WEBVTT - Cameron Luxton: Act MP on bill to relaxed restricted trading hours laws

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<v Speaker 2>All going well. This could be the final Easter weekend

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<v Speaker 2>of not knowing what's open and not what's not, and

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<v Speaker 2>when and when you can drink something and when you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>And Karen Mcinaughty's Members Bill to make Amendments to the

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<v Speaker 2>Shop Trading Ours Act has recently passed its first reading

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<v Speaker 2>at Parliament. MPs in the past have tried and failed

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<v Speaker 2>at making changes to the legislation, including acts Cameron Luxton

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<v Speaker 2>justin in December, just gone and Cameron joins me now

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<v Speaker 2>of Cameron, good.

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<v Speaker 3>Morning, Good morning Tim.

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<v Speaker 2>So you support Labour's version of the bill.

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<v Speaker 3>I support Kiaren Mchinolfi's version of the bill. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>member's bill that Karen's put up. And as you say,

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<v Speaker 3>it's got a bit of a change from my failed

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<v Speaker 3>attempt in December, which my failed attempt was actually addressing

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<v Speaker 3>the problems you just mentioned in You and You're Opening.

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<v Speaker 3>They're talking about whether the confusion is being addressed or

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<v Speaker 3>not of who is and isn't open and who can trade.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not actually being addressed in this version that Karen's

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<v Speaker 3>been through the house. Karen's addressing the one of the

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<v Speaker 3>elements in my bill, which was also addressing, which is

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<v Speaker 3>the you know, the fantalization of kids when people when

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<v Speaker 3>treating them like kids when they want to go and

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<v Speaker 3>with their friends and family out to enjoy a meal

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<v Speaker 3>and a drink without having all the confusing rules about

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<v Speaker 3>how long you must be there before you can eat

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<v Speaker 3>something and what you must eat before you can drink.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just silly rules. But yeah, unfortunately it doesn't touch

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<v Speaker 3>on the confusing hodgepodge mishmash of rules around the country

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<v Speaker 3>that tell businesses whether they can and can't open, whether

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<v Speaker 3>employees are must work or can have the day off.

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<v Speaker 3>That sort of stuff isn't being addressed. But look, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a good change. And as you say, many people have

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<v Speaker 3>tried and failed because maybe biting off more than we

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<v Speaker 3>can chew. But I think just yeah, that was my question.

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<v Speaker 2>His ambitions aren't particularly lofty. Pretty much, it's just about

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<v Speaker 2>being able to have a drink without having to order

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<v Speaker 2>about five plates of chips or whatever. Is that the

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<v Speaker 2>key to a success. It's you know, softly, softly, catchy

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<v Speaker 2>monkey sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I had to go at trying to actually fix

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<v Speaker 3>what many people see as the problem. And look, when

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<v Speaker 3>I was pushing my bill last year, I went around

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<v Speaker 3>the country. I met with lots of businesses, employees, I

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<v Speaker 3>heard tons of stories from different rules around the country.

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<v Speaker 3>I lobbied other MPs hard to say why wouldn't you

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<v Speaker 3>change these rules? There was a lot of There was

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of work done here and not just from me.

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<v Speaker 3>There are other MPs across the House who thought this

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<v Speaker 3>change was a sensible change and came in and supported

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<v Speaker 3>and talked to colleagues and businesses and groups around the country.

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<v Speaker 3>So there was a lot of work done last year,

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<v Speaker 3>and so you know, it's great to have so soon

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<v Speaker 3>on the heels of that effort to have a bill

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<v Speaker 3>like this across So the arguments have been getting bandied

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<v Speaker 3>around the House for a while. So I think when

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<v Speaker 3>you say by this is this is just just an

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<v Speaker 3>addressing line issue, a little nibble. It's not going to

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<v Speaker 3>be the change that ends that. You know, people will

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<v Speaker 3>think this is going to change the rules in their area.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not. If your business can open, which right now

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<v Speaker 3>isn't It is not a uniform across the country. Then

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<v Speaker 3>it will remove those trading restrictions, but it won't actually

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<v Speaker 3>open businesses around the country that are otherwise closed in

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<v Speaker 3>the area when they want to trade.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just quickly, what do you reckon? Is it going

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<v Speaker 2>to is it going to win the day or conscience

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<v Speaker 2>votes are going to do us in again.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's funny you say it is a conscience vote bill.

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<v Speaker 3>Mine was also a conscience vote and it was block

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<v Speaker 3>voted down by New Zealand. My bill was block voted

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<v Speaker 3>down by New Zealand first Labor Green's antiparty Mali. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's interesting, you say, well, the Conchin spoke get up

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<v Speaker 3>this time Green the Labor Party did actually split their

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<v Speaker 3>votes up on Karen's bill. So they so they voted

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<v Speaker 3>with a large proportion in favor and a large proportion against.

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<v Speaker 3>So along with the members of the House who really

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<v Speaker 3>were more consistent when you're voting on my bill on December,

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<v Speaker 3>it got up. So look, I've got I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>be out there saying it's a great idea. No, don't

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<v Speaker 3>mean I'm not trying to sound like it. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>great thing. And I think and I'll be going around

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<v Speaker 3>to the members that I that I everybody just live

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<v Speaker 3>and saying this is a good bill, we should be

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<v Speaker 3>supporting it.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent. I appreciate your time this morning, Cameron. Well we'll

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<v Speaker 2>just have to wait and see whyn't we.

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