1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Tonight we have a special guest in town. Former All 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: Black Legends now mental health advocate, Sir John Kerwin is 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: at the flash Ash. This is for a free talk 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: on mental health and resilience. His mind matters and it's 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: thanks to the crew at Rural Support Trust and also 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: Westpac he may still be able to headlong. He didn't 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: need to register for this even though it's free. Just 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: get an idea of numbers. Jump on the Rural Support 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: Trust Facebook page to find some details. I was lucky 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: enough to catch up with JK and interesting start where 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: he didn't like to refer to mental health as well 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: being as such. His take is more performance key. 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: When I talk about performance, to talk about, you know, 14 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: how can you be a good dad or mum? How 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: he can be you know, a good worker, a good mate, 16 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: all those types of things. And I think it comes 17 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: back to your personal mental health care. So really into 18 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: the preventative mental health space now rather than the ambulance 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: to the bottom of the cliffs. You know. 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, a big time well top of mind pun intended. 21 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: Although we're sort of at the back of it now 22 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: carving and landing with our rural community. It's been it's 23 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: been busy times. 24 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, well you wouldn't let me near your farm mate, 25 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 2: you know, boy, I'd crash your track. 26 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: That would cause mental problems. 27 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would for the farmer, it certainly would. But 28 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 2: you know, it's one of the it's one of the 29 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: hardest industries, you know, in the world, farming. And although 30 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: I'm a city slicker, some of the things that I 31 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: share really resonate with the rural community. So why I 32 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: don't pretend to know anything about farming, doing a whole 33 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: lot about mental health. So it's really neat to be 34 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: able to get in with the with the community and 35 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: just give them a few pointers about how they can 36 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: look after themselves, you know. Yeah, so you know, and 37 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: I think the interesting thing about our farmers is the 38 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: beautifully stoic you know, when they get put under pressure, 39 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: they work harder. So if you were to ask a 40 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: psychiatrist about some of the things you shouldn't do, that 41 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: would be something farming would. 42 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: Be one of them. 43 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: Just the personality that goes with it, you know what 44 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: I mean. So have a few tips that you can 45 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: learn to make sure you don't, you know, fall into 46 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: those traps. 47 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: What's one life mentra in particular, you know, maybe along 48 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: that sort of vein about in a lot of cases, 49 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, with farming, you're just dealing with stuff that's 50 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: out of your control. How do you manage that? 51 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well I use what I call a worry map. Right, So, 52 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: when I was incredibly unwell, I had an amazing psychiatrist, 53 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: and you know, I still worry about all sorts of 54 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: stuff that I cannot couldn't control, but I didn't know 55 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: that at the time. So a worry map basically is 56 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: you write down what you can control, what you can't control, 57 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: what you can do, and what you can't do. And 58 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 2: the first time I put that down on a piece 59 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: of paper, I had about, you know, one hundred worries, 60 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: of which I could really only control about four of them. 61 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: So what happens is, you know, for example, let's use 62 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: a real simple one the weather. Can I control the weather? No? 63 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: You know, so I can't worry about the weather. But 64 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 2: what can I do about it? You know what I mean? 65 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 2: That's in my case, I didn't play well that well 66 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: on Saturday back in the day. You know, can I 67 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 2: control that? No? What can I do about it? Next week? Well? 68 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: I can turn up to early training, do some stretching. 69 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: Possibly could talk to the coach, but now they wouldn't 70 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: do that, you know. So there's things that you can 71 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,839 Speaker 2: control and can't control, you know. And I think once 72 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: you start doing a worry that then you start putting 73 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: your life into a little plan and then what can 74 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: I do? Gives you that little that little list that 75 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: you can actually action and then what happens when the 76 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: worry comes into your mind? The worry is still going 77 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: to come into your mind, but you put it through 78 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: that process. So well, I've got this plan in place 79 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: that really really helped me.