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Speaker 1: Good morning, by what's your sense of this protest? Is

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Speaker 1: it just nine days worth of wandering down the North

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Speaker 1: Island or are we in for something bigger and more alarming.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's hard to tell, but you know, police have

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Speaker 2: been working with the organizers now well in advance and

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Speaker 2: there's a commitment by them that it's going to be

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Speaker 2: a peaceful hikoy and beauty Better is that people have

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Speaker 2: got the right to come out and participate in peaceful protest.

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Speaker 1: What's the rule around this in terms of their right

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Speaker 1: to protest versus everybody else's right to get on with

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Speaker 1: their day and not be held up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good question. I mean, depending on

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Speaker 2: the numbers that joined the Hackoy and maybe some disruption

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Speaker 2: around traffic flying things like that, But fundamentally the police

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Speaker 2: have been very clear with the Hackoy organizers that if

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Speaker 2: there are breach to the peace, if there is any

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Speaker 2: sort of laws that have been broken, if law and body,

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Speaker 2: members of the public having their rights trampled over, then

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Speaker 2: you know the police will take each of that.

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Speaker 1: What's the sense from the police. Is there a lot

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Speaker 1: of you know, you in anger in this that could

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Speaker 1: explode or we don't know.

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Speaker 2: No, not at this state of the They're working very

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Speaker 2: close and got a very good, strong working relationship with

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Speaker 2: the Hickory organizers and the heck of We organizers are

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Speaker 2: taking it seriously. They've hired a traffic management company to

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Speaker 2: help with to manage that they have. As recently as

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Speaker 2: this morning, I was hearing them saying they committed to

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Speaker 2: a peaceful protest, and my expectations is that they you know,

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Speaker 2: it's a big responsibility to bring that many people out

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Speaker 2: into a public space and they should be focused on

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Speaker 2: the safety of the protest as the safety of police

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Speaker 2: officers and the safety of the public.

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Speaker 1: How much resource, by way of an issue is there

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Speaker 1: from the police, and what won't they be doing Because

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Speaker 1: they're doing this.

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Speaker 2: They'll put the necessary resource into it. So there's they've

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Speaker 2: established obviously a centralized comment controls center monitor it, and

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Speaker 2: I from what understand, have the ability to be able

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Speaker 2: to surge additional stuff and if they're.

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Speaker 1: Required, okay, and when they get to Parliament, does that

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Speaker 1: potentially become a problem.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it will be. But you know, of

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Speaker 2: course the police have done the planning around all contingencies.

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Speaker 2: But no, I don't think it will be a problem.

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Speaker 2: I think that they'll arrive at the Parliament, they'll want

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Speaker 2: to have Obviously there'll be some speeches delivered in some

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Speaker 2: engagement yet. But look, like I said, the organizers are

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Speaker 2: fully committed to a peaceful before.

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Speaker 1: Have you had a word with David Seymour, because of

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Speaker 1: course you're in charge of this and this is something

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Speaker 1: that's going to die at the first round anyway. So

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Speaker 1: it's the weirdest thing in the world, doesn't it. Whether

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Speaker 1: you agree with this or not, it's dying at round one. Therefore,

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Speaker 1: the whole thing's a waste of time. Therefore, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of energy going into something that's going nowhere.

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Speaker 2: Have I supposeed to David seymore about that? No, I haven't.

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Speaker 2: I haven't hear discussion with David. Are you talking about

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Speaker 2: the treaties principles?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean yeah. The reason they're marching is the

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Speaker 1: Treaty Principal's Bill. The Treaty Principal's Bill is going off

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Speaker 1: dated Thursday's going off to the Selectrimitty. He's going to

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Speaker 1: die from there because you haven't got the support. So

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Speaker 1: they're marching for no particular reason. They're marching for something

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Speaker 1: that isn't going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, so it's just'trictly related to the treaties principle. Yes,

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Speaker 2: you're right, it's not going any further than that sleectuity process. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, I've got your headline over the weekend the number

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Speaker 1: of youth offenders is dropping. No one knows why is

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Speaker 1: that true?

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Speaker 2: I agread that well, I mean, obviously we're very focused

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Speaker 2: on reducing especially violent recidibus youth defendant and we've already

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Speaker 2: put some things in place. We've got our Youth Military

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Speaker 2: Academy which is working very well. Certainly there's the serious

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Speaker 2: violent cibus defenders are going into youth justice facilities and

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Speaker 2: they're coming off the streets, so that will help with

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Speaker 2: some reduction. But look that we're certainly not We know

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Speaker 2: that there's still a lot more work to do, but

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Speaker 2: there are some early promising signs that we're moving in

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Speaker 2: the right direction.

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