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Speaker 1: Caine Williamson as I'm sure you're well where by now

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Speaker 1: stepping down as captain, turn down a heavyweight contract for

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Speaker 1: a casual one, is going to look for some income

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Speaker 1: in those overseas T twenty leagues next year. Now the

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Speaker 1: Players Association boss Heath Mills is with us on this morning, mate,

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Mike. Is this bolt but better handled? Sort of?

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Speaker 2: Possibly? Yes, I think that's fair to say. I think

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Speaker 2: when Trent first he accepted the contract a couple of

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Speaker 2: years ago and then had the opportunity to go and

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Speaker 2: play in the Ilt League and the UAE, and that

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Speaker 2: was pretty new, it probably not handled that well by

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Speaker 2: all of us. But we're now really have a good

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Speaker 2: system in place, I think where we have a casual

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Speaker 2: international playing agreement and you know caters for the situation

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Speaker 2: where some of our players are very compelling, you know,

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Speaker 2: players for overseas leagues and T twenty leagues and we've

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Speaker 2: got the opportunity now for them to go and play

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Speaker 2: in these leagues. But we'll still play for New Zealok.

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Speaker 1: For if you're a Kane Williamson, why wouldn't you need

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Speaker 1: to set your family up? And if there's money in

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Speaker 1: India or the Caribbean whatever, then go.

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Speaker 2: For them absolutely right. I mean as well we all

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Speaker 2: over the world where you know, we all need to

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Speaker 2: pay the bills and in our players that have huge

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Speaker 2: opportunities now. And I think part of this issue that

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Speaker 2: we have as stems from the fact that there's there's

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Speaker 2: not a coherent global schedule. We have international cricket colliding

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Speaker 2: with franchise T twenty cricket all around the world now

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Speaker 2: because the national boards haven't come together in the Greeder

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Speaker 2: program that made sense where you had windows for T

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Speaker 2: twenty leagues or windows for international cricket. So this is

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Speaker 2: just a symptom of that bigger problem. And we saw

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Speaker 2: it last year when the South African side since the

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Speaker 2: best players stayed at home to prioritize playing in their

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Speaker 2: T twenty CMP rather than come here and play a

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Speaker 2: two series in New Zealand. So that's a bigger problem

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Speaker 2: at play here.

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Speaker 1: I've got I've got tremidia sympathy for your argument. It's

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Speaker 1: sort of like North South rugby as well. But when

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Speaker 1: you're dealing with millionaires who own stuff, they will do

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Speaker 1: it the way they couldn't give them monkeys about you,

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Speaker 1: heath or anything. Else apart from their own competition.

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Speaker 2: I do feel that at times might don't worry. But

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Speaker 2: what I would say if it was that National boards though,

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Speaker 2: if you own and run a lot of these T

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Speaker 2: twenty competition is like the South African one other big

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Speaker 2: BESH league, So these are actually run by the national boards,

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Speaker 2: so they're actually competing with themselves, which is the first

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Speaker 2: thing about us where you have they're trying to run

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Speaker 2: a team eleven months of the year international program whilst

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Speaker 2: at same time playing TEA twenty franchise competitions, trying to

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Speaker 2: get the best players in the will to play them.

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Speaker 2: So until the issue, until they come together in a

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Speaker 2: greer program that makes sense his context and meaning his

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Speaker 2: room for both, then we're going to have players making

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Speaker 2: these sorts of decisions. And indeed, as we saw last year,

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Speaker 2: national boards sending effective b r C teams and play

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Speaker 2: international cricket. No one wins out of that.

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Speaker 1: No, that is true, Keith Heath go well, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Good catch up, Heath Mills You Zealand Cricket Players Association.

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