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Speaker 2: Hello you green, you said, as Welcome to Matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler Full Show podcast number two five six who for Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: the third of December. We said, we didn't actually say

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Speaker 2: what we're going to talk about on the show today.

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Speaker 2: We only really mentioned. No, I think we did. We

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Speaker 2: said we were going to talk about this, and we

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Speaker 2: were all going to talk about zero ol cool.

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Speaker 3: That's right. We gave a mini preview and then healthy bread.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, So we didn't do those. We didn't

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Speaker 2: go now cold bread. We had the most in depth

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Speaker 2: philosophical discussion about positive narratives versus negative narratives in this country,

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Speaker 2: and we had so many great calls and I feel

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Speaker 2: rinsed by it. Yep, but I think it was a

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Speaker 2: good thing to do.

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Speaker 3: But a pushback as well, which made it pee pretty spicy.

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Speaker 2: I'll need security to get home that level of positive

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Speaker 2: b blessing out the level of positive who we did

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Speaker 2: over the last three hours.

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Speaker 3: Basically, we'll need security. Yeah, ween happy makes people angry.

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Speaker 3: We need this weird reason.

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Speaker 2: We'll need the diplomatic services.

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Speaker 3: But it was a great show, so download some scribe

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Speaker 3: and give us a review and give me a taste.

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Speaker 3: All right, then, I love you big stories, the.

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Speaker 1: Leak issues, the big trends and everything in between. Matt

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Speaker 1: Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talk.

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Speaker 3: Said, be good a to you, Welcome into Wednesday show.

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Speaker 3: Really good to have you listening in as always. Hope

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Speaker 3: you're doing pretty well this afternoon. Get a Matt, get a, Tyler,

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Speaker 3: get everyone. Thanks for tuning in. Now I've got something

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Speaker 3: you might be interested in. Mate. I ran into a

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Speaker 3: man you know pretty well, Clint Roberts from down at ZDM.

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Speaker 3: He's good man. The other yeah, Brian Clint on ZDM Afternoons.

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Speaker 3: But I ran into me and he said, hey, I

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Speaker 3: just want to show you something that Heath might be

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Speaker 3: interested in. Because he's got a deep, deep addiction to Instagram.

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Speaker 3: He can't stay off it, so he's tried to sort

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Speaker 3: himself out. So he opened up his little phone and

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Speaker 3: everything is black and white.

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Speaker 4: Ah.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So he said, I've gone full noise CPO tone

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Speaker 3: because I'm hoping this might help me break my Wii

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Speaker 3: addiction on Instagram. And he does love the Grand The.

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Speaker 2: Guy cpatone or black and white? Is there a different

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Speaker 2: we'll seep your tones that Yeldie Brownie photo log.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's just straight up black and white.

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Speaker 3: I did this for a while and it does.

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Speaker 2: The logic of it is it makes your phone just

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Speaker 2: because a lot of the reason why we're addicted to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the same way.

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Speaker 2: Pokey's work, right, yep. So that draws us in. So

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Speaker 2: if you look down at your phone and it's just

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Speaker 2: sort of a depressing sort of black and white feel,

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Speaker 2: we're not depressing, but just it's not it's not glaring,

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Speaker 2: it's not lit up like a Christmas tree. It does

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Speaker 2: the phone. And that's how simple we are. You know,

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Speaker 2: We're evolved to steer into flickering lights, yep, because it

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Speaker 2: trying to look into flickering lights. It's a lot of

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Speaker 3: It makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: We want the flickering lights. Yeah, it's the less important

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Speaker 2: than the content. So if you make the phone black

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Speaker 2: get sparked off by looking at it. So it's a

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Speaker 3: It makes a lot of sceense. I don't think it

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Speaker 3: week for Clint though, because as I was talking to him,

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Speaker 2: Well, he's very good at social media, is that Clint?

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Speaker 3: He's very good.

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Speaker 2: He's very good at it, and you know he operates

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Speaker 2: and I, Tyler, if we wanted to not follow the

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Speaker 2: Being drive on Zidium, not being on social media, wrong job.

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Speaker 3: Good luck with their Clint off your listening man, right

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Speaker 3: to today's show after three o'clock. This is a story

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Speaker 3: that has been on the top charts of the hero

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Speaker 3: was there again today. This is this is big story

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Speaker 3: for people. Healthy bread and what can you trust? And

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Speaker 3: what happened to the days of just buying the white death?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean, is it healthy to spend that

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Speaker 2: much on healthy bread? My partner came home with the

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Speaker 2: these great people. I think they're called the Daily Bread

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Speaker 3: That broat the bread.

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Speaker 2: But it was so the bread that they baked this

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Speaker 2: It's like block of lead. Yeah, and that's a new thing,

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Speaker 3: What do you even do with it, that sort of bread?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to get a chainsaw out to cut it.

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Speaker 3: It's the safety, hasn't Yeah, But looking forward to that

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Speaker 3: heard this interview on with Mike this morning. But it's

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Speaker 3: a success story that keeps on rolling for Kiwi company.

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Speaker 3: Eight IF drinks that means alcohol free. So the brand

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Speaker 3: giant Morrison's. It follows on from the US expansion with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazes me that it's taken off. Whenever I

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Speaker 2: something good. Yeah, but it's really really taken off, hasn't

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Speaker 2: It has? And good on this company for doing so

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Speaker 2: well and getting around the world. But are you on

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Speaker 2: and why because for me, if I'm not drinking alcohol,

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Speaker 2: a smoothie. I don't know, like a delicious milkshake.

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Speaker 3: Right, so you go for taste rather than having some

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Speaker 3: sort of beer knockoff that doesn't have any alco in it. Interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, although there is the circumstance when I will and

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Speaker 2: I'll talk about that.

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Speaker 3: I've got a theory on this.

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Speaker 2: I've got a theory on what HOSPO, how HOSPO need

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Speaker 3: Later on we'll share that that is going to be

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Speaker 3: So this is after an opinion piece written by a

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Speaker 3: man called Rupert Hodson. He's the executive director of the

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Speaker 3: Committee for Auckland. So here's how it starts. Auckland's story

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Speaker 3: matters not just for those who call it home, but

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Speaker 3: to the prosperity of all New Zealands. It is home

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Speaker 3: to a third of New Zealand's people, of course, and

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Speaker 3: too often the headlines tell a story of decline, crime, congestion,

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Speaker 3: stored infrastructure, and rising costs. That narrative matters, he says,

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Speaker 3: It shapes how we see ourselves, how the world sees us.

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Speaker 3: When negativity dominates, it chips away at our confidence, investment, appetite,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very easy to be negative, isn't It takes

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Speaker 2: We're doing with Auckland, we're doing with a lot of

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Speaker 2: And one of them tells the story that they always

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Speaker 2: and that's why she's independent. There's two of there's the

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Speaker 2: two exact same scenarios, but two different stories, two different narratives.

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Speaker 3: Such a mindset thing.

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Speaker 2: So if our narrative is always let's take Auckland for example,

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Speaker 2: too expensive, traffic's unbearable, there's no parking, crime everywhere, rates

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Speaker 3: Queen Street sucks.

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Speaker 2: Public transport isn't good enough. Whether it's rubbish.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a blatant light. Weather ups here is fantastic.

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Speaker 3: But generally the weather ups here is fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so you can tell whatever narrative you want about

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Speaker 2: your country. But I think in nearly every metric it's

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Speaker 2: pretty awesome to be in New Zealand. But it's just like,

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Speaker 2: you know, you've all got those friends that are cynical,

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Speaker 2: that hate everything. Every movie they go to, they hate

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Speaker 3: It's called.

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Speaker 2: Chronic dissatisfaction syndrome. I think as a nation we've got that.

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Speaker 2: We're looking around. Here's an example. Imagine if there was

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Speaker 3: We're all getting free lunches, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can picture that, and then one school gets

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Speaker 2: a few moldy lunches, right, yep, so just a few.

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Speaker 3: People. Which narrative do you want in the world?

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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Speaker 3: Be very good afternoon chire. It is eighteen past one,

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Speaker 2: And that's so when they summed up Auckland in ninety

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Speaker 2: But I mean, like, how often does any of that

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't live that close to work anymore,

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Speaker 3: I mean you're already winging to be honest.

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Speaker 2: And you know it's one of the most livable cities

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Speaker 2: People need to travel more and see how bad it

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that

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Speaker 8: It's terrible.

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Speaker 2: What what's the terrible thing that's happened to you so

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Speaker 7: Thing that's happened to me today? No, No, I'm positive

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Speaker 3: But the crime that.

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Speaker 7: But the roading that you know, with all these stupid

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Speaker 3: It's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I was walking out there. I was looking around,

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Speaker 3: And that this park is just here for me to

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Speaker 2: But people are like, it's absolutely terrible here. It's absolutely

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Speaker 2: horrible because there's some homeless people fighting around at some point.

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Speaker 2: But it's just like the Maldi lunch thing. There's a

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Speaker 3: Nicely said, Oh, one hundred and eighty ten and eighty.

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic Hosking

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Speaker 11: Starting to move in the international student market. Rollments set

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Speaker 3: They're more demand than the respace I.

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Speaker 12: Wouldn't say that we're at that sort of full capacity.

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Speaker 12: Yet there's definitely room to grow, certainly in some parts

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Speaker 11: Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 3: Twenty seven past one. Are we too negative in this country?

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Speaker 2: The Texas says there's nothing more annoying than some relentlessly

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Speaker 2: positive elitist twat waffling on about how others should think

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Speaker 2: ignoring their privileged position in society that makes everything easier. Now,

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Speaker 2: I think there's something worse than that. There's nothing worse

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Speaker 2: for pretending they've got hardships that are worse than other people's.

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Speaker 2: Compare yourself to ninety percent of the other people on

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Speaker 2: these people that's always comparing to yourself, to people in

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Speaker 2: you know, comparison is the thief for joy. Maybe I

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Speaker 2: compare to yourself with the person that's got no legs,

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Speaker 3: If you live in this country, you've won the lottery

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Speaker 2: You're just trying to make yourself seem important and meaningful

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Speaker 2: it good. Yeah, shut up, Robin, how are you?

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Speaker 13: Oh?

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Speaker 14: I am really really enjoying. I'm very great grateful to

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Speaker 14: on tracks. As you said, we don't walk shoulder to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well this goes on and yet yeah, preaching

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Speaker 3: I love this city and I've only been here a year.

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Speaker 3: But but why do you think it seeps in? Is

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Speaker 15: when if you wanted to take money out of New

437
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Speaker 15: Zealand you had to apply to the government to get

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Speaker 15: money out of New Zealand, and when you wanted to

439
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Speaker 15: bring anything, you never had anything that was off season.

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Speaker 15: Now we're grizzled about everything, and everybody's got rights. Back then,

441
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Speaker 15: we didn't look at everybody having rights, We didn't look

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Speaker 15: at any differences. We just got on and enjoyed each other.

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Speaker 15: But now everybody has their rights, and I think when

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Speaker 15: you demand your rights, you stand on the rights of

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Speaker 15: somebody else. And we've got so busy demanding what is

446
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Speaker 15: our right? No food like that, then we're standing on

447
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Speaker 15: the rights for so many other people.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your call, Robert. It's an interesting thing,

449
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Speaker 2: isn't it the whole?

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Speaker 3: I guess.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of it to do is social media,

452
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Speaker 2: and that you get more play from winging. Yep, you're

453
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Speaker 2: just just winging, and saying everything is rubbish gets more

454
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Speaker 2: more of a reaction than just And also people don't

455
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Speaker 2: go around saying things are good. No, no one jumps

456
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Speaker 2: on social media. I mean, what's the biggest cesspit, and

457
00:20:11,893 --> 00:20:14,053
Speaker 2: so social media because it's read it now ye are

458
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Speaker 2: New Zealand probably out there. Yep, that's just the most

459
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Speaker 2: winging thing. I mean that's replaced the letters to the

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Speaker 2: editor and newspapers.

461
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Speaker 3: Just people winging.

462
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Speaker 2: And of course there's so much more reaction to winging,

463
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Speaker 2: so you're insensivized to winge and so people people wings

464
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Speaker 2: and then people start to start to believe the narrative.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's a lot of truth to me.

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Speaker 2: Look at this, I said, you know, it's free to

467
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Speaker 2: walk your dog in the dog park.

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Speaker 3: This absolute miserable human. It's not free. You pay for

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Speaker 3: dog registration. It's not free. You have to pay for

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Speaker 3: the dog registration. I think we've tapped into something. Can

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Speaker 3: I mean these teaks are proven the point there's something

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Speaker 3: wrong with us.

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Speaker 2: Just get a soft toy, put it on a lead

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Speaker 2: and drag that up the many dog parks that are

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Speaker 2: available to you in this country.

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Speaker 3: And look at the view and then you won't have

477
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Speaker 3: to pay your dog registration. Oh eight hundred eighty eighty

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Speaker 3: is that number to call? We got the headlines with

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Speaker 3: Rayling coming up, But keen you get your thoughts? Are

480
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Speaker 3: we too negative in this country? That was pretty negative

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Speaker 3: of me? Or that guy wasn't it? Well, it's negative

482
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Speaker 3: inception almost it is what he had to do.

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Speaker 4: Jus talks a'd be headlines.

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Speaker 16: With blue bubble, taxis it's no trouble with a blue bubble.

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Speaker 16: After weeks of speculation, Social Investment Agency head Andrew Coston

486
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Speaker 16: has resigned effective today. Costa says he accepts he should

487
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Speaker 16: have been faster and more thorough in looking at his

488
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Speaker 16: then deputy Jevin mcskimming's disclosure and more fully investigated allegations

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Speaker 16: when they were brought up. Severe thunderstorm watches are crossing

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Speaker 16: much of the Upper North Island until tonight or ere

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Speaker 16: We Funga, Padaur and Silverdale are in for a drenching

492
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Speaker 16: about now the weather system's predicted to at Auckland about two.

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Speaker 16: Disgraced to Australian former political staffer Bruce Lherman has failed

494
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Speaker 16: to overturn a court finding he probably raped a colleague

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Speaker 16: in Parliament House. Kiewe pop rock band six sixty and

496
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Speaker 16: Live Orchestra Symphony will headline the first major music event

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Speaker 16: at christ Church's Tikaha Stadium in May. The concert's part

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Speaker 16: of the seventy million dollar Major Events package, which also

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Speaker 16: includes Lincoln Park in Auckland and Ultra Music Festival in Wellington.

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Speaker 16: My six year affair cured my depression and saved my marriage.

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Speaker 2: Read more at Inzenherral Premium.

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Speaker 16: Now back to Matteathan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 6: Most Aucklanders are intensely proud of their city. It's modern,

504
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Speaker 6: the melodies, it's climate, it's continual struggle to be in

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Speaker 6: vogue with overseas trends and its frenetic growth.

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Speaker 3: Love gay.

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Speaker 2: Would you say that most Aucklanders are proud of this

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Speaker 2: city now? Would you say that most New Zealanders are

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Speaker 2: proud to be Kiwis Now? I'm very proud of to

510
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Speaker 2: live in Auckland. I feel very very lucky to be here.

511
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Speaker 2: I feel very very lucky.

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Speaker 3: To be in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: I feel very very lucky to have grown up in

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Speaker 2: beautiful Dunedin. I think to better at hyping itself up

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Speaker 2: than nearly out of the city. When I was growing up,

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Speaker 2: I just was always told that Dunedin was fantastic. I

517
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Speaker 2: even thought that the weather was amazing. I thought that

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Speaker 2: it had twenty in the summer. That you won the lottery,

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Speaker 2: I thought that was great.

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Speaker 3: That's the mentality you need, though, you know, like that's

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Speaker 3: just that pushing forward and say we live in New Zealand,

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Speaker 3: it's a good time. And look if it gets a

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Speaker 3: bit cold and Dunedin, who cares because we're in New

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Speaker 3: Zealand and this is a great country.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to make the before that I think

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Speaker 2: negative is easy. It's easy to be critical, it's easy

527
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Speaker 2: to be cynical, and it gets rewarded, particularly on social media.

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Speaker 2: This Texas says social media negativity. It's not only social media,

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Speaker 2: it's mainstream media too. Have you listened to Newstalk ZB

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Speaker 2: lately or what about this is? This is I'll describe

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Speaker 2: Auckland to you. I'm on newstalk here be, I'm the host.

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Speaker 2: Auckland is a bold, ambitious, world facing city, powered by

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Speaker 2: its people, a place where creativity, culture and innovation come

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Speaker 2: together to shape a confident future, ready New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Beautifully written. Yeah nice, that is Pride right there working

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Speaker 3: on that on the break. I could see that.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's on ZIDB. Yeah, that's very naively positive.

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Speaker 3: That yeah, super positive. Oh one hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 3: eighties and number to call? Jared, how are you?

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Speaker 2: What do you think about the narrative that we're telling

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Speaker 2: ourselves at the moment?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, good, Ay, I think it's I think it's a

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Speaker 10: bit of a romanticism about the kind of small town

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Speaker 10: New Zealand life and a lot of people frown upon

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Speaker 10: people who moved to Auckland kind of selling out. You know,

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Speaker 10: there's a kind of big city ah. Just you know,

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Speaker 10: we have that Jaffer term we throw around as well.

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Speaker 10: And I don't know, I've I've kind of experienced a

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Speaker 10: bit of both. And I've been living in Ortland now

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Speaker 10: for eight years and absolutely love it.

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Speaker 3: What do you love about it?

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Speaker 2: What's what are the positives about Auckland?

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Speaker 3: Jared?

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Speaker 10: Well, you guys are saying it's a beautiful city. There's

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Speaker 10: beaches all around, beautiful walks. Got my two kids growing

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Speaker 10: up and they conceal their mates and we are I

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Speaker 10: don't know, there's lots of conscious as well. So I'm

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Speaker 10: a musician, so I go out and see a lot

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Speaker 10: of the bands that come over, and they just tend

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Speaker 10: to come to Auckland, and I mean sometimes I'll go

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Speaker 10: to christ Church and stuff, but there's always stuff happening

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Speaker 10: in the city and I just love it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, Jared, I'm being accused of being a rich elitist

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Speaker 2: tweat that it's very easy for me to be positive

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Speaker 2: about the city. Would you describe yourself as as rich

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Speaker 2: and a member of the elite?

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Speaker 3: Jared, definitely not rich.

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Speaker 10: Hopefully not a twitt either.

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Speaker 3: Sound like a good man.

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Speaker 2: I'll accept tweat and then no, I can't push back

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Speaker 2: on twit definitely a twet.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, look, look not the I moved up here

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Speaker 10: for more of the music opportunities, and I mean you

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Speaker 10: kind of just have to in Auckland and had a

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Speaker 10: lot of success. I mean, the thing is that you

576
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Speaker 10: just can't. You can't do what I'm trying to do

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Speaker 10: with the music things and smaller towns and so the

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Speaker 10: opportunity is all you know up here in Auckland. And

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Speaker 10: I remember having a number of conversations through saying why

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Speaker 10: would you do that? Why would you move to Auckland?

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Speaker 2: You know, tell us about your music and what you're

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Speaker 2: trying to do here and how it's going.

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Speaker 13: Well.

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Speaker 10: I mean we've When I first moved up here, we

585
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Speaker 10: signed up with an agency and that was really They

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Speaker 10: were really helpful with sorting out a bunch of corporate gigs,

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Speaker 10: weddings and that kind of thing. Whereas you know, I

588
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Speaker 10: used to live in rote Ora, we had to sort

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Speaker 10: out our own weddings. We didn't get that many corporate gigs.

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Speaker 10: I mean, companies just weren't big enough to support music

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Speaker 10: and so but we noticed as serve as we moved

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Speaker 10: to Auckland, Man, we're just getting so many gigs, and

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Speaker 10: you know, pretty well paid ones as well.

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Speaker 3: So what kind of what kind of band are you?

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Speaker 10: Well, I don't do it anymore. Changed to a different vocation.

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Speaker 10: It was very different and Christian ministry at the moment.

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Speaker 10: But I used to I used to run a joey

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Speaker 10: with my sister, just doing the classic covers and a

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Speaker 10: kind of upbeat, acoustic fun vibes. Way people loved it.

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Speaker 2: Dance to night Away, No good, good on you mate.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So and so you've been up there for eight years

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Speaker 2: and you've got a couple of kids and you're not surviving,

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Speaker 2: you're thriving. Would that be true to say?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's that's absolutely right. Love, love and life. You know,

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Speaker 10: it's it's it's tough bringing our kids. I think I

607
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Speaker 10: do miss the big backyard. That's one thing I do

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Speaker 10: miss because when you're cooped up inside over the war,

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Speaker 10: you know, when it's sunny and it's it's pretty hard

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Speaker 10: to get the kids running around, so you just go

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Speaker 10: to a playground and have a good time.

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Speaker 2: But I think striving as part of life, there's it's

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Speaker 2: always hard.

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Speaker 3: It's there's always.

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Speaker 2: Hard and good and there's you know, we do things

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Speaker 2: not because they're easy, but because because they're hard. You know,

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Speaker 2: we want to make better lives for our kids, so

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Speaker 2: we make our life harder fighting for them. We want

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Speaker 2: to make you know, we want to do stuff in

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Speaker 2: this world, so we we we have to work hard

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Speaker 2: and we come up against obstacles doing it. I think

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Speaker 2: that's just life. But I think a lot of the

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Speaker 2: winging now is people that seem to believe that there

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Speaker 2: should just be a carpet rolled out in front of

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Speaker 2: them and then they'll lead to the promised land where

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Speaker 2: there's some kind of YouTube superstar or something.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 10: I think it's because because we live in a time

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Speaker 10: where there is unprecedented effluence in our culture. We have

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Speaker 10: war stuff than we've ever had throughout human history, and

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Speaker 10: yet we're experiencing this kind of mental health issues. And so,

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00:29:02,253 --> 00:29:04,853
Speaker 10: you know, we thought that if we just make everyone reached,

633
00:29:04,893 --> 00:29:07,373
Speaker 10: if we make everyone kind of prosperous and all this

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Speaker 10: kind of stuff, then we're just it up people's needs.

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00:29:09,773 --> 00:29:12,493
Speaker 10: But it's not necessarily the case. And I think you

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00:29:12,613 --> 00:29:17,933
Speaker 10: guys are right. Like social media, the news really amplifies

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00:29:18,373 --> 00:29:21,093
Speaker 10: the negativity. So there's that kind of being played in

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Speaker 10: And I just I don't know, people have kind of

639
00:29:23,133 --> 00:29:27,253
Speaker 10: lost meaning in their life in many ways, and that

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Speaker 10: might be part of the negativity that's going around. People

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00:29:30,613 --> 00:29:33,173
Speaker 10: don't really have mutionalist for what people are having kids

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Speaker 10: left as well, So the old birthplace there.

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Speaker 3: And I look, I understand, yeah, I think you're being

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00:29:37,893 --> 00:29:40,253
Speaker 3: on there, Jared, but to me, it's if you love something,

645
00:29:40,293 --> 00:29:42,933
Speaker 3: you fight for it. And if you love part of

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Speaker 3: living in this country and you're not having such a

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00:29:45,613 --> 00:29:47,733
Speaker 3: good time, you fight, you fight to make it better.

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Speaker 17: That's on you.

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00:29:48,493 --> 00:29:50,253
Speaker 3: That's not on the government or anybody else.

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Speaker 2: I saw this video someone sent it to me a

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00:29:52,773 --> 00:29:54,813
Speaker 2: listener and was from TikTok and it was some dickhead

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Speaker 2: and he was going, why would you an idiot to

653
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Speaker 2: stay in New Zealand? Why would you so much better Australia?

654
00:29:59,533 --> 00:30:01,173
Speaker 2: Why would you stay here? You're a mug And was

655
00:30:01,213 --> 00:30:03,133
Speaker 2: just listening things. I was like, maybe you'd stay here

656
00:30:03,173 --> 00:30:05,293
Speaker 2: to make it better. Maybe because you stay here because

657
00:30:05,333 --> 00:30:07,853
Speaker 2: you're grateful to be born in such a fantastic place

658
00:30:07,933 --> 00:30:10,613
Speaker 2: and you want to make where you live better than

659
00:30:10,653 --> 00:30:13,213
Speaker 2: it was when you started and leave the world that

660
00:30:13,293 --> 00:30:14,653
Speaker 2: has given you so much with more.

661
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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you want to do that. I don't know.

662
00:30:16,373 --> 00:30:19,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that making you an idiot? No, as according

663
00:30:19,173 --> 00:30:21,133
Speaker 2: to most people on TikTok, and I think you.

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Speaker 3: Know that's primarily that's the mentality of Americans for a

665
00:30:24,893 --> 00:30:28,213
Speaker 3: long time. You know, they fight for America and what

666
00:30:28,373 --> 00:30:30,533
Speaker 3: makes the US say great in their eyes, and they

667
00:30:30,573 --> 00:30:32,613
Speaker 3: don't run away and say no buget. Well some do,

668
00:30:32,813 --> 00:30:35,053
Speaker 3: some do now more and more. Yeah, but that's what's

669
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Speaker 3: made it arguably the economic powerhouse on one of the

670
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Speaker 3: greatest and most powerful and rich countries in the world.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, thank you so much for your call. Jared,

672
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Speaker 2: really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: After the break, Can I just mention some great man,

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Speaker 3: jaredy Yeah, fantastic call. After the break. Can I just

675
00:30:47,853 --> 00:30:49,813
Speaker 3: mention some of the things I was warned about by

676
00:30:49,893 --> 00:30:51,893
Speaker 3: very negative people before I moved to Auckland. I just

677
00:30:51,933 --> 00:30:54,093
Speaker 3: want to go through them one by one and just

678
00:30:54,173 --> 00:30:56,333
Speaker 3: push back on some of those warnings. I'll do that

679
00:30:56,453 --> 00:30:57,013
Speaker 3: after the break.

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Speaker 2: This text is great after you fellus loving listening to

681
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Speaker 2: you too, winding about people, windy classic key, isn't it.

682
00:31:04,053 --> 00:31:05,453
Speaker 3: It's a good take sixteen to do.

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00:31:06,493 --> 00:31:07,733
Speaker 4: The issues that affect you.

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Speaker 1: A bit of fun along the way, mad Heath and

685
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Speaker 1: Tyler Adams afternoons news.

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Speaker 3: Talk said, be very good afternoons you fourteen to two

687
00:31:16,333 --> 00:31:19,373
Speaker 3: so quickly. Before I moved up to this beautiful city

688
00:31:19,493 --> 00:31:21,733
Speaker 3: of Auckland, here are some of the things people said

689
00:31:21,733 --> 00:31:24,053
Speaker 3: to me. Said that They said, the traffic is horrendous,

690
00:31:24,133 --> 00:31:26,773
Speaker 3: You're gonna hate it, not so bad? Not so bad?

691
00:31:26,853 --> 00:31:29,213
Speaker 3: Can beared to christ she's stuck in traffic, takes about

692
00:31:29,373 --> 00:31:32,173
Speaker 3: twenty minutes from where I lived into the CBD, about

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Speaker 3: the same time in Auckland.

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Speaker 4: Not that bad.

695
00:31:33,773 --> 00:31:36,413
Speaker 3: That's only really bad in Rushia. Yeah, exactly.

696
00:31:36,933 --> 00:31:39,853
Speaker 2: And listen to listen to the radio, spend some time

697
00:31:39,893 --> 00:31:41,413
Speaker 2: in your car. You know, there's lots you can do.

698
00:31:41,973 --> 00:31:42,933
Speaker 2: Bring your parents.

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00:31:42,773 --> 00:31:46,573
Speaker 3: Exactly, it's free time. Enjoy It rains a lot, yes,

700
00:31:46,653 --> 00:31:48,813
Speaker 3: but it also is very sunny up here as well.

701
00:31:49,093 --> 00:31:50,693
Speaker 3: The great thing I love, and I've said this to you,

702
00:31:50,973 --> 00:31:52,853
Speaker 3: is that if it starts to rain. Maybe today's not

703
00:31:52,893 --> 00:31:55,413
Speaker 3: a good example, but genuinely, if it starts to rain,

704
00:31:55,573 --> 00:31:57,813
Speaker 3: I know within an hour the sun's going to be

705
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Speaker 3: out again. And I freaking love that because down in

706
00:31:59,893 --> 00:32:01,493
Speaker 3: christ Use, if it starts rain and it sets in

707
00:32:01,573 --> 00:32:04,413
Speaker 3: for a week, there's people everywhere. Not true, there's a

708
00:32:04,453 --> 00:32:05,973
Speaker 3: lot of people up here, but there's a heck of

709
00:32:06,013 --> 00:32:07,973
Speaker 3: a lot of space. It's just not this whole thing

710
00:32:08,013 --> 00:32:10,493
Speaker 3: about Auckland's really overcrowded and if you like your space,

711
00:32:10,533 --> 00:32:13,613
Speaker 3: you won't find it. Nonsense, bs, there's so much space

712
00:32:13,693 --> 00:32:16,533
Speaker 3: up here. And the last one expensive wrong. It's just

713
00:32:16,613 --> 00:32:18,813
Speaker 3: as expensive in christ Church. You paid the same for

714
00:32:18,853 --> 00:32:21,213
Speaker 3: a beer up here. So there you go, there you go.

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Speaker 2: So you've been so positive since you moved up here,

716
00:32:25,013 --> 00:32:27,013
Speaker 2: and you love christ Church, I do love No One Nelson,

717
00:32:27,093 --> 00:32:29,013
Speaker 2: and you love New Zealand. Yeah, but you've been very

718
00:32:29,053 --> 00:32:31,093
Speaker 2: positive about Auckland. It's been very different than what you

719
00:32:32,253 --> 00:32:35,133
Speaker 2: thought because all you hear is Auckland is winging about

720
00:32:35,173 --> 00:32:38,773
Speaker 2: it on social media exactly, and so the story you

721
00:32:38,893 --> 00:32:41,173
Speaker 2: get and also people running it down in christ Church.

722
00:32:41,373 --> 00:32:44,413
Speaker 2: You know, you know, cantabs aren't huge Auckland fans. The

723
00:32:44,453 --> 00:32:46,573
Speaker 2: stick to says, guys, New Zealand may well be a

724
00:32:46,613 --> 00:32:48,413
Speaker 2: great place, but the problem you are missing is that

725
00:32:48,533 --> 00:32:51,413
Speaker 2: when benchmarked against what we used to have, quality of

726
00:32:51,493 --> 00:32:53,813
Speaker 2: life in terms of has deteriorated for many people, which

727
00:32:53,853 --> 00:32:56,493
Speaker 2: is why a lot of us are pessimistic. That being said,

728
00:32:56,573 --> 00:32:58,213
Speaker 2: when you can go to the kitchen, turn on a

729
00:32:58,253 --> 00:33:00,213
Speaker 2: tap and water comes out, a lot of countries would

730
00:33:00,213 --> 00:33:02,013
Speaker 2: consider us some of the richest.

731
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Speaker 3: People in the world.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you have to carry just think, you know,

733
00:33:03,813 --> 00:33:06,693
Speaker 2: when you're complaining about things, think about the huge percentage

734
00:33:06,693 --> 00:33:08,093
Speaker 2: of people in this world, humans in the world that

735
00:33:08,133 --> 00:33:11,933
Speaker 2: have to carry their water. To do their cooking and

736
00:33:12,093 --> 00:33:13,013
Speaker 2: cleaning on their.

737
00:33:12,973 --> 00:33:14,453
Speaker 3: Heads from rivers.

738
00:33:14,613 --> 00:33:16,853
Speaker 2: That is hard, yeah, but also New Zealand may well

739
00:33:16,893 --> 00:33:18,533
Speaker 2: be a great place. But the problem you were missing

740
00:33:18,653 --> 00:33:20,973
Speaker 2: is that the benchmark against which we compare it to.

741
00:33:21,053 --> 00:33:23,013
Speaker 2: Why are you comparing it to anything else?

742
00:33:23,453 --> 00:33:23,733
Speaker 5: You are?

743
00:33:23,893 --> 00:33:25,733
Speaker 2: You are, and you make it better tomorrow, So you

744
00:33:25,853 --> 00:33:30,053
Speaker 2: compare to how much better you made it today compared

745
00:33:30,093 --> 00:33:32,613
Speaker 2: to yesterday. You can always compare yourself. You always find

746
00:33:32,733 --> 00:33:35,613
Speaker 2: some time that was better, some person that's better off,

747
00:33:35,973 --> 00:33:38,813
Speaker 2: somewhere that's better. You can just spend your whole time

748
00:33:39,013 --> 00:33:41,333
Speaker 2: looking at Instagram finding a million things that were better.

749
00:33:41,933 --> 00:33:44,133
Speaker 2: You can listen to stories people talking about how amazing

750
00:33:44,173 --> 00:33:47,053
Speaker 2: it was in the eighties if you want. But you

751
00:33:47,213 --> 00:33:50,133
Speaker 2: live now in the present, So how is it now

752
00:33:50,493 --> 00:33:52,413
Speaker 2: and how can you make it better? Those are the

753
00:33:52,493 --> 00:33:53,693
Speaker 2: only questions you need to ask.

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Speaker 5: Bruce, you disagree, Yeah, it's interesting. I'm sort of a

755
00:34:00,333 --> 00:34:03,733
Speaker 5: boomer from back in the day, and I was born

756
00:34:03,773 --> 00:34:08,453
Speaker 5: in the fifties and Auckland. Once upon a time, on

757
00:34:08,533 --> 00:34:10,413
Speaker 5: Friday night you could go up, but you could start

758
00:34:10,413 --> 00:34:13,692
Speaker 5: at Craang Happy Road, the Pink Pussycat, and you could

759
00:34:13,773 --> 00:34:16,813
Speaker 5: make your way down along Craanghappy Road and it was vibrant.

760
00:34:16,853 --> 00:34:20,653
Speaker 18: There was big department stores that are open. There was

761
00:34:20,733 --> 00:34:23,813
Speaker 18: people outside porters, there was people in the lifts working

762
00:34:24,013 --> 00:34:24,653
Speaker 18: with gloves.

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00:34:25,173 --> 00:34:27,373
Speaker 19: You'd catch a bus, you go down to Queen Street

764
00:34:28,213 --> 00:34:30,973
Speaker 19: and Friday it was just like an English high and.

765
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Speaker 18: Upper High Street.

766
00:34:32,053 --> 00:34:36,293
Speaker 19: It was just people of my generation will know exactly

767
00:34:36,373 --> 00:34:38,652
Speaker 19: what I'm talking about what Auckland was like.

768
00:34:40,373 --> 00:34:41,493
Speaker 8: Back in those days.

769
00:34:41,493 --> 00:34:42,733
Speaker 5: You know, the Auckland we grew.

770
00:34:42,693 --> 00:34:45,293
Speaker 19: Up and we could get a bus to sixpence from

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00:34:45,373 --> 00:34:49,933
Speaker 19: the suburb Mount Albert, Sandringham wherever, and we could.

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00:34:49,813 --> 00:34:51,453
Speaker 18: Have a wonderful evening in Auckland.

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00:34:51,973 --> 00:34:55,693
Speaker 19: I think you're going to get pushed back from people

774
00:34:55,773 --> 00:34:59,013
Speaker 19: that knew what it once was like to what it's

775
00:34:59,173 --> 00:35:04,573
Speaker 19: like today, and that's what we compare Auckland like. But

776
00:35:05,013 --> 00:35:07,773
Speaker 19: for myself, I came back to New Zealand and twenty

777
00:35:07,853 --> 00:35:11,172
Speaker 19: twenty five. I've been overseas for about forty years after

778
00:35:11,893 --> 00:35:14,333
Speaker 19: being one of the Boomer's privileged to get a world

779
00:35:14,413 --> 00:35:19,733
Speaker 19: class free education, and I was actually heartbroken.

780
00:35:20,093 --> 00:35:23,893
Speaker 18: To what I sought what had happened to Auckland.

781
00:35:23,973 --> 00:35:27,133
Speaker 19: Downtown Auckland, you know, the central post Office was just

782
00:35:27,213 --> 00:35:33,773
Speaker 19: an iconic building Smith and Coey's those you know, all

783
00:35:33,853 --> 00:35:36,733
Speaker 19: those wonderful department stores, the picture theaters.

784
00:35:37,613 --> 00:35:39,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you worry that?

785
00:35:39,133 --> 00:35:39,693
Speaker 20: Do you worry that?

786
00:35:40,053 --> 00:35:40,533
Speaker 3: Do you worry that?

787
00:35:40,613 --> 00:35:43,133
Speaker 2: This is this is rose colored spectacles, because you know

788
00:35:43,413 --> 00:35:46,533
Speaker 2: that the brainy, that's the bad bits out and nostalgia

789
00:35:46,613 --> 00:35:49,013
Speaker 2: boost your mood when you look back, and you know,

790
00:35:49,133 --> 00:35:52,333
Speaker 2: and the past feels really simple because you can press

791
00:35:52,373 --> 00:35:53,733
Speaker 2: it and you don't have to control it. But the

792
00:35:53,813 --> 00:35:57,013
Speaker 2: present feels chaotic because things are changing all the time.

793
00:35:57,853 --> 00:36:01,613
Speaker 2: So because because like just just I was just finished, Sorry, Bruce,

794
00:36:03,173 --> 00:36:05,613
Speaker 2: all right, this is this this book I read and

795
00:36:05,733 --> 00:36:07,333
Speaker 2: it was it was when the Rolling Stones came to

796
00:36:07,373 --> 00:36:10,133
Speaker 2: New Zealand in the ninety six and they could not

797
00:36:10,253 --> 00:36:13,293
Speaker 2: believe how boring it was. There was nothing open, there

798
00:36:13,373 --> 00:36:15,133
Speaker 2: was nothing to do. They were getting hassled on the

799
00:36:15,173 --> 00:36:18,693
Speaker 2: street for having long here. They were cold in their

800
00:36:18,773 --> 00:36:21,173
Speaker 2: hotel and they went up to the person at the

801
00:36:21,293 --> 00:36:23,173
Speaker 2: reception at the hotel and he.

802
00:36:23,213 --> 00:36:24,693
Speaker 3: Said, put a bloody jersey on.

803
00:36:25,693 --> 00:36:27,853
Speaker 2: So you know, when the Rolling Stones look back on

804
00:36:27,893 --> 00:36:31,413
Speaker 2: New Zealand, I mean Keith rich is famously called Vicargoy

805
00:36:31,453 --> 00:36:34,013
Speaker 2: aarshole of the world. Do you see what I mean,

806
00:36:34,653 --> 00:36:36,853
Speaker 2: the fifties may seem amazing in some ways, but in

807
00:36:36,853 --> 00:36:38,333
Speaker 2: a lot of ways it was.

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00:36:38,693 --> 00:36:43,533
Speaker 3: It was a was arguably boring. There wasn't the excitement.

809
00:36:43,573 --> 00:36:45,333
Speaker 3: There wasn't the variation of things to do.

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00:36:48,133 --> 00:36:50,453
Speaker 19: Yeah, those of us that lived here, you know, I

811
00:36:50,533 --> 00:36:53,213
Speaker 19: remember Frank Sinatra coming here and saying I went to

812
00:36:53,253 --> 00:36:54,253
Speaker 19: New Zealand once.

813
00:36:54,933 --> 00:36:56,333
Speaker 21: But it was closed.

814
00:36:58,573 --> 00:36:59,292
Speaker 3: A good line.

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00:37:03,133 --> 00:37:03,253
Speaker 4: You know.

816
00:37:04,013 --> 00:37:04,772
Speaker 8: We lived here.

817
00:37:04,893 --> 00:37:06,213
Speaker 18: You know, we loved our rugby.

818
00:37:06,333 --> 00:37:09,453
Speaker 8: We had the ram fairly sp we had the cricket

819
00:37:09,613 --> 00:37:13,093
Speaker 8: we had we had our media sports. We had free education,

820
00:37:13,333 --> 00:37:17,933
Speaker 8: free hospitals, we got a child welfare stubsidy. And I

821
00:37:18,013 --> 00:37:20,453
Speaker 8: think when when the thing that struck me when I

822
00:37:20,573 --> 00:37:22,453
Speaker 8: came back, and I've been living in quite a few

823
00:37:22,493 --> 00:37:25,173
Speaker 8: working in quite a few countries around the world. The

824
00:37:25,293 --> 00:37:28,213
Speaker 8: only thing I had the nostalgia, as you mentioned, but

825
00:37:28,613 --> 00:37:32,772
Speaker 8: I had comparisons to living and working in other big

826
00:37:32,893 --> 00:37:39,373
Speaker 8: cities like Auckland and Auckland. Unfortunately, I believe really missed

827
00:37:39,413 --> 00:37:39,772
Speaker 8: the bath.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well sorry, Bryce, We've got to go to a

829
00:37:43,493 --> 00:37:45,853
Speaker 3: an ad break here. But yeah, thank you so much

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00:37:45,853 --> 00:37:48,093
Speaker 3: for you car appreciate it. Yep, good on you is

831
00:37:48,253 --> 00:37:50,133
Speaker 3: seven minutes to two bag Ru shurely o e. One

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number to call.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath Tylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

834
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Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams

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Speaker 1: Afternoons news Dogs.

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Speaker 3: The news Dogs there be. It is four to two

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Speaker 3: brilliant discussion.

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00:38:06,293 --> 00:38:10,093
Speaker 2: I have half a glass half full attitude and tend

839
00:38:10,093 --> 00:38:12,293
Speaker 2: to avoid negative people. Ended up divorcing the ex husband

840
00:38:12,293 --> 00:38:15,613
Speaker 2: because of his seemingly endless negativity. Fifteen years later and

841
00:38:15,733 --> 00:38:17,652
Speaker 2: he's still complaining about me leaving him.

842
00:38:18,493 --> 00:38:20,893
Speaker 3: Good move. I think, all right, we're going to keep

843
00:38:20,933 --> 00:38:23,173
Speaker 3: this going because it's a great discussion. A lot of

844
00:38:23,173 --> 00:38:24,893
Speaker 3: people want to have their say, but it's still keen

845
00:38:24,973 --> 00:38:27,533
Speaker 3: to hear from you. Oh wait, hundred eighty ten eighty.

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00:38:27,973 --> 00:38:31,053
Speaker 2: Is it time to change the narrative in New Zealand

847
00:38:31,133 --> 00:38:33,533
Speaker 2: to something more positive so we can get some stuff done?

848
00:38:33,933 --> 00:38:35,893
Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text New Sport and

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00:38:35,973 --> 00:38:38,053
Speaker 3: Weather or on. It's way great to have your company

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00:38:38,093 --> 00:38:40,133
Speaker 3: on this Wednesday afternoon. Stay right here, will be back

851
00:38:40,213 --> 00:38:41,613
Speaker 3: soon some.

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00:38:43,173 --> 00:38:47,293
Speaker 4: Middle little.

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Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathan Taylor Adams

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Speaker 1: Afternoons News Talk zid Bey.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you, Welcome back into the program.

856
00:39:00,333 --> 00:39:03,053
Speaker 3: Seven past too. So we're talking about is there a

857
00:39:03,093 --> 00:39:05,613
Speaker 3: negativity bias in New Zealand's on the back of an

858
00:39:05,653 --> 00:39:08,533
Speaker 3: opinion piece by Rupert Hodson. He's the executive to Victor

859
00:39:08,573 --> 00:39:11,013
Speaker 3: of the Committee for Auckland, so he has argued that

860
00:39:11,093 --> 00:39:14,453
Speaker 3: Auckland story is vital for this country. But over and

861
00:39:14,573 --> 00:39:17,533
Speaker 3: over again the headlines and public conversation paints a picture

862
00:39:17,573 --> 00:39:21,933
Speaker 3: of decline, rising crime, gridlock, delayed infrastructure, increasing costs. Is

863
00:39:22,053 --> 00:39:24,413
Speaker 3: this a problem worth a lot of the country right

864
00:39:24,453 --> 00:39:26,133
Speaker 3: now that we seem to want to focus on the

865
00:39:26,213 --> 00:39:28,853
Speaker 3: negatives when there are a whole bunch of positives.

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00:39:29,733 --> 00:39:31,533
Speaker 2: It definitely seems that way to me. I feel like

867
00:39:31,613 --> 00:39:34,013
Speaker 2: the amount of complaining we get in New Zealand, in

868
00:39:35,373 --> 00:39:39,652
Speaker 2: the whole of New Zealand and Auckland particularly is disproportionate

869
00:39:39,773 --> 00:39:44,013
Speaker 2: for the fantastic lifestyle that we get and people from

870
00:39:44,093 --> 00:39:46,813
Speaker 2: overseas come here and point it out to us, but

871
00:39:46,893 --> 00:39:50,013
Speaker 2: we don't believe them. Like this texture on from Brazil

872
00:39:50,133 --> 00:39:51,813
Speaker 2: and feel really blessed to be able to live in

873
00:39:51,813 --> 00:39:53,813
Speaker 2: New Zealand. People need to travel more and not take

874
00:39:53,853 --> 00:39:56,893
Speaker 2: for granted this beautiful country. Brazil is also beautiful, but

875
00:39:56,973 --> 00:39:59,133
Speaker 2: it is full of homeless, not only on the CBD

876
00:39:59,253 --> 00:40:03,373
Speaker 2: but all over the place. Violence, robbery, corruption, poverty, the

877
00:40:03,453 --> 00:40:05,173
Speaker 2: list goes on. In New Zealand, you can leave your

878
00:40:05,213 --> 00:40:07,692
Speaker 2: car unlocked, your house unlocked, and most probably nothing will happen.

879
00:40:08,333 --> 00:40:10,573
Speaker 2: Don't even think about doing that in Brazil. The houses

880
00:40:10,693 --> 00:40:14,493
Speaker 2: in Brazil are like jails with high fences, electric fences, alarms.

881
00:40:14,573 --> 00:40:17,813
Speaker 2: You need to be armed, be more grateful. People of

882
00:40:18,053 --> 00:40:19,093
Speaker 2: New Zealand.

883
00:40:19,093 --> 00:40:21,133
Speaker 3: Puts things into perspectives, doesn't it. And I'll tell you

884
00:40:21,213 --> 00:40:23,733
Speaker 3: what when if you see people talking about New Zealand

885
00:40:23,813 --> 00:40:27,733
Speaker 3: and online forums, they talk us up something amazing and

886
00:40:27,733 --> 00:40:30,692
Speaker 3: it makes you pretty proud. But then you get into

887
00:40:30,733 --> 00:40:32,893
Speaker 3: New Zealand and the people that live here just run

888
00:40:32,933 --> 00:40:34,733
Speaker 3: it down. I mean, if those people come to this

889
00:40:34,813 --> 00:40:36,732
Speaker 3: country and realize how much we run it down, they'd

890
00:40:36,773 --> 00:40:38,973
Speaker 3: be like, what are you doing? This is beautiful, Mary says.

891
00:40:39,013 --> 00:40:41,093
Speaker 2: Auckland is the largest city in the country, so of

892
00:40:41,173 --> 00:40:43,733
Speaker 2: course it has more people, traffic, and of course opportunities.

893
00:40:43,773 --> 00:40:45,733
Speaker 2: It's a growing city, not a sleepy little town. It's

894
00:40:45,813 --> 00:40:48,893
Speaker 2: vibrant with diversity, beautiful beaches to choose from, not just

895
00:40:48,973 --> 00:40:52,533
Speaker 2: one that would be horribly crowded. Stop constantly comparing it.

896
00:40:52,773 --> 00:40:56,373
Speaker 2: It's Auckland, a unique, attractive, vibrant, growing and developing city.

897
00:40:56,413 --> 00:40:59,173
Speaker 2: And of course it's changed. It's called growth and development.

898
00:40:59,413 --> 00:41:01,693
Speaker 2: Take a hike and move on if you can't handle

899
00:41:01,733 --> 00:41:03,093
Speaker 2: it and appreciate it.

900
00:41:03,253 --> 00:41:05,252
Speaker 3: What about this one? This is a classic text.

901
00:41:06,013 --> 00:41:08,173
Speaker 2: Easy to have a positive attitude when you don't have

902
00:41:08,413 --> 00:41:11,093
Speaker 2: to work two jobs to cover rent and bugger all else,

903
00:41:11,493 --> 00:41:13,493
Speaker 2: when you can walk your dog or even afford to

904
00:41:13,573 --> 00:41:16,213
Speaker 2: feed one. Easy to say to be positive? Not easy

905
00:41:16,293 --> 00:41:19,413
Speaker 2: at all, not easy for all, Matt. Easy to say

906
00:41:20,013 --> 00:41:22,373
Speaker 2: anyone can say that, easy to say this, so easy

907
00:41:22,413 --> 00:41:25,413
Speaker 2: to say that. I mean, ninety percent of the world's

908
00:41:25,453 --> 00:41:28,373
Speaker 2: population could say to Matt. Easy to say to you, easy,

909
00:41:28,493 --> 00:41:30,933
Speaker 2: just well, good that you've got two jobs. Yeah, you're

910
00:41:30,973 --> 00:41:33,453
Speaker 2: lucky to have them. Gratitude is a beautiful thing, mattes.

911
00:41:33,693 --> 00:41:36,613
Speaker 2: It's like this text here. I leave home at six

912
00:41:36,773 --> 00:41:40,333
Speaker 2: fifteen am. I travel fifty six kilometer morning and afternoon.

913
00:41:40,413 --> 00:41:43,133
Speaker 2: My average speed is eighteen kilometers per hour. Average time

914
00:41:43,173 --> 00:41:45,652
Speaker 2: on road pull day three plus hours, only twenty eight

915
00:41:45,773 --> 00:41:48,893
Speaker 2: kilometers one way. Great to have legs and eyes and

916
00:41:49,013 --> 00:41:52,893
Speaker 2: a car, and the ability to text and think and

917
00:41:53,053 --> 00:41:55,653
Speaker 2: do and add up the numbers to send in this

918
00:41:55,813 --> 00:41:58,172
Speaker 2: text with the exact kilometers you travel and the speed

919
00:41:58,213 --> 00:42:00,173
Speaker 2: you travel in so many blessings.

920
00:42:00,573 --> 00:42:03,053
Speaker 3: Eighty percent, no, ninety nine percent of the world would

921
00:42:03,053 --> 00:42:05,373
Speaker 3: look at that and say, You've won the lottery of life,

922
00:42:05,573 --> 00:42:06,093
Speaker 3: Dear Texter.

923
00:42:06,893 --> 00:42:09,453
Speaker 2: Shirley Auckland is also the most joseph city in the country.

924
00:42:09,653 --> 00:42:11,573
Speaker 2: Because of the large amount of people and the big

925
00:42:11,653 --> 00:42:15,533
Speaker 2: mixtures of culture. There is less sexism and homophobia than

926
00:42:15,573 --> 00:42:18,133
Speaker 2: your average small town. Where else are you going to

927
00:42:18,213 --> 00:42:19,933
Speaker 2: see Harry Christna's on a Friday night?

928
00:42:20,173 --> 00:42:22,133
Speaker 3: It's a good point. Where do you see the hid Christians?

929
00:42:22,813 --> 00:42:24,373
Speaker 2: I haven't seen Harry Christmas in ages.

930
00:42:24,453 --> 00:42:25,453
Speaker 3: It's amazing to see them.

931
00:42:25,613 --> 00:42:27,173
Speaker 2: I remember when I had no money at all and

932
00:42:27,253 --> 00:42:29,652
Speaker 2: I was stuck in christ Church, like, no money to eat,

933
00:42:30,013 --> 00:42:32,413
Speaker 2: and I was sort of basically living out the back

934
00:42:32,453 --> 00:42:33,093
Speaker 2: of someone's house.

935
00:42:34,093 --> 00:42:38,093
Speaker 3: The Harry Christmas would feed me in the park. Nice, horrible.

936
00:42:38,693 --> 00:42:40,133
Speaker 2: I was happy to get it, but yeah, some kind

937
00:42:40,133 --> 00:42:41,893
Speaker 2: of horrible sweet slap.

938
00:42:42,093 --> 00:42:44,333
Speaker 3: The vegetarians, aren't they? I think they have to be? Yeah,

939
00:42:44,693 --> 00:42:46,692
Speaker 3: I said out threw it back in their face. How

940
00:42:46,813 --> 00:42:51,573
Speaker 3: dare you? Yeah, free lunch? How dare you Mikey? Is

941
00:42:51,613 --> 00:42:53,773
Speaker 3: it Mikey or Mickey Mickey?

942
00:42:53,933 --> 00:42:56,333
Speaker 2: Oh hey, Mickey, welcome to the show. Thanks for calling in.

943
00:42:57,613 --> 00:42:57,933
Speaker 9: Thank you.

944
00:42:58,613 --> 00:43:00,973
Speaker 17: Look, I've been listening to all of this. I'm I'm

945
00:43:01,053 --> 00:43:05,333
Speaker 17: a boomer, retired and I have nothing to complain about.

946
00:43:05,813 --> 00:43:08,453
Speaker 17: But over the last three decades of most of the

947
00:43:08,533 --> 00:43:12,533
Speaker 17: time in Brisbane, and I can say that coming back

948
00:43:12,573 --> 00:43:16,813
Speaker 17: here six and a half years ago, I was depressed

949
00:43:16,973 --> 00:43:21,533
Speaker 17: with the negativity. If you go, for example, down Queen

950
00:43:21,613 --> 00:43:24,692
Speaker 17: Street and Brisbane, it's clean, there's police on the beat,

951
00:43:25,093 --> 00:43:27,893
Speaker 17: all the shops are shining, it's a pleasant place to be.

952
00:43:28,533 --> 00:43:33,773
Speaker 17: Queen Street here is well, it's disgusting. And when you

953
00:43:33,893 --> 00:43:36,093
Speaker 17: think all those cruise ships come in here and all

954
00:43:36,173 --> 00:43:38,453
Speaker 17: these people get off and walk up Queen Street and

955
00:43:38,533 --> 00:43:42,413
Speaker 17: there's vomits and everything else on the street, I think

956
00:43:42,493 --> 00:43:43,453
Speaker 17: that is a disgrace.

957
00:43:43,573 --> 00:43:45,373
Speaker 4: How have you spent some.

958
00:43:45,453 --> 00:43:47,613
Speaker 2: Time down in Commercial Bay and around Britain mart at

959
00:43:47,653 --> 00:43:49,053
Speaker 2: the moment. I was just down there the other day.

960
00:43:49,893 --> 00:43:54,613
Speaker 17: Actually, Commercial Bay and Britain are fantastic, and that's that's.

961
00:43:54,453 --> 00:43:57,573
Speaker 2: Where they go, that whole area right up, I would say,

962
00:43:57,933 --> 00:43:59,733
Speaker 2: you know, and it's obviously going to get better. But

963
00:44:00,573 --> 00:44:03,613
Speaker 2: there's quite a bit area to lower Queen Street that

964
00:44:03,933 --> 00:44:05,772
Speaker 2: is pretty nice. I mean, if you're getting off a ship,

965
00:44:05,773 --> 00:44:07,093
Speaker 2: it looks pretty international down there.

966
00:44:07,733 --> 00:44:11,813
Speaker 17: Wells Untriul you walk up Queen Street, though, but you

967
00:44:11,933 --> 00:44:14,413
Speaker 17: know he is hoping. I hear the Prime Minister is

968
00:44:14,453 --> 00:44:17,173
Speaker 17: going to do something to clean it up. But getting

969
00:44:17,213 --> 00:44:20,813
Speaker 17: on with your subject. I get sick of the tall

970
00:44:20,893 --> 00:44:23,533
Speaker 17: poppy syndrome. I'm sick to death.

971
00:44:23,373 --> 00:44:24,173
Speaker 22: Of the moaners.

972
00:44:24,773 --> 00:44:27,093
Speaker 17: And I'm always wondering what was different when I was

973
00:44:27,173 --> 00:44:30,252
Speaker 17: brought up here. And the only thing I can think

974
00:44:30,293 --> 00:44:34,013
Speaker 17: of with two things. One was discipline and secondly, there

975
00:44:34,133 --> 00:44:37,253
Speaker 17: was no welfare. And if you wanted to get ahead

976
00:44:37,293 --> 00:44:39,213
Speaker 17: in life, you had to get out there and grind

977
00:44:39,493 --> 00:44:42,732
Speaker 17: and work two jobs. And I know that my late

978
00:44:42,853 --> 00:44:45,933
Speaker 17: husband also, he was working three jobs at a time.

979
00:44:46,013 --> 00:44:49,733
Speaker 17: We never moaned because that's how you got ahead. And

980
00:44:50,253 --> 00:44:54,252
Speaker 17: if people would stop criticizing, we'd live in the most

981
00:44:54,253 --> 00:44:56,933
Speaker 17: beautiful country in the world. I live up near the

982
00:44:57,013 --> 00:44:59,293
Speaker 17: beach or on the beach at Manly, and you know

983
00:44:59,373 --> 00:45:01,533
Speaker 17: there are hundreds of dogs that walk along that beach

984
00:45:01,613 --> 00:45:04,813
Speaker 17: every day. How lucky are we to be able to

985
00:45:04,893 --> 00:45:05,133
Speaker 17: do that.

986
00:45:05,613 --> 00:45:06,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fantastic. I'm with you.

987
00:45:07,173 --> 00:45:09,652
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, if you've got a dog in New

988
00:45:09,733 --> 00:45:13,813
Speaker 2: Zealand and Auckland, particularly any part of New Zealand, then

989
00:45:13,893 --> 00:45:16,493
Speaker 2: you see such incredible parts of the city. I think

990
00:45:16,493 --> 00:45:18,973
Speaker 2: it's impossible if you get on a Saturday morning and

991
00:45:19,213 --> 00:45:23,453
Speaker 2: walk your dog in any number of places, so many

992
00:45:23,493 --> 00:45:26,613
Speaker 2: of them up Mount Eden, Mount Albert, Mount Albert's lovely

993
00:45:27,133 --> 00:45:32,893
Speaker 2: big king with that male reserve. It's just incredible beauty.

994
00:45:33,133 --> 00:45:35,493
Speaker 2: You got to Takapuna Beach, any number of beaches, go

995
00:45:35,573 --> 00:45:38,733
Speaker 2: at to Piha for nothing, yep, for nothing. You can

996
00:45:38,853 --> 00:45:42,693
Speaker 2: have You can have what people would fly across the

997
00:45:42,773 --> 00:45:47,053
Speaker 2: world to experience. Yeah, exactly, But don disagrees. Hey, shovel

998
00:45:47,093 --> 00:45:49,652
Speaker 2: your positivity. Both of you are probably silver spoon fed.

999
00:45:49,893 --> 00:45:53,773
Speaker 2: This economy sucks, does it, Dion? Oh, the economy sas.

1000
00:45:53,853 --> 00:45:57,453
Speaker 2: We'll sort it out, buddy, Yeah, and no neither of

1001
00:45:57,573 --> 00:45:58,373
Speaker 2: us are silver.

1002
00:45:58,213 --> 00:46:01,813
Speaker 3: Spoon Sorry, Dion, fight for it, man, like, don't just

1003
00:46:01,973 --> 00:46:04,653
Speaker 3: roll over and sem to do hard, Get up and

1004
00:46:04,733 --> 00:46:08,253
Speaker 3: do something your booby. Oh eight one hundred eighty ten

1005
00:46:08,693 --> 00:46:10,013
Speaker 3: is the number to called. Come on, guys.

1006
00:46:10,053 --> 00:46:12,613
Speaker 2: People are comparing living expenses, traffic and other negative stuff.

1007
00:46:12,613 --> 00:46:14,573
Speaker 2: But the two of you should not be dismissing everyone's

1008
00:46:14,573 --> 00:46:17,173
Speaker 2: complaints so easily by saying, oh, be happy, you're alive

1009
00:46:17,533 --> 00:46:19,453
Speaker 2: and you have two legs and eyes. That's something else.

1010
00:46:19,533 --> 00:46:22,853
Speaker 2: You're comparing apples to fruit seller. No, absolutely, you can

1011
00:46:22,893 --> 00:46:25,613
Speaker 2: always compare yourself to someone better and someone worse. So

1012
00:46:26,133 --> 00:46:28,453
Speaker 2: if you're sitting in a car and you're complaining about life,

1013
00:46:28,613 --> 00:46:30,093
Speaker 2: just think, well, I live in a time when I

1014
00:46:30,133 --> 00:46:30,893
Speaker 2: can drive a car.

1015
00:46:31,173 --> 00:46:31,373
Speaker 4: Yep.

1016
00:46:31,693 --> 00:46:31,933
Speaker 3: Wow.

1017
00:46:32,053 --> 00:46:33,893
Speaker 2: If you've got two jobs, you go, wow, I managed

1018
00:46:33,893 --> 00:46:34,613
Speaker 2: to find two jobs.

1019
00:46:34,653 --> 00:46:37,212
Speaker 3: I mean, you can. You can tell a different narrative.

1020
00:46:36,933 --> 00:46:39,213
Speaker 2: On even any situation. Yeah, I mean you could be

1021
00:46:39,253 --> 00:46:41,893
Speaker 2: starving on the streets. You could lose your eyesight, there's

1022
00:46:42,373 --> 00:46:44,013
Speaker 2: you know, you could you could have no legs.

1023
00:46:44,453 --> 00:46:44,613
Speaker 5: Yep.

1024
00:46:45,093 --> 00:46:48,133
Speaker 3: It sounds nef but I do this generally as I

1025
00:46:48,213 --> 00:46:50,253
Speaker 3: wake up and I write three things that I'm grateful for,

1026
00:46:50,373 --> 00:46:52,453
Speaker 3: and there's there's a bucket load that I should be

1027
00:46:52,533 --> 00:46:55,213
Speaker 3: grateful for, but there's a game changer. You start the

1028
00:46:55,293 --> 00:46:57,613
Speaker 3: day and actually, I'm grateful for a lot of things

1029
00:46:57,653 --> 00:47:00,173
Speaker 3: about my life and live in this country. Instead of

1030
00:47:00,333 --> 00:47:02,773
Speaker 3: waking up and thinking, oh, my life sucks. But what

1031
00:47:02,853 --> 00:47:04,933
Speaker 3: do you say, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

1032
00:47:05,013 --> 00:47:05,813
Speaker 3: the number to call.

1033
00:47:05,893 --> 00:47:10,212
Speaker 1: It is a quarterbas doo wow your home of afternoon talk,

1034
00:47:10,413 --> 00:47:14,212
Speaker 1: Mad Heathen Taylor Adams. Afternoons call Oh, eight hundred eighty

1035
00:47:14,293 --> 00:47:15,853
Speaker 1: ten eighty youth talk said, be.

1036
00:47:18,053 --> 00:47:22,493
Speaker 3: For a good afternoons. You're seventeen past two, Dion, who.

1037
00:47:22,373 --> 00:47:25,373
Speaker 2: I just belittled on you. It's not nice to me,

1038
00:47:25,453 --> 00:47:27,133
Speaker 2: he says, I'm changing radio stations.

1039
00:47:27,213 --> 00:47:29,293
Speaker 3: You two blow. I just like to say, Dian, I

1040
00:47:29,373 --> 00:47:31,893
Speaker 3: love you. But you know you'll be back. Yeah, you'll

1041
00:47:31,893 --> 00:47:32,253
Speaker 3: be back man.

1042
00:47:32,293 --> 00:47:33,773
Speaker 2: In fact, you having had left, we know that you're

1043
00:47:33,773 --> 00:47:34,253
Speaker 2: still listening.

1044
00:47:34,333 --> 00:47:36,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, we love you, Dion. Keep fighting, man, You've got

1045
00:47:36,373 --> 00:47:37,933
Speaker 3: to fight. See at the top of that hill. But

1046
00:47:38,613 --> 00:47:40,773
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, you'll be back. Yeah, you'll be Ben.

1047
00:47:40,893 --> 00:47:45,173
Speaker 2: I'm not worried at all about you not being back, buddy, Paul,

1048
00:47:45,733 --> 00:47:46,453
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

1049
00:47:48,053 --> 00:47:51,893
Speaker 20: Howdy. So I love going out to our beautiful West

1050
00:47:51,973 --> 00:47:54,772
Speaker 20: Coast beaches. I'm going out there all the times life.

1051
00:47:55,373 --> 00:47:59,173
Speaker 20: You know, bet Doll's peh carry carry, And it's just

1052
00:47:59,293 --> 00:48:01,413
Speaker 20: amazing to me that you can go out there. I've

1053
00:48:01,413 --> 00:48:04,573
Speaker 20: been out there, you know, on a beautiful summer day

1054
00:48:05,373 --> 00:48:07,212
Speaker 20: and there's virtually no one there.

1055
00:48:07,333 --> 00:48:11,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's incredible, it's it's just it's just stunning.

1056
00:48:12,813 --> 00:48:16,973
Speaker 20: Anywhere else in the world, those beaches would be packed. So,

1057
00:48:17,253 --> 00:48:20,093
Speaker 20: you know, I'm very, very grateful for that. But having

1058
00:48:20,173 --> 00:48:24,093
Speaker 20: said that, you know, without being too critical, I'd say

1059
00:48:24,173 --> 00:48:28,373
Speaker 20: I do detect a sense of what you might call

1060
00:48:28,693 --> 00:48:29,573
Speaker 20: white privilege.

1061
00:48:30,453 --> 00:48:34,093
Speaker 2: And some of your statements, well, would race, why would

1062
00:48:34,173 --> 00:48:36,893
Speaker 2: race have absolutely anything to do with being positive or

1063
00:48:36,893 --> 00:48:40,333
Speaker 2: negative about something. I mean, all races can be positive

1064
00:48:40,413 --> 00:48:40,893
Speaker 2: or negative.

1065
00:48:41,973 --> 00:48:44,893
Speaker 20: Okay, well, there's this this move of white vis state privilege.

1066
00:48:46,373 --> 00:48:51,453
Speaker 20: You know, would you be you know, so upbeaten happy

1067
00:48:51,493 --> 00:48:55,333
Speaker 20: about it if you're you know, pragering out how you're

1068
00:48:55,373 --> 00:49:01,133
Speaker 20: going to pay the rates or sapigia kids. Probably not.

1069
00:49:01,493 --> 00:49:05,333
Speaker 5: You know, it's just a little bit of well maybe,

1070
00:49:05,413 --> 00:49:06,973
Speaker 5: but that's not the question.

1071
00:49:07,053 --> 00:49:07,413
Speaker 3: There's not that.

1072
00:49:07,653 --> 00:49:10,453
Speaker 2: We're not saying that there's nothing wrong and that's not challenges.

1073
00:49:10,533 --> 00:49:14,533
Speaker 2: We're saying that the negativity is just proportionate for the

1074
00:49:14,653 --> 00:49:16,173
Speaker 2: actual situation on the ground.

1075
00:49:16,893 --> 00:49:17,893
Speaker 3: And look, you.

1076
00:49:21,213 --> 00:49:23,853
Speaker 2: Get a narrative, right, And so in any city and

1077
00:49:23,973 --> 00:49:27,453
Speaker 2: any time anywhere in the world, there has been challenges

1078
00:49:27,533 --> 00:49:31,053
Speaker 2: for some. Sometimes the challenges are bigger. Sometimes they're less right.

1079
00:49:31,253 --> 00:49:33,093
Speaker 2: There's always going to be challenges, and we can always

1080
00:49:33,173 --> 00:49:35,573
Speaker 2: really concentrate on how hard it is, and maybe and

1081
00:49:35,693 --> 00:49:38,533
Speaker 2: we can concentrate that some people are struggling, and let's

1082
00:49:38,573 --> 00:49:40,692
Speaker 2: try and make a world where be fantastic if everyone

1083
00:49:40,773 --> 00:49:42,973
Speaker 2: wasn't struggling, but they always would. But what we're really

1084
00:49:43,013 --> 00:49:46,333
Speaker 2: saying is that the narrative that's come into play is

1085
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Speaker 2: relentlessly negative, relentlessly focused on the bad stuff, never spending

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00:49:51,453 --> 00:49:54,172
Speaker 2: any time talking about the good stuff. And I think

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00:49:54,213 --> 00:49:59,013
Speaker 2: that narrative creates a cycle of downward negativity and people

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00:49:59,093 --> 00:50:01,133
Speaker 2: start to look around and think that their life is terrible.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you bring the beach. The beach is free,

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00:50:04,733 --> 00:50:07,413
Speaker 2: so you can walk along the beach and have a

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00:50:07,493 --> 00:50:09,732
Speaker 2: massive rates bill. But we do live in a city

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Speaker 2: where you're never you're not going to starve.

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Speaker 13: You know.

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Speaker 2: We have a social welfare system such that no one

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00:50:14,893 --> 00:50:17,893
Speaker 2: starves in this country, and that's something that that's good

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Speaker 2: to know.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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00:50:19,213 --> 00:50:20,933
Speaker 3: I've spent a bit of time in India.

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Speaker 2: Where people are just left literally in rubbish bins, literally

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Speaker 2: in rubbish dumps. So I thought, all I'm really saying

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00:50:29,293 --> 00:50:32,093
Speaker 2: is absolutely the challenges and I feel for all these people,

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00:50:32,213 --> 00:50:34,173
Speaker 2: and there's and there's a lot more we can do.

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Speaker 2: But the negativity cycle is not going to make the

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Speaker 2: place better, It's going to make it worse.

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Speaker 20: No, No, well, I mean it is true to say

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00:50:43,813 --> 00:50:46,893
Speaker 20: people say, you know, there's never been a better time

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Speaker 20: to be alive. And you know, you could make the

1108
00:50:50,293 --> 00:50:53,053
Speaker 20: argument that of all the humans who have ever lived

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Speaker 20: in history, you know where it makes the luckiest.

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Speaker 2: Over half of humans, over half of humans that have

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00:50:59,453 --> 00:51:02,173
Speaker 2: ever lived, didn't make it to adulthood. You know, just

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00:51:02,253 --> 00:51:04,093
Speaker 2: the fact that's right, Just the fact if you hit

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00:51:04,213 --> 00:51:07,053
Speaker 2: twenty one, then you're doing really well compared to historically

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Speaker 2: you know, human.

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Speaker 23: So that's true.

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Speaker 20: But then the other on the other side of things

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00:51:13,493 --> 00:51:16,653
Speaker 20: is that you know, a lot of people are very unhappy,

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00:51:16,773 --> 00:51:18,773
Speaker 20: like there's a loneliness epidemic.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, yeah, we lost.

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Speaker 20: The sense of community, I think is what is missing

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Speaker 20: in modern life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's part of I think that's

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Speaker 2: part of the wider problem. There's sort of a lot

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Speaker 2: of people sitting back scroll doom scrolling, firing out negativity

1125
00:51:34,133 --> 00:51:36,333
Speaker 2: into the world, when if you can actually get together

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Speaker 2: with other people to do something positive whatever, that is

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00:51:39,293 --> 00:51:42,013
Speaker 2: whether it's a you know, a club, whatever it is,

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Speaker 2: or working on approject.

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Speaker 20: That's by design. That's by design because there's algorithms, so

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Speaker 20: that's how they Yeah, yeah, that's money making.

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00:51:50,653 --> 00:51:53,053
Speaker 2: They want to own they want to own your social

1132
00:51:53,133 --> 00:51:56,893
Speaker 2: time by keeping you socializing online and separated so they

1133
00:51:56,933 --> 00:51:59,772
Speaker 2: can make money. That's that's their algorithm. Absolutely, one hundred

1134
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Speaker 2: hundred percent. But it's not good for us as people

1135
00:52:01,573 --> 00:52:03,692
Speaker 2: and it's not good for the community. Absolutely agree, Paul,

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for your call.

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00:52:04,613 --> 00:52:06,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, good call, taking your thoughts on this one. I

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00:52:06,893 --> 00:52:08,973
Speaker 3: had one hundred and eighty ten Do we have a

1139
00:52:09,053 --> 00:52:12,173
Speaker 3: negativity bias? And how do we turn it around? Nine

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Speaker 3: two is antis twenty two past two.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call, Oh, eight hundred

1142
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Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk ZIV.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon to you twenty five past two, and we've asked

1144
00:52:27,653 --> 00:52:30,213
Speaker 3: the question is there are negativity bias in New Zealand

1145
00:52:30,253 --> 00:52:32,213
Speaker 3: and if there is, how do we turn it around?

1146
00:52:32,253 --> 00:52:34,373
Speaker 3: How do we pump up our own tires and be

1147
00:52:34,533 --> 00:52:36,973
Speaker 3: proud of this country or whatever city you live in?

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00:52:36,973 --> 00:52:37,093
Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 3: What one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

1150
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Speaker 3: I think I'm trying.

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Speaker 2: I'll try and word the point I'm trying to make,

1152
00:52:42,813 --> 00:52:45,413
Speaker 2: and it's what's the author of this article again, it's

1153
00:52:45,413 --> 00:52:46,093
Speaker 2: a fantastic guard.

1154
00:52:46,293 --> 00:52:49,453
Speaker 3: Rupert's Hodson. He's the executive executive director of the Committee

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Speaker 3: for Aubland.

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Speaker 2: And I think the argument that he's basically trying to

1157
00:52:52,133 --> 00:52:56,652
Speaker 2: make as well is that narrative becomes reality. And if

1158
00:52:56,693 --> 00:52:59,093
Speaker 2: you keep repeating that a place is a no hope poolhole,

1159
00:52:59,373 --> 00:53:02,053
Speaker 2: it'll never get better. But if you if your narrative

1160
00:53:02,293 --> 00:53:05,533
Speaker 2: is we are lucky to be here, this place is amazing,

1161
00:53:05,693 --> 00:53:08,533
Speaker 2: the people are amazing, and it is worth fighting for

1162
00:53:08,733 --> 00:53:10,652
Speaker 2: every day, then things get better.

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00:53:10,813 --> 00:53:11,013
Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: So it's worth saving and it's worth fighting for.

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00:53:14,493 --> 00:53:16,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you mentioned that because I know it was

1166
00:53:17,413 --> 00:53:19,933
Speaker 3: at the end of that movie seven, great fantastic movie.

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00:53:19,973 --> 00:53:22,373
Speaker 3: But the quote is from Ernest Hemyway and I love

1168
00:53:22,413 --> 00:53:25,133
Speaker 3: the quote, and ernest Hemyway he had his problems, no

1169
00:53:25,213 --> 00:53:26,813
Speaker 3: doubt about it. But the world is a fine place

1170
00:53:27,173 --> 00:53:29,373
Speaker 3: and worth fighting for. It was used a little bit

1171
00:53:29,413 --> 00:53:32,213
Speaker 3: differently in seven, but I think Morgan Freeman said I

1172
00:53:32,293 --> 00:53:36,693
Speaker 3: agree with the second part, but absolutely, if you love something,

1173
00:53:36,733 --> 00:53:38,653
Speaker 3: you've got to fight for it, and if you believe

1174
00:53:38,733 --> 00:53:41,333
Speaker 3: in this country, then you've got to do your part

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00:53:41,453 --> 00:53:43,573
Speaker 3: to try and make it better for your situation. You

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00:53:43,653 --> 00:53:46,373
Speaker 3: can't rely on the government and other people. You've got

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00:53:46,453 --> 00:53:48,853
Speaker 3: to dig in and do what you can to make

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00:53:48,893 --> 00:53:49,773
Speaker 3: it better around you.

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00:53:50,053 --> 00:53:52,613
Speaker 2: Well, it's like what Sam Wuiz Gamgee said, defrodo right,

1180
00:53:53,653 --> 00:53:56,133
Speaker 2: there's some good in this world, mister Frodo, and it's

1181
00:53:56,213 --> 00:53:56,973
Speaker 2: worth fighting for.

1182
00:53:57,653 --> 00:54:00,373
Speaker 3: Great line, great line. Here's a smart man saying.

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00:54:00,413 --> 00:54:02,333
Speaker 2: So if that's your narrative, there's good in this world

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00:54:02,413 --> 00:54:04,293
Speaker 2: and it's worth fighting for. There's good in this country,

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00:54:04,333 --> 00:54:06,692
Speaker 2: and it's worth fighting for. It's good in this city

1186
00:54:06,853 --> 00:54:09,253
Speaker 2: or wherever the city are, whatever town there was fighting

1187
00:54:09,293 --> 00:54:10,933
Speaker 2: for is a lot better narrative than.

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00:54:12,693 --> 00:54:16,013
Speaker 3: This place blows more lifestyle, it's just getting worse. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: five for it. Someone else has got more than me, Sheila,

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Speaker 3: You reckon Auckland's pretty awesome.

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00:54:23,093 --> 00:54:23,693
Speaker 24: I do, I do.

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00:54:23,933 --> 00:54:27,613
Speaker 25: I don't live in the city, but I love going there.

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00:54:27,693 --> 00:54:30,893
Speaker 25: I've got someone in Belmont on the shore. I just

1194
00:54:30,933 --> 00:54:33,133
Speaker 25: think you guys are so lucky having a lot of

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00:54:33,173 --> 00:54:35,613
Speaker 25: things at your doorsteps that a lot of people don't have,

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Speaker 25: like the parks, the beats, the walkways, the cycle ways,

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00:54:41,973 --> 00:54:45,173
Speaker 25: you've got up pros, you've got shows in town. I

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00:54:45,293 --> 00:54:47,013
Speaker 25: think you guys have got a lot going for you,

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Speaker 25: and people just need to be more positive.

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Speaker 20: They're negative.

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Speaker 2: Whereabout to you, Sheila, if you don't mind me asking,

1202
00:54:54,413 --> 00:54:55,373
Speaker 2: I live a Master.

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00:54:55,293 --> 00:54:57,413
Speaker 20: And the Wirapa and what's it like there?

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00:54:58,573 --> 00:54:58,732
Speaker 13: Oh?

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00:54:59,173 --> 00:55:02,453
Speaker 25: I think it's great. We've got fantastic so great place

1206
00:55:02,493 --> 00:55:05,453
Speaker 25: for families to come for holidays. We're set up really

1207
00:55:05,493 --> 00:55:11,333
Speaker 25: well for families and everything for cycle pools and free activities.

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Speaker 8: He is very good down there.

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Speaker 2: Are you a positive person generally speaking? Because you're positive

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00:55:16,693 --> 00:55:18,893
Speaker 2: about Marsterden and positive aout Auckland. Do you find yourself

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00:55:18,933 --> 00:55:21,133
Speaker 2: being positive about most things? I do.

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Speaker 25: I think you need to be away. You need to

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00:55:23,813 --> 00:55:28,212
Speaker 25: be negative for I think there's more positive people out

1214
00:55:28,253 --> 00:55:30,493
Speaker 25: there than negative people. But the negative people are the

1215
00:55:30,573 --> 00:55:33,173
Speaker 25: people you hear from all the time that keep pulling

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Speaker 25: everyone down.

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Speaker 2: I agree, and I think that's kind of the point

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Speaker 2: of this chat as well. As the negativity gets amplified

1219
00:55:38,613 --> 00:55:42,293
Speaker 2: by the algorithms, and you know, the need for clicks

1220
00:55:42,373 --> 00:55:45,813
Speaker 2: and the need for views and the needfulessness, and so

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00:55:45,933 --> 00:55:48,133
Speaker 2: the negativity gets amplified. When I think most people are

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Speaker 2: like you. She I thank you so much for your call,

1223
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Speaker 2: appreciate it.

1224
00:55:50,773 --> 00:55:51,853
Speaker 3: You know what a great news lender.

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00:55:52,413 --> 00:55:55,172
Speaker 2: And you know she talks about criticism being easy. I've

1226
00:55:55,173 --> 00:55:56,933
Speaker 2: got some great audio here that I'd like to share

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Speaker 2: with you from the movie Ratituy. I've always thought this

1228
00:55:59,133 --> 00:56:03,893
Speaker 2: is absolutely brilliant from the really mean critic Anton Ego

1229
00:56:04,213 --> 00:56:07,573
Speaker 2: when he finally eats the Rattiituy that he've discovered has

1230
00:56:07,573 --> 00:56:10,772
Speaker 2: actually been made by rat and he's been the most

1231
00:56:11,093 --> 00:56:13,733
Speaker 2: snobby French food review of all time, and then he

1232
00:56:13,773 --> 00:56:15,013
Speaker 2: has this realization.

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Speaker 26: In many ways, the work of a critic is easy.

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00:56:19,853 --> 00:56:24,093
Speaker 26: We risk very little yet enjoy a position over those

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00:56:24,133 --> 00:56:27,533
Speaker 26: who offer up their work and themselves to our judgment.

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00:56:28,493 --> 00:56:32,413
Speaker 26: We thrive on negative criticism, which is fun to write

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00:56:32,493 --> 00:56:33,133
Speaker 26: and to read.

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Speaker 9: But the bitter truth we critics must face is that

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00:56:38,453 --> 00:56:42,253
Speaker 9: in the grand scheme of things, the average piece of

1240
00:56:42,493 --> 00:56:47,413
Speaker 9: junk is probably more meaningful than our criticism designating it.

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00:56:47,573 --> 00:56:50,373
Speaker 3: So that's the thing, and that is some wisdom right there.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to build and make, it's hard to create,

1243
00:56:54,373 --> 00:56:58,333
Speaker 2: and it's very easy to just crap on everything. It's

1244
00:56:58,533 --> 00:57:01,172
Speaker 2: so easy, it takes so little in it and it's

1245
00:57:01,413 --> 00:57:04,853
Speaker 2: fun to do and it's fun for other people to hear.

1246
00:57:05,093 --> 00:57:07,693
Speaker 3: But it's very very easy, and it is a spiral.

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00:57:07,933 --> 00:57:11,093
Speaker 3: That was a clap right headlines with Raylene coming up.

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Speaker 3: Then we're taking more of your calls OZ one hundred

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00:57:12,853 --> 00:57:14,613
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty bang on HbAS two.

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Speaker 16: You talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

1251
00:57:20,693 --> 00:57:24,453
Speaker 16: no trouble with a blue bubble. Former police Commissioner Andrew

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00:57:24,533 --> 00:57:29,333
Speaker 16: Costa has resigned as Social Investment Agency Chief Executive from today,

1253
00:57:29,813 --> 00:57:34,853
Speaker 16: widely apologizing and saying he got it wrong. Unemployment is up,

1254
00:57:35,133 --> 00:57:38,773
Speaker 16: but the Social Development Minister says benefit numbers are forecast

1255
00:57:38,853 --> 00:57:42,773
Speaker 16: to start falling. Just twelve people haven't been sanctioned financially

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00:57:43,133 --> 00:57:47,653
Speaker 16: for breaching job seeker benefit conditions. A tornadoes ripped through

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00:57:47,733 --> 00:57:51,893
Speaker 16: Manawatu's Dudding Lake Motor Camp near Martin, flipping a caravan

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00:57:52,013 --> 00:57:55,213
Speaker 16: and injuring at least one person, as well as toppling

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Speaker 16: trees and power lines in the area. ACTS chief of

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00:57:59,373 --> 00:58:03,173
Speaker 16: staff is leaving this month. Andrew Cattel says he's decided

1261
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Speaker 16: his time with ACT will soon come to an end.

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Speaker 16: After working at Parliament for twelve years and being a

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Speaker 16: the top roll for the past five A new quarry

1264
00:58:12,093 --> 00:58:16,133
Speaker 16: has been granted consent at Hawks Bay's Muddy Carclehull after

1265
00:58:16,373 --> 00:58:18,973
Speaker 16: going through an appeal, an EWE appeal that is in

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00:58:19,053 --> 00:58:23,053
Speaker 16: the High Court. X Coom who used intelligence system to

1267
00:58:23,093 --> 00:58:27,013
Speaker 16: get info on mates Common Cero's gang associate brother sentenced.

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Speaker 16: You can find out more at Ends and Herald Premium.

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Speaker 16: Back to Matt Eath and Tyler Adam.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen. It is twenty six to

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Speaker 3: three and we're talking about negativity in New Zealand. Do

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00:58:37,173 --> 00:58:39,733
Speaker 3: we have a bias towards being negative? And if we do,

1273
00:58:40,253 --> 00:58:41,373
Speaker 3: how do we turn it around?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to

1276
00:58:43,253 --> 00:58:45,053
Speaker 3: call Queen Street.

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Speaker 2: It's such a bad raps, as Dave, I live near

1278
00:58:47,573 --> 00:58:49,413
Speaker 2: Queen Street. I think it's awesome and I don't see

1279
00:58:49,453 --> 00:58:52,533
Speaker 2: as much of this homelessness, crime, vomit, et cetera that

1280
00:58:52,613 --> 00:58:56,813
Speaker 2: everyone's talking about. I live near a fantastic supermarket. It's awesome.

1281
00:58:57,053 --> 00:58:58,693
Speaker 2: I go to Unity, you read a book and have

1282
00:58:58,773 --> 00:59:02,173
Speaker 2: a bear at the Occidental. Queen Street is fantastic. It's

1283
00:59:02,213 --> 00:59:04,453
Speaker 2: all a beat up. I mean a lot of people

1284
00:59:04,533 --> 00:59:06,293
Speaker 2: that are just going on and on about how bad

1285
00:59:06,373 --> 00:59:07,533
Speaker 2: the CBD of Auckland are.

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00:59:07,933 --> 00:59:08,653
Speaker 3: Never go there.

1287
00:59:08,853 --> 00:59:12,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, they So much of what people say about the

1288
00:59:12,093 --> 00:59:14,253
Speaker 2: world is just what they've seen on social media or

1289
00:59:14,253 --> 00:59:15,293
Speaker 2: of what they've read in the media.

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00:59:15,453 --> 00:59:17,213
Speaker 3: Perception is reality for a lot of people, so.

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00:59:17,253 --> 00:59:19,333
Speaker 2: They spend so much their time angry about things that

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00:59:19,373 --> 00:59:21,053
Speaker 2: they don't actually experience themselves.

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00:59:21,133 --> 00:59:23,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Oh, e one hundred and eighty ten eighty

1294
00:59:23,373 --> 00:59:24,413
Speaker 3: is that number to call?

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00:59:25,133 --> 00:59:27,093
Speaker 2: Yes, this is a great country. Yes, positive is good,

1296
00:59:27,133 --> 00:59:29,373
Speaker 2: but there is no denying the current trajectory is one

1297
00:59:29,413 --> 00:59:32,853
Speaker 2: of decline, even over the space of the last ten years.

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00:59:32,933 --> 00:59:34,933
Speaker 2: No amount of positive a talk is going to change

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Speaker 2: that direction. Only an environment climate to allow the ability

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00:59:37,813 --> 00:59:40,613
Speaker 2: to do, and the doing will set the direction straight. Yeah,

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00:59:40,653 --> 00:59:41,133
Speaker 2: we'll fix it.

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00:59:41,213 --> 00:59:41,373
Speaker 3: Then.

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00:59:42,013 --> 00:59:44,693
Speaker 2: If it's on decline, then and you believe it's worth

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00:59:45,093 --> 00:59:46,533
Speaker 2: it's worth fighting for, then.

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00:59:46,613 --> 00:59:47,093
Speaker 4: Fight for it.

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00:59:47,213 --> 00:59:47,573
Speaker 5: Fix it.

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Speaker 27: Yep.

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Speaker 3: And on top of that, can I just push back?

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00:59:49,893 --> 00:59:52,373
Speaker 3: So we've got low productivity in this in this country

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Speaker 3: and a major contributing factor cited in research is a

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00:59:55,933 --> 00:59:59,253
Speaker 3: national negative thinking or cynical mindset, which acts as a

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00:59:59,333 --> 01:00:04,133
Speaker 3: barrier to innovation and improvement. So to break that down further, fatalism, denial,

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01:00:04,253 --> 01:00:06,813
Speaker 3: or common response to poor productivity data is a sense

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Speaker 3: of disempowerment and synesis as if it's bad, there's nothing

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Speaker 3: we can do about it. Absolutely positive mindset can turn

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01:00:14,253 --> 01:00:16,573
Speaker 3: things around. That if we think we can, then that

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01:00:16,813 --> 01:00:19,493
Speaker 3: leads to innovation, that leads to doing kick ass things,

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Speaker 3: and that means that we're going to be working better

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Speaker 3: at what we do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Auckland has everything that's doorsteps is Brandon swimming

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01:00:27,493 --> 01:00:30,853
Speaker 2: at beaches, mountain biking, hiking, surfing, fishing, speedway and all

1322
01:00:30,893 --> 01:00:33,093
Speaker 2: the other sports. There's no snow up here, so we

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01:00:33,173 --> 01:00:36,933
Speaker 2: built an indoor snow park, hunting and the list goes on.

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Speaker 3: Cheers, Brandon leads out Zane, welcome for the show.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, hi, guys.

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Speaker 22: I was just I'm living in Queenstown right and we

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01:00:47,533 --> 01:00:51,533
Speaker 22: still have that negativity down here, and I can't believe

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Speaker 22: we do. In such a beautiful place we have that negativity.

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Speaker 22: I was just up in the meeting yesterday and some

1330
01:00:58,213 --> 01:01:00,133
Speaker 22: guys said to me, why would you move to the

1331
01:01:00,213 --> 01:01:03,853
Speaker 22: traffic jam in Queenstown? Am I going to move here

1332
01:01:03,893 --> 01:01:05,933
Speaker 22: for the traffic gem? I moved here for the mountain

1333
01:01:06,013 --> 01:01:10,093
Speaker 22: biking form the s for the views for everything else

1334
01:01:10,373 --> 01:01:13,733
Speaker 22: except for the mountain. You know, I just see that

1335
01:01:13,893 --> 01:01:18,333
Speaker 22: negativity around everywhere and it's annoying. And I've got a theory.

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Speaker 22: I think it's the naysayers. Like you said before, it's

1337
01:01:22,533 --> 01:01:25,493
Speaker 22: all these naysayers. You know, the government wanted to do something. No,

1338
01:01:26,093 --> 01:01:28,453
Speaker 22: it's for fresh reaction as No, No, we're not going

1339
01:01:28,533 --> 01:01:30,333
Speaker 22: to do that. No we're going to get the money.

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Speaker 14: No.

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Speaker 22: I think when we get one of that may, I

1342
01:01:33,493 --> 01:01:35,893
Speaker 22: think people will see progress and they will see that

1343
01:01:36,053 --> 01:01:38,013
Speaker 22: with progress comes a bit of inconvenience.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Your story story reminds me of another story. I had

1346
01:01:43,413 --> 01:01:46,093
Speaker 2: a friend that grew up well, I spent a lot

1347
01:01:46,093 --> 01:01:47,733
Speaker 2: of time when I was younger and Sterling, which is

1348
01:01:47,733 --> 01:01:51,213
Speaker 2: a small town near Belkluther, and I was we were

1349
01:01:51,293 --> 01:01:55,013
Speaker 2: moving back to Dunedin and this person said, wh would

1350
01:01:55,013 --> 01:01:56,253
Speaker 2: you want to go to need And it's a bloody

1351
01:01:56,333 --> 01:02:02,933
Speaker 2: rat race up there. So compared to Sterling, Dunedin's got

1352
01:02:02,973 --> 01:02:05,453
Speaker 2: too much traffic and it's too much going on, too much.

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01:02:07,533 --> 01:02:11,453
Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, I just I don't know how we fixed this.

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01:02:14,013 --> 01:02:14,133
Speaker 28: Thing.

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01:02:14,333 --> 01:02:16,933
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean the idea that there isn't challenges.

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Speaker 22: I lived and worked over in Dubai for the last

1357
01:02:20,093 --> 01:02:24,293
Speaker 22: ten years. Yeah, and you know they have problems there.

1358
01:02:24,453 --> 01:02:27,573
Speaker 22: I've got relations in Australia. You watch the news in Australia.

1359
01:02:28,093 --> 01:02:29,893
Speaker 22: What's on the news? What's on the news here?

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Speaker 28: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: And you know what's really interesting is if you go

1363
01:02:35,173 --> 01:02:37,493
Speaker 2: back and read ancient Roman text is on want to do?

1364
01:02:37,653 --> 01:02:40,653
Speaker 2: Being a bit of a classics nerd, they're complaining about

1365
01:02:40,653 --> 01:02:44,973
Speaker 2: the same exact same things two two hundred years ago

1366
01:02:45,053 --> 01:02:49,173
Speaker 2: that we're complaining about about lazy youth, about lack of discipline,

1367
01:02:49,813 --> 01:02:55,773
Speaker 2: when change crumbling, infrastructure, nothing changing.

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01:02:55,773 --> 01:02:58,253
Speaker 3: Nothing changes. Thanks, you're a lucky man living in a

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Speaker 3: place like Queenstown. How beautiful, Thank you very much. Mates.

1370
01:03:01,293 --> 01:03:03,573
Speaker 2: But the Romans could all get together and smash up,

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01:03:03,613 --> 01:03:05,733
Speaker 2: smash up carthage. They had that, they knew what they

1372
01:03:05,733 --> 01:03:08,133
Speaker 2: wanted to do. Yeah, get out, smash up. Other countries

1373
01:03:08,333 --> 01:03:08,653
Speaker 2: don't have that.

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01:03:08,813 --> 01:03:10,653
Speaker 3: We don't have a bring some of that back.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who we'd invade. I don't know who

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01:03:13,413 --> 01:03:14,373
Speaker 2: New Zealand could take out.

1377
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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighties. The number of

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01:03:16,453 --> 01:03:18,693
Speaker 3: cool love to hear your thoughts, it's twenty two to three.

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Speaker 1: Madd Heath Tyler Adams with you as your afternoon rolls

1380
01:03:23,253 --> 01:03:26,653
Speaker 1: on Mad Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons news talks.

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01:03:26,693 --> 01:03:28,293
Speaker 3: It'd be nineteen to three.

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01:03:28,813 --> 01:03:31,733
Speaker 2: This is good text before from us hunter from Hawk's

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01:03:31,733 --> 01:03:34,093
Speaker 2: Bay here, Where can you hunt in Auckland? Great attitude though, guys,

1384
01:03:34,133 --> 01:03:37,013
Speaker 2: we need more positivity. Yeah, wishould we'd call us saying

1385
01:03:37,333 --> 01:03:39,853
Speaker 2: you know Auckland? Oh, a text saying all the amazing

1386
01:03:39,893 --> 01:03:44,373
Speaker 2: things you can do in Auckland mountain biking, surfing, hunting. Yeah,

1387
01:03:44,453 --> 01:03:46,253
Speaker 2: I mean I think you're probably going to want to

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01:03:46,333 --> 01:03:48,733
Speaker 2: drive about forty five minutes north before you can. You'd

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01:03:48,773 --> 01:03:49,733
Speaker 2: want to do too much hunting.

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01:03:49,973 --> 01:03:52,013
Speaker 3: Can you find a few goats and mudawai? Maybe in

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01:03:52,093 --> 01:03:53,013
Speaker 3: the in the bush somewhere?

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Speaker 10: I don't know.

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01:03:53,853 --> 01:03:58,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll check it out next time there, Chris, Chris.

1394
01:03:58,573 --> 01:04:01,773
Speaker 2: Sorry, welcome to the show. Just having a little trouble

1395
01:04:01,813 --> 01:04:06,533
Speaker 2: clicking your call on the you go. You're from Australia originally?

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Speaker 4: Is that right?

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01:04:08,493 --> 01:04:08,973
Speaker 29: Christ Church?

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01:04:09,053 --> 01:04:09,493
Speaker 18: Originally?

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Speaker 3: Okay? Sorry?

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Speaker 29: Look, I think the problem is is the negative gets

1401
01:04:14,493 --> 01:04:19,173
Speaker 29: too much light, you know, and if you're constantly taking

1402
01:04:19,253 --> 01:04:23,533
Speaker 29: that on board, you can become it. And so you know,

1403
01:04:23,533 --> 01:04:27,013
Speaker 29: if you've got to filter the noise out of your

1404
01:04:27,053 --> 01:04:32,373
Speaker 29: own life and basically just take bits of what you

1405
01:04:32,653 --> 01:04:35,293
Speaker 29: need to just get a hit. I wanted to give

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01:04:35,373 --> 01:04:39,853
Speaker 29: two pieces of advice to my fellow Keyweeks. The phone

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01:04:39,893 --> 01:04:46,453
Speaker 29: may please don't choose friends strategically because you can become

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01:04:46,933 --> 01:04:52,493
Speaker 29: who you associate with. And the second one is always

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01:04:52,613 --> 01:04:57,653
Speaker 29: look for a better job, keep pushing, and one day

1410
01:04:57,813 --> 01:04:59,973
Speaker 29: you'll look back at the people that are all winging

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01:05:00,053 --> 01:05:05,693
Speaker 29: and carrying on and save yourself. They are called of

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01:05:05,773 --> 01:05:09,733
Speaker 29: what it shoulder, not a doer. It's a problem.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, good on you, Chris, Thank you for that.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: That is some solid advice and I think.

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01:05:17,773 --> 01:05:20,333
Speaker 2: It goes back to that stoic principle that the thoughts

1417
01:05:20,373 --> 01:05:23,413
Speaker 2: shape your reality. So and you know, we all have

1418
01:05:23,493 --> 01:05:25,453
Speaker 2: those friends that you know, they're going to be negative

1419
01:05:25,453 --> 01:05:28,613
Speaker 2: about it about everything day, absolutely no whatever movie they

1420
01:05:28,653 --> 01:05:31,413
Speaker 2: go to, they're going to be negative about, whatever restaurant

1421
01:05:31,493 --> 01:05:33,533
Speaker 2: they go to, they're going to be negative about it.

1422
01:05:34,173 --> 01:05:37,053
Speaker 2: And they get amplified in the current climate. Yeah, and

1423
01:05:37,293 --> 01:05:38,693
Speaker 2: you know, the algorithm amplifies that.

1424
01:05:38,853 --> 01:05:41,133
Speaker 3: And it's such a downbars it's so boring, but they

1425
01:05:41,293 --> 01:05:43,453
Speaker 3: just ruined the vibe. And that's what it feels like

1426
01:05:43,653 --> 01:05:46,053
Speaker 3: that the wines in New Zealand, you're ruining the vibe

1427
01:05:46,093 --> 01:05:50,173
Speaker 3: of this country. Michelle, how are you good? How are

1428
01:05:50,213 --> 01:05:52,173
Speaker 3: you good? What do you reckon about this one?

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Speaker 28: For me, I think that we actually have a problem

1430
01:05:56,133 --> 01:05:59,853
Speaker 28: with our with some of our mainstream media, where their

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01:05:59,973 --> 01:06:04,933
Speaker 28: narrative is the government sucks. Living in New Zealand is

1432
01:06:05,653 --> 01:06:09,653
Speaker 28: just you know, everyone's moving to Australia, moving overseas. This

1433
01:06:09,813 --> 01:06:13,293
Speaker 28: is like the worst place to stay. And it just

1434
01:06:13,533 --> 01:06:16,853
Speaker 28: it seems as though it's just become like this negative

1435
01:06:17,293 --> 01:06:21,973
Speaker 28: kind of artlet for generalists just to share the dislike

1436
01:06:22,213 --> 01:06:25,653
Speaker 28: of what's happening currently in now, either government kind of

1437
01:06:25,853 --> 01:06:28,693
Speaker 28: narrative or kind of sector. And then also just if

1438
01:06:28,733 --> 01:06:32,573
Speaker 28: it doesn't go with a person's political viewpoint, or even

1439
01:06:32,613 --> 01:06:36,773
Speaker 28: if it's just if things aren't going according to it's

1440
01:06:36,893 --> 01:06:41,253
Speaker 28: just the kind of how they kind of project how

1441
01:06:41,333 --> 01:06:46,693
Speaker 28: the world should work. Yeah, So I just my way

1442
01:06:46,733 --> 01:06:50,813
Speaker 28: of seeing things is just try and try and put

1443
01:06:50,853 --> 01:06:53,893
Speaker 28: a falter up and don't necessarily take in all those

1444
01:06:54,333 --> 01:06:58,773
Speaker 28: those stories or messagings that you do get, either from

1445
01:06:59,133 --> 01:07:02,213
Speaker 28: whatever type of media you listen to, whether it's on

1446
01:07:02,253 --> 01:07:05,933
Speaker 28: the Internet, if it's radio, if it's television, just kind

1447
01:07:05,973 --> 01:07:08,733
Speaker 28: of create your own story and just go out and

1448
01:07:09,373 --> 01:07:12,293
Speaker 28: make things happen. Because yes, times are tough, but I

1449
01:07:12,413 --> 01:07:14,893
Speaker 28: promise you assis human beings are tougher. We can we

1450
01:07:15,013 --> 01:07:17,053
Speaker 28: can definitely get through these hard times.

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01:07:17,093 --> 01:07:17,453
Speaker 10: It's just.

1452
01:07:19,293 --> 01:07:21,413
Speaker 28: Like what you guys have been saying, But what are

1453
01:07:21,453 --> 01:07:24,013
Speaker 28: you telling yourself? What are you doing every day to

1454
01:07:24,133 --> 01:07:27,493
Speaker 28: make your life a bit better? Because yeah, it's it's

1455
01:07:27,613 --> 01:07:29,333
Speaker 28: really really really it's true story.

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01:07:29,333 --> 01:07:31,813
Speaker 3: It's up to you and the tiny little things.

1457
01:07:31,893 --> 01:07:33,973
Speaker 2: If you do tiny little things every day to make

1458
01:07:34,013 --> 01:07:37,653
Speaker 2: your life better, then they grow pretty quickly over time.

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01:07:37,893 --> 01:07:40,493
Speaker 2: So what positives do you see in the country looking around?

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Speaker 13: What?

1461
01:07:40,933 --> 01:07:40,973
Speaker 10: What?

1462
01:07:41,173 --> 01:07:41,213
Speaker 6: What?

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01:07:41,853 --> 01:07:44,493
Speaker 2: What things are making you feel good about New Zealand?

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01:07:46,093 --> 01:07:50,733
Speaker 28: I just I can. I can say that like just

1465
01:07:51,013 --> 01:07:54,373
Speaker 28: being around my friends, like going running after work and

1466
01:07:54,973 --> 01:07:58,693
Speaker 28: having that chat just to be able to just chat

1467
01:07:58,733 --> 01:08:01,893
Speaker 28: about the day and connect with other humans.

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01:08:01,613 --> 01:08:01,693
Speaker 17: And.

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01:08:03,613 --> 01:08:06,493
Speaker 28: Getting excited about Christmas, putting up the Christmas tree. And

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01:08:07,013 --> 01:08:09,733
Speaker 28: it's just finding those small things to look forward to you.

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01:08:10,373 --> 01:08:13,293
Speaker 28: And I promise you, even if you, yes, maybe don't

1472
01:08:13,373 --> 01:08:16,532
Speaker 28: have as money as you had five years ago, I

1473
01:08:16,693 --> 01:08:19,653
Speaker 28: promise you just taking a walk along the coastline, or

1474
01:08:20,093 --> 01:08:22,733
Speaker 28: even just like walking past someone and giving them a

1475
01:08:22,813 --> 01:08:25,732
Speaker 28: smile and if they smiled back. I promise you that's

1476
01:08:25,772 --> 01:08:29,333
Speaker 28: worth more than anything that money can buy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I gat. Great attitude, Michelle. Well, well

1478
01:08:33,772 --> 01:08:35,452
Speaker 3: you really nailed that question.

1479
01:08:35,732 --> 01:08:37,053
Speaker 2: So I was asking you a curly one and you

1480
01:08:37,173 --> 01:08:40,932
Speaker 2: absolutely nailed it. I really appreciate that, how articulate, beautifully said.

1481
01:08:41,053 --> 01:08:42,333
Speaker 3: But I think running is a really.

1482
01:08:42,173 --> 01:08:44,572
Speaker 2: Good thing, and walking and getting out of your house.

1483
01:08:44,772 --> 01:08:47,053
Speaker 2: You know, people talk about how expensive everything is, but

1484
01:08:47,253 --> 01:08:51,093
Speaker 2: it's absolutely free. I mean not everyone can run, but

1485
01:08:51,213 --> 01:08:54,012
Speaker 2: it's absolutely free to get out of the house and walk.

1486
01:08:54,013 --> 01:08:55,772
Speaker 2: And if you can text someone and go, oh, let's

1487
01:08:55,772 --> 01:08:58,852
Speaker 2: go for a wonder. You know, that's a boast bloody

1488
01:08:58,893 --> 01:09:01,253
Speaker 2: good for your mood. Both get a bit of vitamund going,

1489
01:09:01,412 --> 01:09:03,652
Speaker 2: see a bit of a few trees, even if they're

1490
01:09:03,772 --> 01:09:05,172
Speaker 2: just trees growing on booms.

1491
01:09:05,412 --> 01:09:08,852
Speaker 3: See some nice doggies, yep, doggies. Yeah, it's good time

1492
01:09:08,893 --> 01:09:11,532
Speaker 3: on you, Michelle. Thank you for your call. Oh one

1493
01:09:11,572 --> 01:09:13,093
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number to call.

1494
01:09:13,612 --> 01:09:16,293
Speaker 2: Michael. You're an ex Aucklander, but you're now living in

1495
01:09:16,333 --> 01:09:16,852
Speaker 2: christ Church.

1496
01:09:18,372 --> 01:09:22,213
Speaker 24: Yes, I am yes I am. And it's a city

1497
01:09:22,293 --> 01:09:26,213
Speaker 24: that's actually a rediscovered its mojo and people talk so

1498
01:09:26,452 --> 01:09:29,892
Speaker 24: positively every day, Like everyone that I'm meeting with. I'm

1499
01:09:29,893 --> 01:09:32,812
Speaker 24: in a sales role, so I'm constantly interacting with people

1500
01:09:32,893 --> 01:09:38,293
Speaker 24: and they're upbeat, they're positive, they talk positively about the future,

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01:09:38,812 --> 01:09:41,732
Speaker 24: and it's kind of incting the whole city. Everywhere you go.

1502
01:09:42,612 --> 01:09:45,692
Speaker 24: Everyone's got a forward focused mentality because of the way

1503
01:09:45,732 --> 01:09:46,173
Speaker 24: they speak.

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01:09:46,333 --> 01:09:49,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, I noticed it about christ Church and it's in

1505
01:09:49,452 --> 01:09:51,572
Speaker 2: the media now. It's become a media trend to just

1506
01:09:51,612 --> 01:09:54,692
Speaker 2: say christ Church is awesome and got it stuff sorted

1507
01:09:54,732 --> 01:09:56,452
Speaker 2: and it's moving forward and it's a great place to be.

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01:09:58,013 --> 01:10:00,412
Speaker 24: Absolutely, And when I shifted down that, you could say

1509
01:10:00,452 --> 01:10:03,253
Speaker 24: the exact opposite. Christ Church was a media beat up

1510
01:10:04,372 --> 01:10:07,013
Speaker 24: because there was no national media being published down here,

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01:10:07,093 --> 01:10:08,972
Speaker 24: so all the stories are coming out of North Island

1512
01:10:10,652 --> 01:10:14,293
Speaker 24: and they would often refer to christ Church with you know,

1513
01:10:14,772 --> 01:10:18,772
Speaker 24: a relatively negative filter and a few nasty comments about

1514
01:10:19,492 --> 01:10:21,532
Speaker 24: what a dull and backward.

1515
01:10:21,173 --> 01:10:21,732
Speaker 4: Place it was.

1516
01:10:22,013 --> 01:10:24,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, so true. I mean case in point is christ

1517
01:10:24,412 --> 01:10:26,492
Speaker 3: Church is there was a lot of negative people for

1518
01:10:26,572 --> 01:10:28,973
Speaker 3: a long time in christ Church for obvious reasons. There

1519
01:10:29,013 --> 01:10:30,852
Speaker 3: were you know there was a lot that happened to

1520
01:10:30,893 --> 01:10:34,132
Speaker 3: poor old christ Church, but the more that they started

1521
01:10:34,213 --> 01:10:36,973
Speaker 3: talking positively about what was happening about the city and

1522
01:10:37,053 --> 01:10:39,932
Speaker 3: the stadium and what was going on in the CBD.

1523
01:10:40,333 --> 01:10:42,732
Speaker 3: Slowly but surely, Michael, you've been living it, but I

1524
01:10:42,853 --> 01:10:45,812
Speaker 3: witnessed it as well, that it started to turn things around.

1525
01:10:45,933 --> 01:10:49,172
Speaker 3: That positivity breeds more positivity and the cycle continues.

1526
01:10:49,333 --> 01:10:53,293
Speaker 2: So it does, and it helps the city and your

1527
01:10:53,333 --> 01:10:56,052
Speaker 2: thoughts become reality. So how do you change the narrative

1528
01:10:56,053 --> 01:10:58,852
Speaker 2: of a city? How do you stop say, Auckland, your

1529
01:10:58,933 --> 01:11:02,213
Speaker 2: old city running itself down all the time? How can

1530
01:11:02,253 --> 01:11:04,053
Speaker 2: people go back to the way they used to talk

1531
01:11:04,093 --> 01:11:07,532
Speaker 2: about it in nineteen sixty seven in this documentary I

1532
01:11:07,612 --> 01:11:11,333
Speaker 2: said with this is the way it was described was.

1533
01:11:13,772 --> 01:11:16,972
Speaker 6: Most Aucklanders are intensely proud of their city. It's modern

1534
01:11:17,013 --> 01:11:19,812
Speaker 6: the then it is, it's claimate, it's continual struggle to

1535
01:11:19,853 --> 01:11:23,173
Speaker 6: be involgue with overseas trends, and it's frenetic grid.

1536
01:11:23,572 --> 01:11:26,852
Speaker 2: I feel like Auckland had had the mojo of christ

1537
01:11:26,933 --> 01:11:28,253
Speaker 2: Church for a very very long time.

1538
01:11:28,492 --> 01:11:29,492
Speaker 3: So how do you get it back?

1539
01:11:30,973 --> 01:11:33,093
Speaker 24: I believe that you are what you say, So if

1540
01:11:33,173 --> 01:11:36,492
Speaker 24: you choose your words carefully. If you say positive things,

1541
01:11:36,572 --> 01:11:40,612
Speaker 24: if you find something upbeat to say about any situation,

1542
01:11:40,692 --> 01:11:43,652
Speaker 24: and your genuinely can you can be in less than

1543
01:11:43,692 --> 01:11:46,973
Speaker 24: positive situations, but find some way of looking at it positively.

1544
01:11:47,812 --> 01:11:50,132
Speaker 24: It actually changes your mindset.

1545
01:11:50,333 --> 01:11:52,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, thank you for you call, Michael. Great call.

1546
01:11:52,492 --> 01:11:53,333
Speaker 3: But it is I mean true.

1547
01:11:53,333 --> 01:11:56,652
Speaker 2: I mean that nothing proves the narrative change more than

1548
01:11:56,732 --> 01:11:59,372
Speaker 2: christ Church. The narrative on that city is so positive

1549
01:11:59,452 --> 01:12:02,253
Speaker 2: right now, and we get excited talking about it. I've

1550
01:12:02,293 --> 01:12:03,132
Speaker 2: brought into the narrative.

1551
01:12:03,253 --> 01:12:04,492
Speaker 3: Yepkly.

1552
01:12:04,532 --> 01:12:06,173
Speaker 2: I came back from Grays It's amazing there. I'm not

1553
01:12:06,253 --> 01:12:08,293
Speaker 2: even sure. I just went down there assuming it would

1554
01:12:08,412 --> 01:12:09,972
Speaker 2: and it was. And I came back and I continued

1555
01:12:09,973 --> 01:12:11,972
Speaker 2: the narrative. Oh god, CHRISTI is incredible.

1556
01:12:12,053 --> 01:12:13,932
Speaker 3: It's working right back in the mow. But oh, one

1557
01:12:14,013 --> 01:12:16,133
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty, ten eighty is that number to call?

1558
01:12:16,213 --> 01:12:19,213
Speaker 1: It is ten to three the issues that affect you,

1559
01:12:19,612 --> 01:12:21,772
Speaker 1: and a bit of fun along the way. Matt Heath

1560
01:12:21,853 --> 01:12:24,132
Speaker 1: and Tyler Adams afternoons news.

1561
01:12:24,013 --> 01:12:27,732
Speaker 3: Talks, they'd be maybe it is seven to three, Jeff,

1562
01:12:27,812 --> 01:12:28,213
Speaker 3: Welcome to.

1563
01:12:28,213 --> 01:12:31,532
Speaker 23: The showy Fellows, good show, good show.

1564
01:12:31,612 --> 01:12:32,852
Speaker 18: You know I waited to drive around the.

1565
01:12:32,933 --> 01:12:35,452
Speaker 21: Or country long and I'll be down in one of

1566
01:12:35,572 --> 01:12:38,333
Speaker 21: your or problems that we're talking a bunch of hams

1567
01:12:38,372 --> 01:12:38,852
Speaker 21: and say, you.

1568
01:12:38,853 --> 01:12:40,732
Speaker 18: Know what, you know what Jeffer is?

1569
01:12:40,812 --> 01:12:44,852
Speaker 21: You know Jeffer and they all go, I don't know, No,

1570
01:12:45,013 --> 01:12:48,253
Speaker 21: Jeffer is just another friendly face from bort.

1571
01:12:48,412 --> 01:12:52,652
Speaker 3: Oh bless that is nice, mate, Sam, mate.

1572
01:12:52,492 --> 01:12:55,572
Speaker 21: Men you've got from But we didn't exercise once on

1573
01:12:56,133 --> 01:12:56,732
Speaker 21: what you can do.

1574
01:12:56,812 --> 01:12:57,852
Speaker 8: I think you're fished with its.

1575
01:12:57,933 --> 01:13:01,612
Speaker 21: Sixty minutes off Weak Street, we shot shot at.

1576
01:13:01,492 --> 01:13:02,412
Speaker 27: The year Well you are you?

1577
01:13:02,652 --> 01:13:04,772
Speaker 3: Are you the are you the Jeff Thomas? Jeff Thomas?

1578
01:13:05,853 --> 01:13:09,133
Speaker 3: Yeah you have ah right, it's it with you in

1579
01:13:09,173 --> 01:13:11,372
Speaker 3: New Zealand. I think so much for ringing in Wow,

1580
01:13:12,053 --> 01:13:12,532
Speaker 3: good stuff.

1581
01:13:12,532 --> 01:13:13,932
Speaker 21: Well, well I just slabbed the subject.

1582
01:13:14,053 --> 01:13:14,173
Speaker 17: Rod.

1583
01:13:14,213 --> 01:13:16,732
Speaker 21: I love to say Jack And as I said, we

1584
01:13:16,812 --> 01:13:17,253
Speaker 21: did a show.

1585
01:13:17,372 --> 01:13:20,293
Speaker 20: In fact we had of John John O Ben.

1586
01:13:20,333 --> 01:13:23,173
Speaker 21: We we're gonna shooting a rabbit abound either shot of

1587
01:13:23,253 --> 01:13:25,293
Speaker 21: feces of the duck that we want to trout in

1588
01:13:25,933 --> 01:13:28,172
Speaker 21: at length with Bockey. We caught a big game fasher

1589
01:13:28,612 --> 01:13:31,213
Speaker 21: to a buns way like the shack off. Why you

1590
01:13:31,772 --> 01:13:34,412
Speaker 21: and you can do it all within sixty minutes Qui Street,

1591
01:13:34,492 --> 01:13:34,972
Speaker 21: no problem.

1592
01:13:35,572 --> 01:13:38,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's incredible, wasn't it. Yeah, I mean we're out

1593
01:13:38,372 --> 01:13:40,093
Speaker 3: in the world. Did you do something like that? If

1594
01:13:40,133 --> 01:13:42,692
Speaker 3: it is, it's it's unique and it's a beautiful thing

1595
01:13:42,732 --> 01:13:43,293
Speaker 3: in New Zealand.

1596
01:13:44,772 --> 01:13:47,012
Speaker 21: Oh absolutely. And I mean I've born a bread orphan,

1597
01:13:47,053 --> 01:13:50,173
Speaker 21: so I'm a little bit advised. But that's right, that's right.

1598
01:13:50,492 --> 01:13:52,372
Speaker 21: But yetnity you can't do is going to shed.

1599
01:13:52,213 --> 01:13:56,532
Speaker 23: Me or a character because you talking about But no, no, no,

1600
01:13:56,772 --> 01:13:57,772
Speaker 23: carry on with a good work.

1601
01:13:57,853 --> 01:14:00,572
Speaker 21: We're gonna got to look after or we look after

1602
01:14:00,652 --> 01:14:03,053
Speaker 21: the whole country. We all know this is one of

1603
01:14:03,093 --> 01:14:04,253
Speaker 21: the best countries of the world.

1604
01:14:04,412 --> 01:14:04,612
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1605
01:14:04,732 --> 01:14:07,053
Speaker 2: Absolutely hate Jiff and so so good to talk to you,

1606
01:14:07,133 --> 01:14:08,093
Speaker 2: and thank you so much for ring in.

1607
01:14:08,133 --> 01:14:11,532
Speaker 3: How outdoors with Jeff? What religions? Great New Zealand. No

1608
01:14:11,652 --> 01:14:13,452
Speaker 3: Shemys and Auckland. You're gonna go a little bit further

1609
01:14:13,532 --> 01:14:15,372
Speaker 3: afield for the Shemis. But what a great man.

1610
01:14:15,973 --> 01:14:16,093
Speaker 9: Uh.

1611
01:14:16,853 --> 01:14:19,093
Speaker 3: Plenty of techs coming through on nine two ninety two.

1612
01:14:20,572 --> 01:14:23,333
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, there's so many ticks coming in. I'm

1613
01:14:23,372 --> 01:14:26,093
Speaker 2: grateful for my parents being accepted into New Zealand and

1614
01:14:26,173 --> 01:14:29,132
Speaker 2: Viicago has been a great place to raise a family.

1615
01:14:31,013 --> 01:14:31,213
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1616
01:14:31,293 --> 01:14:35,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems the people that have moved here from

1617
01:14:35,173 --> 01:14:38,852
Speaker 2: use we are very very complementary of the of the country. Yeah,

1618
01:14:39,612 --> 01:14:41,293
Speaker 2: way more so than the people that are here and

1619
01:14:41,372 --> 01:14:43,532
Speaker 2: maybe haven't done as much traveling and haven't seen how

1620
01:14:43,572 --> 01:14:45,692
Speaker 2: bad it is everywhere else. There's a text here saying

1621
01:14:46,372 --> 01:14:49,093
Speaker 2: I've got to find it. It was so negative and

1622
01:14:49,293 --> 01:14:50,612
Speaker 2: maybe I shouldn't read it out, but.

1623
01:14:51,893 --> 01:14:52,412
Speaker 4: But I will.

1624
01:14:52,973 --> 01:14:54,532
Speaker 2: We've got time, Yeah, we got time.

1625
01:14:54,572 --> 01:14:55,452
Speaker 3: We've got to time.

1626
01:14:55,572 --> 01:14:56,692
Speaker 2: There just sly coming through.

1627
01:14:56,812 --> 01:14:58,372
Speaker 3: Shine a light on that negativity.

1628
01:14:59,372 --> 01:14:59,812
Speaker 4: Where is it?

1629
01:15:00,053 --> 01:15:03,012
Speaker 3: We've had hundreds and hundreds of ticks come through, damn.

1630
01:15:03,732 --> 01:15:06,652
Speaker 2: But basically it was, how can you be positive when

1631
01:15:06,692 --> 01:15:10,892
Speaker 2: you'll watch your children die in ho hospital with unable

1632
01:15:10,933 --> 01:15:14,333
Speaker 2: to afford the pharmaceuticals that's going to happen to you

1633
01:15:15,652 --> 01:15:20,372
Speaker 2: every day. I'm so grateful for my children's health and

1634
01:15:20,532 --> 01:15:23,452
Speaker 2: my family's health and my friend's health. You know, that's

1635
01:15:24,133 --> 01:15:26,772
Speaker 2: absolutely that can happen. But we're in one of the

1636
01:15:27,093 --> 01:15:30,452
Speaker 2: strangest times in history and one of the smallest places,

1637
01:15:30,732 --> 01:15:33,973
Speaker 2: one of the strangest, smallest populations of people that have

1638
01:15:34,333 --> 01:15:38,732
Speaker 2: healthcare available to them, and the health system maybe overrun,

1639
01:15:38,853 --> 01:15:41,213
Speaker 2: and it definitely has its problems, but.

1640
01:15:41,532 --> 01:15:45,412
Speaker 3: You can go and get help. Yeah, and you've got

1641
01:15:45,492 --> 01:15:46,132
Speaker 3: to have gratitude.

1642
01:15:46,133 --> 01:15:49,133
Speaker 2: Your fellow citizens do put up a lot of money

1643
01:15:49,293 --> 01:15:51,932
Speaker 2: through their taxes to help you if you get into trouble.

1644
01:15:52,093 --> 01:15:54,812
Speaker 3: Exactly. We are incredibly lucky on the world World scheme

1645
01:15:54,853 --> 01:15:55,133
Speaker 3: of things.

1646
01:15:55,293 --> 01:15:57,572
Speaker 2: That is a very rare thing in history and a

1647
01:15:57,732 --> 01:15:59,892
Speaker 2: very rare thing in current times globally.

1648
01:15:59,973 --> 01:16:01,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, should we keep this going. There's a lot

1649
01:16:01,732 --> 01:16:03,412
Speaker 3: of people want to have a chat about this, so

1650
01:16:03,572 --> 01:16:06,412
Speaker 3: why not? I wait one hundred eighty ten eighty love

1651
01:16:06,492 --> 01:16:10,052
Speaker 3: to hear your thoughts about too negative in this country.

1652
01:16:10,133 --> 01:16:12,053
Speaker 3: Do we need to have more of a positive spin?

1653
01:16:12,133 --> 01:16:13,852
Speaker 3: And how do we turn things around? How do we

1654
01:16:14,013 --> 01:16:16,732
Speaker 3: change the narrative from negative to positive? New Sport and

1655
01:16:16,772 --> 01:16:17,812
Speaker 3: Weather coming up next.

1656
01:16:20,572 --> 01:16:24,892
Speaker 1: Your new homes are instateful and entertaining Talk. It's Mattie

1657
01:16:25,093 --> 01:16:29,812
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons on news Talk Sevvy Afternoon you.

1658
01:16:30,133 --> 01:16:33,333
Speaker 3: Sax past three. Welcome back into the show.

1659
01:16:33,933 --> 01:16:34,093
Speaker 10: Now.

1660
01:16:34,093 --> 01:16:36,532
Speaker 3: I noticed matt that you just had to hang up

1661
01:16:36,572 --> 01:16:38,652
Speaker 3: pretty rapidly before we started the show again. But you

1662
01:16:38,732 --> 01:16:40,133
Speaker 3: had some sort of rogue phone call.

1663
01:16:40,253 --> 01:16:42,612
Speaker 2: Do you sometimes just answer the phone because it's ringing? Yeah,

1664
01:16:43,013 --> 01:16:44,412
Speaker 2: I just pick it up, and I'm not thinking. I

1665
01:16:44,492 --> 01:16:45,932
Speaker 2: was doing a bunch of other stuff. I was busy,

1666
01:16:46,612 --> 01:16:49,652
Speaker 2: busy doing staff, doing busy broadcasting stuff here.

1667
01:16:49,772 --> 01:16:52,092
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I just picked up my phone.

1668
01:16:52,893 --> 01:16:54,933
Speaker 2: Is there a scam going round where people bring you

1669
01:16:55,093 --> 01:16:58,612
Speaker 2: up from a hotel chain and talk about you staying

1670
01:16:58,732 --> 01:17:02,052
Speaker 2: at their hotel and offer you two free nights somewhere.

1671
01:17:02,452 --> 01:17:04,652
Speaker 3: It's a good question. I haven't got that scam yet.

1672
01:17:04,692 --> 01:17:06,932
Speaker 3: But when you first answered, and it was some sort

1673
01:17:06,933 --> 01:17:09,013
Speaker 3: of botic voice saying the phone call is going to

1674
01:17:09,013 --> 01:17:11,173
Speaker 3: be recorded, which felt like a red flag, but then

1675
01:17:11,213 --> 01:17:11,973
Speaker 3: you did actually.

1676
01:17:11,692 --> 01:17:14,893
Speaker 2: Speak no, you know, that was my razor sharp cheekbones.

1677
01:17:15,253 --> 01:17:17,892
Speaker 2: For some reason, my cheekbones are in such a position

1678
01:17:17,933 --> 01:17:20,052
Speaker 2: whenever I answer a card now it presses the button

1679
01:17:20,133 --> 01:17:22,732
Speaker 2: on the phone that starts recording it. Ah, a right,

1680
01:17:22,853 --> 01:17:26,972
Speaker 2: And it's always embarrassing because it sounds like I'm being dodgy.

1681
01:17:27,692 --> 01:17:29,772
Speaker 2: Someone rings up and goes, this phone call will now

1682
01:17:29,812 --> 01:17:31,412
Speaker 2: be recorded. I'm like, no, no, no, that's my face.

1683
01:17:31,492 --> 01:17:33,372
Speaker 3: That's a power move. That's a massive power move. My

1684
01:17:33,452 --> 01:17:33,812
Speaker 3: face is.

1685
01:17:33,812 --> 01:17:36,612
Speaker 2: Pressing the button. It's embarrassing. So that wasn't related to it.

1686
01:17:37,293 --> 01:17:42,852
Speaker 2: But that's just yeah, I'm so cynical about scams now. Basically,

1687
01:17:42,893 --> 01:17:44,572
Speaker 2: anyone that rings me up that I don't have their number,

1688
01:17:44,572 --> 01:17:45,532
Speaker 2: I think they're trying to scam me.

1689
01:17:45,652 --> 01:17:46,492
Speaker 3: So what were they offering?

1690
01:17:46,853 --> 01:17:49,333
Speaker 2: As they said, there's been a major upgrade at this

1691
01:17:49,492 --> 01:17:52,412
Speaker 2: hotel at the Christ Gutty Aboard, right, and they're offering

1692
01:17:52,492 --> 01:17:55,852
Speaker 2: has there been a massive upgrade at the hotel at

1693
01:17:55,853 --> 01:17:56,452
Speaker 2: the Christ Juice?

1694
01:17:56,492 --> 01:17:58,412
Speaker 3: But I think there hairs, Yeah, definitely has.

1695
01:17:58,692 --> 01:18:00,932
Speaker 2: Maybe they're not a scam, just they're offering me two

1696
01:18:00,973 --> 01:18:01,732
Speaker 2: free nights there.

1697
01:18:02,053 --> 01:18:04,213
Speaker 3: Roll the dice, take the offer and see where it goes.

1698
01:18:04,372 --> 01:18:06,253
Speaker 2: If you start, you know, should I bring them back

1699
01:18:06,293 --> 01:18:08,253
Speaker 2: and just open with my credit card details?

1700
01:18:08,732 --> 01:18:10,772
Speaker 3: If you get caught over sea smuggling cocaine, we know

1701
01:18:10,893 --> 01:18:13,213
Speaker 3: something went horribly wrong with the free offer of the

1702
01:18:13,253 --> 01:18:15,932
Speaker 3: hotel room. But let's start it off and see where

1703
01:18:15,933 --> 01:18:16,253
Speaker 3: it goes.

1704
01:18:17,173 --> 01:18:21,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, there has been a renovation there here.

1705
01:18:21,293 --> 01:18:23,492
Speaker 3: I'll ring back with my credit code details. Yeah it

1706
01:18:23,492 --> 01:18:24,812
Speaker 3: looks nice, doesn't it lovely?

1707
01:18:24,933 --> 01:18:25,093
Speaker 25: Yeah?

1708
01:18:25,452 --> 01:18:25,932
Speaker 3: Very nice.

1709
01:18:26,093 --> 01:18:28,932
Speaker 2: I do want those free two nights there, get no catches?

1710
01:18:29,372 --> 01:18:31,852
Speaker 3: Give us an update on that one, mate. Anyway, back

1711
01:18:31,933 --> 01:18:32,492
Speaker 3: to this, this.

1712
01:18:32,692 --> 01:18:36,253
Speaker 2: Unprofessional of me to answer my phone just seconds before

1713
01:18:36,253 --> 01:18:36,732
Speaker 2: I've went on it.

1714
01:18:36,893 --> 01:18:39,652
Speaker 3: It was very professional how you hung up on them though. Yeah,

1715
01:18:39,812 --> 01:18:41,892
Speaker 3: you're a polite but firm Sorry, I got a job

1716
01:18:41,933 --> 01:18:44,293
Speaker 3: to do. I've got to go, so nicely done. Right

1717
01:18:44,333 --> 01:18:46,973
Speaker 3: back to our discussion about negativity in New Zealand, do

1718
01:18:47,053 --> 01:18:48,973
Speaker 3: we have a negative bias? So this is on the

1719
01:18:49,053 --> 01:18:50,973
Speaker 3: back of a great opinion piece. You can read it

1720
01:18:51,053 --> 01:18:53,692
Speaker 3: on the hero right now. It's by Rupert Hodson. He's

1721
01:18:53,732 --> 01:18:56,372
Speaker 3: the executive director of the Committee for Auckland and he

1722
01:18:56,492 --> 01:18:59,732
Speaker 3: highlighted why Auckland story is important not only for residents

1723
01:18:59,812 --> 01:19:01,532
Speaker 3: up here, but also for New Zealand as a whole.

1724
01:19:01,572 --> 01:19:03,412
Speaker 3: It's the engine room of New Zealand. But his point

1725
01:19:03,612 --> 01:19:06,732
Speaker 3: was the dominant headlines and chat often focus on what's

1726
01:19:06,772 --> 01:19:09,932
Speaker 3: going wrong in a place like Auckland, about crime, traffic issues,

1727
01:19:09,973 --> 01:19:13,092
Speaker 3: a lad of the structure, rising expenses, instead of the progress,

1728
01:19:13,133 --> 01:19:16,293
Speaker 3: potential and innovation happening across the city. And he made

1729
01:19:16,333 --> 01:19:18,772
Speaker 3: the point that the narrative does have real impact, that

1730
01:19:18,933 --> 01:19:22,492
Speaker 3: negative narrative. It shapes our collective mindset and influences how

1731
01:19:22,532 --> 01:19:24,973
Speaker 3: Auckland and the rest of New Zealand is viewed internationally.

1732
01:19:25,772 --> 01:19:28,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the call of your thoughts become your reality

1733
01:19:29,173 --> 01:19:31,133
Speaker 2: is really the argument here. And if we keep running

1734
01:19:31,173 --> 01:19:33,093
Speaker 2: down a place, which kind of makes sense because if

1735
01:19:33,133 --> 01:19:35,973
Speaker 2: you keep saying that a place is rubbish and unsalvagable,

1736
01:19:36,053 --> 01:19:39,532
Speaker 2: then you then you are unlikely to be motivated to

1737
01:19:39,812 --> 01:19:42,372
Speaker 2: fight to make it better. But if you say, we're

1738
01:19:42,452 --> 01:19:46,093
Speaker 2: very lucky to be here. There are challenges, but it's

1739
01:19:46,253 --> 01:19:50,133
Speaker 2: well worth fighting for, then you then I think things

1740
01:19:50,133 --> 01:19:52,173
Speaker 2: will get better. And as we was talking about at

1741
01:19:52,173 --> 01:19:53,692
Speaker 2: the end of last hour, look at how much the

1742
01:19:53,853 --> 01:19:56,013
Speaker 2: narratives changed in christ Church, and I think that's having

1743
01:19:56,053 --> 01:19:58,293
Speaker 2: a snowball effect. People are just walking around christ Church

1744
01:19:58,372 --> 01:20:01,213
Speaker 2: going it's bloody great here, yep, it's amazing. It's our

1745
01:20:01,293 --> 01:20:02,652
Speaker 2: city on the rise.

1746
01:20:02,572 --> 01:20:03,932
Speaker 3: Happiness levels through the roof.

1747
01:20:04,013 --> 01:20:06,572
Speaker 2: Everything's getting better and better. Yeah, surely we can tell

1748
01:20:06,652 --> 01:20:09,333
Speaker 2: the same story about every city. And why can't we

1749
01:20:09,372 --> 01:20:11,012
Speaker 2: start telling that story about Auckland City.

1750
01:20:11,093 --> 01:20:11,253
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1751
01:20:11,293 --> 01:20:13,333
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

1752
01:20:13,412 --> 01:20:13,852
Speaker 3: to call?

1753
01:20:14,213 --> 01:20:17,452
Speaker 2: Look look at this negativity is so powerful that this

1754
01:20:17,652 --> 01:20:20,972
Speaker 2: texture is saying you guys have been trained and paid

1755
01:20:21,013 --> 01:20:22,932
Speaker 2: for by the government to say things aren't as bad

1756
01:20:22,973 --> 01:20:27,012
Speaker 2: as they actually are. This is propaganda. You're saying Trump

1757
01:20:27,133 --> 01:20:28,572
Speaker 2: is doing well? Have not mentioned Trump?

1758
01:20:28,933 --> 01:20:28,973
Speaker 4: That?

1759
01:20:29,213 --> 01:20:30,293
Speaker 3: What's the law? Matt's law?

1760
01:20:30,333 --> 01:20:33,412
Speaker 2: If you bring inject Trump into a conversation that has

1761
01:20:33,732 --> 01:20:36,972
Speaker 2: nothing to do with Trump, then then you get ignored.

1762
01:20:37,053 --> 01:20:39,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, you completely lose the argument. He's law.

1763
01:20:39,492 --> 01:20:42,852
Speaker 2: This is you right wing blow hards blowing the gold

1764
01:20:42,973 --> 01:20:46,213
Speaker 2: the government's golden trumpet. Keep it up, boys, you're getting

1765
01:20:46,452 --> 01:20:49,452
Speaker 2: very very pay paid, very very well. But how do

1766
01:20:49,572 --> 01:20:51,973
Speaker 2: you sleep at night when the rest of us are

1767
01:20:52,053 --> 01:20:53,572
Speaker 2: burning in our beds?

1768
01:20:54,452 --> 01:20:57,173
Speaker 3: Seas for a minic? Come on?

1769
01:20:57,612 --> 01:21:00,812
Speaker 2: So this is how ingrained the negativity in this country

1770
01:21:00,973 --> 01:21:04,612
Speaker 2: is that it is seen for someone to even suggest

1771
01:21:05,253 --> 01:21:07,293
Speaker 2: that maybe we could be a bit more positive as

1772
01:21:07,333 --> 01:21:11,852
Speaker 2: seen as a massive conspiracy. It couldn't possibly. New Zealand

1773
01:21:11,933 --> 01:21:14,852
Speaker 2: is according to this person in New Zealand, so irreversibly

1774
01:21:15,293 --> 01:21:16,173
Speaker 2: and irrecovably.

1775
01:21:16,612 --> 01:21:19,853
Speaker 3: Is that what's the word I reculably? It's erecta irrecovably

1776
01:21:20,053 --> 01:21:23,732
Speaker 3: I rafica belief horrivocably. Yeah, broken that.

1777
01:21:24,853 --> 01:21:27,732
Speaker 2: We anyone that would even suggests that there's something good

1778
01:21:27,772 --> 01:21:29,133
Speaker 2: going on here is.

1779
01:21:30,372 --> 01:21:32,972
Speaker 3: A part of a conspiracy. We're going to dig ourselves

1780
01:21:32,973 --> 01:21:37,412
Speaker 3: out of this whole. That's bad, bad, I mean, look

1781
01:21:37,492 --> 01:21:37,933
Speaker 3: around you.

1782
01:21:38,253 --> 01:21:41,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, is it is it really that bad that you

1783
01:21:41,253 --> 01:21:45,612
Speaker 2: can't find a single thing to positive to say without

1784
01:21:45,732 --> 01:21:46,692
Speaker 2: somehow being.

1785
01:21:46,572 --> 01:21:54,372
Speaker 3: Part of a massive conspiracy, terrible plan. Oh one hundred

1786
01:21:54,452 --> 01:21:57,612
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Oh, just quickly.

1787
01:21:57,772 --> 01:22:00,293
Speaker 3: Apparently those two free nights do exist.

1788
01:22:00,293 --> 01:22:00,612
Speaker 5: All right?

1789
01:22:00,893 --> 01:22:01,652
Speaker 1: So there you go, mate.

1790
01:22:01,732 --> 01:22:03,492
Speaker 2: We apologies to that person that rang up and I

1791
01:22:03,532 --> 01:22:04,412
Speaker 2: assume they're a scam.

1792
01:22:05,333 --> 01:22:06,532
Speaker 3: May look at me. I'm bad.

1793
01:22:06,612 --> 01:22:08,412
Speaker 2: I'm as bad as this text. I was assuming a

1794
01:22:08,452 --> 01:22:09,652
Speaker 2: conspiracy that wasn't there.

1795
01:22:09,692 --> 01:22:11,892
Speaker 3: There's a lot out there, Mark, how are you mate?

1796
01:22:13,173 --> 01:22:14,452
Speaker 3: Here you go, mate, you're good.

1797
01:22:16,612 --> 01:22:16,772
Speaker 13: Oh.

1798
01:22:16,853 --> 01:22:19,452
Speaker 23: Well, that person that's sent you that little shitty tex

1799
01:22:20,333 --> 01:22:22,652
Speaker 23: if he's burning in his bed, I'm sure his parents

1800
01:22:22,732 --> 01:22:27,412
Speaker 23: told him not to play a matches, so maybe it's

1801
01:22:27,492 --> 01:22:31,612
Speaker 23: and burning himself from bed. He wants to go on

1802
01:22:31,692 --> 01:22:34,253
Speaker 23: about the right wing, Well, then you know he's obviously

1803
01:22:34,412 --> 01:22:38,532
Speaker 23: left hard. But I can't really say that too much. Look,

1804
01:22:39,812 --> 01:22:42,933
Speaker 23: we do have large sections of society that live negatively

1805
01:22:43,053 --> 01:22:43,532
Speaker 23: every day.

1806
01:22:45,173 --> 01:22:46,972
Speaker 22: Social media, the media.

1807
01:22:47,013 --> 01:22:49,333
Speaker 23: Athletes have also got a big, big part to play

1808
01:22:49,333 --> 01:22:51,972
Speaker 23: in that. Because I was listening to the news before

1809
01:22:52,093 --> 01:22:55,133
Speaker 23: you guys come back. The only positive news story was

1810
01:22:55,213 --> 01:22:58,013
Speaker 23: in the sports section. Because everything was either about a

1811
01:22:58,133 --> 01:23:02,412
Speaker 23: pedophile x police commissioner, a teenager was murdered, a tornado

1812
01:23:02,492 --> 01:23:06,692
Speaker 23: destroying something, and you know what I mean. And social

1813
01:23:06,812 --> 01:23:12,093
Speaker 23: media like focuses on so much, is repetatively daily the

1814
01:23:12,173 --> 01:23:15,852
Speaker 23: same thing. If it's not Trump, it's someone else, if

1815
01:23:15,853 --> 01:23:18,412
Speaker 23: it's not Russia and Ukraine and someone else, if it's

1816
01:23:18,812 --> 01:23:22,093
Speaker 23: the endless Palestinian stuff that's going on, you know, and

1817
01:23:22,572 --> 01:23:25,492
Speaker 23: that's what drives and that's what makes money because focusing

1818
01:23:25,532 --> 01:23:28,093
Speaker 23: on the negative stuff all the time. You know, the

1819
01:23:28,173 --> 01:23:30,612
Speaker 23: most negative people I've ever worked with are people that

1820
01:23:30,732 --> 01:23:34,692
Speaker 23: have been in the job at a place for fifteen

1821
01:23:34,772 --> 01:23:36,692
Speaker 23: years or more and all they do is they come

1822
01:23:36,772 --> 01:23:39,412
Speaker 23: to work negative. And I'm a pretty straightforward person.

1823
01:23:39,692 --> 01:23:40,732
Speaker 27: I tell her how it is.

1824
01:23:40,853 --> 01:23:43,492
Speaker 23: It's kind of like, well, why are you pissing a moment? Mate,

1825
01:23:43,612 --> 01:23:46,372
Speaker 23: don't find another job, don't bring everyone else down.

1826
01:23:46,853 --> 01:23:48,053
Speaker 21: You don't like it, move on.

1827
01:23:48,492 --> 01:23:48,652
Speaker 4: You know.

1828
01:23:49,053 --> 01:23:51,852
Speaker 23: The most people positive people that I've ever come across

1829
01:23:51,933 --> 01:23:54,572
Speaker 23: are people that are doer's, you know, people that have

1830
01:23:54,732 --> 01:23:57,333
Speaker 23: worked hard and gone out and got something and they

1831
01:23:57,452 --> 01:24:00,093
Speaker 23: do something. You know, we live in a society where

1832
01:24:00,532 --> 01:24:03,333
Speaker 23: so many people today in generations and large groups of

1833
01:24:03,372 --> 01:24:07,133
Speaker 23: society expect everything for nothing, and they blame everyone and

1834
01:24:07,133 --> 01:24:08,612
Speaker 23: a lot of it comes out of jail, see to

1835
01:24:09,173 --> 01:24:11,852
Speaker 23: like how many how many boomer bashers are out there

1836
01:24:11,893 --> 01:24:14,372
Speaker 23: beginning because oh well, you know they've got all their

1837
01:24:14,412 --> 01:24:17,253
Speaker 23: houses and they did also do that. Don't forget the

1838
01:24:17,333 --> 01:24:19,852
Speaker 23: boom has come from a generation at ft and World

1839
01:24:19,893 --> 01:24:23,173
Speaker 23: War two and fort World War one. So they raised

1840
01:24:23,213 --> 01:24:26,372
Speaker 23: their kids to work hard, save money and get out

1841
01:24:26,452 --> 01:24:30,572
Speaker 23: and go beyond today. You know, if people stop living

1842
01:24:30,812 --> 01:24:34,932
Speaker 23: in the past and stop living their lives on social

1843
01:24:35,053 --> 01:24:37,732
Speaker 23: media and believing everything that as they said, you know,

1844
01:24:38,013 --> 01:24:40,213
Speaker 23: it's just that you just get sick of it and

1845
01:24:40,412 --> 01:24:41,973
Speaker 23: like it's one of you is brought up. We are

1846
01:24:42,053 --> 01:24:44,692
Speaker 23: living in very different weird times.

1847
01:24:45,612 --> 01:24:48,732
Speaker 22: You know, like you had you had a conversation and

1848
01:24:48,812 --> 01:24:50,652
Speaker 22: a topic about you know, as.

1849
01:24:50,612 --> 01:24:54,253
Speaker 23: Lying good or as lying bad. You know, we're always

1850
01:24:54,293 --> 01:24:56,452
Speaker 23: brought up you never to lie, you know, and do

1851
01:24:56,532 --> 01:24:57,053
Speaker 23: stuff like that.

1852
01:24:57,173 --> 01:24:58,452
Speaker 20: But now we've got people.

1853
01:24:59,053 --> 01:25:02,612
Speaker 23: Pretending things that they are they are, and openly we're

1854
01:25:02,652 --> 01:25:06,253
Speaker 23: meant to be accepting people lying. You know, it's just

1855
01:25:06,372 --> 01:25:09,812
Speaker 23: the whole society, Like New Zealand, Look, what's this government.

1856
01:25:09,933 --> 01:25:12,692
Speaker 23: It wouldn't matter if they went and spent twenty million

1857
01:25:12,692 --> 01:25:18,092
Speaker 23: dollars on two new hospitals, people would still be angry

1858
01:25:18,173 --> 01:25:21,452
Speaker 23: faces on social media. People would be still pissing and

1859
01:25:21,572 --> 01:25:24,133
Speaker 23: moaning about it. Look at our armed forces, I mean

1860
01:25:24,293 --> 01:25:27,852
Speaker 23: they were using equipment from the Vetnamy rat. The paid

1861
01:25:27,893 --> 01:25:30,892
Speaker 23: professional people, so they need to pay professional material.

1862
01:25:31,133 --> 01:25:31,772
Speaker 5: They get new.

1863
01:25:31,652 --> 01:25:34,892
Speaker 23: Aircraft, new boats, and you've still got people pissuing them

1864
01:25:34,933 --> 01:25:36,132
Speaker 23: in Oh what about hospitals.

1865
01:25:36,173 --> 01:25:36,612
Speaker 25: What about this?

1866
01:25:37,013 --> 01:25:39,972
Speaker 23: We've always had issues about hospitals and our medical care.

1867
01:25:40,372 --> 01:25:44,013
Speaker 23: Reason why is because our population is getting bigger and

1868
01:25:44,133 --> 01:25:47,253
Speaker 23: it's fast at around the infrastructure, and it has done.

1869
01:25:47,173 --> 01:25:47,892
Speaker 18: That for years.

1870
01:25:48,372 --> 01:25:50,692
Speaker 23: So all the other governments have failed there too, and

1871
01:25:50,732 --> 01:25:53,253
Speaker 23: they're always seen to be blaming the current government.

1872
01:25:54,093 --> 01:25:54,812
Speaker 15: So you know what I mean?

1873
01:25:55,973 --> 01:25:59,853
Speaker 2: I think did you think that there is we the population?

1874
01:26:00,133 --> 01:26:01,452
Speaker 2: And of course I am part of the media, so

1875
01:26:01,492 --> 01:26:04,532
Speaker 2: it probably sounds about hollowing me saying this, But why

1876
01:26:04,612 --> 01:26:08,133
Speaker 2: do we want because the negative stuff attracts us? Isn't

1877
01:26:08,173 --> 01:26:11,532
Speaker 2: that kind of our fault as well? Because where our

1878
01:26:11,612 --> 01:26:14,932
Speaker 2: focuses is where the money goes, right, So we course,

1879
01:26:15,572 --> 01:26:19,213
Speaker 2: so fear and anger get us motivated to watch things

1880
01:26:19,692 --> 01:26:24,892
Speaker 2: more than happiness and you know, positive stories, so that's

1881
01:26:24,933 --> 01:26:26,852
Speaker 2: sort of a failing of all of us as a population,

1882
01:26:26,973 --> 01:26:27,253
Speaker 2: isn't it.

1883
01:26:27,933 --> 01:26:30,852
Speaker 23: Well, of course it is, because it's we've had it

1884
01:26:30,933 --> 01:26:35,173
Speaker 23: drummed into us so many times now, you know, it

1885
01:26:35,333 --> 01:26:37,532
Speaker 23: just becomes natural. You just think, oh, for God, So

1886
01:26:37,692 --> 01:26:38,692
Speaker 23: what are they winging about?

1887
01:26:38,772 --> 01:26:38,892
Speaker 13: Now?

1888
01:26:39,293 --> 01:26:41,572
Speaker 23: You know, you've got people that are professional victims in

1889
01:26:41,612 --> 01:26:45,053
Speaker 23: the society where where nothing's nothing will please them. It

1890
01:26:45,053 --> 01:26:47,973
Speaker 23: wouldn't matter, you know, we've gone away.

1891
01:26:47,812 --> 01:26:52,732
Speaker 22: From reality and common sense and things like.

1892
01:26:52,853 --> 01:26:57,532
Speaker 23: You know, christ Church is prospering because unfortunately the earthquake

1893
01:26:57,612 --> 01:27:00,372
Speaker 23: hit and it said so much money bought into it.

1894
01:27:00,452 --> 01:27:02,932
Speaker 23: It's such a great city. I love christ Church. I'm

1895
01:27:02,933 --> 01:27:04,892
Speaker 23: not I haven't been there for a while, but there's

1896
01:27:04,933 --> 01:27:06,812
Speaker 23: been a lot of businesses leave a lot of other

1897
01:27:07,053 --> 01:27:09,933
Speaker 23: cities to and have gone across Church which have helped it.

1898
01:27:10,412 --> 01:27:12,213
Speaker 23: And there's a lot of doom and gloom around and

1899
01:27:12,253 --> 01:27:15,612
Speaker 23: a lot of other cities like you know, I'm from

1900
01:27:15,732 --> 01:27:18,053
Speaker 23: Dunedin and one you use it from Dunedin, I am,

1901
01:27:18,173 --> 01:27:21,372
Speaker 23: you know, yeah, yeah. And the thing about it is,

1902
01:27:21,532 --> 01:27:24,572
Speaker 23: I could rattle off a dozen or more names of

1903
01:27:24,692 --> 01:27:28,972
Speaker 23: big companies that used to be once employed and mega

1904
01:27:29,093 --> 01:27:31,893
Speaker 23: people and now are all gone. And being shipped to

1905
01:27:31,973 --> 01:27:34,133
Speaker 23: other towns and centers, and then that has a big

1906
01:27:34,213 --> 01:27:36,173
Speaker 23: impact on Dnedan society as well.

1907
01:27:36,372 --> 01:27:39,652
Speaker 3: Definitely, it's that defeatism though, isn't it. That's that you

1908
01:27:39,732 --> 01:27:42,293
Speaker 3: know that things go wrong with with a lot of

1909
01:27:42,333 --> 01:27:44,692
Speaker 3: people's lives, and I've had edge shit that's happened in

1910
01:27:44,732 --> 01:27:47,013
Speaker 3: my life as well. But and I used to be

1911
01:27:47,093 --> 01:27:48,893
Speaker 3: different when I was younger, and I'd admit that that.

1912
01:27:49,093 --> 01:27:52,372
Speaker 3: Maybe I did say, you know, the system stacked against

1913
01:27:52,452 --> 01:27:54,612
Speaker 3: me and woe is me? But I quickly changed that.

1914
01:27:54,692 --> 01:27:57,333
Speaker 3: The only person who can turn things around is myself.

1915
01:27:57,412 --> 01:27:59,213
Speaker 3: But is that you know when things are going wrong,

1916
01:27:59,333 --> 01:28:02,213
Speaker 3: do you just roll over and say, uh, woe is me?

1917
01:28:02,532 --> 01:28:04,612
Speaker 3: Or do you actually stand up and say, n bugger

1918
01:28:04,652 --> 01:28:06,173
Speaker 3: this for a joke. I'm going to push hard and

1919
01:28:06,293 --> 01:28:07,132
Speaker 3: change things myself.

1920
01:28:08,652 --> 01:28:11,532
Speaker 23: Well you have, And that's the thing about it is,

1921
01:28:11,652 --> 01:28:15,293
Speaker 23: but whenever you push hard and whenever you tell someone

1922
01:28:15,412 --> 01:28:18,732
Speaker 23: the truth, whether it's reality about a situation or that person,

1923
01:28:19,692 --> 01:28:22,372
Speaker 23: what's the most common thing today in New Zealand about

1924
01:28:22,412 --> 01:28:25,293
Speaker 23: two things. You're either in this country if you tell

1925
01:28:25,372 --> 01:28:27,692
Speaker 23: the truth, you're either a beggar if you tell the truth,

1926
01:28:27,812 --> 01:28:30,053
Speaker 23: or you don't accept something because you know it's not real.

1927
01:28:30,492 --> 01:28:34,372
Speaker 23: You're either you're either racist, or you're a homophobe, or

1928
01:28:34,372 --> 01:28:38,893
Speaker 23: you're transgender. That's all the things that now are on.

1929
01:28:39,692 --> 01:28:40,972
Speaker 23: That's how society runs.

1930
01:28:41,452 --> 01:28:42,333
Speaker 13: I mean, you walk the.

1931
01:28:42,333 --> 01:28:45,133
Speaker 23: Wrong way, you get called something, you look different, you

1932
01:28:46,253 --> 01:28:48,732
Speaker 23: say something about common sense. The thing about is truth

1933
01:28:48,772 --> 01:28:52,253
Speaker 23: and reality in society today, there's an evil word for

1934
01:28:52,293 --> 01:28:52,892
Speaker 23: a lot of people.

1935
01:28:53,133 --> 01:28:55,852
Speaker 2: It's interesting you say that, though, Mark, because this person's

1936
01:28:55,893 --> 01:28:58,732
Speaker 2: texting in saying stop gaslighting us. New Zealand sucks. You

1937
01:28:58,812 --> 01:29:00,972
Speaker 2: think your words are magic. If you say it's good,

1938
01:29:01,053 --> 01:29:04,572
Speaker 2: it will be good. Ball there is nothing good.

1939
01:29:04,893 --> 01:29:05,692
Speaker 3: So people are.

1940
01:29:05,612 --> 01:29:08,333
Speaker 2: Saying that what I'm saying is trying to bend reality

1941
01:29:08,572 --> 01:29:10,612
Speaker 2: by I'm saying that you can change your narrative and

1942
01:29:11,053 --> 01:29:14,973
Speaker 2: describe something in a positive way, will make it more positive,

1943
01:29:15,253 --> 01:29:18,372
Speaker 2: as in some way not dealing with reality as it is.

1944
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Speaker 3: What do you say to that?

1945
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Speaker 23: Oh, look, it's basically just the whole poor me syndrome.

1946
01:29:23,572 --> 01:29:26,412
Speaker 23: You know what, Times are tough, Times are hard. We've

1947
01:29:26,452 --> 01:29:28,732
Speaker 23: all got to pull together. And if you don't do it,

1948
01:29:28,893 --> 01:29:31,173
Speaker 23: and you want to sit back and blame everyone else

1949
01:29:31,253 --> 01:29:34,052
Speaker 23: because you can't put food on the table, you can't

1950
01:29:34,093 --> 01:29:37,173
Speaker 23: pay the bills, or you don't get that many lights

1951
01:29:37,173 --> 01:29:39,772
Speaker 23: on your social media page. Maybe it's time for people

1952
01:29:39,812 --> 01:29:41,053
Speaker 23: in this country to grow up.

1953
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Speaker 3: Thank you for your call, myke powerful call. Oh one

1954
01:29:44,452 --> 01:29:46,572
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten to eighty is the number to call

1955
01:29:46,652 --> 01:29:48,813
Speaker 3: love to get your thoughts about is there a negativity

1956
01:29:48,893 --> 01:29:50,772
Speaker 3: bias in this country? And if there is, how do

1957
01:29:50,853 --> 01:29:53,732
Speaker 3: we turn it around? It is twenty past three US talks.

1958
01:29:53,772 --> 01:29:56,333
Speaker 3: It'd be twenty three pass three, a whole bunch of

1959
01:29:56,372 --> 01:29:57,213
Speaker 3: techs coming through.

1960
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Speaker 2: Getting a better push back on the positivity we're trying

1961
01:29:59,732 --> 01:30:03,213
Speaker 2: to push here, the positive narrative we're trying to change.

1962
01:30:04,093 --> 01:30:07,013
Speaker 2: Part of resolving a problem is recognizing a problem and

1963
01:30:07,173 --> 01:30:09,933
Speaker 2: doing something about it. Is this text just talking it

1964
01:30:10,093 --> 01:30:11,933
Speaker 2: up and thinking that that is going to cut it?

1965
01:30:12,053 --> 01:30:15,492
Speaker 2: As a croc don't say do Christ has had huge

1966
01:30:15,532 --> 01:30:17,892
Speaker 2: investment and that's been fourteen years in the making. Yeah,

1967
01:30:17,933 --> 01:30:19,612
Speaker 2: it was a long time to turn it around before

1968
01:30:19,652 --> 01:30:24,173
Speaker 2: the narrative started. But it's not about the narrative. Isn't

1969
01:30:24,173 --> 01:30:28,852
Speaker 2: about not recognizing the challenges. It's about looking at the

1970
01:30:28,973 --> 01:30:31,772
Speaker 2: challenges and taking them head on because you think it's

1971
01:30:31,893 --> 01:30:35,652
Speaker 2: worth doing that, you think it's worth saving and it's possible.

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Speaker 2: So the point of the article that we're talking about

1973
01:30:39,412 --> 01:30:43,652
Speaker 2: here that's in the Herald today as basically, and I'm

1974
01:30:43,692 --> 01:30:46,612
Speaker 2: paraphrasing and adding my own words to the point of

1975
01:30:46,652 --> 01:30:48,692
Speaker 2: the article. But if you keep repeating that a place

1976
01:30:48,812 --> 01:30:51,572
Speaker 2: is a no hope poohole, it will never get better.

1977
01:30:51,973 --> 01:30:54,492
Speaker 2: If your narrative is we're lucky to be here, this

1978
01:30:54,652 --> 01:30:57,732
Speaker 2: place has its challenges, but it's amazing and it's worth

1979
01:30:57,853 --> 01:31:01,253
Speaker 2: fighting for, then maybe you'll fight for it and make

1980
01:31:01,293 --> 01:31:03,532
Speaker 2: it better. Yeah, But if you just constantly run it

1981
01:31:03,652 --> 01:31:09,492
Speaker 2: down and say it's a no hoper, then you don't

1982
01:31:09,532 --> 01:31:12,092
Speaker 2: have the motivation exactly. So then you see the problems

1983
01:31:12,173 --> 01:31:14,452
Speaker 2: just just further evidence of there's no point in doing anything.

1984
01:31:14,652 --> 01:31:17,812
Speaker 2: Whereas if you have the narrative that we're lucky to

1985
01:31:17,893 --> 01:31:20,013
Speaker 2: be here, it's got its challenges, but we can make

1986
01:31:20,093 --> 01:31:22,173
Speaker 2: it better, then you see those problems, you look at

1987
01:31:22,173 --> 01:31:23,372
Speaker 2: the full on and go what can I do to

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01:31:23,412 --> 01:31:24,492
Speaker 2: help solve those problems?

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Being in that mindset it makes a big difference.

1991
01:31:26,692 --> 01:31:29,213
Speaker 2: You're still recognizing the problems just as much, but your

1992
01:31:29,412 --> 01:31:32,013
Speaker 2: just viewers as that you're not giving in to them.

1993
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Speaker 2: You're saying, well, That's what I've got to focus on

1994
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Speaker 2: because I think it's worth doing and it's already great,

1995
01:31:37,652 --> 01:31:38,253
Speaker 2: but we can make it.

1996
01:31:38,293 --> 01:31:41,053
Speaker 3: Better solving problems. Yeah, absolutely right, taking more of your

1997
01:31:41,133 --> 01:31:43,492
Speaker 3: calls on OH eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. We're

1998
01:31:43,492 --> 01:31:45,652
Speaker 3: a little bit late here, but when we come back,

1999
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Speaker 3: we have a chat with Glenn who reckons New Zealand

2000
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Speaker 3: is awesome. It is twenty four past three.

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Speaker 1: Matd Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons call OH eight hundred eighty

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01:31:57,772 --> 01:31:59,572
Speaker 1: ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: For Good Afternoon due twenty seven past three. Welcome with

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Speaker 3: the show.

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Speaker 2: Glenn, your thoughts on New Zealand.

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Speaker 27: First time caller, enjoy your.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you for listening, thank you

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Speaker 2: for calling.

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Speaker 22: No problem.

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Speaker 27: Bit of history. We came to New Zealand first in

2011
01:32:17,013 --> 01:32:20,013
Speaker 27: two thousand and four from ninety Mile Beach all the

2012
01:32:20,053 --> 01:32:23,253
Speaker 27: way down to christ Church East and West Coast to

2013
01:32:23,333 --> 01:32:26,452
Speaker 27: make sure this is where we wanted to stay. We

2014
01:32:26,572 --> 01:32:28,812
Speaker 27: went back and came back in twenty eleven to shoot

2015
01:32:28,812 --> 01:32:32,412
Speaker 27: a film with Peter Jackson in Wellington's. We couldn't extend

2016
01:32:32,492 --> 01:32:34,452
Speaker 27: our visa so we had to go back to South

2017
01:32:34,452 --> 01:32:38,293
Speaker 27: Africa originally and We came back in twenty sixteen with

2018
01:32:38,372 --> 01:32:40,452
Speaker 27: a job offer and we have been here ten years.

2019
01:32:40,492 --> 01:32:43,452
Speaker 27: We are now citizens. So I'm half QB. I don't

2020
01:32:43,452 --> 01:32:45,652
Speaker 27: know if it's the top half or bottom half, but

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01:32:45,933 --> 01:32:49,053
Speaker 27: I'm half q so I'm a half breed. But from

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01:32:49,093 --> 01:32:52,333
Speaker 27: where we come in from this discussion, I've been blessed

2023
01:32:52,372 --> 01:32:56,333
Speaker 27: to live in five countries. I speak seven languages, and

2024
01:32:57,133 --> 01:32:58,852
Speaker 27: coming to New Zealand and seeing what the rest of

2025
01:32:58,853 --> 01:33:02,532
Speaker 27: the world's like. I always say to people New Zealand

2026
01:33:02,652 --> 01:33:06,253
Speaker 27: is like living in a postcard. It is just you

2027
01:33:06,372 --> 01:33:09,413
Speaker 27: want to be here all the time. We've traveled extensively.

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01:33:09,532 --> 01:33:12,492
Speaker 27: The beach is a great the crime late rate is

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01:33:12,612 --> 01:33:15,053
Speaker 27: rich in nor The fact is you can have a

2030
01:33:15,133 --> 01:33:18,012
Speaker 27: dog and gold places with it, and every single beach

2031
01:33:18,133 --> 01:33:23,133
Speaker 27: is pristine. Everything works ats first world and my family

2032
01:33:23,173 --> 01:33:25,652
Speaker 27: and I are now here permanently in our kiwis and

2033
01:33:27,293 --> 01:33:29,692
Speaker 27: I still support all blacks, and my wife and sons

2034
01:33:29,732 --> 01:33:31,972
Speaker 27: of the other side of the lounge and throw cushions

2035
01:33:32,013 --> 01:33:34,973
Speaker 27: at me because they supposed support the spring box. But

2036
01:33:36,572 --> 01:33:40,412
Speaker 27: there's there's just absolute splendid to live here, and I

2037
01:33:40,492 --> 01:33:42,973
Speaker 27: find we won't have the naysayers that are bitter in

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01:33:43,133 --> 01:33:46,213
Speaker 27: themselves and they won't have something negative to say. But

2039
01:33:46,772 --> 01:33:49,253
Speaker 27: we've lived in Auckland, We've lived in Smell's Beach, we've

2040
01:33:49,293 --> 01:33:53,173
Speaker 27: lived in christ Church and in Wellington, and there's nowhere

2041
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Speaker 27: else I would like my family to be. We brought

2042
01:33:56,532 --> 01:33:59,133
Speaker 27: our son here so that he's got a future, and

2043
01:33:59,253 --> 01:34:01,412
Speaker 27: we just gove New Zealand from the top end of

2044
01:34:01,492 --> 01:34:03,572
Speaker 27: the Top Island to the bottom end of the South Island.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome.

2046
01:34:04,973 --> 01:34:08,532
Speaker 2: That's so great to hear, Glenn, But you do you

2047
01:34:08,612 --> 01:34:10,492
Speaker 2: hear a lot of negativity from New Zealanders?

2048
01:34:10,612 --> 01:34:11,732
Speaker 3: Would they be true to say.

2049
01:34:12,532 --> 01:34:15,173
Speaker 27: One hundred percent? And generally what I said to them

2050
01:34:15,253 --> 01:34:17,093
Speaker 27: is I say, suck it up by the cup, make

2051
01:34:17,612 --> 01:34:20,692
Speaker 27: a change, don't moan about it. If you do nothing

2052
01:34:20,732 --> 01:34:23,892
Speaker 27: about it, you're owner the right to moan. And most

2053
01:34:23,933 --> 01:34:26,372
Speaker 27: of them get offended. But what I have found out

2054
01:34:26,452 --> 01:34:30,333
Speaker 27: is that your mainstream media does have a very negative

2055
01:34:30,372 --> 01:34:34,093
Speaker 27: slant on everything. And it's obviously sensationalism. We understand that.

2056
01:34:35,093 --> 01:34:37,852
Speaker 27: But if people just take what they want out of

2057
01:34:37,933 --> 01:34:40,372
Speaker 27: the negative and they don't try and find the positive,

2058
01:34:40,893 --> 01:34:42,572
Speaker 27: then they're going to just remain in the toilet for

2059
01:34:42,652 --> 01:34:46,133
Speaker 27: the rest of their lives. And you know if you look,

2060
01:34:46,293 --> 01:34:48,013
Speaker 27: if you lying fat on your back, you can only

2061
01:34:48,093 --> 01:34:51,852
Speaker 27: look up Auckland, Queen Street. I love Queen Street. I

2062
01:34:51,973 --> 01:34:54,013
Speaker 27: don't see what the problem is that people moaning about it.

2063
01:34:54,133 --> 01:34:58,253
Speaker 27: We love Auckland and the Violet. We we love New Zealand.

2064
01:34:58,333 --> 01:35:01,293
Speaker 27: We now live in christ Church and we are blessed

2065
01:35:01,333 --> 01:35:04,093
Speaker 27: beyond words. I don't know what people moan. And then

2066
01:35:04,213 --> 01:35:06,572
Speaker 27: when we have to have to look. As in one

2067
01:35:06,612 --> 01:35:08,933
Speaker 27: of the African countries I lived in, it was the

2068
01:35:08,973 --> 01:35:13,013
Speaker 27: first time I've ever experienced poor poppy and then I thought, oh,

2069
01:35:13,053 --> 01:35:16,413
Speaker 27: that was terrible. Come to New Zealand. I never expected

2070
01:35:16,452 --> 01:35:20,013
Speaker 27: that that tall poppy is so civil and channel. I

2071
01:35:20,013 --> 01:35:21,532
Speaker 27: don't want to be up strap dress when I talk

2072
01:35:21,572 --> 01:35:24,213
Speaker 27: about it. I want to encourage people to, hey, you know,

2073
01:35:24,333 --> 01:35:26,572
Speaker 27: lift your eyes up a bit, look for the good,

2074
01:35:26,652 --> 01:35:32,452
Speaker 27: and you will find the good. Beautiful New Zealand is

2075
01:35:32,532 --> 01:35:37,532
Speaker 27: absolt bloody, locally awesome. Everything works, first world, You've got

2076
01:35:37,612 --> 01:35:40,452
Speaker 27: everything on tap. I mean, the government support to the

2077
01:35:40,492 --> 01:35:43,173
Speaker 27: people is are amazing. And sometimes I think it's maybe

2078
01:35:43,213 --> 01:35:46,852
Speaker 27: because we've cultured in any state where the government looks

2079
01:35:46,933 --> 01:35:48,732
Speaker 27: offer us too much and things don't go the way

2080
01:35:48,772 --> 01:35:51,492
Speaker 27: we want to throw a little kantrum. But yes I

2081
01:35:51,532 --> 01:35:53,412
Speaker 27: said that people don't show your toys out the cut

2082
01:35:54,133 --> 01:35:56,732
Speaker 27: you live in You live in a paradise except for

2083
01:35:56,853 --> 01:35:59,213
Speaker 27: what it is, and if you don't like it, bring

2084
01:35:59,333 --> 01:36:00,132
Speaker 27: about change.

2085
01:36:00,612 --> 01:36:02,812
Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much, Glenn. You can ring anytime

2086
01:36:02,933 --> 01:36:05,732
Speaker 3: mate here. That's the sort of people we need more

2087
01:36:05,812 --> 01:36:09,212
Speaker 3: Glens in this country. I mean things in a perspective

2088
01:36:09,253 --> 01:36:11,013
Speaker 3: of that last line. You live in paradise and if

2089
01:36:11,013 --> 01:36:12,852
Speaker 3: you don't like it, do something about it. Glenn, you're

2090
01:36:12,893 --> 01:36:15,093
Speaker 3: a great New Zealander. Thank you very much. Oh one

2091
01:36:15,173 --> 01:36:17,253
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty see number of core headlines

2092
01:36:17,293 --> 01:36:18,093
Speaker 3: with Raleigh.

2093
01:36:17,812 --> 01:36:23,693
Speaker 1: Next you talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis.

2094
01:36:23,933 --> 01:36:25,732
Speaker 3: It's no trouble with a blue bubble.

2095
01:36:26,253 --> 01:36:30,933
Speaker 16: Social Investment Agency head Andrew Costa has apologized and resigned

2096
01:36:31,372 --> 01:36:34,652
Speaker 16: in the fall art from an IPCA report criticizing a

2097
01:36:34,772 --> 01:36:38,732
Speaker 16: number of senior police management when he was commissioner. The

2098
01:36:38,853 --> 01:36:43,412
Speaker 16: Veterinary Council has censured and fined Auckland restauranteur Leo Maloy,

2099
01:36:43,732 --> 01:36:45,972
Speaker 16: who was a practicing VET when he breached a court

2100
01:36:46,053 --> 01:36:50,012
Speaker 16: suppression order by naming the murderer of backpacker Grace Mulane

2101
01:36:51,133 --> 01:36:54,213
Speaker 16: A second seventeen year old is being charged with murder

2102
01:36:54,532 --> 01:36:57,093
Speaker 16: over the death of a US PhD student at an

2103
01:36:57,093 --> 01:37:02,053
Speaker 16: Auckland bus stop in April. Catastrophic flooding and landslides after

2104
01:37:02,173 --> 01:37:06,413
Speaker 16: monsoon rain has killed more than thirteen hundred people in Indonesia,

2105
01:37:06,492 --> 01:37:10,213
Speaker 16: Sri Lanka, Thailand and Malie Asia. Nearly one thousand are

2106
01:37:10,293 --> 01:37:14,692
Speaker 16: still missing, with food scarce and no clean water. A

2107
01:37:14,772 --> 01:37:17,652
Speaker 16: survey's farm two thirds of Wellingtonians want a second Mont

2108
01:37:17,772 --> 01:37:21,412
Speaker 16: Victoria tunnel to the airport, and almost three quarters support

2109
01:37:21,452 --> 01:37:25,492
Speaker 16: a plan to improve roading around the Basin Reserve. Act

2110
01:37:25,612 --> 01:37:29,572
Speaker 16: Party chief of staff Andrew Cartels is quitting this month.

2111
01:37:30,692 --> 01:37:35,092
Speaker 16: A new Marii Cacah quarry approved near Hastings following court saga.

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Speaker 16: You can see more at Ensen Herald Premium. Now back

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01:37:38,133 --> 01:37:39,452
Speaker 16: to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

2114
01:37:39,532 --> 01:37:41,972
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Ray Lean. So we're talking about

2115
01:37:42,093 --> 01:37:45,133
Speaker 3: negativity bias in New Zealand? Is that a thing? Are

2116
01:37:45,213 --> 01:37:48,412
Speaker 3: we falling into a trap of beating this country down

2117
01:37:48,572 --> 01:37:51,053
Speaker 3: instead of looking at the mass of positives there are

2118
01:37:51,492 --> 01:37:53,852
Speaker 3: for living in New Zealand and a city like Auckland, Oh.

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01:37:53,893 --> 01:37:56,812
Speaker 3: Eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number. Helen,

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show.

2121
01:37:58,572 --> 01:38:02,612
Speaker 30: Hi, Hi guys. Hey, I'm hell on wheels, Madame Otta hobbiton.

2122
01:38:03,293 --> 01:38:07,452
Speaker 30: I've got a secret. Yep, don't tell anyone. I have

2123
01:38:07,853 --> 01:38:11,692
Speaker 30: read and want to promote a book. It's called A

2124
01:38:11,772 --> 01:38:19,333
Speaker 30: Bust Secret and it's by Rhonda Brian b y r N. Basically,

2125
01:38:20,812 --> 01:38:24,652
Speaker 30: you read it, you can. You can not read it

2126
01:38:24,732 --> 01:38:28,213
Speaker 30: like a book. You've got different chapters. It basically is

2127
01:38:28,293 --> 01:38:32,652
Speaker 30: not based on any religion. It teaches you to be

2128
01:38:32,933 --> 01:38:36,412
Speaker 30: a human, treat people the way you want to be treated,

2129
01:38:37,333 --> 01:38:42,612
Speaker 30: and everyone will be happy. I've read this book. I

2130
01:38:42,732 --> 01:38:44,492
Speaker 30: keep on going back to it and reading it and

2131
01:38:44,572 --> 01:38:45,692
Speaker 30: reading it when I'm down.

2132
01:38:46,372 --> 01:38:48,013
Speaker 8: I read it and you know.

2133
01:38:48,053 --> 01:38:50,213
Speaker 30: How you sort of wish for a parking place at

2134
01:38:50,213 --> 01:38:53,213
Speaker 30: the shopping malls and you go to the dentist and

2135
01:38:53,333 --> 01:38:55,612
Speaker 30: it's like, oh, I'm running late. Is there a parking

2136
01:38:55,692 --> 01:38:58,612
Speaker 30: in front of the dentist? I say, yes, there will

2137
01:38:58,612 --> 01:39:01,013
Speaker 30: be a parking in front of the dentist. Yes, there

2138
01:39:01,053 --> 01:39:03,492
Speaker 30: will be a parking at the shopping mall right outside

2139
01:39:03,812 --> 01:39:06,293
Speaker 30: whatever short store. And it's at I swear to you

2140
01:39:06,532 --> 01:39:11,173
Speaker 30: it happens positivema. Lots of people know about it. Half

2141
01:39:11,652 --> 01:39:15,293
Speaker 30: fifty percent. Fifty percent don't believe it. All I'm asking

2142
01:39:15,732 --> 01:39:18,812
Speaker 30: is to you and your listeners, just try it. Just

2143
01:39:19,173 --> 01:39:22,452
Speaker 30: go for that car park. My health's improved because I've

2144
01:39:22,492 --> 01:39:25,532
Speaker 30: read this book. My relationships improved. But we won't go

2145
01:39:25,572 --> 01:39:25,893
Speaker 30: into that.

2146
01:39:26,452 --> 01:39:26,652
Speaker 3: Cool.

2147
01:39:26,973 --> 01:39:28,012
Speaker 10: It's basically good.

2148
01:39:29,133 --> 01:39:32,892
Speaker 30: Yeah, the premises just treat people the way you want

2149
01:39:32,933 --> 01:39:33,452
Speaker 30: to be treated.

2150
01:39:33,652 --> 01:39:35,812
Speaker 3: Well, that's a nice yeah. I think I think a

2151
01:39:35,853 --> 01:39:37,013
Speaker 3: lot of people can take heat on that.

2152
01:39:37,213 --> 01:39:37,412
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2153
01:39:37,933 --> 01:39:39,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, treat people nice if they treat you nice. I

2154
01:39:39,933 --> 01:39:41,892
Speaker 3: think there's a nice message in that. And who doesn't

2155
01:39:41,933 --> 01:39:42,812
Speaker 3: want a car park?

2156
01:39:43,093 --> 01:39:43,293
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2157
01:39:43,372 --> 01:39:45,452
Speaker 2: I mean Oprah was all about the secret, wasn't she?

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Speaker 3: She was, she loves it.

2159
01:39:46,532 --> 01:39:50,052
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot to be said for positive affirmation.

2160
01:39:50,173 --> 01:39:52,293
Speaker 2: If you're looking for things to be bad all the time,

2161
01:39:53,053 --> 01:39:56,492
Speaker 2: then then you'll notice you'll have a bias to seeing

2162
01:39:56,612 --> 01:39:59,412
Speaker 2: things being terrible at the time. You know, if you

2163
01:39:59,532 --> 01:40:01,893
Speaker 2: have a bias where you think that people mistreat you

2164
01:40:01,933 --> 01:40:05,813
Speaker 2: all the time, then you'll see. There's this this fantastic

2165
01:40:05,893 --> 01:40:09,293
Speaker 2: study where they addressed there was they happened to be

2166
01:40:09,333 --> 01:40:10,052
Speaker 2: women in the study.

2167
01:40:10,173 --> 01:40:10,692
Speaker 3: I can't remember.

2168
01:40:10,772 --> 01:40:14,333
Speaker 2: I think it was Harvard study, and so they put

2169
01:40:14,452 --> 01:40:16,532
Speaker 2: makeup on them and said that you've got a terrible

2170
01:40:16,572 --> 01:40:18,852
Speaker 2: scar on your face, right, And then they sent them

2171
01:40:19,253 --> 01:40:22,333
Speaker 2: into these job interviews, the real job interviews, yep, and

2172
01:40:23,213 --> 01:40:25,572
Speaker 2: the people that had the scars on their faces went

2173
01:40:25,652 --> 01:40:27,372
Speaker 2: in and said that they were picked on because of

2174
01:40:27,692 --> 01:40:29,932
Speaker 2: the scar in their face. The people wouldn't even choose

2175
01:40:30,013 --> 01:40:32,652
Speaker 2: them because of it, that they were prejudiced towards them

2176
01:40:32,652 --> 01:40:33,213
Speaker 2: because they had the.

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01:40:33,173 --> 01:40:33,892
Speaker 3: Scar in their face.

2178
01:40:34,133 --> 01:40:36,213
Speaker 2: And then it was revealed that just before they'd gone out,

2179
01:40:36,412 --> 01:40:38,053
Speaker 2: the last piece of putting the scar on the face

2180
01:40:38,173 --> 01:40:41,213
Speaker 2: was removing it, right, So they went into the meeting

2181
01:40:41,333 --> 01:40:43,732
Speaker 2: assuming that they were going to be judged for the

2182
01:40:43,772 --> 01:40:45,652
Speaker 2: scar in their face, and that was what they came

2183
01:40:45,692 --> 01:40:46,932
Speaker 2: out of believing had happened.

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01:40:47,013 --> 01:40:47,133
Speaker 7: Right.

2185
01:40:47,253 --> 01:40:49,012
Speaker 3: That is fascinating. What a great study.

2186
01:40:49,133 --> 01:40:52,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a really interesting thing and a lesson for life.

2187
01:40:52,412 --> 01:40:54,412
Speaker 2: Whether there are mind bullets that you can send out

2188
01:40:54,452 --> 01:40:58,412
Speaker 2: into the world that actually alter what's going on, I

2189
01:40:58,492 --> 01:41:01,372
Speaker 2: don't know. I like some people say that we can

2190
01:41:01,452 --> 01:41:04,412
Speaker 2: picture our dreams and the universe will provide I don't

2191
01:41:04,412 --> 01:41:06,972
Speaker 2: know about that. I don't know if worhing can change anything.

2192
01:41:07,133 --> 01:41:09,333
Speaker 2: And look, the universe is seems to be quite likely

2193
01:41:09,412 --> 01:41:14,132
Speaker 2: to throw challenges your way more than help you. If

2194
01:41:14,173 --> 01:41:16,133
Speaker 2: there are things that you want to achieve, you probably

2195
01:41:16,173 --> 01:41:19,652
Speaker 2: have to work for them. Yeah, you know, and make

2196
01:41:19,692 --> 01:41:22,213
Speaker 2: the right decisions. But you know, you can make things

2197
01:41:22,253 --> 01:41:24,933
Speaker 2: easier for yourself by learning to sort of handle what

2198
01:41:25,133 --> 01:41:27,852
Speaker 2: happens and having a more positive attitude to the things

2199
01:41:28,293 --> 01:41:28,852
Speaker 2: that happen.

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01:41:29,293 --> 01:41:32,253
Speaker 3: I would say definitely, Brendan, We've got about sixty seconds,

2201
01:41:32,333 --> 01:41:33,093
Speaker 3: my friend. How are you?

2202
01:41:34,133 --> 01:41:34,333
Speaker 28: Yeah?

2203
01:41:34,372 --> 01:41:34,852
Speaker 13: Good, good good?

2204
01:41:35,013 --> 01:41:35,133
Speaker 4: Hey.

2205
01:41:35,173 --> 01:41:37,492
Speaker 13: Look. The one thing I come to is I spend

2206
01:41:37,492 --> 01:41:38,973
Speaker 13: a lot of time overseas coming back to you.

2207
01:41:39,093 --> 01:41:39,213
Speaker 16: Jim.

2208
01:41:39,492 --> 01:41:43,252
Speaker 13: New Zealanders are amazing and sabulous, but dishonest with themselves

2209
01:41:43,293 --> 01:41:46,893
Speaker 13: and their friends in their speech, not dishonest inherently. We

2210
01:41:47,053 --> 01:41:49,572
Speaker 13: say things like yeah, year Na, you know you're okay,

2211
01:41:49,732 --> 01:41:53,652
Speaker 13: year and ah, maybe you know. If you're in trouble,

2212
01:41:53,772 --> 01:41:56,692
Speaker 13: people around you really want to help. And it's amazing

2213
01:41:56,812 --> 01:41:58,892
Speaker 13: how few times people have said to me when I said, ay,

2214
01:41:58,893 --> 01:42:02,253
Speaker 13: you're okay, mate, and they've said, actually, no, nice, some help. Yeah,

2215
01:42:02,492 --> 01:42:06,013
Speaker 13: if you ask for help, you'll be staggered how many

2216
01:42:06,093 --> 01:42:08,692
Speaker 13: people want to give it to you. But you just

2217
01:42:08,772 --> 01:42:10,612
Speaker 13: have to ask, and you have to be really honest

2218
01:42:10,652 --> 01:42:13,452
Speaker 13: with yourself. And I think out of everything that I'm

2219
01:42:13,492 --> 01:42:17,452
Speaker 13: listening to. Communication. We have more access to more amazing

2220
01:42:17,492 --> 01:42:21,173
Speaker 13: information on Internet now than ever before. Internet's a fire.

2221
01:42:21,372 --> 01:42:22,852
Speaker 13: You can use it to heat your home or you

2222
01:42:22,893 --> 01:42:25,253
Speaker 13: can use it to burn it down. Go in line,

2223
01:42:25,333 --> 01:42:28,693
Speaker 13: have a look at some of the great information and yeah, communication,

2224
01:42:29,372 --> 01:42:31,173
Speaker 13: apply that in your daily life.

2225
01:42:31,532 --> 01:42:33,213
Speaker 10: Be honest with yourself, be honest with others.

2226
01:42:33,293 --> 01:42:34,732
Speaker 13: You'll be surprised the response to you.

2227
01:42:34,812 --> 01:42:36,492
Speaker 2: To you, I think, oh, thank you so much for

2228
01:42:36,532 --> 01:42:39,732
Speaker 2: your cool Brendan, how good? Yeah, some positive you talk.

2229
01:42:39,973 --> 01:42:41,772
Speaker 2: I've got a bunch of friends from overseas that come

2230
01:42:41,772 --> 01:42:43,333
Speaker 2: and try and do sales here in New Zealand, and

2231
01:42:43,412 --> 01:42:45,612
Speaker 2: they say, takes you about a year to realize that

2232
01:42:45,692 --> 01:42:47,293
Speaker 2: New Zealander is lie to you because they want to

2233
01:42:47,333 --> 01:42:49,492
Speaker 2: be nice. So they go, yeah, yeah we might, Yeah

2234
01:42:49,572 --> 01:42:51,412
Speaker 2: you will get back to you on that, Maybe we

2235
01:42:51,492 --> 01:42:51,973
Speaker 2: will buy that.

2236
01:42:52,213 --> 01:42:53,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, we're interested, yep, yep.

2237
01:42:53,652 --> 01:42:54,973
Speaker 2: And you go, just give me a year and no

2238
01:42:55,013 --> 01:42:56,692
Speaker 2: you're going to be oh, look, I'll get back to

2239
01:42:56,732 --> 01:42:59,172
Speaker 2: you because I don't want to say knowing And actually

2240
01:43:00,053 --> 01:43:02,612
Speaker 2: a soft yis that just you know? Or a lack

2241
01:43:02,692 --> 01:43:05,092
Speaker 2: of no is the worse thing, because you're just bleeding

2242
01:43:05,133 --> 01:43:05,932
Speaker 2: people out over time.

2243
01:43:06,013 --> 01:43:07,012
Speaker 3: Yeah, string them along.

2244
01:43:07,492 --> 01:43:09,932
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's kind of just to say, na, not really

2245
01:43:10,013 --> 01:43:11,732
Speaker 2: our thing, mate, and then that person can spend their

2246
01:43:11,812 --> 01:43:12,972
Speaker 2: time you know elsewhere.

2247
01:43:13,133 --> 01:43:13,293
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2248
01:43:13,412 --> 01:43:15,972
Speaker 3: So true, right, good discussion.

2249
01:43:16,293 --> 01:43:18,372
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, just to sum it up, I think I

2250
01:43:18,412 --> 01:43:20,093
Speaker 2: think there are people in New Zealand to take a

2251
01:43:20,093 --> 01:43:22,932
Speaker 2: lot of pressure and pleasure and running things down, complaining

2252
01:43:22,973 --> 01:43:24,892
Speaker 2: but not doing anything to make things better. And I think,

2253
01:43:25,452 --> 01:43:27,772
Speaker 2: you know, you have to be realistic, but I think

2254
01:43:27,812 --> 01:43:30,972
Speaker 2: we need to change the narrative from everything is terrible

2255
01:43:31,093 --> 01:43:36,013
Speaker 2: and unsolvable to something like, there are challenges, but there

2256
01:43:36,093 --> 01:43:39,013
Speaker 2: is so much good in this country and we're so

2257
01:43:39,213 --> 01:43:42,572
Speaker 2: lucky to be here, so it is worth fighting to

2258
01:43:42,652 --> 01:43:44,893
Speaker 2: make it even better something like that, you know what

2259
01:43:44,893 --> 01:43:47,173
Speaker 2: I mean? Yea, Because it's so easy to run things down.

2260
01:43:47,333 --> 01:43:47,892
Speaker 3: It is easy.

2261
01:43:48,053 --> 01:43:49,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, And look at all the abuse that we've got

2262
01:43:50,053 --> 01:43:52,052
Speaker 2: from for trying to be positive.

2263
01:43:52,213 --> 01:43:53,812
Speaker 3: Case and points. Yeah, case and point.

2264
01:43:53,853 --> 01:43:56,093
Speaker 2: We've been accused of being paid off by a big

2265
01:43:56,173 --> 01:43:58,732
Speaker 2: brother to try and push a narrative. Yeah, just because

2266
01:43:58,772 --> 01:44:01,293
Speaker 2: it's so crazy for people to hear people trying to

2267
01:44:01,293 --> 01:44:02,173
Speaker 2: be positive about something.

2268
01:44:02,532 --> 01:44:04,772
Speaker 3: But to those people who take through saying yes to

2269
01:44:04,853 --> 01:44:07,293
Speaker 3: more positivity, you are great Kiwis and you're going to

2270
01:44:07,333 --> 01:44:09,093
Speaker 3: turn this country around. Thank you very much.

2271
01:44:09,253 --> 01:44:11,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, as the stixer said, that's Seph for Glenn is

2272
01:44:11,412 --> 01:44:12,213
Speaker 2: a great New Zealander.

2273
01:44:12,293 --> 01:44:14,133
Speaker 3: He was a great man, right, Come it up. Next,

2274
01:44:14,372 --> 01:44:16,013
Speaker 3: we're gonna have a chat with Alex Powell from the

2275
01:44:16,093 --> 01:44:22,052
Speaker 3: New Zealand Herald Sports team. Fantastic news overnight, Liam Lawsome, awesome,

2276
01:44:22,333 --> 01:44:27,133
Speaker 3: Liam Lawson, here's awesome, awesome Lawsome awesome Lawson keeps his

2277
01:44:27,213 --> 01:44:28,973
Speaker 3: seat for next year. So we'll break that down for

2278
01:44:29,013 --> 01:44:30,253
Speaker 3: you next eighteen to four.

2279
01:44:31,333 --> 01:44:34,133
Speaker 1: Have a chat with the lads on eight eighty ten

2280
01:44:34,213 --> 01:44:38,132
Speaker 1: eighty Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. Afternoons news talk sa'd.

2281
01:44:37,933 --> 01:44:42,052
Speaker 3: Be very good afternoons quarter two four. So breaking news overnight,

2282
01:44:42,133 --> 01:44:45,133
Speaker 3: Liam Lawson will remain on the Formula one grid next year.

2283
01:44:45,213 --> 01:44:48,012
Speaker 3: Red Bull confirmed Lawson will stay on with Red Bulls

2284
01:44:48,093 --> 01:44:51,213
Speaker 3: sister outfit Racing Balls as the team senior driver. At

2285
01:44:51,253 --> 01:44:54,412
Speaker 3: a time where Formula one introduces drafts to regulation changes.

2286
01:44:54,452 --> 01:44:56,692
Speaker 3: To Chap Moore, we're joined once again by Alex Powell,

2287
01:44:56,853 --> 01:44:59,812
Speaker 3: New Zealand Herald journalist who has been all over this

2288
01:44:59,933 --> 01:45:04,812
Speaker 3: story from day one. Alex, afternoon to you, afternoon boys,

2289
01:45:04,812 --> 01:45:06,293
Speaker 3: how are we very good?

2290
01:45:06,572 --> 01:45:08,093
Speaker 2: As you well know, Alex, I have been punishing you

2291
01:45:08,372 --> 01:45:11,012
Speaker 2: every single day for a very long time for information

2292
01:45:11,213 --> 01:45:14,293
Speaker 2: on the story and how Liam was going. So was

2293
01:45:14,372 --> 01:45:16,652
Speaker 2: the seat more solid than we thought it was? Or

2294
01:45:16,732 --> 01:45:19,973
Speaker 2: is something changed in recent weeks that have secured the

2295
01:45:20,093 --> 01:45:20,772
Speaker 2: seat for Liam?

2296
01:45:21,853 --> 01:45:24,053
Speaker 31: I don't think a seat's ever solid. You know, this

2297
01:45:24,253 --> 01:45:26,492
Speaker 31: is a cutthroat spot in Red Bull are even more

2298
01:45:26,532 --> 01:45:30,213
Speaker 31: dramatic than that, But given the lack of almost a

2299
01:45:30,253 --> 01:45:33,333
Speaker 31: better alternative within Red Bull's own ranks, Liam did firm

2300
01:45:33,412 --> 01:45:35,732
Speaker 31: as the best choice about as early as July. I

2301
01:45:35,853 --> 01:45:37,933
Speaker 31: remember that we came on and spoke about this and

2302
01:45:38,652 --> 01:45:40,612
Speaker 31: it basically looked as though Liam was going to get

2303
01:45:40,612 --> 01:45:43,093
Speaker 31: the nod and partner Lindblad when he came up from

2304
01:45:43,253 --> 01:45:43,532
Speaker 31: F two.

2305
01:45:45,213 --> 01:45:48,173
Speaker 2: Okay, so how do you rate Liam's season overall? Now

2306
01:45:48,213 --> 01:45:51,412
Speaker 2: we're looking at it going you know, it's one race

2307
01:45:51,492 --> 01:45:51,652
Speaker 2: to go.

2308
01:45:52,133 --> 01:45:53,293
Speaker 3: How do you rate it?

2309
01:45:53,692 --> 01:45:55,692
Speaker 2: You know, obviously we had the two races at the start,

2310
01:45:55,772 --> 01:45:58,053
Speaker 2: maybe we don't need to talk about those, but since

2311
01:45:58,093 --> 01:45:59,372
Speaker 2: he's been in racing bills.

2312
01:45:59,973 --> 01:46:02,652
Speaker 31: Look, I think he has actually just quietly had a

2313
01:46:02,812 --> 01:46:05,053
Speaker 31: very good season. You saw, you know, you look at

2314
01:46:05,173 --> 01:46:07,732
Speaker 31: the comparisons made with Yuki Sanoda, who was battling that

2315
01:46:07,853 --> 01:46:10,532
Speaker 31: seat for well, Liam has actually scored more points this

2316
01:46:10,652 --> 01:46:12,933
Speaker 31: season than Yuki has scored in a single season in

2317
01:46:13,013 --> 01:46:16,253
Speaker 31: his career, So with that on board, you'd have to

2318
01:46:16,333 --> 01:46:18,213
Speaker 31: say he's done very well. The issue is that his

2319
01:46:18,293 --> 01:46:20,772
Speaker 31: teammates done even better, so he doesn't look that good

2320
01:46:20,812 --> 01:46:24,372
Speaker 31: in comparison. But I think he will be as happy

2321
01:46:24,412 --> 01:46:26,572
Speaker 31: as he can be given everything that had happened leading

2322
01:46:26,612 --> 01:46:26,893
Speaker 31: into it.

2323
01:46:27,133 --> 01:46:30,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, now, Alex, I know you and Heath deep into

2324
01:46:30,213 --> 01:46:33,652
Speaker 3: the F one situation. But these regulation changes, what are

2325
01:46:33,692 --> 01:46:35,692
Speaker 3: they next year? And Liam's going to have a part

2326
01:46:35,853 --> 01:46:37,452
Speaker 3: to play with designing the car?

2327
01:46:37,612 --> 01:46:37,973
Speaker 2: Is that right?

2328
01:46:39,452 --> 01:46:42,253
Speaker 31: Liam is very good at aiding in continent. So basically

2329
01:46:42,372 --> 01:46:44,932
Speaker 31: the way that you build the car, the formula as

2330
01:46:44,973 --> 01:46:48,013
Speaker 31: it is is changing completely, so cars it will have

2331
01:46:48,093 --> 01:46:49,892
Speaker 31: to be completely different from what they are the show.

2332
01:46:49,893 --> 01:46:51,293
Speaker 31: I won't get too tap on that because I'll let

2333
01:46:51,333 --> 01:46:53,173
Speaker 31: Matt do it. I know he's actually really good at

2334
01:46:53,213 --> 01:46:57,052
Speaker 31: explaining that stuff. But yeah, Liam's record in developing cars,

2335
01:46:57,253 --> 01:46:59,253
Speaker 31: not just with racing laws but with Redbour in his

2336
01:46:59,372 --> 01:47:02,053
Speaker 31: years as the test and reserve driver is actually really good.

2337
01:47:02,093 --> 01:47:03,852
Speaker 31: That's why they see such value in him. You think

2338
01:47:03,893 --> 01:47:06,173
Speaker 31: of the commercial side of formula and how prevalent it

2339
01:47:06,213 --> 01:47:09,293
Speaker 31: actually is. Liam has next to no commercial backing. You know,

2340
01:47:09,372 --> 01:47:11,692
Speaker 31: he doesn't come from a huge country with a population

2341
01:47:11,772 --> 01:47:14,093
Speaker 31: in the hundreds of millions. So this is one of

2342
01:47:14,173 --> 01:47:17,133
Speaker 31: the main reasons why they like him so much, and.

2343
01:47:17,293 --> 01:47:19,852
Speaker 2: And it'll also be a huge advantage for Limb as

2344
01:47:19,893 --> 01:47:22,772
Speaker 2: well to be you know, had a year with the team,

2345
01:47:23,013 --> 01:47:24,412
Speaker 2: most of the year with the team, and then a

2346
01:47:24,452 --> 01:47:27,852
Speaker 2: pre season with the team and feel comfortable going into

2347
01:47:27,893 --> 01:47:30,932
Speaker 2: it and be the senior driver in the situation next year.

2348
01:47:31,133 --> 01:47:33,772
Speaker 2: Surely that's you know, we don't talk about solid, but

2349
01:47:33,853 --> 01:47:35,492
Speaker 2: a reasonably solid position from the being.

2350
01:47:36,293 --> 01:47:39,452
Speaker 31: Yeah, it's not something he's done too often, go back

2351
01:47:39,492 --> 01:47:41,532
Speaker 31: to the same team more than one year in a row.

2352
01:47:41,973 --> 01:47:45,572
Speaker 31: Scott McLaughlin, the KWE IndyCar driver, actually spoke really well

2353
01:47:45,612 --> 01:47:47,492
Speaker 31: on the same thing. That is, when you go back

2354
01:47:47,572 --> 01:47:49,532
Speaker 31: to you know, you go back for another year in

2355
01:47:49,812 --> 01:47:52,532
Speaker 31: the same division. It's not just knowing all the race

2356
01:47:52,652 --> 01:47:54,852
Speaker 31: tracks that actually helps you out. It's knowing the city

2357
01:47:54,933 --> 01:47:56,972
Speaker 31: that you're in, the hotel, the restaurant, and it actually

2358
01:47:57,013 --> 01:48:00,133
Speaker 31: feels so much more comfortable in the environment and so

2359
01:48:00,333 --> 01:48:02,173
Speaker 31: Liam is going to have that this year. You think

2360
01:48:02,213 --> 01:48:05,253
Speaker 31: about places like Brazil and Katara in Las Vegas, where

2361
01:48:05,253 --> 01:48:07,572
Speaker 31: he actually returned this year after racing their last year,

2362
01:48:07,772 --> 01:48:10,412
Speaker 31: and he had proved, you know, Brazil was one of

2363
01:48:10,452 --> 01:48:12,933
Speaker 31: the drives of his life guitar the other day he

2364
01:48:13,093 --> 01:48:15,572
Speaker 31: just stayed out of trouble and did a really professional job.

2365
01:48:16,093 --> 01:48:17,612
Speaker 31: So now he's going to be going back to the

2366
01:48:17,692 --> 01:48:19,732
Speaker 31: circuit of you know, all of the circuits next year,

2367
01:48:19,812 --> 01:48:21,973
Speaker 31: and we'll have experience on every single one of them.

2368
01:48:22,853 --> 01:48:25,652
Speaker 2: Now, the big thing is the last race. Where are

2369
01:48:25,652 --> 01:48:27,973
Speaker 2: the points sitting in the driver's championship for the end

2370
01:48:28,013 --> 01:48:28,812
Speaker 2: of the season.

2371
01:48:30,333 --> 01:48:33,133
Speaker 31: So landon Iris is twelve points Clariamaxi Stepan and what

2372
01:48:33,732 --> 01:48:36,452
Speaker 31: fourteen fifteen points ahead of his teammate Oscar Pstree.

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Speaker 2: So essentially, if Lando podiums, he wins the whole thing.

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Speaker 31: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: And so we're looking at a really interesting proposition. I

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Speaker 2: think where you've got Oscar in the in P one

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Speaker 2: two or three and Lando, let's say P four, would

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Speaker 2: they then the McLaren teams swap them over and let

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Speaker 2: and we'll do the championship And if the call went out,

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Speaker 2: would Oscar PSD do it because he seems like a

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Speaker 2: bit of sulky half man at the moment.

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Speaker 31: Well, let's not forget Oscar Pistrick did do that last year.

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Speaker 31: McLaren did pull him aside and tell them that they

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Speaker 31: need to put everything into land and ice. But this

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Speaker 31: year they've kind of painted themselves into a corner by

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Speaker 31: not doing that. You know, we even saw in Katar

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Speaker 31: last week they had the chance to have Oscar or

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Speaker 31: so Lando Iras out in front and hold Max the

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Speaker 31: staffing up to let Piastre catch up on fresh tires,

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Speaker 31: but then they just put it Norris anyway, So it

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Speaker 31: really looks like they are trying as hard as they

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Speaker 31: can to just not favor a driver, but it could

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Speaker 31: cost them the title.

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Speaker 3: Yeah woo exciting.

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Speaker 2: Max is like a he's like a predator and horror movie,

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Speaker 2: just hunting those McLaren's down and he's more popular than

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Speaker 2: ever from doing it.

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Speaker 3: Hey yeah, Alex, you're at the cricket. What's happening?

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Speaker 31: So we've just reached the tea break. The Western neither

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01:49:53,973 --> 01:49:57,333
Speaker 31: about one hundred and twenty odd for five. It's bloody

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Speaker 31: cold here. I don't know what I said has actually

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01:49:59,293 --> 01:50:01,852
Speaker 31: made any sense I am so cold trying to just

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01:50:01,933 --> 01:50:03,253
Speaker 31: say coherent sentences.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough in the south, mate, but what a

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01:50:05,893 --> 01:50:10,053
Speaker 3: great oval overund Well up here it's basically midnight here

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01:50:10,093 --> 01:50:12,372
Speaker 3: in Auckland. It's so dark from some kind of strange,

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01:50:12,412 --> 01:50:14,772
Speaker 3: ominous cloud, so you know you're not missing much up here.

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Speaker 31: Well, I'll come see you boys next week and hopefully

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Speaker 31: they have it better look.

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Speaker 3: Forward to it, Alex. Always good to check with you, mate,

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Speaker 3: Go well for the rest of the cricket and we'll

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Speaker 3: catch you back here soon. That is Alex Powell en

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Speaker 3: Zied Herald sports journalist and just briefly Abu Dhabi this weekend.

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Speaker 3: So some of those times it's a little bit I'll

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01:50:34,772 --> 01:50:36,692
Speaker 3: see you pretty good time, isn't it so? Pre race

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01:50:36,732 --> 01:50:39,852
Speaker 3: twelve thirty am on the Monday and then the big

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01:50:40,053 --> 01:50:43,892
Speaker 3: event one fifty five, I think, am I'm just looking

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01:50:43,933 --> 01:50:45,172
Speaker 3: at the Sky Sport coverage.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited that Liam's got the seat. It's been

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Speaker 2: it's been a huge source of anxiety for me.

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Speaker 3: Over the year. You've been a happy man. It's just

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Speaker 3: I just I just feel so.

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Speaker 2: Good about twenty twenty six on a number of reasons.

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01:50:57,333 --> 01:51:00,692
Speaker 3: Now talking about positivity. It is nine minutes to four

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Speaker 3: beg very shortly the.

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Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything

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Speaker 1: in between. Matt Heath and Adams afternoons used Talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 3: News Talk ZB It is six to four. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to the show boy

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01:51:17,812 --> 01:51:20,572
Speaker 2: Boy pretty much three hours of positivity.

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01:51:20,213 --> 01:51:22,572
Speaker 3: Good times. Yeah, that's what we need in this country.

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01:51:22,853 --> 01:51:23,013
Speaker 26: Yeah.

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01:51:23,053 --> 01:51:26,572
Speaker 2: And you have to have positivity in your heart when

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01:51:26,612 --> 01:51:28,852
Speaker 2: you talk about positivity because get a lot of abuse

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01:51:28,893 --> 01:51:29,053
Speaker 2: for it.

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01:51:29,133 --> 01:51:32,532
Speaker 3: Con certainly do nine two is a negativity machine sometimes.

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01:51:32,612 --> 01:51:35,293
Speaker 2: But thanks so much for listening one and thanks for

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01:51:35,372 --> 01:51:38,053
Speaker 2: the calls on eight hundred eighty ten eighty. It has

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01:51:38,093 --> 01:51:41,013
Speaker 2: been a fantastic three hours. The podcast will be up

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Speaker 2: in an hour or so. The Great New Zealand to

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01:51:43,372 --> 01:51:44,772
Speaker 2: Hear the Do It for Ce Allen is up next

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01:51:44,853 --> 01:51:47,253
Speaker 2: with your drive show. But right now, Tyler, why am

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01:51:47,293 --> 01:51:49,852
Speaker 2: I playing this song from nineteen ninety one?

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01:51:50,133 --> 01:51:52,812
Speaker 3: I love this song? I got no idea who sings that?

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01:51:52,893 --> 01:51:53,492
Speaker 3: What's the name of the.

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01:51:53,532 --> 01:52:00,293
Speaker 2: Bends chumber Wamba Jumper wabab Because we had almost three

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01:52:00,333 --> 01:52:01,932
Speaker 2: hours of great positivity chat.

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01:52:02,133 --> 01:52:04,213
Speaker 3: But you know, getting knocked down, you've got to get

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01:52:04,293 --> 01:52:07,772
Speaker 3: up there, severe, face those challenges. Get on dear rap challenges,

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01:52:07,853 --> 01:52:08,293
Speaker 3: New Zealand.

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01:52:08,412 --> 01:52:09,612
Speaker 4: But you gotta get up.

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01:52:10,173 --> 01:52:11,572
Speaker 3: Great choice, great June.

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01:52:12,293 --> 01:52:14,093
Speaker 2: First thing that nightaway is a pretty weird line though,

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01:52:14,133 --> 01:52:16,572
Speaker 2: You've got to say, all right, you seem busy. Will

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01:52:16,612 --> 01:52:20,652
Speaker 2: let you go until tomorrow. Give me a taste of

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01:52:20,692 --> 01:52:22,253
Speaker 2: key with you Tyler, and I love you.

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01:53:29,053 --> 01:53:30,492
Speaker 4: Man, Heathan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 1: For more from News Talks at b listen live on

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Speaker 1: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever

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