1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,787 Speaker 1: from Newstalks EDB. 3 00:00:12,747 --> 00:00:14,707 Speaker 2: That's good out to the back line. They'd love to 4 00:00:14,707 --> 00:00:18,387 Speaker 2: finish on a high as well, but it's messy on 5 00:00:18,427 --> 00:00:20,787 Speaker 2: the deck. Reuben Love's intercept to that and Reverend Love's 6 00:00:20,787 --> 00:00:23,747 Speaker 2: ha A store a second on Devo when I was 7 00:00:23,747 --> 00:00:28,707 Speaker 2: a platz out of nowhere by the All Blacks and 8 00:00:28,747 --> 00:00:32,707 Speaker 2: that is a full time store. In Yokohama sixty four 9 00:00:33,667 --> 00:00:39,867 Speaker 2: nineteen Japan started with a hester roar, but the All 10 00:00:39,907 --> 00:00:43,307 Speaker 2: Blacks blew them away, and the All Blacks start the 11 00:00:43,707 --> 00:00:47,667 Speaker 2: n debated sum with a victory in Yokohama. 12 00:00:47,787 --> 00:00:50,387 Speaker 3: Yes I do. Elliot Smith with TheCall last night the 13 00:00:50,427 --> 00:00:55,147 Speaker 3: All Blacks sixty four Japan, nineteen and impressor first half blitz, 14 00:00:55,467 --> 00:00:57,947 Speaker 3: the All Black scoring seven tries, a bit messy in 15 00:00:57,987 --> 00:01:00,827 Speaker 3: the second half, but then ending on a high hurricane 16 00:01:00,907 --> 00:01:03,027 Speaker 3: Ruben Love coming off the bench for his test aboot 17 00:01:03,307 --> 00:01:06,307 Speaker 3: and scoring a couple of lake tries. All Black's assistant 18 00:01:06,427 --> 00:01:09,147 Speaker 3: coach Jason Ryan joins us on Weekend Sport. Jason, what 19 00:01:09,227 --> 00:01:11,667 Speaker 3: pleased you the most about the performance? 20 00:01:13,467 --> 00:01:16,067 Speaker 4: Probably how you know we look at a lot of 21 00:01:16,107 --> 00:01:20,227 Speaker 4: you guys took their opportunity. Really there's a different looking 22 00:01:20,267 --> 00:01:23,147 Speaker 4: all back team when you think about it. So I 23 00:01:23,187 --> 00:01:26,827 Speaker 4: think I think the fact that it wasn't perfect it 24 00:01:26,987 --> 00:01:29,107 Speaker 4: was good for us as well. You know, we started, 25 00:01:29,307 --> 00:01:31,867 Speaker 4: they put us on our heels, but we stayed really 26 00:01:31,907 --> 00:01:35,667 Speaker 4: composed and some young guys have really got us thinking 27 00:01:35,907 --> 00:01:38,987 Speaker 4: and I think that's exciting. You know, like last time 28 00:01:39,027 --> 00:01:42,587 Speaker 4: I played Japan, we won by four points, so to 29 00:01:42,627 --> 00:01:46,347 Speaker 4: actually put them way away quite convincingly at the end 30 00:01:46,427 --> 00:01:47,387 Speaker 4: was pleasing. 31 00:01:47,827 --> 00:01:50,427 Speaker 3: So how much pressure are some of these players who 32 00:01:50,427 --> 00:01:53,867 Speaker 3: played in this test mates putting on some of the incumbents? 33 00:01:53,867 --> 00:01:56,187 Speaker 3: I guess even the ones who have gone on ahead 34 00:01:56,187 --> 00:01:56,707 Speaker 3: to England. 35 00:01:58,267 --> 00:02:01,627 Speaker 4: Well, look at any any all back you know, whether 36 00:02:01,667 --> 00:02:04,747 Speaker 4: not their debut, or they've played fifty odd tests, or 37 00:02:04,947 --> 00:02:07,147 Speaker 4: you know that they're in the single figure the test matches, 38 00:02:07,187 --> 00:02:11,027 Speaker 4: that they get an opportunity. So we've obviously sent some 39 00:02:11,107 --> 00:02:13,707 Speaker 4: boys to London that are over there, but we're pretty 40 00:02:13,707 --> 00:02:16,507 Speaker 4: clear on the squad. I think after tonight that we 41 00:02:16,507 --> 00:02:19,747 Speaker 4: want to pick against England, but you know, we celebrate 42 00:02:19,747 --> 00:02:21,787 Speaker 4: the fact that you know, we're too new all blacks 43 00:02:21,827 --> 00:02:24,867 Speaker 4: that that's special on its own, and any test win 44 00:02:24,947 --> 00:02:27,547 Speaker 4: is special. But I just think with how we did 45 00:02:27,547 --> 00:02:29,947 Speaker 4: this week and that the pressure they put on with 46 00:02:29,987 --> 00:02:33,907 Speaker 4: selection and around multiple positions, I think it's really encouraging. 47 00:02:33,987 --> 00:02:35,547 Speaker 3: I just want to pick up on that point, Jase. 48 00:02:35,587 --> 00:02:37,947 Speaker 3: The players who have been sent on to England, I 49 00:02:38,027 --> 00:02:41,147 Speaker 3: think we can all assume they'll start next weekend. Were 50 00:02:41,147 --> 00:02:44,267 Speaker 3: you asking the players who played against Japan to put 51 00:02:44,307 --> 00:02:47,347 Speaker 3: pressure on you as selectors as you look to name 52 00:02:47,387 --> 00:02:49,827 Speaker 3: you twenty three for next weekend and for the big 53 00:02:49,867 --> 00:02:50,507 Speaker 3: Test to come. 54 00:02:51,307 --> 00:02:53,867 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a fair question. Look, yeah, we 55 00:02:53,947 --> 00:02:56,187 Speaker 4: don't say we want them to put pressure on us. 56 00:02:56,347 --> 00:02:58,267 Speaker 4: We just want them to take their opportunity. Or if 57 00:02:58,267 --> 00:03:01,627 Speaker 4: we talk too much for younger guys that are trying 58 00:03:01,627 --> 00:03:03,467 Speaker 4: to find their way at the Test there or about pressure, 59 00:03:04,027 --> 00:03:06,387 Speaker 4: well that that will make them tighten up. But I 60 00:03:06,427 --> 00:03:10,027 Speaker 4: got a few individuals. If you look at Pasilyotossi, he 61 00:03:10,107 --> 00:03:14,147 Speaker 4: started his first Test match as tide ed today he 62 00:03:14,187 --> 00:03:17,947 Speaker 4: went really well. Semmapenny Fee Now I've got another opportunity 63 00:03:18,547 --> 00:03:20,987 Speaker 4: at Sux. He hasn't had much Test foot he did 64 00:03:21,027 --> 00:03:23,667 Speaker 4: really well. Even I suffer more more, you know, like 65 00:03:23,947 --> 00:03:27,147 Speaker 4: I'm just talking the forwards point of view, but it 66 00:03:27,147 --> 00:03:30,587 Speaker 4: gets us thinking and obviously cam Rouguard back as well 67 00:03:30,627 --> 00:03:34,507 Speaker 4: with something well, you know, it just makes us I 68 00:03:34,627 --> 00:03:37,707 Speaker 4: think definitely about our selection and make the boys understand this. 69 00:03:37,787 --> 00:03:39,507 Speaker 4: It's going to be a hard tam to plack. And 70 00:03:39,547 --> 00:03:41,747 Speaker 4: when we get that and when we build these guys 71 00:03:42,427 --> 00:03:45,627 Speaker 4: confidence and they get exposed to test rugby and pressure moments, 72 00:03:45,747 --> 00:03:46,827 Speaker 4: it's it's exciting. 73 00:03:47,467 --> 00:03:50,507 Speaker 3: How happy were you with your ship, Peace, Yeah, I 74 00:03:50,507 --> 00:03:51,027 Speaker 3: think we had. 75 00:03:51,347 --> 00:03:55,987 Speaker 4: I think we had some good moments. I think, you know, 76 00:03:56,187 --> 00:03:58,547 Speaker 4: we got some quality of ball where we need it 77 00:03:58,627 --> 00:04:01,027 Speaker 4: and when we needed it. I thought Patty did a 78 00:04:01,027 --> 00:04:03,747 Speaker 4: great job during the week and calling our line out options. 79 00:04:04,147 --> 00:04:06,587 Speaker 4: For example, they obviously scored a couple of tries as 80 00:04:06,627 --> 00:04:10,067 Speaker 4: fast off set piece plays that we'll need to look 81 00:04:10,107 --> 00:04:12,427 Speaker 4: at in the review. That will give us something to 82 00:04:12,427 --> 00:04:14,987 Speaker 4: think about as we hit to London. But I think 83 00:04:15,067 --> 00:04:19,547 Speaker 4: overall we got the quality ball we needed. But you know, 84 00:04:19,747 --> 00:04:21,267 Speaker 4: by no means satisfied. 85 00:04:21,267 --> 00:04:24,667 Speaker 3: I guess you mentioned Patrick Tweepolotu there he wore the 86 00:04:24,787 --> 00:04:26,427 Speaker 3: armband of course in this one. Can you tell us 87 00:04:26,467 --> 00:04:29,827 Speaker 3: about Patrick tweep Boloto's week as All Blacks captain for 88 00:04:29,867 --> 00:04:30,427 Speaker 3: the first time? 89 00:04:31,747 --> 00:04:35,067 Speaker 4: Oh, been outstanding To be honest, that's it was a 90 00:04:35,067 --> 00:04:38,347 Speaker 4: real moment when you know, we had a conversation as coaches. 91 00:04:38,867 --> 00:04:41,187 Speaker 4: You know, we knew what was going to happen with 92 00:04:41,187 --> 00:04:44,507 Speaker 4: with Scooter heating over to England early with the other boys, 93 00:04:45,427 --> 00:04:47,067 Speaker 4: and we you know, we talked around it. We're really 94 00:04:47,107 --> 00:04:49,867 Speaker 4: clear who our captain was going to be for this week, 95 00:04:49,907 --> 00:04:53,187 Speaker 4: and we let Patty know really well, really early, and 96 00:04:53,787 --> 00:04:55,387 Speaker 4: you know, right from the time raised the rung him. 97 00:04:55,427 --> 00:04:58,027 Speaker 4: He was an emotional moment for him, you know, with 98 00:04:58,067 --> 00:04:59,787 Speaker 4: his family and to lead the All Blacks and I 99 00:04:59,787 --> 00:05:01,827 Speaker 4: think he's the agency and captain. It's not many out 100 00:05:01,867 --> 00:05:05,267 Speaker 4: of twelve hundred plus all Blacks, so he really got 101 00:05:05,267 --> 00:05:07,707 Speaker 4: around the boys. He gave and so much confidence just 102 00:05:07,747 --> 00:05:10,667 Speaker 4: how he delivers his message. His experienced all Black now 103 00:05:10,747 --> 00:05:13,987 Speaker 4: and got around the younger boys and just had little 104 00:05:13,987 --> 00:05:17,987 Speaker 4: conversations during the week behind the scenes. We're not that's 105 00:05:17,987 --> 00:05:21,427 Speaker 4: at dinner or after a meeting and just helping guys 106 00:05:21,427 --> 00:05:24,827 Speaker 4: out and couldn't speak high enough any played exception a 107 00:05:24,827 --> 00:05:25,467 Speaker 4: well too, I thought. 108 00:05:25,587 --> 00:05:27,907 Speaker 3: Indeed, indeed he did. And you talk about the twelve 109 00:05:27,987 --> 00:05:30,947 Speaker 3: hundred plus All Blacks, she added two new names All 110 00:05:30,987 --> 00:05:33,867 Speaker 3: Black twelve hundred and twenty two, Peter Larkeye All Black 111 00:05:33,907 --> 00:05:36,147 Speaker 3: twelve hundred and twenty three is Ruben Love. Couple of 112 00:05:36,147 --> 00:05:38,827 Speaker 3: tries for Ruben Love on his debut. How do you 113 00:05:38,907 --> 00:05:42,427 Speaker 3: celebrate new boys in the All Blacks? 114 00:05:42,667 --> 00:05:44,947 Speaker 4: Oh? Really special was we just had a you know, 115 00:05:44,947 --> 00:05:47,267 Speaker 4: we call it the all Black circle and we're really 116 00:05:47,427 --> 00:05:52,947 Speaker 4: grateful that we had very retellent Aaron Smith, Dane Cole, 117 00:05:53,027 --> 00:05:57,387 Speaker 4: Sam Whitelocke in the sheds with us and we celebrated 118 00:05:57,427 --> 00:06:00,667 Speaker 4: and Sam came presented him with us all black tie 119 00:06:00,707 --> 00:06:03,507 Speaker 4: and to Pete he's been rooming with them all week 120 00:06:03,867 --> 00:06:08,627 Speaker 4: and then teacher parent are presented Reuben with his So 121 00:06:09,227 --> 00:06:12,507 Speaker 4: it's just great to have those legends in the room. 122 00:06:12,547 --> 00:06:15,627 Speaker 4: You know, three hundred test all Blacks. It's pretty special. 123 00:06:15,827 --> 00:06:18,187 Speaker 4: And obviously Colzy he's had a lot to do with 124 00:06:18,187 --> 00:06:20,587 Speaker 4: the Saffo and that sort of thing from Afar, so 125 00:06:21,107 --> 00:06:23,027 Speaker 4: having those boys in the shed that are over here 126 00:06:23,067 --> 00:06:25,627 Speaker 4: in Japan was a special moment. So that's a celebration. 127 00:06:25,747 --> 00:06:28,267 Speaker 4: But we'll get around them and stay in at the 128 00:06:28,267 --> 00:06:30,787 Speaker 4: hotel tonight and with an early flight to London, so 129 00:06:31,947 --> 00:06:35,787 Speaker 4: we'll get around them and have some dinner and enjoy it. 130 00:06:35,187 --> 00:06:38,387 Speaker 3: Around the sort of fifteen minute mark. You brought six 131 00:06:38,427 --> 00:06:39,827 Speaker 3: players on at the same time. It looked like a 132 00:06:39,827 --> 00:06:42,387 Speaker 3: bit of a bomber squad all coming on together. Was 133 00:06:42,427 --> 00:06:44,707 Speaker 3: that always the plan to bring on multiple subs at 134 00:06:44,747 --> 00:06:46,227 Speaker 3: the same time with about half an hour ago. 135 00:06:47,907 --> 00:06:51,587 Speaker 4: Now, look, you talk about different situations that might happen 136 00:06:51,587 --> 00:06:53,147 Speaker 4: in the game, but you know we were a point 137 00:06:53,427 --> 00:06:56,707 Speaker 4: where we're a few points up, weren't we, and we 138 00:06:56,707 --> 00:07:00,027 Speaker 4: were just like, let's get all the boys on and 139 00:07:00,027 --> 00:07:02,427 Speaker 4: man that can have it. It's challenged at times as well, 140 00:07:02,507 --> 00:07:05,027 Speaker 4: and we probably lost a little bit of momentum, whether 141 00:07:05,107 --> 00:07:06,987 Speaker 4: or not that was through the changes or our decision 142 00:07:07,027 --> 00:07:08,787 Speaker 4: making on need to look a little bit further at that. 143 00:07:08,827 --> 00:07:11,747 Speaker 4: But you know those boys that will train really well, 144 00:07:11,827 --> 00:07:14,107 Speaker 4: so get them out there and get into it. You 145 00:07:14,107 --> 00:07:16,467 Speaker 4: know someone's going to be brave, and we did that, 146 00:07:16,587 --> 00:07:21,027 Speaker 4: and you know they all had good little individual moments. 147 00:07:21,227 --> 00:07:25,067 Speaker 3: So you've used forty two players now in twenty twenty four, 148 00:07:25,147 --> 00:07:26,627 Speaker 3: and there have been a bunch of guys who played 149 00:07:26,627 --> 00:07:28,187 Speaker 3: against Japan who haven't had a heck of a lot 150 00:07:28,227 --> 00:07:30,667 Speaker 3: of opportunity up until now, and you mentioned a couple 151 00:07:30,667 --> 00:07:33,227 Speaker 3: of them before. Jase, how much of a coaching challenge 152 00:07:33,227 --> 00:07:36,147 Speaker 3: is to manage a large group of players, all of 153 00:07:36,187 --> 00:07:39,147 Speaker 3: who want to play, but many of who will only 154 00:07:39,187 --> 00:07:42,387 Speaker 3: get limited opportunities. How challenging is that as a coaching group. 155 00:07:44,187 --> 00:07:48,347 Speaker 4: Yeah, look, it can be if you're not upfront, it's 156 00:07:48,387 --> 00:07:50,587 Speaker 4: a challenge. If you're not upfront with them, you know, 157 00:07:51,707 --> 00:07:54,267 Speaker 4: you just can't, you know. But they know that we're 158 00:07:54,267 --> 00:07:56,667 Speaker 4: not just going to give out all black caps. You know, 159 00:07:56,787 --> 00:07:59,027 Speaker 4: we want to pick our best test team that we 160 00:07:59,067 --> 00:08:01,187 Speaker 4: think will win the Test in front of us. And 161 00:08:01,827 --> 00:08:05,787 Speaker 4: they needed to train extremely well, put pressure on the 162 00:08:05,867 --> 00:08:08,227 Speaker 4: other boys during the training week. You know, they still 163 00:08:08,227 --> 00:08:11,067 Speaker 4: get opportunities at training. We review each training hard and 164 00:08:11,867 --> 00:08:14,667 Speaker 4: that's sometimes life is an all black and what it 165 00:08:14,747 --> 00:08:16,747 Speaker 4: is life is an all black that you're going to 166 00:08:16,787 --> 00:08:19,667 Speaker 4: get a limited opportunity, but when you do get it, 167 00:08:20,707 --> 00:08:21,347 Speaker 4: take your chance. 168 00:08:21,427 --> 00:08:21,587 Speaker 2: You know. 169 00:08:21,747 --> 00:08:23,787 Speaker 4: Probably an example that is have a penny fee. How 170 00:08:23,787 --> 00:08:25,707 Speaker 4: he had a bit of a you know, play two 171 00:08:25,787 --> 00:08:28,507 Speaker 4: tests against England. He knows himself and he wasn't quite 172 00:08:28,507 --> 00:08:30,787 Speaker 4: where he needed to be, and he's gone away, he 173 00:08:30,867 --> 00:08:32,867 Speaker 4: put on a bit of weight, some good size and 174 00:08:32,907 --> 00:08:34,467 Speaker 4: now he's come back and played this Test and he 175 00:08:34,467 --> 00:08:37,547 Speaker 4: should have a lot of confidence from it, so the 176 00:08:37,627 --> 00:08:41,067 Speaker 4: margins are close and small for those players to perform 177 00:08:41,427 --> 00:08:44,427 Speaker 4: at the highest level on the world stage at Test rugby. 178 00:08:44,467 --> 00:08:48,187 Speaker 4: But we made no excuse about that because that's that's 179 00:08:48,667 --> 00:08:50,227 Speaker 4: how the All Black should be, all right. 180 00:08:50,267 --> 00:08:52,427 Speaker 3: And the players who have gone on ahead to England, 181 00:08:52,427 --> 00:08:55,227 Speaker 3: they left before the Japan Test, what will they have 182 00:08:55,307 --> 00:08:57,627 Speaker 3: been doing before the rest of you arrive and catch 183 00:08:57,667 --> 00:08:57,987 Speaker 3: them up. 184 00:08:58,867 --> 00:09:00,627 Speaker 4: Yes, so we obviously we had a bit of a 185 00:09:00,707 --> 00:09:04,427 Speaker 4: head out during the week, just a bit of a training, 186 00:09:05,067 --> 00:09:09,267 Speaker 4: a couple of scenarios against Panasonic, so that was really good. 187 00:09:09,267 --> 00:09:14,587 Speaker 4: And they've got our game plan effectively already that we've 188 00:09:14,587 --> 00:09:17,227 Speaker 4: been talking around, for example, put in context their line 189 00:09:17,267 --> 00:09:19,587 Speaker 4: out menu and what we sort of feel we'll run 190 00:09:19,627 --> 00:09:22,147 Speaker 4: there with Tupo Y and Scott Barrett being over there, 191 00:09:22,187 --> 00:09:23,507 Speaker 4: so they'll have a look at that. But there's no 192 00:09:23,547 --> 00:09:27,067 Speaker 4: guarantees that they are the guys that will be in 193 00:09:27,067 --> 00:09:29,307 Speaker 4: that squad either, but you know, there's a fair indication 194 00:09:29,427 --> 00:09:31,747 Speaker 4: that we're sent them there for a reason and to 195 00:09:31,747 --> 00:09:34,867 Speaker 4: get ahead of the travel that's coming up. But they 196 00:09:34,947 --> 00:09:37,427 Speaker 4: know which game we want to play. We've had leaders 197 00:09:37,467 --> 00:09:39,707 Speaker 4: meetings were needed to so that we can hit the 198 00:09:39,747 --> 00:09:42,707 Speaker 4: Northern tour running because effectively we've got a full week 199 00:09:42,747 --> 00:09:46,147 Speaker 4: for England in six days a goot Ireland, so they 200 00:09:46,147 --> 00:09:47,867 Speaker 4: need to be on the front foot and that's why 201 00:09:47,907 --> 00:09:51,427 Speaker 4: we did it to keep these boys. Are those boys fresh? 202 00:09:52,827 --> 00:09:52,947 Speaker 2: You know? 203 00:09:53,107 --> 00:09:54,707 Speaker 4: Three big tests, three or four big tests in. 204 00:09:54,627 --> 00:09:57,387 Speaker 3: A row, all right? Yeah, exciting times ahead for you 205 00:09:57,547 --> 00:09:59,867 Speaker 3: and for All Blacks fans as well. Congratulations on the 206 00:09:59,867 --> 00:10:01,867 Speaker 3: one over Japan, Jayce, thanks for jetting to us. 207 00:10:01,867 --> 00:10:05,107 Speaker 4: Safe travels, mate, no worries, thank you, Thank. 208 00:10:04,947 --> 00:10:07,187 Speaker 3: You, Jase Jason Ryan, then assistant coach of the All 209 00:10:07,227 --> 00:10:08,987 Speaker 3: Blacks sixty four nineteen. 210 00:10:09,707 --> 00:10:12,907 Speaker 1: For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 211 00:10:13,027 --> 00:10:16,307 Speaker 1: to News Talks it B Weekends from midday or follow 212 00:10:16,347 --> 00:10:17,947 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio