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Speaker 4: expert advice for your decorating projects. Well two from two

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Speaker 4: for the black Caps and empathetic over u AE Afghanistan

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Speaker 4: proved a little tougher man imagine will Spinbrey a downfall

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Speaker 4: for our limited bowling resources or the form of Russian

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Speaker 4: Ravendra used pictures and Pakistan or Bangladesh is either one

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Speaker 4: of them a winner after Pakistan retracting their boycotts of

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Speaker 4: a match with India. And if you could change one

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Speaker 4: of cricket's laws, what would it be. We'll talk about

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Speaker 4: that a little later on, but I'm going to talk

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Speaker 4: about T twenty crickets the World T twenty and if

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Speaker 4: I never hear another national anthem, it will be way

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Speaker 4: too soon. Welcome to Peter Holland and the Jeremy Cane.

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Speaker 4: You've enjoyed the national anthems.

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Speaker 3: Don't listen to them, turn the sound down.

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Speaker 2: I stand up for all of them.

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Speaker 4: On your feet, yeah, ah.

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Speaker 2: To balance on one leg sometimes.

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Speaker 4: Which one.

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Speaker 2: It's a good one? Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I got to say I have liked a lot of

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Speaker 3: what I've seen in it, just in a broad sense,

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Speaker 3: and I was probably skeptic when the number of teams

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Speaker 3: But I think on reflection it's been very good and

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Speaker 3: it's been interesting to watch good cricket all round, from

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Speaker 3: the media through to the UAE. Yes they got flogged,

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Speaker 3: but it's it's it's been good. It's competitive stuff out there.

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Speaker 3: General statement, I couldn't.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't disagree with that, actually, not that I've seen

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Speaker 2: as much as you have. Clearly, Moose it's too much

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Speaker 2: I was quite I thought Netherlands actually look at very

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Speaker 2: because they pushed Pakistan, didn't they I think in the

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Speaker 3: Well, well on that point, had it not been for well,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't the easiest catch, but there was a catch

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Speaker 3: it was dropped, they then flogged about twenty on runs.

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Speaker 3: That was well and truly in their grasp and they

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Speaker 3: which was great because the rest of the teams called Akerman, Levitt,

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Speaker 4: The interesting thing is that there was a drop catch

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Speaker 3: Please but realistic.

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Speaker 6: yeah one seventy as well underpar and with our batting.

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Speaker 4: So looking forward to emphatic when but you'd have to

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Speaker 4: I think it's going to be the case though, Mary's

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Speaker 4: The pictures where they go back for a second crack

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my observation was as if to my earlier point

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Speaker 3: He's got to have him on the team. And they're

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Speaker 4: But sorry, we've once been boiled down. Bracewell is coming

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Speaker 2: at Chennai for that match, so they've now experienced both

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was an interesting feature from from the point

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Speaker 4: at that rate, it might be a different story against

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Speaker 4: South Africa. But you know, those singles are still important,

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Speaker 3: Look I think I've been quite impressed by Finale and

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Speaker 2: Has been following it for years.

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Speaker 4: Remember the old day's Jerry, when you can stand at

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Speaker 3: your point. I don't know, I'm going yeah, absolutely certainly

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Speaker 3: an old old team out of ours would have loved that.

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Speaker 3: Brian Badgacida, well, he would have been right unto that

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Speaker 3: boundaries and stuff.

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Speaker 2: But I.

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Speaker 3: Looked at a lot of that stuff. To me, the

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Speaker 3: thing that strikes me around the change that was proposed

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Speaker 3: is the is the Laminader Bat's idea because I had

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Speaker 3: a look at what the price of a bat costs,

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Speaker 3: which I knew was quite high, but I was way

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Speaker 3: out of market. Grain Ekels Legend bat was being marked up,

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Speaker 3: marked down to two thousand and seven hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: three dollars from three and a half thousand dollars. That

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Speaker 3: is just unbelievable. So if you want to promote the game,

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Speaker 3: you've got to make it affordable. So Laminada Bats, that's

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Speaker 3: going to be the impact. I can only say more

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Speaker 3: of this, please, because I just think it's it's if

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Speaker 3: you've got to even a even a standard old back,

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Speaker 3: it's still going to cost you a thousand dollars, not

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Speaker 3: what you think little risk of the kit. So how

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Speaker 3: do you get kids involved in the game? At that

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Speaker 3: sort of price. It's just whoa here point? Yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: that's the thing. Strikes me. One more rule if I

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Speaker 3: if I could change it for the women's game, I

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Speaker 3: would shorten the pitch to twenty meters.

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Speaker 4: Interesting, somebody brought somebody brought that up with me, and

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Speaker 4: I thought of himself, we must discuss this. It's an

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Speaker 4: interesting point, and we'll have a look at that on

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Speaker 4: another occasion, because I think it might change the women's game.

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Speaker 4: Umpire Coney, what law would you like to change?

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Speaker 2: I think I would just I was I would think

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Speaker 2: overthrows once the balls come in and hit the stumps. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I think you really don't want to penalize a piece

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Speaker 2: of decent cricket, accurate cricket. Now, I don't know how

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Speaker 2: you guys feel about that, but I'm not sure whether

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Speaker 2: I mean, it happened last night, didn't it. Niche him

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Speaker 2: threw the ball in from the leg side, hit the

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Speaker 2: stumps and the guy wasn't out. But then then they

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Speaker 2: get another two or three runs. Now, do you want

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Speaker 2: to prevent field as having a crack, because that's the

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Speaker 2: thing that kind of almost happens there is that you say, well,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to let this one go because just

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Speaker 2: in case I hit the stumps, it's not a big target.

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Speaker 2: And I just feel sometimes that we penalize good cricket

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Speaker 2: and I don't think that should happen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good point though, But Ben Stakes probably wouldn't agree

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Speaker 4: with you, would he recalling it didn't hit the stumps.

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Speaker 2: Well, it didn't hit the stumps.

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Speaker 4: That hit his bat, Yeah, managed to get his bat

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Speaker 4: in the way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, being dead.

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Speaker 3: What you're saying is that once it hits that or

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Speaker 3: play it at the ball as.

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Speaker 2: Well, when you're bold, it's kind of dead, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: When they know, it's certainly a death. And I just

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Speaker 2: feel that that maybe that could be considered. I'm not

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure whether it'll be accepted because they say

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Speaker 2: the balls still live at that point. But I would

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Speaker 2: have thought the ball should should be dead once it

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Speaker 2: hits the stumps anyway.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I just thought i'd toss it up the

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Speaker 4: krick and far. I've got the details of the changes.

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Speaker 4: The MCC basically said when they issued these changes, there

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Speaker 4: are seventy three material changes to the laws, along with

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Speaker 4: some linguistic changes. Make of that what you will.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, well, I had to read of the of

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Speaker 3: the of the of the of the length that you

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Speaker 3: sent through Brian, for which thank you, and I thought, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to be an umpire because I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to wrap my hit around what they're trying to say.

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Speaker 5: Here.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking ambiguity, I'm looking at subjectivity, and as you're

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Speaker 3: rarely pointed out, only seventy three of them.

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Speaker 4: And of course there were gendered language changes as well.

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Speaker 4: That's another one to do. So they're the things. Thanks guys,

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Speaker 4: great to review the first couple of games, and we'll

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Speaker 4: talk about the South Africa and Canada games when next

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Speaker 4: we meet on the front foot and I hope it

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Speaker 4: remains as exciting for you, Moose as it has been

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Speaker 4: for other people watching on television.

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Speaker 3: You've got just very quickly. Can I make one last point?

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Speaker 3: Is Steve Smith, who's no longer in the Australian team,

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Speaker 3: going to be the what's your name? Lindsay Crumb the

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Speaker 3: US skier at the age of forty one, because I

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Speaker 3: think Steve Smith is still going to be playing at

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Speaker 3: the age of forty five trying to get in the

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Speaker 3: team and someone's going to say Steve, now.

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Speaker 4: Well, well, yeah, you could, you could stand for selector

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Speaker 4: in Australia. But you know, he's he's still the the

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Speaker 4: go to man, isn't he.

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Speaker 3: Well he is, and and of course he had a

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Speaker 3: phenomenal big bash and it was harder to drop him.

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Speaker 3: So if they don't do well, there's been a lot

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Speaker 3: of fingerpointing, worn't they the most?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I agree, he's he's he's adapted his game, hasn't he

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Speaker 2: And he's he's moved on with the times, whereas perhaps

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Speaker 2: you might argue that that Kane was unable to do that.

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Speaker 2: Now Steve Smith can.

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Speaker 4: Yep, it's definitely well, yeah, you're going and enjoy some

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Speaker 4: national anthems. Jerry Olgan my glove punching. I didn't do

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Speaker 4: any glove punching in those days because I missed every time.

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Speaker 2: I was always in pretty good form.

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Speaker 3: And the last punches I saw was Green Alabaster and

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Speaker 3: Mike Shriveden and a Hawk Cup match at Queen's Park

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Speaker 3: and they were having a little bit of a.

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Speaker 4: Can hardly imagine those two throwing punches near mind? Nice, Well,

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Speaker 4: we're talking to.

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Speaker 2: Next week, okay, all right, all the.

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Speaker 4: Summers.

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