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Speaker 2: Right now, the government's patting itself on the back for
Speaker 2: successfully cracking down on abusive kaying or A tenants. It's
Speaker 2: seen sixty three tendancies terminated in the past ten months.
Speaker 2: That's up from eleven the year before. Action over complaints
Speaker 2: is happening five times faster. The number of former warnings
Speaker 2: being issued has gone up six hundred percent. So I'm
Speaker 2: joined now by the former CEO of the Monte Cecilia
Speaker 2: Housing Trust, Bernie Smith Community Bernie.
Speaker 3: Good Morning, Angry so.
Speaker 2: Caig Aura has one hundred and ninety thousand clients and
Speaker 2: in the past ten months there have only been sixty
Speaker 2: three terminations. The year before eleven and the year before
Speaker 2: that just two. So is this an issue that has
Speaker 2: been over egged? Oh?
Speaker 3: I don't think so. It's gone from bad duarius in
Speaker 3: the sense of a previous government believing that no one
Speaker 3: should be exited from their home behavior, no matter the damage,
Speaker 3: and this government is endeavoring to put it right. So
Speaker 3: that's why the stats are looking so high.
Speaker 2: Do we assume that state housing tends need to be
Speaker 2: complained about.
Speaker 3: No, we don't, And sadly, we've got a little bit
Speaker 3: of a nimbiism occurring in some communities where people feel
Speaker 3: that they should be complained about when they're jolly good tenants.
Speaker 2: So the numbers now are bigger than they've ever been,
Speaker 2: and it is a six hundred percent increase in formal warnings.
Speaker 2: Does that indicate that they're being given out for lesser
Speaker 2: issues than we did in the past.
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think, sadly, Andrew, for some
Speaker 3: tenants they don't understand or know what good behavior is
Speaker 3: because of how they've been raised in their families, and
Speaker 3: so the wrap around service actually assists tenants to know
Speaker 3: what good behavior is and hopefully this will begin to
Speaker 3: create generational.
Speaker 2: Change all right now, The fear that is often promoted
Speaker 2: by people who don't like it when the government comes
Speaker 2: down tough on canga or a tenants is that they
Speaker 2: don't know where they're going to go. They fear that
Speaker 2: these tenants being thrown out will end out homeless, maybe
Speaker 2: sleeping rough. Is there a link between eviction from canger
Speaker 2: or a house and homelessness?
Speaker 3: Oh, this certainly is a link. I think there's some tenants,
Speaker 3: no matter how much support you put in, no matter
Speaker 3: how long the journey is that you walk with them
Speaker 3: to try and support them to correct things. They just
Speaker 3: have a chip on their shoulder and there's no choice
Speaker 3: but to act. The sad part for me is that
Speaker 3: children are involved and it's often the children's folded all.
Speaker 2: Well, Bertie, thank you so much for getting up for
Speaker 2: us this morning, on this holiday. And this is Bertie Smith,
Speaker 2: the former CEO of the Monty Cecilia Housing Trust.
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