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Speaker 2: Ed B.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon and welcome to Weekend Sport Elliott Smith and for

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Speaker 3: Jason Pine this week game fifteenth for February twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon too. You're happy birthday two to Wendy's

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Speaker 3: cricketing like on Desmond Haynes kickboxer Ray Sifo Sugar Raycifo

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Speaker 3: Sugarfoot as he was, non Happy birthday to you if

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Speaker 3: you were celebrating as well. Super Rugby. Wasn't that a

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Speaker 3: great game last night? I had two great games the

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Speaker 3: Crusaders and Hurricanes play out of thriller in christ Church

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Speaker 3: is the Crusaders come back from mil to fourteen down

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Speaker 3: to win by eight and across the Tannsman. Maybe not

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Speaker 3: so good news for the Hoglanders, but a cracking game. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 3: I thought the Warritor pipping the Highlander is thirty seven

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Speaker 3: in the lead up to the Guitars winning try. If

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Speaker 3: that is the standard hope of Super Rugby this year

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Speaker 3: and the closeness of the games, then we are in

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Speaker 3: for a great competition. Plenty of rugby on the show

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Speaker 3: this afternoon, Kyle Preston, the New Crusaders half back and

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Speaker 3: hat trick hero on the way. Later, so to Blue

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Speaker 3: CEO Andrew Horp as the title defense begins for the

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Speaker 3: Blues tonight at Eden Park against the Chiefs. Incidentally, Life

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Speaker 3: commentary on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio for you received them surely.

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Speaker 3: Mark Robinson, New Zealand Rugby Chief Executive, will join us

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Speaker 3: on the ANIOF saga that has taken hold of the

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Speaker 3: game this week into court. It goes New Zealand Rugby

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Speaker 3: not getting the money from Inions who have decided to

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Speaker 3: withdraw their spend three years early. Where will this end up?

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Speaker 3: We'll get the New Zealand Rugby view with their chief

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Speaker 3: London after one. One of the big wigs from Dezonne

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Speaker 3: the streaming service, to join the program. During the process

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Speaker 3: of buying foxtowl across the Tasman What their plans for

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Speaker 3: well here to Australia as well. Adam Peacock as usual

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Speaker 3: Adelaide as well. How big were those scenes for Patrick

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Speaker 3: Reid's holding one yesterday? It's an absolute party in Adelaide.

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Speaker 3: Plenty to rip into on weekend sport. Your calls and

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Speaker 3: Envy where it is nine after midday certainly came like

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Speaker 3: a bolt from the blue earlier this week that New

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Speaker 3: Rugby a good three years early, citing market conditions reports

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Speaker 3: the court process has started from New Zealand Rugby. Plenty

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Speaker 3: New Zealand Rugby Chief Chief executive Mark Robinson with us

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Speaker 3: on the program this afternoon. Mark, Thanks for your time.

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Speaker 2: Elliot, Hi, nice to be with you.

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Speaker 3: I planned to get stuck into but two cracking games

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Speaker 2: But clearly the game in christ you've founded from the

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Speaker 3: news this week Mark Robinson that New Zealand Rugby launching

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Speaker 3: Is this Do you buy the excuse that it's market conditions.

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Speaker 3: They say they tried to see it all. What were

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Speaker 2: But look, I'm not in the commoedy more than that.

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Speaker 3: Do you regret the deal with any of us?

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Speaker 3: Have you heard from them since you know, the league

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to get into you know, the details

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Speaker 3: How do you fill a hole that has now been

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Speaker 2: Oh, I like I say, we're really pleased with the

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Speaker 3: For how long you obviously mentioned your going to the

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Speaker 2: Well, we're always we're always in the market having conversations

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Speaker 2: But look, ordinarily it can you view from sort of

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Speaker 3: You mentioned you've had communication from companies and your other

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Speaker 2: No, I don't. I mean, I think we've been really

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Speaker 2: We're doing that. We'll do that in a respectful way

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Speaker 3: All Black Sevens Black Fans Sevens teams going to wear

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Speaker 2: He's always going to be just a few things in

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Speaker 3: In a wider sense, how is the sports sponsorship market?

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Speaker 3: Because we hear about tightening belts and various things and

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Speaker 3: Is it a healthy sporting market that you're trying to

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Speaker 2: Well, I think across the country there'd be different views

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Speaker 2: But overall, as I say, the level of interest and

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Speaker 3: And a new boards not going to change that.

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Speaker 2: You don't think, no, there's been no conversations on this

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Speaker 2: You know, I think we've been really clear that we

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Speaker 3: Mark Robinson with us on new ZL on News Talk

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Speaker 3: CB this afternoon. Mark, obviously, broadcast deal is overrching and

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Speaker 2: Six Again, obviously can't talk too much more about that nearly.

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Speaker 3: Final question Mark Robinson, so grateful for your time. Look,

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Speaker 2: Well obviously over here at the moment. And now I

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Speaker 3: Mark Robinson joining us on News Talk ZB this afternoon,

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Speaker 3: New Zealand Rugby Chief executive. What are we fifteenth of

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Speaker 3: February and plenty of rugby issues to get stuck into

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Speaker 3: we are out of here. What do you make of this?

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Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty teen eighty nine two ninety two

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Speaker 3: about one hundred jobs there or thereabout. Where do we

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Speaker 3: sit with that? Do you worry about New Zealand Rugby

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Speaker 3: because they've gone out and tried to get international partners

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Speaker 3: the OS, it's very easy to flick them, you know,

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Speaker 3: to worry about them. Is this a worry for New

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Eight hundred and eighty eight two nine two for a

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Speaker 3: text message? Afternoon, grunt? How are you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Elliott? Before we get on to the end of yours.

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Speaker 5: So debacle if we can call it that? Is there

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Speaker 3: My understanding is that they won't be coming at all

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, they said there've always been a law under

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Speaker 3: I guess if they've turned it down, there would have

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I guess it's how hard we does it go?

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Speaker 3: No, but you said that they do look overseas, don't they, Grant,

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Speaker 5: mean there was always the environmental thing that wasn't the

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Speaker 5: so on. But you know, I mean they're obviously you know,

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Speaker 3: In absolutely Yeah, they're working ar I'm sure over time

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Speaker 3: much nicely from you this afternoon, Grant oh eight hundred

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Speaker 3: the vehicles. Thank you Michael. Another one saying I'm so

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Speaker 3: overhearing that rugby is just a product we're bringing to

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Speaker 3: another one inios needs to pay up. A contract is

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Speaker 3: hear from you, Oh eight hundred and eighty nine two

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Speaker 3: more likely that they're going to have to go and

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Speaker 3: money that is now missing. Every year you know they're

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Speaker 3: taking They're talked about taking a French test to the

435
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Speaker 3: United States. They're going to play to be confirmed, but

436
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Speaker 3: most likely in Chicago later in the year again in Styland.

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Speaker 3: How far away until they start looking and take more

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Speaker 3: tests away from New Zealand to fill this financial hole

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Speaker 3: that in THEOS is leaving twenty nine away from one

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Speaker 3: News Talk ZB more of your texts and calls after this.

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Speaker 1: The big issues on and after Field Call eighty ten

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Speaker 3: Baby Heaves the calls and texts reacting to that Mark

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Speaker 3: Robinson interview coming through. Let's go to the lines and say, afternoon, Peter,

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Speaker 3: how are You's?

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Speaker 6: Yeah good, I'm just out of interest so I get

448
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Speaker 6: more stuff done in the yard between midday and three

449
00:24:46,827 --> 00:24:49,907
Speaker 6: nice Saturdays and Sundays because of the sports. So I'm

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Speaker 6: blaming you.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's good productive.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, any off. I think we don't need to

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Speaker 6: flatter ourselves and say this is a big deal from

454
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Speaker 6: and in the OSS point of view, because all it

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Speaker 6: means is that Jim Radcliffe has changed his philosophy because

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Speaker 6: he dropped one of the most winning cycling teams on

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Speaker 6: the UCI World Tour. He dropped Ainsley who hadn't won.

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Speaker 6: He hadn't won, but he'd gone pretty close a few times.

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Speaker 6: So this is a very high level decision on the

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Speaker 6: Ennios point of viewer and they weren't taken on New

461
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Speaker 6: Zealand Rugby. They were just changing direction, you know. And

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Speaker 6: the guy's got billions of dollars, so eight million dollars

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Speaker 6: a year which they haven't paid us to him. It's

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Speaker 6: neither here nor there, but he's just changed direction.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 6: He's probably a god that's not used to being told no,

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Speaker 6: so he's not a guy that gives up on challenges easily.

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Speaker 6: So you know, he just likes to get his own way.

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Speaker 6: And fair news. You know, when you've you've obviously worked

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Speaker 6: enough to make so much bloody billions of dollars, you

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Speaker 6: get to choose how you spend it. And he's not.

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Speaker 6: He's not just singled out in New Zealand rugby. He's

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Speaker 6: walking away from sport in general. So you know, I

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Speaker 6: mean it's a bagafer New Zealand Rugby. Certainly it is

475
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Speaker 6: because they went into this with the full intention of

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Speaker 6: delivering the everything that they said that they would deliver,

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Speaker 6: and they were doing so. So it's not New Zealand

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Speaker 6: Rugby's fault. But let's not flatter ourselves and say that

479
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Speaker 6: it's a big you know that it's all about New

480
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Speaker 6: Zealand rugby when it's not it's in the office, is

481
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Speaker 6: just walking away from sport. So you know, I mean, well,

482
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Speaker 6: we'll have to find someone else to pay the bills.

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Speaker 6: So otherwise the players are going to take a take up,

484
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Speaker 6: and God for bid that should happen. But yeah, it's

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Speaker 6: just in the great scheme of things. Let's get on

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Speaker 6: with it. Find another sponsor. Because Jim Radcliffe has he

487
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Speaker 6: been to New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: He has been. See he came to the America's Cup

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Speaker 3: when was there twenty twenty one, he was there. He

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Speaker 3: was there then, So I mentioned there was probably where

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Speaker 3: a lot of these deals were talked about and done

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Speaker 3: with New Zealand. Rake, But I think you're right. I

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Speaker 3: mean you list off those companies, those teams that he's

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Speaker 3: getting out of. He's now got in with Manchester United,

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Speaker 3: which I think is a boyhood club. It's probably you know,

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Speaker 3: a bit of you know, having just a you know,

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Speaker 3: the bill that he'd own Manchester United. It's probably quite

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Speaker 3: a nice for him. But even they're cutting a hundreds

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Speaker 3: of jobs to try and make it financially viable. So

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Speaker 3: you don't become a billionaire by making too many friends,

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Speaker 3: do you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, when you're a Liverpool fan, you quite

503
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Speaker 6: enjoy seeing Manchester. You're not who go through that sort

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Speaker 6: of thing.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I think you're right, Peter. And look it's

506
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Speaker 3: another sponsor will come along and patch that whole. It's

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Speaker 3: just a matter of how long it takes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Well I didn't know who Eltrade was until they were

510
00:27:34,267 --> 00:27:36,547
Speaker 6: splashed across the front of the jersey either, so you

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Speaker 6: know in theos who were they? Oh, that's right, they're

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Speaker 6: a petrochemical company that pays the bills. Well, something will

513
00:27:42,627 --> 00:27:45,907
Speaker 6: come along. I personally would rather see spates written across

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Speaker 6: in front of the jerseys, you know. But there's not

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Speaker 6: enough money in New Zealand to do that sort of thing.

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Speaker 6: We really do need one of these big international guys.

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Speaker 6: It's got really deep pockets. But wouldn't it be nice

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Speaker 6: if one of them was a rugby fan, you know

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Speaker 6: who actually who was actually a rugby person. Wouldn't that

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Speaker 6: be nice?

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Speaker 3: It would be nice, Peter, Thanks to your call. I

522
00:28:04,027 --> 00:28:07,227
Speaker 3: think mister Altrad himself as a be fann, although there's

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Speaker 3: been some questionable stuff going on there. I guess New

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Speaker 3: Zealanders doesn't have the the pockets commercially to sustain some

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Speaker 3: of these deals where New Zealand rugby wants to go

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Speaker 3: New Zid Cricket look at them. Seems like every time

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Speaker 3: they play in India they patch with an Indian sponsor

528
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Speaker 3: that no one's ever heard of. I don't think New

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Speaker 3: Zealand rugby is alone in that. If you were in

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Speaker 3: a more domestic market, perhaps like the Warriors. A lot

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Speaker 3: of their sponsors are grassroots New Zealand Kiwi companies advertising

532
00:28:38,907 --> 00:28:42,507
Speaker 3: to maybe Australia and New Zealand. But New Zealand Rugby

533
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Speaker 3: believes there's power in that brand of the All Blacks

534
00:28:44,747 --> 00:28:48,227
Speaker 3: globally they can dip into it. On this occasion, they

535
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Speaker 3: have been burned. Nice to hear from you this afternoon, Peter,

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Speaker 3: Let's go to Nicko afternoon.

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Speaker 7: Good afternoon. I just want to say my I personally

538
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Speaker 7: think the problem here is not in Nios. The problem

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Speaker 7: yere is mister Mark Robinson myself, he's just too soft.

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Speaker 7: But a few more rugby players were testing in the

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Speaker 7: Harka see that nothing he said nothing.

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Speaker 2: JT.

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Speaker 7: Pernardo were basically walking all over any protocol that ever

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Speaker 7: was involved that rugby team. Nothing has been said. I

545
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Speaker 7: think I think it needs to change at the top.

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Speaker 7: Is just too softly softy in all honesty, I think

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Speaker 7: it's taking a page out of just Sundo's playbook be nice,

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Speaker 7: but be nice does not favor balls.

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Speaker 3: You need a harder task master. You reckon at the top, Nico.

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Speaker 7: By you definitely, I mean New Zealand rugby as got

551
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Speaker 7: the potential, but I don't think the leadership. It doesn't

552
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Speaker 7: matter how much money you're pouring by justco deep and

553
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Speaker 7: deep into debt every year. It's deep and deep into debt.

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Speaker 7: So I think we need a change at the top.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Nika, nice to hear from you this afternoon, oh

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Speaker 3: eight hundred eighteen eighty nine, two ninety two for a

557
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Speaker 3: text message? What say you? Is this in your saga

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Speaker 3: symptomatic of a wider issue with the sport here in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand, or as Peter said, is it one often

560
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Speaker 3: he takes Jim Radcliffe and any ouse at their word

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Speaker 3: and they are getting out of sport. They do have

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Speaker 3: financial issues at play and they're pulling back and New

563
00:30:13,627 --> 00:30:17,107
Speaker 3: Zealand rugby is just being caught in the crossfire. Nothing personal.

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Speaker 3: I do wonder if Jim Radcliffe thought we can probably

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Speaker 3: just wave away in New Zealand. We'll write a number

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Speaker 3: on a napkin, send that to Mark Robinson and the

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Speaker 3: board and then it'll get it off the balance sheet

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Speaker 3: and you on Rugby's gone. That number is a bit short.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if that's what's happened. Sure, some money is

570
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Speaker 3: better than no money, but when you're expecting I've seen

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Speaker 3: the figures very this week, one d eight million a year.

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Speaker 3: I've sent it upwards towards twenty twenty one million dollars

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Speaker 3: a year. I mean there's a big difference in that alone,

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Speaker 3: isn't there could be talking with three years left on

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Speaker 3: the deal, anywhere between twenty four million dollars and fifty

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Speaker 3: to sixty million New Zealand dollars. Plenty of texts on

577
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Speaker 3: two Lit's up through a few of them. Warren says.

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Speaker 3: If the contractors Robust and the OSS will still have

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Speaker 3: to play pay until Endsida find a replacement because the

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Speaker 3: times are tough and OLS does not let them just

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Speaker 3: walk away from a contract. They're talking nonsense that it's

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Speaker 3: just okay to walk whenever and not pay. We'll keep

583
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Speaker 3: wearing their name. Is there contract ly still a sponsor?

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Speaker 3: We do not want to give them any reason to

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Speaker 3: be able to break the contract, hence the legal action.

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00:31:28,667 --> 00:31:30,507
Speaker 3: As long as the contract is strong. It's just when

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Speaker 3: we can say we can replace some good point Warren.

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00:31:32,987 --> 00:31:35,747
Speaker 3: That may well be why in New Zealand Rugby aren't

589
00:31:35,747 --> 00:31:38,907
Speaker 3: gonna scratch out in the OS ahead of that sevens

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00:31:38,907 --> 00:31:46,307
Speaker 3: event next weekend. Another one, how can Mark Robinson talk

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Speaker 3: about integrity when he picked the next All Blacks coach

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Speaker 3: before Fozzy hadn't finished his tenure and it was a

593
00:31:51,267 --> 00:31:55,027
Speaker 3: closed deal and we missed out on Joe Schmidt being considered.

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Speaker 3: That could have gone either way. I mean two schools

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Speaker 3: of thought. Do you get that coach locked in New

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00:32:01,387 --> 00:32:05,187
Speaker 3: Zealand Rugby would criticized for leaving it late last previous

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Speaker 3: time around, they went early. This time they get criticized

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Speaker 3: for that might be a no win situation for New

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00:32:12,347 --> 00:32:15,827
Speaker 3: Zealand Rugby on that and they also have had their

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Speaker 3: credit rating down graded. They have huge debts after Ratcliffe

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Speaker 3: has been spending like a drunken sailor. And Hayden says

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Speaker 3: this here here, Nico, where Weeks prefersible weasel wheat and

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Speaker 3: the Os mongrels walking away from sponsorship penalty fee. We

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Speaker 3: need some of them with Nico's bock attitude in charge, Hayden,

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Speaker 3: more of your calls and texts after this here on

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Speaker 3: Newstalk ZBB eighteen away from one.

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Speaker 3: Talk ZIBB fifteen away from one on Newstalks ZB Plenty

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Speaker 3: of calls and texts on this New Zealand Rugby in

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Speaker 3: the Os Sargent, let's rip through a few more. Love

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Speaker 3: to hear from you on eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 3: nine two nine two for a text message trying to

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Speaker 3: catch up with where I was. This depends on how

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Speaker 3: the contracts is, how good the lawyers are in the

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Speaker 3: power of the governing court to enforce. I think it's interesting,

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Speaker 3: isn't it this from Chris by the way, whether the

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Speaker 3: New Zealand Rugby actually want to go to a court

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Speaker 3: case on this. So we're they're trying to send the

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Speaker 3: frighteners up in the office by filing the action and

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Speaker 3: up that level of an exit clause. Evidently there wasn't

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Speaker 3: an exit clause in the contract between the two parties.

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Speaker 3: Which is interesting. No break clause, nothing like that, because

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Speaker 3: they would have surely had to pay at New Zealand

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Speaker 3: Rugby clearly think that they're in the right. Interesting one

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Speaker 3: from Herman, Please debate. If New Zealand Rugby is unhappy

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Speaker 3: with anyone's breaking the contract, then should it encourage mu

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Speaker 3: Wonga to break his contracts Herman, Well, I think if

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Speaker 3: you get really specific, they were looking for a page release,

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Speaker 3: so they were going to do it as much by

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Speaker 3: the book, or certainly by the book, they were looking

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Speaker 3: to pay some sort of release clause to get them

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Speaker 3: back to New Zealand Rugby and they move. Perhaps part

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Speaker 3: of that deal is what I've heard a bit later on,

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Speaker 3: maybe he goes back to Japan. Obviously it's not going

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Speaker 3: to happen now, but they were upfront and having meetings

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Speaker 3: with Tashiba and Warnger. But it certainly there's some similarities.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you that. Herman muzz Alligant, you would think

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Speaker 3: there'll be sponsors lining up because of the All Blacks brand. Well,

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Speaker 3: you'd hope so, because they talk about being a global

641
00:34:40,347 --> 00:34:42,427
Speaker 3: brand in New Zealand Rugby and the All Blacks being

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00:34:42,827 --> 00:34:45,267
Speaker 3: powerful and the global brands in the world of rugby,

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Speaker 3: they talk numbers, they talk significance compared to other sports.

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Speaker 3: They play what fourteen times a year on the world stage,

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Speaker 3: world TV coverage. It's a lot of exposure for certain brands.

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Speaker 3: I know from experience having gone overseas commentated All Blacks

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Speaker 3: games at the b and the All Blacks is strong worldwide.

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Speaker 3: I know seeing some of the launchers that have done

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Speaker 3: with ANYOS and some of the sponsorship experience have done

650
00:35:16,867 --> 00:35:20,267
Speaker 3: with ANYOS in London, for example, has been well attended,

651
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Speaker 3: has had any US's name up in lights alongside New

652
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Speaker 3: Zealand Rugby. It's a matter of how deep the pockets

653
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Speaker 3: are of these commercials that are willing to pay, isn't

654
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Speaker 3: it whether they have the money, whether they're going to

655
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Speaker 3: get the value out On the other side from New

656
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Speaker 3: Zealand Rugby, because they're targeting global brands, as we've discussed,

657
00:35:42,507 --> 00:35:45,227
Speaker 3: they're not targeting New Zealand brands. They have a suite

658
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Speaker 3: of sponsors that are New Zealand brands, likes of AGSB

659
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Speaker 3: and various others. But when you come when it comes

660
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Speaker 3: to marks on the jersey and on the shorts of

661
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Speaker 3: the All Blacks and some of the other teams in black.

662
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Speaker 3: These are big global conglomerates, not just New Zealand only companies.

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Speaker 3: That's the kind of financials that New zeald On Rugby

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Speaker 3: it's targeting. Maz Thanks very much for the text. This

665
00:36:10,587 --> 00:36:12,667
Speaker 3: is an interesting one which I hadn't realized until I

666
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Speaker 3: actually opened up the app myself. This is from Chris Gooday.

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Speaker 3: How acceptable do you think it is that the All

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Speaker 3: Blacks app, which has all things Rugby on it, still

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Speaker 3: does not have this year's Super Rugby drawer on there.

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Speaker 3: It's all just the results from last year in no

671
00:36:26,587 --> 00:36:28,547
Speaker 3: option to select this year. They want fan engagement to

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Speaker 3: be taken seriously and they even can't get that. Rice

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Speaker 3: Chris Well, I looked in the ad break I've got

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Speaker 3: the same app as you do, and looks like it's

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Speaker 3: closing down. They're All Blacks app. But directly you did

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Speaker 3: to New Zealand er. I've got a message saying this

677
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Speaker 3: app's closing something. You've got to download the New Zealand

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Speaker 3: Rugby at now. Whether that's got the drawer on there

679
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Speaker 3: for this year or not, I'm not sure, but they're

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Speaker 3: moving you across Chris to the New Zealand Rugby app.

681
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Speaker 3: So look, maybe that's got the drawer on it, maybe

682
00:36:56,427 --> 00:36:58,947
Speaker 3: it's not, but head to the app store or wherever

683
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Speaker 3: you get your apps on your phone and that might

684
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Speaker 3: be the goal to figure out this year's Super Rugby

685
00:37:03,867 --> 00:37:05,347
Speaker 3: draw But agreed, you've got to be on top of

686
00:37:05,387 --> 00:37:08,547
Speaker 3: those sort of things. If you want Super Rugby to grow,

687
00:37:09,627 --> 00:37:12,147
Speaker 3: you've got to make sure all the data is up

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Speaker 3: to dates. BARTI, with this one last one before the break,

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Speaker 3: can you please clarify. I was always under the impression

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Speaker 3: that in the OS purchased a share of the All

691
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Speaker 3: Blacks rather than sponsored the All Blacks. If they purchased

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Speaker 3: a share, surely it is up to any OS to

693
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Speaker 3: find a buyer for the share regards Barty. No, No,

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Speaker 3: this was just peeling an advertising deal. The silver ac

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Speaker 3: one was purchasing a share of New Zealand Rugby or

696
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Speaker 3: New Zealand Rugby's commercial arm that has now been splintered out,

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Speaker 3: So no purchasing of a stake as it were. It

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00:37:38,387 --> 00:37:42,067
Speaker 3: was purely a sponsorship deal. Or they talk about high

699
00:37:42,067 --> 00:37:45,627
Speaker 3: performance and synergies and various things like that, but money exchanged.

700
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Speaker 3: Goods given in the form of sponsorship and commercial experience

701
00:37:52,147 --> 00:37:54,907
Speaker 3: and one more. This is an interesting one from Michael

702
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Speaker 3: on the topic of Super Rugby after the Hurricanes last

703
00:37:59,227 --> 00:38:03,947
Speaker 3: last night. Very disappointing from the Hurricanes last night. Why

704
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Speaker 3: do the Hurricanes have four captains? From Michael? Michael couldn't

705
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Speaker 3: agree more co captains was bad enough if you can't

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Speaker 3: decide one player to be the captain, the sole captain

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Speaker 3: of the team. He just feels like you just don't

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Speaker 3: want to tell anyone that they're not the captain, so

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Speaker 3: you just share it around. Just make one player of

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00:38:30,787 --> 00:38:34,707
Speaker 3: the captain, make him the leader. Simple as that. It's

711
00:38:34,747 --> 00:38:37,987
Speaker 3: worked well enough in rugby and most sports. For goodness

712
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Speaker 3: knows how many years four co captains? Please Sin the

713
00:38:42,827 --> 00:38:46,947
Speaker 3: Warrior has gone with two? Why? I'm not sure exactly.

714
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Speaker 3: You have the captain that the captains? Then did you

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Speaker 3: pick another player? We'll have one captain and three vice captains. Madness.

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Speaker 3: Just pick someone and stick to it. Couldn't agree more. Michael,

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Speaker 3: take a break, come back with more after this.

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Speaker 8: The Scoop from the track Field.

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Speaker 1: Another on your home of Sports Weekend Sporting.

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Speaker 3: Sex Away from New Sport and we're the one o'clock

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Speaker 3: here on News talk Z be coming up after one

722
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Speaker 3: o'clock we're going to get into streaming and sports streaming.

723
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Speaker 3: Design making moves across the Tasman. They've sneered Foxtel, subject

724
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Speaker 3: to commercial approval by the equivalent of the Commerce Commission

725
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Speaker 3: over in Australia, So what does this mean for the

726
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Speaker 3: New Zealand market and sports streaming as a whole. Design

727
00:39:38,347 --> 00:39:41,987
Speaker 3: has been very aggressive in the best use of the

728
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Speaker 3: term and buying up sports rights around the globe. They

729
00:39:44,907 --> 00:39:47,467
Speaker 3: started as a boxing service and they've multiplied since then

730
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Speaker 3: combat sports. You can get the Champions League here in

731
00:39:50,267 --> 00:39:52,547
Speaker 3: New Zealand. They now own the world ride rights to

732
00:39:52,787 --> 00:39:56,227
Speaker 3: NFL Game Pass. They seem like they're on a mission

733
00:39:57,147 --> 00:39:59,947
Speaker 3: to own sports streaming, So what does that mean for

734
00:40:00,067 --> 00:40:02,307
Speaker 3: us in New Zealand? Where are they at with their

735
00:40:02,387 --> 00:40:05,267
Speaker 3: plans for New Zealand. Plenty to dig into will be

736
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Speaker 3: joined by Alfi Sharma and from Dezonne after one o'clock

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Speaker 3: and the News Sport and whether Adam Peacock could joined

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Speaker 3: us as well to check in on all things Australagan's

739
00:40:15,187 --> 00:40:17,867
Speaker 3: sport as well. It's been another busy week for Australian sports.

740
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Speaker 3: Sam kerr In particularly getting cleared but what does that

741
00:40:20,627 --> 00:40:22,947
Speaker 3: mean for her and the Matilda's We'll dig himTo that

742
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Speaker 3: with Adam after one o'clock and more of your calls

743
00:40:26,347 --> 00:40:30,907
Speaker 3: and Texas well, Crusaders fans. After two Kyle Preston joins

744
00:40:30,907 --> 00:40:33,747
Speaker 3: the program. How good was he and how confident are

745
00:40:33,787 --> 00:40:36,707
Speaker 3: you that this might be a better year for the Crusaders.

746
00:40:36,707 --> 00:40:39,987
Speaker 3: Crusaders fans feel free to get it now and text

747
00:40:40,027 --> 00:40:43,187
Speaker 3: us nine two nine to two. Things looking up for

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Speaker 3: Rob Penny's men in season twenty twenty five. Cracking game

749
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Speaker 3: last night both at seven oh five and the one

750
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Speaker 3: across the Tasman as well. If that is what Super

751
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Speaker 3: Rugby is going to deliver this year, I think we're

752
00:40:54,707 --> 00:40:57,307
Speaker 3: in for a great competition. Lloyd says this. Though rugby

753
00:40:57,387 --> 00:40:59,867
Speaker 3: is dead in New Zealand, far too few people care.

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00:40:59,867 --> 00:41:02,147
Speaker 3: In fact, I can't believe your program is commercially viable

755
00:41:02,187 --> 00:41:07,747
Speaker 3: these days, Lloyd, Still commercially viable. Rugby is still everyone's

756
00:41:07,787 --> 00:41:10,027
Speaker 3: taking a knock at it, but it's still the top

757
00:41:10,067 --> 00:41:12,547
Speaker 3: sport in the land. Nothing quite gets the phone lines

758
00:41:12,587 --> 00:41:14,747
Speaker 3: going like a rugby issue. Appreciate the text, tho Lloyd.

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Speaker 3: More of your calls and texts after this n eighty

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Speaker 3: ten eighty. But we've got your sports news and with.

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Speaker 1: The next the only place to discuss the biggest sports

762
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Speaker 1: issues on and after fields. It's all on Weeke and

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Speaker 1: sport on your homeless sport on News Talk MB.

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Speaker 9: What are we going.

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Speaker 3: Seven after one weekend sport on News Talk z'd be

766
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Speaker 3: This is the old first out plenty to get stuck

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Speaker 3: into with Mark Robinson. Last out. We move on, we

768
00:41:52,147 --> 00:41:55,587
Speaker 3: move forward and we talk about a streaming sport shortly.

769
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Speaker 3: Might have seen over the summer break that design I

770
00:41:59,347 --> 00:42:01,467
Speaker 3: think of it. They sneaked it in just before Christmas

771
00:42:02,267 --> 00:42:07,227
Speaker 3: that they're buying Foxtowel across the Tamsman still got to

772
00:42:07,227 --> 00:42:11,507
Speaker 3: go through the Commerce Commission or the equivalent of across

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Speaker 3: the Ditch. But does that signal they're serious about a

774
00:42:14,307 --> 00:42:17,987
Speaker 3: play in the wider Oceania market? What have they got

775
00:42:18,027 --> 00:42:21,627
Speaker 3: in mind for New Zealand and streaming sports? If you're

776
00:42:21,707 --> 00:42:26,307
Speaker 3: unfamiliar design streaming platform, it's like a Netflix or a

777
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Speaker 3: Disney Plus or a Prime Video. But they're based out

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Speaker 3: of the UK. They've been big in boxing for a

779
00:42:34,027 --> 00:42:37,427
Speaker 3: few years now, then took on combat sports are now

780
00:42:37,787 --> 00:42:42,627
Speaker 3: their reach? Excuse the pun from combat sports has gone global,

781
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Speaker 3: so what do they want out of the New Zealand market.

782
00:42:44,627 --> 00:42:48,227
Speaker 3: Will be joined by Design's Alfie Sharman in just a

783
00:42:48,307 --> 00:42:50,587
Speaker 3: few moments time. We'll head across the Tasman as well

784
00:42:50,627 --> 00:42:54,547
Speaker 3: Adam Peacock to join the program as he always does

785
00:42:54,987 --> 00:42:58,227
Speaker 3: on a Saturday afternoon, to get some thoughts on the

786
00:42:58,267 --> 00:43:02,387
Speaker 3: world of sport from an Australian perspective. The Sam Kerr

787
00:43:02,427 --> 00:43:06,707
Speaker 3: issue comes to a conclusion. One of the old Test

788
00:43:06,747 --> 00:43:11,027
Speaker 3: bowlers reported for a suspect action and is this the

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00:43:11,147 --> 00:43:16,827
Speaker 3: year of the warrita. Adam Peacock joins the program before

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Speaker 3: two o'clock Crusaders fans, maybe even Wellington Rugby fans, although

791
00:43:22,507 --> 00:43:24,387
Speaker 3: he might be a bit divided after last night. Kyle

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Speaker 3: Preston's going to join us after two hat trick herro

793
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Speaker 3: for the Crusaders. Why did he turn down the Hurricanes

794
00:43:33,067 --> 00:43:35,347
Speaker 3: and end up at the Crusaders. We'll put that to

795
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Speaker 3: Kyle Preston after two o'clock, take you to Adelaide as well,

796
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Speaker 3: with livgolf plenty to come as we roll on on

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Speaker 3: Weekend Sport nine after one, we're Design making moves in

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Speaker 3: the world of sports and sneering Foxtowl subject to approval

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Speaker 3: across the Tasman. If you're unfamiliar with Design d a

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Speaker 3: z N streaming service on the rise, they've had a

801
00:43:57,467 --> 00:44:00,867
Speaker 3: few New Zealand fights. Joseph Parker has been on the

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00:44:00,907 --> 00:44:04,107
Speaker 3: Design platform David Kneecap as well. That's what they were

803
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Speaker 3: known for initially, but now spreading their wings a lot wider.

804
00:44:07,227 --> 00:44:09,947
Speaker 3: If you wait for Champions League fans, where you find

805
00:44:09,947 --> 00:44:12,467
Speaker 3: Dezone in New Zealand. I was having a look at

806
00:44:12,627 --> 00:44:15,787
Speaker 3: what else they've got. They've got Padel. I think they've

807
00:44:15,787 --> 00:44:19,547
Speaker 3: got very low level, lower level English football. I think

808
00:44:19,587 --> 00:44:22,387
Speaker 3: the National League you can watch that on there. You

809
00:44:22,467 --> 00:44:27,347
Speaker 3: weigh for Champions League certainly is the big prize they've got,

810
00:44:27,387 --> 00:44:30,827
Speaker 3: as well as the NFL Game Pass system, but it's

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Speaker 3: another one of the streamers that are looking to change

812
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Speaker 3: the way that we watch sport around the globe. Netflix

813
00:44:38,947 --> 00:44:42,347
Speaker 3: scrabbed a couple of NFL games over the Christmas period,

814
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Speaker 3: Prime videos making moves with Premier League Football in the

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Speaker 3: UK and Champions League and everything like that. It seems

816
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Speaker 3: like dezigone have big plans right around the globe. So

817
00:44:51,667 --> 00:44:54,867
Speaker 3: what do they have planned for New Zealand. We're joined

818
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Speaker 3: by their vice president of marketing out of London, Alfie Sharman,

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Speaker 3: joins us on Week in Sport ILF. We thanks so

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Speaker 3: much for your time.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's great to be here, Thanks for taking time.

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00:45:04,827 --> 00:45:06,907
Speaker 10: Sport never sleeps, but no, it's good to be speaking

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Speaker 10: to Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, it's a fast moving world, isn't it. The world

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Speaker 3: of sport, In the world of streaming, sport, as you

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Speaker 3: well know and look to Zone has making some real

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Speaker 3: imprints on this part of the world where we are

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Speaker 3: in New Zealand's has been established obviously in the UK

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Speaker 3: for some time. Where do you see the world of

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00:45:24,507 --> 00:45:27,067
Speaker 3: sport and streaming at the moment, Because it seems like

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Speaker 3: every day I wake up and see there's a new service,

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Speaker 3: or there's a new acquisition, or some sports moving somewhere.

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Speaker 3: It must be hard to keep up.

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Speaker 8: Well, yeah, look it is.

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Speaker 10: I think, first and foremost, I'd say it's an exciting

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Speaker 10: time for sport.

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Speaker 8: There's obviously always been an abundance of sport.

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Speaker 10: I mean you could argue there's certainly been surgences of say,

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Speaker 10: you know vert Comma's new sports. I mean things like

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Speaker 10: Padle for example, which we have on our platform. Is

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Speaker 10: vastly becoming one of the most popular sports. A lot

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Speaker 10: of my friend's colleagues. I'm sure you're the same player,

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Speaker 10: but it's a good time. And you know, I think

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Speaker 10: for us at the zone we've been, we've worked very hard.

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Speaker 10: We've been a business for over a decade now and obviously,

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Speaker 10: you know, had lots of aggressive growth.

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Speaker 8: Plans and you know, we're in over two hundred territories.

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Speaker 10: So for us, it's good for us to have been

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Speaker 10: at the start of that wave because we've we've we've

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Speaker 10: learned a lot over over the last decade, good and bad,

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Speaker 10: and we've optimized very quickly. So you know, I think,

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Speaker 10: I think given the fact that consumers are wanting more sport,

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Speaker 10: there is more sport out there to be had, and

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Speaker 10: then services like ours, where we see ourselves very much

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Speaker 10: as the you know, as the forefront of sports streaming

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Speaker 10: and have been.

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Speaker 8: For many years now.

858
00:46:43,267 --> 00:46:46,147
Speaker 10: It allows us the space to be creative and innovate

859
00:46:46,587 --> 00:46:50,307
Speaker 10: and most importantly take on more rights, which obviously bolsters

860
00:46:50,307 --> 00:46:53,187
Speaker 10: out our platform and our service and ultimately keeps our

861
00:46:53,227 --> 00:46:55,147
Speaker 10: subscribers happy, which is our number one priority.

862
00:46:55,507 --> 00:46:58,347
Speaker 3: What are the trends that you're seeing around the globe

863
00:46:58,347 --> 00:47:01,347
Speaker 3: in terms of that consumption you mentioned people wanting more sport.

864
00:47:02,627 --> 00:47:04,347
Speaker 3: It is it just a matter of whatever you can

865
00:47:04,387 --> 00:47:07,627
Speaker 3: get your hands on, people will watch, and you know

866
00:47:07,707 --> 00:47:09,587
Speaker 3: what's the trigger for each market?

867
00:47:10,827 --> 00:47:13,387
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, look, we take a lot of time

868
00:47:13,467 --> 00:47:16,627
Speaker 10: to observe the marketplace. As I mentioned, we're active in

869
00:47:16,907 --> 00:47:20,227
Speaker 10: over two hundred territories. We analyze the data, the trends,

870
00:47:20,227 --> 00:47:22,547
Speaker 10: We have people on boots on the ground, as we say,

871
00:47:22,587 --> 00:47:25,547
Speaker 10: in lots of those territories who are our kind of

872
00:47:26,587 --> 00:47:30,787
Speaker 10: you know, our our voices and and and give us insights,

873
00:47:30,827 --> 00:47:35,627
Speaker 10: give us obviously research various you know, various tools to

874
00:47:35,747 --> 00:47:38,787
Speaker 10: understand the consumer because it is different, you know, you

875
00:47:38,867 --> 00:47:41,387
Speaker 10: know often when we're talking about certainly in Europe, we're

876
00:47:41,427 --> 00:47:44,267
Speaker 10: talking about New Zealand and Australia for example, two very

877
00:47:44,267 --> 00:47:47,707
Speaker 10: different markets. You know, different people, different cultures, very close,

878
00:47:47,787 --> 00:47:51,547
Speaker 10: but you know it's different. It's you know, different behaviors

879
00:47:51,547 --> 00:47:55,387
Speaker 10: and we we adapt to those. But yeah, look, I

880
00:47:55,387 --> 00:47:58,507
Speaker 10: think I think for us, you know, the last the

881
00:47:58,587 --> 00:48:02,587
Speaker 10: last ten years has taught us that people will try

882
00:48:02,627 --> 00:48:06,147
Speaker 10: anything if you're a sports fan and there's competition and

883
00:48:06,147 --> 00:48:10,187
Speaker 10: the quality people will engage in obviously competitive price and

884
00:48:10,947 --> 00:48:13,307
Speaker 10: the quality of the broadcast and the production, which we

885
00:48:13,747 --> 00:48:17,787
Speaker 10: really pride ourselves in in innovating as well, you can

886
00:48:17,827 --> 00:48:20,667
Speaker 10: make anything work. We've obviously got a load of Tier

887
00:48:20,747 --> 00:48:23,627
Speaker 10: one sports on our platform, domestic football, boxing, which is

888
00:48:23,627 --> 00:48:26,947
Speaker 10: a big part of my role at the Zonne Multi

889
00:48:27,147 --> 00:48:31,227
Speaker 10: multi Sports, and yeah, I think if there's somebody out

890
00:48:31,267 --> 00:48:37,147
Speaker 10: there willing to watch, we're willing to entertain the opportunity

891
00:48:37,147 --> 00:48:38,267
Speaker 10: to have it on our platform.

892
00:48:38,507 --> 00:48:41,427
Speaker 3: What's your outlook for the Australia New Zealand market in

893
00:48:41,587 --> 00:48:43,587
Speaker 3: terms of sport and sport consumption. There are a couple

894
00:48:43,667 --> 00:48:45,667
Speaker 3: of big players and there are certain things obviously you

895
00:48:45,667 --> 00:48:47,947
Speaker 3: can't say because you're in a process around Foxtail at

896
00:48:47,987 --> 00:48:51,867
Speaker 3: the moment, But what's your outlook for this combined market? Obviously,

897
00:48:52,187 --> 00:48:53,947
Speaker 3: as you say, it's separate, but in many ways it's

898
00:48:53,987 --> 00:48:56,467
Speaker 3: also a combined market Australia and New Zealand.

899
00:48:56,547 --> 00:48:57,667
Speaker 8: Sure, yeah it is.

900
00:48:57,787 --> 00:49:00,387
Speaker 10: Yeah, Yeah, I think it's important that I make clear

901
00:49:00,427 --> 00:49:03,547
Speaker 10: that we are we're acknowledging that they're very you know,

902
00:49:03,547 --> 00:49:06,227
Speaker 10: they're different cultures, different people, you know, you know, I

903
00:49:06,427 --> 00:49:08,267
Speaker 10: people in my team were us fortunate to work people

904
00:49:08,267 --> 00:49:10,347
Speaker 10: from you know, from both from both places.

905
00:49:10,387 --> 00:49:12,587
Speaker 8: And they constantly remind me that two different territories.

906
00:49:12,627 --> 00:49:14,867
Speaker 10: But as you say, you know, there are overlaps similar

907
00:49:14,947 --> 00:49:20,307
Speaker 10: to England and Ireland for example, UK and Ireland. But yeah,

908
00:49:20,347 --> 00:49:22,907
Speaker 10: the trend that we're seeing is that there is a

909
00:49:22,987 --> 00:49:26,787
Speaker 10: first for sport in the territory. That's that's no new news,

910
00:49:27,827 --> 00:49:30,627
Speaker 10: there's a there's a first to explore new sport as

911
00:49:30,667 --> 00:49:35,307
Speaker 10: well as what we've seen with a lot of our properties. Obviously,

912
00:49:35,347 --> 00:49:38,587
Speaker 10: you guys have your have your favorite sports as we

913
00:49:38,667 --> 00:49:40,707
Speaker 10: do over in the UK, as as our friends over

914
00:49:40,747 --> 00:49:42,947
Speaker 10: in the States do, and every territory all over the

915
00:49:42,987 --> 00:49:46,227
Speaker 10: world has different different kind of top three, shall we say.

916
00:49:46,587 --> 00:49:48,227
Speaker 10: But the trend that i'd see for the market is

917
00:49:48,267 --> 00:49:51,747
Speaker 10: that there is a real appetite for for more. But

918
00:49:51,947 --> 00:49:55,067
Speaker 10: on top of that, there is a demand for better

919
00:49:55,147 --> 00:49:59,627
Speaker 10: quality and just taking a sports right and sticking it

920
00:49:59,667 --> 00:50:00,787
Speaker 10: on the screen is not enough.

921
00:50:01,187 --> 00:50:02,227
Speaker 8: You need to consider the.

922
00:50:03,667 --> 00:50:06,907
Speaker 10: You know, the the conuct consumption, the behavior, how people

923
00:50:06,947 --> 00:50:09,467
Speaker 10: watch it, whether it's on demand, whether it's on the

924
00:50:09,467 --> 00:50:11,947
Speaker 10: big screen, whether it's on the move, on the way

925
00:50:12,027 --> 00:50:15,027
Speaker 10: to and from work, highlights, live, non live, et cetera.

926
00:50:16,387 --> 00:50:19,067
Speaker 10: And Australia, New Zealand in particular is no is no

927
00:50:19,147 --> 00:50:21,867
Speaker 10: different and it's a really exciting time for us actually

928
00:50:21,907 --> 00:50:26,147
Speaker 10: at the moment to observe those those trends and as

929
00:50:26,187 --> 00:50:28,427
Speaker 10: I say, to optimize our platform to make sure that

930
00:50:28,507 --> 00:50:31,907
Speaker 10: we're quentioning the first of the market, but fundamentally deliver it,

931
00:50:31,987 --> 00:50:34,707
Speaker 10: not trying to over complicate sport. That's the one thing

932
00:50:34,707 --> 00:50:39,307
Speaker 10: that we really make clear internally not to do, because

933
00:50:39,347 --> 00:50:41,427
Speaker 10: you know, sport is not a new thing, of course,

934
00:50:41,507 --> 00:50:44,987
Speaker 10: and people consuming sport is not a new thing. You

935
00:50:45,027 --> 00:50:48,787
Speaker 10: need to finally balance how to innovate and to keep

936
00:50:48,827 --> 00:50:53,267
Speaker 10: things fresh without over complicating the beauty of the simplicity

937
00:50:53,267 --> 00:50:53,667
Speaker 10: of sport.

938
00:50:53,987 --> 00:50:56,787
Speaker 3: I think, do you see New Zealand as a growth market?

939
00:50:56,827 --> 00:50:59,027
Speaker 3: Obviously we're quite a small country, but is that an

940
00:50:59,067 --> 00:51:01,347
Speaker 3: area where you do see the potential for growth. You've

941
00:51:01,347 --> 00:51:03,427
Speaker 3: got some sports, You've got Champions League on the platform

942
00:51:03,427 --> 00:51:04,747
Speaker 3: at the moment, a few others as well. Do you

943
00:51:04,787 --> 00:51:07,227
Speaker 3: see that an area where you can get some growth?

944
00:51:08,067 --> 00:51:08,267
Speaker 2: Yeah?

945
00:51:08,307 --> 00:51:10,067
Speaker 10: I mean it literally is we define it as a

946
00:51:10,067 --> 00:51:12,507
Speaker 10: growth market. It's called a growth market within the zone.

947
00:51:12,867 --> 00:51:16,787
Speaker 10: Along with a collection of fifteen others that we have

948
00:51:16,867 --> 00:51:19,147
Speaker 10: really focused our efforts on in the last three years.

949
00:51:19,187 --> 00:51:21,947
Speaker 10: And really really focused in the last twelve months, in

950
00:51:21,987 --> 00:51:26,747
Speaker 10: particular we diversifying our right portfolio the promoters in my

951
00:51:26,827 --> 00:51:29,547
Speaker 10: world of boxing, in particular Tasman for example.

952
00:51:29,547 --> 00:51:31,587
Speaker 8: We've got fantastic relationship with those guys.

953
00:51:32,387 --> 00:51:35,907
Speaker 10: Lots of fighters who we've signed directly to work with us,

954
00:51:37,147 --> 00:51:39,147
Speaker 10: you know, and as well as as well as soccer

955
00:51:39,227 --> 00:51:41,747
Speaker 10: football you know, which we try call football over here,

956
00:51:42,787 --> 00:51:46,307
Speaker 10: you know, which which obviously brings in huge, huge audiences

957
00:51:46,467 --> 00:51:49,507
Speaker 10: our major pay per view events. But yeah, it's a

958
00:51:49,547 --> 00:51:52,387
Speaker 10: growth territory and there's you know, I think one thing

959
00:51:52,427 --> 00:51:54,747
Speaker 10: we are seeing is that there's a loyalty to sport.

960
00:51:54,907 --> 00:51:57,467
Speaker 10: There is an appetite to watch, you know, with the

961
00:51:57,507 --> 00:52:01,467
Speaker 10: time differences. That isn't a barrier for a lot of people.

962
00:52:01,547 --> 00:52:03,387
Speaker 10: Some people it is, and we're able, you know, we

963
00:52:03,427 --> 00:52:07,107
Speaker 10: adapt to our platform to ensure that you guys and

964
00:52:07,627 --> 00:52:09,787
Speaker 10: wherever people may be in the world, are able to

965
00:52:09,867 --> 00:52:13,547
Speaker 10: enjoy it with the same level of quality and energy

966
00:52:13,707 --> 00:52:17,627
Speaker 10: as anyone else watching live. But yeah, growth for us

967
00:52:18,067 --> 00:52:20,507
Speaker 10: comes in many ways, and that is by adding more rights,

968
00:52:20,547 --> 00:52:24,427
Speaker 10: that is, by innovating the platform and ultimately trying to

969
00:52:24,547 --> 00:52:27,547
Speaker 10: drive more people to our service and essentially grow our

970
00:52:27,587 --> 00:52:29,027
Speaker 10: subscriber base, which is my job.

971
00:52:29,387 --> 00:52:31,787
Speaker 3: There are so many players now out there in the market,

972
00:52:31,827 --> 00:52:33,587
Speaker 3: and you know, what's the difference do you think between

973
00:52:33,707 --> 00:52:35,987
Speaker 3: saying Netflix, which has a couple of NFL games, and

974
00:52:35,987 --> 00:52:39,027
Speaker 3: then obviously the entertainment package versus Design which is very

975
00:52:39,107 --> 00:52:43,307
Speaker 3: much concentrated solely on sport. And how do you differentiate

976
00:52:43,347 --> 00:52:45,907
Speaker 3: between the two, I suppose in terms of targeting rights

977
00:52:45,947 --> 00:52:49,627
Speaker 3: and various approaches to getting consumers on board.

978
00:52:50,587 --> 00:52:53,947
Speaker 10: Yeah, well, look, I think fundamentally, what we do, we

979
00:52:54,027 --> 00:52:55,867
Speaker 10: do it every day of the week. You know, we

980
00:52:55,947 --> 00:52:59,947
Speaker 10: have at times up to fullty live events simultaneous on

981
00:52:59,947 --> 00:53:01,147
Speaker 10: our platform well over the world.

982
00:53:01,267 --> 00:53:03,947
Speaker 8: Nobody has ever done that, let alone doing it right now.

983
00:53:04,827 --> 00:53:07,747
Speaker 10: You know you've mentioned that Flicks there obviously, you know

984
00:53:07,787 --> 00:53:10,987
Speaker 10: it's we see it as a real positive that a

985
00:53:11,027 --> 00:53:14,147
Speaker 10: business of that size and that scale are starting to

986
00:53:14,227 --> 00:53:18,347
Speaker 10: delve into into live sport, because it demonstrates that there's

987
00:53:18,347 --> 00:53:20,147
Speaker 10: an opportunity for them to make money. You know, this

988
00:53:20,227 --> 00:53:23,667
Speaker 10: is a commercial venture. Of course, we're providing a service,

989
00:53:23,707 --> 00:53:25,627
Speaker 10: and we're very proud to make sure that that service

990
00:53:25,707 --> 00:53:29,987
Speaker 10: is accessible primarily but available to as many people as

991
00:53:29,987 --> 00:53:37,707
Speaker 10: possible at fair pricing, but at a more at frequent regularity, right,

992
00:53:38,227 --> 00:53:41,027
Speaker 10: And I think the different fundamental difference between us and

993
00:53:41,467 --> 00:53:44,027
Speaker 10: say Netflix for example, and other platforms is the fact

994
00:53:44,027 --> 00:53:46,187
Speaker 10: that we do it day in, day out, in over

995
00:53:46,227 --> 00:53:50,787
Speaker 10: two hundred territories. But yeah, when it comes to rights acquisition,

996
00:53:51,707 --> 00:53:53,387
Speaker 10: you know, some of the examples of the guys that

997
00:53:53,387 --> 00:53:55,827
Speaker 10: you've given there, they will dip their toe into what

998
00:53:55,867 --> 00:53:58,107
Speaker 10: you'd consider to be one off major shows.

999
00:53:58,147 --> 00:53:59,907
Speaker 8: If you look at J Paul Mike Tyson as a

1000
00:53:59,907 --> 00:54:01,107
Speaker 8: prime example for boxing.

1001
00:54:01,147 --> 00:54:03,627
Speaker 10: As you can imagine, Eliet, I've been asked this a

1002
00:54:03,667 --> 00:54:06,347
Speaker 10: lot over the last six months, you know what, I've

1003
00:54:06,427 --> 00:54:08,707
Speaker 10: viewers of that, and I say the same thing every

1004
00:54:08,707 --> 00:54:10,587
Speaker 10: time as what I just said to you. We take

1005
00:54:10,627 --> 00:54:12,147
Speaker 10: it as a compliment. We've been doing this for a

1006
00:54:12,187 --> 00:54:16,427
Speaker 10: long time and we consider certainly boxing to be you know,

1007
00:54:16,467 --> 00:54:21,227
Speaker 10: we are the undisputed global home of boxing, and the

1008
00:54:21,267 --> 00:54:24,387
Speaker 10: fact that other people are participating in it is a

1009
00:54:24,387 --> 00:54:27,267
Speaker 10: sure sign that we're doing something right that people can

1010
00:54:27,427 --> 00:54:29,987
Speaker 10: identify it as an opportunity to engage audiences and talk

1011
00:54:30,027 --> 00:54:33,467
Speaker 10: to people in a relevant way. So long may it

1012
00:54:33,507 --> 00:54:36,187
Speaker 10: continue to be Frankly with you, this.

1013
00:54:36,227 --> 00:54:37,907
Speaker 3: Is probably like picking a lot of numbers, but where

1014
00:54:37,907 --> 00:54:41,067
Speaker 3: do you see sports streaming, sports rights going over the

1015
00:54:41,107 --> 00:54:42,307
Speaker 3: next five to ten years.

1016
00:54:44,547 --> 00:54:47,627
Speaker 8: I think it's going to become the norm, if not already.

1017
00:54:49,627 --> 00:54:49,787
Speaker 2: You know.

1018
00:54:49,787 --> 00:54:50,427
Speaker 8: Don't get me wrong.

1019
00:54:50,467 --> 00:54:56,307
Speaker 10: I'm obviously a sports fan and consume whilst at work,

1020
00:54:56,387 --> 00:54:59,827
Speaker 10: but also in my own time, much to the annoyance

1021
00:54:59,867 --> 00:55:02,627
Speaker 10: of my family, are consume a lot of sport. I

1022
00:55:02,667 --> 00:55:06,947
Speaker 10: think certainly, our our approach to how people look human sport,

1023
00:55:08,347 --> 00:55:09,147
Speaker 10: it's going to become.

1024
00:55:09,707 --> 00:55:11,307
Speaker 8: It's going to become the norm.

1025
00:55:11,667 --> 00:55:14,747
Speaker 10: Our objective is for that norm to be realized on

1026
00:55:14,787 --> 00:55:19,107
Speaker 10: the zone. We have a very ambitious plans to become

1027
00:55:20,587 --> 00:55:23,667
Speaker 10: the sports destination for sports fans all over the world.

1028
00:55:24,667 --> 00:55:27,787
Speaker 10: You know, that's a very bulshy, bold claim. It's going

1029
00:55:27,867 --> 00:55:30,667
Speaker 10: to you know, we're taking strides every day getting closer.

1030
00:55:30,707 --> 00:55:32,627
Speaker 10: List There lots of work to do, but you know,

1031
00:55:32,747 --> 00:55:35,467
Speaker 10: testament to our growth in ten years. You know, I'm

1032
00:55:35,467 --> 00:55:37,667
Speaker 10: confident that we will get there. But look, I think

1033
00:55:37,707 --> 00:55:39,827
Speaker 10: the next ten years it's an exciting time. I mean,

1034
00:55:39,987 --> 00:55:43,827
Speaker 10: we're I like to think what we're doing is you know,

1035
00:55:43,907 --> 00:55:47,747
Speaker 10: extremely innovative. Lots of people are obviously following our footsteps

1036
00:55:47,787 --> 00:55:50,947
Speaker 10: of what we do, but we are always looking to

1037
00:55:50,987 --> 00:55:54,387
Speaker 10: the next thing. And I think you know, if you

1038
00:55:54,507 --> 00:55:57,947
Speaker 10: if you even consider things viewing experiences like watch parties,

1039
00:55:57,947 --> 00:55:59,427
Speaker 10: for example, people like you and I, if we were

1040
00:55:59,467 --> 00:56:01,467
Speaker 10: to be talking about what a watch party is maybe

1041
00:56:01,507 --> 00:56:04,347
Speaker 10: eight years ago, people be like, why would anybody? Why

1042
00:56:04,347 --> 00:56:06,547
Speaker 10: would anybody do that? I would anybody care about that?

1043
00:56:06,747 --> 00:56:08,907
Speaker 10: And now you look at businesses like Twitch for example,

1044
00:56:08,947 --> 00:56:14,467
Speaker 10: which are huge, globally recognized successful businesses which are fundamentally

1045
00:56:14,907 --> 00:56:18,467
Speaker 10: built around that simple concept. So I think there's lots

1046
00:56:18,507 --> 00:56:21,787
Speaker 10: of exciting iterations to come off of OTT sports streaming

1047
00:56:22,187 --> 00:56:26,387
Speaker 10: beyond just the viewing experience, and I'm very proud that

1048
00:56:26,387 --> 00:56:28,067
Speaker 10: de Zonne are very much at the nucleus for that.

1049
00:56:28,427 --> 00:56:30,947
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a fascinating time to be in the sports business,

1050
00:56:30,947 --> 00:56:32,467
Speaker 3: that is for sure. Elfie, thank you so much for

1051
00:56:32,507 --> 00:56:36,027
Speaker 3: your time. Appreciated and yet we'll keep in touches things developed,

1052
00:56:36,027 --> 00:56:36,387
Speaker 3: I'm sure.

1053
00:56:37,187 --> 00:56:38,267
Speaker 8: Cheers Ellioms great talk to you.

1054
00:56:38,827 --> 00:56:41,107
Speaker 3: Likewise, Elfie, thanks very much of your time. Alfie Shaman,

1055
00:56:41,307 --> 00:56:45,067
Speaker 3: the vice president of marketing at Design, joining us from

1056
00:56:45,107 --> 00:56:48,747
Speaker 3: London to talk about their plans for the New Zealand market.

1057
00:56:48,747 --> 00:56:50,587
Speaker 3: He was pretty up front they do have plans at

1058
00:56:50,587 --> 00:56:54,147
Speaker 3: growth market. He called New Zealand. So another sports streaming

1059
00:56:54,427 --> 00:56:58,267
Speaker 3: company targeting New Zealand. They have been operating here for

1060
00:56:58,787 --> 00:57:00,867
Speaker 3: what maybe three or four years, maybe a bit longer

1061
00:57:00,947 --> 00:57:04,027
Speaker 3: than that, with a bit of boxing in combat sports.

1062
00:57:04,027 --> 00:57:06,307
Speaker 3: They took another leap when they got the Champions Lead

1063
00:57:06,827 --> 00:57:10,627
Speaker 3: on their platform for this season. I think it was

1064
00:57:10,707 --> 00:57:14,467
Speaker 3: for the first time. Doesn't seem like they're going to

1065
00:57:14,467 --> 00:57:16,987
Speaker 3: slow down in terms of trying to wedge into the

1066
00:57:17,027 --> 00:57:20,307
Speaker 3: New Zealand market. So it's another streaming service that if

1067
00:57:20,347 --> 00:57:23,627
Speaker 3: you're a sports fan, an all round sports fan, you're

1068
00:57:23,667 --> 00:57:26,387
Speaker 3: going to have to look at. We've had been into

1069
00:57:26,427 --> 00:57:30,347
Speaker 3: the market. They're still around, although they've got nothing as

1070
00:57:30,347 --> 00:57:32,267
Speaker 3: big as they used to have with the Premier League

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00:57:32,267 --> 00:57:35,107
Speaker 3: and the Champions League, but they've still got the Scottish League.

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Speaker 3: I think the La Liga is on there, maybe the

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00:57:37,627 --> 00:57:40,787
Speaker 3: Bundesliga as well. They've got a number of sports. We've

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00:57:40,827 --> 00:57:45,267
Speaker 3: had Spark Sport of course come in then closed down

1075
00:57:45,507 --> 00:57:48,147
Speaker 3: in New Zealand. There's been others that have sort of

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00:57:48,187 --> 00:57:52,787
Speaker 3: periphery rights and sports on their platforms. How are you

1077
00:57:52,867 --> 00:57:55,267
Speaker 3: handling it as a sports fan? Are you eager to

1078
00:57:55,307 --> 00:57:59,187
Speaker 3: sign up for these sports services or is it just

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00:57:59,227 --> 00:58:02,907
Speaker 3: a little bit too much. Have you gone full streaming

1080
00:58:04,147 --> 00:58:09,067
Speaker 3: with your watching of sport or are you're still on

1081
00:58:09,147 --> 00:58:13,107
Speaker 3: that Sky decoder or watching in a different manner. What's

1082
00:58:13,107 --> 00:58:16,427
Speaker 3: your preference of watching sport and has it changed maybe

1083
00:58:16,787 --> 00:58:21,947
Speaker 3: over the last few years. Have you adopted streaming more

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00:58:21,947 --> 00:58:24,467
Speaker 3: so than maybe five years ago, because it's certainly the

1085
00:58:24,507 --> 00:58:27,427
Speaker 3: way the market is hitting oh, eight hundred and eighty

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00:58:27,467 --> 00:58:30,267
Speaker 3: ten eighty nine two ninety two for a text message,

1087
00:58:30,307 --> 00:58:32,947
Speaker 3: Do you have a preference for the way that you

1088
00:58:33,027 --> 00:58:37,987
Speaker 3: watch sport? Thinking about the way that I now consume sport.

1089
00:58:38,307 --> 00:58:41,547
Speaker 3: I've got a Sky Sport now a subscription, don't have

1090
00:58:41,587 --> 00:58:45,627
Speaker 3: the decoder, So any sport that I watch on Sky's

1091
00:58:45,707 --> 00:58:50,067
Speaker 3: channels is via streaming TVNZ. Plus they've got to live

1092
00:58:50,107 --> 00:58:53,267
Speaker 3: golf now, they've got a number of other sports, the

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00:58:53,267 --> 00:58:57,107
Speaker 3: Black Caps, et cetera. I watch through that manner. I

1094
00:58:57,107 --> 00:59:00,987
Speaker 3: don't have anything hardwired into the TV. Have you become

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00:59:01,027 --> 00:59:03,507
Speaker 3: a bit like me? Are you all streaming now? You're

1096
00:59:03,507 --> 00:59:04,067
Speaker 3: holding back?

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00:59:05,707 --> 00:59:05,827
Speaker 9: Then?

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00:59:05,827 --> 00:59:07,907
Speaker 3: I jumped on Zone the other day and watch the

1099
00:59:07,947 --> 00:59:11,107
Speaker 3: Super Bowl on there. I think it was ninety nine

1100
00:59:11,147 --> 00:59:14,307
Speaker 3: cents for the privilege, and you get the US broadcast.

1101
00:59:14,387 --> 00:59:17,867
Speaker 3: You had Tom Brady on the Fox Network and all

1102
00:59:17,907 --> 00:59:22,267
Speaker 3: the American ads and half of Hollywood starring in it.

1103
00:59:22,267 --> 00:59:25,147
Speaker 3: It was a unique experience itself, but it's spread so

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00:59:25,267 --> 00:59:30,547
Speaker 3: much thinner than it was ten fifteen years ago. What's

1105
00:59:30,547 --> 00:59:32,827
Speaker 3: your preference of watching sport? Oh eight hundred eighty ten

1106
00:59:32,867 --> 00:59:38,467
Speaker 3: eighty nine two nine two for a text message, Shawan says,

1107
00:59:38,467 --> 00:59:39,907
Speaker 3: that's the only sky that I can access at the

1108
00:59:39,947 --> 00:59:41,667
Speaker 3: moment is through my app, so I might as well

1109
00:59:42,547 --> 00:59:44,827
Speaker 3: be streaming the sky Go app. I think it is.

1110
00:59:48,827 --> 00:59:52,187
Speaker 3: What's your preference? Is the Internet good enough to be

1111
00:59:52,227 --> 00:59:56,027
Speaker 3: able to stream widely? Are we still lagging behind? Like

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00:59:56,067 --> 00:59:59,067
Speaker 3: those laggy ads that we see during every sports event

1113
00:59:59,107 --> 01:00:01,627
Speaker 3: where you think the sport's coming back and it's actually

1114
01:00:01,627 --> 01:00:05,467
Speaker 3: an ad for Coorus. I'm so sick of those ads.

1115
01:00:05,507 --> 01:00:07,267
Speaker 3: But where are you at with streaming sport? Oh one

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01:00:07,307 --> 01:00:09,587
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty teen eighty nine two nine two for

1117
01:00:09,747 --> 01:00:14,267
Speaker 3: a text message this afternoon? It certainly seems to be

1118
01:00:14,307 --> 01:00:17,987
Speaker 3: the way of the future, a wave of now, but

1119
01:00:18,027 --> 01:00:23,867
Speaker 3: there are issues with it. The Zone though very ambitious.

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Speaker 3: You heard Alfie there talk about their plans snapping up Foxtail.

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01:00:27,747 --> 01:00:30,627
Speaker 3: Couldn't talk too much about that, but once they're in

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01:00:30,987 --> 01:00:34,907
Speaker 3: market properly in Australia owning Foxtel, and they'll probably rebadge

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Speaker 3: it and rename it. I'm sure they'll cast and I

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01:00:39,467 --> 01:00:44,627
Speaker 3: over here and go, well, there's money to be made

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Speaker 3: from New Zealand. It's got to alistair afternoon. How are

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01:00:49,827 --> 01:00:51,027
Speaker 3: you today, I'm good? How are you?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 11: I saw in Skott for fifteen years and you know,

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01:00:57,107 --> 01:01:00,227
Speaker 11: obviously we you know, I had a you know, mainly

1130
01:01:00,347 --> 01:01:03,627
Speaker 11: the people that would sort of you know, you know

1131
01:01:04,387 --> 01:01:08,467
Speaker 11: when we used to sign people up as you know,

1132
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Speaker 11: they used to you know, basically you know, the only

1133
01:01:12,467 --> 01:01:15,947
Speaker 11: thing they really wanted was mainly the rugby and a

1134
01:01:15,947 --> 01:01:18,107
Speaker 11: little bit of cricket. It's been with all the students

1135
01:01:18,107 --> 01:01:21,467
Speaker 11: and teed and sort of thing. But it'll be interesting

1136
01:01:21,507 --> 01:01:25,707
Speaker 11: to see, you know, how these streaming services are going

1137
01:01:25,787 --> 01:01:27,947
Speaker 11: to make him money. That's what I think.

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Speaker 3: That's the question I have. There's only so much to

1139
01:01:31,987 --> 01:01:33,667
Speaker 3: the meat sport and so many hours in the day,

1140
01:01:33,707 --> 01:01:35,507
Speaker 3: isn't there in so many eyeballs to watch it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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01:01:36,787 --> 01:01:39,147
Speaker 11: I mean look at Spark I think you mentioned before

1143
01:01:39,427 --> 01:01:43,227
Speaker 11: they well they paid twenty five millis season one hundred

1144
01:01:43,267 --> 01:01:48,027
Speaker 11: and twenty five over five years. As far as I'm aware,

1145
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Speaker 11: But how are they going to make him you know,

1146
01:01:51,067 --> 01:01:53,787
Speaker 11: how is it going to work? Like, yeah, obviously if

1147
01:01:53,787 --> 01:01:59,307
Speaker 11: they you know, especially Sky when they had basically every

1148
01:01:59,347 --> 01:02:06,467
Speaker 11: single decent sporting service. Yeah, but yeah, yeah.

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01:02:06,067 --> 01:02:08,067
Speaker 3: It's it has been harder and harder. You spread so

1150
01:02:08,147 --> 01:02:11,667
Speaker 3: thinly around the place at the moment with various streaming

1151
01:02:11,707 --> 01:02:14,427
Speaker 3: services that ultimately there's going to have to be some

1152
01:02:14,467 --> 01:02:17,467
Speaker 3: amalgamation you would think, or someone buying out someone else

1153
01:02:17,907 --> 01:02:19,627
Speaker 3: over the next few years to make them viable.

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Speaker 11: It's just I mean, people prepared to pay, you know,

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01:02:25,947 --> 01:02:29,667
Speaker 11: maybe it might work if they charged per game or

1156
01:02:29,667 --> 01:02:32,307
Speaker 11: something like that, or because I mean what it's sparked

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Speaker 11: with twenty five.

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01:02:33,067 --> 01:02:33,627
Speaker 3: Bucks a month.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, roughly, yeah, roughly, And I mean you know, and

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01:02:38,627 --> 01:02:41,067
Speaker 11: so you know, if you're a big sports fan, you're

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Speaker 11: like cricket, rugby and everything else, it's you know, it's

1162
01:02:44,547 --> 01:02:48,067
Speaker 11: a big cost, you know, and they've got to have

1163
01:02:48,707 --> 01:02:53,347
Speaker 11: to return money out of their investments. And obviously I

1164
01:02:53,347 --> 01:02:56,067
Speaker 11: think you mentioned being sports and didn't they go broke

1165
01:02:56,147 --> 01:02:58,707
Speaker 11: as well? They run out of money or they just

1166
01:02:58,747 --> 01:03:00,947
Speaker 11: didn't get enough people describing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they lost the Premier League here for

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01:03:02,987 --> 01:03:06,427
Speaker 3: a Berts and I think they're still in market, but

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01:03:06,467 --> 01:03:08,387
Speaker 3: I don't know what exactly they've got. I think they

1170
01:03:08,387 --> 01:03:10,187
Speaker 3: have the Scottish football in Spanish.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, they took the football off sky or a

1172
01:03:13,267 --> 01:03:17,427
Speaker 11: number of that to eleven or something like that. But

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Speaker 11: I mean the main thing with people we used to

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01:03:20,187 --> 01:03:24,147
Speaker 11: sell to were the cricket fans and the rugby fans,

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Speaker 11: and that's don't all bring me and go I want

1176
01:03:26,507 --> 01:03:28,307
Speaker 11: your deal because we to do it half price for

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01:03:28,347 --> 01:03:31,667
Speaker 11: a long time. So yeah, it's quite interesting. You know,

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Speaker 11: we got it the people pretty cheap. I mean we

1179
01:03:35,587 --> 01:03:37,587
Speaker 11: were selling at forty bucks a month for all the

1180
01:03:37,627 --> 01:03:39,787
Speaker 11: students in Dunsan for years.

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Speaker 3: It's not a bad deal, especially on student rates.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for a whole.

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Speaker 11: Year they had, you know, so it'll be interesting. Yeah,

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01:03:47,507 --> 01:03:50,867
Speaker 11: but they all they all basically how we lost out

1185
01:03:50,867 --> 01:03:54,467
Speaker 11: in that they all decided to get their home Sky home.

1186
01:03:55,427 --> 01:03:57,547
Speaker 11: I go and take it home and take it back.

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Speaker 3: To the leach off the pearance.

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01:04:01,147 --> 01:04:01,347
Speaker 4: Does.

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Speaker 11: I mean, I'll be you know, I know hundreds of

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01:04:04,507 --> 01:04:09,387
Speaker 11: people that are using Skoy going it's from ther parents account.

1191
01:04:09,547 --> 01:04:12,427
Speaker 3: Yeah, their parents are paying for it, not the students.

1192
01:04:12,427 --> 01:04:14,587
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Alison nice to chat with you

1193
01:04:14,627 --> 01:04:16,587
Speaker 3: this afternoon. Oh one hundred and eighty and eighty nine

1194
01:04:16,627 --> 01:04:19,547
Speaker 3: two ninety two for a text message. We're talking sports streaming,

1195
01:04:20,307 --> 01:04:21,947
Speaker 3: The Zone joining us at the top of the hour,

1196
01:04:22,067 --> 01:04:24,867
Speaker 3: talking about their plans for the New Zealand market and

1197
01:04:24,867 --> 01:04:27,627
Speaker 3: where they go to from here. Afternoon, Rachel, how are

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01:04:27,707 --> 01:04:28,907
Speaker 3: you hi?

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Speaker 12: Good?

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Speaker 13: Thanks?

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01:04:30,027 --> 01:04:32,307
Speaker 3: Yeah? Great? Thank you? Where are you at with your streaming?

1202
01:04:32,347 --> 01:04:33,587
Speaker 3: How many services have you got?

1203
01:04:34,427 --> 01:04:34,627
Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 13: It gets a bit out of control, doesn't it. And

1205
01:04:36,547 --> 01:04:39,307
Speaker 13: I think it's cast your mind back to the nineties

1206
01:04:39,347 --> 01:04:41,507
Speaker 13: and the early two thousands. Is the one moned about

1207
01:04:41,547 --> 01:04:44,067
Speaker 13: sky and the costs. But here we are now, and

1208
01:04:44,707 --> 01:04:48,427
Speaker 13: if you are like me and you like tons of sports,

1209
01:04:48,027 --> 01:04:52,147
Speaker 13: you really feel it in the pocket each month. I

1210
01:04:52,267 --> 01:04:54,787
Speaker 13: just I prefer just to have it all on one spot,

1211
01:04:54,867 --> 01:04:57,347
Speaker 13: one fee. I know what I'm getting, I can watch

1212
01:04:57,427 --> 01:04:59,827
Speaker 13: what I want, when I want, how I want, and

1213
01:04:59,867 --> 01:05:01,987
Speaker 13: it's just so much simpler. And I've had a couple

1214
01:05:01,987 --> 01:05:06,147
Speaker 13: of experiences with the Zones. The first event I watched

1215
01:05:06,147 --> 01:05:08,667
Speaker 13: for about till three years ago, and you've got a

1216
01:05:08,707 --> 01:05:11,467
Speaker 13: seven day sign up free trial and then you paid

1217
01:05:11,467 --> 01:05:14,627
Speaker 13: for the event. And then subsequent events that I've bought,

1218
01:05:14,667 --> 01:05:17,547
Speaker 13: like boxing matches and whatnot, you then have to pay

1219
01:05:17,547 --> 01:05:19,467
Speaker 13: the monthly subscription as well.

1220
01:05:19,267 --> 01:05:20,067
Speaker 3: As the event be.

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01:05:21,747 --> 01:05:25,147
Speaker 13: So again, yeah, there was one just recently, about two

1222
01:05:25,147 --> 01:05:27,747
Speaker 13: months ago that I decided just not to bother because

1223
01:05:27,747 --> 01:05:29,307
Speaker 13: it was going to end up being about fifty or

1224
01:05:29,347 --> 01:05:32,587
Speaker 13: sixty dollars for a New Zealand boxer and I was like,

1225
01:05:32,667 --> 01:05:35,987
Speaker 13: now that's about the gate. But yeah, by the time

1226
01:05:35,987 --> 01:05:38,147
Speaker 13: I do my Sky Arena for the usc PA per

1227
01:05:38,227 --> 01:05:41,107
Speaker 13: views and all these different bits and pieces, and then

1228
01:05:41,147 --> 01:05:44,507
Speaker 13: you've got your knee ons, your Netflix Prime all this stuff,

1229
01:05:44,547 --> 01:05:47,067
Speaker 13: it's just just I want to go back to SID.

1230
01:05:47,667 --> 01:05:50,227
Speaker 3: I agree. There's been so many subscriptions, isn't there that

1231
01:05:50,387 --> 01:05:52,667
Speaker 3: it's hard to keep up, and you know, you want

1232
01:05:52,707 --> 01:05:54,467
Speaker 3: to watch everything, but there is so many only so

1233
01:05:54,507 --> 01:05:56,707
Speaker 3: many hours in the day that you can devote to

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01:05:56,787 --> 01:06:01,587
Speaker 3: to watching, whether it's sport or entertainment, to streaming entertaining

1235
01:06:01,707 --> 01:06:03,707
Speaker 3: movies or whatever it might be. There's only so many

1236
01:06:03,707 --> 01:06:04,707
Speaker 3: hours in the day. Rachel.

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01:06:05,427 --> 01:06:07,627
Speaker 13: Yeah, Well, like I don't don't go out much anymore,

1238
01:06:07,667 --> 01:06:10,587
Speaker 13: so for me, it's my it's my downtime. It's me

1239
01:06:10,747 --> 01:06:13,347
Speaker 13: time to go to bed, or I have some friends

1240
01:06:13,347 --> 01:06:15,747
Speaker 13: around for lunch or dinner, a barbecue and somemon. We

1241
01:06:15,867 --> 01:06:18,867
Speaker 13: watched Sport and do the whole Sunday thing with USC

1242
01:06:19,147 --> 01:06:21,747
Speaker 13: and it's a good time and that's the social aspect

1243
01:06:21,747 --> 01:06:24,907
Speaker 13: of it for me. And then I just like the sports.

1244
01:06:24,947 --> 01:06:27,707
Speaker 13: But yeah, Sky's not too bad. I'm paying about eight

1245
01:06:27,747 --> 01:06:31,787
Speaker 13: dollars a month for Sport and my Sky recorder Dakoda,

1246
01:06:32,907 --> 01:06:35,147
Speaker 13: so that's fine. But yeah, just once you start to

1247
01:06:35,147 --> 01:06:37,347
Speaker 13: get into you got to go over there to watch

1248
01:06:37,387 --> 01:06:39,227
Speaker 13: the Premier League. You've got to go over there to

1249
01:06:39,307 --> 01:06:41,827
Speaker 13: watch cricket. You've got to go over there. And so

1250
01:06:41,907 --> 01:06:44,387
Speaker 13: I just don't engage in some of those fringe sports.

1251
01:06:44,507 --> 01:06:46,787
Speaker 13: If they were all in one place under my existing

1252
01:06:46,867 --> 01:06:50,107
Speaker 13: Sky subscription, I absolutely would watch them, but I'm not

1253
01:06:50,107 --> 01:06:52,987
Speaker 13: going to pay extra on a different platform. So they

1254
01:06:53,027 --> 01:06:55,187
Speaker 13: missed my eyes on the screen, if you know what

1255
01:06:55,227 --> 01:06:55,507
Speaker 13: I mean.

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01:06:55,587 --> 01:06:57,627
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, And there are sports that you know, we're

1257
01:06:57,667 --> 01:07:00,907
Speaker 3: desperate to get in front and get in get into

1258
01:07:00,947 --> 01:07:04,827
Speaker 3: those platforms. But when they can't, that's when they, you know,

1259
01:07:04,947 --> 01:07:07,827
Speaker 3: the people watching it miss out and also the sports themselves.

1260
01:07:08,747 --> 01:07:12,947
Speaker 13: Yeah, so I like guy. I prefer the old model.

1261
01:07:13,027 --> 01:07:14,987
Speaker 13: It was just it was simple, it was easy, it

1262
01:07:15,027 --> 01:07:18,427
Speaker 13: was easy to understand, easy to watch and yeah, just

1263
01:07:18,547 --> 01:07:20,907
Speaker 13: take me back to the nineties and the early two thousands.

1264
01:07:20,907 --> 01:07:22,947
Speaker 3: Please, Yeah, I'm with you, rightchil. Nice to hear from

1265
01:07:22,947 --> 01:07:24,747
Speaker 3: you this afternoon. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty

1266
01:07:24,827 --> 01:07:27,467
Speaker 3: nine two for a text message, thanks for your call

1267
01:07:28,067 --> 01:07:30,707
Speaker 3: this afternoon. There is something about having that decoda and

1268
01:07:30,747 --> 01:07:33,867
Speaker 3: the remote in the palm of your hands on a

1269
01:07:33,907 --> 01:07:37,787
Speaker 3: busy sporting night. Say there's some Super Rugby on NRL,

1270
01:07:37,827 --> 01:07:40,787
Speaker 3: maybe a cricket game from overseas, but I'm maybe a

1271
01:07:40,827 --> 01:07:43,547
Speaker 3: bit of tennis or something like that. If one qualifying

1272
01:07:43,587 --> 01:07:46,867
Speaker 3: and just being able to ride that remote all night long,

1273
01:07:46,947 --> 01:07:50,187
Speaker 3: go up, go down, and consume a little bit here

1274
01:07:50,227 --> 01:07:54,227
Speaker 3: and there for the entire evening. Harder to switch on streaming.

1275
01:07:54,907 --> 01:07:57,507
Speaker 3: You park up and watch a Super Rugby game. You

1276
01:07:57,547 --> 01:08:00,507
Speaker 3: want to check what's happening in the NRL. You got

1277
01:08:00,547 --> 01:08:04,267
Speaker 3: to go into the app select. It takes about ten

1278
01:08:04,307 --> 01:08:08,227
Speaker 3: seconds to buffer check a score it's a blowout, or

1279
01:08:08,227 --> 01:08:10,707
Speaker 3: go back to the Super Rugby game. It's about a

1280
01:08:10,707 --> 01:08:12,427
Speaker 3: minute wasted. You can just flick up and down. There

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Speaker 3: is something to be said. They'll improve it. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: over time they'll make it easier to switch between channels

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01:08:19,307 --> 01:08:21,827
Speaker 3: and streamings as streams and various things like that, But

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01:08:21,827 --> 01:08:24,747
Speaker 3: for now it's a bit of a nuisance. Plenty of

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01:08:24,827 --> 01:08:26,627
Speaker 3: text on this metal. It's ripped to a few before

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01:08:26,667 --> 01:08:32,027
Speaker 3: the break. Let's go. The struggle with streaming is you

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01:08:32,067 --> 01:08:35,827
Speaker 3: can't record the program. That's an interesting point I hadn't

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01:08:36,107 --> 01:08:38,147
Speaker 3: heard from. They retain the highlights for a bit and

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01:08:38,147 --> 01:08:40,987
Speaker 3: you can go and watch some Six Nations highlights or

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01:08:40,987 --> 01:08:43,067
Speaker 3: Premier League highlights in the morning. You can't record it

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01:08:43,067 --> 01:08:48,067
Speaker 3: and keep it. I recall it one of my old places.

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01:08:48,107 --> 01:08:51,667
Speaker 3: We had the twenty fifteen Cricket World Cup semi final,

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01:08:53,147 --> 01:08:56,307
Speaker 3: the Black Caps run chase on the Dakoda for ah,

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01:08:56,587 --> 01:08:59,267
Speaker 3: I reckon a good I think until about the end

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01:08:59,267 --> 01:09:05,347
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty one we had that, and periodically, especially

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01:09:05,467 --> 01:09:09,107
Speaker 3: during COVID park up and watch Grand Outli gets innings,

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01:09:09,267 --> 01:09:12,307
Speaker 3: Danie Vittori's four we were retaining that for about six years.

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01:09:12,347 --> 01:09:15,307
Speaker 3: Very very good point. You can't record the program on streaming.

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Speaker 3: One more before the break, John says, the sky Sky

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01:09:18,587 --> 01:09:21,187
Speaker 3: Sky all day long, record whatever. Don't have to worry

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01:09:21,187 --> 01:09:23,387
Speaker 3: about endless ad streamers come and go. Look at the

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01:09:23,387 --> 01:09:26,987
Speaker 3: company that had the Gulf in spark Sky so convenient.

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01:09:27,107 --> 01:09:30,907
Speaker 3: Cheers John, every music skies as I'm sure more of

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01:09:30,907 --> 01:09:32,747
Speaker 3: your text and calls after the break. Twenty five away

1305
01:09:32,747 --> 01:09:36,227
Speaker 3: from two News TALKSBB you be the TMO.

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01:09:36,467 --> 01:09:38,867
Speaker 1: Have yours say on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with GJ. Guggos, New Zealand's most trusted home builder, News.

1308
01:09:44,187 --> 01:09:48,547
Speaker 3: Talks NB twenty two away from two on News Talks ZBB.

1309
01:09:49,107 --> 01:09:53,027
Speaker 3: Plenty of text messages on this topic. It is variety

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01:09:53,147 --> 01:09:55,427
Speaker 3: opinion opinions. I think it's fair to say. On the

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01:09:55,667 --> 01:10:00,187
Speaker 3: streaming experience, Chris says this to Cooder is still the

1312
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Speaker 3: best viewing experience. The picture clarity and smoothness is just

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01:10:02,907 --> 01:10:05,107
Speaker 3: that little bit better. You notice the more when the

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01:10:05,147 --> 01:10:07,587
Speaker 3: rugby balls in the year or a fastball as being

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01:10:08,067 --> 01:10:10,347
Speaker 3: bold and cricket if it's streaming, the picture can't quite

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01:10:10,387 --> 01:10:12,707
Speaker 3: handle something moving that quickly and you don't see the

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01:10:12,707 --> 01:10:14,867
Speaker 3: ball the whole way. That's a very very good point. Actually,

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01:10:14,907 --> 01:10:19,187
Speaker 3: I know it's a motion that's on the streaming coverage

1319
01:10:19,187 --> 01:10:22,427
Speaker 3: of the way it's process, but you do occasionally lose

1320
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Speaker 3: the ball a little bit on some of those streaming

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01:10:25,227 --> 01:10:27,387
Speaker 3: services and I'm sure the quality is going to improve

1322
01:10:28,267 --> 01:10:30,227
Speaker 3: over time. I mentioned to watch the Super Bowl via

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01:10:31,907 --> 01:10:34,427
Speaker 3: NFL game Pass with nine nine cents the other day,

1324
01:10:35,147 --> 01:10:37,267
Speaker 3: and there was a fox Ball broadcast out of the US,

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01:10:37,307 --> 01:10:42,587
Speaker 3: and it was crystal clear h D from the minute

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01:10:42,627 --> 01:10:45,467
Speaker 3: I switched it on to the end of the game.

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Speaker 3: The end of the actual game, and any end of

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Speaker 3: the game was actually been about the middle of the

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01:10:49,227 --> 01:10:51,067
Speaker 3: second quarter, but the end of the game itself, it

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01:10:51,107 --> 01:10:53,227
Speaker 3: was crystal clear the entire way through an HD. So

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it'll improve over time. It's a very good

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01:10:55,307 --> 01:10:58,107
Speaker 3: point you make. Chris Rachel says loved the my Sky

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01:10:58,347 --> 01:11:03,347
Speaker 3: Dakota for recording games that clash at times. I prefer

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01:11:03,467 --> 01:11:05,187
Speaker 3: the TV, says another. But they have to get rid

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01:11:05,227 --> 01:11:07,507
Speaker 3: of the ads. This is from Ben. I can stream

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01:11:07,587 --> 01:11:10,507
Speaker 3: any sports without ads. Just get rid of the ads

1337
01:11:10,507 --> 01:11:12,427
Speaker 3: like it used to beat and I'll stick with TV.

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01:11:14,747 --> 01:11:17,227
Speaker 3: Another one. This is another cruise sis. I hate streaming

1339
01:11:17,947 --> 01:11:21,107
Speaker 3: that's in capital it is. It stopped me seeing much

1340
01:11:21,147 --> 01:11:23,307
Speaker 3: of the Rugby World Cup in Japan and the Black

1341
01:11:23,307 --> 01:11:26,067
Speaker 3: Caps cricket. I want to turn on Sky and watch

1342
01:11:26,187 --> 01:11:30,747
Speaker 3: rugby or cricket. There is something about the ease of

1343
01:11:30,787 --> 01:11:36,187
Speaker 3: having a Dakota flicking it on and knowing it's there.

1344
01:11:37,547 --> 01:11:39,267
Speaker 3: You do get a bit of rain fit occasionally, but

1345
01:11:39,347 --> 01:11:41,707
Speaker 3: by and large you can pretty much guarantee it's there.

1346
01:11:42,947 --> 01:11:45,067
Speaker 3: I think as well with the Spark sport, the Rugby

1347
01:11:45,067 --> 01:11:47,787
Speaker 3: World Cup, it's changed so much. I mean that was

1348
01:11:47,827 --> 01:11:53,507
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen and the Internet and New Zealand has improved.

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01:11:53,547 --> 01:11:56,187
Speaker 3: It had to. It was lagging behind the rest of

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01:11:56,187 --> 01:12:02,107
Speaker 3: the world. Everyone streamed a little bit more over the

1351
01:12:02,187 --> 01:12:03,787
Speaker 3: last few years are a bit more used to it.

1352
01:12:03,827 --> 01:12:06,547
Speaker 3: If Spark were to still be here, or that World

1353
01:12:06,547 --> 01:12:09,427
Speaker 3: Cup was to be streamed, I think it would probably

1354
01:12:09,987 --> 01:12:13,987
Speaker 3: infrastructure wise be handled a little bit better than that

1355
01:12:14,027 --> 01:12:18,867
Speaker 3: World Cup, just with years of experience he is being

1356
01:12:20,307 --> 01:12:25,027
Speaker 3: able to stream the internet being better. Michael sees this.

1357
01:12:25,107 --> 01:12:26,827
Speaker 3: I've got Sky to watch on my TV, I can

1358
01:12:26,867 --> 01:12:30,107
Speaker 3: record my Sports Live and tv TVNZ Plus on my

1359
01:12:30,227 --> 01:12:35,307
Speaker 3: ip iPad and Sky Sport. Now, Gary, why the hell

1360
01:12:35,347 --> 01:12:39,187
Speaker 3: do we consume our sport now and not just watch it?

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01:12:39,267 --> 01:12:45,347
Speaker 3: Corporate speak? Gary, I guess because you're a consumer maybe,

1362
01:12:48,627 --> 01:12:50,867
Speaker 3: and it's the whole conversation around the sport. You're not

1363
01:12:50,907 --> 01:12:54,507
Speaker 3: just watching it. Listening to us on the radio talk

1364
01:12:54,507 --> 01:12:59,787
Speaker 3: about it, which is consuming sport. I'll take the point though,

1365
01:12:59,787 --> 01:13:01,707
Speaker 3: I'll try and drop it from my over okay over

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01:13:01,707 --> 01:13:04,547
Speaker 3: the next week. While Gary thank you very much for

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01:13:04,747 --> 01:13:09,747
Speaker 3: the text message, and Tony with this one, Sparksport ruined

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01:13:09,827 --> 01:13:12,027
Speaker 3: international tennis viewing in New Zealand. I think Sky now

1369
01:13:12,027 --> 01:13:14,747
Speaker 3: only have the Australian and French Open on multiple channels

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01:13:14,787 --> 01:13:16,307
Speaker 3: and they screened them. Used to have all four of

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Speaker 3: majors Wimbledon and US Open one on Sky as well

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Speaker 3: until Spark out bid them. Spark now question mark, Wimbledon

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01:13:23,307 --> 01:13:30,267
Speaker 3: and US Open question mark. I think Spark was on Sorry,

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01:13:30,387 --> 01:13:35,067
Speaker 3: Wimbledon was on TV and Z. Last year US Open

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01:13:35,107 --> 01:13:38,827
Speaker 3: was on TV and Z as well, but it now

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01:13:38,867 --> 01:13:41,147
Speaker 3: certainly is split between the turn. If you're watching the

1377
01:13:41,187 --> 01:13:45,027
Speaker 3: ATP Tennis, incidentally, you've got to go through Tennis TV,

1378
01:13:45,507 --> 01:13:48,547
Speaker 3: which is another streaming platform which does exactly what it

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01:13:48,547 --> 01:13:52,627
Speaker 3: sounds like tennis streaming. But I don't think they've got

1380
01:13:52,627 --> 01:13:55,467
Speaker 3: the WTA, so you have to go to I think

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01:13:55,507 --> 01:13:59,347
Speaker 3: Design if you want to watch the WTA and Tennis

1382
01:13:59,347 --> 01:14:00,987
Speaker 3: TV if you want to watch the ATP, if you

1383
01:14:01,027 --> 01:14:02,947
Speaker 3: want to watch the Grand Slams, you gotta go to

1384
01:14:02,987 --> 01:14:07,587
Speaker 3: Sky's that's perfect example of the way that streaming has

1385
01:14:07,627 --> 01:14:10,867
Speaker 3: splintered out tennis and now if you want to watch

1386
01:14:11,867 --> 01:14:17,307
Speaker 3: all the tournaments Indian, Wells, all those other ones, you've

1387
01:14:17,307 --> 01:14:19,627
Speaker 3: got to have multiple services. A very good point. Twenty

1388
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Speaker 3: make that eighteen away from two on News Talk ZB.

1389
01:14:23,027 --> 01:14:25,267
Speaker 3: We'll head across the Tasman. Very sure that Adam Peacock,

1390
01:14:25,307 --> 01:14:27,067
Speaker 3: our Australian correspondents join us.

1391
01:14:27,787 --> 01:14:30,787
Speaker 8: It's more than just a game weekend.

1392
01:14:30,467 --> 01:14:34,587
Speaker 1: Sport with GJ Gunnomes New Zealand's most trusted home builder

1393
01:14:34,707 --> 01:14:35,627
Speaker 1: News Dog MB.

1394
01:14:37,507 --> 01:14:39,987
Speaker 3: Fifteen away from two on News Talk ZB. Still a

1395
01:14:40,027 --> 01:14:41,507
Speaker 3: couple of texts I do want to get to before

1396
01:14:41,507 --> 01:14:44,787
Speaker 3: the hour is out on the streaming issue. But we've

1397
01:14:44,787 --> 01:14:46,827
Speaker 3: got our boarding pass to go to Australia and our

1398
01:14:46,867 --> 01:14:50,067
Speaker 3: Aussie correspondent, Adam Peacock is on the line. As we

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01:14:50,107 --> 01:14:53,107
Speaker 3: do around this time every Saturday afternoon, we get across

1400
01:14:53,107 --> 01:14:58,467
Speaker 3: the ditch and say gooday to Adam Peacock, afternoon whatever.

1401
01:14:58,507 --> 01:15:02,547
Speaker 3: It is always a busy week across the Tasman. And look,

1402
01:15:02,587 --> 01:15:05,427
Speaker 3: this Sam curse story was huge, but it's now come

1403
01:15:05,467 --> 01:15:09,187
Speaker 3: to an end and a good result for Sam Kerr overall,

1404
01:15:09,267 --> 01:15:11,227
Speaker 3: isn't it yeah.

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01:15:11,347 --> 01:15:15,867
Speaker 12: I mean it's a complex issue. Everything that's happened. It's

1406
01:15:16,627 --> 01:15:19,507
Speaker 12: obviously not ideal that Sam found herself in that situation.

1407
01:15:20,147 --> 01:15:22,787
Speaker 12: Was had a big night out, a lot of opinion

1408
01:15:22,787 --> 01:15:25,907
Speaker 12: about what should happen. Now to Sam Kerr, I'm just

1409
01:15:26,147 --> 01:15:30,667
Speaker 12: kind of pleased that it's resolved itself. Wishing the wrong

1410
01:15:31,427 --> 01:15:34,147
Speaker 12: define wrong. I mean we've all gone out and had

1411
01:15:34,147 --> 01:15:36,387
Speaker 12: a big night out and you know, behaved in a

1412
01:15:36,387 --> 01:15:37,947
Speaker 12: way that you look back on and go, oh, was

1413
01:15:37,947 --> 01:15:38,507
Speaker 12: that correct?

1414
01:15:38,587 --> 01:15:39,107
Speaker 4: Was that right?

1415
01:15:39,667 --> 01:15:42,667
Speaker 12: I think looking at the whole bit of vision and

1416
01:15:42,707 --> 01:15:44,787
Speaker 12: the whole of it is available for thirty minutes, she's

1417
01:15:45,547 --> 01:15:49,427
Speaker 12: doesn't feel like she's done anything criminally wrong. So yeah,

1418
01:15:49,707 --> 01:15:52,467
Speaker 12: now everyone hopefully can get on with life. But it's

1419
01:15:52,467 --> 01:15:54,707
Speaker 12: not going to be that simple because there's now questions

1420
01:15:54,707 --> 01:15:56,787
Speaker 12: over whether or not Sho should be captain or not,

1421
01:15:56,907 --> 01:15:58,587
Speaker 12: So that remains to be saying.

1422
01:15:58,987 --> 01:16:01,827
Speaker 3: What's the public feeling in Australia Should she remain captain?

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01:16:03,387 --> 01:16:03,547
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:16:03,587 --> 01:16:05,627
Speaker 12: A lot of people think that she should just get

1425
01:16:05,667 --> 01:16:10,347
Speaker 12: on with life and it's normal, like it's how she

1426
01:16:10,427 --> 01:16:13,307
Speaker 12: was viewed before this incident. Others think that there's no way,

1427
01:16:13,467 --> 01:16:15,627
Speaker 12: well she should be a leader again. My personal view

1428
01:16:15,747 --> 01:16:19,667
Speaker 12: is that. I don't think she should be stripped of

1429
01:16:19,667 --> 01:16:22,907
Speaker 12: a captaincy. I thought a long time ago when she

1430
01:16:22,947 --> 01:16:25,267
Speaker 12: was actually made captain. I'm not sure if it's suited

1431
01:16:25,427 --> 01:16:28,227
Speaker 12: exactly what she needed in her life, if you know

1432
01:16:28,267 --> 01:16:28,587
Speaker 12: what I mean.

1433
01:16:28,667 --> 01:16:31,027
Speaker 4: She was happy to be captain. She wasn't forced into it.

1434
01:16:31,067 --> 01:16:35,507
Speaker 12: But I just think that Sam is a leader through action.

1435
01:16:35,627 --> 01:16:37,547
Speaker 12: She's a leader in the dressing room. Does she needed

1436
01:16:37,547 --> 01:16:40,427
Speaker 12: that added layer of responsibility or always take talking to

1437
01:16:40,427 --> 01:16:42,427
Speaker 12: the media and having that scrutiny.

1438
01:16:42,627 --> 01:16:44,587
Speaker 4: Probably not so. I don't know.

1439
01:16:44,707 --> 01:16:47,387
Speaker 12: It might look too convenient now to take away from

1440
01:16:47,387 --> 01:16:50,787
Speaker 12: the captaincy, but it's up to Football Australia to communicate

1441
01:16:50,787 --> 01:16:52,627
Speaker 12: it properly whatever decision they come up with, and I

1442
01:16:52,707 --> 01:16:53,427
Speaker 12: hope they do that.

1443
01:16:53,987 --> 01:16:58,067
Speaker 3: Matthew Kernerman, the Aussie spinner cited for a suspect action

1444
01:16:58,227 --> 01:17:00,987
Speaker 3: or reported I probably should say for a suspect action

1445
01:17:01,067 --> 01:17:02,587
Speaker 3: over the course of the week. It's like there's a

1446
01:17:02,587 --> 01:17:05,867
Speaker 3: prude of film watching it in slow motion. This is

1447
01:17:06,347 --> 01:17:07,907
Speaker 3: it's eve a nice when a player gets called for

1448
01:17:08,227 --> 01:17:10,907
Speaker 3: this sort of thing. What was your to take on it?

1449
01:17:11,907 --> 01:17:14,987
Speaker 12: Yes, I just can't see how he can reach the

1450
01:17:15,067 --> 01:17:17,347
Speaker 12: test match level and then something like that all of

1451
01:17:17,387 --> 01:17:19,907
Speaker 12: a sudden become an issue. Now Mattie Kernaman has had

1452
01:17:19,987 --> 01:17:24,427
Speaker 12: questions around his action before, both domestically here in Australia.

1453
01:17:24,627 --> 01:17:28,427
Speaker 12: Domestically here in Australia, I should say, obviously has jumped

1454
01:17:28,747 --> 01:17:31,147
Speaker 12: over those hurdles whatever's been put in front of him

1455
01:17:31,147 --> 01:17:33,947
Speaker 12: because he's been selected to play for Australia. I don't

1456
01:17:33,947 --> 01:17:36,507
Speaker 12: get how, all of a sudden then an umpire can

1457
01:17:36,507 --> 01:17:40,267
Speaker 12: turn around and go, oh, actually his action looks a

1458
01:17:40,267 --> 01:17:43,147
Speaker 12: bit dodgy, and now this whole cloud comes over his

1459
01:17:43,307 --> 01:17:44,227
Speaker 12: entire career again.

1460
01:17:44,547 --> 01:17:46,267
Speaker 4: I think he's grossly unfair personally.

1461
01:17:46,307 --> 01:17:48,027
Speaker 12: There's got to be better ways of dealing with this

1462
01:17:48,307 --> 01:17:50,307
Speaker 12: in the lead up to becoming a Test cricketer, rather

1463
01:17:50,387 --> 01:17:51,947
Speaker 12: than getting on that stage and then all of a

1464
01:17:51,987 --> 01:17:54,867
Speaker 12: sudden his action being called into question by one of

1465
01:17:54,907 --> 01:17:57,667
Speaker 12: the on field umpires. So now he's got to go

1466
01:17:57,707 --> 01:18:01,027
Speaker 12: through this whole rigmarole of proving that he doesn't chuck

1467
01:18:01,067 --> 01:18:03,947
Speaker 12: the ball by the letter of the law and by

1468
01:18:03,987 --> 01:18:06,707
Speaker 12: the angle of his arm and all of that. Yeah,

1469
01:18:07,107 --> 01:18:10,187
Speaker 12: it's a head scratcher administration wise that it can get

1470
01:18:10,227 --> 01:18:12,187
Speaker 12: to that. But that's what Maddy Kuernerman has got to

1471
01:18:12,227 --> 01:18:13,867
Speaker 12: go through now to prove that.

1472
01:18:13,827 --> 01:18:14,827
Speaker 4: He doesn't chuck.

1473
01:18:15,427 --> 01:18:17,107
Speaker 3: It's one of those things. And I remember the Darrell

1474
01:18:17,147 --> 01:18:19,787
Speaker 3: here one with whinn he Noboard, Merley Duran and the

1475
01:18:20,627 --> 01:18:22,987
Speaker 3: mid nineties. That was huge at the time and it's

1476
01:18:23,027 --> 01:18:25,187
Speaker 3: a story that still resonates. What about thirty years on.

1477
01:18:26,387 --> 01:18:28,187
Speaker 12: Yeah, because that happened in the middle of a Test

1478
01:18:28,227 --> 01:18:30,027
Speaker 12: match and he kept on no balling him instead of

1479
01:18:30,027 --> 01:18:32,827
Speaker 12: giving him warnings. Instead it felt like a surprise attack

1480
01:18:32,867 --> 01:18:35,867
Speaker 12: on him, which was grossly unfair at that time as well,

1481
01:18:36,227 --> 01:18:38,187
Speaker 12: that was himurely that he was a very young player

1482
01:18:38,187 --> 01:18:40,107
Speaker 12: at that time went on to have an amazing career,

1483
01:18:40,187 --> 01:18:43,387
Speaker 12: so it was obviously all okay how he was bowling,

1484
01:18:43,467 --> 01:18:46,867
Speaker 12: but seriously that was a circus that just did not

1485
01:18:46,947 --> 01:18:50,227
Speaker 12: need to happen. And hopefully Matt Kerneman can avoid similar sight.

1486
01:18:50,307 --> 01:18:53,187
Speaker 3: And look Super Rugby underway as of last night, the

1487
01:18:53,227 --> 01:18:55,907
Speaker 3: warattas get to win over the Highlanders. It might be

1488
01:18:55,987 --> 01:19:00,867
Speaker 3: the year. It might be Australia's year in super rugby. Finally, yeah, one.

1489
01:19:00,707 --> 01:19:04,947
Speaker 12: Night, So let's all calmed down and they're not the

1490
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Speaker 12: Blues and they're not the chief the Highlanders, with.

1491
01:19:07,427 --> 01:19:09,507
Speaker 4: All due respect to them, A bit of a buzz.

1492
01:19:09,387 --> 01:19:12,547
Speaker 12: About got to say about rugby starting again over here,

1493
01:19:12,587 --> 01:19:15,987
Speaker 12: and I think that is sw Lee coming in Joseph

1494
01:19:15,987 --> 01:19:20,387
Speaker 12: becauso Lee. So the fact that he started as a

1495
01:19:20,427 --> 01:19:24,307
Speaker 12: wires Are and played okay by all four reports, both

1496
01:19:24,587 --> 01:19:27,227
Speaker 12: very good judges, not just people like me who watch

1497
01:19:27,267 --> 01:19:32,427
Speaker 12: it occasionally. So yeah, it's it's good that rugby's back well,

1498
01:19:32,547 --> 01:19:36,547
Speaker 12: not on like firmly in the spotlight, but getting a

1499
01:19:36,587 --> 01:19:39,387
Speaker 12: bit of a say over here. And the back end

1500
01:19:39,427 --> 01:19:41,787
Speaker 12: of last year with the spread tours certainly helped. Having

1501
01:19:41,827 --> 01:19:44,387
Speaker 12: a British and Irish Lions folded into a World Cup

1502
01:19:44,427 --> 01:19:48,147
Speaker 12: campaign not too far away. That'll help, and so will

1503
01:19:48,787 --> 01:19:52,187
Speaker 12: our super rugby clubs going Okay that the Brumbies will

1504
01:19:52,187 --> 01:19:55,427
Speaker 12: be the benchmark again I think for Australia. But having

1505
01:19:55,427 --> 01:19:59,907
Speaker 12: all these Melbourne Rebels players having that club dissolved and

1506
01:19:59,947 --> 01:20:02,987
Speaker 12: then those players good ones filtering back into the other

1507
01:20:03,507 --> 01:20:07,387
Speaker 12: other clubs and their systems has strengthened. So hopefully that

1508
01:20:07,507 --> 01:20:10,547
Speaker 12: does strength in Australia's cause on this stage against some

1509
01:20:10,587 --> 01:20:10,787
Speaker 12: of you.

1510
01:20:10,907 --> 01:20:13,587
Speaker 3: But I was at the Super Rugby launch in Sydney

1511
01:20:13,587 --> 01:20:15,507
Speaker 3: for it for a day last week. Joseph su elite

1512
01:20:15,547 --> 01:20:18,027
Speaker 3: you would have reeled off. I think about twelve interviews

1513
01:20:18,427 --> 01:20:21,467
Speaker 3: in a space about three hours. He's twenty one years old,

1514
01:20:21,467 --> 01:20:23,787
Speaker 3: but he has a professionalism of a thirty year old.

1515
01:20:23,907 --> 01:20:25,627
Speaker 3: I think he's going to be good for rugby in Australia.

1516
01:20:26,347 --> 01:20:27,747
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a pretty level headed kid.

1517
01:20:28,707 --> 01:20:31,107
Speaker 12: He's got his head screitched on, which is good and

1518
01:20:31,187 --> 01:20:34,987
Speaker 12: rugby needs that needs good players first and foremost, but

1519
01:20:35,107 --> 01:20:36,667
Speaker 12: good people as well, and a lot of them are

1520
01:20:36,867 --> 01:20:40,147
Speaker 12: like a stack of the rugby boys are just good humans.

1521
01:20:40,187 --> 01:20:44,307
Speaker 12: And Joseph because I certainly certainly fits that Bill and

1522
01:20:44,747 --> 01:20:46,667
Speaker 12: I just you just want him to have a clear

1523
01:20:46,747 --> 01:20:49,987
Speaker 12: runway health wise. And all the good players here from

1524
01:20:49,987 --> 01:20:53,147
Speaker 12: Australia because we don't have that layer of depth that

1525
01:20:53,227 --> 01:20:56,667
Speaker 12: I reckon you require to consistently get results on the

1526
01:20:56,707 --> 01:20:58,107
Speaker 12: international stage against the.

1527
01:20:58,147 --> 01:20:58,907
Speaker 2: Very good sides.

1528
01:20:59,347 --> 01:21:02,827
Speaker 12: But that's what this competition is meant to build, and

1529
01:21:03,027 --> 01:21:05,187
Speaker 12: hopefully it can continue to go in the right direction,

1530
01:21:05,227 --> 01:21:07,547
Speaker 12: because it feels like it is last couple of years indeed.

1531
01:21:07,547 --> 01:21:09,467
Speaker 3: Well, Adam Peacock, thank you very much for your time,

1532
01:21:09,507 --> 01:21:11,027
Speaker 3: wish you the best luck and we'll catch up again

1533
01:21:11,027 --> 01:21:14,867
Speaker 3: next weekend. That's goods mate, Adam Peacock. Joining ours, says

1534
01:21:14,907 --> 01:21:17,387
Speaker 3: he always does around this time on a Saturday afternoon,

1535
01:21:17,427 --> 01:21:20,507
Speaker 3: talking all things Australian and sport, and no shortage of

1536
01:21:20,587 --> 01:21:23,547
Speaker 3: topics to get stuck into, that is for sure with

1537
01:21:23,947 --> 01:21:27,907
Speaker 3: Adam this week that's Samka things. Of course, plenty of

1538
01:21:27,947 --> 01:21:30,107
Speaker 3: interest on both sides of the Tasman here and in

1539
01:21:30,147 --> 01:21:33,107
Speaker 3: the UK. We're reading a whole range of perspectives on

1540
01:21:33,867 --> 01:21:37,627
Speaker 3: that matter. But ultimately, you know, probably good for her

1541
01:21:37,667 --> 01:21:40,027
Speaker 3: just to focus on the football and she's very very

1542
01:21:40,027 --> 01:21:42,947
Speaker 3: good at doing that. It is coming up seven away

1543
01:21:42,987 --> 01:21:44,027
Speaker 3: from two News TALKSZB.

1544
01:21:45,227 --> 01:21:47,507
Speaker 1: When it's down to the line, you made a call

1545
01:21:47,667 --> 01:21:51,707
Speaker 1: on eight hundred eighty ten eighty weekend Sport News Talks EBB.

1546
01:21:52,867 --> 01:21:56,027
Speaker 3: Coming out four away from two on News Talk ZIBB

1547
01:21:56,307 --> 01:21:58,107
Speaker 3: a text and saying I used the TV and Z

1548
01:21:58,227 --> 01:21:59,707
Speaker 3: that for the first time in a long time as

1549
01:21:59,747 --> 01:22:01,707
Speaker 3: I can as long as I can remember to watch

1550
01:22:01,747 --> 01:22:04,507
Speaker 3: the live stream of the Adelaide Live golf tournament yesterday

1551
01:22:04,547 --> 01:22:06,947
Speaker 3: and loved it. Certainly opened me to looking to other

1552
01:22:06,987 --> 01:22:09,027
Speaker 3: shows on the platform. I think if Free Do We

1553
01:22:09,187 --> 01:22:10,987
Speaker 3: is going to survive, it does need to be picking

1554
01:22:11,067 --> 01:22:13,827
Speaker 3: up major sports again. Well done TV and Z. Sorry Sky,

1555
01:22:13,867 --> 01:22:15,347
Speaker 3: but you are now the one at risk if you

1556
01:22:15,387 --> 01:22:19,667
Speaker 3: don't improve your offering. I did hear that the PGA

1557
01:22:19,987 --> 01:22:22,267
Speaker 3: was sort of telling broadcasters that had their rights not

1558
01:22:22,307 --> 01:22:24,947
Speaker 3: to pick up lives. So I suppose it's separate here

1559
01:22:24,987 --> 01:22:27,587
Speaker 3: in New Zealand. We'll go to Live and Adelaide next

1560
01:22:27,587 --> 01:22:30,307
Speaker 3: hour on the program. Kyle Preston hat Trick Hero on

1561
01:22:30,387 --> 01:22:32,987
Speaker 3: the program as well, and Andrew Howard Blue CEO joins

1562
01:22:33,067 --> 01:22:34,707
Speaker 3: us as well. Newsport Weather next.

1563
01:22:35,467 --> 01:22:39,747
Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues,

1564
01:22:40,427 --> 01:22:45,947
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

1565
01:22:46,027 --> 01:22:48,987
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport on your home of Sport.

1566
01:22:49,707 --> 01:22:50,667
Speaker 8: News Talk said be.

1567
01:22:54,427 --> 01:22:57,707
Speaker 3: Welcome back in Weekend Sports six and a half. After

1568
01:22:57,787 --> 01:23:01,067
Speaker 3: two final hour of the show, Alligant Smith and for

1569
01:23:01,187 --> 01:23:06,347
Speaker 3: Jason Pine, this weekend's on Weekend Sport. We've taken you

1570
01:23:06,427 --> 01:23:08,947
Speaker 3: across the tas been last year we've taken you to London.

1571
01:23:09,547 --> 01:23:12,507
Speaker 3: We'll take you back across the Tasman this hour on

1572
01:23:12,587 --> 01:23:15,747
Speaker 3: the show to Live Golf Adelaide, which looks like the

1573
01:23:15,787 --> 01:23:18,507
Speaker 3: biggest party on the globe at the moment. They are

1574
01:23:18,507 --> 01:23:23,547
Speaker 3: having so much fun at Live Golf Adelaide. I mean

1575
01:23:23,587 --> 01:23:25,867
Speaker 3: you can throw all sorts of questions about the viability

1576
01:23:25,867 --> 01:23:27,907
Speaker 3: of live golf and what it's done for the sport.

1577
01:23:27,987 --> 01:23:32,587
Speaker 3: But that's in particular. Tournament at Live Adelaide has become

1578
01:23:33,067 --> 01:23:35,787
Speaker 3: a serious event in its own I know a few

1579
01:23:35,867 --> 01:23:38,587
Speaker 3: Kiwis have gone abroad. There was a text and earlier

1580
01:23:38,627 --> 01:23:41,987
Speaker 3: from someone whose son has gone abroad, or read that

1581
01:23:42,027 --> 01:23:44,227
Speaker 3: a bit later on in the hour, but it's certainly

1582
01:23:44,267 --> 01:23:47,027
Speaker 3: a party in Adelaide. Will take you there. With Marcus Wheelhouse,

1583
01:23:47,547 --> 01:23:50,227
Speaker 3: you're forming you Zely golfer, he's own golf coach to

1584
01:23:50,347 --> 01:23:52,347
Speaker 3: join the program and give us a sense of what

1585
01:23:52,427 --> 01:23:57,907
Speaker 3: it's like at Live Adelaide. A bit more rugby to

1586
01:23:57,907 --> 01:24:01,427
Speaker 3: come this hour on the program, Kyle Preston, I mean,

1587
01:24:01,467 --> 01:24:03,267
Speaker 3: it's going to take something pretty special to knock that

1588
01:24:03,347 --> 01:24:06,267
Speaker 3: off the perch of stories from the first round of

1589
01:24:06,627 --> 01:24:10,507
Speaker 3: Super Rugby. Hat trick on debut coming off the bench

1590
01:24:10,987 --> 01:24:13,987
Speaker 3: for the Crusaders to get them a win at home

1591
01:24:14,067 --> 01:24:17,547
Speaker 3: and start off twenty twenty five on a more promising

1592
01:24:17,627 --> 01:24:21,507
Speaker 3: notes than twenty twenty four. Certainly was Kyle Preston. The

1593
01:24:21,627 --> 01:24:24,707
Speaker 3: story out of last night's victory for the Crusaders is

1594
01:24:24,747 --> 01:24:26,507
Speaker 3: going to join us in a few moments time to

1595
01:24:26,507 --> 01:24:30,187
Speaker 3: talk us through that hat trick and why he chose

1596
01:24:30,227 --> 01:24:34,627
Speaker 3: the Crusaders over his hometown Hurricanes. He'll explain more in

1597
01:24:34,667 --> 01:24:37,667
Speaker 3: a few moments time. Andrew Hall is going to join us.

1598
01:24:37,707 --> 01:24:41,827
Speaker 3: The Blues CEO they wanted to pack the park. How

1599
01:24:41,827 --> 01:24:45,107
Speaker 3: close are they to packing the park for the rematch

1600
01:24:45,147 --> 01:24:48,867
Speaker 3: of last year's final Blues and Chiefs seven five tonight.

1601
01:24:49,627 --> 01:24:51,827
Speaker 3: You can't get to the game, you can hear it

1602
01:24:51,947 --> 01:24:55,107
Speaker 3: on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio. Looking forward to the call

1603
01:24:55,147 --> 01:24:58,547
Speaker 3: of that match. Andrew hort on Super Rugby starting for

1604
01:24:58,627 --> 01:25:01,467
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five and how the Blues go about their

1605
01:25:01,547 --> 01:25:04,547
Speaker 3: title defense both on and off the park. To join

1606
01:25:04,587 --> 01:25:07,827
Speaker 3: the program before the hour is out. Plenty to get

1607
01:25:07,907 --> 01:25:11,067
Speaker 3: stuck into over the final fifty two minutes or thereabouts

1608
01:25:11,107 --> 01:25:13,987
Speaker 3: of our show here on News Talk ZBB. But as

1609
01:25:13,987 --> 01:25:18,227
Speaker 3: we do around this time Saturday and Sunday, if you've

1610
01:25:18,267 --> 01:25:22,347
Speaker 3: slept in Heaven, checked your phone, whatever it might be,

1611
01:25:22,507 --> 01:25:24,907
Speaker 3: Let's bring you up to date with everything in the

1612
01:25:24,947 --> 01:25:27,067
Speaker 3: world of sport. It's in case you missed it. Let's

1613
01:25:27,107 --> 01:25:31,347
Speaker 3: start and Jason Pine Ti retreat the Wellington Fall and

1614
01:25:31,427 --> 01:25:34,067
Speaker 3: Phoenix have fallen to a loss against the Melbourne victory

1615
01:25:34,427 --> 01:25:35,427
Speaker 3: only for gooss.

1616
01:25:35,187 --> 01:25:35,707
Speaker 2: In the box.

1617
01:25:35,987 --> 01:25:41,187
Speaker 3: Here's me gos the turf delivery and the turf to

1618
01:25:41,347 --> 01:25:46,347
Speaker 3: Tanner unbuild the victory lays. They had to be patience.

1619
01:25:47,347 --> 01:25:49,347
Speaker 3: But at the end of two of them in talks

1620
01:25:49,427 --> 01:25:53,347
Speaker 3: goodbye to give the dead batch and that one who

1621
01:25:53,387 --> 01:25:56,827
Speaker 3: loss leaves them sitting in tenth on the A League ladder.

1622
01:25:56,907 --> 01:26:00,307
Speaker 3: Let's go to Sydney. Now the Highlander is just faltering

1623
01:26:00,747 --> 01:26:03,147
Speaker 3: in the last minute against the war Atars. Let's put me.

1624
01:26:03,267 --> 01:26:04,067
Speaker 9: When you get the gay.

1625
01:26:04,387 --> 01:26:11,107
Speaker 3: The warts on the line and Amona right scored. Oh

1626
01:26:11,227 --> 01:26:14,067
Speaker 3: and look at the Wartars. They're ecstatic.

1627
01:26:15,027 --> 01:26:20,467
Speaker 14: Ana. Their rough placement tight brought scores to the right

1628
01:26:20,547 --> 01:26:22,267
Speaker 14: hand side of the uprights.

1629
01:26:22,667 --> 01:26:25,067
Speaker 3: The hand is screaming bloody murder about a knock on

1630
01:26:25,307 --> 01:26:28,187
Speaker 3: and the lead up didn't see another angle of that.

1631
01:26:28,307 --> 01:26:30,547
Speaker 3: It was a wee bobble from one of the Wartar's

1632
01:26:30,587 --> 01:26:34,387
Speaker 3: replacement props. That's why they delayed full time through Angus

1633
01:26:34,427 --> 01:26:39,547
Speaker 3: Gardner haven't seen any footage to emerge over that, but

1634
01:26:39,547 --> 01:26:42,587
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's some angle out there. Islanders fans, you

1635
01:26:42,627 --> 01:26:45,267
Speaker 3: must be pretty annoyed to lose that one against the

1636
01:26:45,307 --> 01:26:47,467
Speaker 3: Tars last night thirty seven to thirty six to the

1637
01:26:47,547 --> 01:26:50,907
Speaker 3: New South Welshman another one and the trophy cabinet for

1638
01:26:50,947 --> 01:26:53,587
Speaker 3: the black Caps wait born and that's it. News a

1639
01:26:53,627 --> 01:26:54,387
Speaker 3: little left the tri.

1640
01:26:54,387 --> 01:26:58,787
Speaker 15: Edition Trophy Hare and Karachi at the National Backstadium, a

1641
01:26:58,867 --> 01:27:03,307
Speaker 15: team that just couldn't be defeated won three out of

1642
01:27:03,347 --> 01:27:07,907
Speaker 15: three and they're rightly deservingly lift the trophy, beating Pakistan

1643
01:27:08,347 --> 01:27:12,147
Speaker 15: by five wickets and probably won't be wrong because they're

1644
01:27:12,187 --> 01:27:13,827
Speaker 15: comprehensively three departments.

1645
01:27:13,987 --> 01:27:15,987
Speaker 3: Look probably doesn't mean too much in the great scheme

1646
01:27:16,027 --> 01:27:17,867
Speaker 3: of things, but a winner is a winner's a winner.

1647
01:27:17,907 --> 01:27:20,827
Speaker 3: Trophy as a trophy, as a trophy, and most importantly

1648
01:27:20,827 --> 01:27:24,267
Speaker 3: it's momentum heading into the ICC Champions Trophy. And they

1649
01:27:24,307 --> 01:27:28,787
Speaker 3: play Pakistan again midweek in their openers. So some good

1650
01:27:28,827 --> 01:27:34,067
Speaker 3: signs for the black Caps. And finally, I couldn't believe

1651
01:27:34,107 --> 01:27:36,507
Speaker 3: this a staggering game of rugby league to open the

1652
01:27:36,507 --> 01:27:40,307
Speaker 3: Super League between Egan and Egan, between Wigan and Lee.

1653
01:27:40,747 --> 01:27:44,907
Speaker 3: The first eighty minutes. Can you believe this went scoreless?

1654
01:27:45,027 --> 01:27:48,387
Speaker 3: That's right, it was nil all heading into Golden Point.

1655
01:27:48,507 --> 01:27:49,627
Speaker 3: Then this happened.

1656
01:27:50,347 --> 01:27:53,507
Speaker 16: Try the possessions heads in place. I'm playing on the

1657
01:27:53,587 --> 01:27:54,667
Speaker 16: right foot with a truck.

1658
01:27:54,547 --> 01:27:57,387
Speaker 3: Gun believes breach of the stars.

1659
01:27:58,387 --> 01:27:59,067
Speaker 17: A moment.

1660
01:28:00,987 --> 01:28:05,227
Speaker 16: It has taken, ain't seen two minutes for the first

1661
01:28:05,307 --> 01:28:11,547
Speaker 16: points Super League season, the conti dramatic circumstances and then

1662
01:28:11,667 --> 01:28:14,067
Speaker 16: so much winning moment.

1663
01:28:16,587 --> 01:28:21,747
Speaker 3: Kicks it through the steps one nil, full time. Unbelievable.

1664
01:28:21,827 --> 01:28:23,707
Speaker 3: That was in case, mister.

1665
01:28:25,667 --> 01:28:28,267
Speaker 1: The scoots from the track field and the court on

1666
01:28:28,467 --> 01:28:33,267
Speaker 1: your home of fort Weekend Sport, you talking me well.

1667
01:28:33,227 --> 01:28:36,387
Speaker 3: Quite incredible. Last night the Crusaders opened their Super Rugby

1668
01:28:36,467 --> 01:28:39,707
Speaker 3: campaign with a win over the Hurricanes. It was a

1669
01:28:39,827 --> 01:28:43,467
Speaker 3: back and forth game between the two sides, the Hurricanes

1670
01:28:43,507 --> 01:28:45,627
Speaker 3: getting out to a fourteen they will lead, the Crusaders

1671
01:28:45,667 --> 01:28:49,587
Speaker 3: getting back to fourteen all, and then the Hurricanes get

1672
01:28:49,627 --> 01:28:52,467
Speaker 3: out twenty two to fourteen. The momentum swings their way,

1673
01:28:52,507 --> 01:28:54,707
Speaker 3: then back to the Crusaders in the second half. I

1674
01:28:54,787 --> 01:28:57,307
Speaker 3: think the Hurricanes only got three points in the second spell.

1675
01:28:57,387 --> 01:29:00,187
Speaker 3: But in all of that, the story of the game,

1676
01:29:00,707 --> 01:29:04,827
Speaker 3: apart from the Crusaders winning, has to be replacement half

1677
01:29:04,907 --> 01:29:09,227
Speaker 3: back Kyle Preston's sorry, not once, not twice, but thrice.

1678
01:29:09,787 --> 01:29:13,347
Speaker 14: Crusaderes go short side right, little wedside play shell food

1679
01:29:13,707 --> 01:29:20,347
Speaker 14: Jordan edits Kyle Preston under the posts. The Crusaders head

1680
01:29:20,427 --> 01:29:23,307
Speaker 14: back numbers, hitt of the left, Harvely little Chip and

1681
01:29:23,387 --> 01:29:25,587
Speaker 14: chase over for Jordan sits up beautifully.

1682
01:29:25,787 --> 01:29:28,707
Speaker 3: He gets a pass away to civil Race. He's quirking

1683
01:29:28,747 --> 01:29:30,867
Speaker 3: at own of the Onster twenty two. He checks her

1684
01:29:30,947 --> 01:29:35,507
Speaker 3: back at down by Priston.

1685
01:29:36,827 --> 01:29:42,107
Speaker 18: Crusades plays down Preston. He wos it guys, go Christon

1686
01:29:43,627 --> 01:29:47,747
Speaker 18: a hats for Godjapo frop the chet from the Capitol.

1687
01:29:48,307 --> 01:29:52,547
Speaker 3: Unbelievable stuff And Kyle Preston has been nice enough to

1688
01:29:52,707 --> 01:29:55,587
Speaker 3: join us this afternoon on Week in Sport the hat

1689
01:29:55,627 --> 01:29:58,507
Speaker 3: trick hero from last night. Kyle, thanks so much for

1690
01:29:58,587 --> 01:30:01,067
Speaker 3: your time with us here on news Talks. Heb not

1691
01:30:01,187 --> 01:30:03,307
Speaker 3: a problem, bad to be here. Well, last night couldn't

1692
01:30:03,307 --> 01:30:05,427
Speaker 3: have gone much better cut it for both yourself and

1693
01:30:05,507 --> 01:30:06,147
Speaker 3: the Crusaders.

1694
01:30:07,707 --> 01:30:11,827
Speaker 19: No, definitely not currently ask for anything more, to be fair,

1695
01:30:11,907 --> 01:30:17,427
Speaker 19: didn't expect anything like that, but super grateful. Kind of

1696
01:30:17,427 --> 01:30:18,467
Speaker 19: feels like a bit of a dream.

1697
01:30:18,547 --> 01:30:20,787
Speaker 3: But yeah, Kyle, what were you thinking is but I

1698
01:30:20,787 --> 01:30:23,627
Speaker 3: guess came on to the park. You probably weren't expecting

1699
01:30:23,867 --> 01:30:25,307
Speaker 3: what seventy eight minutes of game time?

1700
01:30:26,787 --> 01:30:31,627
Speaker 19: Yeah, I definitely didn't expect Sevy Odd minutes on the field,

1701
01:30:32,107 --> 01:30:36,067
Speaker 19: but yeah, I kind of saw no go down and yeah,

1702
01:30:36,107 --> 01:30:40,307
Speaker 19: I had to step up pretty quickly because yeah, there's

1703
01:30:40,347 --> 01:30:40,947
Speaker 19: neither way.

1704
01:30:41,707 --> 01:30:44,027
Speaker 3: Fourteen kneel down. I guess that wasn't the best to

1705
01:30:44,067 --> 01:30:46,027
Speaker 3: start for the Crusaders, but you managed to work the

1706
01:30:46,067 --> 01:30:48,667
Speaker 3: way work your way back into the contest. How did

1707
01:30:48,747 --> 01:30:51,987
Speaker 3: you as a side respond to that early couple of

1708
01:30:52,027 --> 01:30:52,907
Speaker 3: tries you conceded?

1709
01:30:54,587 --> 01:30:57,907
Speaker 19: Yeah, I think obviously getting two drives down early and

1710
01:30:57,987 --> 01:31:02,067
Speaker 19: then yellow card was pretty tough, but the boys responded

1711
01:31:02,107 --> 01:31:04,467
Speaker 19: pretty well. Keep grinding when you it would be a

1712
01:31:04,547 --> 01:31:06,987
Speaker 19: battle and it would take take all of us to

1713
01:31:07,027 --> 01:31:09,787
Speaker 19: do it. So the boys put them a big shift

1714
01:31:09,867 --> 01:31:10,987
Speaker 19: and yeah, I.

1715
01:31:10,987 --> 01:31:13,467
Speaker 3: Guess a confidence boost for it for the team as

1716
01:31:13,467 --> 01:31:16,467
Speaker 3: a whole. Kyle, to come from fourteen nil down at

1717
01:31:16,547 --> 01:31:18,747
Speaker 3: home get that victory to start the season.

1718
01:31:19,707 --> 01:31:24,387
Speaker 19: Yeah, for sure. We spoke about this year Apollo Project

1719
01:31:24,427 --> 01:31:26,307
Speaker 19: being our home and preteting it what all we got

1720
01:31:26,427 --> 01:31:28,427
Speaker 19: and it's going to take all of us to do it.

1721
01:31:29,267 --> 01:31:31,507
Speaker 19: And yeah, super super stoked that we were able to

1722
01:31:31,547 --> 01:31:33,027
Speaker 19: start the season off with a good win.

1723
01:31:33,187 --> 01:31:36,507
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, Kyle, what were you thinking one try,

1724
01:31:36,627 --> 01:31:40,547
Speaker 3: then two, then three on debut. That's a remarkable stat

1725
01:31:40,627 --> 01:31:42,947
Speaker 3: line for anyone to have in a single game, to

1726
01:31:42,947 --> 01:31:45,907
Speaker 3: get a hat trick. But you're on debut and Super rugby.

1727
01:31:45,987 --> 01:31:46,587
Speaker 3: What were you thinking.

1728
01:31:47,667 --> 01:31:50,467
Speaker 19: Yeah, obviously didn't expect that. I was hoping for one

1729
01:31:50,547 --> 01:31:53,907
Speaker 19: at least on debut, and to get through was yeah,

1730
01:31:53,907 --> 01:31:56,707
Speaker 19: pretty special and definitely didn't think that was going to happen,

1731
01:31:56,787 --> 01:31:57,547
Speaker 19: but pretty stoked.

1732
01:31:58,107 --> 01:32:00,507
Speaker 3: What are the skills that you pride yourself on as

1733
01:32:00,787 --> 01:32:01,347
Speaker 3: a half back?

1734
01:32:01,427 --> 01:32:05,107
Speaker 2: Came probably the basics.

1735
01:32:04,787 --> 01:32:08,387
Speaker 19: Of just catch catch pass, obviously passing through the main

1736
01:32:08,467 --> 01:32:12,227
Speaker 19: one and kicking game, but also I like to think

1737
01:32:12,267 --> 01:32:14,707
Speaker 19: that I've got a good running support line game and

1738
01:32:14,747 --> 01:32:18,347
Speaker 19: I'm always there to finish finish off tries with the

1739
01:32:18,427 --> 01:32:21,027
Speaker 19: boys doing all the hard work and me just running.

1740
01:32:20,747 --> 01:32:21,307
Speaker 8: Over the line.

1741
01:32:21,787 --> 01:32:23,467
Speaker 3: What was it like playing a lot of your old

1742
01:32:23,587 --> 01:32:27,747
Speaker 3: you know, Wellington teammates last night. It was a perfect script,

1743
01:32:27,867 --> 01:32:28,147
Speaker 3: wasn't it.

1744
01:32:29,347 --> 01:32:29,547
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1745
01:32:29,587 --> 01:32:31,947
Speaker 19: It was. It was I think icing on the cake

1746
01:32:32,027 --> 01:32:34,067
Speaker 19: to be able to have a devut but do it

1747
01:32:34,067 --> 01:32:37,907
Speaker 19: against those guys. It was pretty special. And yeah there

1748
01:32:37,947 --> 01:32:40,827
Speaker 19: was a bit of a niggle and holding back in

1749
01:32:40,907 --> 01:32:43,147
Speaker 19: the rucks and a bit of trash talk throughout the game,

1750
01:32:43,187 --> 01:32:45,347
Speaker 19: but it's all what it's about so it was cool.

1751
01:32:46,067 --> 01:32:48,467
Speaker 3: What were you seeing out there at halfback? I guess

1752
01:32:48,507 --> 01:32:50,187
Speaker 3: in terms of the way the game was panning out,

1753
01:32:50,267 --> 01:32:52,467
Speaker 3: it felt like the Hurricanes had you at the edges

1754
01:32:52,907 --> 01:32:54,947
Speaker 3: in the first half, but maybe you tightened that up

1755
01:32:54,987 --> 01:32:57,307
Speaker 3: in the second. What were you seeing from your vantage point?

1756
01:32:58,427 --> 01:33:00,587
Speaker 19: I think, yeah, they did a really good job at

1757
01:33:00,587 --> 01:33:02,507
Speaker 19: getting around the corner and beating us on the edges,

1758
01:33:02,787 --> 01:33:05,627
Speaker 19: like you said, and I think we spoke about it

1759
01:33:05,707 --> 01:33:08,467
Speaker 19: at halftime that that was a work one for us

1760
01:33:08,547 --> 01:33:11,147
Speaker 19: through the second half, and the boys did really well

1761
01:33:11,187 --> 01:33:13,627
Speaker 19: to adjust to that, and yeah, it done well.

1762
01:33:14,707 --> 01:33:17,147
Speaker 3: I guess last year you weren't there. But has that

1763
01:33:17,267 --> 01:33:19,907
Speaker 3: been spoken about? I guess the tough times this team

1764
01:33:19,987 --> 01:33:22,627
Speaker 3: went through in twenty twenty four. Is you embark on

1765
01:33:22,707 --> 01:33:23,267
Speaker 3: a new season?

1766
01:33:24,307 --> 01:33:26,147
Speaker 19: Yeah, for sure. There's been a bit of a chat

1767
01:33:26,267 --> 01:33:30,707
Speaker 19: of obviously how last year was and not letting it

1768
01:33:30,787 --> 01:33:33,387
Speaker 19: been a downfall but a growth point for the group.

1769
01:33:33,467 --> 01:33:38,387
Speaker 19: And I think, yeah, starting the season off for a

1770
01:33:38,427 --> 01:33:42,027
Speaker 19: good one and good morele in the group is positive.

1771
01:33:42,667 --> 01:33:44,907
Speaker 3: Can let's be somewhere? I guess you add something because

1772
01:33:44,907 --> 01:33:46,827
Speaker 3: you weren't there, you don't have that baggage of last year.

1773
01:33:46,867 --> 01:33:48,547
Speaker 3: You can just come in and sort of add what

1774
01:33:48,627 --> 01:33:49,707
Speaker 3: you want to this group.

1775
01:33:51,027 --> 01:33:51,187
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1776
01:33:51,227 --> 01:33:54,267
Speaker 19: I think well for me it's just coming into the environment,

1777
01:33:55,627 --> 01:33:58,467
Speaker 19: being really welcomed in by the group and the coaches

1778
01:33:58,507 --> 01:34:01,867
Speaker 19: and management, and then just just moving myself and adding

1779
01:34:01,947 --> 01:34:05,387
Speaker 19: what I can and I'm hoping that it's been a help.

1780
01:34:05,467 --> 01:34:08,027
Speaker 3: So I know, the hurricanes, we're trying to get you

1781
01:34:08,107 --> 01:34:10,307
Speaker 3: on board as well. What tipped you to go to

1782
01:34:10,387 --> 01:34:11,707
Speaker 3: the Crusaders in the first place.

1783
01:34:14,507 --> 01:34:17,947
Speaker 19: Yeah, there's pros and cons for everything, for both choices really,

1784
01:34:18,027 --> 01:34:21,507
Speaker 19: and I think for me it was I've been a

1785
01:34:21,547 --> 01:34:23,387
Speaker 19: will into my whole life and to get out of

1786
01:34:23,427 --> 01:34:26,227
Speaker 19: the region and have kind of a fresh start and

1787
01:34:26,827 --> 01:34:29,307
Speaker 19: just a bit of growth aspect, not just for on

1788
01:34:29,427 --> 01:34:33,467
Speaker 19: the field, but personally. I thought there was going to

1789
01:34:33,547 --> 01:34:36,107
Speaker 19: be a big part of it. So yeah, I think

1790
01:34:36,227 --> 01:34:39,027
Speaker 19: making the move down here was it was good for

1791
01:34:39,147 --> 01:34:40,747
Speaker 19: me just off the field as well.

1792
01:34:41,667 --> 01:34:45,427
Speaker 3: Yeah, and obviously you've been a rufer by trades in

1793
01:34:45,547 --> 01:34:49,387
Speaker 3: recent times. How most how recent were you doing roothing

1794
01:34:49,467 --> 01:34:51,627
Speaker 3: and have you had to obviously park that for it

1795
01:34:51,667 --> 01:34:53,227
Speaker 3: for a week while with a super Rugby become a

1796
01:34:53,267 --> 01:34:54,307
Speaker 3: track contract coming your way.

1797
01:34:54,987 --> 01:34:59,147
Speaker 19: Yeah, So I actually luckily just finished my roofing apprenticeship

1798
01:34:59,787 --> 01:35:01,947
Speaker 19: at the end of the start of last year, before

1799
01:35:02,027 --> 01:35:06,787
Speaker 19: the NPC season started, So I think maybe my was

1800
01:35:07,507 --> 01:35:09,907
Speaker 19: when I fully qualified, which I was pretty stoked to

1801
01:35:09,947 --> 01:35:12,747
Speaker 19: get that done, and then to have a good NBC

1802
01:35:12,907 --> 01:35:15,387
Speaker 19: season and kind of be full time by the end

1803
01:35:15,427 --> 01:35:18,227
Speaker 19: of the year, so kind of worked out pretty perfect

1804
01:35:18,307 --> 01:35:18,547
Speaker 19: for me.

1805
01:35:19,067 --> 01:35:21,187
Speaker 3: Do nights like last night sort of give you that

1806
01:35:21,307 --> 01:35:23,387
Speaker 3: belief that you're on, you know, the right track as

1807
01:35:23,427 --> 01:35:26,347
Speaker 3: a professional rugby play Yeah, for sure.

1808
01:35:26,427 --> 01:35:31,667
Speaker 19: I think obviously, like I said, deboos pretty special and

1809
01:35:31,787 --> 01:35:35,027
Speaker 19: to be able to have a be some performance on

1810
01:35:35,627 --> 01:35:39,147
Speaker 19: a game like there is, yeah, something I can take

1811
01:35:39,227 --> 01:35:40,307
Speaker 19: a bit of confidence from.

1812
01:35:41,187 --> 01:35:43,427
Speaker 3: And obviously it looks like Noah might be out for

1813
01:35:43,467 --> 01:35:46,067
Speaker 3: a wee while so that more opportunities might be coming

1814
01:35:46,147 --> 01:35:47,907
Speaker 3: your way. Just have to grab both of those with

1815
01:35:47,987 --> 01:35:49,667
Speaker 3: both hands, Yeah, exactly.

1816
01:35:50,507 --> 01:35:53,067
Speaker 19: Just continue to do what I do and keep working

1817
01:35:53,147 --> 01:35:58,107
Speaker 19: hard every day to be better and one for myself obviously,

1818
01:35:58,147 --> 01:36:00,387
Speaker 19: and then two to help the team do as this

1819
01:36:00,547 --> 01:36:03,987
Speaker 19: as we can and hopefully hopefully knows back as soon

1820
01:36:04,027 --> 01:36:04,387
Speaker 19: as you can.

1821
01:36:04,467 --> 01:36:06,987
Speaker 3: And it's not too bad and the Chiefs next week

1822
01:36:07,067 --> 01:36:10,267
Speaker 3: in Hamilton always a tricky trip. What are you expecting

1823
01:36:10,307 --> 01:36:12,507
Speaker 3: out of that. Obviously their first game coming up per tonight.

1824
01:36:13,347 --> 01:36:14,587
Speaker 17: Yeah, well we'll have.

1825
01:36:14,627 --> 01:36:16,427
Speaker 19: A watch of the game tonight and see how they go.

1826
01:36:16,587 --> 01:36:20,707
Speaker 19: But yeah, they're always a tough, tough game. Haven't played

1827
01:36:20,747 --> 01:36:23,427
Speaker 19: them personally if but I know the fight they give,

1828
01:36:24,307 --> 01:36:28,787
Speaker 19: so it'll be it'll be a big better when we can't.

1829
01:36:28,947 --> 01:36:29,987
Speaker 19: We can't leave that at all.

1830
01:36:30,547 --> 01:36:32,547
Speaker 3: Well, it was a great start last night, Kyle, loved

1831
01:36:32,587 --> 01:36:34,147
Speaker 3: watching you play and look forward to seeing you over

1832
01:36:34,187 --> 01:36:36,827
Speaker 3: the rest of the season. Beast of luck for the campaign.

1833
01:36:36,827 --> 01:36:37,547
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us.

1834
01:36:38,027 --> 01:36:39,547
Speaker 19: Awesome, Thank you very much. Cheers Gus.

1835
01:36:39,627 --> 01:36:42,027
Speaker 3: Appreciate your Ti'm Kyle Preston. One of the stories of

1836
01:36:42,067 --> 01:36:43,667
Speaker 3: the round is going to take something pretty special to

1837
01:36:43,787 --> 01:36:46,067
Speaker 3: knock that off. The purchase is a story of the

1838
01:36:46,147 --> 01:36:49,307
Speaker 3: round and super rugby. He certainly made a name for

1839
01:36:49,387 --> 01:36:51,827
Speaker 3: himself last night. A few people would have seen him

1840
01:36:51,907 --> 01:36:54,987
Speaker 3: last year in the NPC for Welmington. He was superb

1841
01:36:55,427 --> 01:36:57,747
Speaker 3: for the Mean for the Capitol as you heard there,

1842
01:36:57,827 --> 01:37:00,507
Speaker 3: they put a contract underneath them. But he went to

1843
01:37:00,587 --> 01:37:03,987
Speaker 3: the Crusaders and it looks like the Crusaders have managed

1844
01:37:04,027 --> 01:37:07,027
Speaker 3: to get themselves a very very good play up on

1845
01:37:07,147 --> 01:37:09,587
Speaker 3: the basis of last night when you think Noah Hotham

1846
01:37:09,627 --> 01:37:13,587
Speaker 3: went down obviously injured. As we discussed, Mitchell Drummond was

1847
01:37:13,667 --> 01:37:16,587
Speaker 3: them in the twenty three last night, so he certainly

1848
01:37:16,587 --> 01:37:18,107
Speaker 3: impressed in the course of the off season. I think

1849
01:37:18,147 --> 01:37:21,667
Speaker 3: his broncho time was staggering. It was top of the

1850
01:37:21,747 --> 01:37:25,307
Speaker 3: charts for the Crusaders when he came in from the offseason.

1851
01:37:25,347 --> 01:37:29,747
Speaker 3: Clearly showed he meant business and on the basis of

1852
01:37:30,107 --> 01:37:31,907
Speaker 3: seventy eight minutes last night, he has made a name

1853
01:37:31,947 --> 01:37:35,027
Speaker 3: for himself and you would expect he will start against

1854
01:37:35,027 --> 01:37:38,707
Speaker 3: the Chiefs in Hamilton and hopefully he can continue that form.

1855
01:37:39,747 --> 01:37:44,347
Speaker 3: Great start for the Crusaders. Got time for maybe a

1856
01:37:44,387 --> 01:37:47,267
Speaker 3: call or two Crusaders fans on the pack of last night,

1857
01:37:47,827 --> 01:37:50,147
Speaker 3: you feel confident that this year might pan out a

1858
01:37:50,227 --> 01:37:53,307
Speaker 3: little bit better than last year? Is it your year again?

1859
01:37:54,507 --> 01:37:54,587
Speaker 9: Oh?

1860
01:37:54,667 --> 01:37:56,787
Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine two ninety two for

1861
01:37:56,867 --> 01:38:01,307
Speaker 3: a text message? The Hurricanes hard to know too much.

1862
01:38:01,307 --> 01:38:03,387
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't quite get a read on that

1863
01:38:03,467 --> 01:38:06,867
Speaker 3: performance last night from the Hurricanes. They lied early fourteen

1864
01:38:06,987 --> 01:38:11,427
Speaker 3: nil up, took advantage of the Crusaders poor discipline. Couldn't

1865
01:38:11,427 --> 01:38:13,347
Speaker 3: get back into the contest though in the second spell

1866
01:38:13,387 --> 01:38:17,347
Speaker 3: the Crusaders managed to apply. I was going to say

1867
01:38:17,387 --> 01:38:19,227
Speaker 3: the band aid. Nothing really the band aid they applied.

1868
01:38:19,227 --> 01:38:23,107
Speaker 3: I fe fixes at halftime and the Hurricanes just couldn't

1869
01:38:23,107 --> 01:38:25,147
Speaker 3: get back into the contest and the second spell three

1870
01:38:25,187 --> 01:38:28,907
Speaker 3: points to show after the break, Crusaders take charge.

1871
01:38:30,667 --> 01:38:30,947
Speaker 2: Is it the.

1872
01:38:30,907 --> 01:38:35,787
Speaker 3: Crusaders year again? I'll tell you what from the Hurricanes perspective,

1873
01:38:36,947 --> 01:38:42,107
Speaker 3: heat an awful, very very impressive player. Looks like they've

1874
01:38:42,107 --> 01:38:45,067
Speaker 3: managed to get there at the Hurricanes text line open

1875
01:38:45,147 --> 01:38:46,387
Speaker 3: nineteen nine and two if you do want to get

1876
01:38:46,427 --> 01:38:49,667
Speaker 3: in touch or eight hundred eighty ten eighty we'll take

1877
01:38:49,667 --> 01:38:53,867
Speaker 3: your adelaide very very shortly. Liv Golf was absolutely pumping

1878
01:38:54,387 --> 01:38:57,107
Speaker 3: at the moment of Marcus Wheelhouse is going to join

1879
01:38:57,187 --> 01:39:00,187
Speaker 3: us here? On news Talk ZB twenty two after.

1880
01:39:00,067 --> 01:39:05,787
Speaker 1: Two, The Tough Questions Off the Turf Weekend Sports with GJ. Gunnomes,

1881
01:39:06,387 --> 01:39:10,067
Speaker 1: Zeland's most trusted home builder, News Dogs Where it.

1882
01:39:10,147 --> 01:39:12,747
Speaker 3: Is twenty five after two talking about a super rugby

1883
01:39:12,787 --> 01:39:15,587
Speaker 3: on the back of chatting with Kyle Preston and the

1884
01:39:15,747 --> 01:39:18,987
Speaker 3: new Crusaders half pack who shan last night with three tries?

1885
01:39:19,187 --> 01:39:21,987
Speaker 3: Other Crusaders back or is it too early to say?

1886
01:39:22,187 --> 01:39:23,467
Speaker 3: Afternoon Wendy, how are you?

1887
01:39:24,467 --> 01:39:28,867
Speaker 20: I s thank you very huts with my team. I've

1888
01:39:28,947 --> 01:39:31,347
Speaker 20: had this team since Alex Wiley.

1889
01:39:32,867 --> 01:39:35,107
Speaker 3: And you're you're in your reckon. They might be back

1890
01:39:35,147 --> 01:39:36,667
Speaker 3: after a tough year last year, Wendy.

1891
01:39:37,507 --> 01:39:40,627
Speaker 20: It was a tough year and it hasn't started. All

1892
01:39:40,907 --> 01:39:42,267
Speaker 20: fourteen of them still ill.

1893
01:39:43,147 --> 01:39:44,747
Speaker 3: That's right, tough, but.

1894
01:39:46,387 --> 01:39:47,547
Speaker 11: You know all the best.

1895
01:39:48,107 --> 01:39:48,147
Speaker 12: No.

1896
01:39:48,507 --> 01:39:51,947
Speaker 20: I changed to reach my hometown and I'm miss terribly.

1897
01:39:53,187 --> 01:39:55,147
Speaker 3: Well, it's on the go. You'll you'll have to make

1898
01:39:55,187 --> 01:39:57,467
Speaker 3: a trip down. The new Stadium's not too far away, Windy.

1899
01:39:57,547 --> 01:39:59,827
Speaker 3: It's looking I was down in Christ's last week.

1900
01:40:00,907 --> 01:40:06,227
Speaker 20: Yes, yeah, but I'm getting quite old and I can't

1901
01:40:06,507 --> 01:40:11,467
Speaker 20: down there. Family can't take me. So that's disappointing. But

1902
01:40:11,587 --> 01:40:13,867
Speaker 20: never mind. It's lovely when you've got the radio and

1903
01:40:13,987 --> 01:40:15,187
Speaker 20: you can hear all these things.

1904
01:40:15,347 --> 01:40:17,907
Speaker 3: Well, we're grateful to have you listening, Wendy. Things for

1905
01:40:17,987 --> 01:40:20,747
Speaker 3: your call this afternoon. So lovely to hear from you,

1906
01:40:20,867 --> 01:40:23,507
Speaker 3: and listening this afternoon that new stadium by the way.

1907
01:40:23,707 --> 01:40:26,667
Speaker 3: Just as as an aside, I was down in christ

1908
01:40:26,747 --> 01:40:29,867
Speaker 3: Jeurch last weekend for the Coast to Coast our coverage

1909
01:40:29,867 --> 01:40:32,667
Speaker 3: here on News Talk ZMB. I was down at Christmas

1910
01:40:32,707 --> 01:40:37,987
Speaker 3: as well. It seems to have grown exponentially in the

1911
01:40:38,067 --> 01:40:40,347
Speaker 3: six weeks between. It is coming along at a rate

1912
01:40:40,387 --> 01:40:42,587
Speaker 3: of knights you have if you're not in christ Church,

1913
01:40:43,907 --> 01:40:46,547
Speaker 3: it's going to be online from they say April twenty

1914
01:40:46,587 --> 01:40:50,267
Speaker 3: twenty six next year. That is going to be some

1915
01:40:50,387 --> 01:40:52,587
Speaker 3: scene when the Crusader's head to that stadium. It's going

1916
01:40:52,627 --> 01:40:55,307
Speaker 3: to be pretty impressive. It just rises out of the city.

1917
01:40:56,107 --> 01:40:57,587
Speaker 3: I can't remember who. Someone was describing it to be

1918
01:40:57,667 --> 01:41:01,947
Speaker 3: like one of those wars were all the World's Darcy

1919
01:41:02,027 --> 01:41:04,027
Speaker 3: water Grove actually, you know, one of those World of

1920
01:41:04,027 --> 01:41:06,667
Speaker 3: the World monsters aliens that comes out of the turf.

1921
01:41:06,867 --> 01:41:09,707
Speaker 3: It just is on the horizon. It looks spectacular and

1922
01:41:09,827 --> 01:41:14,027
Speaker 3: looking forward to getting that underway next year. Tim says,

1923
01:41:14,067 --> 01:41:17,507
Speaker 3: this is the John Preston's son. No, he's not. I

1924
01:41:17,547 --> 01:41:20,947
Speaker 3: think he's had to play that down in the media before.

1925
01:41:21,947 --> 01:41:23,907
Speaker 3: That's what John Preston did, wasn't it. We went from

1926
01:41:24,827 --> 01:41:28,267
Speaker 3: Wellington to Canterbury, if I recall rightly, it might be

1927
01:41:28,307 --> 01:41:30,387
Speaker 3: slightly wrong on that, but he went to Wellington and Canterbury,

1928
01:41:30,427 --> 01:41:35,147
Speaker 3: so maybe there's something in the name. And Jeffer says

1929
01:41:35,227 --> 01:41:39,227
Speaker 3: this Kyle Preston playing for Wellington versus Tasman last year,

1930
01:41:39,267 --> 01:41:41,587
Speaker 3: dropp David Hervilly on the spot as heavily looks certain

1931
01:41:41,627 --> 01:41:44,907
Speaker 3: for a try. Preston will be in the abs mix

1932
01:41:46,147 --> 01:41:50,467
Speaker 3: bit call, but he keeps playing like that, certainly won't

1933
01:41:50,507 --> 01:41:53,467
Speaker 3: be far away from contention. He's probably going to get

1934
01:41:53,467 --> 01:41:56,107
Speaker 3: a bit of running game time with nor Hotham out

1935
01:41:56,187 --> 01:41:57,907
Speaker 3: for the next week while we don't quite know as yet,

1936
01:41:57,947 --> 01:42:02,307
Speaker 3: but incredibly impressive start Kyle Preston to a super rugby career.

1937
01:42:02,427 --> 01:42:07,027
Speaker 3: Twenty eight after two on news Talk zb Beat, Let's

1938
01:42:07,067 --> 01:42:11,987
Speaker 3: take you to Adelaide and the live golf Adelaide has

1939
01:42:12,027 --> 01:42:15,187
Speaker 3: been absolutely pumping. I saw it last year, it seems

1940
01:42:15,227 --> 01:42:18,227
Speaker 3: like it's got even bigger this year. And Patrick Reid

1941
01:42:18,747 --> 01:42:22,547
Speaker 3: with us Whole in one yesterday absolute scenes. Let's have

1942
01:42:22,587 --> 01:42:26,707
Speaker 3: a listen a little more encouraging, shall we say? As

1943
01:42:26,747 --> 01:42:27,427
Speaker 3: the day goes on?

1944
01:42:31,187 --> 01:42:32,027
Speaker 2: Godness me.

1945
01:42:34,107 --> 01:42:39,427
Speaker 3: Baswa reading little duty. Well, I didn't check it on

1946
01:42:43,467 --> 01:42:48,547
Speaker 3: ace in the first hour o day one. Those are

1947
01:42:48,587 --> 01:42:51,427
Speaker 3: the scenes in Adelaide yesterday on TV and Z Plus

1948
01:42:51,467 --> 01:42:53,867
Speaker 3: who now have the live golf right, So hole in

1949
01:42:53,947 --> 01:42:56,547
Speaker 3: one for Patrick Reid that was the party hole seems

1950
01:42:56,587 --> 01:42:58,587
Speaker 3: like the whole place is a party. And someone who's

1951
01:42:58,587 --> 01:43:01,587
Speaker 3: there is a former New Zellian golfer and golf coach

1952
01:43:01,707 --> 01:43:05,987
Speaker 3: Marcus Wheelhouse, joining the program. Marcus, it looks like it's

1953
01:43:06,027 --> 01:43:09,267
Speaker 3: been absolutely raga. How have you enjoyed it?

1954
01:43:10,547 --> 01:43:13,507
Speaker 17: Yeah, it was look at a It's an event that's

1955
01:43:13,547 --> 01:43:15,587
Speaker 17: got lots of energy. I'll put it that way. It's

1956
01:43:15,987 --> 01:43:16,667
Speaker 17: great for the hearing.

1957
01:43:17,307 --> 01:43:19,267
Speaker 3: What's the atmosphere like, put it, put us on in

1958
01:43:19,747 --> 01:43:21,867
Speaker 3: your shoes, I guess. On course it looks like an

1959
01:43:22,147 --> 01:43:25,187
Speaker 3: absolute party fast. Is it actually like that at live

1960
01:43:25,267 --> 01:43:26,227
Speaker 3: golf Atalte.

1961
01:43:26,907 --> 01:43:27,387
Speaker 5: It really is.

1962
01:43:27,427 --> 01:43:31,027
Speaker 17: I mean you can probably hear the tones behind me.

1963
01:43:31,187 --> 01:43:35,347
Speaker 17: Now that's pretty much just playing constantly. You've got a real,

1964
01:43:35,547 --> 01:43:38,627
Speaker 17: you know, sort of broad demographic of people that are

1965
01:43:38,787 --> 01:43:41,147
Speaker 17: that are watching golf and and just being here, just

1966
01:43:41,187 --> 01:43:44,027
Speaker 17: being at the event. You know, like I love strains,

1967
01:43:44,067 --> 01:43:47,547
Speaker 17: but you know attitude. They'd go and watch, you know.

1968
01:43:47,667 --> 01:43:48,667
Speaker 2: A couple a race.

1969
01:43:49,467 --> 01:43:52,667
Speaker 17: So it's great, you know that there's yeah, all ends

1970
01:43:52,667 --> 01:43:55,747
Speaker 17: of the spectrum, and and and everybody, you know, every

1971
01:43:55,787 --> 01:43:59,747
Speaker 17: really got the party spot, you know, the watering hole.

1972
01:43:59,827 --> 01:44:02,067
Speaker 17: And and as you saw, you say, that went off

1973
01:44:02,147 --> 01:44:04,347
Speaker 17: like a cracker. And then you've got you know, the

1974
01:44:04,467 --> 01:44:07,827
Speaker 17: DJ's playing at night, and so the crowd sort of changed.

1975
01:44:07,867 --> 01:44:09,707
Speaker 17: Like during the day, it's gone interesting to watch, you know.

1976
01:44:10,107 --> 01:44:13,067
Speaker 17: We come about four o'clock the party people started coming

1977
01:44:13,107 --> 01:44:14,587
Speaker 17: and there was a lots of young people around and

1978
01:44:14,827 --> 01:44:15,307
Speaker 17: it's great to.

1979
01:44:15,307 --> 01:44:18,907
Speaker 3: See in terms of I guess a golf vibe. Do

1980
01:44:18,987 --> 01:44:21,027
Speaker 3: people actually watch the golfers a bit like the sevens

1981
01:44:21,067 --> 01:44:22,667
Speaker 3: back in the day, you turn around if you you

1982
01:44:22,787 --> 01:44:23,787
Speaker 3: run out of things to look at.

1983
01:44:25,027 --> 01:44:27,467
Speaker 17: I'm sure there's there's elements of that. But you know,

1984
01:44:27,547 --> 01:44:30,947
Speaker 17: the great thing about lets you know the caliber player

1985
01:44:30,987 --> 01:44:33,427
Speaker 17: that's here. You know, like you wouldn't get the john

1986
01:44:33,547 --> 01:44:36,627
Speaker 17: Arms and the and you know and just Dustin Johnson's

1987
01:44:36,667 --> 01:44:39,387
Speaker 17: the stuff if it wasn't with so you know, there

1988
01:44:39,427 --> 01:44:42,787
Speaker 17: are some golf addicts and junkies here, you know, looking

1989
01:44:42,827 --> 01:44:45,667
Speaker 17: at that as well. So, yeah, that's real. It's a

1990
01:44:45,707 --> 01:44:47,547
Speaker 17: real uh braordinate.

1991
01:44:48,027 --> 01:44:50,867
Speaker 3: Ben Campbell's a player that you've worked with closely. He's

1992
01:44:51,187 --> 01:44:54,467
Speaker 3: with the range Goats this year had a you know,

1993
01:44:54,667 --> 01:44:56,747
Speaker 3: not too bad round one tied thirty seven and the

1994
01:44:56,827 --> 01:44:59,027
Speaker 3: individual leader board. How did he get on on day one?

1995
01:45:00,267 --> 01:45:01,627
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit, a little bit tough.

1996
01:45:01,667 --> 01:45:03,667
Speaker 17: I was pretty frustrating. He sort of got off to

1997
01:45:03,667 --> 01:45:05,387
Speaker 17: a pretty good start. He was toned early and then

1998
01:45:06,587 --> 01:45:08,987
Speaker 17: it was pretty tricky with the win and a couple

1999
01:45:09,027 --> 01:45:12,187
Speaker 17: of complacements I thought were pretty pretty tricky. So just

2000
01:45:12,267 --> 01:45:13,947
Speaker 17: cop you coming home. But yeah, no, look at I

2001
01:45:13,987 --> 01:45:15,827
Speaker 17: think he's definitely looking at at having a better day

2002
01:45:15,827 --> 01:45:18,547
Speaker 17: to day. Felt like that. It's just you know, there's

2003
01:45:18,547 --> 01:45:20,627
Speaker 17: a couple of things gon't quite right, but we hopefully

2004
01:45:20,667 --> 01:45:23,067
Speaker 17: saw that last night and and and get.

2005
01:45:23,027 --> 01:45:23,587
Speaker 4: Up with great.

2006
01:45:23,947 --> 01:45:27,267
Speaker 3: How's he enjoying live golf obviously the second tournament and

2007
01:45:27,427 --> 01:45:31,187
Speaker 3: the range Goats team, you know, how does he embraced

2008
01:45:31,267 --> 01:45:33,387
Speaker 3: the full time nature of his job now?

2009
01:45:35,027 --> 01:45:37,507
Speaker 17: Yeah, look, I think it's really it's early days obviously,

2010
01:45:38,307 --> 01:45:40,427
Speaker 17: just the second week where the range goes. But he's

2011
01:45:40,427 --> 01:45:42,947
Speaker 17: had a year about here last year being a reserve,

2012
01:45:43,067 --> 01:45:45,187
Speaker 17: so knows, you know a lot of the feels of

2013
01:45:45,267 --> 01:45:46,947
Speaker 17: what you know, what the events are like and what

2014
01:45:47,027 --> 01:45:48,747
Speaker 17: to do. So it feels very comfortable out here now.

2015
01:45:49,987 --> 01:45:51,667
Speaker 17: And yeah, so it's just about you know, you're getting

2016
01:45:51,747 --> 01:45:54,227
Speaker 17: kind of guys on the team and it's a cool vibe.

2017
01:45:54,267 --> 01:45:56,027
Speaker 17: You know, like to have some people that you know

2018
01:45:56,067 --> 01:45:58,067
Speaker 17: they all got your back and they're trying to egg

2019
01:45:58,187 --> 01:46:00,787
Speaker 17: on and and everybody has you know, goody good and

2020
01:46:00,827 --> 01:46:02,867
Speaker 17: bad days of sports, so it's nice to have some

2021
01:46:02,987 --> 01:46:06,107
Speaker 17: support there. And and then they've also got just a team,

2022
01:46:06,667 --> 01:46:10,307
Speaker 17: the team managers and the social media people.

2023
01:46:10,147 --> 01:46:10,587
Speaker 2: Et cetera.

2024
01:46:11,027 --> 01:46:13,147
Speaker 17: So yeah, there's a it's a pretty good crop. You've

2025
01:46:13,187 --> 01:46:16,107
Speaker 17: got the caddy and they'll get on, you know. Well,

2026
01:46:16,547 --> 01:46:17,187
Speaker 17: it's good to say.

2027
01:46:17,427 --> 01:46:19,787
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been around for three or four years now

2028
01:46:19,867 --> 01:46:22,787
Speaker 3: and there's alsosly always the talk of the merger coming through,

2029
01:46:22,867 --> 01:46:25,107
Speaker 3: but they don't seem in a hurry to get back

2030
01:46:25,147 --> 01:46:27,347
Speaker 3: with the p g A or to buy any extent,

2031
01:46:27,547 --> 01:46:29,467
Speaker 3: so they're just forging their own path. Is that what

2032
01:46:29,547 --> 01:46:29,947
Speaker 3: you're seeing?

2033
01:46:31,307 --> 01:46:33,627
Speaker 17: Yeah, look, I think it's it's taken a bit of

2034
01:46:33,667 --> 01:46:35,307
Speaker 17: a turn in the last a couple of months, you know,

2035
01:46:35,347 --> 01:46:38,147
Speaker 17: with a lot of the rhetoric and and chat about

2036
01:46:38,227 --> 01:46:40,267
Speaker 17: you know, sort of from Rory, from from the CGA

2037
01:46:40,347 --> 01:46:43,787
Speaker 17: tour players obviously now the extentions coming through with the

2038
01:46:43,987 --> 01:46:46,827
Speaker 17: with the Open and the US Open, so you know,

2039
01:46:46,947 --> 01:46:50,387
Speaker 17: things seem to be turning for the better for for inclusion.

2040
01:46:51,347 --> 01:46:54,067
Speaker 17: You know, it was pretty pretty hostile these stages, wasn't it.

2041
01:46:54,147 --> 01:46:54,507
Speaker 12: You know, So.

2042
01:46:56,067 --> 01:46:58,627
Speaker 17: Yeah, no, look, I think, yeah, you look at up

2043
01:46:58,627 --> 01:46:59,987
Speaker 17: the I p L and you look at you know,

2044
01:47:00,027 --> 01:47:02,667
Speaker 17: a lot of a lot of you know, so you

2045
01:47:02,707 --> 01:47:05,587
Speaker 17: could say breakout leagues or tours and it would end

2046
01:47:05,707 --> 01:47:07,827
Speaker 17: upper sports. You know, it takes a couple of years

2047
01:47:07,867 --> 01:47:10,427
Speaker 17: for people who sort of get there, I suppose the

2048
01:47:10,507 --> 01:47:13,067
Speaker 17: gist of what they're trying to achieve and and and

2049
01:47:13,507 --> 01:47:14,987
Speaker 17: you know, they do a lot of really good things

2050
01:47:15,027 --> 01:47:17,947
Speaker 17: here at list and and I think that you know

2051
01:47:18,307 --> 01:47:20,867
Speaker 17: that when once people sort of get over that, there

2052
01:47:20,947 --> 01:47:24,427
Speaker 17: is I suppose a different offering is a good way

2053
01:47:24,467 --> 01:47:26,427
Speaker 17: to put it. And that's I think, really, you.

2054
01:47:26,467 --> 01:47:26,987
Speaker 2: Know, really cool.

2055
01:47:27,027 --> 01:47:29,587
Speaker 17: I mean, you know, that's how the world we live in, right.

2056
01:47:29,627 --> 01:47:31,987
Speaker 17: Everybody's not you know, it doesn't like cheese, you know,

2057
01:47:32,067 --> 01:47:34,547
Speaker 17: and doesn't like chocolate. So it's good to just get

2058
01:47:34,587 --> 01:47:38,867
Speaker 17: that little bit of change. And and that's a great entertainment.

2059
01:47:38,467 --> 01:47:41,427
Speaker 3: For it what I live golf event work in New Zealand.

2060
01:47:41,467 --> 01:47:43,147
Speaker 3: Do you think Marcus, I know, has moved it a

2061
01:47:43,227 --> 01:47:45,067
Speaker 3: little bit last year. Do you think that it would

2062
01:47:45,107 --> 01:47:46,787
Speaker 3: have legs on the side of the tasm.

2063
01:47:47,787 --> 01:47:52,307
Speaker 17: Yeah, I'd say definitely. You know, there's definitely that sort

2064
01:47:52,307 --> 01:47:56,787
Speaker 17: of antipathy into a way of enjoying yourself and music

2065
01:47:56,907 --> 01:48:00,427
Speaker 17: and severs and everything else that sits around the entertaining

2066
01:48:00,467 --> 01:48:02,347
Speaker 17: side of things. So yeah, no, like it would be

2067
01:48:02,387 --> 01:48:04,427
Speaker 17: great to see. I'd just love to see more golf

2068
01:48:04,467 --> 01:48:06,147
Speaker 17: in the film, you know, and at a high levels?

2069
01:48:06,387 --> 01:48:07,867
Speaker 17: Did he nothing look good?

2070
01:48:08,467 --> 01:48:10,427
Speaker 3: And just in terms of Ben's game as well, I

2071
01:48:10,427 --> 01:48:13,267
Speaker 3: guess the range Goes playing under Bubba Watson couldn't ask for,

2072
01:48:13,827 --> 01:48:15,827
Speaker 3: you know, a better player to player alongside in terms

2073
01:48:15,827 --> 01:48:19,507
Speaker 3: of his pedigree through the years playing majors and now

2074
01:48:19,587 --> 01:48:21,667
Speaker 3: on the Live Tour and captaining the range Goats team.

2075
01:48:21,667 --> 01:48:23,867
Speaker 3: But he's got a pretty good sponge to learn from

2076
01:48:23,907 --> 01:48:25,667
Speaker 3: about how it all works on the Live Tour, doesn't

2077
01:48:25,707 --> 01:48:27,387
Speaker 3: he for sure?

2078
01:48:27,547 --> 01:48:27,747
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2079
01:48:27,907 --> 01:48:31,147
Speaker 17: Like, and Bubba's you know, he's super nice guy. You

2080
01:48:31,187 --> 01:48:33,787
Speaker 17: know there are a nice other better and better week

2081
01:48:33,827 --> 01:48:36,307
Speaker 17: the week, and so yeah, no, it's so far for

2082
01:48:36,387 --> 01:48:39,507
Speaker 17: good and everything's Joey lastly fantastic.

2083
01:48:39,547 --> 01:48:42,547
Speaker 3: I wish you the best of luck and enjoying everything

2084
01:48:42,587 --> 01:48:44,427
Speaker 3: that Live Golf Adelaide has to offer. Thanks for your

2085
01:48:44,467 --> 01:48:46,507
Speaker 3: time Marcus and joining us on news talk z'd be

2086
01:48:46,587 --> 01:48:49,707
Speaker 3: this afternoon. Thanks for having us there. Marcus Wilhouse joining

2087
01:48:49,787 --> 01:48:52,787
Speaker 3: us there. He's a coach of Ben Campbell, and he's

2088
01:48:52,827 --> 01:48:56,467
Speaker 3: across there at Live Adelaide, which looks like quite the event.

2089
01:48:56,707 --> 01:48:59,067
Speaker 3: Joe Texas at an early gipt our son, who's in

2090
01:48:59,147 --> 01:49:01,387
Speaker 3: his late twenties, is at the Live Golf and Adelaide

2091
01:49:01,387 --> 01:49:02,907
Speaker 3: with a couple of mates. He's having the time of

2092
01:49:02,987 --> 01:49:06,107
Speaker 3: his life. Sees the golf looks incredible, whether in atmosphere

2093
01:49:06,187 --> 01:49:09,267
Speaker 3: just amazing. Keeps ringing and texting his father telling him

2094
01:49:09,707 --> 01:49:12,507
Speaker 3: he is loving us. I'm glad to hear that, Joe.

2095
01:49:12,547 --> 01:49:16,387
Speaker 3: It looks like an absolute ball. Everyone that goes raves

2096
01:49:16,427 --> 01:49:18,747
Speaker 3: about it. A couple of people that are bumped into

2097
01:49:18,827 --> 01:49:21,507
Speaker 3: the last twelve months or so mentioning that they were

2098
01:49:21,507 --> 01:49:24,987
Speaker 3: at Live Golf Adelaide and twenty twenty four and how

2099
01:49:25,067 --> 01:49:28,627
Speaker 3: much fun it was. I actually looked at going this year.

2100
01:49:28,627 --> 01:49:31,387
Speaker 3: I think it was an April last year. I thought, well,

2101
01:49:31,467 --> 01:49:34,027
Speaker 3: maybe we can could combine it. Go to an AFL

2102
01:49:34,187 --> 01:49:37,867
Speaker 3: game one night, poured Adelaide, Adelaide Crows or something, go

2103
01:49:37,987 --> 01:49:41,067
Speaker 3: to the Live Golf for a couple of days, go

2104
01:49:41,227 --> 01:49:43,467
Speaker 3: somewhere else and see what Adelaide's got to offer. But

2105
01:49:43,507 --> 01:49:46,747
Speaker 3: then they moved to February and this weekend and not

2106
01:49:46,867 --> 01:49:51,307
Speaker 3: to be. But if they keep going, they've got something there.

2107
01:49:51,547 --> 01:49:54,027
Speaker 3: I think everyone poo pooed it at the start, this

2108
01:49:54,227 --> 01:49:55,987
Speaker 3: Live idea, and I don't think it's got the TV

2109
01:49:56,067 --> 01:49:59,907
Speaker 3: eyeballs that they're necessarily after as yet with the quality

2110
01:49:59,947 --> 01:50:03,067
Speaker 3: of players that they've got. But what it has done

2111
01:50:03,387 --> 01:50:08,547
Speaker 3: is create events like Live Adelaide. Cameron Smith can captain

2112
01:50:08,627 --> 01:50:13,067
Speaker 3: the team across the Tasman and play at a home

2113
01:50:13,147 --> 01:50:18,587
Speaker 3: tournament of sorts. It's extincted a reach around the globe

2114
01:50:18,787 --> 01:50:22,387
Speaker 3: golf rather than being a very American centric product in

2115
01:50:22,507 --> 01:50:24,547
Speaker 3: terms of the PGA Tour that I think Live has

2116
01:50:24,587 --> 01:50:27,267
Speaker 3: done very very well. Is it here for the long term?

2117
01:50:27,347 --> 01:50:29,067
Speaker 3: I think the jury is still loud. There's talk of

2118
01:50:29,107 --> 01:50:32,027
Speaker 3: the merger and everything like that, but they're still signing

2119
01:50:32,067 --> 01:50:34,747
Speaker 3: deals left, right and center. Signed with TV and Z

2120
01:50:34,867 --> 01:50:39,067
Speaker 3: plus this week as well. The Adelaide Tournament is on

2121
01:50:39,227 --> 01:50:42,027
Speaker 3: there if you're wanting to watch it. To go back

2122
01:50:42,067 --> 01:50:44,667
Speaker 3: to our discussion last year last hour around, streaming doesn't

2123
01:50:44,987 --> 01:50:49,187
Speaker 3: appear to be going away anytime soon, and they certainly

2124
01:50:49,227 --> 01:50:52,627
Speaker 3: seem to have captured something in Adelaide. Twenty three away

2125
01:50:52,667 --> 01:50:55,227
Speaker 3: from three on News Talk, becau Z' beat thank you

2126
01:50:55,267 --> 01:50:58,187
Speaker 3: for those that have texted in John Prieston went from

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Speaker 3: Canterbury to Wellington, of course, not the other way around.

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Speaker 3: I should have known. I think you went to to

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Speaker 3: use my christ as knowledge. I want to put John

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Speaker 3: Preston short there. I think he went to some beads

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Speaker 3: so he was scored in Christis now I think about it,

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Speaker 3: and went from Cannabury eventually to Wellington. Great player that

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Speaker 3: hybrid nine and ten John Preston, but no relation to

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Speaker 3: Kyle forging his own path in rugby at the moment,

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Speaker 3: twenty two away from three News talk as he'd be

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Speaker 3: Weekend Sports.

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Speaker 1: The biggest seams in sport are on Weekend Sport with GJ.

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Speaker 1: Guggos can New Zealand's lost trusted home builder News.

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Speaker 3: Talks he'd be the defending champions kick start to the

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01:51:37,187 --> 01:51:40,787
Speaker 3: titled Defense and Super Rugby tonight, the Blues hosting the

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Speaker 3: Chiefs in a rematch of last year's Grand Final, which

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Speaker 3: ultimately ended in a blowout victory for the Blues, winning

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Speaker 3: their first official title in twenty one years. Super Rugby

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Speaker 3: transit has been aside. They've put out the plea to

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01:51:54,947 --> 01:51:57,987
Speaker 3: pack the park Eden Park this evening seven oh five

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Speaker 3: kick off. The weather's been a little bit patchy in Auckland.

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01:52:01,947 --> 01:52:05,547
Speaker 3: Today dawned beautifully and then it's been on and off

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Speaker 3: showers for the last four hours or thereabout. Supposed to

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Speaker 3: clear in time for kickoff, but you never quite know

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Speaker 3: with an Auckland day. Joining us now is the Blues

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Speaker 3: chief executive Andrew Whoeso, Andrew, are you going to pack

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Speaker 3: the park?

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Speaker 9: Well, we're actually ahead of where we have any other

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01:52:23,907 --> 01:52:25,467
Speaker 9: game we've ever been at this time of year, so

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01:52:25,627 --> 01:52:30,347
Speaker 9: that's a fantastic start. And it was still going really

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01:52:30,427 --> 01:52:34,307
Speaker 9: well last night, so we are delighted with how it's going.

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Speaker 9: And I think you saw a great crowd last night

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Speaker 9: at the Hurricanes Crusaders, so no things have traveled really well.

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Speaker 9: So we're quite excited. And well, let's put it this way,

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Speaker 9: we wouldn't be able to play at Mount Smart and

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Speaker 9: so we're stoked and it there was some great rugby

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Speaker 9: last night, so let's hope that continues.

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Speaker 3: How much have you got I guess a championship halo

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Speaker 3: from last year to work with in terms of getting

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Speaker 3: people through the gates to start the season.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think that helps. I think doesn't mean a

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01:53:06,947 --> 01:53:10,467
Speaker 9: number of things that have changed though. Within the competition,

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Speaker 9: I think the Commission has done a great job with

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Speaker 9: the Fantasy League. I think our players are more open

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Speaker 9: than to promoting and just being themselves. I think that's

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Speaker 9: grown a great deal of confidence amongst the squad, which

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01:53:26,707 --> 01:53:28,867
Speaker 9: is good, right because people then get to know them

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Speaker 9: and open themselves up. So I think it definitely takes

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Speaker 9: a bit of a monkey off the back. But we've

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Speaker 9: talked all off season about not being overly complacent, but

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01:53:43,827 --> 01:53:47,587
Speaker 9: it definitely it definitely does help and the chatter. But

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Speaker 9: let's face it, there's another ten teams out there that

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Speaker 9: will just want to do us in. So we've just

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Speaker 9: got to be aware that they don't just roll over

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Speaker 9: and give you give you a victory.

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Speaker 3: No, that's quite right. And given how hard you worked

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Speaker 3: over the last twenty twenty one years to get that title,

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Speaker 3: you've gone from being the hunters to the So it's

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Speaker 3: a different proposition for the Blues this season, very much so.

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Speaker 9: Very much so, and it'll be interesting, you know, and

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Speaker 9: that's when organizations are at their most vulnerable. We've talked

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Speaker 9: about this in the off season. If you look historically,

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Speaker 9: I think you know the Blues run it in two

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Speaker 9: thousand and three and it took another twenty one year.

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Speaker 9: So don't take anything for granted. And we've got to

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Speaker 9: put our head down because you know we're up against

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Speaker 9: our nearest and darest, and you know we've had three

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Speaker 9: or four years before that of making finals and semi

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Speaker 9: finals and having disappointment, and they've had a couple of

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Speaker 9: years of that. And we know that you carry that

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Speaker 9: and it makes the fire burn a lot more inside you.

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Speaker 9: So it'll be a crackert tonight. We'll have over five

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Speaker 9: hundred and fifty thousand people watching this on TV. No

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Speaker 9: other sport in the country can achieve that, and it's

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Speaker 9: still New Zealand's number one consume sport. So to the

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Speaker 9: doomstays out there. You know, if you want to go

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Speaker 9: and watch something else, come and watch it. But a

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Speaker 9: majority of people are still watching rugby.

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Speaker 3: They are indeed, and you mentioned those changes to Super Rugby.

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Speaker 3: You've got a new CEO in place. Do you feel

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Speaker 3: that these tweaks are poised to just enhance the product

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Speaker 3: a little bit? Maybe it had been talked down a

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Speaker 3: little bit too much over the last recent years. You've

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Speaker 3: got a CEO who can do the talking and introduce

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Speaker 3: a few new things and all of a sudden the

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Speaker 3: competition has a wee bit of a shine again, correct,

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Speaker 3: And I think.

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Speaker 9: They We've still got a lot of work to do

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01:55:38,667 --> 01:55:42,147
Speaker 9: and the unions have got to allow Jack to flourish.

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Speaker 9: He's shown that what he can do straight away and

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01:55:46,907 --> 01:55:50,627
Speaker 9: that's positive, right, but we've got to keep moving towards

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01:55:50,707 --> 01:55:55,107
Speaker 9: this more and there's always a balance between high performance.

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Speaker 9: We've got the probably the best talent in the world

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Speaker 9: on show. We're the only competition in the country that

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01:55:59,987 --> 01:56:02,787
Speaker 9: can say that it has that, but we've got to

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Speaker 9: make it fan centric and I think that's what Jack's

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01:56:05,987 --> 01:56:11,027
Speaker 9: bought has given us direction and as a sport, and

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Speaker 9: we've got to get him behind him. And I tell

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Speaker 9: you the other thing that's been great this week as

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Speaker 9: I've spoken to a lot of club presidents and gms

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Speaker 9: out there, and I just want to thank the support

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Speaker 9: we've had from the rugby community this week. We sold

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Speaker 9: over fifteen hundred tickets last week through our clubs alone,

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Speaker 9: and you know, there was a bit of media about

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Speaker 9: the money that we put back into Auckland Rugby in

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Speaker 9: North Harbor last year.

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Speaker 4: But we'll continue to do that.

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Speaker 9: If we get that, if we get that support, and

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Speaker 9: they've been outstanding, really have how.

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Speaker 3: Do you ensure all the teams are on the same

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Speaker 3: page in Super Rugby, as well as your CEO, as

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01:56:49,827 --> 01:56:53,147
Speaker 3: well as New Zealand Rugby and Australian Rugby, who hold

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Speaker 3: a lot of power in this competition. Are you all

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Speaker 3: on the same page.

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Speaker 9: I think we're getting on the same page. I think

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Speaker 9: they're still work to be done, but having are bored

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01:57:07,827 --> 01:57:11,427
Speaker 9: at Super Rugby that is focused on Super Rugby gives

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01:57:11,507 --> 01:57:13,827
Speaker 9: us a voice and I think Kevin mlloy has done

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01:57:13,827 --> 01:57:19,867
Speaker 9: a great job since starting, and there's no use throwing rocks,

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01:57:20,067 --> 01:57:21,667
Speaker 9: I think the more.

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01:57:22,027 --> 01:57:22,947
Speaker 2: I think they want to.

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Speaker 9: Strong and powerful domestic product that will feed into a

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01:57:31,107 --> 01:57:34,467
Speaker 9: strong and powerful international product, and we've just got to

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Speaker 9: agree on the way that we get there. I think

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Speaker 9: the intent is very much the same. So I'm really

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Speaker 9: positive about the outlook and I'm positive about what we

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01:57:43,267 --> 01:57:45,347
Speaker 9: can contribute to the game because it's time for all

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01:57:45,427 --> 01:57:49,627
Speaker 9: stakeholders to actually make to make sure the sport's strong.

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01:57:51,147 --> 01:57:55,147
Speaker 9: And that's the key, because it's actually not levels of

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Speaker 9: rugby that compete against each other, it's us versus other sports.

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Speaker 9: And from my perspective, and I'm completely biased, I know

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Speaker 9: that the experience I've had as a kid growing up

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01:58:05,147 --> 01:58:08,627
Speaker 9: in this great game, we need to applaud it and

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01:58:09,427 --> 01:58:09,987
Speaker 9: celebrate it.

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Speaker 3: Blue CEO Andrew Hall with us. Andrews that the competition

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01:58:13,987 --> 01:58:16,747
Speaker 3: sustainable with eleven teams. I guess we saw last night

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01:58:16,787 --> 01:58:19,587
Speaker 3: the war tize the beneficiaries of some of that rebels

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01:58:19,627 --> 01:58:22,667
Speaker 3: telling to already sneaking that went over the hilanders. But

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01:58:22,787 --> 01:58:24,987
Speaker 3: can you get away with eleven teams for too long

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Speaker 3: in this competition?

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Speaker 9: Look, I think it comes down to what's going to

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Speaker 9: create the most intense.

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Speaker 2: Games.

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Speaker 9: Last night was awesome because they were intense, right and

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01:58:37,107 --> 01:58:39,787
Speaker 9: I remember looking back at I think Queensland won the

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01:58:40,307 --> 01:58:42,027
Speaker 9: Super ten when it was the Super ten.

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Speaker 4: So the powers that be.

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Speaker 9: And the clubs need to say what's actually going to

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01:58:49,227 --> 01:58:53,307
Speaker 9: make the most intense footy for the punter every week?

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Speaker 9: And whether that's ten, eleven, twelve, eight. I don't think

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01:58:59,427 --> 01:59:04,027
Speaker 9: we're sure at the moment, but my gut feel is

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01:59:05,587 --> 01:59:08,187
Speaker 9: it's got to be around number. I think that helps,

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01:59:09,347 --> 01:59:11,667
Speaker 9: and whether that's twelve or whether that's ten, But I

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01:59:11,787 --> 01:59:15,147
Speaker 9: don't think it'll be much more at that at the moment,

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01:59:17,067 --> 01:59:19,907
Speaker 9: and we've seen that. And whenever we do bring in

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01:59:19,947 --> 01:59:23,027
Speaker 9: a new team, I think there are other sports we can.

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01:59:24,907 --> 01:59:26,507
Speaker 2: We can copy who.

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01:59:26,547 --> 01:59:32,107
Speaker 9: Support those teams to be extremely successful in their first year,

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01:59:32,787 --> 01:59:35,867
Speaker 9: and that's something we haven't done well. But as I say,

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01:59:35,947 --> 01:59:38,267
Speaker 9: with a commission and with a proper structure, we can

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01:59:38,307 --> 01:59:39,107
Speaker 9: actually achieve that.

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01:59:39,547 --> 01:59:41,267
Speaker 3: And just a couple of final questions, Andrea, let you

2288
01:59:41,347 --> 01:59:44,067
Speaker 3: go Boten Barrett back to the season. How many egs

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01:59:44,107 --> 01:59:45,667
Speaker 3: or tickets per game at home is he with?

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Speaker 9: I've never backed one individual just ow your tickets made.

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01:59:52,027 --> 01:59:53,947
Speaker 9: I think there's a lot of clubs going broake with

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01:59:54,027 --> 01:59:57,107
Speaker 9: that mentality. I've been around too long to know that

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01:59:57,187 --> 01:59:59,147
Speaker 9: you can't back that. No, we've got to put a

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01:59:59,187 --> 02:00:01,067
Speaker 9: shift in as a team. You're going to have the

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02:00:01,467 --> 02:00:04,347
Speaker 9: one or two flash horries, but you can still if

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02:00:04,387 --> 02:00:06,787
Speaker 9: you're not putting in a performance every week with your team,

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02:00:06,867 --> 02:00:10,467
Speaker 9: then people won't turn up. So it's great to have

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Speaker 9: him back. He's good in the environment, he's extremely professional,

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Speaker 9: wonderful for our young fellas like.

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Speaker 2: You know, young Spencer and co that are in there.

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Speaker 9: Training with him, and that's where I think we'll get

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Speaker 9: our benefit from body the outstanding.

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Speaker 3: And just finally, how confident are you that the trophy

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Speaker 3: is staying by June? You'll keep it in your headquarters

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Speaker 3: at Alexandra Park for another season.

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Speaker 9: We just got to put our head down and realize

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Speaker 9: that it won't Those things don't come easy, and that'll

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Speaker 9: take care of it south if we just focus on

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02:00:48,147 --> 02:00:51,067
Speaker 9: the process and what we've got to do and not

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Speaker 9: get ahead of ourselves.

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Speaker 3: Andrew Waw, thanks for your time with us on News

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Speaker 3: Talk ZB this afternoon. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks very much for having me.

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Speaker 3: Mate Blue chief executive Andrew Hoare joining the program. Sounds

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Speaker 3: like ticket sales are pretty healthy. What did he say

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Speaker 3: that you wouldn't be able to fit them all in

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Speaker 3: Mountain sount Smart's capacity is about twenty five thousand, so

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Speaker 3: it must be at least over that, so I'm guessing

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Speaker 3: somewhere in the vicinity of about thirty k if not more.

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Speaker 3: And the weather is now clet again in all clin

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Speaker 3: so they might even get a bit of a walk

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Speaker 3: up crowd as well. Seven o five kick off. You

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02:01:23,147 --> 02:01:26,067
Speaker 3: can hear live commentary of the match on gold Sport

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02:01:26,147 --> 02:01:28,467
Speaker 3: and iHeartRadio very much. Looking forward to the ground and

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Speaker 3: to getting to the ground and commentating that one alongside

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Speaker 3: Aunt Strawn ends Nathan Limb this evening and we'll no

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Speaker 3: doubt review that game tomorrow here on News Talk ZIDB,

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02:01:39,027 --> 02:01:41,267
Speaker 3: it is coming up nine away from three, will take

2329
02:01:41,267 --> 02:01:43,867
Speaker 3: a break, come back and wrap up Weekend Sport for

2330
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Speaker 3: a Saturday after.

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Speaker 1: This breaking down, the Hail Mary's and the AMPI fails

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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport as a news talk for zbcause.

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Speaker 3: The old afternoon on Weekend Sports on News Talk ZIDB.

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Speaker 3: We're talking earlier about the All Blacks official app and

2335
02:02:00,787 --> 02:02:04,267
Speaker 3: suggesting that in ZIDR plus is the app you need

2336
02:02:04,387 --> 02:02:06,667
Speaker 3: to use. A couple of tick saying he has an

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Speaker 3: updated so with the new season draw it, Michael says

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Speaker 3: he's got the official lap and it hasn't updated, So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think you've got to move over to insr plus

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Speaker 3: if you want to track the Super Rugby drawer and

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Speaker 3: get those results. If you're following that way, you can

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Speaker 3: also listen to live commentary. As I mentioned before the break,

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Speaker 3: Blues Chiefs seven oh five kickoff to nine on Gold

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Speaker 3: Sport and iHeartRadio have also got the Force and mo

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Speaker 3: Onea pacifica game for you straight after from nine to

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Speaker 3: thirty five as well, So busy old evening of live

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Speaker 3: sport here. The Warriors have their trial game as well

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Speaker 3: this afternoon half past three and Hamilton playing the Storm.

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Speaker 3: Interesting to see how they get on this afternoon, final

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Speaker 3: hit out before Las Vegas. Jeep has that's rolled around

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Speaker 3: pretty quick, isn't it two weeks today or two weeks tomorrow?

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Speaker 3: They've got their season open in Las Vegas. A plenty

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Speaker 3: of KII sitting along for that. Interesting to see how

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Speaker 3: the Warriors get on this afternoon and Hamilton half past

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Speaker 3: three kickoff in that busy old show this afternoon. Very

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Speaker 3: much enjoyed your company. We'll do it all again tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure we have plenty to get stuck into from

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Speaker 3: a super rugby perspective. If last night is anything to

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Speaker 3: go by, there'll be plenty of storylines to get stuck

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Speaker 3: into tomorrow. Interesting story around betting we want to touch

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Speaker 3: on as well, and abusive players on social media. We'll

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Speaker 3: dig into that after midday tomorrow on News Talk ZB

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Speaker 3: and a bit more around the Sporting Globe as well.

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Speaker 3: I know James mcconey is looking forward to joining us.

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Speaker 3: We've been exchanging predictions on how the Chiefs are going

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Speaker 3: to go tonight against the Blues. We'll park that for

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Speaker 3: now and chat with James tomorrow. Andy, what have you

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Speaker 3: got to play us out this afternoon?

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Speaker 21: On weekends as well, Eliot, it's a National LAMB Day,

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Speaker 21: so trolled around quick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 21: It's just last it felt like yesterday, that was last

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Speaker 21: year's National Lamb Day. But of course because of that,

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Speaker 21: Jenny Wigmore's Black Sheet will take us out lovely.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: We'll see tomorrow. Thanks Andy, you drove black Never go back.

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