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Speaker 1: Barry Sober here, Hey Barry, good afternoon, Roan, good afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Now Crysaldell back in from the cold at the Investment Summer.

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Speaker 2: Come as a surprise you Ryan that I know Chrysler

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Speaker 2: Dell quite well.

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Speaker 1: Here we go again.

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Speaker 2: I've dined with him on several occasions in New York

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Speaker 2: when he was working for Donald Trump. I can never

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Speaker 2: quite understand why New Zealander would work for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: But I think the point he made it a sort

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Speaker 2: of a way that look, he's a boy from Matamata.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's held some very senior business positions after

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Speaker 2: he left matamatter, but to work in the most important

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Speaker 2: office in the world was a bit of a buzz.

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Speaker 2: And also he was the one that outlasted everybody in

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Speaker 2: the Trump office.

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Speaker 1: And also it wasn't such a known quantity back the

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Speaker 1: first time round was bad.

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Speaker 2: But Chrysler Dell. He spoke to the investment summit last night,

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Speaker 2: and Christopher Luxon started his speech this morning to the

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Speaker 2: summit thanking Laddal for his very considered presentation and interestingly

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Speaker 2: he was Trump's favorite. Laddell was to take over the

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Speaker 2: OECTs CD's top job, but New Zealand voted against him

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Speaker 2: because the National Party changed its position and said you

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Speaker 2: can't forget the Trump factors. So interestingly, he's obviously come

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Speaker 2: around full circle, but the media couldn't find Laddell last

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Speaker 2: night's nowhere to be found, and today as well. Four

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Speaker 2: years ago, when he was Trump's chief policy advisor, he

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Speaker 2: spoke fondly of the President and how he the president

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Speaker 2: that is, likes debate. Haven't listened to.

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Speaker 3: What he really likes is vibrant conversation, and what he

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Speaker 3: really likes and engages with his debate. He loves people

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Speaker 3: to come on with strong opinions. He likes different opinions,

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Speaker 3: and he really wants to push people and understand different perspectives.

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Speaker 3: He's tough and he pushes me, pushes everyone else around there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well he most certainly does a lot of Zelensky

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Speaker 2: would testify to.

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Speaker 1: That he's pushing pretty much everyone at the moment. Hey

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Speaker 1: Tory Farno sounding off today again.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's incredible. I mean, having been a rate payer

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Speaker 2: in Wellington for many, many decades, I'm so pleased I'm

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Speaker 2: not there now having to vote because Tory far Now.

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Speaker 2: I hope she gets her come up and later this

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Speaker 2: year when it comes around. Because look, this was a

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Speaker 2: pretty simple thing. The Government said to counsels, put up

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Speaker 2: a plan and we'll see if we can help you

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Speaker 2: facilitate it. They didn't. The Wellington Council didn't reach the deadline.

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Speaker 2: It was too hard for them. Clearly, Canterbury didn't put

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Speaker 2: up one either, but eighteen other councils did so fun

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Speaker 2: Now was very much on her own. But look, she

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Speaker 2: called him not a very nice person in an interview

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Speaker 2: that she's just had. But she reckons her exchanges with

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister would benefit her politically. She said it

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Speaker 2: works for her because a lot of people in Wellington

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Speaker 2: don't like Luxon. This is what upset for Now so much.

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Speaker 4: Every other region has been able to come together, work

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Speaker 4: together over the last six months. Wellington has even shown

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Speaker 4: up with some proposal. That's a real disappointment, I'd say

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Speaker 4: to the people in the rate payers of Wellington, this

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Speaker 4: is a great part of the country and yet they

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Speaker 4: are leaders at a local government level can't come together

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Speaker 4: on a regional deal. Going to on waters are shambles

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Speaker 4: and we've obviously had issues in the Wellington District Council.

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Speaker 4: So it's a massive misk opportunity at a time when

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Speaker 4: this government's doing everything it can to attract capital and

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Speaker 4: infrastructure in this country.

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Speaker 2: You'd have to say, if you're a rate payer in Wellington,

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Speaker 2: you would say yes.

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Speaker 1: Remember all of those things.

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Speaker 2: Remember the billions of dollars that were laid aside to

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Speaker 2: get Wellington going.

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Speaker 1: Remember the I mean honestly, I mean that there's a

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Speaker 1: list as long as your arm. And yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: for her to take that personally and say that he's

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Speaker 1: a nasty person.

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Speaker 2: And Wellington is a great city. I love it, you know,

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Speaker 2: not at the moment, well the leadership has die.

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Speaker 1: The spent a lot of time downd that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now another bad pole. This is a new one out

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Speaker 1: to this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Came out this afternoon. This is a Torbot Mills poll

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Speaker 2: and it's for their clients and they are the Labor

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Speaker 2: Party's pollsters. But having said that, it really does mirror

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Speaker 2: the poll that came out earlier this week from Curia,

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Speaker 2: which is the National Party's posters. It shows that National

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Speaker 2: has dropped to thirty one percent. Labour's steady on thirty

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Speaker 2: four percent. Down National is down two percentage points. It's

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Speaker 2: really not good for the National Party at the moment,

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Speaker 2: Labor and the Greens and Party Mali. They would have

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Speaker 2: sixty one seats in Parliament, which would be enough if

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Speaker 2: an election was held today to hold the Treasury benches.

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Speaker 2: But look at early days, it's been one hell of

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Speaker 2: a time to it's like a p isn't challis coming

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Speaker 2: into government that has been so you wouldn't expect a

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Speaker 2: lot different. Although Chris lux and his personal rating is

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Speaker 2: now three percent behind Chris Hopkins on twenty four percent.

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Speaker 2: That's a very low rating for a prime minister.

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Speaker 1: But again it's like getting in It's like getting into

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Speaker 1: a car that's heavy, engine taken out of it and

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Speaker 1: trying to win a race.

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Speaker 2: Exactly what we Palky is out running along.

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Speaker 1: Like the Flinsteines. I mean, it's honestly yeah. And the

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Speaker 1: governments around the world are finding this problem, aren't they are,

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Speaker 1: cost of living and all of that sort of stuff. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: he's got to turn it around, doesn't he. That's his job.

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Speaker 2: He most certainly does, and he believes he can. So

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Speaker 2: good luck, let's hope, he says.

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Speaker 1: Very sober. Good to see you. We'll see you later on.

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