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Speaker 1: So the future of New Zealand's film sector is facing

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Speaker 1: uncertainty all over again because Donald Trump has today doubled

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Speaker 1: down on his promise to add a one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: tariff on any US movies filmed overseas. Now this means

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Speaker 1: blockbusters like Megan, a Minecraft movie, the Avatar movies would

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Speaker 1: all be subject to a very hefty price tag. Irene

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Speaker 1: Gardner as the president of the Screen Producers New Zealand

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Speaker 1: and with us Hey, Iren, Hi there, Given that Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump has mentioned this again, does it look to you

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Speaker 1: like he means It?

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Speaker 2: Really hard to say, But the trouble is, because he's

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Speaker 2: now mentioned it twice, it creates a lot of uncertainty

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Speaker 2: and panic, and that in itself can have a negative

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Speaker 2: impact on levels of production globally. And here I was

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Speaker 2: surprised it came up again because when he first mentioned

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Speaker 2: it in May, like his own screen industry, the American

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Speaker 2: screen industry said no, no, no, no, this will not work.

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Speaker 2: This will be to our detriment, let alone you know,

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Speaker 2: other people in the world world. So yeah, I'm a

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Speaker 2: bit surprised that he's mentioned it again. But I just

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Speaker 2: it's so unworkable. I just really can't see how you

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Speaker 2: would even do this what he's talking about, you mean logistically, well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean tariffs are usually on goods. This is kind

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Speaker 2: of more about services, and there's sort of a total

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Speaker 2: confusion about you know, it seems to be the problem

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Speaker 2: he's trying to solve is American productions not shooting in America.

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Speaker 2: So the way to fix that is their own incentives,

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Speaker 2: not you know, trying to stop them go somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: And you know, is that what he means, because if

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Speaker 2: that is what he means, that's one thing. But the

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Speaker 2: way he actually said it was as if he meant,

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Speaker 2: you know, productions from another country, as in, you know,

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Speaker 2: something that we made here in New Zealand for example,

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Speaker 2: you know the film ten R. So does he mean

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Speaker 2: that or does he mean Minecraft being shot here an

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Speaker 2: American production being shot in news? I think he means that,

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Speaker 2: but it's really unlear what he means. And you know

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Speaker 2: how it would even manifest As.

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Speaker 1: You just mentioned before, he first made mention of this

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Speaker 1: in May. Have we seen anything since May to indicate

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Speaker 1: how the American industry will respond to this.

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Speaker 2: The American industry has been really negative about it, and

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Speaker 2: you know, really campaigning for it not to happen because

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Speaker 2: it doesn't help them because they you know, they want

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Speaker 2: to shoot wherever it is best for their production to shoot,

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Speaker 2: or their co production. And you know that's the other thing.

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Speaker 2: How do you define an American production. We're in the

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Speaker 2: age of the global co production, so I mean they'll

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Speaker 2: be as shocked as we are that it's you know

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Speaker 2: that he's mentioned it again. So yeah, I'm really not

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Speaker 2: quite sure. And it's very difficult here because it's a

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Speaker 2: tough time for the screen industry generally, you know, both

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Speaker 2: globally and here in New Zealand, both our international sector

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Speaker 2: and our local and of course, you know, this just

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Speaker 2: makes people panic and feel uncertain because you know, if

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Speaker 2: you could take this to its worst conclusion, it would

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Speaker 2: be you know, really devastating for our screen industry here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I suppose that's a fair point and it would

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Speaker 1: be Irene, thank you very much, appreciate it. Irene Gardner,

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Speaker 1: President of the Screen Producers New Zealand. Keep an eye

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