1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Speaking of boomer Steve Price, how are you. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 2: Well, my millennials spend less than me because I paid 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 2: for everything. 4 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: Yes, isn't that one of the great lessons of life? 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Ellen Jones? Where do you think this goes? Because they 6 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: added a couple yesterday, a couple of charges yesterday, and 7 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: they're looking for more people to come forward, and one 8 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: imagines there will be people coming forward. 9 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: Yes. Well, I should say I worked with Jones for 10 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: a long time, filled in and did his radio program 11 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: for a long time, and so I know him pretty well. 12 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: There's always been discussion, rumors, but the police have been 13 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: working very hard on this. They had a task force 14 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: on it after the Cidney Monty held a year ago 15 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: reported allegations of inappropriate behavior as you know, and has 16 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: been reporting. I'm sure he's now been charged. Two more 17 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: charges announced yesterday. The police said that was quote. Following 18 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: through the legal advice, Jones has been charged with an 19 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: extra two counts of assault with an active indecency relating 20 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: to an alleged victim. The complainants now include a prompt 21 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: to Olympian, a seventeen year old and several men who 22 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: were under his employee out. We should point out. His 23 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: lawyer said he denies any misconduct and assert his innocence 24 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: in court where it goes well, it goes back to 25 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 2: court on the eight eighth of December. My other colleague 26 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: from t GB and I would describe him as a 27 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: friend of mine. Ray Hadley on Are yesterday entered he 28 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: may provide evidence in the case against Alan Jones by 29 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: At the same time, two very prominent Australians, one being 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: the former Pro Minister John Howard and the other being 31 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: James Packer, the son of Kerry Packer, both said that 32 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 2: they stick by their friend. They would allow the court 33 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: process to play out, but that he still has their support. 34 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: You've got to say it's one of the most high 35 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: profile cases of its type that we've ever seen and 36 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: probably lucky never to see. 37 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: Again if it turns out poorly for Ellen Jones, probably 38 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: one of the greatest falls from grace ever. 39 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be very easily? Yes? Men, We have had 40 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: high profile Australians previously end up in prison, most notably 41 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 2: probably Allan Bond. But I would describe it, I would 42 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: compare it to an Allen Bond type example. Bond, of 43 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: course was a big Air owned half the country, breweries 44 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: and all sorts of things. He ended up in prison. 45 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: It will have to wait and see. But if Allan 46 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: has found guilty of what he's been charged with, he 47 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: will do time in jail. And he is eighty three. 48 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: Years old exactly. Chris Bowen, so was he a copp 49 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: as well? How many people you have a cop Well 50 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: we had. 51 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: Two senior misters at Copp, but Bowen was the most senior. 52 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: Is the environment minister. And I think Australians has got 53 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: to be right to wake up this morning and go okay, 54 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: confusion's over here. Now we're going to have an election 55 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: in a few months. If you vote for the Coalition, 56 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: you're voting for a country that realizes it has the 57 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: energy to build nuclear power plants to keep the lights on, 58 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 2: or you're voting for the government who believes all of 59 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: your energy can come from renewables. Bowen yesterday he has 60 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: had to defend outlaw lawing nuclear energy. So what happened 61 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: was we're in this ORCS agreement with the Yukon and 62 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: US nuclear submarines. They have them, we want them, We're 63 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: going to service them here, We're going to build them 64 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: here eventually. So we're going to have a nuclear industry. 65 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: So Ed Milliband, who is the Energy Minister for the UK, 66 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: he comes out and says, oh, well, his country was 67 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: reversing a legacy of no nuclear being delivered moving forward, 68 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 2: they were going to advance their nuclear energy reactive program 69 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: and he included Australia in that. And Bowen came out 70 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: and said, hey, Yang, in a minute, we're not having 71 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: any part of that. And so now you've got the 72 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: situation where Bowen has been described as an embarrassment. Peter 73 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: Dutton has quickly jumped on all this said we had 74 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: become international embarrassment under the Albanizy government after we refuse 75 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: to sign this document. The Minerals Council Chief executive. She 76 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: said the refusal to renew membership of a key international 77 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: nuclear technology forum was a missed opportunity that undermines the 78 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: strength of our partnership. So I think I'm right. I mean, 79 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: now it's very clear one hundred percent. 80 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: And what I sort of like about Dutton is he 81 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: was written off as unelectable and yet he seemingly picked 82 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: an issue. And I'm reading a lot on nuclear at 83 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: the moment. I mean, we're never going to be nuclear 84 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: here because we're famously anti nuclear and we're sort of 85 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: myopic about it, and we can't get out of our 86 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: own way, and we've got the same problems you have, 87 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: and we think renewables are going to solve the problem 88 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: and they aren't. And we can't turn the lights on 89 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: a winter and we want to host data centers and 90 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: all that crap. But at least you've advanced the cause 91 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: to the point where it's a genuine election issue and 92 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: it may well go in his favor. 93 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: Yes, And if he wins executive what will happen? We 94 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: will have a nuclear industry. I mean, and the labor 95 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: premiers in some of the states that the mineral rich 96 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 2: are really constructed, I mean really conflicted here because they 97 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: want to do it, but their National Party of which 98 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: they're a member, they're saying, no, we don't want any 99 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: part of it. I mean, if you had Peter mallanascus 100 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: on a the Premier of South Australia, in a truth serumy, 101 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: so yeah you did. 102 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: Let's go on a truth serum the Business Council. So 103 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: here's the thing I always like to hear about, because 104 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: of course there's millions of us coming across to live 105 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: in Australia. Australia is not as fleash, correct me if 106 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: I'm wrong. It is not as flash as some people 107 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: might think it as business wise and doing business in 108 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: the economy. 109 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 2: No, it isn't. And this is a very important report. 110 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 2: It was released yesterday by the Business Council, probably four 111 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: months out from an election. How's the language here? This 112 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: report said Australia is standing on a burning platform and 113 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 2: living standards will plummet unless labor slashes, taxes and industrial 114 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 2: relations red tape. It says we will Australia will face 115 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: a crisis of poorer households. This is for everyone thinking 116 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: of coming to live here. Poorer households, lower living standards 117 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: unless we have urgent action at statements said the level 118 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 2: because productivity is at lowest level sixty years now. You 119 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: don't get any more terrifying or report than that. 120 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: I think exactly, Go well, makee ketchup next week, appreciate it, 121 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: Steve Price, and just before we leave a strut where 122 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: it's not Australia's nuclear debate. Two things to read if 123 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: you're into it. BBC ran why Canada could become the 124 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: next nuclear energy superpower they've seen what's bubbling. They are 125 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: rich and high grade deposits could become a nuclear superpower 126 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: as soon as they pull the trigger. They've got political 127 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: issues around it like everybody else. And the other one 128 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: you want to read is CNBC. Three Mile Island, which 129 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: I told you about before, is about to restart. It 130 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: could mark a turning point for nuclear industry. They think 131 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: now Constellation Energy is behind all of this, and they've 132 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: cut a deal. I can't remember which one it is. 133 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: I think it's Microsoft, but it's certainly one of the 134 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,559 Speaker 1: big tech players. Big tech people who run data centers 135 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: are raither doing one of two things, cutting deals with 136 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: places like Three Mile Island, or they're building their own 137 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: many nuclear reactors. 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