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Speaker 1: Ah, good old politics. Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Ah did make a comment in the House. My comment

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Speaker 2: was this, you had not across your brief. That was

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Speaker 2: my comment, and the House yesterday come so you you

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Speaker 2: could have a.

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Speaker 1: Little bit of back and forth. Then later on the afternoon,

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Speaker 1: Mark Mitchell was accused of barring Ginny Anderson from visiting

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Speaker 1: the Albany police station. Mitchell says he can't support a

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Speaker 1: generic request to visit a station with no context in

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Speaker 1: a week's notice. Anderson claims the Police Minister are scared

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Speaker 1: of what she might find out. The Police Minister Marke

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Speaker 1: Mitchell's with us very good morning. Are you are you

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Speaker 1: a monumental hypocrite?

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Speaker 2: No, not at all, not at all. If it's nice

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Speaker 2: that the eight months in the opposition police spokesmen spokes

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Speaker 2: versus has shown interested visits and of course I'm going

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Speaker 2: to support and facilitate those where i can. There is

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Speaker 2: a reason why you have to request to be able

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Speaker 2: to visit the police station is because they are operational.

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Speaker 2: They've got workloads, they've got appointments, they've got offenders and

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Speaker 2: victims in police stations. It's not a library. And when

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Speaker 2: a request comes through, specify who you actually want fleet

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Speaker 2: with so that we can actually check and make sure

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Speaker 2: that that person is available and not tied up doing police.

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Speaker 1: With Okay, so if she comes at what's the timeframe,

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Speaker 1: by the way, that's acceptable.

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Speaker 2: If a week isn't, well, give us much notice as

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Speaker 2: you can. I mean, I'm the police Minister, and I

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Speaker 2: give as much notice as I can when I'm visiting

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Speaker 2: police stations. And by the way, I try to keep

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Speaker 2: them as lokey as possible because the last thing our

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Speaker 2: hard working frontline police officers need is politicians rolling in.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm saying that. Now, I'm saying that I encourage

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Speaker 2: local MP's to have very strong, trusted working relationships with

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Speaker 2: area and district commanders because our area and district commanders

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Speaker 2: are leaders in their communities, as are our electric MPs,

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Speaker 2: and that does happen. There is regular quarterly meetings that

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Speaker 2: happen and bringing peace together. Look, and the other thing

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Speaker 2: I want to say, Mike, is that I support all

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Speaker 2: of our opposition spokespeople. In my emergency management portfolio. I

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Speaker 2: make my officials available. I've provided briefings to labor and

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Speaker 2: green spokespeople as in WAIRA for the local state of emergency.

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Speaker 2: I bought the labor MP Kushler that throw raf at

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Speaker 2: the MP into my briefings and included her so that

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Speaker 2: she was across and knew what was happening. I've got

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Speaker 2: a public safety meeting in Auckland tomorrow morning, my second one.

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Speaker 2: I invite Chloe Swarbrick along to that as the local MP,

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Speaker 2: and she attends and comes. I was in Phil Twyford's

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Speaker 2: electorate office last week helping him with a constituent matter.

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Speaker 2: I work across party because at the end of the day, people,

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Speaker 2: when they're stressed and they need help, do not care

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Speaker 2: about politics. But if the opposition, if the opposition police

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Speaker 2: spokesperson wants access to police stations, please give us some notice,

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Speaker 2: Please give us some specicifty around who they want to

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Speaker 2: meet with. And by the way, the best person to

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Speaker 2: meet with and get information from is the police commissioner.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Having said all that, what's the time frame? Because

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Speaker 1: you didn't to that question. If a week isn't good enough,

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Speaker 1: what is good enough?

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Speaker 2: No? I said, look as much notice as possible.

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Speaker 1: What if she goes two weeks notice and you go,

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Speaker 1: that's not good enough. I don't want to keep getting

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Speaker 1: back on the program.

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Speaker 2: Here there's police better. I'll do two or three weeks

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Speaker 2: for a month out. But look, if she wants to

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Speaker 2: make an application for a week, it's fine. I'll support

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Speaker 2: her as much as I can with that. It is

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Speaker 2: important for our democracy. However, please specify who you want

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Speaker 2: to meet with. Just rocking up to a police station

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Speaker 2: with another MP and walking in and wandering around and

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Speaker 2: trying to find and talk to commissioned officers. That is

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Speaker 2: not a goer. It's not a library. It's an operation

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Speaker 2: in the police station.

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Speaker 1: All the examples you gave and your offers gave me

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Speaker 1: the same examples. They're all under the auspices of your

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Speaker 1: emergency management portfolio. There doesn't seem to be anything cooperative

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Speaker 1: under your police portfolio. Are you but sensitive about that?

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Speaker 2: No, Chloe Swarbrick, that's that is public safety. That's the

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Speaker 2: Auckland CBD. That's getting that, that's that's working on making

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Speaker 2: our CBD safer. And you've seen that there's been a

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Speaker 2: lot of resource put into that. And I can bring

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Speaker 2: Chloe into that because she's the locally.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let me just play this and you will

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Speaker 1: clear this up once and for all. This is March

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: This is you. I checked with two other police past

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Speaker 2: police listens. They said they never bought any requests from

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Speaker 2: the opposition spokesperson. You know, she's been petulant and vindictive

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Speaker 2: and making a personal that's third world stuff that she

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Speaker 2: might as well go and join the cabinet Somalia.

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Speaker 1: So that's Poto Williams. Of course you're referring to. So

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Speaker 1: this you argue black and blue is different and you're

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Speaker 1: a good guy.

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Speaker 2: And what I was talking about, that is where I

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Speaker 2: was talking about. That is a request to meet with

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Speaker 2: the police commissioner. I was blocked from meeting with the

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Speaker 2: police commissioner. If Ginny Anderson had sent for a request

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Speaker 2: yesterday to meet with the police commissioner, it would have

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Speaker 2: been approved and sent back within thirty seconds. She didn't

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Speaker 2: do that. She requests to get it on an operational

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Speaker 2: police station with another list MP and specify who she

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Speaker 2: was going to meet with. And if she keeps sending

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Speaker 2: requests like that, they're going to be declined. Please, she

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Speaker 2: is welcome to go to a police station. She is

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Speaker 2: welcome to go and speak to someone. Please idea who

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Speaker 2: she wants to speak to us. That the Crime Control manager,

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Speaker 2: is that, the area commander, is that, the district commander,

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Speaker 2: is that the inspector in charge for HR Exactly? Is it?

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Speaker 2: Because just rocking up to a police station and saying

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Speaker 2: I want to walk in there and just talk to

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Speaker 2: commissioned officers is probably going to continue to get the

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Speaker 2: same response if she comes back to when she says

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Speaker 2: I want it gives us as much notice as possible.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to visit this police station. This is who

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Speaker 2: I'd like to visit. And by the way, it should

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Speaker 2: be a commissioned police officer, because our front line police

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Speaker 2: officers don't want to get tied up in politics or

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Speaker 2: necessarily talking to politicians. Then I will approve that no

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Speaker 2: problem at all. But the example that you just gave

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Speaker 2: there was photo Williams blocking me. Is the police spokesperson

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Speaker 2: to speak to the commissioner. And by the way, I've

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Speaker 2: had several quests. I had timoth and Paul come up

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Speaker 2: to me the other day in Parliament say, Hey, is

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Speaker 2: there any chance i'd get access to questions and police?

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Speaker 2: I said, of course, I said, put a request to

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Speaker 2: let me know what you need and make it happen,

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Speaker 2: all right, and.

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Speaker 1: See it We'll see you next Wednesday. I appreciate it

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Speaker 1: very much. Mike Mitchell, Policeman, is tay clear enough? I

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Speaker 1: think it does, doesn't to agree.

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