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Speaker 1: There's a reason politicians can't agree on much of anything.

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Speaker 1: Luxeon's in Australia at the moment. He's on an infrastructure

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Speaker 1: whistle stop tour, the question why are we so bad

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Speaker 1: and they the Aussies, seemingly so much better at doing it.

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Speaker 1: There are many reasons, like public private partnerships user pays.

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Speaker 1: In New South Wales they've used asset sales to fund

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Speaker 1: this stuff. But it's also crucially bipart as an agreement

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Speaker 1: on what to build. Luxon says that the NATS and

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Speaker 1: labor need consensus on what projects will get cash.

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Speaker 2: The challenge in New Zealander is you get a change

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Speaker 2: in political cycle or economic cycle and you get on

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Speaker 2: off on off, on off, and nothing's happening.

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Speaker 1: So the construction industry they need to know the pipeline

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Speaker 1: of work that's in front of them or it's not

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Speaker 1: going to be viable. You know, the roads of national significance.

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Speaker 1: They were on and then they're off, and then they're

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Speaker 1: on and then they're off. And another example this week

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Speaker 1: Energy Resources alted on this show called for bipartis an

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Speaker 1: agreement on oil and gas exploration. Sorry it was actually

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Speaker 1: last week. I think you said that on Friday, you know,

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Speaker 1: to help business invest and plan to avoid an energy crisis.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing, It's not going to happen in

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Speaker 1: either case, which sucks because it's us, the voters that

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Speaker 1: ultimately pay the price in electricity prices or traffic. The

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Speaker 1: reason well, our political system is based on the Westminster model,

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Speaker 1: which is purposely adversarial. We encourage competition. We literally have

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Speaker 1: an opposition party to oppose the government. It's set up

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Speaker 1: to fail when it comes to agreement. So I won't

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Speaker 1: behold of my breath for our parliamentarians to suddenly start

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