1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:13,067 Speaker 1: from newstalks'b been. 3 00:00:13,027 --> 00:00:17,227 Speaker 2: A chaotic opening day meantime of the first Ashes cricket 4 00:00:17,227 --> 00:00:21,467 Speaker 2: Test between Australia and England in Perth. Stokes, White of 5 00:00:21,507 --> 00:00:25,467 Speaker 2: the crease, gets him, just gets crickets when he's team 6 00:00:25,547 --> 00:00:30,547 Speaker 2: need and been Stokes cars takes the Cats and the England. 7 00:00:30,227 --> 00:00:32,867 Speaker 3: Captain as he softened ours delivers. 8 00:00:32,787 --> 00:00:38,147 Speaker 2: Exactly when England needs something edge as it carried. 9 00:00:38,467 --> 00:00:39,067 Speaker 3: They like it. 10 00:00:39,307 --> 00:00:43,147 Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, Harry Pork and it's five for the captain. 11 00:00:43,667 --> 00:00:46,707 Speaker 2: A huge statement from Ben Stokes on the opening day. 12 00:00:47,227 --> 00:00:51,307 Speaker 2: What a leader, what a man. Incredible first day nineteen 13 00:00:51,547 --> 00:00:54,787 Speaker 2: wickets falling the most on the first day of an 14 00:00:54,827 --> 00:00:59,707 Speaker 2: Ash's cricket Test since nineteen oh nine. England bundled out 15 00:00:59,707 --> 00:01:03,307 Speaker 2: for one hundred and seventy two, Mitchell Stark taking a 16 00:01:03,387 --> 00:01:07,187 Speaker 2: career best seven for fifty eight, but Australia could only 17 00:01:07,227 --> 00:01:10,707 Speaker 2: manage one hundred and twenty three for nine in reply 18 00:01:11,267 --> 00:01:15,027 Speaker 2: at stumps on day one day trail by forty nine runs. 19 00:01:15,507 --> 00:01:18,427 Speaker 2: Day two is underway in just over an hour from now. 20 00:01:18,467 --> 00:01:20,227 Speaker 2: It's a huge pleasure to welcome in one of the 21 00:01:20,227 --> 00:01:23,187 Speaker 2: true greats of English cricket and one of the game's 22 00:01:23,187 --> 00:01:26,467 Speaker 2: best ever all rounders. In one hundred and two Test 23 00:01:26,507 --> 00:01:30,107 Speaker 2: matches across fifteen years in the England side, Ian Botham 24 00:01:30,147 --> 00:01:34,467 Speaker 2: scored five two hundred runs, including fourteen centuries, took three 25 00:01:34,587 --> 00:01:37,587 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty three Test wickets along with one hundred 26 00:01:37,587 --> 00:01:40,627 Speaker 2: and twenty catches. But more than that, he defined English 27 00:01:40,707 --> 00:01:43,387 Speaker 2: cricket during his time in the side, and in nineteen 28 00:01:43,427 --> 00:01:47,147 Speaker 2: eighty one produced one of the most extraordinary performances in 29 00:01:47,187 --> 00:01:50,587 Speaker 2: the storied history of the Ashes, leading England to victory 30 00:01:50,627 --> 00:01:53,627 Speaker 2: with bat and ball. He was knighted in two thousand 31 00:01:53,667 --> 00:01:56,467 Speaker 2: and seven and in twenty twenty was appointed by the 32 00:01:56,467 --> 00:01:59,187 Speaker 2: Prime Minister to the House of Lords, so we now 33 00:01:59,267 --> 00:02:02,947 Speaker 2: know him as Lord Botham. Thanks for joining us, Lord Botham, 34 00:02:02,947 --> 00:02:04,787 Speaker 2: it's great to have you on the show. Let's start 35 00:02:04,827 --> 00:02:07,347 Speaker 2: with yesterday. What did you make of the start of 36 00:02:07,347 --> 00:02:10,867 Speaker 2: the Coronations Series? Nineteen wickets on the opening day. 37 00:02:11,707 --> 00:02:14,667 Speaker 3: Well, they always say that quick bowls, fast bowls and 38 00:02:14,707 --> 00:02:17,547 Speaker 3: good bowls win matches, and we've got five very good 39 00:02:17,547 --> 00:02:20,387 Speaker 3: bowls out there, and they're all around well from ninety 40 00:02:20,467 --> 00:02:24,267 Speaker 3: upwards miles per hour, so that showed yesterday in Australia 41 00:02:24,547 --> 00:02:25,667 Speaker 3: looked very uncomfortable. 42 00:02:26,467 --> 00:02:30,627 Speaker 2: Some of the batting from both sides actually was fairly ordinary. 43 00:02:30,667 --> 00:02:33,787 Speaker 2: Did you think there'd be a bit more discerning with 44 00:02:33,907 --> 00:02:36,787 Speaker 2: their shot selection both sides given it was day one 45 00:02:36,827 --> 00:02:38,427 Speaker 2: of the ashes. 46 00:02:38,707 --> 00:02:40,667 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think the Australian has got very many 47 00:02:41,387 --> 00:02:45,387 Speaker 3: bad shots. I think you're just bowled out and I 48 00:02:45,387 --> 00:02:47,387 Speaker 3: think that's the way. That's the way it's shaping. And 49 00:02:47,707 --> 00:02:50,147 Speaker 3: go to Brisbane next our day nights, so goodness knows 50 00:02:50,147 --> 00:02:53,747 Speaker 3: what will happen with that wicket. But no, look at 51 00:02:53,747 --> 00:02:58,387 Speaker 3: a very good day for England. They've got a decent read. 52 00:02:58,427 --> 00:03:01,067 Speaker 3: Things should provide the weather does interfere too much today, 53 00:03:01,587 --> 00:03:04,067 Speaker 3: but no, I think it's going to be exciting day 54 00:03:04,107 --> 00:03:06,307 Speaker 3: and almost wrap it up to the. 55 00:03:08,227 --> 00:03:10,947 Speaker 2: Well, it's quite possible. Ben Stokes didn't come to the 56 00:03:10,947 --> 00:03:14,307 Speaker 2: bowl increase until the twenty eighth over, but picked up 57 00:03:14,347 --> 00:03:17,267 Speaker 2: five for twenty three from six overs. Just as a 58 00:03:17,307 --> 00:03:20,627 Speaker 2: bowling captain, how do you know when it is the 59 00:03:20,707 --> 00:03:22,387 Speaker 2: right time to bring yourself on. 60 00:03:23,747 --> 00:03:26,027 Speaker 3: Well, I think he saved himself. He let his main 61 00:03:26,107 --> 00:03:30,427 Speaker 3: stroke bowlers go. They're all exceptional. Brydon cass I thought 62 00:03:30,507 --> 00:03:35,387 Speaker 3: looked fantastic. He aggressive in the face of the Australons 63 00:03:35,427 --> 00:03:37,827 Speaker 3: and you know, Josh for Archer just says to run 64 00:03:37,907 --> 00:03:41,867 Speaker 3: up and people start to shake in. So no, it's 65 00:03:41,867 --> 00:03:44,507 Speaker 3: a strong side this. You need to give credit not 66 00:03:45,307 --> 00:03:47,787 Speaker 3: saying bad shots and bad shots. What you needn't says 67 00:03:47,947 --> 00:03:50,147 Speaker 3: they only make those bad shots when they're under pressure. 68 00:03:50,427 --> 00:03:52,667 Speaker 3: We're not fancy it, And. 69 00:03:53,027 --> 00:03:56,467 Speaker 2: You're right, some terrific bowling, Josh for Archer. He debut 70 00:03:56,547 --> 00:03:59,667 Speaker 2: for England and Test cricket in twenty nineteen, but this 71 00:03:59,787 --> 00:04:02,827 Speaker 2: is only a sixteenth Test. He's thirty now, that picked 72 00:04:02,867 --> 00:04:06,147 Speaker 2: up both openers yesterday. Could he still forge you a 73 00:04:06,387 --> 00:04:08,827 Speaker 2: good teat Korea in his thirties for England? 74 00:04:08,947 --> 00:04:17,307 Speaker 3: Is a fast bowler Oho thirty not thirties? Yeah, but no, 75 00:04:17,827 --> 00:04:20,547 Speaker 3: he's if he stays fit, starming him have a massive 76 00:04:20,587 --> 00:04:23,067 Speaker 3: impact for probably the next four maybe five years. 77 00:04:23,987 --> 00:04:27,987 Speaker 2: Another test fifty yesterday for Harry Brook. Prodigious talents. How 78 00:04:28,027 --> 00:04:31,147 Speaker 2: good might he become? And he already is, but how 79 00:04:31,507 --> 00:04:33,667 Speaker 2: good might he be in all formats for England? 80 00:04:34,227 --> 00:04:38,907 Speaker 3: Well, he's refreshing, he has no fear. He backs himself 81 00:04:39,467 --> 00:04:42,787 Speaker 3: against whoever's bowling, doesn't matter who it is Mitchell Stark. 82 00:04:42,827 --> 00:04:44,547 Speaker 3: He charged him in the second ball and stacked it 83 00:04:44,627 --> 00:04:49,507 Speaker 3: for four. So look, he is a unique talent and 84 00:04:50,107 --> 00:04:52,707 Speaker 3: one that crowds are going to love to watch that 85 00:04:53,627 --> 00:04:56,387 Speaker 3: he is explosive and can win games very quickly. 86 00:04:57,627 --> 00:05:00,147 Speaker 2: Are you a fan of England's approach to Test cricket 87 00:05:00,227 --> 00:05:01,507 Speaker 2: under Brendan McCullum. 88 00:05:02,147 --> 00:05:04,147 Speaker 3: Well no, never. Look now it's seventy or eight two 89 00:05:04,227 --> 00:05:08,147 Speaker 3: runs we're ahead. I leave it with that. Let's have 90 00:05:08,187 --> 00:05:09,867 Speaker 3: a work for you know, if you're seventy or eighty 91 00:05:09,947 --> 00:05:12,187 Speaker 3: runs behind then we'd have a discussion. But at the 92 00:05:12,187 --> 00:05:15,227 Speaker 3: moment in the driving seat, very much so. 93 00:05:15,627 --> 00:05:17,547 Speaker 2: And I know there was a bit of check yep, sorry, 94 00:05:17,587 --> 00:05:17,947 Speaker 2: carry on. 95 00:05:18,627 --> 00:05:20,267 Speaker 3: No, it's going to say that that's because of the 96 00:05:20,307 --> 00:05:22,427 Speaker 3: aggressive way they played. And you know you can have 97 00:05:22,467 --> 00:05:25,747 Speaker 3: it always. People love it. Crowds are full, the highest 98 00:05:26,227 --> 00:05:29,147 Speaker 3: crowd that ever had here yesterday. It's going to be 99 00:05:29,267 --> 00:05:31,227 Speaker 3: like that all the way through this series. It's not 100 00:05:31,267 --> 00:05:32,747 Speaker 3: a series you want to go to sleep and because 101 00:05:32,787 --> 00:05:33,787 Speaker 3: things will change quickly. 102 00:05:34,427 --> 00:05:38,227 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I know there was some talk about about, 103 00:05:39,187 --> 00:05:41,387 Speaker 2: I guess a less than comprehensive build up for the 104 00:05:41,427 --> 00:05:43,507 Speaker 2: England side. Again, we look at yesterday and it doesn't 105 00:05:43,547 --> 00:05:45,627 Speaker 2: seem to be previcted them too much. Do you think 106 00:05:45,787 --> 00:05:47,547 Speaker 2: they might have given themselves a bit more of a 107 00:05:48,147 --> 00:05:50,907 Speaker 2: build up to the Ashes than the intersquad. 108 00:05:50,427 --> 00:05:52,827 Speaker 3: Match they had. Yeah, well, I think I went on 109 00:05:52,907 --> 00:05:55,747 Speaker 3: record as saying that, and I felt they needed more 110 00:05:55,787 --> 00:05:58,787 Speaker 3: time to put the build up. But we'll see. Look, 111 00:05:58,827 --> 00:06:00,387 Speaker 3: you know, I love it if they prove me wrong. 112 00:06:00,907 --> 00:06:04,347 Speaker 3: Happy days, very happy days. 113 00:06:05,147 --> 00:06:08,907 Speaker 2: You're his Korea remarkable. Don't know time to cover the 114 00:06:08,947 --> 00:06:10,547 Speaker 2: whole thing, but I did want to ask about nineteen 115 00:06:10,587 --> 00:06:14,827 Speaker 2: ninety one, that remarkable series. How often do you think 116 00:06:14,827 --> 00:06:15,747 Speaker 2: back to that summer? 117 00:06:16,667 --> 00:06:20,587 Speaker 3: No, as you guys that keep reminding me. No, I'm 118 00:06:20,707 --> 00:06:22,547 Speaker 3: actually I'm pretty relaxed that all that. I think it 119 00:06:22,587 --> 00:06:25,747 Speaker 3: was great. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the fact that 120 00:06:26,947 --> 00:06:31,467 Speaker 3: we turned people must must forget that England was intermoil 121 00:06:31,507 --> 00:06:33,347 Speaker 3: and a little bit as is at the moment, but 122 00:06:34,227 --> 00:06:37,227 Speaker 3: was in turmoil with we had the race riots, we 123 00:06:37,307 --> 00:06:41,427 Speaker 3: had the minors strike. Everything would possibly go wrong was 124 00:06:41,467 --> 00:06:44,387 Speaker 3: going wrong, and we happened to be the guys that 125 00:06:44,587 --> 00:06:47,507 Speaker 3: just suddenly turned the light on and gave everyone something 126 00:06:47,547 --> 00:06:50,187 Speaker 3: to look at. So look, at the end of the day, Yeah, 127 00:06:50,187 --> 00:06:52,667 Speaker 3: it was a great moment personally, but there's also great 128 00:06:52,667 --> 00:06:55,827 Speaker 3: moments from a great team, a very good team and 129 00:06:55,867 --> 00:06:59,427 Speaker 3: a very good team that hell theres high. You know, 130 00:06:59,467 --> 00:07:02,667 Speaker 3: we were written off yet again by our wonderful breast 131 00:07:03,227 --> 00:07:07,547 Speaker 3: and who continuously writes and writing off, and yet when 132 00:07:07,547 --> 00:07:10,347 Speaker 3: they actually start to well, I haven't seen the headlines today, 133 00:07:10,347 --> 00:07:12,107 Speaker 3: but I should think they mightn't be quite as severe 134 00:07:12,187 --> 00:07:14,307 Speaker 3: as they as they usually are. 135 00:07:15,467 --> 00:07:18,707 Speaker 2: Were they quite severe leading into yesterday before the series 136 00:07:18,747 --> 00:07:20,427 Speaker 2: even started, of. 137 00:07:20,387 --> 00:07:24,307 Speaker 3: Course they were? Would you expect they're English? 138 00:07:24,387 --> 00:07:24,507 Speaker 1: Well? 139 00:07:24,587 --> 00:07:27,147 Speaker 2: I just wanted to get confirmation. Really I suspected. I 140 00:07:27,227 --> 00:07:30,787 Speaker 2: suspect that they might be. But good to have the confirmation. Yeah, 141 00:07:30,787 --> 00:07:32,187 Speaker 2: well they might be quite they might be a lot 142 00:07:32,307 --> 00:07:35,027 Speaker 2: kinder today is just say we're looking at it. You 143 00:07:35,067 --> 00:07:36,267 Speaker 2: know you hope so, wouldn't you? 144 00:07:36,427 --> 00:07:36,507 Speaker 3: So? 145 00:07:36,627 --> 00:07:38,387 Speaker 2: Okay, So get in the final wicket and then get 146 00:07:38,427 --> 00:07:41,467 Speaker 2: back and what is it likely to be like on 147 00:07:41,547 --> 00:07:43,747 Speaker 2: day two there? Do you expect a bit more application? 148 00:07:43,827 --> 00:07:46,667 Speaker 2: Or will England just continue to type and go for 149 00:07:46,707 --> 00:07:48,147 Speaker 2: it at five or six and over if they can? 150 00:07:48,827 --> 00:07:50,947 Speaker 3: So what's this application? Is that mean you have forty 151 00:07:50,947 --> 00:07:52,907 Speaker 3: five balls and you have three runs and you get out? 152 00:07:53,027 --> 00:07:54,987 Speaker 3: Is that application? Well? I don't know. 153 00:07:54,987 --> 00:07:56,907 Speaker 2: You actually you make a very good point. You're right, 154 00:07:57,107 --> 00:08:00,387 Speaker 2: it's I guess people look at what how test cricket 155 00:08:00,467 --> 00:08:03,707 Speaker 2: used to be and applying yourself, playing yourself and all 156 00:08:03,707 --> 00:08:06,347 Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. Is that irrelevant now to test cricket. 157 00:08:07,587 --> 00:08:10,107 Speaker 3: It's not relevant. It's a matter you play accordingly. And 158 00:08:10,107 --> 00:08:12,627 Speaker 3: I think the pictures are like the usual Australian wikets. 159 00:08:13,427 --> 00:08:15,907 Speaker 3: This one is a little bit uneven bounced, which will 160 00:08:15,907 --> 00:08:19,307 Speaker 3: continue the cracks to open and drop in pitches. So 161 00:08:19,867 --> 00:08:22,427 Speaker 3: at the moment there's only one side really, I think 162 00:08:22,547 --> 00:08:27,827 Speaker 3: is in the strongest, strongest position as the English. At 163 00:08:27,827 --> 00:08:31,067 Speaker 3: the end of the day. You know these guys, you know, 164 00:08:31,347 --> 00:08:34,267 Speaker 3: they're in their own world. They're very much to keep 165 00:08:34,267 --> 00:08:37,827 Speaker 3: themselves themselves. They do a lot of things together and 166 00:08:37,867 --> 00:08:41,187 Speaker 3: that's that's fantastic. It's great for team spirit. We did 167 00:08:41,187 --> 00:08:43,147 Speaker 3: that in eighty six seven when we came over here 168 00:08:43,147 --> 00:08:46,507 Speaker 3: and it worked and we thrashed Australia. So hopefully we'll 169 00:08:46,547 --> 00:08:47,387 Speaker 3: see what happens now. 170 00:08:47,987 --> 00:08:50,267 Speaker 2: Fantastic. What's the venue like in Perth? Most of us 171 00:08:50,267 --> 00:08:52,067 Speaker 2: here have had the chance to go. Is it a 172 00:08:52,067 --> 00:08:53,307 Speaker 2: good tast cricket venue. 173 00:08:53,907 --> 00:08:57,347 Speaker 3: Well, it's it's the only one that's really viable because 174 00:08:57,467 --> 00:09:00,267 Speaker 3: old sixty thousand or whenever it is fifty odd thousands. 175 00:09:00,347 --> 00:09:02,667 Speaker 3: So so the stadium, yeah, I mean i'd love to 176 00:09:02,707 --> 00:09:07,587 Speaker 3: see only had what seventeen thousand capacity, so you know, 177 00:09:08,187 --> 00:09:10,227 Speaker 3: logistically this is where it will be. The up to 178 00:09:10,347 --> 00:09:13,747 Speaker 3: Staaten is very modern. I think it's used by the 179 00:09:13,787 --> 00:09:16,667 Speaker 3: AFL most of the time as well, so it's getting 180 00:09:16,667 --> 00:09:18,667 Speaker 3: plenty of service. But that's the biggest crowd they've had. 181 00:09:19,107 --> 00:09:21,867 Speaker 3: So that's how says a lot about the word Test 182 00:09:21,907 --> 00:09:26,907 Speaker 3: career is now. It's exciting, it's bullistic and it's nice 183 00:09:26,907 --> 00:09:28,347 Speaker 3: to say that England are in charge. 184 00:09:28,707 --> 00:09:31,187 Speaker 2: Indeed, look forward to seeing how the rest of this 185 00:09:31,347 --> 00:09:33,387 Speaker 2: Test and the eshes play out. Lord Botham, thank you 186 00:09:33,387 --> 00:09:35,667 Speaker 2: for taking the time for joining us across New Zealand. 187 00:09:35,667 --> 00:09:36,787 Speaker 2: I really appreciate your time. 188 00:09:37,467 --> 00:09:40,427 Speaker 3: I'll be joining you in a lovely little island in 189 00:09:40,867 --> 00:09:42,707 Speaker 3: about a month or so such time, two months, son, 190 00:09:43,067 --> 00:09:43,787 Speaker 3: so look forward to. 191 00:09:44,307 --> 00:09:46,947 Speaker 2: Look forward to having you down here, Lord Botham. Thanks indeed, 192 00:09:46,947 --> 00:09:50,027 Speaker 2: that Ian Botham. Lord Botham of course one of the 193 00:09:50,107 --> 00:09:53,387 Speaker 2: great all rounders of his time, of any time you 194 00:09:53,467 --> 00:09:57,227 Speaker 2: remember back to the eighties and he and Sir Richard Hadley, Keppel, 195 00:09:57,267 --> 00:10:01,827 Speaker 2: Devan Raan Kahn. You know, they were just a generational 196 00:10:01,867 --> 00:10:03,787 Speaker 2: bunch of all rounders. And you look at the numbers 197 00:10:03,787 --> 00:10:06,747 Speaker 2: that that Ian both them put up and they still 198 00:10:06,787 --> 00:10:09,987 Speaker 2: stand the test of time today. You know, to be 199 00:10:10,027 --> 00:10:13,467 Speaker 2: able to score over five thousand Test runs and take 200 00:10:13,747 --> 00:10:16,947 Speaker 2: close to four hundred Test wickets, I mean, those are 201 00:10:17,067 --> 00:10:21,787 Speaker 2: numbers that were unheard of back then. And that nineteen 202 00:10:21,827 --> 00:10:25,907 Speaker 2: eighty one Ashes series, as I was saying before two o'clock, 203 00:10:26,947 --> 00:10:32,067 Speaker 2: Ian Botham started that series as England captain and after 204 00:10:32,107 --> 00:10:34,747 Speaker 2: a draw and a loss, and in the second loss 205 00:10:35,747 --> 00:10:38,027 Speaker 2: he got a pair I think a pair of ducks 206 00:10:38,147 --> 00:10:41,867 Speaker 2: and he was removed from the captain c but then 207 00:10:42,307 --> 00:10:46,587 Speaker 2: went on to play an absolutely starring role with bat 208 00:10:46,627 --> 00:10:50,667 Speaker 2: and ball to help England to a what eventually turned 209 00:10:50,667 --> 00:10:52,827 Speaker 2: out to be a three to one series win six 210 00:10:52,867 --> 00:10:55,787 Speaker 2: Test matches and that Ashes series one hundred and forty 211 00:10:55,867 --> 00:10:59,347 Speaker 2: nine not out as England followed on in that Test 212 00:10:59,387 --> 00:11:03,267 Speaker 2: match at Headingley. Then he got another one hundred later 213 00:11:03,307 --> 00:11:06,267 Speaker 2: in the series. He got a five fer like five 214 00:11:06,427 --> 00:11:09,307 Speaker 2: for eleven or something in one of the other Test 215 00:11:09,347 --> 00:11:12,987 Speaker 2: matches to bowl England to victory. Just absolutely remarkable. The 216 00:11:13,027 --> 00:11:16,467 Speaker 2: fact we're still talking about an Ash's series forty four 217 00:11:16,547 --> 00:11:20,147 Speaker 2: years later, when there's been so much cricket since both 218 00:11:20,147 --> 00:11:24,147 Speaker 2: of them's ashes. Yeah, remember I remember sort of seeing 219 00:11:24,147 --> 00:11:26,227 Speaker 2: it as a young boy. Have read a lot about 220 00:11:26,227 --> 00:11:31,307 Speaker 2: that series and there was that famous story. Wasn't about 221 00:11:31,307 --> 00:11:33,507 Speaker 2: that Headingly Test? Where was it? Dennis Lilly and Rod 222 00:11:33,547 --> 00:11:38,387 Speaker 2: Marsh they bet they saw odds of five hundred to 223 00:11:38,467 --> 00:11:41,067 Speaker 2: one for England to win that Test after they had 224 00:11:41,107 --> 00:11:45,907 Speaker 2: been asked to follow on, and they took They took 225 00:11:45,987 --> 00:11:50,307 Speaker 2: the bet. They basically bet against themselves. They are much 226 00:11:50,307 --> 00:11:52,387 Speaker 2: simpler times back then. There was a bit of a 227 00:11:52,387 --> 00:11:56,147 Speaker 2: backlash after that happened. So if we look at the 228 00:11:56,187 --> 00:11:59,467 Speaker 2: current game, if you haven't caught up with the score yesterday, 229 00:11:59,507 --> 00:12:04,347 Speaker 2: it was just terrific theater. You know, I still feel 230 00:12:04,387 --> 00:12:06,827 Speaker 2: like you can apply yourself in Test cricket, can't you? 231 00:12:06,827 --> 00:12:09,467 Speaker 2: You can? You know, you can play yourself and you've 232 00:12:09,467 --> 00:12:13,547 Speaker 2: got five days, not just twenty overs anyway, one seventy 233 00:12:13,587 --> 00:12:16,867 Speaker 2: two all out England and then Australia one twenty three 234 00:12:16,947 --> 00:12:19,747 Speaker 2: for nine. I thought some of England's shot making in 235 00:12:19,787 --> 00:12:22,747 Speaker 2: their back half of their first time it was pretty 236 00:12:22,907 --> 00:12:25,947 Speaker 2: pretty ordinary. There were some fairly ordinary shots played, but 237 00:12:26,027 --> 00:12:30,147 Speaker 2: then again I thought Australia too. There's some trumming the ball. 238 00:12:30,187 --> 00:12:33,547 Speaker 2: Travis Head got out too. 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