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Speaker 1: Now in the never ending Darlene saga, the Greens have

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Speaker 1: now set a new date for party members to decide

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Speaker 1: whether they're going to Booter out of Parliament or not.

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Speaker 1: Get to hold a meet in October seventeen. Chloe Swarbrick

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Speaker 1: is the Greens co leader. Hey, Chloe Childer, how are

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Speaker 1: you very well? Thank you? Do you reckon you've got

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Speaker 1: the numbers if you've got the seventy five percent support

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Speaker 1: amongst the delegates to kick her out.

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Speaker 2: I am incredibly confident in the wisdom of our party

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Speaker 2: and that's part of the reason that we've also set

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Speaker 2: the stage with the opportunity for our members to properly

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Speaker 2: deliberate on a number of pieces of information, notably what's

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Speaker 2: transpired in the last month or so, and to come

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Speaker 2: to a well considered opinion.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so you've got confidence in the wisdom of the party,

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Speaker 1: but does that mean that you've got confidence you've got

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Speaker 1: seventy five percent?

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Speaker 2: Look again, I don't want to get ahead of ourselves here.

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Speaker 2: We are very proud. I'm sure you have had many

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Speaker 2: Green Partty co leaders on your show over the last

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Speaker 2: few years saying that we're very proud of our internal democracy.

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Speaker 2: And look, I would to be completely straight up and

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Speaker 2: say that as at the best of times, we've demonstrated

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Speaker 2: democracy can be messy, but ultimately that heering from everyone

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Speaker 2: in the room and making sure that we move forward together.

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Speaker 1: As you know what they say, you never call you

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Speaker 1: never call for a vote unless you know you're going

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Speaker 1: to win a day. So you might be making a

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Speaker 1: mistake here.

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Speaker 2: Are You're looking at Sunsu out of war, aren't you.

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Speaker 2: Look what we've said is that we very clearly as

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Speaker 2: a caucus and we haven't come to the position lightly

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Speaker 2: is based on that independent expert investigation into the facts

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Speaker 2: and the behavior of d'arlan Tana that we very clearly

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Speaker 2: have come to the conclusion that she is not fit

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Speaker 2: to be a member of parliament and we have moved

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Speaker 2: forward to put that recommendation to our party to reconcile.

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Speaker 2: Actually with an unprecedented situation, we have never been in

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Speaker 2: a situation before where we have had somebody who has

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Speaker 2: been elected on the Green Party list who we have

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Speaker 2: come to the conclusion is unfit to be a member

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Speaker 2: of parliament, yet is intent on sticking around.

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Speaker 1: If your delegates do say yes, how fast can you

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Speaker 1: remove her?

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Speaker 2: So as I understand the legislation as it presently sits,

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Speaker 2: is that subsequence to that SGM and our delegates giving

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Speaker 2: that endorsement. If that worship the case, then we would

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Speaker 2: write a letter to the speaker. And actually the legislation

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Speaker 2: is relatively silent on how quickly the Speaker would then

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Speaker 2: need to move, but that would sit within his discretion,

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Speaker 2: and as I understand it, things could move relatively quickly,

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Speaker 2: especially given that Darlene has already resigned herself as a

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Speaker 2: member of the Green Party.

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Speaker 1: And then what do you think she's going to do.

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Speaker 1: Is she's just going to take this one lying down

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Speaker 1: or she challenged you again.

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Speaker 2: Look, I've kind of given up on guestimating what Darlene

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Speaker 2: Tana will do. What we've been focused on is consistently

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Speaker 2: continuing to perch our values at the forefront of ear

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Speaker 2: with integrity.

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Speaker 1: You should be thinking about this because this is her,

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Speaker 1: because it's this is I mean, this is making this

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Speaker 1: makes you guys look like idiots in public, Well I

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Speaker 1: you are. I'm just saying she is making fools of.

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Speaker 2: You, and you're entitled to your freedom of speech. But look,

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Speaker 2: what I will say is that we have control over

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Speaker 2: what we have control over. And look, as I have

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Speaker 2: found in the last several years that I have been

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Speaker 2: doing this job and the public arena, everyone is always

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Speaker 2: going to have an opinion on free thing that you do.

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Speaker 2: The best that you can do is step with your

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Speaker 2: values at the forefront and act accordingly, and we have

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Speaker 2: consistently done that, demonstrating and I think that it makes

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Speaker 2: it pretty clear on that independent investigation, our executive summary

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Speaker 2: that we put out there publicly as to why we

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Speaker 2: have come to that conclusion that Darlian Tanna is not

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Speaker 2: fit to be a member of Parliament, and we've simply

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Speaker 2: been asking for that accountability and that responsibility. And again

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Speaker 2: make the point here that if we were looking for

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Speaker 2: the best possible result, it would be for her to

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Speaker 2: take that accountability and responsibility and to resign herself. But

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Speaker 2: in lieu of doing that, we are stepping through the

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Speaker 2: motions and operating consistently and in line with our values.

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Speaker 1: Are you sure that you shouldn't just let this one go,

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Speaker 1: just leave her up there in siber area, because it

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Speaker 1: just you know, because this could just keep on dragging

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Speaker 1: on and making fools of you.

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Speaker 2: Again, we have control over what we have ConTroll over,

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Speaker 2: and what we have control over is going back to

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Speaker 2: our party membership and saying, let's reconcile with this deeply

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Speaker 2: unusual and for the first time that we've ever been

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Speaker 2: confronted with this situation. A member of Parliament that was

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Speaker 2: elected on our list, noting three hundred and thirty thousand

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Speaker 2: New zealanderss across the country vote of the month's recent

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Speaker 2: election to give the Greens fifteen seats in Parliament to

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Speaker 2: fight for people on planet. We're now down one of

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Speaker 2: those seats and the vote that comes with that seat.

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Speaker 2: But also obviously the kind of proportionality of questions that

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Speaker 2: are afforded in the House, and also the likes of

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Speaker 2: the resources that we have to go out there to.

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Speaker 1: Way money to engagatually. Want your money back, Chloe had, Well,

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Speaker 1: how do you feel about the fact that there is

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Speaker 1: a wealthy Green Party donor backing her?

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Speaker 2: I am not interested in really speculating on her. If

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Speaker 2: it's backing her.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't that show you that the party's divided on this.

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Speaker 2: I think that you'll find in any given political party

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Speaker 2: that there'll be a difference of opinion, and you could

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Speaker 2: probably find one person on any given issue who will

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Speaker 2: disagree with whatever their leadership's up to, so I'm pretty

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Speaker 2: comfortable with that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Chloe, appreciate time. As always, it's Cloe Swarbrick,

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Speaker 1: Green Party co leader hear the why does Chloe think

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