1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:13,707 Speaker 1: from News Talk ZEDB on news Talk ZIB. 3 00:00:13,867 --> 00:00:16,027 Speaker 2: You'll remember this from Shane van Gisbergen. 4 00:00:16,547 --> 00:00:16,947 Speaker 3: Sheen E. 5 00:00:17,027 --> 00:00:22,067 Speaker 2: Van gisberger has been perfect. He has navigated the streets 6 00:00:22,107 --> 00:00:24,067 Speaker 2: of Chicago to perfection. 7 00:00:24,507 --> 00:00:28,387 Speaker 3: The final time under the front stretch, he comes to 8 00:00:28,427 --> 00:00:29,547 Speaker 3: the checkered flag. 9 00:00:29,587 --> 00:00:37,747 Speaker 2: He's a very full street. Yes, indeed, Shane van Gisbergen 10 00:00:37,787 --> 00:00:41,747 Speaker 2: there with that win in Chicago and NASCAR. After that 11 00:00:41,787 --> 00:00:44,027 Speaker 2: switch a couple of years ago, he's had a season 12 00:00:44,427 --> 00:00:49,027 Speaker 2: in Exfinity and tomorrow morning in the showpiece of NASCAR, 13 00:00:49,187 --> 00:00:52,187 Speaker 2: the Daytona five hundred, one of the biggest events in 14 00:00:52,227 --> 00:00:55,707 Speaker 2: will motorsport, Shane van Gisbergen will be there and on 15 00:00:55,787 --> 00:00:58,627 Speaker 2: the start line, joining us state side to discuss as 16 00:00:58,787 --> 00:01:02,307 Speaker 2: NBC Motorsport journalist Nate Ryan Nate thinks, so joining us 17 00:01:02,387 --> 00:01:04,027 Speaker 2: on news Talk ZIB this afternoon. 18 00:01:04,067 --> 00:01:05,467 Speaker 3: Oh, it's a pleasure, thanks for having me. 19 00:01:05,667 --> 00:01:08,347 Speaker 2: Who it's hey, j shanevan guzburg and as we know 20 00:01:08,427 --> 00:01:11,627 Speaker 2: him down here in New Zealand to have his Diabletha 21 00:01:11,747 --> 00:01:16,227 Speaker 2: Daytona five hundred and really a matter of hours. Look, 22 00:01:16,227 --> 00:01:18,707 Speaker 2: I guess the countdowns on for shanevan Guzbergen from a 23 00:01:18,747 --> 00:01:22,267 Speaker 2: local perspective, what are you expecting from Shane Weng Guzbergen 24 00:01:22,307 --> 00:01:24,667 Speaker 2: and how different will this be for him as he 25 00:01:24,707 --> 00:01:26,387 Speaker 2: gets on the way in the early hours of Monday 26 00:01:26,427 --> 00:01:27,067 Speaker 2: morning at time. 27 00:01:27,987 --> 00:01:30,267 Speaker 3: It's gonna be extremely different from what he's used to 28 00:01:30,427 --> 00:01:32,507 Speaker 3: in the Supercar Series and what you guys have seen 29 00:01:32,547 --> 00:01:35,387 Speaker 3: down under in use in Australia. I mean, he's gonna 30 00:01:35,387 --> 00:01:38,827 Speaker 3: be on this oval and it's not anything like he's 31 00:01:38,827 --> 00:01:42,707 Speaker 3: ever experienced. It seems rather simplistic because it's essentially just 32 00:01:42,867 --> 00:01:47,267 Speaker 3: making four turns a lap. And you know, it's not 33 00:01:47,387 --> 00:01:50,387 Speaker 3: like road courses or street courses where there's elevation changes 34 00:01:50,427 --> 00:01:55,707 Speaker 3: and shifting and turns. This is it seems simple, like 35 00:01:55,787 --> 00:01:59,147 Speaker 3: I said, but it's a very dynamic process and I 36 00:01:59,187 --> 00:02:02,427 Speaker 3: think that's what SPG has struggled with so far, is 37 00:02:02,467 --> 00:02:04,907 Speaker 3: that he's trying to learn exactly where to put his 38 00:02:05,027 --> 00:02:07,827 Speaker 3: car on the track on every lap. And again, it 39 00:02:07,867 --> 00:02:09,747 Speaker 3: seems reductive. It seems like it should just be as 40 00:02:09,747 --> 00:02:12,507 Speaker 3: simple as just turning left, but there's actually a lot 41 00:02:12,507 --> 00:02:14,427 Speaker 3: more to it. There's a lot of nuances to it, 42 00:02:14,507 --> 00:02:16,787 Speaker 3: and I think that's what he'll be figuring out in 43 00:02:16,827 --> 00:02:18,747 Speaker 3: the Daytona five hundred, the biggest race of the year. 44 00:02:18,947 --> 00:02:21,867 Speaker 2: Has ex Finity a year in that last year equipped 45 00:02:21,907 --> 00:02:24,147 Speaker 2: him at all for what to speak tomorrow. 46 00:02:25,387 --> 00:02:28,067 Speaker 3: It certainly helped. You know, he didn't have any oval 47 00:02:28,107 --> 00:02:31,427 Speaker 3: experience before he got to NASCAR. He made his first 48 00:02:31,427 --> 00:02:34,867 Speaker 3: oval start less than two years ago in the Truck Series, 49 00:02:34,907 --> 00:02:37,107 Speaker 3: and like you said, then, he had a year in Exfinity. 50 00:02:37,147 --> 00:02:40,347 Speaker 3: He also did some Cup races as well, so he 51 00:02:40,387 --> 00:02:43,347 Speaker 3: doesn't come into this cold. But the thing that's different 52 00:02:43,547 --> 00:02:46,027 Speaker 3: about the Daytona five hundred is this is the Cup 53 00:02:46,067 --> 00:02:49,827 Speaker 3: Series and these are the very best drivers in America 54 00:02:49,947 --> 00:02:54,267 Speaker 3: in NASCAR, and they have just oodles of experience compared 55 00:02:54,267 --> 00:02:56,827 Speaker 3: to SVG on how to race these ovals, like I 56 00:02:56,867 --> 00:02:59,387 Speaker 3: was talking about, and it's not just about the fact 57 00:02:59,387 --> 00:03:03,747 Speaker 3: that this is an oval. It's a very particular specialized 58 00:03:03,787 --> 00:03:07,787 Speaker 3: type of racing. It's super speedway race. The horsepower is 59 00:03:07,867 --> 00:03:09,907 Speaker 3: choked down on all of these cars, so they run 60 00:03:09,947 --> 00:03:13,227 Speaker 3: in really tight packs and it's very very easy to 61 00:03:13,267 --> 00:03:15,507 Speaker 3: make a mistake that can take you from the lead 62 00:03:15,667 --> 00:03:18,507 Speaker 3: to twentieth in a half a lap. And it's also 63 00:03:18,547 --> 00:03:20,187 Speaker 3: very easy to make a mistake to make a bobble 64 00:03:20,227 --> 00:03:24,427 Speaker 3: that can trigger a huge multi car wreck, and unfortunately 65 00:03:24,587 --> 00:03:27,347 Speaker 3: spg's already been in a wreck this week during the 66 00:03:27,427 --> 00:03:30,547 Speaker 3: qualifying race Thursday, so hopefully that doesn't happen Sunday, but 67 00:03:31,027 --> 00:03:33,827 Speaker 3: it's very difficult to avoid. We're sure to see big 68 00:03:33,867 --> 00:03:36,667 Speaker 3: crashes at the Daytona five hundred. Usually you know, forty 69 00:03:36,707 --> 00:03:38,787 Speaker 3: one car field. I would not surprise me at all 70 00:03:38,787 --> 00:03:43,147 Speaker 3: if only fifteen twenty cars finish, and hopefully Shane Vegas 71 00:03:43,147 --> 00:03:43,867 Speaker 3: Berging is one of them. 72 00:03:44,067 --> 00:03:45,707 Speaker 2: I sort of quote from him saying he had to 73 00:03:45,707 --> 00:03:48,027 Speaker 2: be prepared to wreck his car, and who's quite the 74 00:03:48,107 --> 00:03:51,147 Speaker 2: mindset shift from what he's been used to in Super guys. 75 00:03:51,187 --> 00:03:52,827 Speaker 2: How how tricky is that for him? 76 00:03:53,907 --> 00:03:57,507 Speaker 3: You know Jeff Burton, who's a NASCAR an NBC analyst 77 00:03:57,627 --> 00:04:01,547 Speaker 3: and raced in NASCAR for twenty plus years, won all 78 00:04:01,587 --> 00:04:05,387 Speaker 3: the big races. He said about racing at Daytona is 79 00:04:05,467 --> 00:04:07,787 Speaker 3: that what's really hard about it is you don't go 80 00:04:07,827 --> 00:04:11,627 Speaker 3: into many races expecting to wreck, and like I said, 81 00:04:11,747 --> 00:04:14,267 Speaker 3: more than half the field probably is going to wreck 82 00:04:14,307 --> 00:04:17,547 Speaker 3: in the Daytona five hundred, So it's really difficult I 83 00:04:17,547 --> 00:04:20,827 Speaker 3: think for drivers to adjust to that mindset and to 84 00:04:20,947 --> 00:04:24,307 Speaker 3: just understand that there is a better than fifty to 85 00:04:24,347 --> 00:04:26,147 Speaker 3: fifty chance your car is gonna end up in the 86 00:04:26,187 --> 00:04:30,507 Speaker 3: wall here, and you can't really hold back because of that. 87 00:04:30,667 --> 00:04:32,267 Speaker 3: I think you have to kind of rewire your brain 88 00:04:32,307 --> 00:04:35,667 Speaker 3: a little bit and be cautious when you're in the 89 00:04:35,747 --> 00:04:37,627 Speaker 3: draft and you're in the middle of all these cars 90 00:04:37,627 --> 00:04:39,987 Speaker 3: that are inches apart at two hundred miles an hour, 91 00:04:40,387 --> 00:04:43,667 Speaker 3: But you also have to take risks, and it's a 92 00:04:43,707 --> 00:04:46,427 Speaker 3: really fine balance, and that's why it's so difficult for 93 00:04:46,787 --> 00:04:49,627 Speaker 3: someone who has inexperienced as SVG on the ovals. So 94 00:04:50,187 --> 00:04:51,947 Speaker 3: I get what he's saying when he says that you 95 00:04:52,067 --> 00:04:54,627 Speaker 3: really have to be ready to kind of totally twist 96 00:04:54,627 --> 00:04:56,987 Speaker 3: your mindset around from being a three time Supercars champion. 97 00:04:57,107 --> 00:04:59,347 Speaker 2: So what does a good result for him look like tomorrow? 98 00:04:59,387 --> 00:05:01,267 Speaker 2: Is it as simple as you see it? Finishing the Rice? 99 00:05:02,347 --> 00:05:04,987 Speaker 3: I think top ten would be an excellent result for him, 100 00:05:05,387 --> 00:05:08,227 Speaker 3: you know, finishing, I think, like you said, would be great. 101 00:05:08,587 --> 00:05:11,067 Speaker 3: But if he's still on the track with like fifteen 102 00:05:11,107 --> 00:05:13,427 Speaker 3: to twenty laps to go, he's probably gonna have a 103 00:05:13,507 --> 00:05:16,947 Speaker 3: chance to finish in the top fifteen. Presuming he's still 104 00:05:16,947 --> 00:05:19,587 Speaker 3: in the lead lap, because again this is a real 105 00:05:20,027 --> 00:05:24,267 Speaker 3: strange type of racing where you know, we've seen flukey 106 00:05:24,347 --> 00:05:28,387 Speaker 3: winners at the Daytona five hundred, where it doesn't always 107 00:05:28,387 --> 00:05:32,147 Speaker 3: favor the most experienced drivers, even though it's really hard, 108 00:05:32,467 --> 00:05:34,427 Speaker 3: I think as a rookie to come in here and 109 00:05:34,467 --> 00:05:37,107 Speaker 3: just win. But if you managed to sort of it's 110 00:05:37,187 --> 00:05:39,347 Speaker 3: it's like a game of survivor if you manage to 111 00:05:39,387 --> 00:05:42,067 Speaker 3: like just stay out there and avoid the big crashes, 112 00:05:42,627 --> 00:05:44,587 Speaker 3: and you're in the mix with like twenty to go, 113 00:05:45,467 --> 00:05:47,587 Speaker 3: and you know, at that point spg Will had more 114 00:05:47,627 --> 00:05:49,907 Speaker 3: than four hundred miles of experience on the high banks 115 00:05:49,907 --> 00:05:52,267 Speaker 3: of the Deterian National Speedway. It's not out of the 116 00:05:52,267 --> 00:05:54,787 Speaker 3: realm with possibility that he could finish top ten or 117 00:05:54,827 --> 00:05:55,987 Speaker 3: even you know, top five. 118 00:05:56,627 --> 00:05:59,227 Speaker 2: Another plan and that's right, another drive at debuting tomorrow 119 00:05:59,227 --> 00:06:01,107 Speaker 2: who we're familiar with down here from from yous of 120 00:06:01,147 --> 00:06:04,867 Speaker 2: watching Indy Cow with Scott Dickson, Scott McLaughlin, Helio Kestronievis 121 00:06:05,067 --> 00:06:07,947 Speaker 2: to make his debut a well, which is pretty specially 122 00:06:07,947 --> 00:06:10,067 Speaker 2: he's won the Indy five hundred of course four times, 123 00:06:10,147 --> 00:06:13,587 Speaker 2: so to have a racer of his caliber crossing over 124 00:06:13,747 --> 00:06:16,547 Speaker 2: what's the reception, Like the Hilio Kesterroniva is making his 125 00:06:16,667 --> 00:06:17,947 Speaker 2: Daytona five hundred debut. 126 00:06:18,747 --> 00:06:21,147 Speaker 3: I think the reception has been great. And NASCAR actually 127 00:06:21,227 --> 00:06:24,907 Speaker 3: created a special exemption for Leo Castro and Nevs so 128 00:06:24,907 --> 00:06:26,507 Speaker 3: he could make this race. He didn't make the race 129 00:06:26,547 --> 00:06:29,787 Speaker 3: actually on speed or through the race. He had used 130 00:06:29,787 --> 00:06:33,467 Speaker 3: this special provisional that NASCAR created for in this case 131 00:06:33,507 --> 00:06:36,547 Speaker 3: a four time Indy five hundred winners for any world 132 00:06:36,627 --> 00:06:40,387 Speaker 3: class driver in Leo Castro Nevs. Certainly is that. But unfortunately, 133 00:06:40,427 --> 00:06:43,547 Speaker 3: like Eleo's had a really tough week. This is his 134 00:06:43,667 --> 00:06:47,667 Speaker 3: NASCAR debut. He's never raced in stock cars at this level, 135 00:06:47,987 --> 00:06:51,107 Speaker 3: at this speedway, and he's raised a couple of support races, 136 00:06:51,507 --> 00:06:54,147 Speaker 3: he's raced in the qualifying race, and he's crashed in 137 00:06:54,187 --> 00:06:56,347 Speaker 3: all of them, and he had a really bad rooky 138 00:06:56,387 --> 00:06:59,987 Speaker 3: mistake in the qualifying race Thursday. But all of that 139 00:07:00,027 --> 00:07:03,787 Speaker 3: being said, he did manage to finish fifth despite being 140 00:07:03,907 --> 00:07:06,907 Speaker 3: one of the early crashes in the support race the 141 00:07:06,987 --> 00:07:11,227 Speaker 3: day before the Daytona five hundred. So again, like I 142 00:07:11,267 --> 00:07:13,587 Speaker 3: think like he's got a shot if he's there at 143 00:07:13,627 --> 00:07:16,307 Speaker 3: the end. But regardless to your point, the fact that 144 00:07:16,347 --> 00:07:19,427 Speaker 3: he's even in this race certainly raises the profile for NASCAR, 145 00:07:19,587 --> 00:07:21,667 Speaker 3: just like SPG being in the race. I mean, having 146 00:07:21,747 --> 00:07:25,107 Speaker 3: two world class drivers like SPG and Elio Castro Nevez 147 00:07:25,187 --> 00:07:27,307 Speaker 3: in the biggest race of the NASCAR season, it's a 148 00:07:27,307 --> 00:07:28,187 Speaker 3: big win for NASCAR. 149 00:07:28,467 --> 00:07:30,907 Speaker 2: Some of that listers will know the name Daytona five hundred, 150 00:07:30,907 --> 00:07:32,387 Speaker 2: may not be as familiar with it, but I was 151 00:07:32,427 --> 00:07:35,227 Speaker 2: watching the Fox Sports coverage of the Super Bowl last week, 152 00:07:35,227 --> 00:07:38,267 Speaker 2: though were advertising it heavily. It's really is one of 153 00:07:38,307 --> 00:07:41,067 Speaker 2: the jewels in the crown of American motus. What world modorsport, 154 00:07:41,147 --> 00:07:41,467 Speaker 2: isn't it. 155 00:07:42,307 --> 00:07:44,467 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is the race every NASCAR driver 156 00:07:44,627 --> 00:07:47,267 Speaker 3: wants to win. It's just like the Indianapolis five hundred, which, 157 00:07:47,467 --> 00:07:49,507 Speaker 3: as you probably know, Scott mcglonchwin was on the pole 158 00:07:49,907 --> 00:07:52,627 Speaker 3: for that race last year, and I mean just winning 159 00:07:52,627 --> 00:07:54,747 Speaker 3: the poll for that race attracted a ton of attention. 160 00:07:54,907 --> 00:07:57,387 Speaker 3: But when you win the Indy five hundred, when you 161 00:07:57,427 --> 00:08:00,667 Speaker 3: win the Daytona five hundred, that's essentially how you're introduced 162 00:08:00,987 --> 00:08:03,547 Speaker 3: for the rest of your career as an American race 163 00:08:03,587 --> 00:08:07,867 Speaker 3: car driver. You're you're you know, You're Daytona five hundred winner. 164 00:08:07,907 --> 00:08:10,587 Speaker 3: Austin Syndric. No matter what Austin Cindric does for the 165 00:08:10,587 --> 00:08:13,307 Speaker 3: rest of his career, He's going to be first introduced 166 00:08:13,467 --> 00:08:16,187 Speaker 3: as a Daytona five hundred winner. So yeah, this is 167 00:08:16,187 --> 00:08:17,547 Speaker 3: the big one. This is the crown jewel of the 168 00:08:17,627 --> 00:08:20,067 Speaker 3: NASCAR season. It kicks off their year, which is a 169 00:08:20,147 --> 00:08:22,787 Speaker 3: little bit weird to have the Quasi super Bowl be 170 00:08:22,867 --> 00:08:25,787 Speaker 3: the season opener, but that's the way NASCAR does it. 171 00:08:25,787 --> 00:08:29,467 Speaker 3: So be a ton of eyeballs at Daytternational Speedway watching 172 00:08:29,507 --> 00:08:31,227 Speaker 3: what happens on the Daytona five hundred. 173 00:08:31,107 --> 00:08:32,827 Speaker 2: And just finally, n that's so grateful for good time. 174 00:08:32,947 --> 00:08:35,107 Speaker 2: Just going back to Shine Van Gisberg. In terms of 175 00:08:35,187 --> 00:08:38,667 Speaker 2: the year, a heats a big year again obviously for him. 176 00:08:38,667 --> 00:08:41,147 Speaker 2: What will success look like for Shane Van Gisberg in 177 00:08:41,187 --> 00:08:42,747 Speaker 2: this year, Well, it's a. 178 00:08:42,747 --> 00:08:45,307 Speaker 3: Really good be an interesting year for SPG because, like 179 00:08:45,347 --> 00:08:47,987 Speaker 3: I mentioned, he's really I think going to struggle to 180 00:08:47,987 --> 00:08:50,147 Speaker 3: get acclimated on the ovals. I think winning on the 181 00:08:50,187 --> 00:08:53,267 Speaker 3: ovals is going to be extremely difficult. But NASCAR has 182 00:08:53,307 --> 00:08:56,587 Speaker 3: this unique playoff system where if you win a race, 183 00:08:57,227 --> 00:09:00,267 Speaker 3: you qualify for their ten race dass to the championship, 184 00:09:00,307 --> 00:09:02,107 Speaker 3: which are called the playoffs at the end of season, 185 00:09:02,627 --> 00:09:06,067 Speaker 3: and there are six or seven street race and road 186 00:09:06,107 --> 00:09:09,747 Speaker 3: course races on the Cup Series season, and in every 187 00:09:09,747 --> 00:09:12,107 Speaker 3: one of those races, SPG is going to be a 188 00:09:12,147 --> 00:09:16,267 Speaker 3: favorite to win, especially at Chicago, where as you know, 189 00:09:16,587 --> 00:09:19,467 Speaker 3: he won in his first time ever in NASCAR in 190 00:09:19,547 --> 00:09:21,627 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. He probably would have won the race 191 00:09:21,707 --> 00:09:24,307 Speaker 3: last year if you wouldn't have been wrecked. So SBG 192 00:09:24,427 --> 00:09:27,307 Speaker 3: has a really good chance as a rookie of running 193 00:09:27,347 --> 00:09:30,787 Speaker 3: for a championship in NASCAR's premier series because he's probably 194 00:09:30,787 --> 00:09:33,267 Speaker 3: going to qualify the playoffs by getting a win either 195 00:09:33,267 --> 00:09:35,707 Speaker 3: at Chicago or one of those road courses. So it's 196 00:09:35,707 --> 00:09:37,587 Speaker 3: going to be a learning year for SPG, but it 197 00:09:37,627 --> 00:09:39,867 Speaker 3: could be a very successful year for them as well well. 198 00:09:39,907 --> 00:09:42,587 Speaker 2: Plenty of final wait for the year ahead. But Daytona 199 00:09:42,627 --> 00:09:45,467 Speaker 2: five hundred tomorrow, enjoy the racing. Nate Ryan, thanks so 200 00:09:45,547 --> 00:09:47,067 Speaker 2: much of your time here on Newstalk ZB. 201 00:09:48,027 --> 00:09:49,067 Speaker 3: Thanks so much for having me. 202 00:09:49,427 --> 00:09:52,387 Speaker 2: That is Nate Ryan, NBC motorsport journalist joining the program. 203 00:09:52,427 --> 00:09:56,227 Speaker 2: You see Daytona five hundred early tomorrow morning. I think 204 00:09:56,267 --> 00:09:59,907 Speaker 2: I saw about seven thirty am, if memory serves for 205 00:10:00,067 --> 00:10:02,627 Speaker 2: I think they bought Ford half an hour an hour. 206 00:10:03,267 --> 00:10:05,387 Speaker 2: We'll double check that and come back with an official 207 00:10:05,427 --> 00:10:08,947 Speaker 2: time after the break here on News Talk ZEB. But 208 00:10:08,987 --> 00:10:11,147 Speaker 2: I did see the make a change because there's storms 209 00:10:11,187 --> 00:10:14,627 Speaker 2: on the way or something like that. So seven thirty 210 00:10:14,707 --> 00:10:16,747 Speaker 2: I've got the night of approval from producer Andy, So 211 00:10:16,787 --> 00:10:20,427 Speaker 2: seven thirty tomorrow morning Shane Van Gisberg and one of 212 00:10:20,507 --> 00:10:23,587 Speaker 2: motorsports biggest events, the Daytona five hundred. Very cool to 213 00:10:23,627 --> 00:10:26,787 Speaker 2: see here we are on the start line for that event. 214 00:10:27,707 --> 00:10:30,907 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 215 00:10:31,027 --> 00:10:34,307 Speaker 1: to News Talk said B weekends from midday, or follow 216 00:10:34,347 --> 00:10:35,947 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.