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Speaker 1: David Seymour. You might have seen him on the news

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Speaker 1: last night or in the Herald yesterday basically calling Christopher

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Speaker 1: Luxen and the government undemocratic for refusing to support this

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Speaker 1: Treaty Principle's Bill past the first reading when it gets

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Speaker 1: to Select committee. Have you listened to what he said

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Speaker 1: on the news last night?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it is a disrespectful and anti democratic

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Speaker 2: to tell people that, no matter what they think, you're

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Speaker 2: not open to changing your mind.

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Speaker 1: Is this the issue you want to dine and ditch over.

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Speaker 1: Let's face that the Treaty Principle's Bill is dead in

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Speaker 1: the water anyway. A couple of reasons for that. Number one,

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Speaker 1: and most importantly, your coalition partners have said, nah, we

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Speaker 1: don't want to support it past the first reading. And

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Speaker 1: even if they agreed to it, the debate and the

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Speaker 1: media attention would surely from a political perspective, purely political perspective,

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Speaker 1: would drown out the next two years of potentially good

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Speaker 1: headlines about economic growth and all the stuff the government,

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Speaker 1: the other stuff the government's trying to do. And even if,

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Speaker 1: as you say, it's a incible thing to do it

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Speaker 1: for democracy to have the debate, etc. The next government

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Speaker 1: will just undo it anyway, won't they. Whoever, and whenever

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Speaker 1: that government might be, the more oxygen you give this,

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Speaker 1: the sooner that day might arrive. In reality, I don't

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Speaker 1: think David Seymour is a stupid man or a stupid politician.

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Speaker 1: He's not, and he knows this is going nowhere. It's

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Speaker 1: probably more about positioning for a plank to balance a campaign.

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