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Speaker 1: The Breakfast show you Can Trust Heather Dupacy out and

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Speaker 2: The la designed to intrigue and use talks.

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Speaker 2: That's normal.

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Speaker 4: Good morning and welcome at seven pass six. Coming up today,

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Speaker 4: the government's taking another look at a giant one point

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Speaker 4: three billion dollar fund that we've got for domestic and

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Speaker 4: sexual violence. We're going to speak to the ministry about

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Speaker 4: what's going on there. The Trade Minister is squeezing absolutely

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Speaker 4: everything out of the last few business days of the year.

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Speaker 4: He's off to India again to try and smooth for

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Speaker 4: that FTA. We're going to get you across all the

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Speaker 4: freebies that the district court judges get from us, the

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Speaker 4: taxpayers and the commentary boxes with us.

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Speaker 2: After eight Heather Duplicy ol, I want to come.

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Speaker 4: To the defense of a group of people who I

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Speaker 4: think are coppying it really unfairly when all they're trying

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Speaker 4: to do is help our capital city out. Now you'll

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Speaker 4: note you don't need me to tell you this. Wellington's

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Speaker 4: of shambles. It's in trouble and a lot of that

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Speaker 4: is caused by its own dysfunctional and innext city Council

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Speaker 4: making really really bad decisions. And there are a whole

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Speaker 4: group of people out there, and I include myself in this,

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Speaker 4: who find it sad to watch this because Wellington was

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Speaker 4: and can be again a really great place. It just

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Speaker 4: isn't at the minute. Some of the people who are

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Speaker 4: sad it does, they actually want to do something about it.

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Speaker 4: And this includes former mayor's fran Wild, Kerry pren Degas,

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Speaker 4: the restaurant owner Mike Egan, our very own fran O'Sullivan,

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Speaker 4: and the list goes on right. They've probably got better

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Speaker 4: things to do with their lives, but they've decided they're

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Speaker 4: going to give up their time. They're going to set

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Speaker 4: up this set up this group called Vision for Wellington,

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Speaker 4: and they're going to lobby for Wellington. They're gonna try

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Speaker 4: to come up with ideas to try and improve the city. Now,

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Speaker 4: what do you think they've got for their efforts. What

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Speaker 4: they've got is a series of attacks from people who

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Speaker 4: are actually on the City Council trying to paint them

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Speaker 4: as right wing conspiracy theorists. Now, on the conspiracy theory part,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if any of them are conspiracy theorists

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Speaker 4: or not, but I do know that to portray them

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Speaker 4: as a bunch of right wingers trying to take down

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Speaker 4: the country's left wing post to child Council is deeply

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Speaker 4: unfair on a lot of them. I mean, take, for example,

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Speaker 4: fran wild Right hardly a wild right winger. A woman

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Speaker 4: she was so progressive even by Labour Party standards of

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Speaker 4: in the nineteen eighties. Dame Patsy Really, I don't know

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Speaker 4: her personally, but if she strikes me as the kind

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Speaker 4: of person a lot of people would label the wokester.

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Speaker 4: She backed a proposal to overhaul the Nstar board and

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Speaker 4: put racial and gender quotas on it. So hard did

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Speaker 4: she back this that she threatened to resign if it

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Speaker 4: didn't happen. Now, somebody backing race and gender quotas does

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Speaker 4: not strike me as a wild right winger, does it you? Frankly,

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Speaker 4: the fact that these are the kinds of attacks that

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Speaker 4: that critics have actually got nothing better to criticize. These

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Speaker 4: have luminaries like these who care enough to give up

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Speaker 4: their time to try to help the city out. And

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Speaker 4: I would say, rather than attacking them, Wellington City Council

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Speaker 4: should be grateful for the help from people who are

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Speaker 4: frankly more capable.

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Speaker 2: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 4: Boat crossings are up in the UK currently, but label

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Speaker 4: will not be drawn on targets or deadline.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that people want a date snatched out

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Speaker 5: of the air, that nobody is confident that they can meet.

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Speaker 5: What they want is to see steady, regular progress.

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Speaker 4: Now the Tories know what's to blame here. It's the

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Speaker 4: scrapping of the Rwanda plan.

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Speaker 6: The reason those illegal and dangerous small boat crossings content

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Speaker 4: Prince Andrew A. Moore trouble had to release a statement

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Speaker 4: after he was told about a business told about a

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Speaker 4: businessman that he had a friendly relationship with being a

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Speaker 7: We urged the relevant parties in the UK to immediately

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Speaker 7: stop creating trouble, stop spreading the China threat narrative, and

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Speaker 7: stop underlining normal exchanges between China and the UK.

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Speaker 4: Syrian soldiers at the moment are standing by after they

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Speaker 4: surrounded a Russian held military base.

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Speaker 8: Oh, the location of this airport is very important, and

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Speaker 8: we've received orders to be here as soldiers want to

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Speaker 8: have any contact with them, but there might be a

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Speaker 4: Now, the wife of the Houston Jan six rioters convinced

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Speaker 4: Trump is going to pardon her husband.

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Speaker 9: He never took down a barricade ever with a rifle

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Speaker 9: in his car and a protective vesse on. You know,

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Speaker 9: you can say, you know, you being from Britain and everything,

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Speaker 9: you'll have a very finicky way with guns, you know

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Speaker 9: when East Texas were carrying them in the back of

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Speaker 4: Now, speaking of Jan six, Republicans are still exercised about

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Speaker 4: the Inspector General's report that FBI sources but no agents

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Speaker 1: A lot of people, including the Huffington Post, including lez Chenny,

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Speaker 1: called those of us who were asking the questions nutcases,

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Speaker 1: that we were crazy for.

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Speaker 2: Even asking them.

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Speaker 10: Well, now it appears we weren't so crazy after all.

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Speaker 4: And finally Trump has got himself quite the scalp at

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Speaker 4: ABC star anchor George Stephanopolis has had to pay fifteen

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Speaker 4: million dollars US to Trump for defamation after he repeatedly

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Speaker 4: said an March interview that Trump was liable for rape.

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Speaker 7: He was a course, He's.

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Speaker 4: Not found guilty of rape. He's found guilty of sexual abuse,

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Speaker 4: which has a distinctly specific definition under New York law.

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Speaker 4: ABC is going to pay the fine plus a million

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Speaker 4: the Charitable Presidential Foundation. So that'll be a win for Trump.

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Speaker 4: He'll talk that one up. And that is news of

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Speaker 4: the world in ninety seconds. Now, just in the last

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Speaker 4: few hours over in Europe, Israel has announced it's going

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Speaker 4: to close its embassy in Ireland, which is actually really big,

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Speaker 4: a big move from Israel on this front. The reason

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Speaker 4: that petition accused Israel of genocide. Now Israel says this

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: What's interesting here is that there are a bunch of

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Speaker 4: Israel's not doing the same to them. Their embassy stay open.

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Speaker 4: Probably though it is what I was suggesting before, which

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Speaker 4: is just the latest thing from Ireland. It's a long

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Speaker 4: list of things that they've had a tense relationship for ages.

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Speaker 4: Ireland is one of Europe's most pro Palestinian states, and

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Speaker 4: as a result, Israel's just said that's it finished. Thirteen

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Speaker 4: EB Hey on the drone thing that we've been talking

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Speaker 4: about a fair bit in the last week, our drones

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Speaker 4: and New Jersey flying. Nobody knows what's going on. By

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Speaker 4: past little Greg Smith Everie Funds Management with us. Morning Greg,

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Heather, Hey, how's that immigration out of the country.

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Speaker 11: Looking, yeah, those migration towns are certainly failing. So that's

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Speaker 11: use on report on Friday that in net migration gained

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Speaker 11: levels a year ago. But departures are also surging, sob

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Speaker 11: of course what happened during COVID so and the fifty

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Speaker 11: but seventy eight thousand leaft, which is a record. Now

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Speaker 11: we've always been quite flighty, I suppose you'd say, but

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Speaker 11: we're increasingly seeking greener pastures. You have to look at

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Speaker 11: the drivers. It's a function the economy. People going to

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Speaker 11: earn more elsewhere and employment is rising, it's falling. As

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Speaker 11: But yeah, the no getting away from a slowing population

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Speaker 11: There's no quick fix, but yeah, it does show the imperatives.

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Speaker 11: We're trying to get the economy going gain and providing

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Speaker 4: Yeah too, right, would agree with you on that. Listen,

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Speaker 4: We've got another company making it into the one trillion

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we certainly have. This is in the US.

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Speaker 11: This is broad cons so they become the eighth company

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Speaker 11: recent years. That's they've become more of an infrastructure business

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Speaker 3: Hype and demand around AI.

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Speaker 11: So their infrastructure software division that saw revenues of five

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Speaker 11: Look at the AI revenues they serged one hundred and

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Speaker 11: fifty percent. They're doing very well there. And they shipped

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Speaker 11: I believe to be Meta Alphabet and TikTok Parent Byte Dance. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: they saw and the effect doubled in terms of year

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Speaker 11: and revenue the current quarter a rising forty one percent,

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Speaker 11: AI revenues jumping sixty five percent. Investors really like that.

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Speaker 11: They do compete with AI daling and video to an extent,

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Speaker 11: but their point of differentiation in terms of broadcom is

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Speaker 11: there more expensive.

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Speaker 3: AI chips can enable ALI.

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Speaker 11: Infrastructure to work twenty to thirty percent faster and use

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Speaker 11: twenty five percent in this power, So that position certainly

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Speaker 4: This year, Greg, what do you reckon the Bank of

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Speaker 11: Well, you had a bit of a bit of a

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Speaker 4: All right, so a film about a former US president

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Speaker 8: I am about to.

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Speaker 12: Start the biggest war of this century, and I'm not

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Speaker 4: Now the guy playing Ronald Reagan is Dennis Quaid. And

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Speaker 1: It b me used fold opinions, Heather, due to see

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Speaker 4: Heather, I didn't realize you were talking about Reagan. I

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Speaker 4: It's a sign of the times, isn't it. Have you

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Speaker 4: And just to take us twenty three away from seven King, Food,

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Speaker 4: supply costs to supermarkets have gone up again, this time

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Speaker 4: by two point one percent of the month of November,

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Speaker 4: according to Infometrics. This is according to Informetrics and food

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Speaker 2: Now morning, Brad, good morning.

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Speaker 4: Do you worry about that when you look at this

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Speaker 6: I don't think it's quite like Europe, Scotton, And I mean,

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Speaker 6: I think we're still quite scarred from that. There has

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Speaker 4: So specifically to groceries, what's putting this up.

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Speaker 6: There's a few things that we've seen, particularly in the

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Speaker 4: Listen, Brad, just on the oc I've been having some

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Speaker 3: Huge huge shift.

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Speaker 6: So I feel like we're trying to navigate a very

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Speaker 6: We're just going through the sort of the time delay.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good stuff. Hey, listen, thanks for running us through that.

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Speaker 4: Brad Olson, Infometric's chief executive. Andrew. Now, lord, do we

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Speaker 4: need to talk about Prince Andrew?

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Speaker 4: suppose certainty that he is a Chinese spy anyway, Regardless,

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Speaker 4: as a result of that, Andrew might miss out on

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Speaker 4: the annual walk to Church and Sandringham this year. Now

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Speaker 4: for most of us, obviously, being banned from going with

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Speaker 4: your family to church would probably misbehave in order to

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Speaker 4: get that, But that for him is a really bad

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Speaker 4: thing because he needs to be seen with the Royals

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Speaker 4: to kind of justify his ongoing existence. But anyway, the

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Speaker 4: thing is, why are we even still fluffing around with Andrew?

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Speaker 4: Why doesn't Charles just kick him out of Royal Lodge,

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Speaker 4: ban him from anything to do with the family, and

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Speaker 4: just make him persona non grated because clearly he cannot

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Speaker 4: learn from his mistakes and he will continue to be

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Speaker 4: a massive liability.

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Speaker 16: I ah ban him. I thought I was worried there

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Speaker 16: for a moment. You wanted a big guy with an

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Speaker 16: ax to come along in a black hood. Yeah, the

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Speaker 16: chopping block.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know back in the old days, those aren't

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Speaker 4: available options for us anymore. We just have to kick

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Speaker 4: him out of the church. Walk right, We'll go over

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Speaker 4: to the US talk about the drones next seventeen away

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Speaker 4: from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, coward

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Speaker 1: By News Talks it be Hey.

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Speaker 4: Can I just give a few props to Todd McLay

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Speaker 4: who's our trade minister. He is about to make fourth

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Speaker 4: and then what I say he's about to he's actually

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Speaker 4: on his way to India if he hasn't already landed

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Speaker 4: fourth visit this year to try to get that FTA going.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna have a chat to the Indian New Zealand

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Speaker 4: Business Council chair after seven about it and just see

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Speaker 4: how things looking. Hopeful. Actually, it's looking at least hopeful

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Speaker 4: to start, so to chat about that after seven quarter.

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Speaker 1: Two international correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, peace of

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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: Business out of the US. Richard Arnold, Morning, Richard Red Morning, Heaven.

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Speaker 4: All right, what's the latest with the drones? Yeah, we're

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Speaker 4: at this.

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Speaker 17: Again, right, We're a story of the moment. The flurry

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Speaker 17: of drones sighting is over the northeast here, and the

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Speaker 17: seeming inability of the government to throw any on what's

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Speaker 17: going on. The head of Homeland Security Handro Mayorcus is

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Speaker 17: out today saying the government is looking into it. Beyond that,

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Speaker 17: though he's saying, well very little.

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Speaker 18: If there is any reason for concern, If we identify

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Speaker 18: any foreign involvement or criminal activity, we will communicate with

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Speaker 18: the American public accordingly. Right now, we are not aware

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Speaker 18: of any.

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Speaker 17: That is not satisfying people. New York's Governor Cathy Hockel

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Speaker 17: says in a statement, this has gone on too far.

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Speaker 17: It's become such a concern now that Stewart Airport in

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Speaker 17: upstate New York was shut down for a brief period

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Speaker 17: this week in amid safety concerns. These drones seem to

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Speaker 17: be flying around in significant numbers.

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Speaker 2: Is one witness.

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Speaker 4: They keep coming and I've seen I don't even know

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Speaker 4: how many.

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Speaker 17: I've seen today, drones everywhere one Democratic Senator Andy Kim

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Speaker 17: went out to do a drone survey, so he's serious

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Speaker 17: about it.

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Speaker 8: We're counting oftentimes five sixths seven or more at any

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Speaker 8: given time.

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Speaker 17: Well, he later admitted that much of what he was

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Speaker 17: seeing actually was regular aircraft, So it's getting a little

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Speaker 17: bit crazy. National Security AID John Kirby saying.

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Speaker 10: We have no evidence at this time that the reported

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Speaker 10: drone sightings pose a national security or a public safety threat,

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Speaker 10: or have a foreign nexus. It appears that many of

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Speaker 10: the reported sightings are actually manned aircraft that are being

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Speaker 10: operated lawfully.

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Speaker 17: Is it a bird that is the plane? Well, however,

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Speaker 17: some local officials again are not convinced by the government

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Speaker 17: assurances to.

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Speaker 2: Either lying or their incmpetent or they're bulk.

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Speaker 17: And Senator Richard Bluminhal also is getting into the act

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Speaker 17: on this. He's what he says, the lack of information

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Speaker 17: is absolutely unacceptable. Well, New York's governor now says that,

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Speaker 17: in response to her calls for further investigation, State of

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Speaker 17: the art drone detection systems are being deployed in her state.

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Speaker 17: You know, about a million drones are registered in the US.

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Speaker 17: Amazon of course, has been testing ways to send stuff

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Speaker 17: to people that they buy on line, so it lands

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Speaker 17: in their front yards via drone. Can you imagine if

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Speaker 17: the skies suddenly were just filled with drones carrying pizza.

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Speaker 4: Richard, listen, I see there's been a huge tornado in

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Speaker 4: northern California. Now that's unusual for that part of.

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Speaker 17: The world, isn't It doesn't happen. You know, we hear

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Speaker 17: all the time how the weather is changing, and yeah,

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Speaker 17: this is different. San Francisco issued its first ever tornado warning.

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Speaker 17: This is part of the country where this is not

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Speaker 17: supposed to be. A twister has hit south of the

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Speaker 17: Bay City, near Santa Cruz is where this happened.

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Speaker 4: There it blows Stofflates rip.

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Speaker 14: We saw that white horror over there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, to the air about fifteen.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, cars were flying, A couple of dozen were overturned.

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Speaker 17: This was an F one, so afar from the biggest tornadoes,

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Speaker 17: but enough to cause some injuries, is what they're reporting.

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Speaker 2: Now you have a couple of serious injuries. One person

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Speaker 2: was transported to the hospital and critical injuries.

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Speaker 17: You know, people in San Francisco used to earthquakes, but

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Speaker 17: this has caused some uproar. Meantime, southern California is experiencing

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Speaker 17: warmer than usual temps, while heavy snowstorms are battering much

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Speaker 17: of the US, including Lake Tahoe in the West and big,

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Speaker 17: big storms in the Midwest and northeast.

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Speaker 4: Right now, good stuff, Hey, Richard, thanks for running us through. Appreciated.

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Speaker 4: That's Richard Arnold, our US correspondent. Listen, interesting idea from

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Speaker 4: an Auckland MP today, and this is where the event promoters,

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Speaker 4: if they're running an event and turning a buck on it,

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Speaker 4: whether they should pay the police for the security that

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Speaker 4: the Police Act providers. This has come from Greg Fleming,

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Speaker 4: who's the local MP at National MP for Mango Care

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Speaker 4: Care now manguke here is the electric that covers Mount Smart.

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Speaker 4: He reckons that in his electorate the cops are spending

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Speaker 4: fifty percent of their time just doing events and not

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Speaker 4: on the beat. And I'm generally cool with the idea.

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Speaker 4: If you're running a big event, you're making a lot

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Speaker 4: of money, you've got to have the police there. Then

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Speaker 4: you know, throw the coppers are fitty, do you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean? Give them a little bit of money

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Speaker 4: for the work then obviously not just a random police officer.

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Speaker 4: Don't give them a bribe, but give the police force

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Speaker 4: some money to cover the expenses. The problem with it

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Speaker 4: is going to be when people say, actually, nah, I

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Speaker 4: don't know, I'm not going to pay you don't send

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Speaker 4: any coppers, and then you start putting people's lives at risk,

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Speaker 4: or just maybe not their lives, but their belongings or whatever.

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Speaker 4: You increase the risk. So then if one person says no,

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Speaker 4: one doesn't have the police, then others may start to

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Speaker 4: follow and the whole thing falls apart. Going to talk

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Speaker 4: to Greg about that when he's with us round about

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Speaker 4: twenty five minutes or thereabouts, ten away from seven.

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Speaker 2: Heather dupery Ellen on them my costing breakfast with the Range.

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Speaker 2: It's over the lawn news top right to go.

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Speaker 4: Here we go the perks the district court judges get

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Speaker 4: while they're in the job. Now, this came out at

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Speaker 4: the weekend, and the fact that it came out is

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Speaker 4: kind of a little Well, came out just before Christmas,

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Speaker 4: didn't it? Because they don't want us to focus on

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Speaker 4: it too much? Is the old trick, isn't it. Media

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Speaker 4: have been fighting eighteen months to get their hands on

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Speaker 4: this book of perks. It's called the Red Book. The

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Speaker 4: judiciary obviously didn't want to reveal it.

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Speaker 14: Now I've looked at it.

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Speaker 4: I thought, this isn't Why were you being so weird

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Speaker 4: about it? It's not that bad. So the context is

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Speaker 4: we've got one hundred and seventy district court judges, we've

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Speaker 4: got ten Environment Court judges. And look, these guys are

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Speaker 4: on a pretty good wicket on about three hundred and

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Speaker 4: seventy k and they've got a really good pension system.

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Speaker 4: But as I say, the perks of the job seem

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Speaker 4: pretty par for the course for me. Right, if they

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Speaker 4: have to move town for the job, which generally most

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Speaker 4: of them will have to, they get a bunch of

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Speaker 4: help to move town. So they get new carpets and

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Speaker 4: new curtains. If they're renting I suppose, or moving, get

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Speaker 4: a rental subsidy while they look for a house, get

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Speaker 4: refunded legal bills related to moving house, like the cost

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Speaker 4: of the valuation of their house, agent fees for selling

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Speaker 4: their house. Realist that agent fees reimbursed for buying the

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Speaker 4: new house, furniture moving, furniture storage. They get the installation

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Speaker 4: of a telephone paid for, Hello nineteen eighty four cool.

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Speaker 4: Get school uniforms for the kids paid for. They get

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Speaker 4: travel expenses and meals and accommodation included for up to

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Speaker 4: three months if they haven't been able to find a house.

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Speaker 4: They also get one thousand dollars advance if they're short

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Speaker 4: on cash, which I really doubt that they are on

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Speaker 4: that kind of a money, but anyway, they have to

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Speaker 4: pay that back if they do take that. They get

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Speaker 4: their gowns for free, you know, their dress up garb,

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Speaker 4: which I think is fair enough. That's like if you

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Speaker 4: work on the side of the road, you get yourself

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Speaker 4: a hiver's vest for free. Shouldn't have to pay for that.

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Speaker 4: Get a cell phone, get some money towards the cost

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Speaker 4: of installing Wi Fi at the house. Get a per DM,

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Speaker 4: blah blah blah. Probably one of the more controversial things

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Speaker 4: I would imagine is that when they have to go

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Speaker 4: away for work, so let's say they're based now in Timaru,

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Speaker 4: I don't know, and they have to go to Southland

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Speaker 4: for whatever reason, they get a per DIM for going there.

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Speaker 4: And get a daily expense. And if they are away

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Speaker 4: for more than two days, and you know you can't

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Speaker 4: be away from am missus for more than two days,

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Speaker 4: then the missus gets flown out and she also gets

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Speaker 4: a per DM. They get business travel if they are

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Speaker 4: more than four hours membership of the carew club seven

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Speaker 4: weeks and you'll leave. I don't think it's that controversial.

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Speaker 4: I think the dumbest stuff are things like three hundred

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Speaker 4: dollars for glasses or contact lenses and an annual medical

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Speaker 4: which they could probably pay for.

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Speaker 16: But the reason justice was supposed to be blind, the

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Speaker 16: reason licensed to tell Dan jokes.

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Speaker 3: I've got two licenses.

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Speaker 4: You are you are more than welcome to because why not.

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Speaker 4: It's the end of the year. You've got to remember

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Speaker 4: these guys were working for outfits like Bell Gully and stuff, right,

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Speaker 4: so that you got to entice them over with a

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Speaker 4: decent package. Anyway, we'll talk to retired District Court judge

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Speaker 4: after half past seven. You welcome to away in nine, two,

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Speaker 4: nine and two on that right now, it's four away

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Speaker 4: from seven.

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Speaker 2: And the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the biz with business fiber, take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next levels.

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Speaker 4: Wow, we're using a lot of Internet more than ever before.

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Speaker 4: Chorus looked at it found that the busiest day on

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Speaker 4: the ultrapast broadband was November. The second three big things

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Speaker 4: happened that day the Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson boxing fight,

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Speaker 4: so we lapped that up. But also maybe it was

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Speaker 4: poorly formatted on Netflix, so it just sucked up a

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Speaker 4: lot of extra internet unnecessarily Day three of the Indian

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Speaker 4: New Zealand Test and Mumbai as well that was streamed

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Speaker 4: on Sky's apps, so a lot of internet there. And

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Speaker 4: then gaming was the third and probably most important part

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Speaker 4: because there was a major Fortnight update that way, too

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Speaker 4: many of us downloaded. It was the most data heavy

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Speaker 4: event of the day. In fact, Fortnite fourteen of the

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Speaker 4: seventeen biggest Internet spikes of the year because people were

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Speaker 4: either updating Fortnite or playing Fortnite. Also, the All Blacks

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Speaker 4: Japan game on October twenty six and the Blues Brumby

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Speaker 4: semi final on June fourteenth were big. Get this Whykatl

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Speaker 4: district uses the most data per month. The average household

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Speaker 4: uses nine hundred gigabytes per month, which is forty seven

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Speaker 4: percent above the national average. Forty seven percent. What are

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Speaker 4: you doing?

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Speaker 16: Well, it's Hamilton, the City of the Future, the tron Oh.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that makes sense. They're updating us for the future,

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Speaker 4: all right, Karen sure Next on what she's going to

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Speaker 4: do to get rid of domestic and sexual violence in

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Speaker 4: the country. News Talks EB.

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Speaker 1: Demanding the answers from the decision makers can then duplessy

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Speaker 1: Ellen on the my Asking Breakfast with al Vida, Retirement Communities,

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Speaker 4: Good morning to you at seven past seven. Now on

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Speaker 4: domestic and sexual violence, the government's taking another look at

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Speaker 4: a massive fund one point three billion dollars that set

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Speaker 4: aside to deal with this. They have a plan to

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Speaker 4: prioritize fewer things and do them well instead. Are the

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Speaker 4: Minister for Prevention of Family and Sexual Violence crentsur Is

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Speaker 4: with us now morning.

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Speaker 14: Karen Monty, How are you going.

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Speaker 4: I'm very well, thank you. What are the things you

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Speaker 4: think you need to prioritize?

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Speaker 14: So, yeah, this was off the back of the first

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Speaker 14: Action Plan, of course, which we learned trying to deteromin

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Speaker 14: many things all at once and doing nothing well was

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Speaker 14: not not working out for us. So we decided that

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Speaker 14: we needed to be more focused, more streamlined, and working

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Speaker 14: on making sure that we're investing and commissioning well when

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Speaker 14: we're looking at these services across the sector, across agencies.

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Speaker 14: We spend one point three billion dollars in this area,

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Speaker 14: and we need to make sure that every dollar is

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Speaker 14: actually making a difference in these people's lives, working towards

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Speaker 14: breaking that cycle of harm. We talk about generational harm

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Speaker 14: here and we need to step in and make sure

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Speaker 14: that it doesn't continue in our next generation has a

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Speaker 14: better chance at life.

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Speaker 4: Is it possible that you might cut some spending out

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Speaker 4: of this fund.

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Speaker 14: It's not looking about cutting the spending, it's looking about

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Speaker 14: making sure that that spending is making a true change

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Speaker 14: and making sure that we're actually measuring the outcomes of

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Speaker 14: that change. So that was an important part of this plan.

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Speaker 14: How do we measure what good looks like so that

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Speaker 14: in a few years time, when we're looking back, we

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Speaker 14: actually know that we've made a change.

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Speaker 4: Are we seeing any improvement because this fund has been

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Speaker 4: around for a little while now we see any improvement

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Speaker 4: from it, yet, probably.

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Speaker 14: Not as much as we would have liked. But that's

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Speaker 14: because I think agencies haven't worked together as well as intentions,

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Speaker 14: but now every agency, every minister is on board. We've

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Speaker 14: aligned this plan with other agencies approaches as well, so

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Speaker 14: we're all on the same page, and we've aligned it

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Speaker 14: with our government priorities around reducing child youth offending and

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Speaker 14: reducing violent crime. But also the other important part of

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Speaker 14: this plan is it's about having a proper discussion. It

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Speaker 14: actually includes sexual violence in this plan because that's a

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Speaker 14: scourge on our society that we don't talk about often enough,

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Speaker 14: that causes real harm and long term issues for people

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Speaker 14: in this country.

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Speaker 4: Karen, Are those boot camp kids still behaving themselves?

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Speaker 14: Oh yep. And I'm actually really proud of what the

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Speaker 14: young people who are out in the community trying to

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Speaker 14: change their lives around are actually doing. They're working really

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Speaker 14: hard with their family to turn that corner and I

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Speaker 14: wish them well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks very much, Karen, really appreciate that. Karen, you're

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Speaker 4: the Minister for Prevention of Family and Sexual Violence. It's

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Speaker 4: ten past seven. There are only a few business days

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Speaker 4: of the year left in our trade ministers not wasting

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Speaker 4: any of them. He's winging his way to India again

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Speaker 4: to work on that free trade deal. This is his

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Speaker 4: fourth visit just this year. The chair of the Indian

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Speaker 4: New Zealand Business councilor is but Chlahi. Do you think

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Speaker 4: the Indian government's going to be impressed with his persistence?

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Speaker 19: I think that's good.

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Speaker 20: It's a good momentum which even government is showing and

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Speaker 20: the Trade minister is going again and again. That is

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Speaker 20: needed and that is something positive direction what we're going in.

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Speaker 4: Ten days ago, Winston Peters said that we might be

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Speaker 4: able to announce the start of negotiations which does show

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Speaker 4: some progress. Is this what you're hearing?

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Speaker 20: Yes? And that is of hearing from the Indian side also.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So what happens when do we announce the negotiations.

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Speaker 20: I think to be honesty negotiations or the industry efforts

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Speaker 20: are going on though ideas are now kind of more

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Speaker 20: working towards a good relationship or approach where we can

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Speaker 20: announce some kind of positive movement towards a kind of

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Speaker 20: compresive agreement or a trade agreement what minister's saying. So

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Speaker 20: I think something around when we talk about first quarter

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Speaker 20: to second corner, we will get some kind of movement

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Speaker 20: or attention from both the governments.

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Speaker 4: Okay, and then in this in any kind of FTA

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Speaker 4: that we start going into. Do we just need to

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Speaker 4: give up on dary? Is that just a pipe dream

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Speaker 4: from us?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 20: I think there is the integral part of the new system.

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Speaker 20: And again India, it doesn't say that we don't want there.

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Speaker 20: They just want to make sure that we are into

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Speaker 20: a process where what all can we give? And there

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Speaker 20: is one part of the direction. Again, there can be

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Speaker 20: multiple structures in place. How there it can be useful

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Speaker 20: and positive in the direction.

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Speaker 4: Brilliant stuff. Hey, thank you very much about it. I

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Speaker 4: really appreciate about it. Taller, Indian New Zealand Business Council chair.

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Speaker 2: Heall do for see Alan, was anybody convinced.

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Speaker 4: By Karen Schuwa's are yep? That was the kind of answer,

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Speaker 4: you know when you say to your husband, did you

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Speaker 4: take that letter round to my mum's house and drop

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Speaker 4: it off the one that she was expecting? Are yep?

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Speaker 4: And then he just sticks it away somewhere where. No,

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Speaker 4: you'll never find out that he didn't. That was that

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Speaker 4: it was like, Yep, kids are behaving themselves, Yep, no

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Speaker 4: problem at all, Yep. Making a phone call immediately Listen,

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Speaker 4: this is a big week to find out just how

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Speaker 4: things are going in the economy. I mean, we've all

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Speaker 4: got vibes about how it is at the moment, we've

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Speaker 4: all got feelings, but to get a real sense the

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Speaker 4: Tomorrow we're going to find out how stuff the government's

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Speaker 4: books are. And it's not a question of are they stuffed,

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Speaker 4: It's absolutely yes, they are stuff house stuffed. Because we've

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Speaker 4: HAIFU tomorrow, probably expect the surplus to be pushed back

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Speaker 4: by another year again. Wednesday, we've got the balance of payments.

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Speaker 4: It's going to show a deficit. That's no surprise. It's

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Speaker 4: always in a deficit. It's just a question of how

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Speaker 4: in recession again. So we'll look forward to all of

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Speaker 4: those things and then we'll try to cheer ourselves up

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Speaker 4: before Christmas. Say, thirteen past seven, the.

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Speaker 1: Mike asking breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 4: Sixteen past seven. So here's a question for you. Okay,

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Speaker 4: should event promoters pay police to turn up at whatever

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Speaker 4: it is, whatever the event is that these guys have organized.

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Speaker 4: The question has been raised by an Auckland MP who

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Speaker 4: reckons the constables and his electorates his electorate are sometimes

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Speaker 4: spending fifty percent of their time not patrolling the beat

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Speaker 4: but patrolling the sidelines instead. Now that MP is Greg

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Speaker 4: Fleming from Manga Kek who's with us.

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Speaker 2: Now, Hey, Greg, good morning here.

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Speaker 4: So are you talking about events at Mount Smarter or

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Speaker 4: is it more than just that?

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Speaker 21: It's more than that. Yeah, so obviously that's the venue.

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Speaker 13: That's local to us.

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Speaker 21: But yeah, it's right across the right, across the area

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Speaker 21: and it seems to be disproportionately affecting the front of

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Speaker 21: the community officers. So we've got a couple of ones

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Speaker 21: who are focused in our community of any hunger. And

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Speaker 21: they were the ones that raised us with me when

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Speaker 21: I asked them one night, had long with an MP

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Speaker 21: where they had been patrolling that night, and they said,

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Speaker 21: they've been here, as you said, patrolling the warriors. And

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Speaker 21: so the more we've locked into it, the more I've

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Speaker 21: realized that it's not Yeah, it's not nice tolated an

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Speaker 21: incident at all, but we need to need a little

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Speaker 21: law change in order to in order to change that.

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Speaker 4: And so how much would you expect people to pay?

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Speaker 21: Well, the math that we've run on the back of

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Speaker 21: the envelope at this stage because they've been focused more

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Speaker 21: on tim the legislative change, it could only be a

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Speaker 21: dollar per ticket because essentially what you're talking about is

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Speaker 21: that the change would be constrained through really large events.

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Speaker 21: So a you're talking for the forty fifth thousand people

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Speaker 21: at a music or a sports content venue, and then

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Speaker 21: the cost of that on an hourly basis based on overtime.

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Speaker 21: And this is the key thing. So what the law

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Speaker 21: change would do is it would allow police to be

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Speaker 21: able to charge an event organizer for delivering police and

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Speaker 21: from that and they'd keep that revenue in a separate

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Speaker 21: poll which they could then use to pay off time

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Speaker 21: off duty officers. So we'd have would have the double whammy.

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Speaker 21: Number One, most importantly, we'd keep our local bobby sexually

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Speaker 21: on the front line. Secondly, it would allow off duty

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Speaker 21: officers to earn some overtime.

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Speaker 4: Is Mark, what you're okay with us?

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Speaker 21: Have you talked to him about Yeah, yeah, he's very

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Speaker 21: supportive of it. The key thing is going to be

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Speaker 21: to see where it is room on the on the

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Speaker 21: government's legislative agenda to get it through. So that's why

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Speaker 21: in the meantime I've put it into the Private member's

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Speaker 21: bill so that I can I can process the idea

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Speaker 21: and then we'll see how we can actually get What

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Speaker 21: would you.

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Speaker 4: Do, though, Greg, here's the problem with it, because I

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Speaker 4: think it sounds like it's a winning idea. But the

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Speaker 4: trouble is what if Mount Smart is like, Nah, not

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Speaker 4: going to pay, then what do you do as the police.

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Speaker 4: Do you go I get fine call, you get no

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Speaker 4: policing and therefore people are at more risk at the event.

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Speaker 4: Or do you just go oge fine, We'll do a

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Speaker 4: free bee for you because you're being a pain.

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Speaker 21: Well, this is why they just sort of change was needed.

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Speaker 21: When I first looked at it, I figured that there

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Speaker 21: was something in our law that police couldn't charge the services,

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Speaker 21: and then I found that in twenty sixteen we actually

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Speaker 21: did pass the piece of legislation and the Police Cost

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Speaker 21: Recovery Act which allowed them to do it, but they

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Speaker 21: just hadn't applied it to event so it was just

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Speaker 21: mainly around police bessing. And then however, then we dug

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Speaker 21: deeper and realized that actually the actually could be based

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Speaker 21: on the UK experience of exactly what you just described.

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Speaker 21: So an event organized would say, well, I didn't ask

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Speaker 21: your police to come, so you can't charge me for it,

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Speaker 21: and the courts recently upheld there. So what my law

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Speaker 21: change would do would make a special category making it

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Speaker 21: clear that just because there is also a public benefit

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Speaker 21: attached to it, it doesn't mean that you can't charge

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Speaker 21: private benefit. So police would say, yeah, if you have

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Speaker 21: a certain size, we need to have police there in

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Speaker 21: terms of public safety. That's also going to accrue a

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Speaker 21: public a pretty significant private benefit to you guys. That's

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Speaker 21: So we're going to ask you to contribute to that.

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Speaker 4: Good stuff. Greg, thanks very much, appreciate it. Great Flemming,

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Speaker 4: the national MP for Maong the kicka Hey, somebody text

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Speaker 4: through before it said we get a glasses allowance if

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Speaker 4: we work at the Ministry of Justice. This is not

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Speaker 4: even a judge, just a staffer glasses allowance and one

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Speaker 4: hundred dollars wellness allowance, And so I take them back said,

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Speaker 4: what's a wellness allowance? Well, that could be going to

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Speaker 4: it for that. Talk about this after half past seven,

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Speaker 4: Seven twenty three. Should we try that again? We'll try

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Speaker 4: that again. Ah that was by the way. I know

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Speaker 4: it's amateur hour here with me. Not nothing to do

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Speaker 4: with me, Nothing to do with me seven twenty four. Now,

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Speaker 4: now let's do the Politician of the year, right. It's

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Speaker 4: this time of the year where it's traditional for the

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Speaker 4: political commentators to pick the person that they think has

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Speaker 4: done the best out of politics. And interestingly I saw

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Speaker 4: the weekend this past weekend the Herald went for Simeon Brown.

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Speaker 4: Now I agree Simeon Brown's right up there. I mean,

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Speaker 4: there is a reason he's called golden balls, apparently by

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Speaker 4: his Caucus colleagues. But I don't think Simon is the one.

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Speaker 4: I think the honor has to go to Erica Stanford

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Speaker 4: this year. And as far as I'm concerned, it's not

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Speaker 4: even a competition. It's Erica all the way. No disrespect

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Speaker 4: to Simeon, because Simeon is fixing up a bunch of

932
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Speaker 4: stuff that really really desperately needs fixing up, like speed

933
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Speaker 4: limits and the potholes and Wellington City Council and the

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Speaker 4: speed bumps and Transpower not wanting to tell us that

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Speaker 4: they pulled the pilot, the nuts out of the pilot,

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Speaker 4: and et cetera, et cetera. And he's done it without

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Speaker 4: causing days of drama, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: He's pretty decisive, really makes mistakes, He's just he tied

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Speaker 4: his it up and you get the impression he's absolutely

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Speaker 4: not taking any bs from the public officials behind the scenes.

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Speaker 4: But this is pretty regular running a government type stuff, right.

942
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Speaker 4: Erica Stanford, though, has done something really special this year,

943
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Speaker 4: which is that she's banned the phones in school. Now,

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Speaker 4: I don't blame you if you think, well, that's not

945
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Speaker 4: even a thing. Sounds a bit silly, right, It's going

946
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Speaker 4: to sound silly to some people as a reason for

947
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Speaker 4: picking her as the Politician of the Year, But that

948
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Speaker 4: will only be if you do not understand how distracting

949
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Speaker 4: and addictive these phones are in school time, and how

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Speaker 4: much they were hurting kids' grades, how much they were

951
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Speaker 4: hurting kids' social skills, and how much they were hurting

952
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Speaker 4: kids ability to just be kids at school like we were.

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Speaker 4: Do you remember the thing is do you remember before

954
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Speaker 4: she did it, we ridiculed her for it, right, and

955
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Speaker 4: we said it's not going to work. Now, go and

956
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Speaker 4: find me a teacher who doesn't think it's a wild success.

957
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Speaker 4: This is so important what she's done that international experts

958
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Speaker 4: who study the impact of phones on kids say this

959
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Speaker 4: is about one of four things that have to be

960
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Speaker 4: done by countries to help kids out. And she's done it.

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Speaker 4: She didn't have to be bagged, don't have to be

962
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Speaker 4: cajoled and to do it, and she just did it.

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Speaker 4: Watch the impact this is going to have on a

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Speaker 4: generation of kids. As far as I'm concerned, no politician

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Speaker 4: has made a call this significant for a group of

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Speaker 4: people who are this important all year. Kids are the

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Speaker 4: most important, So never mind any of the other stuff

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Speaker 4: that she's done like the State Abuse inquiry and she's

969
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Speaker 4: done pretty well there. Phone ban alone makes her I

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Speaker 4: reckon the MVP of twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Ever do for Cee Ellen?

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Speaker 20: Okay?

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Speaker 2: You want to?

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Speaker 4: You want to you want to know what the judges

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Speaker 4: are up to have listened to this? Okay. There is

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Speaker 4: a chap called Carresa Alvi Anderson who just faced court

977
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Speaker 4: for his ninth drink driving offense. Carrisa had his sentencing.

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Speaker 4: He should go to jail for this by the third time,

979
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Speaker 4: you should be going to jail. This is his ninth,

980
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Speaker 4: so definitely going to the slammer. Any So, anyway, he

981
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 4: was before a judge and he was told, no, no,

982
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Speaker 4: don't worry about it. We're not going to sentence you

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Speaker 4: right now because otherwise, whoopsie, sad face, you're going to

984
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Speaker 4: spend Christmas in jail and we don't want that. So

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Speaker 4: we're going to postpone the sentencing to April. This is

986
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Speaker 4: going to give him some time for rehabilitation. What he

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Speaker 4: did was he in a bunch of his mates. They

988
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Speaker 4: were absolutely shickered on the fourth of March this year

989
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 4: try to get into a bus in Auckland Central. Told

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Speaker 4: they were too drunk to drive to get on the

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Speaker 4: who drank to even be on the bus, So they

992
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Speaker 4: tried to nick the bus. As a result of that,

993
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Speaker 4: all the people sitting on the bus. He got off,

994
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Speaker 4: He tried to drive the bus, couldn't drive the bus,

995
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Speaker 4: got off, left the bus without a handbrake. Bus that

996
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 4: a rolling back stopped itself. Thank god. Anyway, went before

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Speaker 4: the judge. Judge said no, there's a very good chance

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Speaker 4: you're spending Christmas in prison. Some people would say you

999
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 4: deserve that, even though postponing the sentencing is not without risk.

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00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 4: We're going to do that for you. More on that

1001
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 4: and just to just hang on us talks EB.

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Speaker 2: You're trusted source for news and FEUs.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy Allen on the mic, asking breakfast with the

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Speaker 1: range Rover, the la designed to intrigue and use talks that'd.

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Speaker 4: B Heather banning cell phones and schools versus bringing the

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Speaker 4: treaty bill into the public conversation. It's not even a debate.

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00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 4: David Seymour's my politician of the year by a country mile. Look,

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Speaker 4: I would agree with you. That's actually quite That's a

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Speaker 4: ballsy thing for him to do, and that takes a

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Speaker 4: lot of courage. However, David has made a few mistakes

1011
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 4: this year that kind of pull his overall score back

1012
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 4: a wee bit, including.

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Speaker 16: As far as I know, he doesn't play the bassoon either.

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00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 4: Does she play the bassoon? Come on here, does she

1015
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 4: play the bason?

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Speaker 16: That should be the reason that she's everybody's favorite politician

1017
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Speaker 16: above all. Oh man, we have got some homewek to

1018
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 16: do in the n Wow, what.

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00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 4: A weird thing to do with your life. Play the bassoon?

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00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 4: That would appeal to about five people in the country,

1021
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 4: including Glenn. Anyway, so David Symour doesn't play the basoon.

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00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 4: That also pulls back his overall score somewhat. So still,

1023
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 4: I still think Erica wins. Hither who is the judge?

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00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you who. That judge is My least

1025
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 4: favorite judge in the whole country. So we're gonna deal

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00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 4: with this very shortly twenty two away.

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Speaker 2: From mate, Yes nuts mosted.

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Speaker 4: The past eighteen months, journalists have been trying to get

1029
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 4: speaking of judges, trying to get holds their hands on

1030
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 4: what's called the red Book. Now, this is a list

1031
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 4: of perks that district court judges receive, and it's all

1032
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 4: courtesy the tax payer only agree to release it. On

1033
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 4: top of the three hundred and seventy thousand dollars salaries

1034
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 4: that the judges get. Has been revealed. We're paying relocation costs,

1035
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 4: new carpets, new curtains, real estate fees, school uniforms, CODO

1036
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Speaker 4: club partner allowances, a whole bunch of other stuff with

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Speaker 4: me now is retired District Court judge Rosemary Radale Hay Rosemary.

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Speaker 22: Good morning, Heather, how are you very well?

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Speaker 2: Thank you?

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Speaker 4: This list seems entirely reasonable to me for the job

1041
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 4: that these guys are doing. What about you?

1042
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 22: Absolutely there are costs that are available if you're relocating,

1043
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 22: and some judges are and some things you don't get.

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00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 22: Of course, that's just the whole gamut of what's available.

1045
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 22: But judges in many cases have to move from one

1046
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 22: end of the country to the other, so I don't

1047
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Speaker 22: see anything unusual in that.

1048
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Speaker 4: The only thing that I would probably quibble with is

1049
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 4: why it's necessary to fly your wife or girlfriend out,

1050
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 4: or husband for that matter, after only two days of

1051
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 4: being in another city.

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Speaker 22: We sometimes a judge goes to another court and they

1053
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 22: might be there for some time. If it's a jury trial.

1054
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Speaker 19: And it goes on and on.

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Speaker 22: So I think I think it's quite reasonable. If if

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Speaker 22: that's the case, wouldn't you extend.

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Speaker 4: It on two days? Then, Rosemary? I mean I think

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Speaker 4: I think at two days, we're probably happy for the

1059
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Speaker 4: break from our partner, aren't we.

1060
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Speaker 19: Well, you might be.

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Speaker 14: I wasn't after five day.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I just wonder if maybe after you know,

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Speaker 4: you extend it to be a bit more reasonable. But also, look,

1064
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Speaker 4: the thing is, what's going to happen is people are

1065
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 4: going to go through the list, they're going to compare

1066
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 4: it to what they get, and it's going to be

1067
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 4: a whole lot more generous. Right, So would the smarter

1068
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 4: thing from a PR perspective not be to scrap all

1069
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Speaker 4: of the stuff and just build it into the salary.

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Speaker 22: That sounds easy, except that there's arrangement that's been in

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Speaker 22: place for judges who've been judges for a long time,

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Speaker 22: and you don't scrap that to people who are existing judges.

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Speaker 22: And then there's judges who've been appointed I think it's

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Speaker 22: twenty nineteen, and their expenses arrangement are slightly different, so

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Speaker 22: you could give them a whopping salary.

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Speaker 13: What's the difference.

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Speaker 4: Well, the difference is that we don't go through a

1078
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 4: salary is just a salary. You don't go through the

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Speaker 4: list and feel envious.

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Speaker 22: Well, people might then be envious about the salary.

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Speaker 4: Undoubtedly they will, but they get it over and done

1082
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 4: with in one fell smooth, don't you think?

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Speaker 22: Oh oh see, yeah, well, if we got to make

1084
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 22: people feel better, is that.

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Speaker 14: What this is about?

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Speaker 4: Those? Basically, hey, what about the sabbatical?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 4: So after five years in the job, judges of the

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00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 4: old contracts get a sabbatical of twenty weeks, which is

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Speaker 4: five months, and nowadays they only get a sabbatical of

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Speaker 4: about oh I think it's three and a half months

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Speaker 4: or something like that. What do they do with their sabbaticals?

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Speaker 22: They can do whatever they like. Some judges choose to

1094
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 22: go to other countries, do a research project, go to

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Speaker 22: the university. Some choose to take time out. It's entirely

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Speaker 22: up to them. It's not a requirement to go and

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Speaker 22: learn some more about.

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Speaker 19: Being a judge.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Rosemary, thank you so much. I really appreciate your expertise.

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Speaker 4: It's Rosemary Ridell, retired District Court judge. So what happens

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Speaker 4: with the partner is if the judges. We don't know

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Speaker 4: how much the district court judges are getting, but if

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Speaker 4: it's anything like the higher court judges, like high courts

1104
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 4: judges get when they go away on work and they

1105
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Speaker 4: have to get sit in a different court or whatever

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Speaker 4: it is, they can claim two hundred and forty bucks

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Speaker 4: a day for their per diem, and then after a

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Speaker 4: couple of days they can fly the boyfriend out, and

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Speaker 4: then they can claim ninety six dollars per day for

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Speaker 4: the boyfriend. I think two days you can go without

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Speaker 4: your partner. I think when it starts getting into like

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Speaker 4: a week or two weeks, then I'm okay with flying

1113
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Speaker 4: them out. Anyway, Okay, listen, here we go on this

1114
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 4: business of old mate who tried to neck the bus

1115
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 4: and then got himself a little reprieve. The judge is

1116
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Speaker 4: clear Ryan Claire is the one who went, I don't

1117
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 4: want to put you in jail for Christmas. Na, I'll

1118
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 4: give you some time until April to go and your rehab,

1119
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 4: and then we'll put you in jail. So anyway, watch

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Speaker 4: out on the roads in in case old mate is

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Speaker 4: out drink driving again for his tenth time, which is

1122
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 4: entirely plaus We're given that he's done it nine times. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: Claire Ryan is my least favorite judge in the entire

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Speaker 4: country because Claire Ryan is the one who gave the

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Speaker 4: Albert Park rapist a bit of a reprieve. Do you

1126
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 4: remember that story?

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00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 3: Guy?

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Speaker 4: We won't go into the details, but happened in Albert

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00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 4: Parker was a couple walking down through Albert Park and

1130
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 4: this guy got involved with them, and anyway, the poor

1131
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 4: woman ended up being raped. She started Claire Ryan with

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00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 4: a sentencing period of eleven years and three months for

1133
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 4: this chat for everything, like at knife point. It was horrific, right,

1134
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 4: eleven months, three years by the end of it. She

1135
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 4: checks them in jail for two years, two months and

1136
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 4: one week and at the time she's like, oh, someone's

1137
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 4: gonna appeal it, aren't they. Yeah, they are going to

1138
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 4: appeal it. So I went to the High Court. High

1139
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 4: Court judge was like, no, this is not at all

1140
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 4: how it should be bumped up, old mates sentencing from

1141
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 4: two years, two months and one week to three years

1142
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 4: eleven months. You may as well round that up and

1143
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 4: say it's four years. Anyway. So Claire Ryan seems to

1144
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 4: me to be something of a soft touch I'm not

1145
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 4: a huge fan of this, so we did a little

1146
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 4: Google search just find out a little bit about Claire.

1147
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 4: Claire is also an amateur astronomer, theology teacher, and activist.

1148
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 4: And I just want to know more, don't you. I

1149
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 4: want to know more about this. So it feels like

1150
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 4: this may be an interesting little side story. Watch out

1151
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 4: on the Roads for old mate with the drink driving problem.

1152
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 4: Sixteen away from Ape The Vike.

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Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast, a full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

1154
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 1: News Talks.

1155
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 4: That'd be here the wy on Earth, didn't the judge

1156
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 4: order home detention where a breach would trigger jail time.

1157
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 4: I don't know, Dean, you could probably take your job

1158
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 4: at this rate and the way you're coming up with

1159
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 4: better ideas. Thirteen away from AE. So we got the

1160
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 4: finalists this time of year, isn't it? Finalists for Quote

1161
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 4: of the Year?

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Speaker 16: Is that.

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Speaker 4: From Massi University. I'm going to go straight to quote

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Speaker 4: number two.

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Speaker 2: Let's be clear.

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Speaker 13: You know, I'm wealthy, I'm sorted.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to brag, but I was there when

1168
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,479
Speaker 4: he said that, Like I was literally here. I was here,

1169
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 4: and he was there in that chair and he said

1170
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 4: it and I'll be completely honest. You didn't even strike

1171
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 4: me as a big dealer. He said it, and I

1172
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 4: was like, in fact, you are wealthy, you are sorted.

1173
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 4: Everybody else flipped their lids about it, and it kind

1174
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 4: of took me by surprise. But anyway, he's in there.

1175
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 4: He's in there with that quote, which has kind of

1176
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 4: got something to do with me, So I like it.

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00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 4: Ruby Tooh, he's in there for chatting to King Charles

1178
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 4: at Buckingham Palace and you've got a love room out

1179
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 4: they have for like three rugby It's okay. I think

1180
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 4: the better one was when when she first met him

1181
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 4: and the first words she says to the king of

1182
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 4: her country because he is cheers mate, sup ge? How

1183
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 4: are ye? I think that one should be there anyway,

1184
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 4: In a similar vein after they gave him that big hug,

1185
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 4: there was a quote from one of Ruby to his

1186
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 4: teammates and I felt like he needed and I think

1187
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 4: we all felt like he needed the hug because we

1188
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 4: all saw how bad he was looking after the cancer treatment.

1189
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 4: Heaps of the quotes this year, I'm disappointed and I

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00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 4: feel like they're just rubbish. There was the cock at

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00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,240
Speaker 4: the Portado a police station. There was the Olympian complaining

1192
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 4: about his mattress at the village I've been sleeping on.

1193
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 4: There was the Crown solicitor after Polkinghorn got the not

1194
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 4: guilty verdict.

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Speaker 13: Is it a difficult case for me?

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00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 4: It was a difficult case for everybody. It wasn't a

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Speaker 4: difficult case for the hook who didn't show up anyway.

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Speaker 4: David Seymour on why we shouldn't ban Nazi symbols and salutes.

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Speaker 16: I hate those symbols and salutes, but I quite like

1200
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 16: knowing who the idiots and society are.

1201
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Speaker 4: I mean, their call, but it's just like just a call,

1202
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 4: isn't It's not that big a deal. But here's the

1203
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 4: one I reckon should win. This is my one. This

1204
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 4: is my pack for the best quote of the year.

1205
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 4: Jerry Brownlee just giving up when he saw the Maori

1206
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 4: party getting up to do the hooker. Did you hear it?

1207
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 4: He goes, don't do that, don't do that, And the

1208
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 4: look on his face, you got to see it with

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00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 4: the face as well, He's just like, oh, don't do that.

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Speaker 19: You know.

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Speaker 4: It's like he's like the mum of a three year

1212
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 4: old who's just watched the three year old tap out

1213
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 4: the toys out of the little toy bag like seven

1214
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 4: hundred times today and you've cleaned them up every single time,

1215
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 4: and he does it again, and you go, oh, just

1216
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 4: don't don't do that. You're just like ah, and you know,

1217
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 4: you know, his energy level is flatlining at that point. A.

1218
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 4: He just can't be bothered. He just he doesn't want

1219
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 4: them to do it. But because it's so much admin,

1220
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 4: so much admin after they do the hacker, but he

1221
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 4: can't stop them, and all he can do is go

1222
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 4: Jerry Brownie. However, even though look, I'm gonna go self

1223
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 4: interest here, even though Jerry is obviously no, don't do that.

1224
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 4: The quote of the year. If you go and vote

1225
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 4: for Luxen, I'll pay you some money because then I

1226
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 4: get something out of it, because then I can claim

1227
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,959
Speaker 4: credit even though I did nothing and didn't even realize

1228
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 4: it was a big deal. I'm going to pretend I

1229
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 4: did ten away from mate.

1230
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Speaker 1: Ever Ellen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real

1231
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Speaker 1: Estate News.

1232
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Speaker 4: Dogs, there'd be seven away from it. Hey, how's this

1233
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 4: for caring about your fans? A Auckland Football club setting

1234
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 4: up a group it's a fan representative group, And basically

1235
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 4: the point of the thing is to get feedback from

1236
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 4: fans and people who go along to the matches on

1237
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 4: how to make the experience even better. They've already got

1238
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Speaker 4: a chair for it. It's Tim Adams and he's with

1239
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 4: us now.

1240
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 23: Hey Tim, Hey, how's it going?

1241
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 4: Very good?

1242
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 2: Thank you?

1243
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 4: So how does this work? If you go along to

1244
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 4: a match can and you think, oh, that would be

1245
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 4: better if the hot dogs came by every five minutes

1246
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 4: or whatever. Could we just drop you a line and

1247
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 4: give you that feedback.

1248
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 23: Yeah. So each club has a fan feedback form which

1249
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 23: asks for feedback for anything about the about the game, transport, food, hostility,

1250
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 23: entertainment in that stuff. So one of those forms out

1251
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 23: and then it goes to the club and the club

1252
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 23: give that to us as a committee and we have

1253
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 23: look at that and see what areas you want to

1254
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 23: try and improve on.

1255
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 4: How much power have you got? Like if I wrote

1256
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 4: to you and I said I don't like going to

1257
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 4: Mount Smart and I'd much rather go to Eden Park,

1258
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 4: you pull that one off.

1259
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 23: Probably not, but I mean put it in if you want.

1260
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 23: I think those things are I mean we're starting out,

1261
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 23: we're early, early, early doors, but I think those things

1262
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 23: are good to know in the long term because you know,

1263
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 23: the group will want to know what fans feel about

1264
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 23: the stadium.

1265
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 4: Have you got have you got anything coming in just yet?

1266
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 23: Yeah, we've We've had an artificial survey to members only

1267
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 23: for the first two games while this was getting set up,

1268
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 23: and we've seen a bit of stuff in there about

1269
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 23: hospitality and entertainment for those first two games. So it

1270
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 23: was good to sit down at that and look at

1271
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 23: those at the meeting and talk about, you know, where

1272
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,439
Speaker 23: we are in terms of those things versus other other

1273
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 23: other places.

1274
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 4: Anybody raised the Mounts Smart versus Eden Park thing.

1275
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,439
Speaker 23: Ah, there was a bit of people saying Mounts Mu's

1276
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 23: hard to get to.

1277
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Speaker 14: Him.

1278
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 23: No, not just you, but I think you know, at

1279
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 23: the moment, it's a good size for what we're doing

1280
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 23: and you know, a great atmosphere. So I think those

1281
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 23: those fears maybe once you get to a game, will

1282
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 23: be dispelled a bit by some of those members.

1283
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 4: Tim Listen, this is a fantastic idea, and especially at

1284
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 4: the time where everybody's sort of fighting to get the

1285
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 4: fans to you know, to engage with various sports. Given

1286
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 4: there so much that we can get engaged with at

1287
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 4: the moment. Whose idea is this? Is this a you

1288
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 4: guys thing or an A League thing.

1289
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 23: It's part of the participation criteria for the A League,

1290
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 23: so every A League team has one and then there's

1291
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 23: a group of all the chairs that on a league

1292
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 23: wide f I g to then talk to the A

1293
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 23: League directly about things, which is exciting, But I think

1294
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 23: it's from white experience so far, or can I see

1295
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 23: are very genuine with their need and want to listen

1296
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 23: to their fans. They've been very, very upfront and very

1297
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 23: receptive to ideas, so I think whilst it's something they

1298
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 23: had to do, certainly a lot of tech block gets

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Speaker 23: size from that.

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Speaker 13: Point of view.

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Speaker 4: How stressful was that game last night?

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Speaker 23: Ah, yes, sir, that was That was definitely what I

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Speaker 23: call a league classic. Had a bit of everything, did it?

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Speaker 4: What did you know that? Did you did you feel

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Speaker 4: had you given up? Like had you left your seat?

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Speaker 4: Kind of thing? And then in the last five minutes

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Speaker 4: realize actually you didn't need to give up home.

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Speaker 23: Well, I mean, as a football fan you always know

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Speaker 23: this time and I think you have shown a bit

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Speaker 23: of character scoring on a late goal. So I was positive,

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Speaker 23: but you know, a bit nervous.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a bit nervous. Tim, Thanks very much, good luck

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Speaker 4: with all the fan feedback. That's Tim Adams, chairman of

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Speaker 4: Auckland f c's fan representative group. If you didn't watch

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Speaker 4: the game last night, what happened was that Melbourne were

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Speaker 4: leading for the vast majority of it. In the last

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Speaker 4: five minutes of stoppage time, Auckland FC managed to equalize

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Speaker 4: and so it was two too, and so they still

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Speaker 4: haven't lost. They've had basically wins in one draw. But

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Speaker 4: there was also the own goal. Now the own goal,

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Speaker 4: I mean there are own goals and then there are

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Speaker 4: own goals, and that was one of those. It was

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Speaker 4: one where the guys were like, oh, hold on, they

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00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 4: just kick the ball backwards to the to the you

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Speaker 4: know how they do that. They turn around. It's a

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Speaker 4: weird thing they do in football, turn around, kick the

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Speaker 4: ball backwards to the goalie and the goalie picks it

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Speaker 4: up and sort of punts it down the park. Except

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Speaker 4: the goalie just let it keep going and it went

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Speaker 4: straight into the goal, didn't it. Anyway, We're going to

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Speaker 4: talk to the commentary box about that next they are

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Speaker 4: with us, and also what's going on with Liam Lawson

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Speaker 4: News Talks hed.

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Speaker 1: B, setting the news agenda and digging into the issues

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Speaker 1: here the judis Ellen on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 1: Bailey's Real Estate, your local experts across Residential, commercial and

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Speaker 1: rural News Talks hed B.

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Speaker 6: Sprung Roomb.

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Speaker 8: No run, come.

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Speaker 9: Banda Carper take the ball by the Haunted New Zealand.

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Speaker 13: For the first time they win in Wellington.

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Speaker 2: Bet to bet to feats for the Phoenix and that

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Speaker 2: is full time.

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Speaker 13: A quite remarkable afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Whither heats in Melbourne orfen to Winnick Street stops at six,

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Speaker 1: but they preserve their unbet run.

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Speaker 24: They'll lowd Kaine Williamson goes past fifty yet again. Avenger, Well,

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Speaker 24: let this one go and then we'll do it for today.

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Speaker 24: Day two of the tests comes to an end, the

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Speaker 24: New Zealand's lead by three hundred and the four team

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Speaker 24: runs with seven wickets in hand.

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Speaker 1: The Monday morning commentary barks on the mic asking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

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Speaker 1: over fifty years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah and as with them, by the way, a pass eight.

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Speaker 4: As with every Monday, we have Guy Hevelt and Andrew

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Speaker 4: Saville with us. Hello, lads, right, are we excited about

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Speaker 4: this this test? Or are we just can we say

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Speaker 4: that we're redeeming ourselves guy? Or am I overdoing it?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 19: I think they can to an extent. It is a

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Speaker 19: dead rubber, obviously, and they have blown the series in

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Speaker 19: the first two games, which was massively disappointing, but they

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Speaker 19: finally batted well in their first innings and they're going

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Speaker 19: okay in the second innings and they bowled pretty well

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Speaker 19: as well. I'm looking forward when f Saudi retires, and

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Speaker 19: I've made my views on Tis out pretty clear.

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Speaker 8: I respect to.

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Speaker 19: Die a lot and I think he's been amazing for

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Speaker 19: New Zealand. But when he retires, I'm really looking forward

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Speaker 19: to seeing willow' rourke open the bowling with a new ball.

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Speaker 19: I think he could be absolutely deadly. We saw what

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Speaker 19: he did in stages of that innings England's first innings yesterday,

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Speaker 19: and when he gets a new ball in his hands,

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Speaker 19: I think it could be something special to watch. So

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Speaker 19: I think there's been enough out of this Test to

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Speaker 19: be like, okay, well, they've still got something there. Just

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Speaker 19: makes it even more disappointing. That they were so bad

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Speaker 19: in the first.

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Speaker 4: Two tests, is what does it say Sam about select

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Speaker 4: the selections. If we're waiting for somebody to retire, well.

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Speaker 13: It's going to bring that up too. I mean we

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Speaker 13: all sort of scratched our heads or looked sideways and

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Speaker 13: before the second Test when they didn't make any changes.

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Speaker 13: In hindsight, it's a wonderful thing. But what would have

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Speaker 13: happened if will Young had have been opening the last

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Speaker 13: couple of games, And what would have happened if, say

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Speaker 13: Mitchell Santner or a full time spinner was used in

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Speaker 13: the last couple of games, even though the pictures don't

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Speaker 13: turn a lot yet, just to have that variety apart

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Speaker 13: from the seam and fast ballers. So yeah, some head

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Speaker 13: scratching stuff's gone on the last few weeks. But look,

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Speaker 13: the Willow rawc has bowl tremendously well. There's nothing like pace.

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Speaker 13: You just can't beat sheer pace. He's got the height

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Speaker 13: as well, and he digs it in around the ribs

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Speaker 13: and around.

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Speaker 21: The bat handle.

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Speaker 13: So I looked I played very well, but it's been

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Speaker 13: a little too little, too late really in the series.

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Speaker 13: But there are signs there for the future.

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Speaker 4: Sav I think you're being overly generous. It's not a

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Speaker 4: hindsight thing because we were talking about this even before

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Speaker 4: the second Test. Were we that we needed to have

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Speaker 4: we needed to change things up because Devin Conway's formed slumped.

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Speaker 13: So yeah, so why if we can see it, why

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Speaker 13: can't they?

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Speaker 4: Well, this is the question what is going on here?

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Speaker 4: I mean going to like any do you have any

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Speaker 4: ideas because it looks to me a little bit like

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Speaker 4: they make this selections based on loyalty and weird punishments

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Speaker 4: if you don't take contracts.

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Speaker 19: That's exactly I'm not sure about the second well a

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Speaker 19: little bit in the second bit, but in the same breath,

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Speaker 19: like Devin Conway's got a full time contract this year

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Speaker 19: and he's still obviously been playing a lot for the

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Speaker 19: Black Cats. Kane Williamson's done the same thing and he's

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Speaker 19: playing pretty much every Test. But then tring Bolt, if

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Speaker 19: you look back to when he gave up his full

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Speaker 19: time contracts, never got a look at a Test match cricket,

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Speaker 19: So that side of things is a little bit interesting.

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Speaker 19: They are very very loyal selectors and it takes a lot,

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Speaker 19: and I mean a lot for them to drop someone

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Speaker 19: who has played a lot of tests for them, and

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Speaker 19: I'm talking you know, Devin Conway, I'm talking Tim Sow

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Speaker 19: the few other instances in the past where they've done

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Speaker 19: this sort of thing and people have been left wondering

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Speaker 19: why other players haven't had opportunities. So they are the

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Speaker 19: sort of I mean, I'm talking Gary Stead here. Luke

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Speaker 19: Ronkey has been part of that. I'm not sure if

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Speaker 19: he's a selector as such, but I'm sure he has

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Speaker 19: some input. Now. Sam Wells is a selector and before

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Speaker 19: him Gavin last and they've always been pretty pretty loyal

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Speaker 19: and really hard to move in terms of their thinking

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Speaker 19: around how the Test eleven or or so should look.

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Speaker 19: So I'm not overly surprised by what they've done, but

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Speaker 19: there have been some head scratching selection, that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: Sam.

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Speaker 4: I've been sent to text here to tell me that,

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Speaker 4: even though somebody loves me like a sister, I need

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Speaker 4: to stop commenting on football because I don't know what

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about. So you give me your tech and

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Speaker 4: you have.

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Speaker 13: Was that the same text so that day that you

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Speaker 13: that you you wanted Damien McKenzie and ahead of Boden Barrett,

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Speaker 13: and someone said you've got no idea. Maybe it's the

1446
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Speaker 13: same text there. Maybe it's a serial.

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Speaker 4: Text maybe, or maybe everybody's onto me that I just

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Speaker 4: maybe it's Barry, maybe it is maybe yeah, maybe he knows,

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Speaker 4: he knows, he's outing me. Hey, what do you make

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Speaker 4: of the own goal? Then that was I mean, there's

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Speaker 4: an their own goals.

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Speaker 13: Having having dealt with this team in the last three

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Speaker 13: or four weeks and even interviewed Alex Paulson, this young

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Speaker 13: goalie who's a superb young player, I didn't think i'd

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Speaker 13: see in a million years him and the auckland See

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Speaker 13: defense make a mistake like that the back pass. Basically

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Speaker 13: he was looking up rather than looking down at the

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Speaker 13: ball and he led it through for the own goal.

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Speaker 13: So that was bizarre in itself. But then to score

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Speaker 13: the equalizer to keep this unbeaten run going. Yes, they

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Speaker 13: didn't win all, you see, but they're still unbeaten. Yeah,

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Speaker 13: to score the equalizer basically in the last minute stoppage

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Speaker 13: time from a free kick drilled into the back of

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Speaker 13: the net, I said, yeah, gee, whiz, they've got They've

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Speaker 13: got the football gods on his shoulder at the moment,

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Speaker 13: haven't they just writing.

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Speaker 4: Down back pass? So that I know what that's.

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Speaker 13: Called later in the day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, week or something. Guy, what did you

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Speaker 4: make of It was pretty tense, wasn't it.

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Speaker 19: It was? It was awesome, wasn't it. I've been enthralled

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Speaker 19: by what Aukland you see have done around now.

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Speaker 13: It's Paulson.

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Speaker 19: He has been one of the reasons why, or one

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Speaker 19: of the main reasons why they have been going as

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Speaker 19: well as they have. In a couple of games, the

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Speaker 19: opposition has peppered the goal and he's done remarkably well.

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Speaker 13: To keep them out.

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Speaker 19: So I don't think you can be I mean, it

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Speaker 19: was embarrassing and he won't want to work it again.

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Speaker 19: I didn't drink the ball. Bobble bobbled a little bit,

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Speaker 19: so maybe not one hundred percent of his fault.

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01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 4: Oh bobbled did a little bit.

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Speaker 19: It did a little bit. I'm not saying I am

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Speaker 19: saying it. It is quite embarrassing. He might want to

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Speaker 19: watch it again. But he has been a guy who

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Speaker 19: has kept them where they are on the table in

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Speaker 19: a couple of games. Like he has been amazed.

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Speaker 13: I would imagine it's the only time in his career

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Speaker 13: he'll make it. He'll make him at that level. Who

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Speaker 13: make a booboo like that?

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Speaker 4: Happens to the best of us, doesn't it. So we've

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Speaker 4: got to cut him a bit of slack. We're all

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01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 4: allowed a few mistakes. We'll come back to you guys

1495
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Speaker 4: in just attack. It's fourteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio News.

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Speaker 4: Talks seventeen past back with the commentary Box Guy. Have

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Speaker 4: Elton Andrew Seville listen? Have either of you guys got

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Speaker 4: any intel on what's happening with Liam Lawson?

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Speaker 20: Are you all right?

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01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 13: Would you class as propert intel? There's a lot oading

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Speaker 13: around on the internet.

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Speaker 19: That's for sure.

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Speaker 2: What are you reading on the internet.

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Speaker 13: Wow, they're saying he's automatic, well not automatically, but he's

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Speaker 13: going to be. Some are saying he will he will

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01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 13: get the full red Bull drive. Some are saying, oh,

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01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:12,959
Speaker 13: he'll be in the racing balls, you know the team

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01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 13: he's in.

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Speaker 9: Yeh.

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Speaker 13: Look, I think we suggested this last week or the

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Speaker 13: week before Mike that I'm pretty sure he is going

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Speaker 13: to be driving in Formula one next year. And this

1514
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 13: is rid ball to a tee. They let everybody speculate

1515
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:28,600
Speaker 13: and they leave it. They leave a vacuum around their decisions.

1516
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 13: The decision look would have already been made, I'm sure,

1517
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 13: and the relevant people would have been told, were they

1518
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 13: just take their time?

1519
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 4: And are they doing just doing it for drama?

1520
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 13: I probably just to draw it out of But it's

1521
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 13: got surely has to be announced before Christmas for goodness sake?

1522
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 4: Oh why why does it have to be announced before Christmas?

1523
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 4: Why not drag it out some more? M because of

1524
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 4: this guy. Here's the thing. We thought we were going

1525
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 4: to get the announcement last week. Then we thought we're

1526
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 4: going to get the announcement this weekend, and there's nothing right.

1527
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 4: So it's caused some people to go, maybe there is

1528
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 4: something going on here.

1529
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 19: I think what we're learning is that we should not

1530
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:05,719
Speaker 19: try and predict what the hell is going to happen

1531
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 19: in Formula one. It doesn't seem like many people are

1532
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 19: getting it right. They haven't even announced that Sergio Pieris

1533
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 19: is going.

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01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 13: To be so I mean that maybe that's the issue,

1535
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 13: and that they're working out how to get rid of them.

1536
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 4: Yes, maybe that's the pre Christmas announcement, and then then

1537
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 4: maybe there's another announcement that they do sort of.

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01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:30,600
Speaker 19: In the new year, they really dreaming. I mean that

1539
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 19: seems they've all been saying that that's pretty much a

1540
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 19: fatal complete and that's been confirmed for about seems like

1541
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 19: about three or four months, and that still hasn't been

1542
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 19: officially confirmed. So I don't know what to make of

1543
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 19: a wr it. Look, he'll be driving in each one.

1544
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 19: I mean, it would be great to see them in

1545
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 19: the Red Bull car official Red Book car. But if

1546
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 19: he's in there, I still think that's that's going to

1547
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 19: be pretty cool.

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01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 13: By the way, it means they can squeeze another excuse me,

1549
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 13: three or four weeks out of us here there and

1550
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 13: sell a few more cans of fizzy drink. Maybe that's maybe.

1551
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 19: Maybe do you need to take your trip to the

1552
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 19: doctor before before Christmas?

1553
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,759
Speaker 13: I had the RONA a couple of weeks ago, told

1554
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 13: us on the throat guy, I've prison up.

1555
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:14,600
Speaker 4: I was going to say, I've had the COVID a

1556
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago, and you need to make sure

1557
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 4: you're not getting that because it's gonna I it hit

1558
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 4: me hard, but you're a bloke, so it's going to

1559
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 4: hit you.

1560
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: Really.

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01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 13: I saw you'd sounded blocked up the last week, so

1562
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 13: I it was COVID. You didn't realize people still got that.

1563
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 4: Thanks for caring enough to ask. But anyway, what do

1564
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 4: you guy, what do you reckon about the the NRL

1565
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 4: handing this team to P and G but then you know,

1566
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:38,480
Speaker 4: tying it to not getting involved with China.

1567
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 19: I haven't really sad I saw the headlines. I'll be honest,

1568
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 19: I I haven't actually kalt too much in the story.

1569
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 19: Oh look, I think that I didn't know the China link,

1570
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 19: so you might have this.

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01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,560
Speaker 4: Okay, so this is the China link, guy, is basically

1572
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 4: they've given the team. So they're given the team to

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01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:55,680
Speaker 4: P and G rather than US or anybody else who

1574
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 4: wants it. And then they've said to them, here's six

1575
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 4: hundred million for the next ten years to run the team,

1576
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 4: and you only get to keep the team if you,

1577
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 4: as a country do not sign a strategic geopolitical deal

1578
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 4: or a military deal with China, which means that the

1579
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,879
Speaker 4: whole thing is actually not about P and G deserving

1580
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 4: the team or making an NRL better. It's about a

1581
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 4: little China move there from the USA and Australia.

1582
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 19: Yeah, it's just ouzing politics.

1583
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 4: I hate that.

1584
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 19: Yeah, I'm not huge on that at all. Before I

1585
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 19: had heard that side of things, I thought it was

1586
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 19: quite cool that there was going to be a pupa

1587
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 19: new Guinea team in the NRL. They love I think

1588
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 19: rugby league over there.

1589
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely love it.

1590
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 19: So I'm not sure I'd want to go and play

1591
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,680
Speaker 19: a game there if I was, like, they are just

1592
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 19: rabid for their rugby league over there, So I'm not sure.

1593
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 19: I think it would be quite an intimidating place to

1594
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 19: go to go and play rugby league.

1595
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 13: But it's not the first time. It's not the first

1596
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 13: time countries of big countries have offered money to the

1597
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 13: Islands as are headed with a bit of an asterisk

1598
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 13: beside the money.

1599
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 4: No, but is it going to make your n r

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01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 4: L better for you to watch?

1601
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 19: Look?

1602
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 13: I think P and G have been screaming out for

1603
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 13: a team for a long time and they they are

1604
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 13: immense rugby league fans. They go absolutely crazy that all

1605
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 13: the league ossie league stars are superstars and P ANDNG.

1606
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 13: I think it'll work. They get the right players and

1607
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 13: right coaches, so I think it will be great for

1608
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 13: the competition.

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01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, okay, well here's hoping, all right, lads, have

1610
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 4: you guys got interesting things to do this summer.

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01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 3: Work.

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01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 4: Oh isn't that? Isn't that so many people's stories? Sav

1613
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 4: what are you doing? You've gone very que.

1614
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 13: Eeting the next couple of weeks.

1615
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 4: Yep, I'll be doing the same as you, So I.

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01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 13: Find that I find that quite interesting.

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01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 19: That doesn't sound much different from the rest.

1618
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 2: Of the.

1619
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 13: Working your way around the Christmas buffets and stuff.

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01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 4: Guys, listen, enjoy your summer breaks. It has been lovely

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01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 4: to chat to you. Merry Christmas and we'll see you

1622
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 4: again in the new year. That's guy. Have Elton Andrew

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01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 4: Savelo Commentary Box this Monday eight twenty two.

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01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,600
Speaker 1: The Monday Morning Commentary Box on the mic Hosking Breakfast

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01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 1: with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

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01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 1: over fifty years.

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01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 2: Heather Duplessy Allen on the mic.

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01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with al Vida Retirement Communities News Togs.

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01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 2: He'd be hither.

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01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 4: The rumors are that Sugio Perez's buyout figures up around

1631
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 4: seventy five million euros and that could be the reason

1632
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 4: for the delay. Like what they're trying to get, trying

1633
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 4: to trying to find the money trying to get alone,

1634
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 4: trying to just scratch around the back of the couch

1635
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 4: see if they can find it. Murrayolds, what was that

1636
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 4: twelve or it's twelve mil? Not this Sam knows these

1637
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 4: things because he's across this twelve mil, not seventy five mil.

1638
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 4: But it's a lot of money anyway. I don't know

1639
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 4: about you, but I mean I wouldn't find twelve mil

1640
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 4: if I scratched around in my house, would you? Eight

1641
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 4: twenty six? Now, Murrayold's is going to be a us

1642
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 4: shortly interesting. Okay. If you were watching one News last night,

1643
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 4: you would have seen this. There was a story about

1644
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 4: what's going on with these townhouses and stuff overheating. This

1645
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 4: is a bit of a problem that's happening in a

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01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 4: lot of high density houses. At the moment, Danny, it

1647
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 4: was Danny's house. Danny had a thermometer in his house

1648
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 4: and his townhouse in christ Church. Problem for Danny's thermometer

1649
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 4: got over fifty sent to great right fifty degrees. Problem was,

1650
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 4: obviously Danny had put his thermometer in the sun. So

1651
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 4: if you want a proper reading, you've got to take

1652
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 4: it out of the sun. Just put it somewhere further

1653
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 4: in the room, but regardless, it's getting hot in there anyway. Problem.

1654
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 4: So they're trying to figure out what is going on

1655
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 4: with these new builds and why they're overheating, because obviously

1656
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 4: we're trying to keep them warm in the winter, but

1657
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 4: then we're getting them too warm in the summer, and

1658
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 4: they're looking at the ventilation and the insulation and stuff.

1659
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 4: I don't know a lot about building, but I feel

1660
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 4: like the problem is that there's no shade in these houses.

1661
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 4: You know, back in the old day, you'd build a

1662
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,799
Speaker 4: house that would have like a canopy over the window,

1663
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 4: just give it a bit of shade. None of the

1664
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 4: new builds have that. And the windows don't open wide enough.

1665
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 4: It's little cracks, do you know what I mean? Anyway,

1666
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 4: maybe they want to look at just being able to

1667
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 4: open the doors and let the hot air out, get

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01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 4: a bit of shade in there. Just the thought News

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01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 4: Us next.

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01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 1: The Breakfast show you can tru us Heather do for

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01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 1: Sellen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement Communities,

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01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 1: Life Your Way News togs Head be Heather.

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01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 4: I was right, Heather, the new townhouses have no eaves.

1674
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 4: They were for sheltering from the sun. It's much cheap

1675
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 4: cheaper to build without eaves. What you'll notice have a

1676
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 4: look at the townhouses, right, So they're just basically boxes

1677
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 4: in a row, which is kind of esthetically pleasing, and

1678
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 4: they're done, and all the funky colors like the charcole,

1679
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 4: you know, like half half charcoal half a bit of

1680
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 4: wood paneling and stuff.

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01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 16: Color.

1682
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, what why not?

1683
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 16: Isn't it basically dark gray?

1684
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 4: Yes, it's very cool at the minute because we're all

1685
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 4: into them. Remember the color of the year. Remember the

1686
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 4: color of the year is basically a used tea bag.

1687
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 4: So we're really into the browns at the moment. Anyway,

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01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 4: So you've got all these box things and looks very

1689
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 4: cool and it's very kind of you know, tight and

1690
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 4: tidy and stuff like that. But no balconies, no eaves.

1691
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 4: And if you look at the old houses, the way

1692
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 4: that you used to build a house like a villa

1693
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 4: or something like that, or even go to like really

1694
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 4: hot climates where you'd have sort of like I don't know,

1695
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 4: you know, ranch style houses and stuff like that. You've

1696
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 4: always got, haven't you. You've always got a balcony and

1697
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 4: you've always got a big stoop or something like that

1698
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 4: with a big old veranda around the front, so you

1699
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 4: can get a bit of that shade going on and

1700
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 4: stuff like that. This is what the townhouses aren't doing. Also,

1701
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 4: Sophie says, ours is painted white. We've got no issue.

1702
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 4: It's these trendy black charcot the ego trendy black charcoal colors.

1703
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 4: There you go, Sophie says, attract the heat in the

1704
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 4: and if you stick to the light colors you'll be

1705
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:40,600
Speaker 4: absolutely fine. So anyway, do your due diligence. What you

1706
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,640
Speaker 4: want to do if you get to buy a townhouse

1707
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 4: is you want to obviously buy the townhouse at the

1708
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 4: height of summer and then say to them, I need

1709
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 4: to spend a full day here just seeing how hot

1710
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 4: with my thermometer in the sun, seeing how hot it gets,

1711
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 4: and then you're gonna avoid this trouble. Twenty one Away

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01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 4: from nine.

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01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends in Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind,

1714
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:00,839
Speaker 1: Zealand Business.

1715
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 4: Murray old Ozzi corresponding with us right now Mars.

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01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 12: Hello, very good morning, do you Heather.

1717
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 4: So what's the reaction been to the last of the

1718
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:10,600
Speaker 4: Bali nine Getting back to Ozzie.

1719
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 12: Well, it depends who you ask, you know, the more

1720
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 12: conservative Australian voters, you know, you listen to talkback radio.

1721
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 12: The news broke yesterday afternoon and that the last five

1722
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 12: are now home. They flew into Darwin on the same

1723
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 12: airline that they flew they were planning to fly back

1724
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 12: all those years ago with heroin strapped to their bodies.

1725
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 12: There were five left. One died in prison. Of course,

1726
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 12: two were shot dead by firing squad. They were executed

1727
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 12: for their roles in this drug plot. And of course

1728
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 12: the only female was paroled early. And Renee Lawrence has

1729
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 12: been home. So Scott Rush, Matthew Norman, Sichi Chen, Martin

1730
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 12: Stevens and Michael Chugui. We're all serving life sentences. Anthony

1731
01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 12: Albanezi had a word to the incoming Indonesian president on

1732
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 12: the sidelines of a recent South American conference, and they're

1733
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 12: our home. And you know, the right wing here are saying, well,

1734
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 12: they should have stayed there. We don't want them back.

1735
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 12: The left is saying, well, you know, you don't get

1736
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 12: that long for murder, and it's time they were brought home. Interestingly, Heather,

1737
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 12: there's no additional punishment required. From back in Australia that

1738
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 12: he supervised obviously, and they will also you know, there's

1739
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 12: going to be no ongoing punishment. As I said, there's

1740
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 12: no more jail time, and I mean, let's put it

1741
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 12: that way. But you know they will be monitored and

1742
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 12: the government says, look, they've done the crime and they've

1743
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 12: now done the time. So the home in time for Christmas.

1744
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 4: What kind of state do you reckon they'll be in

1745
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,600
Speaker 4: after nearly twenty years in an Indonesian.

1746
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 12: Jail, I would be pretty messed up. I mean, it's

1747
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 12: not the Helton, is it. I mean, it's a pretty

1748
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 12: dreadful prison system. But then I mean, to show me

1749
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 12: a prison system it's any good. I'd be dreadful to

1750
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 12: spend twenty years, you know, and the best years of

1751
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 12: your life in a hellhole i've been in. In fact,

1752
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,640
Speaker 12: they've been scattered at different prisons Indonesia. It's not as

1753
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 12: they've even been together all these years. So look, I

1754
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 12: think for them and their families and the ones who

1755
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 12: love them, it'll be a very welcome Christmas present. But

1756
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 12: not everybody's doing handsprings.

1757
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 4: I can imagine that, Hey, Dustin will be pretty pleased

1758
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 4: to themselves when people are still talking about as nuclear land.

1759
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 3: Yeah they are.

1760
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:35,600
Speaker 12: And again I mean look, politics is fractured along ideological

1761
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 12: lines over here. There's no attempt anymore to have a

1762
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 12: common policy for the common good, for the commonwealth, none

1763
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 12: of that, particularly in the febrile environment we find ourselves

1764
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 12: in and the countdown to an election early next year.

1765
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 12: How early, we're not sure. It's up to alban easy

1766
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 12: to pull the trigger on that, but yes, Peter Dutton

1767
01:19:55,520 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 12: finally dropped his nuclear power planned last week, again the

1768
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 12: right wing saying, gee, where's well done, Pete. Excellent plan,

1769
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 12: notwithstanding the enormous cost that taxpayers will have to spend

1770
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 12: amen seven hundred billion dollars or something to build seven

1771
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 12: nuclear power plants. We'll be paying for that taxpayers. And

1772
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 12: also a couple of very important moving parts of the

1773
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 12: Dutton plan. It's going to delay the in fact, it

1774
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 12: will help the rollout of renewables as far as the

1775
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 12: Coalition's concerned. And somehow he's going to magically make the

1776
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 12: old coal fired power stations that are clapped out. Now.

1777
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 12: No one's willing to spend a dollar on trying to

1778
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 12: refurbish these things and keep them going, but the Coalition

1779
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 12: wants to keep them going.

1780
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 23: Well.

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01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:41,759
Speaker 12: Out of the twenty thirties, there are seven of these

1782
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,679
Speaker 12: and they're at the end of their lives. So who's

1783
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 12: going to refer these? We're not sure. The government says

1784
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 12: it's pie and the sky nonsense from a guy who's

1785
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 12: clutching its strawsaltion. The opposition of course, saying, well, Labour's plan,

1786
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 12: you know, it depends when the sun is shining and

1787
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 12: the wind is blowing. When that's not happening, base load

1788
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 12: power isn't being provided. So it's going to be another

1789
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 12: area of contest in the lead up to the election.

1790
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,560
Speaker 12: But underpending everything, it's cost of living that's going to

1791
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 12: be the big one for the election either.

1792
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 4: Maz listen, do we know what resort in Fiji these

1793
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 4: people got alcohol poisoned at?

1794
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 12: No, we don't. We're all you know. I just heard

1795
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 12: last night. I've been to the Coral coast of Fiji.

1796
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful spot.

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01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 12: Lots of lovely resorts there. I'm not sure exactly which resort. No,

1798
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:29,639
Speaker 12: we haven't. We have not learned that. But it's it's

1799
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 12: pretty serious. It's got echoes, hasn't it. Of Laos and

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01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:36,640
Speaker 12: the recent tragedy up there where those young people. There

1801
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 12: were two young Buzsie girls who died, but there are

1802
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 12: four Australians involved. In Fiji. Seven people rushed to hospital.

1803
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 12: Hang on, I've just looked it up here, thank you

1804
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 12: very much. Indeed my computer. The Warwick Resort, the Warwick,

1805
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 12: Fiji resort.

1806
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:53,839
Speaker 4: Now the War's not it's not it. That's but flash,

1807
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 4: isn't it.

1808
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 12: Well, look I'm not to stay there, but no doubt.

1809
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 12: You know Hosking in the line would be.

1810
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 2: I think he's a sweep there. Yeah, well he is.

1811
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:04,639
Speaker 2: That's right.

1812
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 12: It's a very smart resort. Now is it deliberate? Is

1813
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 12: it an accident? We're not sure. The Fiji and Health

1814
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 12: Ministry is on the case and apparently the people who

1815
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:19,879
Speaker 12: have been taken ill have now been transferred to perhaps

1816
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 12: the best hospital in Fiji. So look, more news are

1817
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 12: coming through today and no doubt, lots of concern for

1818
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 12: these people. Yeah, particularly given what we saw in Laos.

1819
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 4: Marz, thanks very much, appreciate it. That's Murray Olds. Hoskin's

1820
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 4: got a suite there, he says, like he doesn't have

1821
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 4: a suite there himself. The Warwick is quite a nice

1822
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 4: a nice resort. I'll tell you what everybody's interested in,

1823
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 4: because who hasn't been to Figi lately. Right, you'll have

1824
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 4: been to Fiji in the last five years, A hot

1825
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 4: on wind to close the borders. Now you'll have been

1826
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 4: to Fiji in the last six years, and we've all

1827
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 4: gone to the Coral coast. In fact, the last time

1828
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 4: I went to Fiji, which was this year, I went

1829
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 4: to the Coral Coast. Anyway, Lisa, I'm starting to I'm

1830
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 4: starting to feel slightly nervous about drinking cocktails when I'm overseas.

1831
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 4: How are you feeling about that? The economy now, very

1832
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 4: interesting thing on the best performing economy in the world

1833
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 4: and what we can learn from that. I'm going to

1834
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 4: run you through at next quarter two the.

1835
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Speaker 1: Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

1836
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 1: News Talks that be hither.

1837
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 4: I went to the Warrick in May. It's a dump

1838
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 4: to be fair, some of those star ratings in Fiji

1839
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 4: are a little dodgy of later, aren't they? Twelve away from nine?

1840
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 4: Now the economists. The Economist has done a really interesting

1841
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:33,759
Speaker 4: thing in the last week or so where it's ranked

1842
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 4: which economies just did best over the last year. And

1843
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 4: it's not just looked at it not just looked at

1844
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 4: economic growth, but it's actually looked about five different economic

1845
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 4: indicators and financial indicators. Had to look at GDP, had

1846
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 4: a look at stock market performance, core inflation, unemployment, and

1847
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 4: then government deficits and basically looked at thirty seven. I

1848
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 4: don't know how they picked these thirty seven countries, but

1849
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 4: they mostly rich countries. So it's probably that we came

1850
01:23:57,200 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 4: in at three out of thirty seven, which will surprise no.

1851
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 4: One because our GDP is at zero point eight. Our

1852
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 4: share prices percentage change over the last year is eight

1853
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 4: point two, which is really not that flash. Our inflation

1854
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 4: was still sitting too high at three point two, et cetera,

1855
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 4: et cetera. Australia, by comparison, sitting at twenty one. The

1856
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 4: only country is below US Finland, Turkey, which is a

1857
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 4: total cotcase, Latvia and Estonia, so you know we're not

1858
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 4: in good company. Number one Spain interesting aim because I

1859
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 4: looked at it and I thought, is this for real?

1860
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 4: Number two Ireland Obviously Spain GDP three point five percent,

1861
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 4: share price has changed seventeen point one percent. Inflation sitting

1862
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 4: comfortably at about two point four percent. Anyway, I had

1863
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 4: a look at it last week. I thought, is this

1864
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 4: an okay server? I mean, it's the economist, right, so

1865
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 4: it's incredible, but Spain, Spain is a cockcase. Well no,

1866
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 4: it's not a cockcase anymore, is it. And so anyway,

1867
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 4: the economist has looked at looked more deeply into it

1868
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 4: and given us a few lessons that we can learn.

1869
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 4: And it's weird how many of these lessons actually lies

1870
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:03,640
Speaker 4: in New Zealand. So the first lesson from Spain is

1871
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 4: basically how they've managed to well turn their economy around

1872
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:10,679
Speaker 4: from being a copcase. Number one, spend your time focusing

1873
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 4: on services, not focusing on manufacturing. Now that's interesting because

1874
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 4: we have been focusing on manufacturing a lot this year

1875
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 4: because we had all a bunch of manufacturing plants closed

1876
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 4: down right, the pulp and paper mills and all that

1877
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 4: kind of stuff. So we've been getting really exercised about that.

1878
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 4: They're like, don't worry about that. Move up the value chain.

1879
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 4: Do what Spain has done. Spain is exporting consulting services

1880
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:32,839
Speaker 4: and technological know how, getting really hard into the tourism,

1881
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 4: which we seem to be dropping the ball on a

1882
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 4: wee bit. Another lesson is stay open. Young people used

1883
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 4: to leave Spain for opportunities. They are coming back to

1884
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,679
Speaker 4: Spain for opportunities. How much does that sound like something

1885
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 4: we need to do right? And they're getting the migrants,

1886
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 4: and they're low paid, they're low skilled, but at least

1887
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 4: they're increasing the size of the economy. Also welcomed investment

1888
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 4: from Chinese firms. Listen there for us again, get the

1889
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 4: foreign capital in. They've got a car maker and a

1890
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 4: Chinese battery maker opening up manufacturing in Spain. And then

1891
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 4: finally the most important thing they reckon. Spain shows that

1892
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 4: structural reforms bring long term rewards. Most of its recent

1893
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 4: success reflects decisions after the financial crisis to reform its

1894
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 4: banks and labor market, both of which are things that

1895
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 4: our government are looking at at the moment. They've made

1896
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 4: it that they've had a crack at the bank, sorted

1897
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 4: that out, and then also made it easier for bosses

1898
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 4: to renegotiate contracts. So if the government carries on the

1899
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 4: way it is doing those things, maybe in years to come.

1900
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Speaker 2: We will see the rewards.

1901
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 4: Fingers crossed nine away from nine.

1902
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: Heather duplicy Ellen Pond, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with the

1903
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 1: range Rover, the La.

1904
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 4: Newss b Heather is that the Spain that's using water

1905
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 4: pistols against the tourists. Yeah, is one and the same.

1906
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:45,839
Speaker 4: So maybe too much of a good thing. I suppose

1907
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 4: six away from nine.

1908
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 1: So the bread trending now the Chemist Warehouse, the home

1909
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 1: of big brand fightamins.

1910
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 4: There it is the Brits. They are loving a new

1911
01:26:58,280 --> 01:26:59,719
Speaker 4: documentary based on Wham.

1912
01:26:59,800 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: Now.

1913
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 4: Any self respecting brit slash, anybody who understands music would

1914
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 4: tell you, Whem's Last Christmas? What am I talking about?

1915
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 4: Last Christmas? You know what I'm talking about? That one

1916
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 4: is right up there with Mariah Carries Christmas Song as

1917
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 4: the best songs ever written in the history of the

1918
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 4: world about Christmas and the totally right. And because of that,

1919
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 4: they're done what's called Wham Last Christmas Unwrapped, which is

1920
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 4: an in depth look into the tune and the genius

1921
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:23,719
Speaker 4: of George Michael.

1922
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 2: Things could hardly have gone any better for us that year, and.

1923
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 4: It would be great to finish it off with a

1924
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 4: Christmas song.

1925
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 13: It would be impossible to consider yourself the biggest success

1926
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 13: ever without having a number one a Christmas.

1927
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 2: Suddenly this melody came into my and Andy to come

1928
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 2: listen to this.

1929
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 1: George insisted that he play everything himself on that record.

1930
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 2: Top three at last Christmas Heartbreaker.

1931
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:03,719
Speaker 7: We were convinced like Christmas and one crowning Glory would

1932
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 7: be ours.

1933
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Speaker 3: Everything was ready.

1934
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 4: So it's out now in the UK on Netflix. It's

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Speaker 4: out sometime today in the US, which means we will

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Speaker 4: get it at some stage. You can watch it on

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Speaker 4: TVNZ one eight o'clock on Christmas Eve and then at

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Speaker 4: some stage presumably on Netflix now. Weirdly okay, so you

1939
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 4: would have heard them say there George Michael played every

1940
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:28,599
Speaker 4: single instrument on that track, So I went, I made

1941
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 4: I made the three year old listen to it with

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01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:34,839
Speaker 4: me at the weekend. Played every single instrument. X drums,

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01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 4: excellent keyboards, excellent bass. Dodgy is all how really weird

1944
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Speaker 4: weird bassline? Get how weird this?

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Speaker 2: What about this?

1946
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 4: Drums? How about that? Anyway, it was because he's a micromanager.

1947
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 4: But you don't get anywhere without being a micro manager.

1948
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 4: You want to be successful to be a micromanager.

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Speaker 16: Business really what you want to be. On Christmas Eve

1950
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Speaker 16: was watching a documentary about this one song.

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Speaker 4: No, what I What I have discovered, Glenn, is that

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Speaker 4: actually you can recall things and then you can watch

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Speaker 4: back later.

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Speaker 16: All right, It's just that last New Year's Eve, we

1955
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Speaker 16: watched the documentary about George Michael, you know, and n

1956
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 16: was a very depressing music.

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Speaker 4: Yes, where is that?

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Speaker 16: We went out for drinks earlier, I just want to say,

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Speaker 16: then came.

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Speaker 4: So it was half good.

1961
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Speaker 16: Have I have I revealed too much about life in

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Speaker 16: the hearth household?

1963
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Speaker 17: Maybe?

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Speaker 4: See it's honestly going home and watching videos about George Michael.

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Speaker 4: Anyway to get the videos? What am I nineteen eighty five?

1966
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Speaker 4: Go and have a look at this. Go and listen

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Speaker 4: to the track. See what I mean about the baseline.

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Speaker 4: You'll see what I mean when you listen to it. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: it would be back with you tomorrow. Enjoy the rest

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Speaker 4: of your.

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Speaker 2: Day, newsbooks you me.

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Speaker 1: News Talk SETB from six am weekdays, or follow the

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