1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: And right now we're going to parliament. Jason Wall's our 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:04,439 Speaker 1: politically editor, Jason Good afternoon. 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Ryan. 4 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: So has the PM told what's happening here? But the 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: Prime Minister's basically said I wouldn't use that language. But 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: we have had a statement from Winston regardless. 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I mean it was basically being slapped with 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: a wet bus ticket by the Prime Minister. There was essentially, 9 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: you know, just to catch you up if you don't 10 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: know the story by now. Earlier this week, Shane Jones 11 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: yelled in the House and the Mexican's Home at Green 12 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: Party leader Koe Swarwick during a debate in the Green 13 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: say this was a reference to the Mexican born at 14 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 2: Ricardo Menandez March. Now, Jones, I will not was given 15 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 2: an opportunity this morning to clarify these comments with Hosking. Instead, 16 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: he just decided to say the following. 17 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 3: Speaking of which, ironically, and tired and the television news 18 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 3: obsessed themselves last night with your behavior, along with your 19 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 3: leader's behavior towards the Greens in general. Do you do 20 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 3: you stand down? Do you apologize? Do you double down? 21 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 3: What do you do? 22 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: No? 23 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 4: It's a Mexican stand up, so. 24 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: Obviously he doesn't really care about it too much. We 25 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: asked Winston about the comments on the bridge on the 26 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: way to house the house today. 27 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 5: Here's what he said, Ah, look, the house is that 28 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 5: sort of place where a lot of things that have 29 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 5: said absolutely overreacted to, and this is one of classic case. 30 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: Look, so look we are all overreacting, according to Winston. 31 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 5: So in short, if you can't stand in the head, 32 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 5: get out of the kitchen. 33 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: That's what it boils down to for Winston Peters. So 34 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: your question, will the Prime Minister rein in the MPs? 35 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 6: Oh, look, I didn't hear the remarks, and not remarks 36 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 6: that I would make myself, but I obviously have conversations 37 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 6: with colleagues all the time, which. 38 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: As I said, is about the wettest of wet bus 39 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: tickets being slapped on one's wrist that you can get. 40 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: He did go a touch further, there's. 41 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 6: A moment between stimulus and response, just calling everybody as 42 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 6: a as a leader to say, hey, listen, take that moment, 43 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 6: think about what you're going to say before you put 44 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 6: your mouth. 45 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: Into get But that was more of a everybody needs 46 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: to watch what they're saying thing as opposed to, specifically 47 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: on Winston and Shane. Now, meanwhile, we had a statement 48 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: come through to us within the last hour from Winston 49 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: Peters's office. It says the Deputy Prime Minister has been 50 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: made aware of concerns raised by the Mexican ambassador with 51 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: m FAT that's the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. He looks 52 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: forward to seeing the ambassador next week to discuss the matter. 53 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: The Deputy Prime Minister is a huge champion of Mexico 54 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: and New Zealand relations and as demonstrated by his visit 55 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: there late last year, he feels nothing but friendship for 56 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: the Mexican people. Now here's the kicker. 57 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 5: Ryan. 58 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: In the heat of the moment, in the robust environment 59 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: of Parliament, sometimes some members say things when provoked that 60 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: on reflection may have been expressed differently. That could be 61 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: described as a walkback. As far as Winston walkbacks go, 62 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: it's essentially him throwing down his hands and saying I'm sorry. 63 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: He doesn't really ever get that close to admitting that 64 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 2: he was wrong. Meanwhile, Ryan, I have a bonus clip 65 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: if you're interested. It's the most luxe and two second 66 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: clip that you'll ever hear. Are you interested? 67 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: Oh, you've timed. I'm taking de bait. 68 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: Believe it. When I heard it, it was so Christopher 69 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: Lux and have a listen. 70 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 6: What I'd say is that's not what I'd say. 71 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard that today. I heard that from the 72 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: stand up. Hey, Shane Jones did get one thing right. 73 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: He's got Willis on his side over the Woke bank 74 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: his thing. What's the latest there? 75 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 2: Well, keeping with the Shane Jones theme, he told the 76 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: Australian newspaper earlier this week that the Kiwi subs, the 77 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 2: Kiwi banks or the Kiwi branches of the Ossian banks 78 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: are being driven by unelected, un orientated climate apostles. So 79 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: very Shane Jones. Here's what he told the country on 80 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 2: this issue. 81 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 4: We about a guts full of these work riddled virtue 82 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 4: signaling people who have no accountability what citizen mandated them 83 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 4: to try companies such as coal mining industries to bankruptcy. 84 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: So this is in reference to the fact that some banks, 85 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: and specifically he's referencing him being z with drawing lending 86 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: services to some petrol stations on a case by case basis. Now, 87 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: as it turns out, the Prime Minister's not happy with this. 88 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 6: Yes, it's very concerning when we banks actually across not 89 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 6: just Chemibank, but actually across the banking sector. I'm making 90 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 6: those decisions. 91 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: And his Finance Minister, Nicola Willis took it one step further. 92 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 7: I think this is an issue that the Parliamentary Select 93 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 7: Committee should call the bank chief executives back in about, 94 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 7: because while individual banks will make decisions about who they 95 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 7: bank based on their financial, credit worthiness and other factors, 96 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 7: it would be very concerning for New Zealand if banks 97 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 7: as a whole gang together to stop giving finance to 98 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 7: things that New Zealanders need. 99 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: So all the Bank is back in front of MPs, 100 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: says Willis and Ryan one more time for good measure. 101 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 6: What I'd say is it's not what i'd say. 102 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: Jason, thank you very much about Jason Wall's our political 103 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: editor in Parliament having too much fun. 104 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 5: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 105 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,239 Speaker 5: news talks. 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