1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: We've got Patrick Smelly from Business Desk. It sounds like 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: New Zealand First has come to the party when it 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: comes to overseas buyers of property, and Patrick a Business 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: desk is reporting New Zealand First is set to agree 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: to allow wealthy people to buy homes above a certain threshold, 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: reportedly five million dollars. So Patrick Smeley from Business Desk 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: is with me. Now, Hello Patrick, Hi Andrew. I'm sure 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: I'm not the only person who has written there, you know, Okay, 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: do we know that the threshold is five million dollars? 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: We don't know that, and in many ways do pervot 11 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: arms with you. I think the more important thing is 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: that New Zealand First has agreed to a set of 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: reforms to the Overseas Investment Regime and so Act. And 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: it seems to me that that's actually even more significant 15 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: than the residential property thing, because that's what international investors 16 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: coming into the summit next month will be wanting to know. 17 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 2: So it's almost like that Summits has accelerated a debate 18 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: that had to be had at the Patnet table about 19 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: how they got to that point, and all this visa 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: stuff is really supporting all of that, so that people 21 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: who might want to come here in the course of 22 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: making investments will find that easier to do. 23 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I understand act absolutely, but New Zealand first, 24 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,279 Speaker 1: that is a sea change. 25 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 2: They have been persuaded over a period of time, and 26 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 2: Peter started talking about it last year, and I think 27 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: Shane Jones is particularly on board and has probably been 28 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: influential in changing Winston Peters's mind to a more nuanced 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: view about foreign investment. And as long as it's a 30 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: reasonably toppy threshold. I mean, there was a cartoon I 31 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: saw in a newspaper this morning which suggested that letting 32 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: rich people coming from from America or wherever by very 33 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: expensive homes would would increase homelesses. So I thought, I 34 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: don't really think that's very likely. They're not going to 35 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: be buying house that the average first home buyer is 36 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: looking for. 37 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: They might even be allowed to Yeah, exactly, well five 38 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: million goddon speak. You know, here we go. So you've 39 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: already mentioned, of course we've got the summit. It's coming 40 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: up very shortly, and this is setting quite a good 41 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: scene for the whole thing. When you look at all 42 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: the business settings that we are presenting before these international investors. 43 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: Are we starting to look attractive enough? 44 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: I doubt it, But I do think that there are 45 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 2: a number of things which start to come together, or 46 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: should start to come together, which maybe at the moment 47 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: they're a bit hard to see how they connect because 48 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: they're not the connections not happening. If you've put a 49 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: big list of fast track projects that need funding in 50 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: front of a whole bunch of people with lots of 51 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: money which they want to deploy in safe countries to 52 00:02:55,560 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: do good things and hopefully make some money, then fast 53 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: Track and the infrastructure projects that the government has on 54 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: its own books represents a whole bunch of opportunities for investment. 55 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: So it's now becoming possible to think that you could 56 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: get it. If you think in these terms, instead of 57 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: it taking ages, it will be reasonbly quick to get 58 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: the thing underway. So yeah, I think to some extent, 59 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: but I think it's the reality is only going to 60 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: set in very slowly. 61 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: But of course it means nothing if we don't actually 62 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: get people with investment capability, you know, and our higher 63 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: class of investment capability to come along. And they've been 64 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: very tight lipped about who's coming to the summit. I 65 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: interviewed neck Leggett the other day from Infrastructure New Zealand. 66 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: I said, mate, are you invited? And he went, I 67 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: don't know. Do you know? Do you live it? 68 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: Signed? 69 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know exactly. I would have thought he would 70 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: have been number one or certainly high up there from 71 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: the New Zealand side. Do you know who's been invited? 72 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: I know a few of the people have been invited, 73 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: and I have make educated guesses about others. I mean 74 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: New Zealand first is very keen on the on the 75 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: Singaporean Government's Sovereign Wealth Fund Temasek. I would expect them 76 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: to be there. We know that Morrison and Co. Which 77 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: is the company that manages infratil infrastructure Investor, will be 78 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 2: there and has invited other parties that they deal with 79 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 2: internationally to be present, some banks, some some other. I 80 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: think she's struggling to remember who the hell we know 81 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: about all Black of course kind of lotted copy of it. 82 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: But they will send a reasonably senior person, which is 83 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: which is which is good? I kind of thought they'd 84 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: abandoned us. 85 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: Really, Okay, Patrick, Yes, Black Rock is coming and that's 86 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: gonna that's going to put some wolves amongst the sheep, 87 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: is it not? Anyway? Thank you so much for your time. 88 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: Patrick'smily from Business Desk. For more from Hither Duplasus Allen Drive. 89 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: Listen live to new talks. 90 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 91 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: on iHeartRadio