wasted millions of dollars nine

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Speaker 18: hundred dollars a day let me finish, please, nine hundred

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Speaker 18: dollars a day, a flash office, a whole lot of

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Speaker 18: catering for zero outcomes. And you've got someone with real

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Speaker 18: skin in the game, Carolyn Young, who walks away because

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Speaker 18: she can't work with it.

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Speaker 15: So this is very This is very I think it.

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Speaker 18: Has been a real labor for the government and that's

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Speaker 18: why they've pulled the plug on it early.

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Speaker 15: It's really failed.

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Speaker 7: So this is very interesting. Labor were an abject failure

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Speaker 7: and looking after our small businesses when they're in government, right,

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Speaker 7: Sunny COWSHL has done more, engaged with more meetings, more

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Speaker 7: feedback take and represented and brought forward the policies that

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Speaker 7: they want that were completely totally missing in the previous government.

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Speaker 7: And they're still out there criticizing him for going out

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Speaker 7: and engaging with the very people that have been on

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Speaker 7: the front lines and have been subjected to the violent

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Speaker 7: retail crime that we're trying to purge policy in government.

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Speaker 18: The only policy has been advised by your own police.

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Speaker 18: By in their police said that they were dangerous, they

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Speaker 18: would result in citizens being heard.

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Speaker 3: It's not true.

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Speaker 18: Is true that that is dangerous and people there will

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Speaker 18: be risk to loss of life if those measures.

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Speaker 3: Are line in the sand here Kushler and Willie. Is

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Speaker 3: this going to be a problem, Jinny. If they're going

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Speaker 3: to go out saying, hey, we're keen to work on

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Speaker 3: the Marory party and we can't wait to work with

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Speaker 3: the married party, why are they saying what they're saying

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Speaker 3: and is this trouble?

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Speaker 15: I don't think that's what they've said.

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Speaker 18: We've made it very clear that party Marty needs to

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Speaker 18: sort themselves out before there fit for government. And we'll

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Speaker 18: say closer to the election who we will be working

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Speaker 18: with everyone, can I finish?

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Speaker 15: Please?

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Speaker 2: Mate?

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Speaker 18: Everyone in opposition and quite honestly, quite a few New

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Speaker 18: Zealanders want to get this government out and so that's

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Speaker 18: a fair call.

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Speaker 7: Lord, New Zealanders want this government. And but the only

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Speaker 7: thing I'd say is up and whiting is they look

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Speaker 7: so confused Jenny last week saying you know, we're not

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Speaker 7: going to work with them. Then you've got other members

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Speaker 7: coming out and say, no, we're working with them, we're

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Speaker 7: collaborating with them, and then you've got it.

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Speaker 3: Why it's why it's mixed messaging. And Hapkin is going

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Speaker 3: to have to get on top of this because if

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Speaker 3: Willy's going to shoot his mouth off, and of course

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Speaker 3: any time they want, then everyone's going to get confused.

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Speaker 3: And that's not the message you want, is it.

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Speaker 18: We've made it clear that they need to sort themselves

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Speaker 18: out before fit for government, and we will make it

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Speaker 18: clear before the election who we will be working with.

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Speaker 7: Okay, well you guys need to have an urgent meeting

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Speaker 7: to sort out what you're saying, because.

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Speaker 15: You're to sort out your guest text mark because we

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Speaker 15: don't have.

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Speaker 3: Is it a levy? See that was funny on the

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Speaker 3: people that are delivering it.

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Speaker 7: Because of Labour's terrible energy policies, power price has gone.

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Speaker 3: Through the roof. That's true, all Wall, what you did,

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Speaker 3: you're a complete Can I just ask a quick question

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Speaker 3: of both of you. Have either of you received your

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Speaker 3: cherries from Mike Casey and Central Otaga the electric cherries?

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Speaker 7: Yes, that's a good question. I haven't been in the office.

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Speaker 3: Okay, have you have you eaten any Jinny?

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Speaker 15: And I put them on my content?

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Speaker 3: Are they superb or are they superb? And they would

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Speaker 3: they would delivered. So he's the electric kit thing Mark,

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Speaker 3: he's the electric guy, right, so he drive an electric

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Speaker 3: truck up the country. He's delivered cherries to every single

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Speaker 3: MP in the house.

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Speaker 7: Yep, good, I love cheeries. I don't know if I

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Speaker 7: don't know if you will be left by the time

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Speaker 7: I get back to the office.

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Speaker 3: But wait and see. Well, I wish you the best.

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Speaker 3: Do you reckon yours with thirty twos or thirty four's? Ginny,

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Speaker 3: what's that size? Wise?

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Speaker 10: Me?

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Speaker 3: Were they big ones? It's election campaign going to be

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 15: You need to know a decent sized cherry.

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Speaker 3: That's good. Nice to see you guys, will yeah, have

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Speaker 3: a good one. Make Mitchell and Jenny Anderson eight twenty two.

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Speaker 2: The Mike Hocking breakfast with the Defender and use.

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Speaker 3: Togs env Now there's a moment, of course, on any

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Speaker 3: New Zealand road we've all been there when you know

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01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 3: when the vehicle belongs there, right, surface changes where the

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01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 3: moves in the road asks a little bit more of you.

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Speaker 3: This is why you've got to be behind the wheel

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Speaker 3: of the Defender, of course, because the Defender feels right

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Speaker 3: at home. It is designed specifically for this environment. Defender's capability.

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Speaker 3: It works seamlessly in the background. It adapts to that terrain,

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Speaker 3: so you can maintain total control whether that surface is

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01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 3: sealed or loose, or steep or soaked. After a sudden

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Speaker 3: downpoor you stay focused on that journey, not the challenge,

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01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 3: so it keeps you calm and composed and confident, whether

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Speaker 3: you're navigating those rugged Elpint passes or the remote coastal

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Speaker 3: tracks or even the road back to town. That is

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Speaker 3: the true strength of the Defenders. Design a vehicle that's

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Speaker 3: just as comfortable in the wild as it is in

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Speaker 3: everyday life, refined when it matters, uncompromising when it counts now.

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Speaker 3: It's not chasing the past. The Defender. It's a living

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01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 3: symbol of capability, shaped and how New Zealanders we actually

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Speaker 3: live and travel every day. And once you're behind the wheel,

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Speaker 3: it just well, it just makes sense. Defender, Embrace the impossible.

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01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:23,719
Speaker 3: Visit your local Defender retailer today, Hski Mike Gold thirty

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01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 3: two or thirty four. Indeed, election campaign going to be

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01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:32,719
Speaker 3: like that, to come on twelve C. What she thought

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01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 3: I'd asked was her cup size when we were talking

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Speaker 3: about cherries. Now, how you go from cherries to a

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01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 3: cup size? I got no, but no idea. Sometimes the show,

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Speaker 3: you know, Mike's supporting failing activities with taxpayer money is

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Speaker 3: a Labor mode of operating. Go figure, yeah, this goes

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Speaker 3: back to the to the business of the fashion show,

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Speaker 3: which has been buught a by taxpayer money. I thought

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Speaker 3: the event's money was four new events. Now the fashion

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01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 3: shows fifteen years old. It's already on and we already

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01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 3: go or don't go. It's already a thing. I don't

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01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 3: know why we need money pumped into something that already

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Speaker 3: happens here. Bring me the state of origin, bring me

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Speaker 3: the f one, bring me a concert and get into it.

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01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 3: I bet you that come election time Mike Label will

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Speaker 3: announce it. The Marory Party have sorted themselves out in

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Speaker 3: the fit for government that may well begin. That may

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Speaker 3: well be the case, and they're allowed to do that.

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Speaker 3: That's why we have elections. So my challenge to the

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Speaker 3: Labor Party would be to go Yip, We'll work with

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Speaker 3: the Greens, and Yip will work with the Maori Party

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01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 3: and when they say that that is the beginning and

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Speaker 3: the middle in the end of their trajectory in twenty

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01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 3: twenty six to another three years in opposition because there's

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Speaker 3: no way that combination is going to be voted for.

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Speaker 3: News is next, and then to Australia and Steve.

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Speaker 1: Tough on Power Sharp on inside the my casting Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential, commercial and rule.

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Speaker 2: News togsad be.

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Speaker 3: He didn't raise it because we didn't have time in

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Speaker 3: the half hour. But the Jones yesterday Shane is going

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01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 3: to be campaigning on I think I probably tend to

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01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 3: agree with them, but then again the counter is quite

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01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 3: quite easy to argue. So fast Track National back down

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Speaker 3: on that. There was a huge amount of feedback. Ministers

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01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 3: were going to get the final say, so, in other words,

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01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 3: you apply for your fast Track project, the panel, the

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01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 3: expert panel goes yes, no, whatever goes to the minister.

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01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 3: Minister has final say. That seemed to be fine until

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01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 3: everyone started moaning about it and the National Party backed

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01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 3: down on it and they said, well, minister won't have

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01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 3: final say And Jones has decided that New Zealand first

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01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 3: is going to campaign on this, and I think he's

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01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 3: on the right side of it. I don't think it

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01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 3: swings an election. No, it's changing your vote because of

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01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 3: that particular policy. But if you're going to fast track,

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01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 3: and we've already seen the fast track, the sand mining

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01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 3: in New Plymouth has been turned down and there's nothing

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01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 3: they can do about it. So it's a fast track

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01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 3: to a no, which seems to be counterintuitive to what

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01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 3: they're actually trying to achieve. So are we into that?

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01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 3: Is that minister counterbeing you get a nut job, you

1533
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 3: get a bad government, you get some crazies, then the

1534
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 3: minister's got all the power and then you can do

1535
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 3: some untold damage. So what do you reckon?

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Speaker 13: Twenty two to nine International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance,

1537
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 13: Peace of Mind for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 3: See prison with Friday morning mate, Very good morning. So

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01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 3: resignation today, vote on Friday? Is that how it's going

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01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 3: to unfold?

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01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 17: Well logistically perhaps, but they're all in Canberra Parliament sitting

1542
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 17: so they have to move today. So what happens under

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01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 17: the Liberal Party party room rules, You've got to get

1544
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 17: two people to call for a spill of leadership positions,

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01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 17: and then when that happens, you then call for a

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01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:41,959
Speaker 17: party meeting as soon as practicable, that would be Friday.

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01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 17: Susan Lee's not going to quit. She's going to go

1548
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 17: down fighting, she says. If they want her out, they're

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01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 17: going to blast her out. So who's the candidate? Angus

1550
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 17: Taylor currently shadowed Defense She used to be shadowed Treasurer

1551
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 17: Rhodes Scholar, a good looking bloke. But is he the

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01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 17: answer for the Liberal Party? Well, even supporters of his

1553
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 17: are not quite sure. The numbers are being done. He's

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01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 17: from the conservative or conservative faction. The moderates have got

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01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 17: to be convinced to put some of their boats into

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01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 17: his basket. Will they do that, We're not sure. So

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01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 17: in chimes our old mate Malcolm Turnbull, the worst Liberal

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01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 17: prime minister in living memory, who managed to give away

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01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 17: fourteen seats that Tony Abbott won and reduce it to

1560
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 17: a majority of one. He said, you should do what

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Speaker 17: I did, and what he demanded when they came after

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01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 17: him for the leadership, he wanted a petition signed by

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01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 17: everyone before there could be a party with meeting. That

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01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 17: means you can then identify who's going to knipe you

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01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 17: in the back and who isn't They don't have to

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01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,759
Speaker 17: do that, but some people are suggesting Susan Lee should

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Speaker 17: go down that track, including good old Malcolm Turnbull himself.

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Speaker 17: We'll wait and see. Can I just put one caveat

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01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 17: on all the A conservative commentator I spoke to off

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01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 17: here last night said he has the feeling and has

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01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 17: some intel that Angus Taylor might back out at the

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01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 17: last minute, not even challenge.

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Speaker 3: Oooh interesting, Well, I watched with a great deal of

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01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 3: interest today those protests and the videos against the backdrop

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01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 3: of Hurtzog and against the backdrop of the protest is

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01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 3: being told under New South Wales rules and laws not

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01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:18,679
Speaker 3: to do what they did. What's the poll say as

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01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 3: to whether the police went ott on it?

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Speaker 17: And against the backdrop of six weeks ago fifteen innocent

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Speaker 17: people got slaughtered on by by beach. The police are

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01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 17: defending himself quite expectedly. The problem is everyone's got a phone,

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01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 17: and so when everyone's got a phone, you get all

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01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 17: these ten second grabs that go up on YouTube with

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01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 17: no context. Now, the one you would have seen, probably

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01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 17: and the one you're probably referring to, is two police officers,

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01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 17: young man on the ground, one arm restrained behind his back.

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01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 17: They're desperately trying to get the other arm and so

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01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 17: they are kidney punching him to get the arm back around. Well,

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01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,839
Speaker 17: he's now been charged with biting one of those police officers,

1590
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 17: the thumb drawing blood. Now, if you're a police officer

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01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 17: trying to do your job in front of a federal

1592
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 17: crowd of protesters are all going nuts and one of

1593
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 17: them bites you, what are you supposed to do? I mean?

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Speaker 17: And then we have exaggeration like you know, we've had

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01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 17: this great team who was Australian of the Year screaming

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Speaker 17: out from Gaddergill to Gaza, let's spread the infotata. I mean,

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Speaker 17: that is just ridiculous and so this course for her

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01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 17: to be stripped to that, but that just stirred the

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01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 17: crowd up even more and it's an ugly scene and

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Speaker 17: it will be repeated in Melbourne on Thursday. And you

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01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 17: know what Melbourne's like when it comes to protest for.

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Speaker 3: Ye, hold on, no, this was men's in New South

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Speaker 3: Wales with his laws? What are the rules in Victoria?

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01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 3: And are they beefing the maperia?

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01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:50,600
Speaker 17: But liberal for that, well, there's no permit system in

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01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 17: Victoria for a start, there is in New South Wales,

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Speaker 17: and that allowed the New South Wales police to stop

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01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 17: the marches marching from where they were at town Hall

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01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 17: down to State Parliament. It's free for all in Victoria.

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01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 17: You do have hate speech laws, but we've seen nobody

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01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 17: arrested for screaming out those sorts of praises Rive of

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01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 17: the Sea, and so there'll be a huge cab. I mean,

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01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,839
Speaker 17: anyone thinking that I'm being pro police an anti protest.

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01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 17: There were six thousand protesters against five hundred police. I

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01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 17: mean that stat should tell you something.

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01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 3: Exactly when they nominated Grace came to be Australian of

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01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 3: the Year, did anyone do a Google search on what

1618
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 3: she might turn out to be a Liberal government by

1619
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 3: the way, under Protister Scott Morrison.

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Speaker 17: And then she had a horrible, horrible young childhood and

1621
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 17: was molested and no one can take that away from her.

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01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 17: But since having been elevated to that position, she used

1623
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 17: it for various causes, and that for that episode the

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01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 17: other night was very unsay.

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01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just she's ruined the award as far as

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01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 3: I can work out, And I mean her background Australians

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01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 3: of the Year. I would have thought the argument goes

1628
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 3: that you've been bestoted with one of the highest honors

1629
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:07,839
Speaker 3: you can get. That requires a certain element of behavior,

1630
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 3: whether you want to or not. You know, there's an

1631
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 3: expectation on you, isn't there? Or am I just making

1632
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 3: that up?

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01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 8: Yes?

1634
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 17: Correct, But he's a funny piece of trivia for you

1635
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 17: that you can spread around New Zealand today. Remember the

1636
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 17: great Steve Irwin. He was nominated for Australian of the Year.

1637
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 17: He was Queenslander of the Year. They do it state

1638
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 17: by state and then they have the Australian the Year award.

1639
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 17: He was nominated. But during between the nomination and the

1640
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 17: Australia of the Year award, Steve was famously pictured holding

1641
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:36,640
Speaker 17: his young son who's now a global start, in his

1642
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 17: arms while feeding a crocodile, and they took his Australia

1643
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 17: of the Year nomination of him. Your speech speech.

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01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,600
Speaker 3: Well what do you do? I'm glad you raised the

1645
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 3: Bunnings thing. I followed this with a great deal of

1646
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 3: interest because they overturned the decision from the Privacy Commissioner

1647
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 3: successfully and this is the facial recognition. I can't for

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01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 3: the life of me give and I I'm irregular at Bunnings,

1649
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 3: and I don't steal from Bunnings. And therefore, if they

1650
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 3: want to film me buying a whipper snipper, they're more

1651
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:08,759
Speaker 3: than entitled to do so. And if they can film

1652
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,839
Speaker 3: some people who are stealing, then more power to them.

1653
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 17: Correct they entered the Federal Court to get that overturned.

1654
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 17: I had the Australian managing director of Bunnings on the

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01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 17: TV show last night and he I, like you, just

1656
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 17: then nearly fell off my chair when he told me

1657
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 17: that last year, in the last quarter of twenty twenty five,

1658
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 17: they were spending five hundred thousand dollars a month on

1659
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 17: security just to have security guards and premises, the facial

1660
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 17: recognition cameras. They're still trying to work out how to

1661
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 17: do it aur wise they'll go up shortly like you,

1662
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 17: I don't care if they take my picture. But remember

1663
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 17: and he told me that two thirds of the workforce

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01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 17: at Bunnings in Australia aged over fifty, many of them women.

1665
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 17: And when you see the pictures that Bunnings released last

1666
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:56,799
Speaker 17: year of violent acts on their staff in their stores,

1667
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 17: you can see why they went to the trouble of

1668
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,839
Speaker 17: trying to get these cameras installed. I mean, if someone's

1669
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 17: running in there and trying to grab a chainsaw off

1670
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 17: the shelf and leaving, well you can't. You can't attack

1671
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 17: them if you're a staff member. But if it's on camera,

1672
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 17: we'll give it to the police and let them do

1673
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:11,679
Speaker 17: their job.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't agree more. Hey, the WSI, the Western Sydney Airport.

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01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:19,640
Speaker 3: This opens in October. When I land there, because in

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01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 3: New Zealand, are one of the first clients. How far

1677
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 3: am I driving to the city.

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01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 17: In New Zealand, are one of the only clients. I

1679
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 17: think that three airlines have signed up. Well, you won't

1680
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 17: be flying there. You wouldn't go there in a fit

1681
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 17: unless you had unless you had an appointment in far

1682
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 17: flung Penrith at the bottom of the Blue Mountains. Are

1683
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 17: you about forty kilometers out of Sydney?

1684
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 3: Why would why would signed up there? What's the point

1685
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Speaker 3: of it?

1686
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 17: I can tell you exactly what the point of it is.

1687
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 17: They believe that a lot of tourist traffic, particularly from

1688
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 17: people who live in Western Sydney who are of islander background,

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01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 17: we'll use that airport on a regular basis because it

1690
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 17: will be closer to their homes when they want to

1691
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 17: go back home to Samoa or one of those places.

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01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 3: All go, well, we'll see you next week. Appreciate I've

1693
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 3: got more on this with the Sydney because it's going

1694
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 3: to materially affect us in just a moment. Steve Price

1695
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 3: fourteen to two.

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1697
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Speaker 3: Be Mike, I thought the whole point of the new

1699
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 3: Western Sydney Airport was to due to the time restrictions

1700
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 3: on when they can fly. Why on earth with the

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01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 3: New Zealand sign up to fly there when the majority

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01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 3: of our flights are not after these restricted hours. Anyway,

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01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 3: who in their right mind wants to travel for to

1704
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,680
Speaker 3: codes there? I agree, it's not the distance. I mean,

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01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 3: it is the distance, but it's the time and the

1706
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 3: advantage of kingswood Smith is it's comparatively speaking, very acceptable

1707
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 3: time wise to the city anyway. So Steve's sort of

1708
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 3: right in New Zealand's one of the few clients who

1709
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 3: has signed up along with Singapore Jetstar. What I read

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01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 3: yesterday that worried me is budget airlines are considered the

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Speaker 3: most likely to put on flights to the new airport.

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Speaker 3: So is in New Zealand now considering themselves a budget airline,

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01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:03,679
Speaker 3: and they're going to fly from that airport to Auckland.

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01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 3: Quantas are going to park their freighter aircraft in and

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01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 3: out there, So I can understand that part. So an

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01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 3: airport where that side of the equation doesn't matter. If

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01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 3: you had a lot of freight going in and out,

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01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 3: maybe that's convenient for you, you get more slots. I

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01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,680
Speaker 3: don't know anyway, the point being, it doesn't seem to

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01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 3: be a thing where the whole world's landing and traveling to.

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01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 3: Why are we And if all of a sudden, your

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01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:25,799
Speaker 3: flight from New Zealand to Sydney isn't really in Sydney,

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01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 3: it's out west of Sydney, miles away from town, which

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01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 3: is where most tourists want to go. Is that not

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01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 3: going to be a new and potentially growing problem nine

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01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:36,759
Speaker 3: away from nine.

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Speaker 1: It's not Mike Costing Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate news Dogs.

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01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 3: There'd be Mike Singapore Airlines, not a budget ealine. That

1729
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 3: is true for anyone wanting to arrive in Sydney and

1730
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 3: then head north or south. It might be quite convenient.

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01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:49,680
Speaker 3: When I drive to the mid coast it takes me

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01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:51,680
Speaker 3: about an hour or but no one drives to the

1733
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 3: mid coast. When was the last time he said, well,

1734
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 3: where are you going for the weekend? Well, I'm going

1735
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 3: to Sydney. A lot of people say I'm going to Sydney.

1736
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 3: The don't go, well, I'm going to the mid coast,

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01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 3: do they? Mike Clas suggest Air new Zealand will run

1738
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 3: a mixed model A three twenty or smaller west wide

1739
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 3: body into Kingsford Smith I checked the other day. Funnily enough,

1740
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 3: for another matter, I was looking to go to Sydney

1741
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 3: for a day and I was surprised at one they

1742
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 3: don't fight. I didn't think Air new Zealand flies wide

1743
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 3: bodies into Sydney. They'll fly their A three twenties. They're

1744
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 3: bigger planes. They fly into Melbourne. For some reason, I

1745
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 3: was also astonished to find, and it might have been

1746
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 3: me and my technical ineptness, but it appeared to me

1747
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 3: to be on a Saturday, Air new Zealand has a

1748
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 3: singular flight to Sydney when quantas have five and I'm thinking, well,

1749
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 3: how's that possible? What's going on there. If the demand

1750
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 3: is there for six or seven flights a day, why

1751
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 3: is he in New Zealand not working a bit harder

1752
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 3: at that particular route. I may have got it wrong,

1753
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 3: and I am open to you know, being a technical

1754
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 3: ludye ah, I find they're hard to believe. I know

1755
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 3: I was going to tell you about Brimworth and this merger,

1756
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 3: but I don't have time to do that. I might

1757
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 3: have to wait till tomorrow. The Commerce Commission's got I

1758
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 3: just can't see it going ahead anyway. They struck a

1759
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 3: bit of trouble, So if I get time tomorrow, we'll

1760
01:25:57,640 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 3: do that. Five minutes away from nine.

1761
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 2: Trending now with Chemist Warehouse, stop paying too much? Now?

1762
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 3: This is a trailer that I watched maybe three, four, five,

1763
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 3: six days ago. Is this the same trailer? It's the

1764
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 3: crappiest trailer river It's absolute crap. I couldn't believe it

1765
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 3: because the movie was brilliant. I love the movie. This

1766
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 3: is a trailer for the sequel, and I thought, cool,

1767
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:25,600
Speaker 3: this is good. The trailer is rubbish anyway. It's twentieth

1768
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 3: century Foxes, as it turns out, most successful movie trailer

1769
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 3: in its history. I suspect because it's full of people

1770
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 3: like me watching it, going, oh my god, this is

1771
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 3: going to be amazing, and yet it isn't.

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01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 24: Listen Runway, it's not just a magazine, it's a global

1773
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 24: I can't a winding road that brings us back.

1774
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 3: Together again?

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01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 13: Hello? Wow?

1776
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 3: Look what TJ Lastray Dean?

1777
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 17: Sorry?

1778
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 20: Who is this?

1779
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 22: Do you know her?

1780
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 10: Do I know her?

1781
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 15: I'm Andy Sachs.

1782
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 2: Where would you like to start?

1783
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 15: I am the New Futures editor right, ay, no you

1784
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 15: are not.

1785
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're also thrilled.

1786
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 1: What's funny is you've changed?

1787
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:19,640
Speaker 2: You have You're much more confident.

1788
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 15: Kept those eyebrows though, didn't you?

1789
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 10: So?

1790
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 2: It is.

1791
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 3: Meryl Streep and Hathaway, Emily Blunt, Stanley Tucci, they're all back.

1792
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 3: You can't miss Tucci's voice, isn't it Devils Prada and

1793
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 3: it's it's even worse when you see it. It's pretty

1794
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 3: bad when you hear it. It's even worse when you

1795
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 3: see it. You think, honestly, you think, is that it?

1796
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 3: There was one good line? Who are you?

1797
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 21: I thought the eyebrows thing was quite a good It

1798
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 21: was all right slim.

1799
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 3: Anyway, it's in Cinema's May One and in the first

1800
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 3: twenty four hours break the record two hundred twenty two

1801
01:27:56,760 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 3: million views, including one by me Sucked and good. Over

1802
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 3: all the record for the biggest trailer of all time,

1803
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:04,680
Speaker 3: not just twenty centuries the dead Pool Wolverine, which was

1804
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 3: three hundred and sixty five million and twenty four hours.

1805
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 21: But the cool thing about that is that is just

1806
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 21: a trailer made for the trailer's sake, with the Deadpool one,

1807
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 21: and that doesn't actually feature any of the stuff that

1808
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 21: happens in the movie.

1809
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 3: Surely, yeah, yeah, yeah, does all the stuff happen in

1810
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:21,559
Speaker 3: the movie? Because for Prata, I think we've seen all

1811
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 3: the good bits from the moon.

1812
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 21: Think that's interesting about this whole long time between sequels thing,

1813
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 21: isn't it. We had you know, you've got the night

1814
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 21: manager for ten years between the two seasons and now

1815
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 21: twenty years since the last Devil we brad incredible line.

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01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 3: The good thing about our show is there's very little

1817
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 3: time between sequels. About twenty four hours and we're back

1818
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 3: tomorrow morning from six There's always Happy Days.

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01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,519
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1820
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:50,719
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