1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: It seems the greyhound scrap isn't over. Industry is off 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: to court. They want a judicial review on the government's 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: decision to close racing. This was Winston Peters, of course. 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Edward Renelle is the CEO of Greenhower Racing, New Zealand 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: and as well as Edward. 6 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: Morning. Yeah, good morning, Mike. 7 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: Have you got some legal advice on this. 8 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 2: Yes, we're being advised by Chris Finilis and the former 9 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: Attorney General on this way. 10 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: He's all over the place. He's down in christ Dutch 11 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: at the High Court where the water issue now he's 12 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: doing the greyhounds. What's he told you? 13 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: Well, we believe the ban is radical. The government took 14 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: only a few short months to make a decision that 15 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 2: takes away their livelihoods and lifestyles of generations. Are Keigwi's 16 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: based on selective information. We're seeking a judicial review to 17 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: expose the government's predetermined cavalier attitude to policy making. 18 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: The problem with the government, the problem with the government. 19 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: I was sure Chris's advice you're given he's been in 20 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: the government is that the government are actually allowed to 21 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: do whatever they wanted. They've got the numbers of the day, can't. 22 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: They Yes, there's still an expectation is process. It's Mike, 23 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: you know, since the minister appointed in November twenty three, 24 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: we have not been able to have a meeting with them. 25 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: We've had no engagement, we've had nothing in writing from 26 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: the government on the decision. The only way we've been 27 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: able to determine how the decision was made was based 28 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: on OIA and all the information, and it's through that 29 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: process we've seen that the cabinet paper that went to 30 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 2: cabinet was highly selective and did not present the complete facts. 31 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: And when you're looking to take away one hundred and 32 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 2: fifty nine million from the economy in one thousand and 33 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 2: fifty four jobs, surely you have an obligation to review 34 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: the full facts. 35 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, not fair enough. Having said that, though, what if 36 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: it's one of those procedural things where the court goes, Yep, no, 37 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: they didn't do their job. Go do your job properly, 38 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: and they go do their job properly, and you still 39 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: end up closed. 40 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: Well, I think if they go and do their job 41 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: properly in an undertaker review, they'll see that greyhound racing 42 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: is actually leading the way in sports industries from an 43 00:01:55,440 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: animal perspective, and our animal welfare standards exceed those Australia 44 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: to exceed those in many other racing jurissiction. So we 45 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 2: believe any further review will highlight that greyhound racing is 46 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: meeting it's expectations in the modern environment. 47 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: Okay, do you go into this bullish you're optimistic. 48 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: Look, I would rather not be going through this process. 49 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: I'd be rather sitting down with the government out buying 50 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: everything we're doing, and then in the ongoing sets we'd 51 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: be making to improve welfare. But we feel we have 52 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: to do this and we wouldn't be taking the section 53 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: if we didn't believe it was a strong case. 54 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: All right, well I wish I wish you were with 55 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: it. It would appreciate it very much, it would renew. We'll 56 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: follow it with a great delementarius greyhound racing New Zealand. 57 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: It's not like they weren't warned either. Miles Hurrell gets 58 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: my quote of the day as regards in my ongoing 59 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: fascination with this business of whether or not they're going 60 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,119 Speaker 1: to IPO their consumer brands. And that's your tiptop something 61 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: in the body sold tiptop at Capiti Cheese. All that 62 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: sort of stuff or whether they're going to just flick 63 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: it off. We got an update on that for you 64 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: in the next half hour of the program. For more 65 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: from the Mike Asking Breakfast, listen live to news talks 66 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast 67 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.