1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,040 Speaker 1: Catherine, how are you? 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 2: I'm fine? Thank you? Make now this. 3 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Sixth dole of the Sheen thing, sheenshine, how is it? 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Do you know that the sixth dole thing only appears 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: to be a thing in France? How did that happen? 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: Who knows? Mike, who knows? But it really could not 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 2: have come at a worse time for Sheen. This sort 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: of huge e commerce online retailer was due on Wednesday. 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: What is due on Wednesday to open its first physical store. 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: It's going to be in central Paris, the heart of Paris, 11 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: right opposite Paristown Hall. So it was already you know, 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 2: giving a lot of publicity here because there's been a 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 2: lot of questions about it, the way it operates, not 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 2: just the working conditions, but also the environmental impact of 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: this fast fashion that it creates. So yeah, over the 16 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: weekend it emerged that in France this Shine was selling 17 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: childlike sex dolls. Now we've seen pictures of them. It's 18 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: a dole around the size of a one year old girl. 19 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: This girl is clutching a teddy bear and there was 20 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 2: also some sexually explicit captions to this advertisement. Now consumer 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: watchdog went crazy. You said, it's against the law. You 22 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: cannot sell child porn pornography, you can't sell sex dolls 23 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: online in France. And now we've got the finance minister 24 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: who has said that if this happens again then the 25 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: company will be banned from France. I mean, it seems big, Mike. 26 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: But here's the thing. France has already find this company 27 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: three times in twenty twenty five. It's been a total 28 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: of three hundred and eighty million New Zealand dollars in fines, 29 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: failing to comply with online cookie legislation, false advertising and 30 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: misleading information, and not declaring presence of plastic microbes and 31 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: Sevic's products. So already was looking bad. Wasn't going to 32 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: be an easy opening. The other point, Mike is I 33 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: don't know if you have ever been in Paris around 34 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: Christmas time. One of the big things about Christmas and 35 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: the stores at Central Paris are their Christmas window displays. Well, 36 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: Disney was meant to do the window display for the 37 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: shop where she was going to be having or is 38 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: supposed to have its store opened this Wednesday. Disney pulled 39 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: out and said it would have nothing to do with 40 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: this company. So what looked as though was going to 41 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: be a sort of easy entrance into the retail side 42 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: for this company. Now looks as though it's actually going 43 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: to have a few difficult weeks ahead of it. 44 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: Right the loave the petty criminal thing fascinates me because 45 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: that is quite something to ride your truck up to 46 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: the window and do what they did. I mean, just 47 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: reeks of organized crime and yet apparently. 48 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 2: Not so it did reagive it. But what, of course, 49 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: the Paris prosecutors say that changes it from your organized 50 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: crime to a group of petty criminals is what they 51 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: left behind the clues. Apparently they left behind a lot 52 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: of DNA. When they opened up those cabinets inside the loop, 53 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: a lot of DNA was left behind there. They left 54 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: behind tools. They don't forget, Mike. They dropped that famous crown, 55 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: Empress Eugenie's crown. They dropped that DNA all over that. 56 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: They dropped a scooter helmet that had DNA on that 57 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: as well. All sorts of DNA were left behind. And 58 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: it's only because, according to the prosecutor, so many of 59 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: the actual people who carried out this raid they had 60 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: criminal records, so parents police had their DNA on part, 61 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: which is why they're able to go and get them. 62 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: So what they're saying is your organized crime group would 63 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: not have made these simple mistakes that these guys made. 64 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: What's the bigger deal. They've got them, they'll stickham and court, 65 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: presumably they'll get stuck in jail or actually finding what 66 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: they nicked. 67 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: Well, they'll be in jail for a while because this 68 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: will take a long and having to get to court. 69 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: But they really do want to get the jewels back 70 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 2: and Crown jewels back. The thing is, Mike, you know, 71 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: so many French people didn't even realize they had these 72 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 2: Crown jewels and so now everyone wants to see them again. 73 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,239 Speaker 2: But you know, think back to that Kim Kardashian robbery 74 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: during Paris Fashion Week. They never found those jewels. 75 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: No, they didn't. All right, Catherine, catch up, So appreciate 76 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: it very much, Catherine Field and France. For more from 77 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to news talks. 78 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 2: It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast 79 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: on iHeartRadio.