1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:16,467 Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB. The only place for the big names, 3 00:00:16,747 --> 00:00:22,747 Speaker 1: the big issues, the big controversies and the big conversations. 4 00:00:22,947 --> 00:00:26,347 Speaker 1: It's all on Weekend Sport with Jason Vine on your 5 00:00:26,467 --> 00:00:28,667 Speaker 1: home of Sport News Talks ed B. 6 00:00:29,987 --> 00:00:32,467 Speaker 2: Hi there, Cura, Good afternoon. Welcome into the Saturday edition 7 00:00:32,467 --> 00:00:35,227 Speaker 2: of Weekend Sport on News Talks EDB. August twenty three 8 00:00:35,267 --> 00:00:38,547 Speaker 2: on Jason Pine Show Producer Anny McDonald talking Sport with 9 00:00:38,587 --> 00:00:42,707 Speaker 2: you until three. Very special day for Cody Taylor. Tomorrow 10 00:00:43,107 --> 00:00:45,627 Speaker 2: he will become the fourteenth All Black Centurion when he 11 00:00:45,707 --> 00:00:48,787 Speaker 2: runs out against Argentina and Buona. Series. Going to pay 12 00:00:48,827 --> 00:00:51,587 Speaker 2: tribute to one of our truly great hookers after one 13 00:00:52,107 --> 00:00:54,587 Speaker 2: with two of his former Crusaders and All Blacks teammates, 14 00:00:54,627 --> 00:00:58,027 Speaker 2: White Crockett and Matt Todd. Your tributes to Cody Taylor 15 00:00:58,267 --> 00:01:01,827 Speaker 2: are welcome to. We'll also get you to Argentina after 16 00:01:01,827 --> 00:01:06,227 Speaker 2: one to preview the test tomorrow's sports broadcast at ESPN Argentina. 17 00:01:06,387 --> 00:01:09,507 Speaker 2: Zuka Konti going to join us. Can they finally get 18 00:01:09,507 --> 00:01:12,627 Speaker 2: that elusive win over the All Blacks on Argentinian soil? 19 00:01:12,867 --> 00:01:15,547 Speaker 2: Or will the All Blacks go two from two? You 20 00:01:15,587 --> 00:01:17,307 Speaker 2: can give us your predictions if you like as well. 21 00:01:17,627 --> 00:01:20,947 Speaker 2: Live commentary from nine tomorrow morning here on news Talks 22 00:01:20,947 --> 00:01:24,107 Speaker 2: HEB with Elliott Smith and Antstram. First up today, though 23 00:01:25,147 --> 00:01:29,307 Speaker 2: the freshly signed broadcast deal between Sky and New Zealand 24 00:01:29,387 --> 00:01:33,427 Speaker 2: Rugby details announced yesterday a few interesting features, free to 25 00:01:33,467 --> 00:01:36,467 Speaker 2: wear provincial rugby on TV and Z and for the 26 00:01:36,507 --> 00:01:39,627 Speaker 2: first time, test matches for both the All Blacks and 27 00:01:39,667 --> 00:01:43,627 Speaker 2: the Black Ferns that sit outside the broadcast agreement and 28 00:01:43,787 --> 00:01:47,027 Speaker 2: will be negotiated on a game by game basis. What 29 00:01:47,067 --> 00:01:48,187 Speaker 2: does this all mean and why? 30 00:01:48,707 --> 00:01:48,867 Speaker 3: Ends? 31 00:01:48,907 --> 00:01:52,147 Speaker 2: At our board chair and former All Blacks Captain David 32 00:01:52,187 --> 00:01:55,827 Speaker 2: kirk along shortly Head of Sport at Sky. Gary Burchett 33 00:01:55,987 --> 00:01:59,107 Speaker 2: is also with us this hour and your views on 34 00:01:59,147 --> 00:02:01,227 Speaker 2: this are encouraged. How do you feel as a rugby 35 00:02:01,227 --> 00:02:05,187 Speaker 2: fan about the various bits and pieces of this broadcast deal? 36 00:02:05,227 --> 00:02:07,827 Speaker 2: The freend who Ebit's great, but what about having to 37 00:02:07,867 --> 00:02:13,067 Speaker 2: maybe pay another provider to watch the All Blacks. Most 38 00:02:13,107 --> 00:02:15,187 Speaker 2: of it's on Sky, but as I say, the odd 39 00:02:15,187 --> 00:02:17,787 Speaker 2: test match here and there maybe one a year sitting 40 00:02:17,867 --> 00:02:19,747 Speaker 2: outside it? Are we going to watch the All Blacks 41 00:02:20,187 --> 00:02:23,747 Speaker 2: on Netflix for example, So plenty to chew over other 42 00:02:23,787 --> 00:02:27,227 Speaker 2: matters around today, plenty happening. The exodus of our top 43 00:02:27,307 --> 00:02:30,827 Speaker 2: netball players from the A and Z Premiership continues. Many 44 00:02:30,827 --> 00:02:33,507 Speaker 2: of them have signed deals to play in the Australian 45 00:02:33,547 --> 00:02:35,707 Speaker 2: Supernetball comp next year. So how are they feeling about this? 46 00:02:35,787 --> 00:02:38,507 Speaker 2: Across the Tasman All of these kiwi's just dropping into 47 00:02:38,547 --> 00:02:42,307 Speaker 2: their comp. Former Australian Diamonds coach Lisa Alexander on that 48 00:02:42,827 --> 00:02:44,667 Speaker 2: the all white squad to face the soccer Who's Home 49 00:02:44,707 --> 00:02:46,947 Speaker 2: and Away next month has been confirmed. We'll chat with 50 00:02:46,987 --> 00:02:51,147 Speaker 2: head coach Darren Baisley. The eightieth edition of Cycling's Love 51 00:02:51,187 --> 00:02:55,187 Speaker 2: Welter Espanya under way tonight. There are the three keywis involved. 52 00:02:55,427 --> 00:02:57,747 Speaker 2: One of them Dion Smith. He's with us after two. 53 00:02:57,947 --> 00:03:01,507 Speaker 2: Ossie correspondent Adam Peacock along in his regular slot. What 54 00:03:01,587 --> 00:03:06,067 Speaker 2: about that finish to the Canberra Penrith game last night? 55 00:03:06,547 --> 00:03:09,227 Speaker 2: Incredible stuff? Your chance to win when we play a 56 00:03:09,307 --> 00:03:13,107 Speaker 2: sporting chants with the tab as well Live Sport this afternoon. 57 00:03:13,147 --> 00:03:17,227 Speaker 2: Budding MPC Round four tartanaky Waycautor in New Plymouth, five 58 00:03:17,267 --> 00:03:19,987 Speaker 2: past two, kickoff at doubles as a Ramphilly Shield challenge 59 00:03:20,187 --> 00:03:21,587 Speaker 2: for the Mulu Me. I'm going to get you to 60 00:03:21,587 --> 00:03:24,587 Speaker 2: Stadium Tartanucky before kickoff for a bit of a preview 61 00:03:24,627 --> 00:03:27,387 Speaker 2: and keep you updated once it kicks off. Round three 62 00:03:27,427 --> 00:03:30,947 Speaker 2: of the Farrah Palmercupp is underway Tartanucky, North Harbor approaching 63 00:03:31,347 --> 00:03:35,147 Speaker 2: halftime and it is it's not North Harbor, it is 64 00:03:35,147 --> 00:03:38,547 Speaker 2: it's Tasman. My apologies Tasman against Tartanuky are tasman Ley 65 00:03:38,667 --> 00:03:42,347 Speaker 2: twenty six to ten approaching halftime, North Harbor against Wellington 66 00:03:42,507 --> 00:03:46,267 Speaker 2: and Canterbury against Counties Manco from five past two and 67 00:03:46,387 --> 00:03:50,507 Speaker 2: Heartland Championship Rugby to keep an eye on in Little Tornia, Ashburton, 68 00:03:50,587 --> 00:03:54,627 Speaker 2: Top Or Westport, Oxford and Timurdoo this afternoon. The show 69 00:03:54,707 --> 00:03:56,827 Speaker 2: is yours to contribute to if you would like to, 70 00:03:56,987 --> 00:04:00,347 Speaker 2: oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine two nine to 71 00:04:00,387 --> 00:04:03,787 Speaker 2: two for your text messages emails into Jason at Newstalk 72 00:04:03,827 --> 00:04:06,347 Speaker 2: SEDB dot co dot NZ coming up eleven past. 73 00:04:08,467 --> 00:04:11,147 Speaker 1: The scoop from the track Fields and the Court on 74 00:04:11,267 --> 00:04:14,707 Speaker 1: your home of sport weekends for it with Jason Vine 75 00:04:14,867 --> 00:04:16,307 Speaker 1: Youth TALKSB. 76 00:04:16,267 --> 00:04:19,027 Speaker 2: New Zealand Rugby has confirmed a new agreement with Sky 77 00:04:19,307 --> 00:04:22,587 Speaker 2: as broadcast partner for all rugby in New Zealand for 78 00:04:22,627 --> 00:04:26,707 Speaker 2: the five years from twenty twenty six to twenty thirty. 79 00:04:26,827 --> 00:04:31,307 Speaker 2: Here are the details. Sky will broadcast exclusively live every 80 00:04:31,307 --> 00:04:35,267 Speaker 2: All Blacks match played in Sansar countries, including the Bledisloe 81 00:04:35,347 --> 00:04:38,987 Speaker 2: Cup and Rugby Championship, New Tours between the Spring Box 82 00:04:38,987 --> 00:04:41,507 Speaker 2: and the All Blacks, the New Nations Cup tournament, and 83 00:04:41,587 --> 00:04:44,507 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty nine British and Irish Lions Tour of 84 00:04:44,627 --> 00:04:48,627 Speaker 2: New Zealand. Also all Black Ferns matches played in Sansar 85 00:04:48,707 --> 00:04:51,707 Speaker 2: countries and the British and Irish Lions Women's Tour. Here 86 00:04:51,867 --> 00:04:55,627 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty seven, every Super Rugby, Pacific Super Rugby, 87 00:04:55,707 --> 00:04:59,987 Speaker 2: Opicky and superw Match, MAULDI, All Blacks and All Blacks 88 00:04:59,987 --> 00:05:04,307 Speaker 2: fifteen matches played in Sansar countries as well TV and 89 00:05:04,427 --> 00:05:08,147 Speaker 2: ZED Meantime has secured free to We're broadcast rights for 90 00:05:08,347 --> 00:05:12,947 Speaker 2: provincial rugby, including all NPC matches and select Farah Palmer 91 00:05:13,027 --> 00:05:18,267 Speaker 2: Cup and Heartland Championship games. In all, ninety three provincial 92 00:05:18,347 --> 00:05:21,587 Speaker 2: matches will be available free to view on TV and 93 00:05:21,667 --> 00:05:25,627 Speaker 2: Z Plus, with three games a week in appointment viewing 94 00:05:25,667 --> 00:05:29,387 Speaker 2: slots on TV and Z one. Sky customers of course 95 00:05:29,467 --> 00:05:32,667 Speaker 2: will have access to all of those games as well. 96 00:05:32,987 --> 00:05:35,827 Speaker 2: Let's bring in New Zealand Rugby chair David Kirk. David, 97 00:05:35,867 --> 00:05:38,187 Speaker 2: thanks for joining us. How happy are you with the 98 00:05:38,307 --> 00:05:39,147 Speaker 2: deal you've struck. 99 00:05:39,787 --> 00:05:41,867 Speaker 4: Well, I'm very happy. I think it's a great deal 100 00:05:42,227 --> 00:05:43,827 Speaker 4: Ponzell and Rugby, and I'm sure it's a deal a 101 00:05:43,827 --> 00:05:47,787 Speaker 4: little work well for Sky, so we'll have a committed 102 00:05:48,067 --> 00:05:51,147 Speaker 4: and enthusiastic partner to work with and looking forward to 103 00:05:51,187 --> 00:05:52,227 Speaker 4: the next five years. 104 00:05:52,427 --> 00:05:55,507 Speaker 2: How important was it to you to have NPC on 105 00:05:55,947 --> 00:05:56,467 Speaker 2: free to air? 106 00:05:57,467 --> 00:06:01,387 Speaker 4: Very important. We know that it's more and more competitive 107 00:06:01,547 --> 00:06:07,187 Speaker 4: to have young people and fans generally gauge with rugby. 108 00:06:07,187 --> 00:06:09,627 Speaker 4: There are lots of alternatives these days, so it's really 109 00:06:09,667 --> 00:06:12,387 Speaker 4: important for us to be able to get the great 110 00:06:12,427 --> 00:06:15,467 Speaker 4: pregnant who player in this country, both men's and women's, 111 00:06:15,547 --> 00:06:18,787 Speaker 4: in front of as many people as possible, and particularly 112 00:06:18,827 --> 00:06:23,827 Speaker 4: in a period of challenging household budgets, it really is 113 00:06:23,867 --> 00:06:26,987 Speaker 4: great to be able to broadcast free to wear ninety 114 00:06:26,987 --> 00:06:32,307 Speaker 4: three NPC games and selected far Apartment Cup games and 115 00:06:32,347 --> 00:06:33,707 Speaker 4: also Heartland games. 116 00:06:34,347 --> 00:06:36,867 Speaker 2: How do those conversations play out? Because I guess in 117 00:06:36,947 --> 00:06:40,427 Speaker 2: an ideal world, a broadcaster wants everything behind their paywall, 118 00:06:40,547 --> 00:06:42,587 Speaker 2: whereas as you say, you want as many eyeballs on 119 00:06:42,627 --> 00:06:46,147 Speaker 2: the game as possible while maximizing your broadcast revenue. So 120 00:06:46,947 --> 00:06:48,747 Speaker 2: is that one of the more challenging parts of the 121 00:06:48,787 --> 00:06:50,067 Speaker 2: conversation the negotiation? 122 00:06:51,027 --> 00:06:54,067 Speaker 4: Yes, I think you know what happens in these negotiations 123 00:06:54,307 --> 00:06:57,667 Speaker 4: as people bring to the negotiation table what matters to them, 124 00:06:58,147 --> 00:07:00,867 Speaker 4: what's important to them, and what they want to see 125 00:07:00,907 --> 00:07:04,427 Speaker 4: in the agreement. And often there's lots of agreement on 126 00:07:04,467 --> 00:07:07,067 Speaker 4: that and you can be pretty aliant, but then sometimes 127 00:07:07,107 --> 00:07:09,987 Speaker 4: there's disagreement and you have to find ways around that, 128 00:07:11,067 --> 00:07:13,267 Speaker 4: and you know, sometimes there are tradeoffs, and the trade 129 00:07:13,267 --> 00:07:16,387 Speaker 4: offs are, you know, how much money one party is 130 00:07:16,427 --> 00:07:19,587 Speaker 4: prepared to pay, and if they're not prepared to pay 131 00:07:19,587 --> 00:07:22,547 Speaker 4: more than that, then we need to find other ways 132 00:07:22,187 --> 00:07:25,187 Speaker 4: for the party with the content that's as n d 133 00:07:25,427 --> 00:07:28,467 Speaker 4: R to get value out of the deal. And being 134 00:07:28,547 --> 00:07:32,467 Speaker 4: able to carve out matches or to to co broadcast 135 00:07:32,547 --> 00:07:37,587 Speaker 4: matches is a way in which we've been able to 136 00:07:38,227 --> 00:07:41,387 Speaker 4: solve some of those challenges. So it means it's kind 137 00:07:41,387 --> 00:07:43,907 Speaker 4: of a win win for both parties when you get 138 00:07:43,947 --> 00:07:44,467 Speaker 4: that agreement. 139 00:07:44,987 --> 00:07:47,347 Speaker 2: Sky have recently bought TV three. Of course, did that 140 00:07:47,427 --> 00:07:50,027 Speaker 2: happen a bit too late for them to be considered 141 00:07:50,027 --> 00:07:51,027 Speaker 2: as a free to wear partner. 142 00:07:51,827 --> 00:07:53,947 Speaker 4: I don't know that would have been, you know it 143 00:07:53,947 --> 00:07:56,427 Speaker 4: would been to them, but I think yes, as the untasis, 144 00:07:56,627 --> 00:07:58,547 Speaker 4: it wasn't that long ago that they announced that they 145 00:07:58,587 --> 00:08:00,667 Speaker 4: had made that purchase, and here we are announced in 146 00:08:00,707 --> 00:08:03,707 Speaker 4: the agreement, and the agreement has been been in the 147 00:08:03,787 --> 00:08:07,907 Speaker 4: process of being negotiated for considerable time before that, so 148 00:08:08,307 --> 00:08:11,987 Speaker 4: it was very late in the piece. But they know 149 00:08:12,067 --> 00:08:14,907 Speaker 4: they'll have their own views and understandings about what they 150 00:08:14,987 --> 00:08:16,227 Speaker 4: want to do with TV three. 151 00:08:17,107 --> 00:08:20,707 Speaker 2: Up to five offshore all Blacks and Blackburn's tests respectively 152 00:08:20,827 --> 00:08:24,387 Speaker 2: across the five year period are not included in this deal. 153 00:08:24,827 --> 00:08:25,627 Speaker 2: Why have you done that? 154 00:08:26,507 --> 00:08:31,547 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is another very innovative and really interesting carve 155 00:08:31,587 --> 00:08:34,387 Speaker 4: out if you like carving out five test matches. We 156 00:08:34,467 --> 00:08:36,187 Speaker 4: don't know exactly what they are or where they'll be 157 00:08:36,547 --> 00:08:38,867 Speaker 4: at the moment, but these these test matches are not 158 00:08:39,187 --> 00:08:42,627 Speaker 4: covered by the deal, which means the opportunity for us 159 00:08:42,707 --> 00:08:48,387 Speaker 4: to think about you reach and engagement with fans. We 160 00:08:48,467 --> 00:08:50,907 Speaker 4: may make a decision to take less money but engage 161 00:08:50,947 --> 00:08:53,667 Speaker 4: more people, for instance, or we may find that there's 162 00:08:53,667 --> 00:08:57,027 Speaker 4: an alternative broadcaster would like to broadcast those games in 163 00:08:57,067 --> 00:08:59,627 Speaker 4: New Zealand. So it just gives us an opportunity to 164 00:09:00,307 --> 00:09:04,027 Speaker 4: be a bit innovative, to take advantage of potential market 165 00:09:04,227 --> 00:09:07,107 Speaker 4: changes and opportunities. And again, and I think it's something 166 00:09:07,147 --> 00:09:08,267 Speaker 4: that works for both parties. 167 00:09:08,947 --> 00:09:11,827 Speaker 2: Is there any chance that Sky will bid for and 168 00:09:12,107 --> 00:09:15,267 Speaker 2: or win broadcast rights for some or all of those 169 00:09:15,347 --> 00:09:15,947 Speaker 2: test matches? 170 00:09:17,147 --> 00:09:20,747 Speaker 4: That will be entirely up to them. They will, they 171 00:09:20,787 --> 00:09:23,067 Speaker 4: are certainly very welcome to bid for them, and I 172 00:09:23,107 --> 00:09:27,147 Speaker 4: imagine they will actually but that they can't certainly can't 173 00:09:27,227 --> 00:09:30,427 Speaker 4: forecast exactly what they will do, but they will certainly 174 00:09:30,547 --> 00:09:31,627 Speaker 4: be in the next if they want to be. 175 00:09:32,147 --> 00:09:34,067 Speaker 2: Is this a way of getting the all blacks onto 176 00:09:34,787 --> 00:09:38,027 Speaker 2: a massive platform like Netflix for example, That's. 177 00:09:37,907 --> 00:09:42,587 Speaker 4: Definitely possibility, no doubt, that's definitely possibility. And it's more 178 00:09:44,467 --> 00:09:47,747 Speaker 4: sort of beginning to test the waters a little bit, 179 00:09:47,787 --> 00:09:51,947 Speaker 4: if you like, for major global streaming program platforms, is 180 00:09:52,467 --> 00:09:55,667 Speaker 4: what they are inclined to do. So, taking the opportunity, 181 00:09:55,787 --> 00:09:58,387 Speaker 4: for instance, to broadcast or hover you match in New 182 00:09:58,467 --> 00:10:03,307 Speaker 4: Zealand and in other jurisdictions and seeing what responses and 183 00:10:03,827 --> 00:10:07,667 Speaker 4: how they can leverage that or growth of their own 184 00:10:07,707 --> 00:10:10,627 Speaker 4: subscribers and so on will be something that we would 185 00:10:10,667 --> 00:10:13,747 Speaker 4: certainly be happy to to investigate, and I think they 186 00:10:13,787 --> 00:10:14,307 Speaker 4: would as well. 187 00:10:14,747 --> 00:10:16,987 Speaker 2: Again, the balance, I guess, David iss eyeballs of the money, 188 00:10:17,027 --> 00:10:20,627 Speaker 2: isn't it. You know, if you've got you know, a 189 00:10:20,787 --> 00:10:24,747 Speaker 2: significant amount of money for the rights to broadcast these 190 00:10:25,547 --> 00:10:28,707 Speaker 2: these five matches, would it actually matter how many people 191 00:10:28,747 --> 00:10:29,187 Speaker 2: were watching? 192 00:10:31,947 --> 00:10:34,267 Speaker 4: Well, yes, yes it does. It always matters how many 193 00:10:34,267 --> 00:10:36,467 Speaker 4: people are watching. We want to get the game in 194 00:10:36,867 --> 00:10:40,427 Speaker 4: front of people, and we want people to understand, to 195 00:10:40,867 --> 00:10:43,787 Speaker 4: connect with our teams, to watch our teams, hopefully to 196 00:10:43,827 --> 00:10:47,987 Speaker 4: watch our teams win. So that's that's always at the 197 00:10:48,027 --> 00:10:49,867 Speaker 4: forefront of our thinking. But but of course we need 198 00:10:49,907 --> 00:10:52,267 Speaker 4: to fund the game. We need to fund all the 199 00:10:52,347 --> 00:10:55,147 Speaker 4: investment in the community game. We need to fund the 200 00:10:55,387 --> 00:10:59,667 Speaker 4: professional players, so we need we need to balance those 201 00:10:59,707 --> 00:11:00,187 Speaker 4: two things. 202 00:11:00,827 --> 00:11:03,347 Speaker 2: I'm almost certain you've done market research on this. You 203 00:11:03,427 --> 00:11:06,267 Speaker 2: believe that there are potential you know, potential bit of 204 00:11:06,787 --> 00:11:08,507 Speaker 2: plural for the rights for these matches. 205 00:11:09,187 --> 00:11:12,747 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, we know, you know there's there. It's you know, 206 00:11:12,787 --> 00:11:14,467 Speaker 4: there's a range of people who could who could definitely 207 00:11:14,507 --> 00:11:16,547 Speaker 4: do it. And you have pointed to the major global 208 00:11:16,867 --> 00:11:19,227 Speaker 4: streaming services and there are a lot of them now, 209 00:11:20,307 --> 00:11:22,787 Speaker 4: and there are a number of services which are very 210 00:11:22,827 --> 00:11:27,347 Speaker 4: specifically focused on sport and indeed buying rights to sport 211 00:11:27,947 --> 00:11:30,467 Speaker 4: around the world. So you know, those are two sort 212 00:11:30,507 --> 00:11:33,947 Speaker 4: of groups of of thetential, but there would be a 213 00:11:34,267 --> 00:11:38,187 Speaker 4: range of others as well. There are definitely opportunities. 214 00:11:37,707 --> 00:11:39,907 Speaker 2: And this and just to clarify these matches, they're like 215 00:11:39,987 --> 00:11:42,987 Speaker 2: a young spring box all blacks before the last Rugby 216 00:11:43,027 --> 00:11:46,227 Speaker 2: World Cup sort of arrangement or a one off test somewhere. 217 00:11:46,387 --> 00:11:47,827 Speaker 2: Is that Is that what we're talking about here? 218 00:11:48,307 --> 00:11:50,507 Speaker 4: Correct, That's exactly what we're talking about. 219 00:11:50,387 --> 00:11:50,747 Speaker 5: All right. 220 00:11:51,267 --> 00:11:54,307 Speaker 2: Can you foresee a time, David, where Live Rugby is 221 00:11:54,387 --> 00:11:56,947 Speaker 2: broadcast on your own digital channel, ends at our Plus 222 00:11:57,027 --> 00:11:58,867 Speaker 2: and you and you sell direct to consumer. 223 00:12:00,027 --> 00:12:02,107 Speaker 4: That's a possibility, It's it's it would be a little 224 00:12:02,147 --> 00:12:04,467 Speaker 4: way off at the moment in terms of our ability 225 00:12:04,587 --> 00:12:08,267 Speaker 4: to monetize that that We are not charging a lot 226 00:12:08,387 --> 00:12:11,867 Speaker 4: for people to join inded our Plus because we want 227 00:12:11,867 --> 00:12:15,307 Speaker 4: to build and build our fan base and we want 228 00:12:15,387 --> 00:12:18,387 Speaker 4: people to engage with us and engage with the specific 229 00:12:18,467 --> 00:12:19,347 Speaker 4: content we produce. 230 00:12:19,427 --> 00:12:20,067 Speaker 2: In the house and. 231 00:12:20,867 --> 00:12:25,627 Speaker 4: Sometimes re deploy from other places onto jed our Plus. 232 00:12:26,627 --> 00:12:30,107 Speaker 4: We want to build a fan base all around the world, 233 00:12:30,187 --> 00:12:33,627 Speaker 4: and many other sports have have done this. It is 234 00:12:33,667 --> 00:12:36,947 Speaker 4: and it's a great way to be able to offer 235 00:12:37,547 --> 00:12:39,747 Speaker 4: a real value to sponsors when they know that you 236 00:12:39,827 --> 00:12:42,467 Speaker 4: can put them in front of their brands, in front 237 00:12:42,507 --> 00:12:44,627 Speaker 4: of a lot of people on your own digital platform. 238 00:12:45,387 --> 00:12:48,467 Speaker 2: And it's been widely reported this deal is worth significantly 239 00:12:48,547 --> 00:12:50,227 Speaker 2: less and dollar terms to ends it are than the 240 00:12:50,267 --> 00:12:54,067 Speaker 2: previous deal or is that something that you have budgeted for. 241 00:12:55,267 --> 00:12:59,507 Speaker 4: Yes, it is, and it is. We're somewhat less as 242 00:12:59,547 --> 00:13:03,947 Speaker 4: a domestic deal with the previous deal. People familiar with 243 00:13:04,107 --> 00:13:08,667 Speaker 4: the circumstances will know that the deal was a really 244 00:13:08,707 --> 00:13:10,827 Speaker 4: a one off situation when there was a great deal 245 00:13:10,867 --> 00:13:14,947 Speaker 4: of competition for the broadcasting rights because Spark at that 246 00:13:15,107 --> 00:13:18,547 Speaker 4: time was starting up their own sports but broadcasting rights 247 00:13:18,547 --> 00:13:21,707 Speaker 4: and they were very keen to get broadcasting lights. So 248 00:13:22,547 --> 00:13:24,187 Speaker 4: that was a one off situation which we didn't have 249 00:13:24,787 --> 00:13:27,227 Speaker 4: this time around. But what we do have this time 250 00:13:27,267 --> 00:13:31,347 Speaker 4: around is a whole lot more international content, including the 251 00:13:31,827 --> 00:13:35,827 Speaker 4: greatest rivalry with South Africa and the Nation's Cup and 252 00:13:35,987 --> 00:13:38,627 Speaker 4: other events, and that's going to get us back to 253 00:13:38,987 --> 00:13:43,427 Speaker 4: in total pretty much exactly where we are with the 254 00:13:43,467 --> 00:13:43,867 Speaker 4: old deal. 255 00:13:44,867 --> 00:13:47,187 Speaker 2: Was the were the all Blacks and Blackfoods tease matches 256 00:13:47,187 --> 00:13:49,387 Speaker 2: outside the steal a major sticking point for Sky. 257 00:13:50,667 --> 00:13:54,467 Speaker 4: The five You mean we're talking yet, No, No, no, 258 00:13:54,747 --> 00:13:56,827 Speaker 4: they were. I mean that's again, you know, a way 259 00:13:56,907 --> 00:13:59,507 Speaker 4: of squaring the circle if you like, you know, they 260 00:13:59,827 --> 00:14:02,187 Speaker 4: were they were only able to pay a certain amount. 261 00:14:03,227 --> 00:14:05,587 Speaker 4: We realized that there was more value, and they accepted 262 00:14:05,627 --> 00:14:08,507 Speaker 4: that there was more value in these additional games. They 263 00:14:08,587 --> 00:14:11,347 Speaker 4: weren't able to pay for those, so they were happy 264 00:14:11,427 --> 00:14:16,107 Speaker 4: for us to find a way to monetize them ourselves later. 265 00:14:16,307 --> 00:14:18,987 Speaker 2: All right, So squared away. So in summary, happy with 266 00:14:19,147 --> 00:14:21,507 Speaker 2: where we are heading into the next five years, and 267 00:14:21,867 --> 00:14:25,027 Speaker 2: some opportunities, as you say, to leverage some broadcast revenue 268 00:14:25,067 --> 00:14:28,267 Speaker 2: from these matches that sit outside this deal you've struck 269 00:14:28,347 --> 00:14:28,667 Speaker 2: with Sky. 270 00:14:29,467 --> 00:14:32,067 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're absolutely happy, Jason. You know, it's been going 271 00:14:32,147 --> 00:14:33,507 Speaker 4: on for a long time. It's great to bring it 272 00:14:33,587 --> 00:14:36,427 Speaker 4: to close. It's great to have both parties feeling that 273 00:14:36,547 --> 00:14:39,467 Speaker 4: they are going forward together. We've been partners for a 274 00:14:39,547 --> 00:14:42,307 Speaker 4: long time, going forward together with a deal that works 275 00:14:42,547 --> 00:14:45,827 Speaker 4: for both of us. So we're both feeling good about it. 276 00:14:45,867 --> 00:14:47,827 Speaker 4: And that's exactly where we want to be because we've 277 00:14:47,827 --> 00:14:50,627 Speaker 4: got to work together for the next ideas well. 278 00:14:50,627 --> 00:14:52,467 Speaker 2: Next port of business. You've got to find a new CEO. 279 00:14:52,627 --> 00:14:54,947 Speaker 2: How's that going underway? 280 00:14:55,627 --> 00:14:58,667 Speaker 4: And you know, the way these processes work, there is 281 00:14:58,747 --> 00:15:02,147 Speaker 4: a clear position description written, so we need to really 282 00:15:02,187 --> 00:15:05,267 Speaker 4: be clear about what we're looking for in our next CEO, 283 00:15:05,867 --> 00:15:10,827 Speaker 4: and we need to engage a search consultant partner. And 284 00:15:10,947 --> 00:15:13,347 Speaker 4: we've done both of those two things, and now that 285 00:15:13,507 --> 00:15:17,867 Speaker 4: partner's out there scouring the landscape for you know, a 286 00:15:17,987 --> 00:15:20,067 Speaker 4: long list of people, and then that gets shortened to 287 00:15:20,107 --> 00:15:23,067 Speaker 4: a short list and then we start the interview process. 288 00:15:23,107 --> 00:15:24,747 Speaker 4: So it takes a little while. It's a sort of 289 00:15:24,747 --> 00:15:28,907 Speaker 4: a methodical process, and you know, we're very hopeful that 290 00:15:28,987 --> 00:15:30,507 Speaker 4: we'll we'll find someone who'll be great. 291 00:15:30,387 --> 00:15:33,267 Speaker 2: For us, be pretty attractive role. Wouldn't that it'd be 292 00:15:33,667 --> 00:15:35,147 Speaker 2: a few people with their hat in that ring. 293 00:15:35,907 --> 00:15:37,987 Speaker 4: I think you're right, Jason, people, you know, the all 294 00:15:38,027 --> 00:15:42,067 Speaker 4: blacks and increasingly our other black brands and black fans 295 00:15:42,107 --> 00:15:46,747 Speaker 4: in our sevens teams are you know, extraordinary sporting teams 296 00:15:46,787 --> 00:15:49,907 Speaker 4: on the global stage and we have you know, it's 297 00:15:50,027 --> 00:15:53,107 Speaker 4: challenging for TV executive that we but but if you're 298 00:15:53,187 --> 00:15:55,227 Speaker 4: up to the challenge. You know, the combination of a 299 00:15:55,307 --> 00:16:01,507 Speaker 4: global running a global sports brand and company, and you know, 300 00:16:01,587 --> 00:16:04,747 Speaker 4: running community rugby and investing in community rugby and being 301 00:16:04,907 --> 00:16:08,187 Speaker 4: part of what rugby means to the Zealanders, it's pretty attractive. 302 00:16:08,187 --> 00:16:11,627 Speaker 4: As you say, I think it's really challenging that something 303 00:16:11,667 --> 00:16:14,947 Speaker 4: that could be really meaningful and worthwhile for chief executors. 304 00:16:15,307 --> 00:16:17,667 Speaker 2: Really appreciate you joining us to give us background to 305 00:16:17,667 --> 00:16:19,427 Speaker 2: the broadcast deal. David, Thanks so much for your time 306 00:16:19,467 --> 00:16:22,787 Speaker 2: this afternoon. Jason, Thank you David. David Kirk, Chair of 307 00:16:22,827 --> 00:16:25,467 Speaker 2: the Board of New Zealand Rugby, with some background to 308 00:16:25,547 --> 00:16:28,107 Speaker 2: this broadcast deal. You've no doubt done a bit of 309 00:16:28,147 --> 00:16:29,827 Speaker 2: reading on it over the last twenty four hours since 310 00:16:29,867 --> 00:16:32,227 Speaker 2: it was announced. You've had a bit of a think 311 00:16:32,227 --> 00:16:34,147 Speaker 2: about it. Listen to David Kirk. We're going to get 312 00:16:34,427 --> 00:16:37,187 Speaker 2: a sky view from Head of Sport Gary Burchett before 313 00:16:37,227 --> 00:16:40,627 Speaker 2: one o'clock, but your chance to provide some feedback now, 314 00:16:40,707 --> 00:16:43,347 Speaker 2: oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. A couple of 315 00:16:43,387 --> 00:16:45,787 Speaker 2: parts of this were most interesting to me. The first 316 00:16:45,787 --> 00:16:50,387 Speaker 2: bit was the free to wear, but fantastic, NPC, Fara, 317 00:16:50,467 --> 00:16:54,427 Speaker 2: Palmer Cup, some Heartland Championship on free to wear. Every 318 00:16:54,507 --> 00:16:58,427 Speaker 2: sports organization now knows they must have a free to 319 00:16:58,467 --> 00:17:03,547 Speaker 2: wear element. Cricket worked it out, Netball worked it out. Rugby, no, 320 00:17:03,707 --> 00:17:06,787 Speaker 2: they have to have some free to wear. They want 321 00:17:06,867 --> 00:17:10,507 Speaker 2: as big an audience as possible on their product and 322 00:17:10,627 --> 00:17:14,067 Speaker 2: not everybody can affords guy. Fact of life, not everybody 323 00:17:14,107 --> 00:17:17,147 Speaker 2: can afford it, So having Provincial Rugby on free to 324 00:17:17,227 --> 00:17:22,187 Speaker 2: wear ticks that box. In terms of eyeballs, the big 325 00:17:22,307 --> 00:17:28,027 Speaker 2: balance in a professional sporting organization is eyeballs v. Dollars 326 00:17:28,707 --> 00:17:30,187 Speaker 2: and you've got to strike the balance. 327 00:17:30,787 --> 00:17:31,307 Speaker 6: You have to. 328 00:17:33,467 --> 00:17:36,467 Speaker 2: The hardbit about getting the balance is that you can't 329 00:17:36,507 --> 00:17:42,227 Speaker 2: really quantify the impact of eyeballs on your sport. You 330 00:17:42,307 --> 00:17:46,387 Speaker 2: can quantify dollars in your bank account, that's easy, but 331 00:17:46,507 --> 00:17:51,627 Speaker 2: you can't quantify the effect of having your product available 332 00:17:51,667 --> 00:17:54,667 Speaker 2: to as wide an audience as possible. That can only 333 00:17:54,747 --> 00:17:58,467 Speaker 2: be done anecdotally. Really. You can look at data around 334 00:17:58,547 --> 00:18:05,027 Speaker 2: things like participation, crowds, viewer numbers obviously, but you can't 335 00:18:05,147 --> 00:18:11,027 Speaker 2: really accurately measure the positive impact of eyes on your sport. 336 00:18:11,147 --> 00:18:15,667 Speaker 2: Apart from knowing that the more the better, so frediware great. 337 00:18:16,067 --> 00:18:18,467 Speaker 2: It also makes up some of the shortfall from the deal, 338 00:18:19,667 --> 00:18:22,867 Speaker 2: which is far less than the last one between Sky 339 00:18:23,627 --> 00:18:26,907 Speaker 2: and New Zealand. Rugby reports had the last deal at 340 00:18:26,947 --> 00:18:31,227 Speaker 2: one hundred and eleven million per year. This one closer 341 00:18:31,267 --> 00:18:36,347 Speaker 2: to seventy five million per year. Reportedly. The difference, obviously 342 00:18:36,427 --> 00:18:38,147 Speaker 2: back when the last one was signed was the Spark 343 00:18:38,187 --> 00:18:43,627 Speaker 2: were in the market. There was a competitive tension that 344 00:18:43,787 --> 00:18:46,907 Speaker 2: does not exist anymore, well certainly not at the moment, 345 00:18:48,107 --> 00:18:53,107 Speaker 2: so there was no bidding war going on here and 346 00:18:53,267 --> 00:18:56,067 Speaker 2: no fear from Sky really that they were going to 347 00:18:56,107 --> 00:18:58,307 Speaker 2: lose the rights. Yes, there was a bit of chat 348 00:18:58,347 --> 00:19:01,147 Speaker 2: about an overseas operator like a design or somebody like 349 00:19:01,227 --> 00:19:03,787 Speaker 2: that coming in, but it never really felt like that 350 00:19:03,947 --> 00:19:07,507 Speaker 2: was going to happen. TV in z make up some 351 00:19:07,587 --> 00:19:10,507 Speaker 2: of that shortfall. They'll be paying insid Are for the 352 00:19:10,587 --> 00:19:14,867 Speaker 2: rights to broadcast free Toware, but not all of it. 353 00:19:15,427 --> 00:19:17,987 Speaker 2: So the revenue play now for INSIDR is selling the 354 00:19:18,027 --> 00:19:20,067 Speaker 2: matches that sit outside the agreement, and that was the 355 00:19:20,147 --> 00:19:23,387 Speaker 2: other really interesting part of this for me. Five matches 356 00:19:23,467 --> 00:19:25,627 Speaker 2: by the All Blacks or featuring the All Blacks, five 357 00:19:25,667 --> 00:19:30,947 Speaker 2: matches featuring the Black ferns sit outside this agreement, so 358 00:19:32,187 --> 00:19:33,987 Speaker 2: we don't know who those games will be against or 359 00:19:33,987 --> 00:19:37,227 Speaker 2: where they'll be. But if we spit ball a bit, 360 00:19:38,667 --> 00:19:41,067 Speaker 2: it could be anywhere, couldn't they We could see the 361 00:19:41,147 --> 00:19:45,627 Speaker 2: All Blacks play the spring Box in Saudi Arabia. That 362 00:19:45,827 --> 00:19:50,187 Speaker 2: is not beyond the realms of possibility at all. INSIDR 363 00:19:50,227 --> 00:19:53,667 Speaker 2: would get a match fee for a game like that, 364 00:19:53,787 --> 00:19:57,067 Speaker 2: Plus they can now sell the broadcast rights now. I'm 365 00:19:57,107 --> 00:19:59,147 Speaker 2: sure Sky are going to be at the table for that, 366 00:19:59,507 --> 00:20:02,427 Speaker 2: and Gary Birchick can confirm that when we speak to 367 00:20:02,507 --> 00:20:04,827 Speaker 2: him a little while. I'm pretty sure that if there's 368 00:20:04,827 --> 00:20:06,627 Speaker 2: a team playing in a black jersey, scot I will 369 00:20:06,627 --> 00:20:11,347 Speaker 2: want to be at the table for that. Keeping those 370 00:20:11,387 --> 00:20:13,587 Speaker 2: games outside of this broadcast deal gives ensit Our a 371 00:20:13,627 --> 00:20:18,347 Speaker 2: bit of leverage, a bit of extra revenue generating ability. 372 00:20:19,667 --> 00:20:21,107 Speaker 2: It's just a matter where those games are going to 373 00:20:21,147 --> 00:20:25,427 Speaker 2: be and where we the customers are going to buy 374 00:20:25,507 --> 00:20:28,387 Speaker 2: them from. If they're on Sky happy days. If you're 375 00:20:28,387 --> 00:20:30,507 Speaker 2: a Sky customer, you just watch it as you always have. 376 00:20:30,787 --> 00:20:35,427 Speaker 2: But there are lots of streaming platforms with big audiences 377 00:20:35,907 --> 00:20:38,347 Speaker 2: who might be interested in dipping their toe in this water. 378 00:20:39,707 --> 00:20:43,987 Speaker 2: It is not beyond the realms of possibility that will 379 00:20:44,027 --> 00:20:48,947 Speaker 2: be watching The All Blacks on Netflix. It's quite possible, Insie. 380 00:20:48,987 --> 00:20:51,627 Speaker 2: I might find that a really attractive proposition. Look at 381 00:20:51,667 --> 00:20:56,827 Speaker 2: the numbers of Netflix subscribers that there are, and if 382 00:20:56,867 --> 00:21:00,187 Speaker 2: New Zealand Rugby feel as though they can get even 383 00:21:00,227 --> 00:21:04,827 Speaker 2: a fraction of those Netflix customers watching The All Blacks, 384 00:21:04,867 --> 00:21:08,267 Speaker 2: then you know they might take less money for a 385 00:21:08,707 --> 00:21:12,907 Speaker 2: broadcast platform of that size. Conversely, there might be a 386 00:21:12,947 --> 00:21:16,467 Speaker 2: smaller platform that is willing to pay significantly more. And 387 00:21:16,547 --> 00:21:19,027 Speaker 2: that's why ask David Cook the question, if they're getting 388 00:21:19,947 --> 00:21:22,907 Speaker 2: a big chunk of money, does it actually matter how 389 00:21:22,947 --> 00:21:25,627 Speaker 2: many people are watching? Again, it comes back to the balance, 390 00:21:25,707 --> 00:21:28,387 Speaker 2: of course it does, is the answer. Oh, eight hundred 391 00:21:28,387 --> 00:21:30,107 Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty Mark, I mate. 392 00:21:31,747 --> 00:21:34,667 Speaker 3: Hey Bonnie, Yeah, interesting about Netflix. There seem to be 393 00:21:34,827 --> 00:21:36,947 Speaker 3: more than dipping their tail into sport. They seem to 394 00:21:37,027 --> 00:21:40,947 Speaker 3: be Yeah, it seems to be the growth market putting 395 00:21:40,947 --> 00:21:44,987 Speaker 3: a lot of money into it in New Zealander. I 396 00:21:45,107 --> 00:21:48,547 Speaker 3: want to see MPC. I think this might save the NPC. 397 00:21:48,827 --> 00:21:52,467 Speaker 3: I think NPC was almost on life support and I'm 398 00:21:52,547 --> 00:21:55,947 Speaker 3: glad that people have decided, especially people with a bit 399 00:21:55,987 --> 00:21:58,747 Speaker 3: of power in the rugby to change things up, because 400 00:21:58,787 --> 00:22:01,147 Speaker 3: I think rugby was in real trouble. You know, they 401 00:22:01,147 --> 00:22:02,827 Speaker 3: were losing a lot of money even though they've got 402 00:22:02,907 --> 00:22:07,347 Speaker 3: the big injection of money. And I think we need 403 00:22:07,547 --> 00:22:10,547 Speaker 3: the NPC to be good as a feeder, you know, 404 00:22:10,747 --> 00:22:13,387 Speaker 3: through the Super Rugby and obviously on to higher honor. 405 00:22:13,627 --> 00:22:17,187 Speaker 3: To me, I think it's got to be good for rugby, 406 00:22:17,267 --> 00:22:17,587 Speaker 3: doesn't it. 407 00:22:17,987 --> 00:22:21,787 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely it does. There's no downside to me, Mark 408 00:22:22,267 --> 00:22:24,787 Speaker 2: two in PC being on Fredaware. I think it's a 409 00:22:24,827 --> 00:22:27,627 Speaker 2: boost for you know, as you say, for those those 410 00:22:27,707 --> 00:22:30,827 Speaker 2: players who get more exposure. Look, the ones who make 411 00:22:30,867 --> 00:22:33,827 Speaker 2: the decisions around elevation to Super Rugby et cetera are 412 00:22:33,907 --> 00:22:37,027 Speaker 2: watching anyway. But you know you're right. If you're watching 413 00:22:37,067 --> 00:22:39,107 Speaker 2: a game and all of a sudden someone in that 414 00:22:39,147 --> 00:22:41,707 Speaker 2: game has a stormer and there are there are tens 415 00:22:41,747 --> 00:22:43,907 Speaker 2: of thousands more people watching it and tens of thousands 416 00:22:43,987 --> 00:22:47,027 Speaker 2: more people talking about it, then yes, absolutely, And I 417 00:22:47,067 --> 00:22:50,267 Speaker 2: think from us, for us as consumers and for rugby 418 00:22:50,347 --> 00:22:53,027 Speaker 2: fans and for sports fans, if we can see something 419 00:22:53,107 --> 00:22:55,627 Speaker 2: on fred Aware as a collective, then I think that's great. 420 00:22:57,187 --> 00:22:57,347 Speaker 7: Yeah. 421 00:22:57,547 --> 00:23:01,227 Speaker 3: I'd like to see almost tickets being given. You're almost 422 00:23:01,267 --> 00:23:03,107 Speaker 3: given away to go to the games to create a 423 00:23:03,147 --> 00:23:06,027 Speaker 3: bit of atmosphere, because that's even when you're watching it 424 00:23:06,107 --> 00:23:09,707 Speaker 3: on TV, you almost get you know, there's no one there, 425 00:23:09,787 --> 00:23:12,067 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Well, I think it needs 426 00:23:12,107 --> 00:23:13,867 Speaker 3: to be a bit of a drive to actually get 427 00:23:13,907 --> 00:23:17,267 Speaker 3: people to go and watch these these MPC games. I 428 00:23:17,347 --> 00:23:19,707 Speaker 3: mean there's probably more people that turn up to some 429 00:23:19,827 --> 00:23:22,187 Speaker 3: of the high school high school rugby games and the 430 00:23:22,627 --> 00:23:24,227 Speaker 3: than their provincial teams. 431 00:23:24,587 --> 00:23:27,387 Speaker 2: Without doubt, Without doubt, I think the one A final 432 00:23:27,427 --> 00:23:30,427 Speaker 2: of Eden Park last week was a great demonstration of 433 00:23:30,507 --> 00:23:33,507 Speaker 2: that mark. From what I understand, there were hundreds of 434 00:23:33,627 --> 00:23:36,587 Speaker 2: not thousands watching that and then they sort of drifted 435 00:23:36,627 --> 00:23:39,347 Speaker 2: away once the NPC game started. I think that the 436 00:23:39,627 --> 00:23:41,547 Speaker 2: the other part of that, and it's a different subject 437 00:23:41,627 --> 00:23:44,947 Speaker 2: I know, is as venue choice, you know, you've got 438 00:23:45,027 --> 00:23:47,267 Speaker 2: to move away from the big kavanas stadiums for MPC 439 00:23:47,427 --> 00:23:47,947 Speaker 2: games have to. 440 00:23:49,107 --> 00:23:50,787 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it'll be a good idea too, but I 441 00:23:50,827 --> 00:23:53,147 Speaker 3: mean I think, yeah, getting people along, they've certainly got 442 00:23:53,227 --> 00:23:56,187 Speaker 3: to be a priority to sort of, yeah, create a 443 00:23:56,227 --> 00:23:58,347 Speaker 3: bit of environment because you said, as I said, you 444 00:23:58,427 --> 00:24:02,107 Speaker 3: certainly do notice that on the on the TV, even 445 00:24:02,147 --> 00:24:04,907 Speaker 3: when you get to the semi finals. It's sort of 446 00:24:05,067 --> 00:24:07,307 Speaker 3: like a ghost town when you when they tend to 447 00:24:07,547 --> 00:24:10,027 Speaker 3: pass the stands or whatever, you know, there's just no 448 00:24:10,147 --> 00:24:10,547 Speaker 3: one there. 449 00:24:11,107 --> 00:24:13,347 Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, good on you, Mark, good to chat mate. Thanks, 450 00:24:13,627 --> 00:24:15,947 Speaker 2: thanks for our kicking us off on this discussion of 451 00:24:16,107 --> 00:24:18,027 Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty spear line. If you 452 00:24:18,027 --> 00:24:20,747 Speaker 2: want to jump aboard, just a couple of questions. Does 453 00:24:20,827 --> 00:24:23,587 Speaker 2: it include the Lions games? Yes, is the answer. When 454 00:24:23,627 --> 00:24:25,587 Speaker 2: the British and Irish Lines women's team come here in 455 00:24:25,627 --> 00:24:28,347 Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven, and when the British and Irish Lions 456 00:24:28,467 --> 00:24:31,147 Speaker 2: men come here in twenty twenty nine, those are included 457 00:24:31,187 --> 00:24:33,587 Speaker 2: in this deal. A few people asking about the Northern 458 00:24:33,667 --> 00:24:36,147 Speaker 2: Tours at the end of the year. Those aren't New 459 00:24:36,227 --> 00:24:40,627 Speaker 2: Zealand Rugby's games to sell. They can't sell the rights 460 00:24:40,667 --> 00:24:43,547 Speaker 2: to those games because they're not We don't own those games. 461 00:24:45,147 --> 00:24:48,027 Speaker 2: So Sky will buy the right to broadcast those games 462 00:24:48,067 --> 00:24:51,987 Speaker 2: from from the rif you in England or whoever it is, 463 00:24:52,307 --> 00:24:55,627 Speaker 2: whose game it is, And I'm not exactly sure of 464 00:24:55,747 --> 00:24:59,827 Speaker 2: the current deal with those broadcasters, but I think you 465 00:24:59,907 --> 00:25:03,107 Speaker 2: can rest assured those games will be on Sky down 466 00:25:03,187 --> 00:25:07,147 Speaker 2: here twenty nine away from one. We'll take a break, Alex, 467 00:25:07,227 --> 00:25:08,467 Speaker 2: hold their mate with you. Right after this. 468 00:25:09,987 --> 00:25:13,747 Speaker 1: The Big issues on and after Field Call eight hundred 469 00:25:13,867 --> 00:25:16,467 Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason. 470 00:25:16,227 --> 00:25:17,227 Speaker 8: Fain and GJ. 471 00:25:17,427 --> 00:25:21,707 Speaker 1: Gunnerhomes New Zealand's most trusted home, Milder News talks a baby. 472 00:25:21,867 --> 00:25:24,467 Speaker 2: Coming up twenty five to one. Couple of texts, Jason, 473 00:25:24,507 --> 00:25:26,787 Speaker 2: will the Free to Wear games be live? Yes, they 474 00:25:26,787 --> 00:25:30,227 Speaker 2: will be. The Freddywear games are definitely live. And finally, 475 00:25:30,267 --> 00:25:32,947 Speaker 2: they're also saying that MPC games are live on Sky 476 00:25:33,147 --> 00:25:35,987 Speaker 2: and TV in ZI. So Sky is still broadcasting Yeah, Ken, 477 00:25:36,067 --> 00:25:41,907 Speaker 2: that's correct, So everything's on Sky. The exclusively live staff 478 00:25:42,067 --> 00:25:46,507 Speaker 2: is everything apart from MPC. MPC is also live on 479 00:25:46,747 --> 00:25:53,227 Speaker 2: TV and Z Alex. Hi, gooday, Jason, how are you good? Thanks? Major, 480 00:25:53,307 --> 00:25:56,707 Speaker 2: you're sending bright and Shiny for a Saturday afternoon mate, 481 00:25:57,387 --> 00:25:57,867 Speaker 2: I am. 482 00:25:57,827 --> 00:25:58,507 Speaker 1: I can't wait. 483 00:25:58,667 --> 00:26:00,947 Speaker 9: Long time listener, first time caller. Hey, I was just 484 00:26:01,067 --> 00:26:03,747 Speaker 9: calling them to talk about don't you think we need 485 00:26:03,867 --> 00:26:05,547 Speaker 9: more of this than Super Rugby as well? 486 00:26:06,507 --> 00:26:06,987 Speaker 2: Free to Wear? 487 00:26:08,147 --> 00:26:11,227 Speaker 9: Yeah, because if you look at the NRL and their viewership, 488 00:26:11,467 --> 00:26:15,347 Speaker 9: they are just going through the roof man and Super rugby. 489 00:26:15,387 --> 00:26:19,027 Speaker 9: We're just falling behind our crowds and everything. The Crusader 490 00:26:19,107 --> 00:26:23,227 Speaker 9: is always pulling a good crowd, but everywhere else, I 491 00:26:23,307 --> 00:26:23,587 Speaker 9: don't know. 492 00:26:24,307 --> 00:26:26,787 Speaker 2: Free to wear Super Rugby, Alex, you won't get an 493 00:26:26,827 --> 00:26:29,427 Speaker 2: argument from many people on our side of the fence 494 00:26:29,467 --> 00:26:31,867 Speaker 2: made in terms of rugby fans, who would get the 495 00:26:31,947 --> 00:26:34,027 Speaker 2: chance on a Friday night to tune into the Crusades, 496 00:26:34,147 --> 00:26:38,347 Speaker 2: Hurricanes or whatever it was. I just can't see it happening, mate, 497 00:26:38,387 --> 00:26:43,467 Speaker 2: because everything you take off pay per view reduces the 498 00:26:44,107 --> 00:26:47,907 Speaker 2: dollar amount that Sky will pay. I totally get your man. Look. 499 00:26:48,027 --> 00:26:50,147 Speaker 2: I think you know, being able to watch as much 500 00:26:50,307 --> 00:26:53,187 Speaker 2: rugby or sport free to wear as possible is a 501 00:26:53,267 --> 00:26:56,187 Speaker 2: good thing for us. I just think the sports organizations 502 00:26:56,227 --> 00:26:59,227 Speaker 2: need the revenue from broadcasts so much as I'd love 503 00:26:59,267 --> 00:27:00,987 Speaker 2: to see it happen. And are there are games on 504 00:27:01,107 --> 00:27:05,027 Speaker 2: Sky Open and now that Sky owned TV three, I 505 00:27:05,067 --> 00:27:08,067 Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if in the future the odd Super 506 00:27:08,147 --> 00:27:10,587 Speaker 2: Rugby game pops up on free too. 507 00:27:10,627 --> 00:27:14,907 Speaker 9: We are on TV three, yeah, and particularly maybe that 508 00:27:15,107 --> 00:27:18,187 Speaker 9: Magic Round too, because obviously it's going to pull up crowds, 509 00:27:18,507 --> 00:27:20,987 Speaker 9: but then people that can't make it. I think that 510 00:27:21,067 --> 00:27:23,707 Speaker 9: would be like a perfect thing. Like in christ Church 511 00:27:23,867 --> 00:27:27,067 Speaker 9: next year, they'll still sell out because it's a brand 512 00:27:27,107 --> 00:27:30,667 Speaker 9: new stadium, but if we chuck that live, so many 513 00:27:30,747 --> 00:27:31,387 Speaker 9: more people will be. 514 00:27:31,427 --> 00:27:31,987 Speaker 10: Able to watch it. 515 00:27:32,467 --> 00:27:34,627 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point, Alex. Look, it's the great 516 00:27:34,667 --> 00:27:37,667 Speaker 2: balancing act made between But you know, like I say, 517 00:27:37,827 --> 00:27:41,067 Speaker 2: a sports organization, broadcast revenue is a massive part of 518 00:27:41,507 --> 00:27:43,307 Speaker 2: how they keep their business running. And let's not forget 519 00:27:43,627 --> 00:27:46,827 Speaker 2: New Zealand Rugby needs to run the entire rugby ecosystem, 520 00:27:47,147 --> 00:27:48,707 Speaker 2: not just the top end. So they've got to get 521 00:27:48,707 --> 00:27:51,747 Speaker 2: as much money as they can from the broadcaster, while 522 00:27:51,867 --> 00:27:54,867 Speaker 2: as you say, exposing it to as many people as possible. 523 00:27:55,627 --> 00:27:55,827 Speaker 5: Yeah. 524 00:27:55,867 --> 00:27:58,187 Speaker 9: And I also think the Zelland Rugby is missing out 525 00:27:58,267 --> 00:28:02,667 Speaker 9: by not displaying the top four on TV for first 526 00:28:02,827 --> 00:28:05,787 Speaker 9: esteem rugby. I think there's potential there. I know what 527 00:28:05,867 --> 00:28:09,267 Speaker 9: the awkward principles say, but I just disagree with it, especially. 528 00:28:08,987 --> 00:28:09,627 Speaker 10: At the top four. 529 00:28:10,107 --> 00:28:13,627 Speaker 2: Good on Alex, good stuff mate who's played in the competition. 530 00:28:13,867 --> 00:28:16,907 Speaker 9: I just feel like it's better to be on show. 531 00:28:17,947 --> 00:28:19,547 Speaker 2: Give a shout out to your school mate. 532 00:28:20,947 --> 00:28:21,987 Speaker 9: Going a play of scholars. 533 00:28:23,587 --> 00:28:25,587 Speaker 2: Good on the Alex. He don't don't don't hear that 534 00:28:25,747 --> 00:28:27,707 Speaker 2: to call back any time, mate, I've enjoyed chatting to you. 535 00:28:27,987 --> 00:28:30,267 Speaker 2: Always good to get a new voice on the air. 536 00:28:30,707 --> 00:28:34,587 Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty A couple of 537 00:28:34,667 --> 00:28:36,947 Speaker 2: texts through here, done that one. Don't have to read 538 00:28:36,987 --> 00:28:40,547 Speaker 2: that one again. No point reading a text twice. Totally 539 00:28:40,547 --> 00:28:42,627 Speaker 2: agree with the call of suggesting free tickets to MPC. 540 00:28:43,347 --> 00:28:45,947 Speaker 2: Every primary and secondary score boy and girl who's registered 541 00:28:45,987 --> 00:28:48,507 Speaker 2: to play gets free tickets or a child's season ticket. 542 00:28:48,747 --> 00:28:51,187 Speaker 2: Love it, Rick, Like you said anything with that, and 543 00:28:51,387 --> 00:28:54,907 Speaker 2: like I don't want to be a year but the 544 00:28:54,987 --> 00:28:57,427 Speaker 2: Devil's Advocate. Part of it is that ticket revenue is 545 00:28:57,427 --> 00:29:00,427 Speaker 2: still a big part of what provinces, you know, can 546 00:29:00,667 --> 00:29:03,827 Speaker 2: collect gate takings. I know it's not huge, but it's 547 00:29:03,827 --> 00:29:04,427 Speaker 2: still a part of it. 548 00:29:05,227 --> 00:29:09,507 Speaker 11: Lionel, Hello, Hi, Yeah, I'm just listening to all these 549 00:29:09,587 --> 00:29:12,267 Speaker 11: comments and I think they're wonderful. But I would think, 550 00:29:12,347 --> 00:29:15,227 Speaker 11: why don't we offer packages kind of like a loyalty 551 00:29:15,267 --> 00:29:19,507 Speaker 11: scheme you by the season, make your tickets really affordable, 552 00:29:19,547 --> 00:29:22,827 Speaker 11: and get the private enterprise to come in with incentives, 553 00:29:23,307 --> 00:29:25,507 Speaker 11: like you know, if you get if you want side 554 00:29:25,547 --> 00:29:27,667 Speaker 11: of the whole season, the last game, you'll get us 555 00:29:27,667 --> 00:29:33,987 Speaker 11: a freebie or stuff like loyalty points, et cetera, et cetera, competitions, 556 00:29:34,067 --> 00:29:37,427 Speaker 11: et cetera. On the game awards. An incentive to draw 557 00:29:37,587 --> 00:29:40,747 Speaker 11: people is apart from the ticket, because I think a 558 00:29:40,787 --> 00:29:44,187 Speaker 11: lot of people in this economic times are hurting. You know, 559 00:29:44,227 --> 00:29:47,267 Speaker 11: you've got to think twice. Whereas it's great it happens 560 00:29:47,267 --> 00:29:49,227 Speaker 11: if you had a Rugby stadium, but if you watch 561 00:29:49,267 --> 00:29:51,667 Speaker 11: it on TV, you actually see more of the game 562 00:29:51,747 --> 00:29:54,667 Speaker 11: in many ways because it's cameras and pointing. So I 563 00:29:54,787 --> 00:29:58,787 Speaker 11: would advocate for package deals which are really good and 564 00:29:58,907 --> 00:30:02,307 Speaker 11: family wise or individual wise, it get me to the game. 565 00:30:02,387 --> 00:30:05,307 Speaker 11: And then there's there's such a flip at the Overseas 566 00:30:05,387 --> 00:30:09,347 Speaker 11: International Soccer they start seeing it is really an outing 567 00:30:10,027 --> 00:30:12,307 Speaker 11: and if it's an affordable outda and the food is 568 00:30:12,747 --> 00:30:14,907 Speaker 11: that they show you around there is not too expensive, 569 00:30:15,227 --> 00:30:17,547 Speaker 11: I'm pretty sure you're going to attract a lot more. 570 00:30:17,427 --> 00:30:21,187 Speaker 2: People without Doubtlinel, Yeah, look, the more people coming through 571 00:30:21,227 --> 00:30:23,427 Speaker 2: the gate, the better. It looks better on TV as well. 572 00:30:23,627 --> 00:30:25,547 Speaker 2: And I guess the fact that if something's on free 573 00:30:25,587 --> 00:30:28,027 Speaker 2: to wear as well as you say, if somebody's watching 574 00:30:28,027 --> 00:30:30,027 Speaker 2: a game of rugby free to wear and I think, hey, 575 00:30:30,067 --> 00:30:32,107 Speaker 2: that looks quite cool and there's a game in there 576 00:30:32,227 --> 00:30:34,587 Speaker 2: town or wherever it is, they might just be more 577 00:30:34,627 --> 00:30:36,147 Speaker 2: inclined to go along. And as you say, if you 578 00:30:36,187 --> 00:30:38,387 Speaker 2: add a little you had a little incentive there in 579 00:30:38,507 --> 00:30:41,467 Speaker 2: terms of you know, a good pricing. You know some 580 00:30:41,667 --> 00:30:45,467 Speaker 2: sponsor offerings can only be good. Appreciate you call Lionel. 581 00:30:45,587 --> 00:30:49,467 Speaker 2: Thanks mate, Cam. You're taking the Ramfully Shield home to Hamilton. 582 00:30:49,027 --> 00:30:52,667 Speaker 12: Today hopefully pininy Hell are you today? Mate? 583 00:30:52,827 --> 00:30:53,027 Speaker 13: Good? 584 00:30:53,147 --> 00:30:53,627 Speaker 2: Thanks mate? 585 00:30:53,707 --> 00:30:58,387 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, hey big way A fan forever. I was 586 00:30:58,427 --> 00:31:00,867 Speaker 12: here in nineteen ninety three when we took the Shield 587 00:31:00,907 --> 00:31:04,387 Speaker 12: off Auckland and always love listen to you. 588 00:31:06,027 --> 00:31:07,667 Speaker 2: Thanks can. That's very kind of you, mate. So what 589 00:31:07,787 --> 00:31:10,267 Speaker 2: times do you give your boys against the Amber and 590 00:31:10,347 --> 00:31:11,507 Speaker 2: Blacks this afternoon? 591 00:31:12,547 --> 00:31:15,907 Speaker 12: Look, tab's one twenty two to four dollars. I saved 592 00:31:16,867 --> 00:31:19,907 Speaker 12: thirty seventy to Taraniki. Unfortunately it's a four. 593 00:31:19,947 --> 00:31:22,987 Speaker 2: Other mooner's paying four dollars to work this afternoon. 594 00:31:23,627 --> 00:31:28,267 Speaker 12: Yes they are yeah wow yeah, but always listen to 595 00:31:28,307 --> 00:31:32,587 Speaker 12: you every Saturday and between midday and one. You guys 596 00:31:32,627 --> 00:31:36,027 Speaker 12: are awesome and to order way can they people out 597 00:31:36,067 --> 00:31:37,787 Speaker 12: there for I love you guys and leave you. 598 00:31:41,667 --> 00:31:44,027 Speaker 2: Your little beyonly Cam. I love that mate. 599 00:31:44,107 --> 00:31:44,507 Speaker 1: I love that. 600 00:31:44,827 --> 00:31:47,347 Speaker 2: It's not bad money actually for the Molu men. Good 601 00:31:47,387 --> 00:31:49,027 Speaker 2: on your cam. I appreciate your kind words and you 602 00:31:49,147 --> 00:31:51,227 Speaker 2: call just on nineteen away from one. Got to take 603 00:31:51,267 --> 00:31:53,147 Speaker 2: a break, come back and check them with Sky? What 604 00:31:53,347 --> 00:31:55,587 Speaker 2: do they feel about this deal? Gary Burchett is the 605 00:31:55,707 --> 00:31:57,667 Speaker 2: head of Sport. He's standing by to chat to us 606 00:31:57,667 --> 00:31:58,827 Speaker 2: after this one. 607 00:31:59,027 --> 00:32:04,267 Speaker 1: Crouch hold Engage Weekend Sports with Jason Paine and GJ 608 00:32:04,547 --> 00:32:07,507 Speaker 1: under Homes, New Zealand's first US to No Milder News 609 00:32:07,587 --> 00:32:08,107 Speaker 1: Toms b. 610 00:32:08,707 --> 00:32:11,187 Speaker 2: Twelve forty four on Weekend Sport. We've been talking the 611 00:32:11,267 --> 00:32:14,587 Speaker 2: freshly signed broadcast deal announced yesterday between New Zealand Rugby 612 00:32:14,627 --> 00:32:17,947 Speaker 2: and Sky. Gary Burchett is head of Sport Content at 613 00:32:18,027 --> 00:32:20,667 Speaker 2: Sky and joins us. Now, good afternoon, Gary. How happy 614 00:32:20,747 --> 00:32:21,907 Speaker 2: are you with this outcome? 615 00:32:22,867 --> 00:32:25,347 Speaker 14: Jason, good day to you and to your listeners. Are 616 00:32:25,507 --> 00:32:30,027 Speaker 14: tremendously happy, yes, and rightly so. You know, rugby is 617 00:32:30,987 --> 00:32:35,227 Speaker 14: the backbone of sporting passions in this country, and the 618 00:32:35,307 --> 00:32:38,147 Speaker 14: Black Ferns and the all Blacks. You know, they're the 619 00:32:38,147 --> 00:32:41,707 Speaker 14: strongest product we have. They're a huge driver for subscription, 620 00:32:42,427 --> 00:32:44,427 Speaker 14: they're a huge talking point in this country. So to 621 00:32:44,547 --> 00:32:49,347 Speaker 14: secure that high quality rugby for another five years is 622 00:32:49,387 --> 00:32:52,067 Speaker 14: a wonderful shot in the arm for us, for nz 623 00:32:52,267 --> 00:32:54,947 Speaker 14: R and for rugby fans in our Tatar roller. 624 00:32:55,627 --> 00:33:00,467 Speaker 2: Were there any particular sticking points, any challenging parts of 625 00:33:00,507 --> 00:33:03,427 Speaker 2: this negotiation that has taken us to what are we 626 00:33:03,547 --> 00:33:06,507 Speaker 2: now getting towards the end of August before everything was 627 00:33:06,987 --> 00:33:07,507 Speaker 2: locked away? 628 00:33:08,467 --> 00:33:10,747 Speaker 14: Well, I think I think we can both be pretty 629 00:33:10,787 --> 00:33:13,387 Speaker 14: candid and know that the talks went on for some time, right. 630 00:33:13,587 --> 00:33:16,827 Speaker 14: It's you know, when you're looking to secure you know, 631 00:33:16,947 --> 00:33:19,547 Speaker 14: rights for this period and few ends that are and 632 00:33:19,627 --> 00:33:22,307 Speaker 14: you're looking for the right partner. Of course, there are 633 00:33:22,347 --> 00:33:24,667 Speaker 14: going to be sticking points, and I wasn't at the 634 00:33:24,747 --> 00:33:27,627 Speaker 14: negotiating table, so I'm not privy to what the minutia 635 00:33:27,827 --> 00:33:31,827 Speaker 14: was for those sticking points. But looks as someone who's 636 00:33:31,907 --> 00:33:35,747 Speaker 14: charged with entertaining sports fans and my job is to 637 00:33:35,827 --> 00:33:37,787 Speaker 14: make the rugby look great, all I can say is 638 00:33:37,907 --> 00:33:40,827 Speaker 14: that it set me up for a superb weekend and 639 00:33:41,347 --> 00:33:46,627 Speaker 14: it's just a wonderful and invigorating development just for my colleagues, 640 00:33:46,627 --> 00:33:49,587 Speaker 14: you know, who work week in week out, you know 641 00:33:49,667 --> 00:33:52,067 Speaker 14: putting on you know, such high quality of rugby for 642 00:33:52,147 --> 00:33:53,147 Speaker 14: our sports fans. 643 00:33:53,187 --> 00:33:55,907 Speaker 2: So look, we're thrilled as a business that operates in 644 00:33:55,947 --> 00:33:58,227 Speaker 2: the pay per view space. Are you on board with 645 00:33:58,307 --> 00:34:00,787 Speaker 2: New Zealand rugby and other sports as well, Gary wanting 646 00:34:01,147 --> 00:34:05,507 Speaker 2: free to wear elements in their broadcast deals? Yeah, of course. 647 00:34:05,547 --> 00:34:07,547 Speaker 14: And if I was on the other side, I'm looking 648 00:34:07,587 --> 00:34:09,707 Speaker 14: for exposure. I'm looking for as many eyeballs as I 649 00:34:09,747 --> 00:34:14,387 Speaker 14: possibly can. But we have, you know, and presently do 650 00:34:14,507 --> 00:34:17,707 Speaker 14: have a freeoware platform in sky Open and a number 651 00:34:17,707 --> 00:34:21,347 Speaker 14: of our media rights agreements specify that a certain number 652 00:34:21,387 --> 00:34:27,267 Speaker 14: of matches need to be on freeoware TV. So it's 653 00:34:27,307 --> 00:34:29,067 Speaker 14: nothing new. I guess TV three is just a newer 654 00:34:29,067 --> 00:34:31,747 Speaker 14: and a shinier model. It's going to garner more eyeballs, 655 00:34:31,787 --> 00:34:35,347 Speaker 14: so absolutely, and it's a great way to increase the 656 00:34:35,427 --> 00:34:37,867 Speaker 14: profile of a sport and get more New Zealand as 657 00:34:38,427 --> 00:34:39,387 Speaker 14: cheering around their teams. 658 00:34:39,907 --> 00:34:42,547 Speaker 2: So Sky now owns TV three. So are you keen 659 00:34:42,627 --> 00:34:44,467 Speaker 2: to see in the future free to wear sport on 660 00:34:44,547 --> 00:34:45,027 Speaker 2: TV three? 661 00:34:47,187 --> 00:34:51,507 Speaker 14: Yes, But very selfishly speaking, the Sky Sports subscriber must 662 00:34:51,547 --> 00:34:55,507 Speaker 14: come first. They're the ones that put you know, money 663 00:34:55,547 --> 00:34:57,507 Speaker 14: into the coffers, but they are also the ones that 664 00:34:57,587 --> 00:34:59,587 Speaker 14: help finance such deals that we've just done with New 665 00:34:59,627 --> 00:35:03,267 Speaker 14: Zealand rugby. It is you know, the hard working coin 666 00:35:03,427 --> 00:35:07,627 Speaker 14: from our subscribers that helps generate, you know, our productions 667 00:35:07,787 --> 00:35:10,827 Speaker 14: and allows us to secure the right. So yes, I 668 00:35:10,907 --> 00:35:15,747 Speaker 14: am absolutely comfortable with sport being on free to wear, 669 00:35:16,467 --> 00:35:19,907 Speaker 14: but the way I operate and the way Sky operates, 670 00:35:19,947 --> 00:35:22,107 Speaker 14: we have to be very loyal to our loyal customers. 671 00:35:22,587 --> 00:35:26,267 Speaker 2: How much of an anchor are or how much sorry, 672 00:35:26,267 --> 00:35:29,547 Speaker 2: how much of an anchor is rugby for your sports subscribers? 673 00:35:30,667 --> 00:35:31,147 Speaker 5: It's huge. 674 00:35:31,867 --> 00:35:33,707 Speaker 14: Like one of the first things the I did when 675 00:35:33,747 --> 00:35:35,667 Speaker 14: I came into the role was to go to the 676 00:35:35,707 --> 00:35:39,667 Speaker 14: customer team and just to understand the drivers for subscription. 677 00:35:40,467 --> 00:35:42,827 Speaker 14: And I don't think it to surprise you that the 678 00:35:42,947 --> 00:35:45,907 Speaker 14: number one sport as to why people would. 679 00:35:45,707 --> 00:35:46,987 Speaker 2: Subscribe to Sky is rugby. 680 00:35:47,827 --> 00:35:50,867 Speaker 14: Number two is NRL number three and this was the 681 00:35:50,907 --> 00:35:54,667 Speaker 14: fun that really surprised me is motorsport. So yeah, I 682 00:35:54,747 --> 00:35:57,467 Speaker 14: mean rugby is far and away the sport that has 683 00:35:57,467 --> 00:36:00,587 Speaker 14: made New Zealand famous. The All Blacks are an international 684 00:36:00,707 --> 00:36:05,427 Speaker 14: brand there. When people talk about, you know, such distinguished 685 00:36:06,347 --> 00:36:08,867 Speaker 14: boarding teams, you think about the Yankees, you think about 686 00:36:08,907 --> 00:36:12,827 Speaker 14: Real Madrid, you think about Manchester United, and you think 687 00:36:12,867 --> 00:36:15,307 Speaker 14: about the All Blacks, So they're in They're in that realm. 688 00:36:15,547 --> 00:36:17,507 Speaker 14: I mean, they are such a big deal, which is 689 00:36:17,547 --> 00:36:21,667 Speaker 14: why we're absolutely delighted that we can continue being partners 690 00:36:21,707 --> 00:36:23,427 Speaker 14: with NZR and the Black Ferns and the All Blacks 691 00:36:23,467 --> 00:36:24,987 Speaker 14: for the next five years and. 692 00:36:25,227 --> 00:36:27,187 Speaker 2: Zell and Rugby has reserved the right to play up 693 00:36:27,227 --> 00:36:30,067 Speaker 2: to five offshore All Blacks and Black Ferns matches respectively 694 00:36:30,107 --> 00:36:33,267 Speaker 2: over the five year term. They will sit outside this 695 00:36:33,387 --> 00:36:37,707 Speaker 2: broadcast agreement negotiated on a match by match basis well 696 00:36:37,987 --> 00:36:40,467 Speaker 2: Sky bid to broadcast those games. 697 00:36:41,427 --> 00:36:46,747 Speaker 14: I think you know the answer to that. If there's 698 00:36:46,747 --> 00:36:49,627 Speaker 14: All Blacks or Black Ferns available, Yeah, I mean, we'd 699 00:36:49,667 --> 00:36:52,507 Speaker 14: want to be in the running. And we can understand 700 00:36:52,547 --> 00:36:55,947 Speaker 14: and appreciate he's going to Rugby wanting to take certain 701 00:36:55,987 --> 00:36:59,467 Speaker 14: matches outside of this territory completely. 702 00:36:59,507 --> 00:37:00,187 Speaker 2: I completely get it. 703 00:37:00,227 --> 00:37:02,747 Speaker 14: I mean, I'm personally looking forward to watching the All 704 00:37:02,747 --> 00:37:05,667 Speaker 14: Blacks take on Ireland in Chicago. And I guess what 705 00:37:05,707 --> 00:37:09,027 Speaker 14: a lot of people do don't know is that Sky 706 00:37:09,147 --> 00:37:11,747 Speaker 14: Sports is actually the production partner and host broadcaster of 707 00:37:11,867 --> 00:37:14,427 Speaker 14: that event. So our directors and our producers and our 708 00:37:14,467 --> 00:37:18,547 Speaker 14: key broadcast personnel will be working alongside American crew to 709 00:37:18,627 --> 00:37:21,667 Speaker 14: put on that test match, and I think I think 710 00:37:21,707 --> 00:37:23,667 Speaker 14: that's going to be a consideration for ends that are 711 00:37:23,867 --> 00:37:26,067 Speaker 14: that they know there's one thing about actually having the 712 00:37:26,107 --> 00:37:27,427 Speaker 14: rights to the match, but who's going to stage it, 713 00:37:27,427 --> 00:37:29,667 Speaker 14: who's going to put on the production. The wonderful thing 714 00:37:29,667 --> 00:37:32,507 Speaker 14: about Sky is that we've been in people's loungees and 715 00:37:32,587 --> 00:37:35,347 Speaker 14: screens for the best part of thirty years showcasing rugby. 716 00:37:35,867 --> 00:37:38,387 Speaker 14: We have a proven reputation of putting on high class 717 00:37:38,787 --> 00:37:41,187 Speaker 14: rugby productions and that I know that gives ends it 718 00:37:41,267 --> 00:37:42,267 Speaker 14: are a lot of comfort. 719 00:37:42,627 --> 00:37:46,107 Speaker 2: When that sort of negotiation period comes around, when we 720 00:37:46,187 --> 00:37:48,107 Speaker 2: know when, when, and where these matches are going to be, 721 00:37:48,187 --> 00:37:50,627 Speaker 2: the ones that sit outside the agreement. How do you 722 00:37:50,667 --> 00:37:52,667 Speaker 2: even start their negotiation? Gara, how do you know what 723 00:37:53,547 --> 00:37:56,587 Speaker 2: you know the rights to one game are actually worth? 724 00:37:57,347 --> 00:37:57,987 Speaker 8: Really good question. 725 00:37:58,147 --> 00:38:00,627 Speaker 14: I don't know the answer to that, And you know, 726 00:38:00,907 --> 00:38:03,827 Speaker 14: I was having a think about that. Those valuations, I mean, 727 00:38:03,867 --> 00:38:06,147 Speaker 14: I guess you know, valuations are also sort of in 728 00:38:06,547 --> 00:38:09,507 Speaker 14: to performance. So if teams and leagues are doing particularly 729 00:38:09,547 --> 00:38:12,467 Speaker 14: well and they're rating well, you know there's a lot 730 00:38:12,467 --> 00:38:15,547 Speaker 14: of market support, the commercialization is healthy. Then I think 731 00:38:15,587 --> 00:38:18,547 Speaker 14: that also adds to you know, the conversation on how 732 00:38:18,587 --> 00:38:22,147 Speaker 14: you actually price up an event. But you know, look, 733 00:38:22,147 --> 00:38:24,667 Speaker 14: I think there is an appetite absolutely to take the 734 00:38:24,747 --> 00:38:27,747 Speaker 14: New Zealand all Blacks and Black Ferns rugby team brands 735 00:38:28,107 --> 00:38:31,307 Speaker 14: globally to to you know, to build an international fan base. 736 00:38:31,347 --> 00:38:34,387 Speaker 14: And we're really wholly supportive of that. It's a it's 737 00:38:34,387 --> 00:38:36,987 Speaker 14: a really pragmatic way of thinking. And yeah, absolutely we 738 00:38:37,027 --> 00:38:38,227 Speaker 14: want to be we want to be at the table. 739 00:38:38,227 --> 00:38:40,947 Speaker 14: We certainly, we certainly want to have more you know, 740 00:38:41,027 --> 00:38:43,787 Speaker 14: teams in black paraded on Sky Sports screens, all. 741 00:38:43,747 --> 00:38:46,027 Speaker 2: Right, and with the rights locked in now for the 742 00:38:46,107 --> 00:38:48,427 Speaker 2: next five years. You've always been a big fan of 743 00:38:48,587 --> 00:38:51,387 Speaker 2: innovation and broadcast coverage. Are you're keen to do some 744 00:38:52,027 --> 00:38:54,187 Speaker 2: new and different things in your rugby coverage over the 745 00:38:54,267 --> 00:38:54,907 Speaker 2: next five years? 746 00:38:55,587 --> 00:38:58,987 Speaker 14: I really am, Yes, I think you know, I've always 747 00:38:59,027 --> 00:39:02,707 Speaker 14: taken the view that our job as broadcasters and storytellers 748 00:39:02,787 --> 00:39:04,987 Speaker 14: is to bring people closer to the sports that they love. 749 00:39:05,947 --> 00:39:09,827 Speaker 14: I've had, I've had wonderful opportunities to do with with 750 00:39:09,907 --> 00:39:12,347 Speaker 14: Big Bash League, you know, putting putting cameras in the 751 00:39:12,427 --> 00:39:16,147 Speaker 14: hats of umpires and in helmets of batters, you know, 752 00:39:16,507 --> 00:39:19,587 Speaker 14: I was involved in the technology where we might Dutch 753 00:39:19,587 --> 00:39:23,267 Speaker 14: shamee war and ball by ball. So yeah, innovation is 754 00:39:23,307 --> 00:39:27,147 Speaker 14: a really important part of our work. A. We do 755 00:39:27,307 --> 00:39:28,907 Speaker 14: need to bring our viewers close to the sport. We 756 00:39:29,027 --> 00:39:30,747 Speaker 14: need to make sure that they feel like they're watching 757 00:39:30,747 --> 00:39:33,787 Speaker 14: a premium event. So there's some really cool technology. And 758 00:39:33,827 --> 00:39:36,267 Speaker 14: I know you're a football fan. You might have seen 759 00:39:36,267 --> 00:39:39,107 Speaker 14: the body cams. Yes that the ben been trialing and football. 760 00:39:39,147 --> 00:39:41,027 Speaker 14: So there's like a little stabilized camera you put it 761 00:39:41,067 --> 00:39:43,267 Speaker 14: on the ref and because the ref is pretty much 762 00:39:43,267 --> 00:39:45,467 Speaker 14: following the ball, it's almost like you've got a camera 763 00:39:45,587 --> 00:39:48,507 Speaker 14: person just following and tracking the live action. I mean, 764 00:39:48,547 --> 00:39:52,667 Speaker 14: that is a really intimate way of bringing the game, 765 00:39:52,907 --> 00:39:55,547 Speaker 14: you know, to football supporters. So yeah, I mean I'm 766 00:39:55,627 --> 00:39:58,107 Speaker 14: always up for a conversation with any of our sporting 767 00:39:58,187 --> 00:40:00,507 Speaker 14: codes to try and elevate the viewing experience. 768 00:40:00,747 --> 00:40:02,507 Speaker 2: Well, congress to you and the team at Sky for 769 00:40:02,667 --> 00:40:05,547 Speaker 2: securing rugby rights over the next five years. Really appreciate 770 00:40:05,587 --> 00:40:07,467 Speaker 2: you insight the stuff and Gary, thanks for joining us. 771 00:40:07,707 --> 00:40:08,667 Speaker 8: I appreciate your support. 772 00:40:08,747 --> 00:40:11,147 Speaker 2: Jason, thank you, no, thank you, Garry. Gary Birchett, head 773 00:40:11,267 --> 00:40:14,867 Speaker 2: of Sport Content at Sky eight to one News, Talk Seppi. 774 00:40:15,627 --> 00:40:20,587 Speaker 1: Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fails weekend 775 00:40:20,707 --> 00:40:24,027 Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Pin News Talk Zenvy. 776 00:40:24,267 --> 00:40:27,107 Speaker 2: Coming up four to one, Andy says the Stags won't 777 00:40:27,147 --> 00:40:29,387 Speaker 2: need to be on the TV Piney because everyone in 778 00:40:29,427 --> 00:40:31,587 Speaker 2: the South will be at the game the way they're going, 779 00:40:32,067 --> 00:40:36,427 Speaker 2: I've only won two games at a row Eddie. Calm down, mate, especially, 780 00:40:36,507 --> 00:40:38,787 Speaker 2: he continues, when White Cuttle will take the shield today 781 00:40:39,467 --> 00:40:41,787 Speaker 2: and Southland does a hit and run in Hamilton next week, 782 00:40:41,827 --> 00:40:45,587 Speaker 2: I had done this, those those sums clearly you have. 783 00:40:46,347 --> 00:40:48,587 Speaker 2: I don't know whether White Cutter win the shield this afternoon. 784 00:40:48,627 --> 00:40:49,027 Speaker 3: You know, I. 785 00:40:50,507 --> 00:40:53,547 Speaker 2: Enjoyed chatting to Cam before with this cow bell. I 786 00:40:53,667 --> 00:40:56,627 Speaker 2: love that, and a big part of me wants, you know, 787 00:40:57,387 --> 00:41:00,347 Speaker 2: such passionate fans as those in the White cutto to 788 00:41:01,347 --> 00:41:02,907 Speaker 2: take the shield back. They seem to have had it 789 00:41:02,947 --> 00:41:05,267 Speaker 2: a lot though, really haven't they. It seems like they've 790 00:41:05,307 --> 00:41:08,467 Speaker 2: sort of got it every every other year. That said, 791 00:41:08,587 --> 00:41:12,467 Speaker 2: without any that any research deeper than just my memory 792 00:41:12,467 --> 00:41:14,027 Speaker 2: about when the last time they had the log. But 793 00:41:14,227 --> 00:41:18,787 Speaker 2: you know they've had it. Tellannaky White Cuddle this afternoon, 794 00:41:18,827 --> 00:41:21,227 Speaker 2: five past two in New Plymouth, why should gets you 795 00:41:21,267 --> 00:41:23,627 Speaker 2: a preview of that game with our Gold Sport lead 796 00:41:23,667 --> 00:41:26,587 Speaker 2: commentator Phil Quinny. He's seen a lot of rugby at 797 00:41:26,627 --> 00:41:28,267 Speaker 2: that park. I can tell you. He's on the show 798 00:41:28,347 --> 00:41:32,187 Speaker 2: after one o'clock, but first up after the news. Want 799 00:41:32,227 --> 00:41:35,547 Speaker 2: to pay tribute to Cody Taylor, who will tomorrow morning 800 00:41:35,587 --> 00:41:38,467 Speaker 2: become an All Black centurion. Just the fourteenth guy to 801 00:41:38,547 --> 00:41:40,547 Speaker 2: do that. A couple of us former All Blacks and 802 00:41:40,627 --> 00:41:42,667 Speaker 2: Crusader's teammates pay tribute after one. 803 00:41:44,347 --> 00:41:47,147 Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest Fours issues on 804 00:41:47,627 --> 00:41:48,787 Speaker 1: and after fields. 805 00:41:49,347 --> 00:41:52,627 Speaker 8: It's all on w James Ford with Jason Pade on 806 00:41:52,787 --> 00:41:56,067 Speaker 8: your home of Sport News Talks. 807 00:41:57,227 --> 00:41:59,107 Speaker 2: One o seven. This is weekend Sport on News Talk. 808 00:41:59,147 --> 00:42:02,307 Speaker 2: Saidb I'm Jason Fine, Andy McDonald's show producer, Hits All three. 809 00:42:02,467 --> 00:42:06,987 Speaker 2: A special day for Cody Taylor. Tomorrow he will become 810 00:42:07,067 --> 00:42:10,747 Speaker 2: the fourteenth All Blacks centurion when he runs out against 811 00:42:10,827 --> 00:42:14,827 Speaker 2: Argentina and Buenas series. He debuted against that same opposition 812 00:42:14,907 --> 00:42:17,507 Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen in christ Church, coming off the bench 813 00:42:17,587 --> 00:42:20,387 Speaker 2: and scoring a try. Well, the All Blacks screw it this. 814 00:42:20,547 --> 00:42:24,267 Speaker 15: Time and mccaur has it a great piece of destructive 815 00:42:24,347 --> 00:42:26,467 Speaker 15: scrummaging there from the All Blacks, they go. 816 00:42:26,627 --> 00:42:27,227 Speaker 8: For the lane. 817 00:42:31,427 --> 00:42:36,147 Speaker 5: That's Taylor, not defeat a night at this time. 818 00:42:36,347 --> 00:42:40,347 Speaker 2: Staring night devout. Yeah, that was Cody Taylor. A decade ago. 819 00:42:40,987 --> 00:42:45,507 Speaker 2: Tomorrow Morning Test number one hundred. White Crockett played seventy 820 00:42:45,627 --> 00:42:47,627 Speaker 2: two times for the All Blacks in a record two 821 00:42:47,747 --> 00:42:51,307 Speaker 2: hundred and three games for the Crusaders between two thousand 822 00:42:51,347 --> 00:42:53,507 Speaker 2: and six and twenty eighteen, the last six of those 823 00:42:53,587 --> 00:42:56,387 Speaker 2: years alongside Cody Taylor. He joins US now White. Can 824 00:42:56,427 --> 00:42:59,987 Speaker 2: you remember the first time you became aware of Cody 825 00:43:00,067 --> 00:43:01,787 Speaker 2: Taylor as a rugby player. 826 00:43:02,667 --> 00:43:02,907 Speaker 6: I do. 827 00:43:03,307 --> 00:43:06,267 Speaker 13: I remember it was a preseason game for the Cruse 828 00:43:08,507 --> 00:43:11,747 Speaker 13: and he came off the bench and I think his 829 00:43:11,907 --> 00:43:14,547 Speaker 13: first touch of the ball, he got the ball inside 830 00:43:14,587 --> 00:43:18,907 Speaker 13: our half halfway line, stepped two or three people and 831 00:43:19,147 --> 00:43:23,307 Speaker 13: sprinted off and beat the fullback for pace, caught under 832 00:43:23,347 --> 00:43:27,107 Speaker 13: the post. And I was sitting next to Krew Flynn 833 00:43:27,467 --> 00:43:30,387 Speaker 13: in the stands because we went playing we're having a 834 00:43:30,467 --> 00:43:33,027 Speaker 13: bit of a longer break at the start of the season, 835 00:43:33,307 --> 00:43:36,587 Speaker 13: and I said, oh, Jesus can can play mate. I 836 00:43:36,667 --> 00:43:38,587 Speaker 13: think he wanted to keep an eye on this one, 837 00:43:38,867 --> 00:43:42,507 Speaker 13: and yeah, and he's turned out to be pretty bloody good. 838 00:43:42,707 --> 00:43:44,587 Speaker 2: He certainly has so once he got into a team 839 00:43:44,707 --> 00:43:47,387 Speaker 2: environment with him, I mean that's your first impression and 840 00:43:47,827 --> 00:43:49,827 Speaker 2: a pretty decent first impression once he came into the 841 00:43:49,827 --> 00:43:52,547 Speaker 2: team environment. How did you find Cody Taylor early on 842 00:43:53,107 --> 00:43:54,667 Speaker 2: in his professional rugby career? 843 00:43:56,307 --> 00:43:59,347 Speaker 13: Well, he started off how he is now. He hasn't 844 00:43:59,427 --> 00:44:02,107 Speaker 13: changed at all. Really. I think he just you know, 845 00:44:02,227 --> 00:44:07,187 Speaker 13: he's super dedicated to his craft and getting better, and 846 00:44:07,347 --> 00:44:09,427 Speaker 13: that was right from the get go. You know, he's 847 00:44:09,547 --> 00:44:14,747 Speaker 13: really meticulous about his nutrition and his training, and I think, 848 00:44:14,867 --> 00:44:19,147 Speaker 13: you know, like looking at him now, you know, I 849 00:44:19,227 --> 00:44:21,947 Speaker 13: feel like he's still getting better and still playing absolutely 850 00:44:21,987 --> 00:44:25,267 Speaker 13: at the peak of his powers, so you know, and 851 00:44:25,587 --> 00:44:27,627 Speaker 13: that's credit to the work that he does. And I 852 00:44:27,707 --> 00:44:30,547 Speaker 13: think also another fact thing that I think about Cody 853 00:44:30,587 --> 00:44:33,067 Speaker 13: as you see, super super well balanced guy. You know, 854 00:44:33,147 --> 00:44:36,987 Speaker 13: he's a family man. You know, he enjoys himself off 855 00:44:37,067 --> 00:44:39,227 Speaker 13: the off the field, but when he's in the in 856 00:44:39,307 --> 00:44:41,427 Speaker 13: that team environment, he's working extremely hard. 857 00:44:41,827 --> 00:44:43,547 Speaker 2: There are a few hookers around and I'm sure you've 858 00:44:43,587 --> 00:44:45,747 Speaker 2: come across them who are a bit chirpy. They don't 859 00:44:45,747 --> 00:44:47,347 Speaker 2: mind a chat, especially at scrum time. 860 00:44:47,467 --> 00:44:48,107 Speaker 8: Was he ever like that? 861 00:44:48,907 --> 00:44:53,027 Speaker 13: No, not at all. Cody was Cody was head down 862 00:44:53,827 --> 00:44:59,307 Speaker 13: and actions a lot like Kivy Melamo. I think, you know, 863 00:44:59,467 --> 00:45:01,707 Speaker 13: he just you know, just led his action instead of talking, 864 00:45:01,827 --> 00:45:04,907 Speaker 13: and you know, very rarely, I mean, I must say, 865 00:45:05,547 --> 00:45:08,587 Speaker 13: you know, he he didn't you enjoy a good scrum 866 00:45:08,667 --> 00:45:10,587 Speaker 13: win and he might maybe have a couple of words 867 00:45:10,627 --> 00:45:13,387 Speaker 13: at that point, but now I think he is real 868 00:45:13,547 --> 00:45:14,987 Speaker 13: actions man, rather than words. 869 00:45:15,627 --> 00:45:18,547 Speaker 2: You've wrapped your arm around a few blokes wearing wearing 870 00:45:18,587 --> 00:45:20,347 Speaker 2: the two jumper or the sixteen jump or whatever it 871 00:45:20,427 --> 00:45:22,387 Speaker 2: might be. What as a as a front row forward? 872 00:45:22,867 --> 00:45:24,947 Speaker 2: What do you want from your hooker? 873 00:45:26,747 --> 00:45:32,427 Speaker 13: Of communication? And I think is really important. So he 874 00:45:32,547 --> 00:45:35,227 Speaker 13: can he can feel different things that you can't, especially 875 00:45:35,267 --> 00:45:38,187 Speaker 13: as a loose head. He's feeling different things from the 876 00:45:38,227 --> 00:45:38,827 Speaker 13: tight head. 877 00:45:38,667 --> 00:45:39,227 Speaker 6: Than what I am. 878 00:45:39,347 --> 00:45:43,587 Speaker 13: So he'll let me know little things that's happening and 879 00:45:43,707 --> 00:45:46,307 Speaker 13: things that I can do to to help him out 880 00:45:46,347 --> 00:45:49,387 Speaker 13: and vice versa. You know, if I find feeling something 881 00:45:49,427 --> 00:45:52,547 Speaker 13: that I'm not getting from him, that that communication was 882 00:45:52,547 --> 00:45:56,627 Speaker 13: always open. But but yeah, I think that's that's really important. 883 00:45:58,307 --> 00:46:02,547 Speaker 13: And yeah, I suppose just you know, just having someone 884 00:46:02,627 --> 00:46:04,707 Speaker 13: that does what they say they're going to do and 885 00:46:05,027 --> 00:46:07,747 Speaker 13: works really hard to someone that you can really trust, 886 00:46:08,987 --> 00:46:12,627 Speaker 13: because you know you as a prop, you really just 887 00:46:12,787 --> 00:46:16,267 Speaker 13: rely on your hookers so so much, and he's not 888 00:46:16,347 --> 00:46:18,227 Speaker 13: where you need him to be. It's pretty pretty tough 889 00:46:18,267 --> 00:46:18,907 Speaker 13: to do your job. 890 00:46:19,307 --> 00:46:20,827 Speaker 2: And you'd been in the All Blacks for a while 891 00:46:20,867 --> 00:46:23,067 Speaker 2: when Cody Taylor made his test daybot what was it 892 00:46:23,147 --> 00:46:24,827 Speaker 2: ten years ago? Now, you'd been there for a while. 893 00:46:24,867 --> 00:46:26,827 Speaker 2: A special moment. I think you might have been in 894 00:46:26,907 --> 00:46:29,267 Speaker 2: the reserves with him when he made his testdayble was 895 00:46:29,307 --> 00:46:29,627 Speaker 2: that right? 896 00:46:30,227 --> 00:46:34,987 Speaker 13: Yeah, that sounds better, right, I can't quite recall, but yeah, 897 00:46:35,147 --> 00:46:39,827 Speaker 13: it was really special. Actually, I think you know, obviously, 898 00:46:39,827 --> 00:46:42,787 Speaker 13: I've played a lot with Corey Flunn over the years 899 00:46:42,827 --> 00:46:46,707 Speaker 13: and we're still really good mates. And Corey worked really 900 00:46:46,787 --> 00:46:52,187 Speaker 13: hard on bringing Cody through and not giving him his 901 00:46:52,387 --> 00:46:54,387 Speaker 13: jersey and making him he still work really hard to 902 00:46:55,107 --> 00:46:59,387 Speaker 13: try and go past them. And I saw what Cody 903 00:46:59,467 --> 00:47:02,627 Speaker 13: put in to get there. People forget actually that Cody 904 00:47:02,707 --> 00:47:06,747 Speaker 13: spent two or three years at the Crusaders is number 905 00:47:06,787 --> 00:47:11,387 Speaker 13: two or number three hooker. He was often behind Cody 906 00:47:11,467 --> 00:47:14,507 Speaker 13: and Ben for now, so he had to really do 907 00:47:14,627 --> 00:47:19,987 Speaker 13: his time, you know, probably even I'm sure he may 908 00:47:20,067 --> 00:47:22,467 Speaker 13: have even considered moving away from the Crusaders to get 909 00:47:22,507 --> 00:47:25,387 Speaker 13: his opportunity, but he didn't. He stuck at it, worked 910 00:47:25,427 --> 00:47:29,387 Speaker 13: really hard and eventually, you know, we went past a 911 00:47:29,427 --> 00:47:31,747 Speaker 13: couple of those guys and it's always it's always difficult 912 00:47:31,787 --> 00:47:35,947 Speaker 13: when someone goes past year. But you know, pretty pretty 913 00:47:35,987 --> 00:47:38,667 Speaker 13: amazing what Corey did for I think for Cody, and 914 00:47:39,587 --> 00:47:41,547 Speaker 13: you know that sort of stood him in good steed 915 00:47:41,667 --> 00:47:43,387 Speaker 13: to go on to do what he's done. 916 00:47:43,427 --> 00:47:43,587 Speaker 8: Now. 917 00:47:43,747 --> 00:47:45,827 Speaker 2: That's a pretty special quality, isn't it. Because I'm sure 918 00:47:46,107 --> 00:47:48,147 Speaker 2: you know you've been in teams with guys who can't 919 00:47:48,187 --> 00:47:50,187 Speaker 2: get in the team and as you say, are down 920 00:47:50,227 --> 00:47:52,267 Speaker 2: the pecking order a bit, and that affects them in 921 00:47:52,347 --> 00:47:54,427 Speaker 2: and around the team and personally, for it must have 922 00:47:54,427 --> 00:47:56,827 Speaker 2: been a pretty cool quality and a teammate that even 923 00:47:56,827 --> 00:47:59,747 Speaker 2: if you are number three or you perceive yourself to 924 00:47:59,827 --> 00:48:02,387 Speaker 2: be that, you're still just working hard every day. 925 00:48:03,347 --> 00:48:05,227 Speaker 13: Yeah, and I think it goes both ways. You know, 926 00:48:05,347 --> 00:48:08,147 Speaker 13: that was the environment that we sort of we came through, 927 00:48:09,107 --> 00:48:11,147 Speaker 13: you know, when we were coming up, and we made 928 00:48:11,147 --> 00:48:14,267 Speaker 13: sure that you know, the guys that weren't getting there 929 00:48:14,427 --> 00:48:16,507 Speaker 13: you getting it, getting much of a crack, We're still 930 00:48:16,627 --> 00:48:19,707 Speaker 13: encouraging them and still working with them on on developing 931 00:48:19,787 --> 00:48:22,707 Speaker 13: their game. You know, it's funny, funny enough. It was, 932 00:48:23,027 --> 00:48:25,507 Speaker 13: you know, for myself and Corey that were sort of 933 00:48:25,987 --> 00:48:29,107 Speaker 13: I suppose, you know, number number one and number two 934 00:48:29,187 --> 00:48:32,347 Speaker 13: for a long time, and we had Joe Moody and 935 00:48:32,827 --> 00:48:35,987 Speaker 13: Cody Taylor coming through who we everyone knew. You could 936 00:48:36,027 --> 00:48:39,307 Speaker 13: see how much potential and how good a future they had, 937 00:48:39,387 --> 00:48:42,587 Speaker 13: but you know, sometimes they went getting that crack and 938 00:48:43,907 --> 00:48:47,227 Speaker 13: you know, I suppose we work really hard on those guys, 939 00:48:47,267 --> 00:48:49,107 Speaker 13: and I'm sure that they're working really hard with the 940 00:48:49,187 --> 00:48:51,507 Speaker 13: younger guys coming through as well, passing that bed and 941 00:48:51,587 --> 00:48:54,827 Speaker 13: onto that next crop of talent. And there's certainly some 942 00:48:55,067 --> 00:48:56,947 Speaker 13: some some good ones coming through. 943 00:48:56,987 --> 00:48:59,227 Speaker 2: That's for sure. Terrific insight. Well, thanks so much for 944 00:48:59,307 --> 00:49:01,067 Speaker 2: joining us, mate, I know it'll be a special day 945 00:49:01,147 --> 00:49:03,707 Speaker 2: for everybody who's worn red and black. Thanks for taking 946 00:49:03,787 --> 00:49:05,707 Speaker 2: the time for it yet this afternoon now. 947 00:49:05,827 --> 00:49:09,307 Speaker 13: Absolutely, And you know, obviously Cody is what he's done 948 00:49:09,307 --> 00:49:12,147 Speaker 13: on the field is incredible, but off the field as well, 949 00:49:12,147 --> 00:49:15,387 Speaker 13: he's a great human and a really just just just 950 00:49:15,427 --> 00:49:18,107 Speaker 13: a great news yander in general and someone that I 951 00:49:18,147 --> 00:49:19,187 Speaker 13: think we're really proud of. 952 00:49:19,707 --> 00:49:23,067 Speaker 2: Very well said, thanks, White, White, Crockett there, former teammate 953 00:49:23,867 --> 00:49:27,027 Speaker 2: in Crusaders colors, Canterbury colors and All Blacks colors of 954 00:49:27,947 --> 00:49:30,347 Speaker 2: Cody Taylor. Let's bring in Matt Todd. He played twenty 955 00:49:30,427 --> 00:49:32,307 Speaker 2: five tests for the All Blacks, seventy two games for 956 00:49:32,387 --> 00:49:34,947 Speaker 2: Canterbury and one hundred and forty one for the Crusaders, 957 00:49:34,987 --> 00:49:37,787 Speaker 2: many of those alongside Cody Taylor. He's now, of course 958 00:49:37,827 --> 00:49:41,187 Speaker 2: Matt Todd Crusaders defense coach, so he can offer us 959 00:49:41,227 --> 00:49:44,147 Speaker 2: a pretty unique perspective. Let's start there. Actually, Matt, is 960 00:49:44,187 --> 00:49:47,987 Speaker 2: the Cody Taylor that you now coach any different from 961 00:49:48,067 --> 00:49:50,347 Speaker 2: the Cody Taylor who was a teammate of yours? 962 00:49:51,027 --> 00:49:53,787 Speaker 10: Not too much and obviously as as you get older, yeah, 963 00:49:54,747 --> 00:49:57,067 Speaker 10: mature a little wit. But in terms of his work 964 00:49:57,147 --> 00:49:59,227 Speaker 10: ethic and that that's something that really stands out when 965 00:49:59,227 --> 00:50:02,147 Speaker 10: you talk about Cody. Like a lot of people after 966 00:50:02,187 --> 00:50:05,107 Speaker 10: a long season news you're offseason to kind of way 967 00:50:05,187 --> 00:50:09,227 Speaker 10: from it and relaxed. But Cody, he's that type of boat. 968 00:50:09,267 --> 00:50:12,667 Speaker 10: It's always sort of seeing how he can challenge himself 969 00:50:12,787 --> 00:50:18,787 Speaker 10: and push himself physically, and he's straight into getting himself better. 970 00:50:18,787 --> 00:50:20,427 Speaker 10: And I guess that's why he's had the career he's 971 00:50:20,427 --> 00:50:22,867 Speaker 10: had in the length of a career He's head. 972 00:50:23,187 --> 00:50:25,027 Speaker 2: What was he like when he first came into the 973 00:50:25,307 --> 00:50:28,627 Speaker 2: Canterbury and Crusaders teams that you were a part of. 974 00:50:30,507 --> 00:50:32,867 Speaker 10: I guess just a young, enthusiastic blop like he was 975 00:50:32,907 --> 00:50:38,667 Speaker 10: obviously a great athlete, natural speed and backed himself. You know, 976 00:50:38,747 --> 00:50:40,507 Speaker 10: he wanted to get in there, he wanted to challenge 977 00:50:40,547 --> 00:50:43,987 Speaker 10: himself and you saw, you know, like every time he 978 00:50:44,067 --> 00:50:46,707 Speaker 10: got given the opportunity, he took out he he I 979 00:50:46,787 --> 00:50:49,267 Speaker 10: guess progressed pretty quickly from when he debuted for Kenna 980 00:50:49,507 --> 00:50:51,947 Speaker 10: for the Crusaders to be in the Ilbecks was a 981 00:50:52,027 --> 00:50:57,427 Speaker 10: fairly rapid kind of promotion, but it was just through 982 00:50:57,507 --> 00:51:02,627 Speaker 10: that enthusiasm, excitement and backing himself whenever he got the opportunity. 983 00:51:03,147 --> 00:51:05,307 Speaker 2: What have you seen from him in terms of his 984 00:51:05,507 --> 00:51:07,707 Speaker 2: evolution as as a hooker. 985 00:51:09,147 --> 00:51:11,547 Speaker 10: Yeah, I guess it's just that sort of staying to 986 00:51:11,587 --> 00:51:13,827 Speaker 10: step ahead of how the game's gone. You know, the 987 00:51:14,387 --> 00:51:16,387 Speaker 10: modern day hooker they need to be able to play 988 00:51:16,467 --> 00:51:20,267 Speaker 10: on the edge, play almost as an extra you know, 989 00:51:20,587 --> 00:51:23,107 Speaker 10: back or lucy at times, and he can certainly do that, 990 00:51:23,267 --> 00:51:27,707 Speaker 10: but whilst still having that core part of his game. 991 00:51:27,747 --> 00:51:31,267 Speaker 10: You know, was lying out, throwing his scrummer gens working closer. 992 00:51:31,307 --> 00:51:34,227 Speaker 10: I think that ability to be able to play multiple 993 00:51:34,347 --> 00:51:37,027 Speaker 10: types of game and have the skill set to be 994 00:51:37,107 --> 00:51:41,027 Speaker 10: able to, I guess, adjust to the game plan depending 995 00:51:41,067 --> 00:51:44,907 Speaker 10: on the team, and just that ability to physically continue 996 00:51:44,947 --> 00:51:49,987 Speaker 10: to evolve. And you know there's always younger players commentation 997 00:51:50,147 --> 00:51:53,107 Speaker 10: his position, but the work he pits them physically keeps 998 00:51:53,187 --> 00:51:55,627 Speaker 10: him at the top of his game. And he's always 999 00:51:55,667 --> 00:51:58,267 Speaker 10: seeking those little bits how he can get better, how 1000 00:51:58,347 --> 00:52:01,067 Speaker 10: he can look after his body, how he can get 1001 00:52:01,107 --> 00:52:01,947 Speaker 10: more out of his body. 1002 00:52:02,627 --> 00:52:04,467 Speaker 2: You talked about core roles there, and you often hear 1003 00:52:04,507 --> 00:52:06,427 Speaker 2: them when when you're talking about the hooking position and 1004 00:52:06,507 --> 00:52:08,347 Speaker 2: as you say, throwing into the line out, scrummaging, that 1005 00:52:08,387 --> 00:52:09,907 Speaker 2: sort of thing. I guess you could easily doll that 1006 00:52:09,987 --> 00:52:11,907 Speaker 2: stuff in once you've been around for a while. By 1007 00:52:11,947 --> 00:52:13,227 Speaker 2: the sounds of it, he doesn't do that. 1008 00:52:15,227 --> 00:52:16,187 Speaker 8: Nah like I think. 1009 00:52:17,627 --> 00:52:19,427 Speaker 10: You're never comfortable. You know, you don't have a career 1010 00:52:19,507 --> 00:52:21,507 Speaker 10: like he does, and you rest on your laurels. I 1011 00:52:21,547 --> 00:52:22,627 Speaker 10: think you tick that box off. 1012 00:52:22,707 --> 00:52:23,587 Speaker 5: He's always. 1013 00:52:25,027 --> 00:52:27,547 Speaker 10: Working on or always trying to try and get better. 1014 00:52:27,547 --> 00:52:29,147 Speaker 10: But at the same time, I guess when you've done 1015 00:52:29,147 --> 00:52:30,507 Speaker 10: it for as long as he is, he knows the 1016 00:52:30,587 --> 00:52:33,067 Speaker 10: process that works. So if he doesn't get it right, 1017 00:52:33,507 --> 00:52:36,387 Speaker 10: he knows, you know how to rectify the steps, to 1018 00:52:37,027 --> 00:52:39,987 Speaker 10: make any adjustments and can move on quickly from a mistake, 1019 00:52:40,027 --> 00:52:41,467 Speaker 10: because you're never going to get it right all the time, 1020 00:52:41,547 --> 00:52:45,147 Speaker 10: but it's about making sure you're not making the same mistakes. 1021 00:52:45,187 --> 00:52:46,867 Speaker 10: And when you've done it for as long as he 1022 00:52:46,987 --> 00:52:49,587 Speaker 10: has that ability to have that process to work through 1023 00:52:49,667 --> 00:52:52,027 Speaker 10: it just and now the next one, what. 1024 00:52:52,107 --> 00:52:54,627 Speaker 2: About when younger players have come into the side. You know, 1025 00:52:54,787 --> 00:52:57,947 Speaker 2: with eyes on his position, younger hookers into the environment 1026 00:52:57,987 --> 00:53:00,107 Speaker 2: that he's a part of. What do you see from 1027 00:53:00,227 --> 00:53:01,787 Speaker 2: him in scenarios like that. 1028 00:53:03,507 --> 00:53:05,827 Speaker 10: He's a great mentor for the younger players coming through. 1029 00:53:07,067 --> 00:53:09,987 Speaker 10: You know, he understands he was that that guy one time. 1030 00:53:10,147 --> 00:53:12,987 Speaker 10: And and I think you know, when he was a 1031 00:53:13,027 --> 00:53:15,187 Speaker 10: young guy, he had older hokers like Flynny and etcetera 1032 00:53:15,547 --> 00:53:18,227 Speaker 10: who helped him and welcomed him, but but challenged him. 1033 00:53:19,387 --> 00:53:20,707 Speaker 10: But they helped him get the best out of it. 1034 00:53:20,707 --> 00:53:22,507 Speaker 10: And I think he's the same. You know, he welcomes 1035 00:53:22,587 --> 00:53:24,827 Speaker 10: any new hooker in any young ho because he helps them. 1036 00:53:25,867 --> 00:53:28,867 Speaker 10: But he also you know, makes it clear that he's 1037 00:53:28,947 --> 00:53:30,507 Speaker 10: the standard they need to get to and he will 1038 00:53:30,547 --> 00:53:32,827 Speaker 10: help them. But he's not going to give give up 1039 00:53:32,827 --> 00:53:35,467 Speaker 10: his jersey. You know, you're gonna have to take it 1040 00:53:35,507 --> 00:53:36,387 Speaker 10: off from if you want to get it. 1041 00:53:36,627 --> 00:53:39,907 Speaker 2: And do you see from the younger players in your environment, 1042 00:53:39,987 --> 00:53:42,227 Speaker 2: not just hookers, but all players. Do you see them 1043 00:53:42,267 --> 00:53:45,427 Speaker 2: looking at Cody Taylor and realizing what you need to 1044 00:53:45,507 --> 00:53:48,027 Speaker 2: do and what you need to be to become not 1045 00:53:48,187 --> 00:53:50,427 Speaker 2: just an All Black, a good all blacker, one hundred 1046 00:53:50,467 --> 00:53:51,067 Speaker 2: test all Black. 1047 00:53:52,307 --> 00:53:55,347 Speaker 10: Yeah, certainly, you know, and you'd be silly not to. 1048 00:53:55,467 --> 00:53:57,107 Speaker 10: You know, he lives He's type of like that lives 1049 00:53:57,107 --> 00:53:59,027 Speaker 10: at every day. It's not a sort of sometimes thing. 1050 00:53:59,107 --> 00:54:01,827 Speaker 10: And you know, I guess that's why he's parting one 1051 00:54:01,867 --> 00:54:03,627 Speaker 10: hundred tests and still playing at the level that he 1052 00:54:03,787 --> 00:54:06,147 Speaker 10: is and still got plenty of footy in front of 1053 00:54:06,187 --> 00:54:07,987 Speaker 10: him because he lives it all the time. And yet 1054 00:54:08,027 --> 00:54:10,507 Speaker 10: you see, you know, he's in there on his days 1055 00:54:10,547 --> 00:54:14,067 Speaker 10: off doing extras. He's looking after his body, he's making 1056 00:54:14,147 --> 00:54:17,147 Speaker 10: sure he's he knows his opposition. Every week, he's done 1057 00:54:17,187 --> 00:54:20,827 Speaker 10: the homework around that. You know, he tests himself physically 1058 00:54:20,907 --> 00:54:22,587 Speaker 10: during the week, so he heads into the game, and 1059 00:54:22,627 --> 00:54:25,427 Speaker 10: he's confident that he's where he needs to be physically, 1060 00:54:25,467 --> 00:54:27,947 Speaker 10: So all those little things, you know, it's nutrition, all 1061 00:54:27,947 --> 00:54:30,387 Speaker 10: the little stuff that stacks up. You know, he's world 1062 00:54:30,427 --> 00:54:33,387 Speaker 10: classed in all those areas. And for young players coming 1063 00:54:33,467 --> 00:54:36,667 Speaker 10: into you know, where it's crusades, all the all blacks. 1064 00:54:36,987 --> 00:54:39,827 Speaker 10: You just see what he does and how diligent is 1065 00:54:39,867 --> 00:54:42,787 Speaker 10: with all that little stuff, and you soon, you know, 1066 00:54:42,907 --> 00:54:45,667 Speaker 10: you soon learn what's required. But it's not easy, and 1067 00:54:45,747 --> 00:54:47,027 Speaker 10: it's one thing to see it, but it's to be 1068 00:54:47,027 --> 00:54:49,107 Speaker 10: about to actually live it as another thing. 1069 00:54:49,787 --> 00:54:51,947 Speaker 2: And you have moved into coaching. Is that a pass 1070 00:54:52,027 --> 00:54:53,787 Speaker 2: you could see Cody Taylor taking. 1071 00:54:55,587 --> 00:54:58,027 Speaker 10: Yeah, he's certainly good. You know, he's one of those 1072 00:54:58,027 --> 00:55:00,667 Speaker 10: guys as well that he's always looking for extra stuff 1073 00:55:00,667 --> 00:55:05,027 Speaker 10: outside of the game to I guess mentally refresh him. 1074 00:55:05,027 --> 00:55:07,027 Speaker 10: And he's always got little sided tests in that. So 1075 00:55:07,427 --> 00:55:09,387 Speaker 10: wherever he goes down the coaching path, I'm not sure, 1076 00:55:09,427 --> 00:55:12,587 Speaker 10: but he's certainly got the knowledge to to do it, 1077 00:55:12,707 --> 00:55:15,547 Speaker 10: and he relates well to the other players, so he could. 1078 00:55:15,667 --> 00:55:18,827 Speaker 10: But he's got a lot of I guess varied interests 1079 00:55:18,907 --> 00:55:21,507 Speaker 10: in stuff away from the game that perhaps he goes 1080 00:55:21,547 --> 00:55:22,547 Speaker 10: that road I'm not too sure. 1081 00:55:22,707 --> 00:55:24,627 Speaker 2: All right, Matt Well, I appreciate you taking the time 1082 00:55:24,707 --> 00:55:27,027 Speaker 2: to pay tribute to one of your former teammates and 1083 00:55:27,067 --> 00:55:29,267 Speaker 2: now one of your players as a Crusader's defense coach. 1084 00:55:29,547 --> 00:55:31,347 Speaker 2: Thanks very much for your time, mate. That's Matt Todd 1085 00:55:31,987 --> 00:55:36,867 Speaker 2: and before Matt White Crockett paying tribute to Cody Taylor. 1086 00:55:37,227 --> 00:55:41,267 Speaker 2: When you think of great All Blacks hookers, it is 1087 00:55:41,387 --> 00:55:45,707 Speaker 2: quite a crowded field. Kevin me A Lummel, Sean Fitzpatrick, 1088 00:55:45,867 --> 00:55:51,987 Speaker 2: Dane Coles, Andy Dalton, Cody Taylor absolutely belongs in that conversation. 1089 00:55:53,627 --> 00:55:56,867 Speaker 2: The constant themes you hear about Cody Taylor are around 1090 00:55:57,427 --> 00:56:02,227 Speaker 2: his work, ethic and just how much playing rugby means 1091 00:56:02,307 --> 00:56:05,067 Speaker 2: to him, whether it's for Canterbury, the Crusaders or the 1092 00:56:05,107 --> 00:56:09,067 Speaker 2: All Blacks. He apits amises what it means to be 1093 00:56:09,187 --> 00:56:12,187 Speaker 2: part of something that is bigger than you. The jersey 1094 00:56:12,307 --> 00:56:14,987 Speaker 2: has never been bigger than Cody Taylor. The team has 1095 00:56:15,107 --> 00:56:17,587 Speaker 2: never been bigger, The game has never been bigger than 1096 00:56:17,627 --> 00:56:21,867 Speaker 2: Cody Taylor. But he's enhanced the jersey, enhanced his teams, 1097 00:56:22,507 --> 00:56:25,587 Speaker 2: and really done the game of rugby proud. He models 1098 00:56:25,627 --> 00:56:28,507 Speaker 2: the way for anyone who joins the teams that he 1099 00:56:28,667 --> 00:56:30,467 Speaker 2: is in. And you heard that from Matt Todd and 1100 00:56:30,587 --> 00:56:33,347 Speaker 2: from White Crockett. They look at Cody Taylor and they 1101 00:56:33,467 --> 00:56:35,347 Speaker 2: understand what it means to be an All Black, to 1102 00:56:35,387 --> 00:56:38,227 Speaker 2: be a crusader, to be a Canterbury player. He's a 1103 00:56:38,387 --> 00:56:40,627 Speaker 2: leader in the size that he's a part of. 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Phil Quiney with us inside the 1141 00:58:49,987 --> 00:58:53,907 Speaker 2: next ten minutes. But Argentina and the All Blacks meet 1142 00:58:53,947 --> 00:58:57,027 Speaker 2: tomorrow morning in their second Rugby Championship Test of twenty 1143 00:58:57,107 --> 00:58:57,667 Speaker 2: twenty five. 1144 00:58:58,387 --> 00:59:00,907 Speaker 16: The All Blacks go back to number one in the 1145 00:59:00,987 --> 00:59:05,107 Speaker 16: world for the first time since November twenty twenty one. 1146 00:59:05,427 --> 00:59:09,947 Speaker 2: Forty one four six tries to three. Yeah, a pretty 1147 00:59:09,987 --> 00:59:13,387 Speaker 2: comprehensive win, well eventually anyway, from the All Blacks nine 1148 00:59:13,387 --> 00:59:16,187 Speaker 2: o'clock tomorrow morning, catch the call with Elliot Smith and 1149 00:59:16,427 --> 00:59:22,547 Speaker 2: and Strawn. Let's bring in Argentinian rugby journalist Zuko Zuka 1150 00:59:22,787 --> 00:59:25,827 Speaker 2: Conti from ESPN. So great to get the chance to chat. 1151 00:59:26,347 --> 00:59:29,267 Speaker 2: The Pumas got back to within seven points of the 1152 00:59:29,347 --> 00:59:32,507 Speaker 2: All Blacks last week. Did you sense they might be 1153 00:59:32,587 --> 00:59:35,587 Speaker 2: about to claim their first win? That all lusive first 1154 00:59:35,627 --> 00:59:38,507 Speaker 2: win over the All Blacks on Argentinian soil? 1155 00:59:39,267 --> 00:59:42,507 Speaker 17: Him ed, how are you hopefully for us? Hopefully for 1156 00:59:42,747 --> 00:59:48,667 Speaker 17: us that when it's coming. It was like yesterday when 1157 00:59:48,907 --> 00:59:55,467 Speaker 17: Parramatta then grassearch Wellington. But all you Argentinian rugby fans 1158 00:59:55,587 --> 01:00:00,747 Speaker 17: are waiting for our first home soil victory. I think 1159 01:00:00,827 --> 01:00:04,627 Speaker 17: it's gonna be very tough because I think that the 1160 01:00:04,747 --> 01:00:09,187 Speaker 17: oil Blacks Oilways, from one week to the other improve 1161 01:00:09,227 --> 01:00:13,547 Speaker 17: a loge. Sometimes in the same match they improve a loge, 1162 01:00:14,747 --> 01:00:18,987 Speaker 17: and of course we are willing that Argentina is going 1163 01:00:19,027 --> 01:00:23,867 Speaker 17: to improve to make some I think that growns as 1164 01:00:23,907 --> 01:00:27,907 Speaker 17: a team in some specific points that are going to 1165 01:00:27,987 --> 01:00:29,387 Speaker 17: be vital tomorrow. 1166 01:00:29,987 --> 01:00:33,507 Speaker 2: What are those specific areas? So where do the mind 1167 01:00:33,547 --> 01:00:36,507 Speaker 2: improvements need to come? Where would you like to see 1168 01:00:36,827 --> 01:00:39,227 Speaker 2: the improvements come from Argentina. 1169 01:00:39,787 --> 01:00:43,867 Speaker 17: From Argentina, I think that it's very important the mindset 1170 01:00:44,107 --> 01:00:52,107 Speaker 17: because specifically in the first half, because last year Rugby Championship, 1171 01:00:52,227 --> 01:00:57,027 Speaker 17: the three victories came after a comeback because of the 1172 01:00:57,947 --> 01:01:02,827 Speaker 17: of going I don't know, but fourteen twenty one points down. 1173 01:01:04,227 --> 01:01:09,787 Speaker 17: Last week in Cordova, it was another match where Argentina 1174 01:01:09,867 --> 01:01:16,587 Speaker 17: start losing and then the team shows that encouraged to 1175 01:01:16,787 --> 01:01:21,587 Speaker 17: go back and go straight into the into the game. 1176 01:01:22,027 --> 01:01:25,707 Speaker 17: But of course the mindset to be in the game 1177 01:01:26,227 --> 01:01:31,987 Speaker 17: since the kickoff till the end. And then of course 1178 01:01:32,107 --> 01:01:35,827 Speaker 17: the defense of the line and the mall, because last 1179 01:01:35,907 --> 01:01:42,627 Speaker 17: week three tries came came because of the of the 1180 01:01:42,747 --> 01:01:45,387 Speaker 17: line of mall of the All Blacks. Of course, I 1181 01:01:45,507 --> 01:01:48,827 Speaker 17: want to be to watch an improvement there. 1182 01:01:50,067 --> 01:01:52,707 Speaker 2: Just the two changes to the Argentina side. Did you 1183 01:01:52,827 --> 01:01:55,827 Speaker 2: expect more changes or did that feel about right? 1184 01:01:57,187 --> 01:01:57,227 Speaker 5: No? 1185 01:01:57,387 --> 01:02:01,987 Speaker 17: I think that it's it's right. Probably I would like 1186 01:02:02,147 --> 01:02:06,267 Speaker 17: to see Gideo Petty as a starter. I get surprised 1187 01:02:06,427 --> 01:02:12,667 Speaker 17: to Giddo being the bench again, but Hong on Salez 1188 01:02:12,827 --> 01:02:15,387 Speaker 17: it's now. I think that it's one of the best 1189 01:02:15,467 --> 01:02:19,707 Speaker 17: players in the team. I get surprised last week when 1190 01:02:19,827 --> 01:02:23,267 Speaker 17: he was benched and now as a starter. I think 1191 01:02:23,347 --> 01:02:26,227 Speaker 17: that in the line out, for example, it's going to 1192 01:02:26,307 --> 01:02:34,147 Speaker 17: be so important not to win our own balls, of course, 1193 01:02:34,227 --> 01:02:39,027 Speaker 17: to try to steal some All Blacks balls. And then 1194 01:02:39,547 --> 01:02:42,827 Speaker 17: of course I think that the change of of the 1195 01:02:43,307 --> 01:02:47,427 Speaker 17: of Matteo Carredras. I think that it's good is going 1196 01:02:47,547 --> 01:02:52,507 Speaker 17: to maintain in the team. But the coach choose to 1197 01:02:52,747 --> 01:02:56,467 Speaker 17: delegate as a starter, and Matteo Carreda's too, so I 1198 01:02:56,787 --> 01:02:59,227 Speaker 17: think that that is going to be a point where 1199 01:02:59,387 --> 01:03:02,467 Speaker 17: the All Blacks are going to attack because it's grow 1200 01:03:02,667 --> 01:03:06,907 Speaker 17: in all the kicking game, it's so important in the 1201 01:03:07,227 --> 01:03:10,867 Speaker 17: air battle, and without its growth, I think that the 1202 01:03:10,947 --> 01:03:14,227 Speaker 17: All Blacks are going to use a lot the the 1203 01:03:14,387 --> 01:03:18,467 Speaker 17: kicking game, the kicking strategy, strategy where are building buried, 1204 01:03:18,547 --> 01:03:21,707 Speaker 17: for example. I think it's a master a mastermind. 1205 01:03:22,387 --> 01:03:25,467 Speaker 2: What did you think of the All Blacks performance last week? 1206 01:03:28,187 --> 01:03:30,027 Speaker 18: It was not fantastic. 1207 01:03:30,547 --> 01:03:30,987 Speaker 1: It was. 1208 01:03:32,467 --> 01:03:35,347 Speaker 18: In Argentina, we call it like pragmatic. It was like 1209 01:03:36,547 --> 01:03:37,387 Speaker 18: a victory word. 1210 01:03:37,427 --> 01:03:40,347 Speaker 17: The All Blacks show you the class that the team 1211 01:03:40,427 --> 01:03:44,227 Speaker 17: has in the in terms of consistency, in terms of 1212 01:03:45,507 --> 01:03:50,387 Speaker 17: being a solid team in the moments that the game needs, 1213 01:03:50,747 --> 01:03:53,507 Speaker 17: a solid mind in the final minutes of the in 1214 01:03:53,627 --> 01:03:56,227 Speaker 17: the start, in the final minutes of the first half, 1215 01:03:56,667 --> 01:03:59,387 Speaker 17: in the final minutes of the of the game. I 1216 01:03:59,467 --> 01:04:03,427 Speaker 17: don't know, but probably when you have an advantage of 1217 01:04:03,707 --> 01:04:07,307 Speaker 17: twenty twenty five points, your mind relax a little bit, 1218 01:04:07,507 --> 01:04:12,147 Speaker 17: so Argentina come back. But when Argentina put near seven points, 1219 01:04:12,467 --> 01:04:17,267 Speaker 17: the Oil Blacks the push the celebrator again and they 1220 01:04:17,347 --> 01:04:19,467 Speaker 17: go back again with his game. 1221 01:04:19,587 --> 01:04:22,427 Speaker 18: They don't choose to go to the polls. 1222 01:04:22,587 --> 01:04:27,387 Speaker 17: They go to the line out because they watch and 1223 01:04:28,307 --> 01:04:31,787 Speaker 17: I think that in a good decision, that there is 1224 01:04:31,827 --> 01:04:33,147 Speaker 17: a point to exploit. 1225 01:04:33,587 --> 01:04:34,707 Speaker 18: So I don't know. 1226 01:04:35,387 --> 01:04:38,667 Speaker 17: We always hear in Argentina admire the oil Blacks game. 1227 01:04:39,147 --> 01:04:43,907 Speaker 17: We probably will learn a lot about playing against the 1228 01:04:43,987 --> 01:04:47,427 Speaker 17: Oil Blacks. And for example, today I make an interview 1229 01:04:47,867 --> 01:04:51,187 Speaker 17: with Pablo Mattela that you know a lot because Pablo 1230 01:04:51,227 --> 01:04:54,867 Speaker 17: plays there in chryst And one season with the Crusaders, 1231 01:04:55,307 --> 01:04:56,187 Speaker 17: and Pablo. 1232 01:04:55,987 --> 01:04:59,947 Speaker 2: Told me that in the last game he'll. 1233 01:04:59,867 --> 01:05:04,067 Speaker 17: Learned more about rugby and the Oil Blacks, that in 1234 01:05:04,267 --> 01:05:07,987 Speaker 17: the other eighteen that they play against the All Blacks. 1235 01:05:09,187 --> 01:05:12,947 Speaker 17: And because of that, I'm willing that tomorrow the Argentina 1236 01:05:13,067 --> 01:05:14,587 Speaker 17: team is it's going to prove a lot. 1237 01:05:14,867 --> 01:05:19,467 Speaker 2: Wow, that is great insight from Pablo Mateta. So Parametta, 1238 01:05:19,947 --> 01:05:24,027 Speaker 2: christ Church, Wellington? Are we going to add buenas Aires? 1239 01:05:24,147 --> 01:05:25,987 Speaker 2: Is it finally going to happen? Zuka? 1240 01:05:27,907 --> 01:05:29,747 Speaker 18: Hopefully? I don't know. It's always a dream. 1241 01:05:29,827 --> 01:05:33,627 Speaker 17: I remember being in Paramatta going in the car to 1242 01:05:33,747 --> 01:05:38,507 Speaker 17: the to the stadium and some friends ride me via 1243 01:05:38,867 --> 01:05:39,347 Speaker 17: what's up? 1244 01:05:40,027 --> 01:05:40,707 Speaker 18: How is the team? 1245 01:05:40,947 --> 01:05:44,627 Speaker 17: And we with Argentina with the Pumas, we never have 1246 01:05:45,307 --> 01:05:48,067 Speaker 17: a clear view about how is the team? The team 1247 01:05:48,907 --> 01:05:53,587 Speaker 17: Probably when the game start we take there the real 1248 01:05:53,707 --> 01:05:56,467 Speaker 17: sensation about how is the team. I think that if 1249 01:05:56,587 --> 01:06:00,427 Speaker 17: Argentina it's good in the contact, I think that the 1250 01:06:00,507 --> 01:06:03,307 Speaker 17: All Bucks tomorrow, for example, they are going to start 1251 01:06:03,707 --> 01:06:08,627 Speaker 17: playing straight, going boy to body to body. So if 1252 01:06:08,707 --> 01:06:13,867 Speaker 17: Argentina it's physical physically there in the in the battle, 1253 01:06:14,747 --> 01:06:16,707 Speaker 17: probably we are going to be near in the match. 1254 01:06:16,867 --> 01:06:22,627 Speaker 17: And then it's some deitiles being good in the with 1255 01:06:22,787 --> 01:06:26,747 Speaker 17: the kicking, with the points. I remember the game is 1256 01:06:26,867 --> 01:06:31,507 Speaker 17: scriter a million of Ailie with his right foot in paramatta, 1257 01:06:31,587 --> 01:06:32,467 Speaker 17: Nico Santez. 1258 01:06:32,867 --> 01:06:35,547 Speaker 18: We need an inspirational. 1259 01:06:35,267 --> 01:06:42,347 Speaker 17: Game of the kicker, good, good performance of the important 1260 01:06:42,427 --> 01:06:46,347 Speaker 17: players and always a little bit of good luck. 1261 01:06:48,267 --> 01:06:50,747 Speaker 2: Wonderful to talk with you again, Zuka, thank you for 1262 01:06:50,867 --> 01:06:52,267 Speaker 2: joining us. Enjoy the game. 1263 01:06:53,387 --> 01:06:55,507 Speaker 18: Thank you very much, and you enjoyed the game too. 1264 01:06:56,427 --> 01:06:59,587 Speaker 17: It's always a pleasure and a priverledge for us being 1265 01:06:59,787 --> 01:07:00,787 Speaker 17: playing against. 1266 01:07:00,467 --> 01:07:02,627 Speaker 2: The All Blacks. Wonderful stuff. Soka, thanks so much in 1267 01:07:02,667 --> 01:07:06,507 Speaker 2: the Zuka CONTI there out of esping in Argentina. Head 1268 01:07:06,507 --> 01:07:08,907 Speaker 2: of tomorrow second Rugby Championship test for commentary here on 1269 01:07:08,987 --> 01:07:11,907 Speaker 2: News Talks. EDB built up from around ten to nine. 1270 01:07:11,947 --> 01:07:14,987 Speaker 2: Kickoff at ten past nine with Elliott Smith and and 1271 01:07:15,227 --> 01:07:18,547 Speaker 2: Strawn bang on twenty five to two weekends for it. 1272 01:07:19,307 --> 01:07:21,467 Speaker 2: Taranaki put the ran fully shield on the line. This 1273 01:07:21,587 --> 01:07:24,547 Speaker 2: afternoon they welcome White Cuttle to New Plymouth. Kickoff at 1274 01:07:24,587 --> 01:07:27,347 Speaker 2: five past two. So far this sheit the fended off 1275 01:07:27,387 --> 01:07:30,827 Speaker 2: challenges from King Country, from Thames Valley and from Northland. 1276 01:07:31,227 --> 01:07:33,707 Speaker 7: He makes a beautiful break through up to the twenty two. 1277 01:07:33,747 --> 01:07:36,187 Speaker 19: He's got a man inside. That's just Jacob and Josh. 1278 01:07:36,267 --> 01:07:38,667 Speaker 19: Jacob will Square, beautifully done. 1279 01:07:38,827 --> 01:07:42,787 Speaker 7: Jacob rather mina bookie. Nadkins just put the foot down. 1280 01:07:42,947 --> 01:07:44,587 Speaker 2: That is the voice of Phil Quinney of course, to 1281 01:07:44,667 --> 01:07:46,827 Speaker 2: alongside Ken Mahari has the call for you on Gold 1282 01:07:46,867 --> 01:07:50,187 Speaker 2: Sport and iHeartRadio. Phil give us a weather report first 1283 01:07:50,227 --> 01:07:51,067 Speaker 2: of all, and good. 1284 01:07:50,947 --> 01:07:54,787 Speaker 7: Afternoon, afternoon, Piey. I can report that the voices are 1285 01:07:54,827 --> 01:07:56,827 Speaker 7: hell of a lot better today than it was three 1286 01:07:56,907 --> 01:07:59,947 Speaker 7: weeks ago when I just listened back to that. My goodness, 1287 01:08:00,387 --> 01:08:03,227 Speaker 7: we're in the middle of a dig flu bug, but 1288 01:08:03,587 --> 01:08:06,147 Speaker 7: managed to get through that one. The weather is magnificent, 1289 01:08:06,667 --> 01:08:09,587 Speaker 7: a beautiful day here, not a breath of wind, blue sky, 1290 01:08:09,747 --> 01:08:13,827 Speaker 7: the mountain looking like the best mountain of the world. 1291 01:08:13,947 --> 01:08:16,227 Speaker 7: What a site, what a place we've got here pining. 1292 01:08:16,267 --> 01:08:19,307 Speaker 7: It really is something spectacular on the daylight today, clouding 1293 01:08:19,387 --> 01:08:21,347 Speaker 7: over just a little bit around the mountain, but otherwise 1294 01:08:21,627 --> 01:08:25,347 Speaker 7: a beautiful day here and the conditions absolutely perfect for 1295 01:08:25,427 --> 01:08:29,547 Speaker 7: what should be a very very interesting challenge from White Kado. 1296 01:08:29,747 --> 01:08:32,867 Speaker 7: They've been a boogey team for Tallanlaukey over the years. 1297 01:08:32,947 --> 01:08:35,947 Speaker 7: Play the number of times those bloody cow bells have 1298 01:08:36,027 --> 01:08:39,787 Speaker 7: gone home with the shield, it's been it's been an 1299 01:08:39,907 --> 01:08:42,907 Speaker 7: unpleasant experience many times. And of course last time they 1300 01:08:43,027 --> 01:08:47,107 Speaker 7: met why Cando Tananauky fifteen fourteen in the quarter final 1301 01:08:47,147 --> 01:08:50,467 Speaker 7: of the MPC last year. So Toanerakee certainly are well 1302 01:08:50,507 --> 01:08:54,027 Speaker 7: aware of the threat that the mulus bring to stadium 1303 01:08:54,067 --> 01:08:55,107 Speaker 7: Tllanhakey this afternoon. 1304 01:08:55,427 --> 01:08:57,827 Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the ambrom Blacks in twenty 1305 01:08:57,907 --> 01:09:01,747 Speaker 2: twenty five three ones from three the Northland Shield Defense 1306 01:09:01,787 --> 01:09:03,987 Speaker 2: and then forty six twenty four away at North Harbor 1307 01:09:04,067 --> 01:09:06,947 Speaker 2: and then fifty on Auckland last week at Eden Park. 1308 01:09:07,027 --> 01:09:09,907 Speaker 2: What's been most impressive to you about their start to 1309 01:09:09,987 --> 01:09:10,867 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. 1310 01:09:11,227 --> 01:09:14,707 Speaker 7: The most impressive thing is that Barnsey and the boys 1311 01:09:14,867 --> 01:09:17,867 Speaker 7: repaid all of us that have suffered at Eden Park 1312 01:09:18,027 --> 01:09:20,667 Speaker 7: through the nineteen eighties and early nineties until we took 1313 01:09:20,707 --> 01:09:23,267 Speaker 7: the shield off them in ninety six. And thank you 1314 01:09:23,427 --> 01:09:26,627 Speaker 7: Barnsey and the boys for putting fifty points on Auckland 1315 01:09:26,747 --> 01:09:29,307 Speaker 7: last week. That was phenomenal, wasn't it. But that's payback 1316 01:09:29,387 --> 01:09:31,187 Speaker 7: for all those years we've gone up and played the 1317 01:09:31,267 --> 01:09:34,107 Speaker 7: All Blacks and been spanked. But it's just been a 1318 01:09:34,267 --> 01:09:38,667 Speaker 7: very very impressive all round performance. Forwards and backs combining 1319 01:09:39,027 --> 01:09:41,427 Speaker 7: really well. They're starting to really come into their milk, 1320 01:09:41,427 --> 01:09:44,267 Speaker 7: as we say here in Dairy Country. Three matches in 1321 01:09:44,587 --> 01:09:48,547 Speaker 7: really getting that cohesive flow. That was an outstanding performance 1322 01:09:49,147 --> 01:09:52,507 Speaker 7: last week against Auckland. Josh Jacob and Logan Crowley really 1323 01:09:52,867 --> 01:09:56,947 Speaker 7: combining nicely. Jacob's just developing into a fantastic number ten. 1324 01:09:57,547 --> 01:09:59,707 Speaker 7: And when you think, I mean people talk about the 1325 01:09:59,827 --> 01:10:02,147 Speaker 7: value of the MPC pinety and I know you talk 1326 01:10:02,187 --> 01:10:04,427 Speaker 7: about it all the time, the grassroots of the game, 1327 01:10:04,507 --> 01:10:06,707 Speaker 7: the shop window of the game, the development of of 1328 01:10:06,867 --> 01:10:09,907 Speaker 7: players through to All Black level. Less than two seasons ago, 1329 01:10:10,027 --> 01:10:13,707 Speaker 7: Piney Josh Jacob was in the development side for Tallaennachen. 1330 01:10:13,747 --> 01:10:15,987 Speaker 7: He was playing in a very average Englewood Club team 1331 01:10:16,307 --> 01:10:18,987 Speaker 7: and now he's in the top four in the country 1332 01:10:18,987 --> 01:10:22,147 Speaker 7: in the number ten Jersey without a doubt, so he's 1333 01:10:22,187 --> 01:10:25,667 Speaker 7: been extremely impressive. The Fords have been dominant in just 1334 01:10:25,707 --> 01:10:28,627 Speaker 7: about every match. They've played a very solid unit, that 1335 01:10:28,867 --> 01:10:32,587 Speaker 7: lovely Ford lineout drive they get going with Bradley Slater 1336 01:10:32,667 --> 01:10:34,667 Speaker 7: on the end of a number of tries already the season. 1337 01:10:34,947 --> 01:10:37,587 Speaker 7: Guys like Michael Loft have been impressive from seven and 1338 01:10:37,947 --> 01:10:40,467 Speaker 7: so to was Bowshoe at eight. They're struggling in locks. 1339 01:10:40,507 --> 01:10:43,987 Speaker 7: They've obviously lost Josh Lord to Argentina for the All Blacks. 1340 01:10:45,347 --> 01:10:47,667 Speaker 7: Fitty Sara is out injured, so they're a little bit 1341 01:10:47,787 --> 01:10:50,467 Speaker 7: light in that area, but they're making up for it 1342 01:10:50,587 --> 01:10:53,667 Speaker 7: next man up mentality, and they've certainly stepped up and 1343 01:10:53,827 --> 01:10:57,547 Speaker 7: played a wonderful attacking brand of rugby. If it's on, 1344 01:10:57,707 --> 01:10:59,867 Speaker 7: it's on, doesn't matter whether you're on your own goal 1345 01:10:59,947 --> 01:11:02,747 Speaker 7: line or on their twenty two. They love to attack 1346 01:11:02,907 --> 01:11:06,107 Speaker 7: the ball from everywhere and speech is like rada matabuki. 1347 01:11:06,147 --> 01:11:08,387 Speaker 7: Nick can fall back and take a solemony on the wing. 1348 01:11:08,667 --> 01:11:10,627 Speaker 7: Have a really made advantage of that as well. It's 1349 01:11:10,627 --> 01:11:12,827 Speaker 7: been a very impressive start to the season. They are 1350 01:11:12,907 --> 01:11:15,387 Speaker 7: one of the form sides, unbeaten three from three and 1351 01:11:15,467 --> 01:11:17,947 Speaker 7: I'd certainly be hoping to go four from four, keep 1352 01:11:18,027 --> 01:11:20,347 Speaker 7: the shield for at least another week or two. And 1353 01:11:20,547 --> 01:11:23,547 Speaker 7: also the Ryan Wheler Memorial Trophy that these two Chiefs 1354 01:11:23,627 --> 01:11:26,787 Speaker 7: franchises of course play for, so that local derby element 1355 01:11:26,867 --> 01:11:29,347 Speaker 7: to it as well. It's exciting afternoon, Jason. 1356 01:11:29,587 --> 01:11:32,307 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Phil, I'm getting goosebumps even listening to you talk 1357 01:11:32,347 --> 01:11:33,947 Speaker 2: about it. And I've got no skin in this game 1358 01:11:33,987 --> 01:11:36,147 Speaker 2: at all. Just on way Cuttor, you look at their 1359 01:11:36,227 --> 01:11:37,987 Speaker 2: back line, I mean, Aaron Crude and the old man 1360 01:11:38,067 --> 01:11:40,907 Speaker 2: of the team, but still running around pretty well at ten. 1361 01:11:40,947 --> 01:11:45,587 Speaker 2: Then Gideon Rampling, Baalen Sullivan, Ollie mathis this rising star 1362 01:11:45,827 --> 01:11:49,147 Speaker 2: Josh Morby at fallback. It's a pretty decent whit Kaddow team, 1363 01:11:49,227 --> 01:11:49,507 Speaker 2: isn't it. 1364 01:11:49,747 --> 01:11:49,867 Speaker 20: Oh? 1365 01:11:49,987 --> 01:11:54,787 Speaker 7: Absolutely, And certainly I know Neil Barnes is not taking 1366 01:11:54,827 --> 01:11:56,867 Speaker 7: them lightly at all. As I've said right at the start, 1367 01:11:56,987 --> 01:12:00,427 Speaker 7: this why Kadow Union has a habit of spoiling our party. 1368 01:12:01,027 --> 01:12:02,707 Speaker 7: They are a very good back line. You start to 1369 01:12:02,787 --> 01:12:04,907 Speaker 7: wonder whether that's Aaron Crude or his son, don't you. 1370 01:12:05,227 --> 01:12:07,947 Speaker 7: I mean, he's been around for so long, but it's 1371 01:12:07,987 --> 01:12:10,267 Speaker 7: the man himself, and of course Limus off Wanger on 1372 01:12:10,387 --> 01:12:12,467 Speaker 7: the bench as well, so a ton of experience, certainly 1373 01:12:12,507 --> 01:12:14,547 Speaker 7: in the back line, not so much in the forward pack. 1374 01:12:14,907 --> 01:12:18,227 Speaker 7: They'll be tested today, but they've got some real talent 1375 01:12:18,307 --> 01:12:20,187 Speaker 7: there as well, with the likes of Jerome Brown at 1376 01:12:20,227 --> 01:12:23,307 Speaker 7: eight so I follow at six and Jacobson at seven, 1377 01:12:23,627 --> 01:12:26,187 Speaker 7: a big Hamilton burr at lock. So they might be 1378 01:12:26,267 --> 01:12:28,747 Speaker 7: down a little bit on NPC experience, but they're not 1379 01:12:28,827 --> 01:12:31,947 Speaker 7: down on rugby experience or rugby intelligence, and I think 1380 01:12:31,987 --> 01:12:34,507 Speaker 7: you'll see a lot of that today. How they'll play 1381 01:12:34,547 --> 01:12:38,507 Speaker 7: the game. They've had two close winds one point victories 1382 01:12:38,507 --> 01:12:40,587 Speaker 7: and a loss, so they haven't got away to the 1383 01:12:40,627 --> 01:12:43,627 Speaker 7: best of starts way Kato, but again they can if 1384 01:12:43,627 --> 01:12:45,067 Speaker 7: they turn it on it's going to be a hell 1385 01:12:45,067 --> 01:12:46,587 Speaker 7: of a game this afternoon. I think we'll see a 1386 01:12:46,707 --> 01:12:50,227 Speaker 7: very exciting brand of rugby. The conditions absolutely will lend 1387 01:12:50,267 --> 01:12:52,267 Speaker 7: itself to that. As I said, not a breath of wind, 1388 01:12:52,347 --> 01:12:55,667 Speaker 7: perfect ground conditions and much the same surface as the 1389 01:12:55,667 --> 01:12:57,547 Speaker 7: Waycado boys that used to of course at Hamilton with 1390 01:12:57,587 --> 01:13:01,027 Speaker 7: that synthetic mix. So why Cano a little bit down 1391 01:13:01,067 --> 01:13:03,987 Speaker 7: on power maybe, but won't be down on motivation, that's 1392 01:13:04,027 --> 01:13:04,347 Speaker 7: for sure. 1393 01:13:04,827 --> 01:13:08,947 Speaker 2: And Studium Taranaki it's all, doesn't it all been revamped, refreshed, redone. 1394 01:13:08,987 --> 01:13:09,547 Speaker 2: How's it looking? 1395 01:13:09,867 --> 01:13:12,827 Speaker 7: Oh looks great, mate. That mean the all new grands down. 1396 01:13:12,867 --> 01:13:16,387 Speaker 7: Of course, the old grandstand was earthquake written off, and 1397 01:13:16,707 --> 01:13:19,587 Speaker 7: some five years later I think we now look out 1398 01:13:19,707 --> 01:13:22,067 Speaker 7: at what is a magnificent new stand. It's a little 1399 01:13:22,067 --> 01:13:25,067 Speaker 7: bit closer to the ground as well, by a few meters, 1400 01:13:25,147 --> 01:13:27,307 Speaker 7: not that you know, but it's a little bit more intimate, 1401 01:13:27,347 --> 01:13:30,547 Speaker 7: I guess from that perspective. The corporate boxes, the corporate lounge, 1402 01:13:30,547 --> 01:13:33,787 Speaker 7: the Legends lounge up top, really is a magnificent facility. 1403 01:13:34,027 --> 01:13:36,107 Speaker 7: And underneath what you can't see when you look at it, 1404 01:13:36,707 --> 01:13:39,987 Speaker 7: the facilities for the players, the referees, the administrators, and 1405 01:13:40,147 --> 01:13:42,867 Speaker 7: for the community because it's a community stadium are just 1406 01:13:43,027 --> 01:13:46,227 Speaker 7: first rate. So we're looking forward to some big matches, 1407 01:13:46,267 --> 01:13:48,787 Speaker 7: not only rugby, but soccer and a number of other events. 1408 01:13:48,827 --> 01:13:51,787 Speaker 7: It is a community stadium, a community facility, and the 1409 01:13:51,827 --> 01:13:54,307 Speaker 7: community will certainly get their money's worth out of it. 1410 01:13:54,387 --> 01:13:57,467 Speaker 7: But it's great to have it back one d per capacity. 1411 01:13:58,147 --> 01:14:00,827 Speaker 2: Has your partner in crime, Ken Mahari arrived. You're all 1412 01:14:00,907 --> 01:14:07,347 Speaker 2: their presence incorrect, easy mate, good, good to hear you 1413 01:14:07,507 --> 01:14:10,427 Speaker 2: both in fine voice. Look, I couldn't even tell yeah 1414 01:14:10,467 --> 01:14:11,907 Speaker 2: the flu last time, Phil, So. 1415 01:14:13,747 --> 01:14:16,227 Speaker 7: I'll tell you. Roddy was very unselfish with it. He 1416 01:14:16,387 --> 01:14:19,347 Speaker 7: passed it around her that life a thousand among others. 1417 01:14:19,947 --> 01:14:21,787 Speaker 7: Blame the wife. The wife gave it to me. It's 1418 01:14:21,787 --> 01:14:23,227 Speaker 7: the only thing she's given me all year. 1419 01:14:23,627 --> 01:14:24,227 Speaker 9: And I gave it. 1420 01:14:24,387 --> 01:14:25,707 Speaker 7: I gave it to Ken and he gave it to 1421 01:14:25,787 --> 01:14:27,267 Speaker 7: his wife. So there we go. We'd like to share 1422 01:14:27,347 --> 01:14:29,827 Speaker 7: things around on the commentary box here Jason, I love it. 1423 01:14:29,907 --> 01:14:30,267 Speaker 1: I love it. 1424 01:14:30,347 --> 01:14:32,387 Speaker 2: Boys. Have a great call. There is Phil Quinny and 1425 01:14:32,467 --> 01:14:36,067 Speaker 2: Kim Mahary with the call of Taranaki's Shield defense against 1426 01:14:36,107 --> 01:14:37,907 Speaker 2: White Cut all this afternoon. Get it on Gold Sport 1427 01:14:37,947 --> 01:14:40,747 Speaker 2: and iHeart Radio from just taft to two o'clock. We'll 1428 01:14:40,787 --> 01:14:45,507 Speaker 2: keep you updated here on scores and scoring action as well. 1429 01:14:45,587 --> 01:14:47,627 Speaker 2: Great to get the chance to chat to two just 1430 01:14:47,867 --> 01:14:50,707 Speaker 2: died in the Wall provincial rugby men Phil Quinney and 1431 01:14:50,947 --> 01:14:53,547 Speaker 2: Ken Maharry there with the call. Seventeen away from two. 1432 01:14:54,227 --> 01:14:56,267 Speaker 2: We'll take a break and come back with our Australian 1433 01:14:56,307 --> 01:14:57,627 Speaker 2: correspondent Adam Peacock. 1434 01:14:58,467 --> 01:15:00,307 Speaker 8: It's more than just a game. 1435 01:15:00,667 --> 01:15:04,747 Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason kne and GJ. Gunner homes New 1436 01:15:04,867 --> 01:15:06,947 Speaker 1: Zealand's most trusted home build news. 1437 01:15:06,827 --> 01:15:10,067 Speaker 2: Dogs fourteen to two. But part of our Saturdays is 1438 01:15:10,107 --> 01:15:12,787 Speaker 2: Australian correspondent and Peacock who joins us. Now, can we 1439 01:15:12,827 --> 01:15:15,667 Speaker 2: start with the rugby? The Wallaby's coming up with one 1440 01:15:15,707 --> 01:15:19,547 Speaker 2: of the all time great comebacks last week? Adam? How 1441 01:15:19,667 --> 01:15:22,227 Speaker 2: enthusiastic was the reaction to what the Wallabies did at 1442 01:15:22,267 --> 01:15:23,387 Speaker 2: Ellis Park last weekend? 1443 01:15:24,147 --> 01:15:26,667 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was fantastic. As you know, it's the same 1444 01:15:26,747 --> 01:15:30,227 Speaker 6: deal over there. When our teams play in South Africa, 1445 01:15:30,267 --> 01:15:31,987 Speaker 6: it's in the dead of nights and not everyone ends 1446 01:15:32,067 --> 01:15:35,587 Speaker 6: up watching it. I think the final moments of that 1447 01:15:35,707 --> 01:15:38,147 Speaker 6: game was about quarter past two in the morning, so 1448 01:15:39,147 --> 01:15:41,227 Speaker 6: a lot of people woke up and we're like, oh cool, 1449 01:15:41,227 --> 01:15:43,187 Speaker 6: we had a win. And it was like, oh my god, 1450 01:15:43,307 --> 01:15:45,627 Speaker 6: we were won like that. Twenty two nil down and 1451 01:15:45,707 --> 01:15:48,587 Speaker 6: coming back to plow the spring box away in the 1452 01:15:48,667 --> 01:15:51,187 Speaker 6: second half doesn't happen at Ellis Park, does it. So Yeah, 1453 01:15:51,427 --> 01:15:57,387 Speaker 6: the reaction was one of ultimately surprised but pleasant surprise obviously, 1454 01:15:57,587 --> 01:15:59,507 Speaker 6: And yeah, it's obviously a team going in the right 1455 01:15:59,587 --> 01:16:03,587 Speaker 6: way under Joe Schmidt, and you just hope with the 1456 01:16:03,667 --> 01:16:06,507 Speaker 6: great coach stepping aside that it can be involved come 1457 01:16:06,547 --> 01:16:10,907 Speaker 6: out because whatever he's found with this group and the 1458 01:16:11,027 --> 01:16:14,587 Speaker 6: way that they can come together, that there's an immense 1459 01:16:14,587 --> 01:16:17,467 Speaker 6: amount of unity in that team and that's hard to get. 1460 01:16:18,227 --> 01:16:19,707 Speaker 6: You just don't want to walk out the door when 1461 01:16:19,707 --> 01:16:22,267 Speaker 6: he walks out the door. So yeah, so he's done 1462 01:16:22,307 --> 01:16:25,907 Speaker 6: a fabulous job and it's no real surprise giving his CV, 1463 01:16:26,147 --> 01:16:28,067 Speaker 6: but there's another one to try and win it in 1464 01:16:28,227 --> 01:16:30,867 Speaker 6: Cape Town in a few hours time, so hopefully that 1465 01:16:30,987 --> 01:16:31,547 Speaker 6: can back it up. 1466 01:16:31,787 --> 01:16:33,827 Speaker 2: What is the official or even the unofficial word on 1467 01:16:33,947 --> 01:16:37,547 Speaker 2: Joshmut's involvement beyond his contract? Is there a word that 1468 01:16:37,587 --> 01:16:41,227 Speaker 2: he'll be some sort of consultant either officially unofficially, have 1469 01:16:41,307 --> 01:16:43,187 Speaker 2: a connection to the team in any way. 1470 01:16:43,987 --> 01:16:46,467 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a bit ambiguous at this stage, but I 1471 01:16:46,627 --> 01:16:48,947 Speaker 6: know I'm good mate of a few people who work 1472 01:16:48,987 --> 01:16:51,107 Speaker 6: in m't Be Australia and they are so keen to 1473 01:16:51,227 --> 01:16:53,827 Speaker 6: have him involved in some way, shape or form. And 1474 01:16:53,907 --> 01:16:56,707 Speaker 6: I think the relationship and the crossover with Les kids 1475 01:16:57,027 --> 01:16:59,187 Speaker 6: who's going to come in and be the main guy 1476 01:16:59,347 --> 01:17:03,307 Speaker 6: going forward. Les would be stupid not to kind of 1477 01:17:03,467 --> 01:17:06,547 Speaker 6: keep the door Ajar like you'd imagine Eddie Jones kind 1478 01:17:06,547 --> 01:17:08,907 Speaker 6: of kept him the door of Jarda the guy took over. 1479 01:17:08,987 --> 01:17:12,467 Speaker 6: Probably not, but that rugby's in a different place now 1480 01:17:12,547 --> 01:17:16,147 Speaker 6: from the Jones here, so yeah, it's one to keep 1481 01:17:16,147 --> 01:17:18,747 Speaker 6: an eye on exactly what he does. But yeah, if 1482 01:17:18,867 --> 01:17:21,347 Speaker 6: Fingers crossed it, he does. They involved because Australian rugby 1483 01:17:21,427 --> 01:17:24,547 Speaker 6: needs it. Australian rugby more so than just about any 1484 01:17:24,587 --> 01:17:26,187 Speaker 6: other country in the world, needs the wall it is 1485 01:17:26,267 --> 01:17:28,627 Speaker 6: to do well because that's what impresses people, that's what 1486 01:17:28,787 --> 01:17:31,707 Speaker 6: lets people know that the sport's going on. And for 1487 01:17:32,387 --> 01:17:35,827 Speaker 6: for instance, for the spring Box to make ten changes 1488 01:17:35,867 --> 01:17:38,707 Speaker 6: to their starting lineup for this second test tells you 1489 01:17:38,827 --> 01:17:40,947 Speaker 6: that this side has got something going for it out 1490 01:17:40,987 --> 01:17:45,347 Speaker 6: of last week and yeah, hopefully that rugby Australia kind 1491 01:17:45,347 --> 01:17:48,827 Speaker 6: of gets everything going around the two national sides, obviously 1492 01:17:48,827 --> 01:17:50,827 Speaker 6: the women's side of finding the World Cup and we're 1493 01:17:50,827 --> 01:17:52,427 Speaker 6: going to play their first matter to night against some 1494 01:17:52,587 --> 01:17:55,787 Speaker 6: alas so that the national sides of the absolute beacon 1495 01:17:56,307 --> 01:17:59,747 Speaker 6: of the sport and everything else filters downstreet with Sometimes 1496 01:17:59,787 --> 01:18:00,587 Speaker 6: it goes the other way. 1497 01:18:01,107 --> 01:18:03,787 Speaker 2: Let's go to the NRL last night, two cracking games 1498 01:18:03,827 --> 01:18:08,147 Speaker 2: featuring four very good teams is beating Penrith and Golden Point. 1499 01:18:08,667 --> 01:18:11,387 Speaker 2: Incredible finish. Where does the finish of that game sit 1500 01:18:11,747 --> 01:18:13,027 Speaker 2: compared to other ones you've seen. 1501 01:18:14,867 --> 01:18:17,547 Speaker 6: It's as good as the guests like. In terms of 1502 01:18:18,027 --> 01:18:21,547 Speaker 6: amazing finishes, I haven't seen that. I can't remember an 1503 01:18:21,587 --> 01:18:24,387 Speaker 6: instance where a guy's going for the match winning field goal, 1504 01:18:24,507 --> 01:18:26,107 Speaker 6: hits the post and then the other team gets the ball, 1505 01:18:26,147 --> 01:18:27,667 Speaker 6: sprints up the other end of the field without the 1506 01:18:27,707 --> 01:18:32,067 Speaker 6: tackle being made and win the game. It's pretty out 1507 01:18:32,107 --> 01:18:35,987 Speaker 6: there scenario. So yeah, it was an incredible finish, and 1508 01:18:36,027 --> 01:18:38,267 Speaker 6: there have been other great finishes as well, but that's 1509 01:18:38,307 --> 01:18:41,267 Speaker 6: certainly put it in the top ten of all time 1510 01:18:41,307 --> 01:18:43,147 Speaker 6: and it's big for Cambra. I thought they were gone. 1511 01:18:43,227 --> 01:18:45,467 Speaker 6: I was actually out to dinner, so I wasn't watching 1512 01:18:45,507 --> 01:18:47,747 Speaker 6: the match live. I've not gone back and watched the highlights, 1513 01:18:47,787 --> 01:18:50,387 Speaker 6: and you never rivily get the field for the rhythm 1514 01:18:50,387 --> 01:18:52,267 Speaker 6: of the game and how they did it. But look 1515 01:18:52,307 --> 01:18:54,307 Speaker 6: at the four teams that played last week, and we'll 1516 01:18:54,307 --> 01:18:56,347 Speaker 6: get to the other game in the second last night, 1517 01:18:56,507 --> 01:18:58,307 Speaker 6: I can see them being the last the teams in 1518 01:18:58,347 --> 01:19:01,667 Speaker 6: the competition. So last night we got a little precursor 1519 01:19:01,747 --> 01:19:05,067 Speaker 6: of maybe prelim final weekend because and it lived up 1520 01:19:05,067 --> 01:19:05,227 Speaker 6: to it. 1521 01:19:05,507 --> 01:19:07,667 Speaker 2: Two great games four indeed year, the second one of 1522 01:19:07,667 --> 01:19:09,987 Speaker 2: the Storm beating the Bulldogs. Five wins in a row 1523 01:19:10,067 --> 01:19:13,467 Speaker 2: now for the Storm, including Bulldogs Panthers and consecutive weeks. 1524 01:19:13,867 --> 01:19:16,107 Speaker 2: They just always look dangerous, don't they. And they, I 1525 01:19:16,187 --> 01:19:19,267 Speaker 2: mean they know how to win in August and September 1526 01:19:19,507 --> 01:19:22,747 Speaker 2: looking dangerous again the Storm to go quite deep, they do. 1527 01:19:23,667 --> 01:19:25,827 Speaker 6: I hope you don't mind me mentioning the bookmakers. The 1528 01:19:26,787 --> 01:19:30,827 Speaker 6: bookmakers have got them what really pronounced favorites at the moment. 1529 01:19:31,627 --> 01:19:32,387 Speaker 10: I didn't see it. 1530 01:19:33,147 --> 01:19:35,747 Speaker 6: I see them being one of four. I don't see 1531 01:19:35,787 --> 01:19:38,427 Speaker 6: them being an absolute standout. And I went back and 1532 01:19:38,467 --> 01:19:40,187 Speaker 6: had to look because I'm just going to feeling people 1533 01:19:40,347 --> 01:19:42,987 Speaker 6: get blown away by Melbourne Storm of fans say yeah, 1534 01:19:43,027 --> 01:19:46,387 Speaker 6: they're great because they always make finals, but for them 1535 01:19:46,547 --> 01:19:49,667 Speaker 6: to have the ross they do, they've got a losing 1536 01:19:49,747 --> 01:19:53,547 Speaker 6: records since Camen Smith's retired in finals games. They're four 1537 01:19:53,667 --> 01:19:58,107 Speaker 6: and five in finals games since twenty twenty, so they've 1538 01:19:58,107 --> 01:20:00,227 Speaker 6: still got a bit to prove. And I just saw 1539 01:20:00,347 --> 01:20:02,547 Speaker 6: last night, like the Dogs, the Dogs actually got over 1540 01:20:02,547 --> 01:20:06,667 Speaker 6: the line six times. Brandon tries to disallowed family not 1541 01:20:07,027 --> 01:20:09,627 Speaker 6: disputing the fact. But there's a couple twice they had 1542 01:20:09,667 --> 01:20:11,987 Speaker 6: the ball Kno knocked out of their hands as they 1543 01:20:12,027 --> 01:20:15,027 Speaker 6: were going to ground like that. They're just freak occurrences. 1544 01:20:15,107 --> 01:20:17,667 Speaker 6: That's just hanging on stuff. So I feel that the 1545 01:20:17,707 --> 01:20:21,107 Speaker 6: Bulldogs will take a lot out of that. I've heear 1546 01:20:21,187 --> 01:20:23,067 Speaker 6: so the Dogs going into that one thinking all this 1547 01:20:23,147 --> 01:20:25,347 Speaker 6: will be a determining fact whether or not they can 1548 01:20:25,427 --> 01:20:27,347 Speaker 6: win a comp or not. But in a big game 1549 01:20:27,427 --> 01:20:29,347 Speaker 6: like this, I think they aimed up and I think 1550 01:20:29,387 --> 01:20:32,427 Speaker 6: they're still in practilations. Probably not the favorite option, but yeah, Canberra, 1551 01:20:32,507 --> 01:20:38,307 Speaker 6: Penriis Dogs and Melbourne got outside those four and quite 1552 01:20:38,507 --> 01:20:40,827 Speaker 6: very hard to hit someone else to break into our 1553 01:20:40,867 --> 01:20:41,267 Speaker 6: top four. 1554 01:20:41,547 --> 01:20:43,707 Speaker 2: I can always rely on you for cool headed logic. 1555 01:20:44,107 --> 01:20:46,707 Speaker 2: In the midst of all this frenzy passion about teams 1556 01:20:47,147 --> 01:20:49,147 Speaker 2: on Australian sporting matters. 1557 01:20:49,627 --> 01:20:51,347 Speaker 6: Finally got an issue at the moment because I've got 1558 01:20:51,387 --> 01:20:55,067 Speaker 6: my manly team has just imploded, and the team in 1559 01:20:55,107 --> 01:20:57,547 Speaker 6: the Premier League, Newcastle, their best player doesn't want to play. 1560 01:20:57,627 --> 01:21:00,027 Speaker 6: So I just thought almost given up on the passionate 1561 01:21:00,067 --> 01:21:02,147 Speaker 6: side of things, because everything I put passion into just 1562 01:21:02,227 --> 01:21:04,707 Speaker 6: throws it back in my face. So Yeah, that's why 1563 01:21:04,707 --> 01:21:07,227 Speaker 6: I've taken the logical love morning. 1564 01:21:07,427 --> 01:21:10,387 Speaker 2: All of our listeners can totally relate to being sports 1565 01:21:10,467 --> 01:21:12,347 Speaker 2: fans themselves. Always great to chat mate. We'll do it 1566 01:21:12,387 --> 01:21:14,907 Speaker 2: again next Saturday. Now, thank you mate. That's Edam p 1567 01:21:15,027 --> 01:21:17,827 Speaker 2: Cock here, Austraining correspondent. Yes, with this call head of 1568 01:21:17,867 --> 01:21:20,507 Speaker 2: logic Warriors Titans tonight. Of course, let's not forget that 1569 01:21:20,627 --> 01:21:23,387 Speaker 2: seven point thirty Warriors Titans. Can we just beat this team? 1570 01:21:23,507 --> 01:21:27,187 Speaker 2: Can we just please beat this team and keep this 1571 01:21:27,347 --> 01:21:30,027 Speaker 2: march towards the top four going. The Raiders did us 1572 01:21:30,027 --> 01:21:33,347 Speaker 2: a favor last night beating the Panthers. It was always 1573 01:21:33,427 --> 01:21:35,547 Speaker 2: going to be when and we're in in terms of 1574 01:21:35,587 --> 01:21:38,507 Speaker 2: the top four, but just a bit of extra breathing space. 1575 01:21:38,587 --> 01:21:40,987 Speaker 2: Perhaps Sharks are up there as well, though. Of course 1576 01:21:41,627 --> 01:21:43,907 Speaker 2: just one tonight, boys, just win tonight. We'll cover it 1577 01:21:43,987 --> 01:21:46,787 Speaker 2: off tomorrow regardless of what happens. Seven and a half 1578 01:21:46,827 --> 01:21:47,827 Speaker 2: to two New Stalks. 1579 01:21:47,587 --> 01:21:51,747 Speaker 1: MB analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting 1580 01:21:51,827 --> 01:21:54,387 Speaker 1: world weekends for it with Jason Pie. 1581 01:21:54,507 --> 01:21:56,907 Speaker 8: They're call eight hundred and eighty eighty News. 1582 01:21:56,827 --> 01:22:00,067 Speaker 2: Talks MB four to two an email interesting rugby fact 1583 01:22:00,187 --> 01:22:03,227 Speaker 2: Cody Taylor Tomorrow becomes the fourteenth player with one hundred 1584 01:22:03,267 --> 01:22:05,307 Speaker 2: test match appearances for the All Blacks and the third 1585 01:22:05,427 --> 01:22:09,507 Speaker 2: from Fielding Agricultural High School. The only other school with 1586 01:22:09,587 --> 01:22:11,307 Speaker 2: more than one player on the list of christ Church 1587 01:22:11,387 --> 01:22:14,547 Speaker 2: Boys High with two. Many of the higher profile rugby 1588 01:22:14,587 --> 01:22:17,187 Speaker 2: schools have no one on the list, and as it happens, 1589 01:22:17,227 --> 01:22:20,467 Speaker 2: the email continues. Fielding last week won the Moasca Cup 1590 01:22:20,507 --> 01:22:23,627 Speaker 2: for the first time. They're defending it and the Hurricanes 1591 01:22:23,787 --> 01:22:28,307 Speaker 2: Region First fifteen title today against Hastings Boys High at 1592 01:22:28,467 --> 01:22:31,467 Speaker 2: Massi University, the winner qualifying for a place in the 1593 01:22:31,587 --> 01:22:35,187 Speaker 2: National Secondary School's Top four playoff. Thanks indeed, year field 1594 01:22:35,187 --> 01:22:39,187 Speaker 2: In High School Cody Taylor, joining Sam Whitelocke and Aaron Smith, 1595 01:22:39,227 --> 01:22:41,787 Speaker 2: I think as the other two old Boys to chalk 1596 01:22:41,907 --> 01:22:44,947 Speaker 2: up one hundred tests. After two o'clock, How do the 1597 01:22:45,027 --> 01:22:47,667 Speaker 2: Aussies feel about all of our best netballers going over 1598 01:22:47,747 --> 01:22:51,787 Speaker 2: there and taking spots up in the Australian Super Netball 1599 01:22:51,867 --> 01:22:55,627 Speaker 2: comp Lisa Alexander, former Diamonds coach, will go to love Welter, 1600 01:22:55,947 --> 01:22:58,107 Speaker 2: Espana as well with Dion Smith, one of the three 1601 01:22:58,187 --> 01:22:59,427 Speaker 2: key we was taking part. 1602 01:23:01,027 --> 01:23:03,787 Speaker 1: To the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues 1603 01:23:03,947 --> 01:23:07,787 Speaker 1: on and after fields all on Wi jons Ford with 1604 01:23:08,027 --> 01:23:14,667 Speaker 1: Jason Vane on Your Home of Sports US Talks till seven. 1605 01:23:14,707 --> 01:23:17,347 Speaker 2: Welcome back in. This is Weekend'spot until three's and beverage 1606 01:23:17,427 --> 01:23:19,587 Speaker 2: after that with the Weekend Collective. We're going to play 1607 01:23:19,627 --> 01:23:23,427 Speaker 2: a sporting chance this hour with the tab. We've got 1608 01:23:23,427 --> 01:23:25,667 Speaker 2: a one hundred and fifty dollars bonus bet to place 1609 01:23:25,707 --> 01:23:29,947 Speaker 2: on your behalf. I'll give you three options on where 1610 01:23:30,027 --> 01:23:32,187 Speaker 2: you can place it. You choose one, we place the bet. 1611 01:23:32,547 --> 01:23:35,427 Speaker 2: If it happens, you get the winnings minus the one fifty. 1612 01:23:35,467 --> 01:23:39,507 Speaker 2: Of course, pretty lucrative. Last week all three options came home, 1613 01:23:41,387 --> 01:23:44,587 Speaker 2: so our winner was a winner from the start. He 1614 01:23:44,627 --> 01:23:46,747 Speaker 2: didn't know that at the time, of course, anyway. A 1615 01:23:46,787 --> 01:23:50,027 Speaker 2: sporting Chance before three Darren Basely all Whites coaches on 1616 01:23:50,067 --> 01:23:52,947 Speaker 2: the show. This our Dion Smith one of three kiwis 1617 01:23:53,147 --> 01:23:56,667 Speaker 2: in the final Grand Tour of the year cycling Wise 1618 01:23:56,747 --> 01:24:00,107 Speaker 2: Love Welter, a Spaniard. He's on the show. Lisa Alexander 1619 01:24:00,147 --> 01:24:02,467 Speaker 2: standing by to chat to us to the former Australian 1620 01:24:02,507 --> 01:24:09,427 Speaker 2: Diamonds coach about the influx of kiwis into Australia's Supernetball competition. Obviously, 1621 01:24:09,467 --> 01:24:12,227 Speaker 2: the eligibility rules have change now and that has been 1622 01:24:12,267 --> 01:24:15,227 Speaker 2: the catalyst for close to a dozen of our top 1623 01:24:15,267 --> 01:24:18,787 Speaker 2: players signing contracts in Australia. So how they're feeling about 1624 01:24:18,787 --> 01:24:21,507 Speaker 2: that over there, Lisa Alexander. Shortly, we will also keep 1625 01:24:21,587 --> 01:24:25,227 Speaker 2: eyes on live sport, including White Cuttle's challenge for the 1626 01:24:25,307 --> 01:24:28,907 Speaker 2: Rand Philly Shield against Tartanaki at Stadium Tartanaki. But as 1627 01:24:28,987 --> 01:24:32,107 Speaker 2: we always do at around about this time on weekend sport, 1628 01:24:32,147 --> 01:24:34,867 Speaker 2: it's time to get you up to date or update 1629 01:24:34,987 --> 01:24:38,027 Speaker 2: you on the stuff that you're monymist. A bit of 1630 01:24:38,267 --> 01:24:40,307 Speaker 2: sport has been happening in the last little while which 1631 01:24:40,347 --> 01:24:41,947 Speaker 2: you might not have caught up with. Starting with the 1632 01:24:41,947 --> 01:24:44,507 Speaker 2: Premier League. A flood of goals. This is, in case 1633 01:24:44,507 --> 01:24:46,587 Speaker 2: you mister by the way, a flood of goals. It's 1634 01:24:46,707 --> 01:24:49,987 Speaker 2: Chelsea sunk west Ham in the Premier League this morning. 1635 01:24:50,427 --> 01:24:53,187 Speaker 21: Can't they defend this that if that's a Hemison doesn't 1636 01:24:53,227 --> 01:24:55,947 Speaker 21: really convince again and it is a. 1637 01:24:56,107 --> 01:24:57,067 Speaker 5: Fifth for Chelsea. 1638 01:24:58,227 --> 01:25:04,627 Speaker 21: Absolute charnish at the hands of Chelsea Hair. It is 1639 01:25:04,787 --> 01:25:09,707 Speaker 21: a real horror show in front of their own fans. 1640 01:25:10,427 --> 01:25:13,667 Speaker 2: Five to one to Chelsea as they continue their momentum 1641 01:25:13,747 --> 01:25:16,627 Speaker 2: from the Club World Cup win, staying in the UK 1642 01:25:16,787 --> 01:25:19,707 Speaker 2: A predictable start to the Women's Rugby World Cup for England. 1643 01:25:19,867 --> 01:25:21,467 Speaker 2: England will rumble once more. 1644 01:25:22,107 --> 01:25:26,947 Speaker 10: This relentless light wave is going to get another. 1645 01:25:28,467 --> 01:25:33,587 Speaker 22: Can eleventh try in the match. Lark KiB Davis thethora. 1646 01:25:33,147 --> 01:25:36,747 Speaker 2: Of thislf Homina stuff. A sixty nine to seven pummeling 1647 01:25:36,907 --> 01:25:39,827 Speaker 2: of the United States for the hosts England. The Blackburns 1648 01:25:39,827 --> 01:25:43,187 Speaker 2: open their campaign against Spain Monday morning. We're all on 1649 01:25:43,227 --> 01:25:47,907 Speaker 2: the show tomorrow. In the NPC, Canterbury made short work 1650 01:25:48,467 --> 01:25:51,267 Speaker 2: of the Magpies to improve the four and O Canterbury 1651 01:25:52,187 --> 01:25:54,707 Speaker 2: charge away U stuff. 1652 01:25:54,707 --> 01:25:58,027 Speaker 16: Goes to the left hand side and McNicol eyes a 1653 01:25:58,147 --> 01:26:02,547 Speaker 16: hole puts the pedal to the metal and goes through untouched. 1654 01:26:02,107 --> 01:26:05,227 Speaker 2: And scores a twenty six to seven win for Canterbury. 1655 01:26:05,307 --> 01:26:09,347 Speaker 2: In the Bay and two blockbuster NRL matches last night, 1656 01:26:09,427 --> 01:26:12,267 Speaker 2: the Melbourne Storm holding on to beat the Bulldogs. 1657 01:26:12,267 --> 01:26:18,027 Speaker 16: Speedies almost there, saved to Hays but Melbourne closing in. 1658 01:26:19,027 --> 01:26:23,867 Speaker 16: There's it, high kick, it's big, it's there, it's remargable, 1659 01:26:24,267 --> 01:26:24,987 Speaker 16: it's save. 1660 01:26:24,827 --> 01:26:29,467 Speaker 2: The Accurt's twenty fourteen to the Melbourne Storm and an 1661 01:26:29,627 --> 01:26:33,907 Speaker 2: utterly incredible finish and the match between the Raiders and 1662 01:26:34,067 --> 01:26:37,187 Speaker 2: the Panthers that went to Golden Point and Nathan Cleary 1663 01:26:37,867 --> 01:26:39,627 Speaker 2: was lining up to win it with a drop goal 1664 01:26:39,707 --> 01:26:40,347 Speaker 2: for the Panthers. 1665 01:26:41,227 --> 01:26:46,067 Speaker 8: Clary in position thirty seven minutes out right, it's up 1666 01:26:46,547 --> 01:26:48,107 Speaker 8: step the coast. 1667 01:26:49,067 --> 01:26:52,707 Speaker 7: The posts, my goodness, taper. 1668 01:26:52,507 --> 01:26:55,667 Speaker 5: Top for the battle say today. 1669 01:26:58,067 --> 01:27:06,747 Speaker 21: Had stage the adscas. 1670 01:27:17,067 --> 01:27:22,027 Speaker 1: Breaking down the hail Mary's and the epic fails. Weekend 1671 01:27:22,107 --> 01:27:24,627 Speaker 1: Sport with Jason hin News Talk. 1672 01:27:24,747 --> 01:27:28,787 Speaker 2: Zenb Incredible stuff there from Vossy Andrew Voss calling one 1673 01:27:29,067 --> 01:27:31,827 Speaker 2: but a hyperbole perhaps, but you can't blame them with 1674 01:27:31,987 --> 01:27:34,347 Speaker 2: that finish from the Canberra Raiders to get up over 1675 01:27:34,427 --> 01:27:37,307 Speaker 2: the Penrith Panthers. As mentioned before too, the Warriors taken 1676 01:27:37,307 --> 01:27:39,787 Speaker 2: on the Gold Coast Titans tonight afternoon pint he says 1677 01:27:39,827 --> 01:27:43,267 Speaker 2: Mark on text. Here's a stat for you, Titans Warriors. 1678 01:27:43,867 --> 01:27:46,427 Speaker 2: The Titans have won six of the last seven games. Mark. 1679 01:27:46,467 --> 01:27:49,387 Speaker 2: I was aware of that stat. I was spectacularly ignoring 1680 01:27:49,467 --> 01:27:52,707 Speaker 2: it and I hope that it won't come into play tonight, 1681 01:27:52,827 --> 01:27:55,827 Speaker 2: but I appreciate you've bringing it to my attention and 1682 01:27:55,947 --> 01:27:59,547 Speaker 2: to the attention of our listeners. I'm sure most Warriors 1683 01:27:59,667 --> 01:28:04,067 Speaker 2: fans know the rather poor record that their team has 1684 01:28:04,107 --> 01:28:06,947 Speaker 2: against the Titans. Let's hope that that will end tonight 1685 01:28:07,347 --> 01:28:10,787 Speaker 2: will certainly not be continued tonight. Seven point thirty or 1686 01:28:10,867 --> 01:28:13,987 Speaker 2: La covered off for you on the show tomorrow. The 1687 01:28:14,107 --> 01:28:17,547 Speaker 2: exodus of our top netball players meantime from the A 1688 01:28:17,667 --> 01:28:21,587 Speaker 2: and Z Premiership continues. Whitney Sooners and Jane Watson will 1689 01:28:21,587 --> 01:28:25,147 Speaker 2: play for the Sydney based Giants next year. Kelly Jackson, 1690 01:28:25,227 --> 01:28:28,347 Speaker 2: Maddy Gordon and Tapius Selby Rickett have all joined the 1691 01:28:28,427 --> 01:28:32,187 Speaker 2: Queensland Firebirds. Grace Wicky, of course, returns for a second 1692 01:28:32,547 --> 01:28:36,027 Speaker 2: season with the new South Wales Swifts. Karen Berger's off 1693 01:28:36,067 --> 01:28:39,707 Speaker 2: to the Sunshine Coast Lightning. Kate Heffernan has joined the 1694 01:28:39,787 --> 01:28:42,907 Speaker 2: Adelaide Thunderbirds and there may be more to come. So 1695 01:28:43,427 --> 01:28:46,667 Speaker 2: how are they feeling about this? Across the Tasman Let's 1696 01:28:46,667 --> 01:28:50,147 Speaker 2: bring in former Australian Diamonds coach and Member of the 1697 01:28:50,347 --> 01:28:54,067 Speaker 2: Order of Australia for services to netball, Lisa Alexander. Lisa, 1698 01:28:54,107 --> 01:28:56,467 Speaker 2: thanks for joining us across New Zealand. What has your 1699 01:28:56,547 --> 01:29:00,867 Speaker 2: reaction been to the influx of New Zealand players signed 1700 01:29:00,947 --> 01:29:02,267 Speaker 2: by Australian clubs. 1701 01:29:03,027 --> 01:29:06,827 Speaker 22: I am not surprised one bet. And it's something actually 1702 01:29:07,027 --> 01:29:14,267 Speaker 22: that once the eligibility rule was discussed by New Zealand Netball, 1703 01:29:14,387 --> 01:29:17,267 Speaker 22: of course, then I just thought it was just a 1704 01:29:17,347 --> 01:29:20,827 Speaker 22: matter of time that those players, particularly your top seven 1705 01:29:20,987 --> 01:29:27,547 Speaker 22: from the Silver Ferns, would be definitely targeted by recruiters 1706 01:29:27,627 --> 01:29:31,307 Speaker 22: over here for those clubs. And you know, it's the 1707 01:29:31,387 --> 01:29:34,227 Speaker 22: world's best domestic competition and it's great. 1708 01:29:34,467 --> 01:29:35,627 Speaker 5: I think it's fantastic. 1709 01:29:36,187 --> 01:29:39,747 Speaker 2: Has there been, to your knowledge, any pushback from the 1710 01:29:39,827 --> 01:29:43,187 Speaker 2: Australian nitball public. Maybe some Australian players who see their 1711 01:29:43,267 --> 01:29:47,507 Speaker 2: spots potentially taken in these teams by New Zealanders. 1712 01:29:49,227 --> 01:29:53,507 Speaker 22: Look, I have a fairly close eye on social media 1713 01:29:53,667 --> 01:29:55,467 Speaker 22: over here. But at the end of the day, I 1714 01:29:55,507 --> 01:30:00,267 Speaker 22: think everyone realized, and particularly because it's such a globally 1715 01:30:00,467 --> 01:30:03,387 Speaker 22: supported competition, there's a lot of people from England that 1716 01:30:03,507 --> 01:30:06,907 Speaker 22: support it, also from New Zealand I think, and South Africa. 1717 01:30:07,027 --> 01:30:09,147 Speaker 22: They seem to think that it's a great thing for 1718 01:30:09,227 --> 01:30:12,347 Speaker 22: the sport that the best players in the world are 1719 01:30:12,387 --> 01:30:15,027 Speaker 22: playing in. What is I think we know now the 1720 01:30:15,307 --> 01:30:17,667 Speaker 22: world's best domestic competition to netball. 1721 01:30:18,427 --> 01:30:20,307 Speaker 2: As you pointed out, the catalyst for this has been 1722 01:30:20,347 --> 01:30:24,147 Speaker 2: the changing of the Silver Ferns eligibility rules allowing players 1723 01:30:24,147 --> 01:30:25,907 Speaker 2: to apply for an exemption to still play for New 1724 01:30:25,947 --> 01:30:28,987 Speaker 2: Zealand while playing their domestic netball elsewhere. Do you think 1725 01:30:29,027 --> 01:30:31,547 Speaker 2: that was the right move by Netball New Zealand. 1726 01:30:32,667 --> 01:30:36,427 Speaker 22: I think it had to happen because Netbull's moving well 1727 01:30:36,507 --> 01:30:39,987 Speaker 22: and truly into the professional era and it would have 1728 01:30:40,067 --> 01:30:44,827 Speaker 22: been really restricting their ability to earn a salary and 1729 01:30:44,947 --> 01:30:47,667 Speaker 22: be professional netball as if they weren't allowed to do that. 1730 01:30:48,347 --> 01:30:50,787 Speaker 22: So I think it's a smart move and I don't 1731 01:30:50,867 --> 01:30:56,507 Speaker 22: think it will have a major impact on the strength 1732 01:30:56,587 --> 01:30:58,707 Speaker 22: of the Silver Ferns, that's for certain. I think it 1733 01:30:58,707 --> 01:31:03,227 Speaker 22: will actually strengthen them to a greater level. And what's 1734 01:31:03,347 --> 01:31:06,227 Speaker 22: going to have to obviously happen is a lot more 1735 01:31:06,427 --> 01:31:09,787 Speaker 22: investment into the New Zealand Pathway and to ensure that 1736 01:31:09,947 --> 01:31:13,227 Speaker 22: the competition, the domestic competition is as good as it 1737 01:31:13,307 --> 01:31:16,307 Speaker 22: can be in New Zealand as well, which is what 1738 01:31:16,427 --> 01:31:20,707 Speaker 22: Australia will need to do too, particularly with the reserves competition. 1739 01:31:21,467 --> 01:31:24,067 Speaker 22: So you've really got to keep and continue that pipeline 1740 01:31:24,547 --> 01:31:27,627 Speaker 22: of talent and you've got to keep them interested and 1741 01:31:28,307 --> 01:31:32,547 Speaker 22: then obviously getting those opportunities in international contests. 1742 01:31:33,227 --> 01:31:35,707 Speaker 2: You've landed on a very good point, actually, Lisa. Having 1743 01:31:35,747 --> 01:31:38,827 Speaker 2: so many of our international players in Supernepal, which as 1744 01:31:38,907 --> 01:31:42,107 Speaker 2: you say, is without doubt the strongest domestic competition in 1745 01:31:42,147 --> 01:31:45,027 Speaker 2: the world, that will almost certainly strengthen the Silver Ferns. 1746 01:31:45,027 --> 01:31:47,267 Speaker 2: I've got no doubt about that. Should that be a 1747 01:31:47,387 --> 01:31:51,307 Speaker 2: consideration for administrators in Australia to be aware of. 1748 01:31:52,667 --> 01:31:55,067 Speaker 22: Look, they are aware of it. They were aware of 1749 01:31:55,187 --> 01:31:58,707 Speaker 22: it back in two seventeen when I was Australian Diamonds 1750 01:31:58,787 --> 01:32:01,307 Speaker 22: coach and we had to put our submissions in around 1751 01:32:01,707 --> 01:32:06,227 Speaker 22: from our high performance unit, around the rules for eligibility, 1752 01:32:06,347 --> 01:32:09,747 Speaker 22: and even at that time we argued that perhaps two 1753 01:32:09,867 --> 01:32:14,267 Speaker 22: imports per team would be enough, but you know, the 1754 01:32:14,347 --> 01:32:16,547 Speaker 22: powers that be at the time felt that they really 1755 01:32:16,627 --> 01:32:20,147 Speaker 22: wanted to have a league on its own that would 1756 01:32:20,187 --> 01:32:23,187 Speaker 22: be the best domestic competition in the world, so they 1757 01:32:23,307 --> 01:32:27,427 Speaker 22: went with the open entry of as many imports as possible. 1758 01:32:28,187 --> 01:32:31,027 Speaker 22: And I think it's actually enriched our netball here in 1759 01:32:31,107 --> 01:32:34,667 Speaker 22: Australia as well. I think we are learning more about 1760 01:32:34,707 --> 01:32:37,427 Speaker 22: our opposition as well at the same time, so it's 1761 01:32:37,507 --> 01:32:41,067 Speaker 22: not necessarily all doom and gloom. In fact, you know 1762 01:32:41,227 --> 01:32:45,067 Speaker 22: you've got eight kiwi's coming over and you know there's 1763 01:32:45,107 --> 01:32:49,387 Speaker 22: still sixty five spots for restrain and athletes in this competition, 1764 01:32:49,627 --> 01:32:52,147 Speaker 22: so there's still you know, the numbers are still in 1765 01:32:52,227 --> 01:32:52,787 Speaker 22: our favor. 1766 01:32:53,467 --> 01:32:56,627 Speaker 2: As you say, it'll need a rethink over here, a refresher, 1767 01:32:57,227 --> 01:32:58,787 Speaker 2: a look at the pathways to make sure that the 1768 01:32:58,867 --> 01:33:02,347 Speaker 2: ayan d premissurep out domestic competition is still strong. How 1769 01:33:02,427 --> 01:33:05,707 Speaker 2: important is it you know that New Zealand nipple internationally 1770 01:33:06,147 --> 01:33:08,027 Speaker 2: and semestically is strong. 1771 01:33:09,587 --> 01:33:13,147 Speaker 22: Oh, it's absolutely critical for the next stages of the 1772 01:33:13,227 --> 01:33:16,627 Speaker 22: growth of the sport, particularly if we're going as we've 1773 01:33:16,747 --> 01:33:19,467 Speaker 22: already said and lizz Elis is put out there, we 1774 01:33:19,627 --> 01:33:23,307 Speaker 22: want netball to be in the twenty thirty two Brisbane Olympics. 1775 01:33:24,427 --> 01:33:27,187 Speaker 22: You know, I think it's vital that we have as 1776 01:33:27,307 --> 01:33:32,147 Speaker 22: much international competitiveness as we possibly can, and we're starting 1777 01:33:32,227 --> 01:33:35,467 Speaker 22: to do that now. South Africa coming over to play 1778 01:33:35,507 --> 01:33:38,307 Speaker 22: ours in a Test series I think is terrific, and 1779 01:33:39,107 --> 01:33:41,027 Speaker 22: we just need to really grow the sport from a 1780 01:33:41,067 --> 01:33:45,627 Speaker 22: global perspective. Of course, that means higher income from broadcast 1781 01:33:45,787 --> 01:33:50,067 Speaker 22: rights when it gets displayed into countries like America. 1782 01:33:50,787 --> 01:33:51,467 Speaker 11: I know there's a. 1783 01:33:51,507 --> 01:33:56,227 Speaker 22: Push over there to get more eyeballs on screens watching netball, 1784 01:33:56,507 --> 01:33:59,067 Speaker 22: and certainly from my point of view, we've got to 1785 01:33:59,107 --> 01:34:04,027 Speaker 22: make sure we provide a fantastic high performance setting an 1786 01:34:04,147 --> 01:34:07,787 Speaker 22: environment for those athletes to really and shine on the 1787 01:34:07,867 --> 01:34:08,907 Speaker 22: international stage. 1788 01:34:09,507 --> 01:34:12,867 Speaker 2: I read some quotes from you recently saying you were 1789 01:34:12,867 --> 01:34:14,627 Speaker 2: a fan of there being a couple of New Zealand 1790 01:34:14,707 --> 01:34:18,267 Speaker 2: teams in Super Netball as part of competition expansion. Now 1791 01:34:18,307 --> 01:34:21,627 Speaker 2: that was before these eligibility rules over here were changed. 1792 01:34:22,467 --> 01:34:24,547 Speaker 2: Can you still see that happening? Are you still keen 1793 01:34:24,627 --> 01:34:27,307 Speaker 2: on that idea of a couple of New Zealand based 1794 01:34:27,347 --> 01:34:28,627 Speaker 2: teams in super Netball? 1795 01:34:29,627 --> 01:34:29,827 Speaker 11: Yeah? 1796 01:34:29,947 --> 01:34:31,827 Speaker 22: Look, I think so, and I think we can also 1797 01:34:31,987 --> 01:34:37,387 Speaker 22: look to Asia as well. Singapore, particularly from an economic 1798 01:34:37,467 --> 01:34:41,227 Speaker 22: point of view, is a very big part of the 1799 01:34:41,987 --> 01:34:45,147 Speaker 22: driving economics in this area, and they've also got some 1800 01:34:45,347 --> 01:34:49,747 Speaker 22: very strong netballers there too, So I think reaching out 1801 01:34:49,747 --> 01:34:52,387 Speaker 22: a little bit and particularly over the ditch is an 1802 01:34:52,427 --> 01:34:56,067 Speaker 22: important part of the puzzle if we can get that 1803 01:34:56,227 --> 01:34:57,547 Speaker 22: expansion model happening. 1804 01:34:58,027 --> 01:35:00,787 Speaker 2: Some very interesting thoughts, Lisa, thanks so much for joining us. 1805 01:35:00,907 --> 01:35:03,427 Speaker 2: Really appreciate your insight from your side of the Tasman 1806 01:35:03,507 --> 01:35:07,347 Speaker 2: Lisa Alexander, their former Australian Diamonds. So by the sounds 1807 01:35:07,347 --> 01:35:10,507 Speaker 2: of it, well it's obvious she's a fan. Had to happen, 1808 01:35:10,587 --> 01:35:13,507 Speaker 2: she said, was always going to happen when the eligibility 1809 01:35:13,627 --> 01:35:17,307 Speaker 2: rules changed, that the Australian teams would snap up our 1810 01:35:17,387 --> 01:35:19,827 Speaker 2: best players. And as she said, there's still a lot 1811 01:35:19,907 --> 01:35:25,867 Speaker 2: of spots available for Australian players. For our best players, 1812 01:35:26,187 --> 01:35:29,467 Speaker 2: great right, great, great for them to get the opportunity 1813 01:35:29,547 --> 01:35:33,747 Speaker 2: to go over there and experience a highest standard of 1814 01:35:34,107 --> 01:35:36,947 Speaker 2: NIP all, let's be honest to also pick up a 1815 01:35:36,987 --> 01:35:39,787 Speaker 2: contract because there's still a little bit of uncertain about 1816 01:35:39,787 --> 01:35:42,667 Speaker 2: what's going to be happening back here. The next challenge 1817 01:35:42,707 --> 01:35:46,347 Speaker 2: for New Zealand franchises and for NEPB on New Zealand 1818 01:35:46,387 --> 01:35:49,067 Speaker 2: is to make sure that our a m Z Premiership 1819 01:35:49,147 --> 01:35:53,427 Speaker 2: doesn't drop down a couple of notches. Inevitably it may 1820 01:35:53,547 --> 01:35:56,067 Speaker 2: well do with all of these players leaving, but they've 1821 01:35:56,067 --> 01:35:58,787 Speaker 2: got to find a way to keep it generating. At 1822 01:35:58,827 --> 01:36:00,747 Speaker 2: the bottom ends a couple of bits of news she 1823 01:36:00,787 --> 01:36:02,867 Speaker 2: might have caught up on today. A boost for the 1824 01:36:02,947 --> 01:36:07,667 Speaker 2: Southern Steel Kimmey Order pois ERNs mid quarter has resigned 1825 01:36:07,707 --> 01:36:09,867 Speaker 2: with them for the upcoming season, so that's good news. 1826 01:36:10,107 --> 01:36:13,787 Speaker 2: Tiana Matudo. Meantime, the Pulse shooter and former Silver Fern 1827 01:36:13,827 --> 01:36:17,827 Speaker 2: shooter has signed with the Birmingham Panthers in England's Netball 1828 01:36:17,907 --> 01:36:21,867 Speaker 2: Super League, so she has gone even further afield. Be 1829 01:36:22,107 --> 01:36:24,387 Speaker 2: very interesting to see what happens in terms of the 1830 01:36:24,427 --> 01:36:27,907 Speaker 2: ans at premiership and the shape of it in twenty 1831 01:36:27,987 --> 01:36:30,867 Speaker 2: twenty six. It's a coming up twenty past two. We'll 1832 01:36:30,867 --> 01:36:36,507 Speaker 2: go to the the Veilter Espanyah Cycling Grand Tour. Shortly 1833 01:36:36,947 --> 01:36:39,267 Speaker 2: just updating you on some live sport Farrah Palmer Cup 1834 01:36:39,427 --> 01:36:43,387 Speaker 2: Round three action. Tasman have beaten Tananaki forty eight twenty five. 1835 01:36:44,027 --> 01:36:47,147 Speaker 2: Early in the game between North Harbor and the Wellington 1836 01:36:47,507 --> 01:36:51,707 Speaker 2: Pride at Albany, the Pride Wellington lead North Harbor five 1837 01:36:51,747 --> 01:36:54,827 Speaker 2: to three after twelve minutes. It's a different story at 1838 01:36:54,907 --> 01:36:58,267 Speaker 2: Rugby Park in christ Church less than fifteen minutes gone 1839 01:36:58,307 --> 01:37:02,267 Speaker 2: and Canterbury already led Counties twenty eight nil twenty eight 1840 01:37:02,427 --> 01:37:06,507 Speaker 2: nil after fifteen minutes and Counties have a play are 1841 01:37:06,547 --> 01:37:08,427 Speaker 2: in the bin as well, which isn't helping them. So 1842 01:37:08,947 --> 01:37:11,667 Speaker 2: Canterbury off to a flyer there and if we transition 1843 01:37:11,747 --> 01:37:15,627 Speaker 2: across to the NPC, doubling as a ran fairly shield 1844 01:37:15,667 --> 01:37:18,507 Speaker 2: defense for Tartanuki early on in that game. Well, fifteen 1845 01:37:18,507 --> 01:37:22,267 Speaker 2: minute is gone now still scoreless. Still scoreless between Tutanucky 1846 01:37:22,347 --> 01:37:26,707 Speaker 2: and Wykatto. Fifteen minutes gone at Stadium Tartanuky in New Plymouth. 1847 01:37:27,467 --> 01:37:30,107 Speaker 2: We'll take a break after this. We're off to the 1848 01:37:30,227 --> 01:37:36,067 Speaker 2: start of the Welter Espanyard Grand Tour. Three key he 1849 01:37:36,107 --> 01:37:38,467 Speaker 2: was taking part. Dion Smith is one of them. He's 1850 01:37:38,507 --> 01:37:40,867 Speaker 2: going to preview the tour for us and his hopes 1851 01:37:41,227 --> 01:37:43,347 Speaker 2: in it when we come back. Start your journey today 1852 01:37:43,387 --> 01:37:45,867 Speaker 2: with a GJ Gardner Home. The team at GJ Gardner 1853 01:37:45,947 --> 01:37:49,227 Speaker 2: Homes are great supporters of sport, from grassroots through to 1854 01:37:49,307 --> 01:37:52,067 Speaker 2: the main stage. 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The eightieth edition of Love 1873 01:38:50,267 --> 01:38:54,267 Speaker 2: Welter Espanya gets under way tonight, departing from Turin in 1874 01:38:54,427 --> 01:38:57,587 Speaker 2: Italy before heading to Spain in the fourth stage. The 1875 01:38:57,707 --> 01:39:00,547 Speaker 2: race will feature Danish superstar Ewnis finger Gar in three 1876 01:39:00,627 --> 01:39:04,667 Speaker 2: key weeks, George Bennett for Israel Premier Tech, FinFisher Black 1877 01:39:04,747 --> 01:39:07,507 Speaker 2: for Red Bull, Bora Hands Grow and Dion Smith for 1878 01:39:07,827 --> 01:39:11,347 Speaker 2: Into Marchie a Vonti. Dion Smith is with us. You've 1879 01:39:11,387 --> 01:39:14,947 Speaker 2: done all three Grand Tours previously Deon Tour de France 1880 01:39:15,307 --> 01:39:18,507 Speaker 2: Zero to Tellia of Welter Hispania. What are the differences 1881 01:39:18,627 --> 01:39:22,187 Speaker 2: between the Welter and the other two Grand Tours? 1882 01:39:23,027 --> 01:39:24,907 Speaker 5: Yeah, each pretty unique. 1883 01:39:25,027 --> 01:39:27,707 Speaker 23: I mean the tour has a lot more sort of 1884 01:39:27,787 --> 01:39:30,627 Speaker 23: media attention, and you know, it's a bit more worldwide known, 1885 01:39:31,147 --> 01:39:35,227 Speaker 23: as you mentioned people that don't know cycling, and yeah, 1886 01:39:35,427 --> 01:39:37,507 Speaker 23: the Jero obviously is the first one of the year, 1887 01:39:37,667 --> 01:39:41,507 Speaker 23: so yeah, sort of brings a different energy and then 1888 01:39:41,587 --> 01:39:45,427 Speaker 23: the Welter it seems like a bit more relaxed and 1889 01:39:46,227 --> 01:39:49,627 Speaker 23: you know, kind of summer vibes. I guess it's the 1890 01:39:49,707 --> 01:39:53,187 Speaker 23: last shot for last Grand Tour for people to sort 1891 01:39:53,227 --> 01:39:53,907 Speaker 23: of show themselves. 1892 01:39:53,947 --> 01:39:56,907 Speaker 2: Really, you had a disappointing time in the Zero to 1893 01:39:56,987 --> 01:39:59,107 Speaker 2: tell you this year, having to abandon the race after 1894 01:39:59,227 --> 01:40:02,187 Speaker 2: crashing on the sixth stage. How do you reflect back 1895 01:40:02,227 --> 01:40:04,787 Speaker 2: on that and how keen are you to make amends here? 1896 01:40:05,347 --> 01:40:08,867 Speaker 23: Yeah, it's always just wanting to leave, especially so early on. 1897 01:40:10,907 --> 01:40:13,667 Speaker 23: But yeah, initially I wasn't actually supposed to be on 1898 01:40:13,747 --> 01:40:16,907 Speaker 23: the Welter, but yeah, I had to talk with my 1899 01:40:17,027 --> 01:40:19,107 Speaker 23: team and they were they were keen for me to 1900 01:40:19,187 --> 01:40:23,107 Speaker 23: come and my ship my shapes looking pretty good at 1901 01:40:23,147 --> 01:40:26,587 Speaker 23: the moment, so it's good to sort of try again, 1902 01:40:26,667 --> 01:40:31,147 Speaker 23: I guess, And yeah, well we'll see how it goes. 1903 01:40:31,187 --> 01:40:33,667 Speaker 23: We have a pretty good team here, We've got some 1904 01:40:33,867 --> 01:40:36,587 Speaker 23: some good options for stages. Yeah, looking forward to it. 1905 01:40:37,107 --> 01:40:40,187 Speaker 2: Just expand on that for us day on, because obviously, 1906 01:40:40,707 --> 01:40:42,307 Speaker 2: as you just said, it wasn't the plan to be 1907 01:40:42,427 --> 01:40:44,987 Speaker 2: here at the zero. Would you normally plan to do 1908 01:40:45,107 --> 01:40:47,387 Speaker 2: two Grand Tours in a year. I wouldn't imagine you would. 1909 01:40:47,787 --> 01:40:50,147 Speaker 2: So the crash and the zero meant the change of plan. 1910 01:40:50,187 --> 01:40:51,827 Speaker 2: You wouldn't normally do two in a year, would you. 1911 01:40:53,507 --> 01:40:54,787 Speaker 5: No, I wouldn't normally do two. 1912 01:40:54,987 --> 01:40:58,347 Speaker 23: It's some people do and some people like it, but 1913 01:40:58,787 --> 01:41:01,827 Speaker 23: for me, yeah, one's one's normally enough. Three weeks is 1914 01:41:01,907 --> 01:41:06,587 Speaker 23: quite long. But the plan and obviously. 1915 01:41:06,467 --> 01:41:09,227 Speaker 5: Needed six stages of the Yuro, so it wasn't too. 1916 01:41:09,587 --> 01:41:12,027 Speaker 23: Heavy on the BEE and I had a rest and 1917 01:41:12,267 --> 01:41:15,307 Speaker 23: built up and did a few other races, and yeah, 1918 01:41:15,307 --> 01:41:18,787 Speaker 23: I decided that I've come here, and yeah, there was 1919 01:41:18,787 --> 01:41:23,107 Speaker 23: a space space available for me to fill in, and. 1920 01:41:23,747 --> 01:41:26,827 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was a good fit for the team. So yeah, 1921 01:41:26,907 --> 01:41:28,707 Speaker 5: that was sort of the reasoning. 1922 01:41:29,107 --> 01:41:31,227 Speaker 2: So tell us about your role in the team, the 1923 01:41:31,307 --> 01:41:33,347 Speaker 2: spot that has opened for you. What is your role? 1924 01:41:33,507 --> 01:41:35,827 Speaker 2: You there to pick up stage wins, to help fight 1925 01:41:35,947 --> 01:41:37,307 Speaker 2: for general classification. 1926 01:41:38,467 --> 01:41:41,707 Speaker 23: Yeah, I guess more of a support. We have a sprinter, 1927 01:41:42,027 --> 01:41:46,027 Speaker 23: a Belgian guy, Ana Merits. He's pretty keen and his 1928 01:41:46,227 --> 01:41:49,787 Speaker 23: form's looking pretty good. So I've worked with him this 1929 01:41:50,027 --> 01:41:53,227 Speaker 23: year and I think he likes me sort of guiding 1930 01:41:53,307 --> 01:41:55,027 Speaker 23: him towards the end of the sprints. 1931 01:41:56,827 --> 01:41:59,267 Speaker 5: And yeah, if I get the opportunity myself. 1932 01:41:58,987 --> 01:42:01,987 Speaker 23: To get in a good breakaway, or if there's a 1933 01:42:02,067 --> 01:42:06,147 Speaker 23: sort of harder finish for me, and maybe you'll have 1934 01:42:06,147 --> 01:42:06,947 Speaker 23: an opportunity. 1935 01:42:07,187 --> 01:42:10,147 Speaker 5: So yeah, it's sort of a bit of a mixed role. 1936 01:42:10,867 --> 01:42:11,107 Speaker 7: Really. 1937 01:42:11,347 --> 01:42:14,547 Speaker 5: I can sort of do a bit of everything. So yeah, 1938 01:42:15,827 --> 01:42:16,667 Speaker 5: we'll see how it goes. 1939 01:42:16,747 --> 01:42:19,907 Speaker 23: And yeah, but like I say, help helping the sprints, 1940 01:42:19,947 --> 01:42:23,827 Speaker 23: And we've got a couple of good climbers that can 1941 01:42:23,907 --> 01:42:27,187 Speaker 23: get in sort of the harder hilly breakaways, so fucking 1942 01:42:27,267 --> 01:42:28,147 Speaker 23: support them as well. 1943 01:42:28,627 --> 01:42:32,667 Speaker 2: What if it, like Dionne racing, not necessarily to win yourself, 1944 01:42:32,787 --> 01:42:35,387 Speaker 2: but to help someone else win a stage or general 1945 01:42:35,467 --> 01:42:37,907 Speaker 2: classification or whatever it might be. Does that bring a 1946 01:42:38,027 --> 01:42:40,707 Speaker 2: certain degree of pride but also a feeling of being 1947 01:42:40,787 --> 01:42:43,907 Speaker 2: part of a team rather than just an individual cyclist. 1948 01:42:44,347 --> 01:42:44,907 Speaker 5: Yeah, it does. 1949 01:42:45,187 --> 01:42:49,227 Speaker 23: I mean, you know, younger me might have not thought 1950 01:42:49,267 --> 01:42:51,467 Speaker 23: the same, but sort of when you get older. 1951 01:42:51,307 --> 01:42:54,547 Speaker 5: And you realize sort of what goes around comes around, and. 1952 01:42:56,667 --> 01:42:59,107 Speaker 23: So like you say, yeah, it feels really good to 1953 01:42:59,187 --> 01:43:05,147 Speaker 23: help help a teammate and also watch them succeed. And yeah, 1954 01:43:05,267 --> 01:43:07,387 Speaker 23: if it's your opportunity to go for a result that 1955 01:43:07,547 --> 01:43:08,627 Speaker 23: you would hope they would do. 1956 01:43:08,667 --> 01:43:09,187 Speaker 5: The same thing. 1957 01:43:09,307 --> 01:43:13,147 Speaker 23: So yeah, it is more of a team sport than 1958 01:43:13,187 --> 01:43:14,867 Speaker 23: you think if you don't know much about cycling. 1959 01:43:14,987 --> 01:43:16,747 Speaker 5: So yeah, it's quite rewarding. 1960 01:43:16,947 --> 01:43:19,947 Speaker 2: You look at the field for this rice No Tada pagatca, 1961 01:43:20,027 --> 01:43:22,547 Speaker 2: but Joannis finger Gut is in the rice. You know, 1962 01:43:22,627 --> 01:43:27,147 Speaker 2: we're talking the apparitionial ons here of of cyclists around 1963 01:43:27,187 --> 01:43:29,667 Speaker 2: the world. What is it like in the Palaton when 1964 01:43:30,107 --> 01:43:32,387 Speaker 2: riders of their caliber are involved. 1965 01:43:33,747 --> 01:43:37,547 Speaker 23: Yeah, I mean it's it's different, Like sometimes I feel 1966 01:43:37,587 --> 01:43:39,507 Speaker 23: like I'm in a different sport to. 1967 01:43:41,027 --> 01:43:42,187 Speaker 5: Taday and Joanness. 1968 01:43:42,267 --> 01:43:46,427 Speaker 23: But yeah, they're just like a generational talent really and 1969 01:43:47,707 --> 01:43:49,747 Speaker 23: it is cool to see. It can be pretty annoying 1970 01:43:49,787 --> 01:43:54,027 Speaker 23: because they make the race pretty hard, but yeah, no, 1971 01:43:54,347 --> 01:43:58,667 Speaker 23: it's it's good to see like sort of their rivalry, 1972 01:43:58,747 --> 01:44:03,507 Speaker 23: I guess, so hopefully ving Guard someone can sort of 1973 01:44:03,627 --> 01:44:06,667 Speaker 23: rival ving Guard it as well as I'm sure I'm 1974 01:44:06,667 --> 01:44:10,107 Speaker 23: sure there'll be a couple other guys that will shake 1975 01:44:10,187 --> 01:44:10,587 Speaker 23: things up. 1976 01:44:10,707 --> 01:44:12,107 Speaker 5: So yeah, you never know. 1977 01:44:12,187 --> 01:44:14,467 Speaker 23: It's three weeks, so you've got to have quite a 1978 01:44:14,467 --> 01:44:16,267 Speaker 23: bit of luck on your side and the strong teams 1979 01:44:16,307 --> 01:44:20,747 Speaker 23: that and the world is usually sort of gives you 1980 01:44:20,787 --> 01:44:26,907 Speaker 23: the opportunity for a breakaway and things like that. So yeah, opportunists, 1981 01:44:26,947 --> 01:44:30,627 Speaker 23: I should say, So hopefully it's not all a lot 1982 01:44:30,667 --> 01:44:32,787 Speaker 23: of jumper visma. 1983 01:44:33,747 --> 01:44:37,427 Speaker 5: Yeah, and hopefully we can find our opportunity somewhere. 1984 01:44:37,707 --> 01:44:40,667 Speaker 2: And as I mentioned, three Kiwi's writing yourself and the 1985 01:44:40,747 --> 01:44:44,147 Speaker 2: two Nelsonians Fan Fisher Black George Bennett also on this tour, 1986 01:44:44,187 --> 01:44:45,427 Speaker 2: how do you expect those guys to go? 1987 01:44:46,307 --> 01:44:46,507 Speaker 22: Yeah? 1988 01:44:46,627 --> 01:44:46,827 Speaker 10: Good? 1989 01:44:47,907 --> 01:44:51,027 Speaker 23: Yeah, I mean George obviously has been around for a 1990 01:44:51,107 --> 01:44:55,187 Speaker 23: long time and he's still I am good mates with him, 1991 01:44:55,187 --> 01:44:59,947 Speaker 23: and he's still motivated as ever and going going reasonably well. 1992 01:45:00,067 --> 01:45:04,787 Speaker 23: So and then yeah, just another young talent coming out 1993 01:45:04,827 --> 01:45:09,267 Speaker 23: of ENDZ, which is really cool to see. And yeah, 1994 01:45:09,627 --> 01:45:13,027 Speaker 23: I could imagine they'll both be up there in a 1995 01:45:13,067 --> 01:45:16,027 Speaker 23: few stages and I'm not sure quite sure what their 1996 01:45:16,107 --> 01:45:20,747 Speaker 23: roles are, but for sure Finn I could imagine we'll get. 1997 01:45:20,707 --> 01:45:22,347 Speaker 5: Up for a stage. 1998 01:45:22,587 --> 01:45:24,387 Speaker 2: And there are quite a few key we's involved on 1999 01:45:24,547 --> 01:45:26,907 Speaker 2: the world too, And now we've had the opportunity to 2000 01:45:26,947 --> 01:45:29,667 Speaker 2: speak to a couple of them recently, Corbyn Strong, Sam 2001 01:45:29,747 --> 01:45:33,827 Speaker 2: Buley another one mentioned obviously Finn and George and yourself. 2002 01:45:34,227 --> 01:45:36,067 Speaker 2: Do you keep it in touch with these guys on 2003 01:45:36,147 --> 01:45:38,147 Speaker 2: a regular basis outside of events or is it just 2004 01:45:38,187 --> 01:45:40,387 Speaker 2: when you kind of bump into them at the events 2005 01:45:40,427 --> 01:45:41,107 Speaker 2: that you say today? 2006 01:45:42,427 --> 01:45:45,747 Speaker 23: No, no, yeah, Corbyn, I'm also good mates with them. 2007 01:45:47,827 --> 01:45:50,987 Speaker 23: We go train together and sort of hang out off. 2008 01:45:50,907 --> 01:45:51,587 Speaker 5: The bike as well. 2009 01:45:52,147 --> 01:45:54,627 Speaker 23: And also Burely, I was obviously teammates with him and 2010 01:45:54,867 --> 01:45:57,067 Speaker 23: I've learn him for a long time. Obviously he's a 2011 01:45:57,187 --> 01:45:59,907 Speaker 23: director now so it's a bit different. Can't really get 2012 01:45:59,947 --> 01:46:02,947 Speaker 23: up for a training ride. But no, no, we asked 2013 01:46:02,987 --> 01:46:04,987 Speaker 23: he was trying to stick together a little bit. And 2014 01:46:05,707 --> 01:46:08,467 Speaker 23: where are the or and and Andora or in girona 2015 01:46:08,707 --> 01:46:11,627 Speaker 23: sort of a mixed between both, So yeah, there's always 2016 01:46:12,307 --> 01:46:15,787 Speaker 23: Kiwis floating around. So it's it's quite cool, sort of 2017 01:46:15,827 --> 01:46:18,627 Speaker 23: a home away from home and something to relate to 2018 01:46:19,187 --> 01:46:20,147 Speaker 23: and if you. 2019 01:46:20,267 --> 01:46:23,387 Speaker 2: Type your name into Google, you get about one hundred 2020 01:46:23,467 --> 01:46:26,987 Speaker 2: pages of you nearly getting taken out by a goat 2021 01:46:27,867 --> 01:46:30,307 Speaker 2: during the hero to tell you what happened, man. 2022 01:46:31,187 --> 01:46:35,227 Speaker 5: I mean, any media is good media. I guess it 2023 01:46:35,267 --> 01:46:35,907 Speaker 5: was quite funny. 2024 01:46:35,987 --> 01:46:38,267 Speaker 23: But I think Corbyn got sticking on that stage and 2025 01:46:38,347 --> 01:46:42,267 Speaker 23: I think I got more media attention than him, more interviews. 2026 01:46:42,427 --> 01:46:44,107 Speaker 17: But yeah, it was. 2027 01:46:44,267 --> 01:46:46,107 Speaker 23: It was just crazy what people want to see, really, 2028 01:46:46,147 --> 01:46:46,427 Speaker 23: isn't it? 2029 01:46:48,067 --> 01:46:50,907 Speaker 5: Not really the bike race but a goat nearly taking 2030 01:46:50,987 --> 01:46:55,347 Speaker 5: someone out, So yeah, it's just one of those things 2031 01:46:55,427 --> 01:46:58,147 Speaker 5: and sort of just blew up and yeah, it was 2032 01:46:58,187 --> 01:46:58,787 Speaker 5: a bit crazy. 2033 01:46:58,827 --> 01:47:00,067 Speaker 1: Really is that normal? 2034 01:47:00,387 --> 01:47:00,587 Speaker 8: Though? 2035 01:47:01,627 --> 01:47:03,587 Speaker 2: Livestock on the course, oh. 2036 01:47:03,627 --> 01:47:06,627 Speaker 5: You get I guess you do get live stock. I 2037 01:47:06,707 --> 01:47:08,587 Speaker 5: mean maybe more wild dogs or something. 2038 01:47:08,667 --> 01:47:11,387 Speaker 23: But yeah, I think it was just more funny because 2039 01:47:11,387 --> 01:47:15,187 Speaker 23: it was a goat and sort of jumping around. But yeah, 2040 01:47:15,227 --> 01:47:17,387 Speaker 23: I mean not often you might get a deer or 2041 01:47:17,507 --> 01:47:20,667 Speaker 23: I don't know, a horse maybe, but yeah, it's not 2042 01:47:20,867 --> 01:47:24,827 Speaker 23: very very Austen so it's quite unique. 2043 01:47:24,867 --> 01:47:25,147 Speaker 5: I guess. 2044 01:47:25,267 --> 01:47:26,707 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it was. Well. I hope the race 2045 01:47:26,787 --> 01:47:30,027 Speaker 2: course in the Jura in the Velta Espana is clear 2046 01:47:30,107 --> 01:47:35,067 Speaker 2: of livestock and you have an excellent Grand Tour ahead thereon. 2047 01:47:35,107 --> 01:47:36,467 Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the time for a chat to its 2048 01:47:36,467 --> 01:47:38,507 Speaker 2: making all the best, Thanks so much, No, thank you. 2049 01:47:38,627 --> 01:47:43,507 Speaker 2: That's Dion Smith, one of three kiwis involved in Laberta Hispania, 2050 01:47:43,547 --> 01:47:46,307 Speaker 2: which gets under way tonight. Fin Fisher Black and George 2051 01:47:46,347 --> 01:47:50,987 Speaker 2: Bennett the other two coming up twenty six away from 2052 01:47:51,067 --> 01:47:54,387 Speaker 2: three Darren Baslely all whites coach shortly, but time to 2053 01:47:54,467 --> 01:47:58,107 Speaker 2: play a sporting chance with the tab. I'm going to 2054 01:47:58,147 --> 01:48:00,227 Speaker 2: offer you the chance of three bets or the choice 2055 01:48:00,307 --> 01:48:04,387 Speaker 2: rather of three bets short evens, all long. You decide 2056 01:48:04,427 --> 01:48:07,227 Speaker 2: which one you want and we will place a one 2057 01:48:07,307 --> 01:48:10,587 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars bonus bet on your behalf if 2058 01:48:10,627 --> 01:48:13,987 Speaker 2: it comes home. The winnings minus the initial one fifty 2059 01:48:14,507 --> 01:48:18,187 Speaker 2: are all yours. You must be over eighteen call now, 2060 01:48:18,347 --> 01:48:21,227 Speaker 2: oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighteen now all three 2061 01:48:21,347 --> 01:48:25,867 Speaker 2: bets one. Last week, despite both me and our winted 2062 01:48:25,987 --> 01:48:28,947 Speaker 2: Jason laughing off the long odds option. The long odds 2063 01:48:29,107 --> 01:48:32,347 Speaker 2: was for Australia to beat South Africa thirteen plus. It 2064 01:48:32,387 --> 01:48:35,547 Speaker 2: would have earned him two and a half grand. Instead, 2065 01:48:35,627 --> 01:48:38,587 Speaker 2: Jason picked Sunderland to beat west Ham, which also came 2066 01:48:38,627 --> 01:48:40,827 Speaker 2: home he picked up three hundred and thirty. Even if 2067 01:48:40,867 --> 01:48:42,947 Speaker 2: he had gone short and picked the All Blacks to 2068 01:48:42,987 --> 01:48:44,867 Speaker 2: beat Argentina thirteen plus, he would have won just over 2069 01:48:44,907 --> 01:48:46,587 Speaker 2: two hundred. So if you want to have a go 2070 01:48:46,907 --> 01:48:49,587 Speaker 2: at a sporting chance with the tab o eight hundred 2071 01:48:49,787 --> 01:48:51,387 Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty. 2072 01:48:52,387 --> 01:48:56,427 Speaker 1: The biggest season sport are on Weekend Sport with Jason 2073 01:48:56,507 --> 01:49:00,587 Speaker 1: Pain and GJ. Gunnomes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder 2074 01:49:00,747 --> 01:49:01,587 Speaker 1: news Dogs they'd be. 2075 01:49:03,667 --> 01:49:06,147 Speaker 8: It's time for a sporting chance thanks to. 2076 01:49:08,587 --> 01:49:13,627 Speaker 2: Yes, it is twenty two away from three. Simon, Hi mate, 2077 01:49:14,667 --> 01:49:18,267 Speaker 2: Hey pony, very good Simon. I'm going to give you 2078 01:49:18,427 --> 01:49:23,547 Speaker 2: three options from the tab We've got them short, evens 2079 01:49:23,907 --> 01:49:26,827 Speaker 2: or long, so you know, I'm not going to say 2080 01:49:27,187 --> 01:49:30,267 Speaker 2: a sure thing, but something which is likely, something which 2081 01:49:30,347 --> 01:49:31,707 Speaker 2: is kind of a bit of a coin toss, and 2082 01:49:31,787 --> 01:49:34,387 Speaker 2: something which feels unlikely. You just have to choose which 2083 01:49:34,467 --> 01:49:36,907 Speaker 2: one you want and we'll place the bonus bet for you, 2084 01:49:36,987 --> 01:49:39,227 Speaker 2: the one hundred and fifty dollars bonus bet, and if 2085 01:49:39,227 --> 01:49:41,347 Speaker 2: it happens, we'll take the one fifty off and give 2086 01:49:41,387 --> 01:49:42,787 Speaker 2: you the rest of the cash. How does that sound 2087 01:49:43,947 --> 01:49:44,867 Speaker 2: sounds really good to me? 2088 01:49:44,987 --> 01:49:45,187 Speaker 12: Mate. 2089 01:49:45,627 --> 01:49:48,347 Speaker 2: All right, all right, here are the options, all right, 2090 01:49:48,507 --> 01:49:51,947 Speaker 2: so listen closely. Your three options. Short Now, Andy's given 2091 01:49:52,027 --> 01:49:54,307 Speaker 2: all of these names, which I really like. So the 2092 01:49:54,427 --> 01:49:56,427 Speaker 2: short option is the please, for the love of God, 2093 01:49:56,587 --> 01:50:00,107 Speaker 2: just beat this damn team Special. It's Gold Coast Titans 2094 01:50:00,107 --> 01:50:03,987 Speaker 2: against the Warriors. The Warriors to win tonight is paying 2095 01:50:04,027 --> 01:50:06,267 Speaker 2: a dollar seventy three. So if the Warriors win to 2096 01:50:06,547 --> 01:50:08,907 Speaker 2: if you choose this and the Warriors win, you would 2097 01:50:09,107 --> 01:50:12,707 Speaker 2: win one hundred and nine dollars fifty. That is your 2098 01:50:12,867 --> 01:50:16,987 Speaker 2: short option, all right. Middle, It's called the who else 2099 01:50:17,027 --> 01:50:21,227 Speaker 2: were you honestly expecting? Special? It's Manchester City Tottenham in 2100 01:50:21,307 --> 01:50:25,427 Speaker 2: the Premier League Erling Harland to be the first goal scorer. 2101 01:50:25,987 --> 01:50:28,907 Speaker 2: It's paying three seventy five. If he scores the first goal, 2102 01:50:29,067 --> 01:50:33,027 Speaker 2: you would win four hundred and twelve dollars fifty. All right, 2103 01:50:33,787 --> 01:50:37,787 Speaker 2: What and the long option, the You've got to be 2104 01:50:37,947 --> 01:50:41,707 Speaker 2: mad to think it'll happen again? Special? Spring Box Wallabies 2105 01:50:42,347 --> 01:50:47,627 Speaker 2: Wallaby's thirteen plus. It's paying fifteen dollars. You would win 2106 01:50:47,867 --> 01:50:51,067 Speaker 2: two thousand, one hundred. Bear in mind, Simon that this 2107 01:50:51,267 --> 01:50:55,667 Speaker 2: bet came in last week. Jason Winner last week didn't 2108 01:50:55,707 --> 01:50:57,787 Speaker 2: pick it. He would have won two and a half grand, 2109 01:50:57,827 --> 01:51:00,267 Speaker 2: you'd win two thy one hundred, but you'd need the 2110 01:51:00,267 --> 01:51:03,787 Speaker 2: Wallabees to beat South Africa by thirteen plus, so that 2111 01:51:04,547 --> 01:51:06,627 Speaker 2: Arling Harland to be first goal scorer for City again 2112 01:51:06,707 --> 01:51:09,907 Speaker 2: Spurs or the Warriors to beat the Titans. Which one 2113 01:51:09,907 --> 01:51:10,587 Speaker 2: are you going to go with? 2114 01:51:12,507 --> 01:51:14,787 Speaker 3: We'll we'll get along on those Walla Bees, go. 2115 01:51:15,027 --> 01:51:15,987 Speaker 2: On, Simon? 2116 01:51:16,787 --> 01:51:17,067 Speaker 7: Why not? 2117 01:51:17,947 --> 01:51:18,427 Speaker 3: Well? Why not? 2118 01:51:19,427 --> 01:51:19,867 Speaker 12: Pretty good? 2119 01:51:19,947 --> 01:51:24,947 Speaker 2: So yeah, yep, it's not your money again, will it? 2120 01:51:26,587 --> 01:51:29,147 Speaker 9: My sister's birthday today, so happy birthday and all that, 2121 01:51:29,307 --> 01:51:32,067 Speaker 9: you know, and yeah, why not, but we shoulday, we'll 2122 01:51:32,107 --> 01:51:32,547 Speaker 9: do nicely. 2123 01:51:33,027 --> 01:51:35,067 Speaker 2: I love it, Simon, I love it all right. We're 2124 01:51:35,067 --> 01:51:37,027 Speaker 2: going to place the one hundred and fifty dollars bonus 2125 01:51:37,107 --> 01:51:39,107 Speaker 2: bet on the Wallabes to beat the spring Box by 2126 01:51:39,187 --> 01:51:43,467 Speaker 2: thirteen plus tomorrow morning. If it happens, two one hundred 2127 01:51:43,507 --> 01:51:45,787 Speaker 2: dollars cash is yours. You can spend some of it 2128 01:51:45,867 --> 01:51:47,107 Speaker 2: on your mum and your sister if you like, for 2129 01:51:47,147 --> 01:51:48,907 Speaker 2: their birthdays, or you could use it yourself made. But 2130 01:51:48,947 --> 01:51:51,187 Speaker 2: we'll place the bet and hope that it happens. 2131 01:51:52,227 --> 01:51:54,627 Speaker 3: Alrighty, thank you very much, appreciate all that. 2132 01:51:55,227 --> 01:51:57,747 Speaker 2: No, appreciate you. Ringing and Simon hold there and he's 2133 01:51:57,747 --> 01:51:59,347 Speaker 2: just going to make sure he's got all your details. 2134 01:51:59,467 --> 01:52:01,867 Speaker 2: We'll get the bet placed and if it happens that 2135 01:52:02,067 --> 01:52:04,867 Speaker 2: money is all yours, we'll do it all again next week. 2136 01:52:05,267 --> 01:52:09,387 Speaker 2: Thanks to our mates at theab AS always bet responsibly. 2137 01:52:10,347 --> 01:52:12,547 Speaker 2: The All White squad to face the Soccaro's home and 2138 01:52:12,587 --> 01:52:15,507 Speaker 2: away next month has been confirmed. The main feature is 2139 01:52:15,547 --> 01:52:18,827 Speaker 2: the return of Ryan Thomas, who hasn't played for New 2140 01:52:18,907 --> 01:52:22,307 Speaker 2: Zealand since twenty nineteen. He has recovered from a long 2141 01:52:22,427 --> 01:52:25,587 Speaker 2: term injury which has severely limited his playing time over 2142 01:52:25,667 --> 01:52:29,547 Speaker 2: the past few seasons, but he has had consistent game 2143 01:52:29,627 --> 01:52:31,787 Speaker 2: minutes in the last year or so with his Dutch 2144 01:52:31,867 --> 01:52:35,027 Speaker 2: club PEX Waller. He also captains that team. So Ryan 2145 01:52:35,107 --> 01:52:37,547 Speaker 2: Thomas back in the squad. The games are in Canberra 2146 01:52:37,787 --> 01:52:40,667 Speaker 2: on the night of Friday September the fifth, and at 2147 01:52:40,747 --> 01:52:43,467 Speaker 2: go Media Stadium in Auckland on the night of Tuesday 2148 01:52:43,867 --> 01:52:47,467 Speaker 2: September the ninth. All Whites head coach Darren Baisley as 2149 01:52:47,507 --> 01:52:49,827 Speaker 2: whe us let's start with Ryan Thomas, can we base? 2150 01:52:49,867 --> 01:52:52,507 Speaker 2: How nice is it to name him again in an 2151 01:52:52,547 --> 01:52:53,267 Speaker 2: All White squad? 2152 01:52:53,747 --> 01:52:56,067 Speaker 20: Hey planning? Good to catch up? Yeah? I mean that 2153 01:52:56,347 --> 01:52:58,387 Speaker 20: it's awesome for us to have Ryan back in the 2154 01:52:58,467 --> 01:53:00,867 Speaker 20: shirt and in the squad. You know, he's someone I've 2155 01:53:00,947 --> 01:53:03,867 Speaker 20: kept in touch with for the last five or six years. Really, 2156 01:53:03,907 --> 01:53:06,587 Speaker 20: I've known Ryan since he was young. So it's it's 2157 01:53:06,627 --> 01:53:08,667 Speaker 20: been a shame what he's gone through at his club. 2158 01:53:08,747 --> 01:53:11,387 Speaker 20: You know, he reached some heights over there, and you know, 2159 01:53:11,587 --> 01:53:14,547 Speaker 20: has had these injuries that he's been battling. And since 2160 01:53:14,587 --> 01:53:16,947 Speaker 20: I've been you know, talking to him around the All Whites, 2161 01:53:16,987 --> 01:53:19,747 Speaker 20: he's always he's never ruled it out, and he's always 2162 01:53:19,747 --> 01:53:21,787 Speaker 20: said he just needed to have that good six months 2163 01:53:21,867 --> 01:53:24,867 Speaker 20: injury free, feel fit and strong again before you know, 2164 01:53:24,987 --> 01:53:27,947 Speaker 20: contemplating taking on extra loading. And yeah, here we are 2165 01:53:28,067 --> 01:53:30,747 Speaker 20: now and he's he's feeling really good and fit and strong, 2166 01:53:30,867 --> 01:53:32,587 Speaker 20: and yeah, he's excited to come back in. 2167 01:53:32,987 --> 01:53:35,627 Speaker 2: Was there any thought perhaps to bringing him in the 2168 01:53:35,747 --> 01:53:38,107 Speaker 2: next window, which is up in Europe, doesn't have to 2169 01:53:38,187 --> 01:53:40,987 Speaker 2: travel so far, gives another month, or were you very 2170 01:53:41,067 --> 01:53:43,067 Speaker 2: keen and was he keen to be in for this 2171 01:53:43,627 --> 01:53:45,467 Speaker 2: this two game series against the Aussies. 2172 01:53:46,027 --> 01:53:47,987 Speaker 20: Now, we've been very open with Ryan, you know, and 2173 01:53:48,027 --> 01:53:50,267 Speaker 20: I've always said to him, when you're ready, you know, 2174 01:53:50,547 --> 01:53:52,947 Speaker 20: we'll pick you. You know, so it's it's not really 2175 01:53:53,027 --> 01:53:55,067 Speaker 20: been a case of when do we want him? You know, 2176 01:53:55,147 --> 01:53:58,027 Speaker 20: we've always wanted him, so we're really waiting for him 2177 01:53:58,107 --> 01:54:01,307 Speaker 20: to jump. And like I do before most tours, you 2178 01:54:01,547 --> 01:54:04,387 Speaker 20: ring him, catch up with him. How's it going, you know, 2179 01:54:04,947 --> 01:54:06,987 Speaker 20: And then I sort of pose the quest and again 2180 01:54:07,307 --> 01:54:09,307 Speaker 20: all right, I sort of say to you know what 2181 01:54:09,347 --> 01:54:10,707 Speaker 20: I'm going to ask you, and he's. 2182 01:54:10,627 --> 01:54:11,707 Speaker 3: Like, okay, yeah, cool. 2183 01:54:11,787 --> 01:54:13,667 Speaker 20: And this time was different, you know, he was in 2184 01:54:13,947 --> 01:54:16,907 Speaker 20: a way better place. He said, you know, I'm ready. 2185 01:54:16,947 --> 01:54:19,747 Speaker 20: I think I'm ready. So I said, okay, cool, Well 2186 01:54:19,747 --> 01:54:21,907 Speaker 20: here's your options. All We've got tour coming up in 2187 01:54:21,947 --> 01:54:24,587 Speaker 20: September Australia home and away, but we do have Europe 2188 01:54:24,827 --> 01:54:27,867 Speaker 20: in October with two good games in Europe, and I 2189 01:54:28,107 --> 01:54:30,827 Speaker 20: personally also thought that would be a good option for him. 2190 01:54:31,547 --> 01:54:33,667 Speaker 20: So he said, I have thinks about that, and you know, 2191 01:54:33,707 --> 01:54:35,467 Speaker 20: I'm keen to come back in and you know, rang 2192 01:54:35,547 --> 01:54:37,547 Speaker 20: me back the next the next morning and said, you 2193 01:54:37,627 --> 01:54:40,507 Speaker 20: know what, I've never played against Australia. I'm really keen. 2194 01:54:40,627 --> 01:54:43,667 Speaker 20: I want him and yeah, he's so he's coming back 2195 01:54:43,707 --> 01:54:46,107 Speaker 20: for these games and hopefully, you know that will that 2196 01:54:46,107 --> 01:54:47,427 Speaker 20: will be him back in the fold. 2197 01:54:47,547 --> 01:54:49,227 Speaker 2: Great to see his name back on the team sheet. 2198 01:54:49,227 --> 01:54:51,587 Speaker 2: A couple of other players to ask you about James McGarry. 2199 01:54:51,707 --> 01:54:54,667 Speaker 2: He hasn't played for New Zealand since his sole appearance 2200 01:54:54,707 --> 01:54:56,787 Speaker 2: actually twenty nineteen, so he's been out for a while 2201 01:54:56,787 --> 01:54:59,067 Speaker 2: as well. I know he's been in and around squads. 2202 01:54:59,347 --> 01:55:02,467 Speaker 20: Tell us about his inclusion, Well, I didn't know it 2203 01:55:02,547 --> 01:55:04,947 Speaker 20: was that long since he'd played, but because we tried 2204 01:55:05,027 --> 01:55:07,307 Speaker 20: to pick him couple of years ago when he was 2205 01:55:07,307 --> 01:55:10,027 Speaker 20: at Aberdeen and you know, called him up to the 2206 01:55:10,067 --> 01:55:12,627 Speaker 20: squad and then unfortunately he just got injured beforehand and 2207 01:55:12,707 --> 01:55:14,307 Speaker 20: had to pull out. So that was a shame. And 2208 01:55:14,827 --> 01:55:16,307 Speaker 20: you know, he's another one I've known for a long 2209 01:55:16,387 --> 01:55:18,867 Speaker 20: time and we've tracked him in Scotland and in Greece 2210 01:55:18,987 --> 01:55:21,427 Speaker 20: and you know now he's moved to Australia and we 2211 01:55:21,547 --> 01:55:23,667 Speaker 20: just felt that this is a really good opportunity to 2212 01:55:23,787 --> 01:55:25,987 Speaker 20: bring him in have a look at him closer. You know, 2213 01:55:26,067 --> 01:55:29,507 Speaker 20: he is local, which is handy. You know, we've got 2214 01:55:29,547 --> 01:55:31,707 Speaker 20: some players in that sort of left back position. In 2215 01:55:31,987 --> 01:55:34,867 Speaker 20: regards to Francis and Libby, you know that can play 2216 01:55:34,907 --> 01:55:37,787 Speaker 20: different positions. You know they've both played as a left winger, 2217 01:55:37,867 --> 01:55:40,627 Speaker 20: for us at different windows, and you know Libby has 2218 01:55:40,667 --> 01:55:43,507 Speaker 20: played it center back for Empli as well. Plus Libby 2219 01:55:43,667 --> 01:55:46,827 Speaker 20: is carrying a bit of a hamstring that he's sort 2220 01:55:46,827 --> 01:55:48,707 Speaker 20: of working through at the moment, so we thought that 2221 01:55:48,867 --> 01:55:50,827 Speaker 20: was a great opportunity to bring James in. 2222 01:55:51,147 --> 01:55:52,507 Speaker 4: You know, he can have a look back with the 2223 01:55:52,547 --> 01:55:53,947 Speaker 4: squad and we can have a good look at him. 2224 01:55:54,427 --> 01:55:57,627 Speaker 2: Chris what is there? Of course, we saw him named 2225 01:55:57,667 --> 01:55:59,267 Speaker 2: in the p f A Team of the Season earlier 2226 01:55:59,307 --> 01:56:01,627 Speaker 2: this week. How cool was it for you to see him, 2227 01:56:01,987 --> 01:56:04,067 Speaker 2: you know, and photos and footage of him up on 2228 01:56:04,107 --> 01:56:07,187 Speaker 2: a stage with the likes of Muhammed Salah, Virgil Van Dyke, 2229 01:56:07,227 --> 01:56:09,667 Speaker 2: Declan Rice. You know here he is Chris Wood one 2230 01:56:09,707 --> 01:56:10,027 Speaker 2: of ours. 2231 01:56:10,827 --> 01:56:13,707 Speaker 20: Yeah, there's there's a Kiwi's mixing it with the big boys. 2232 01:56:14,067 --> 01:56:17,147 Speaker 20: It's amazing. You know, I've been saying it all well 2233 01:56:17,227 --> 01:56:19,307 Speaker 20: for a long time now, but you know, specifically the 2234 01:56:19,427 --> 01:56:22,147 Speaker 20: last season, what he did last season in regards to 2235 01:56:22,307 --> 01:56:25,107 Speaker 20: goals in that league is just amazing and it might 2236 01:56:25,187 --> 01:56:27,347 Speaker 20: be something that we never see again, you know, having 2237 01:56:27,387 --> 01:56:30,027 Speaker 20: a Kiwi doing that and making Team of the season. 2238 01:56:30,467 --> 01:56:33,867 Speaker 20: Hopefully we do hopefully he does it again, you know, 2239 01:56:34,107 --> 01:56:36,627 Speaker 20: but you know, hopefully we get more coming through, but yeah, 2240 01:56:36,827 --> 01:56:39,707 Speaker 20: what an amazing achievement last year and what he's just 2241 01:56:39,827 --> 01:56:41,787 Speaker 20: done there, and then to start the season with two 2242 01:56:41,867 --> 01:56:44,547 Speaker 20: goals because he is He's told me I want to 2243 01:56:44,587 --> 01:56:46,587 Speaker 20: beat it. He wants to beat what he did last year, 2244 01:56:46,667 --> 01:56:48,947 Speaker 20: and what a way to start, you know, two goals 2245 01:56:49,027 --> 01:56:51,867 Speaker 20: opening day, you know, and he's got goals for us 2246 01:56:51,947 --> 01:56:53,907 Speaker 20: in the World Cup. You know, he's very close to 2247 01:56:54,507 --> 01:56:57,787 Speaker 20: breaking appearance records, he's already broke goal scoring records. 2248 01:56:57,907 --> 01:57:00,467 Speaker 11: So yeah, he's doing very well. 2249 01:57:00,787 --> 01:57:02,587 Speaker 2: We know he's always going to be their base. And 2250 01:57:02,867 --> 01:57:06,587 Speaker 2: in the past, you've had similar types of players to him, 2251 01:57:06,587 --> 01:57:08,547 Speaker 2: and you're all white squads, the likes of Max Marta, 2252 01:57:08,707 --> 01:57:11,507 Speaker 2: Ben Wayne, those sorts of players, neither of those who 2253 01:57:11,547 --> 01:57:15,547 Speaker 2: are on this Are you starting to think that your 2254 01:57:15,587 --> 01:57:17,907 Speaker 2: attacking options are now going to be players who aren't 2255 01:57:17,947 --> 01:57:20,587 Speaker 2: the same as Chris Wood because it's either Chris Wood 2256 01:57:20,627 --> 01:57:21,987 Speaker 2: in that role or nobody in that role. 2257 01:57:23,267 --> 01:57:25,347 Speaker 20: Well, I mean, we'll always have somebody in that role, 2258 01:57:25,947 --> 01:57:28,707 Speaker 20: but yeah, I don't think we can look to replicate Woods. 2259 01:57:28,747 --> 01:57:32,267 Speaker 20: He you know, he's what he is, and Max matter 2260 01:57:32,347 --> 01:57:34,347 Speaker 20: and Ben Wayne are different and different to each other. 2261 01:57:34,507 --> 01:57:36,867 Speaker 20: But yeah, I think you're right what you're saying. We've 2262 01:57:37,427 --> 01:57:40,307 Speaker 20: I mean, Costa has been the most recent replacement and 2263 01:57:40,387 --> 01:57:43,987 Speaker 20: he is a different type of forward, but offers are 2264 01:57:44,027 --> 01:57:46,027 Speaker 20: something different as well. So I don't think we're trying 2265 01:57:46,027 --> 01:57:49,467 Speaker 20: to replace Woodsey. But you know, we've got lots of 2266 01:57:49,507 --> 01:57:51,347 Speaker 20: good options in there, and you know, for this tour, 2267 01:57:52,027 --> 01:57:54,587 Speaker 20: Ben Wayne is young, he's a long term option, and 2268 01:57:54,707 --> 01:57:56,187 Speaker 20: for this one, you know, we looked at him. He's 2269 01:57:56,307 --> 01:57:59,067 Speaker 20: just joined Port Vale. They don't stop for the window, 2270 01:57:59,547 --> 01:58:01,467 Speaker 20: and we looked at why would we bring him all 2271 01:58:01,507 --> 01:58:03,947 Speaker 20: the way from England to New Zealand. You know, if 2272 01:58:04,027 --> 01:58:07,107 Speaker 20: we're saying that Costa's the first replacement for woods right now, 2273 01:58:07,787 --> 01:58:11,787 Speaker 20: but Ben, you know, Wayno's still a long term, really 2274 01:58:11,867 --> 01:58:14,307 Speaker 20: good potential option for us, as Max Matter is, and 2275 01:58:14,347 --> 01:58:16,307 Speaker 20: you know, and there's other players involved in that as well. 2276 01:58:16,507 --> 01:58:18,787 Speaker 20: So I think every tour is different and we look 2277 01:58:18,827 --> 01:58:21,227 Speaker 20: at it from an individual point of view. What's best 2278 01:58:21,267 --> 01:58:23,627 Speaker 20: for this player now, And we've done that really for 2279 01:58:23,867 --> 01:58:25,867 Speaker 20: Ben Way and for Matt Garbett and for Tommy Smith, 2280 01:58:25,947 --> 01:58:27,547 Speaker 20: you know, for this specific tour. 2281 01:58:27,907 --> 01:58:29,467 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've alluded to a couple of players I want 2282 01:58:29,467 --> 01:58:31,107 Speaker 2: to ask about it. Actually met Garbett. He's got a 2283 01:58:31,147 --> 01:58:33,067 Speaker 2: new club now. I had a bit of a challenging 2284 01:58:33,147 --> 01:58:35,867 Speaker 2: time the back end of his stunt at neck Rada. 2285 01:58:35,947 --> 01:58:39,227 Speaker 2: He's at League one Peterborough. Now, what has your message 2286 01:58:39,267 --> 01:58:42,547 Speaker 2: been to Matt Garbett in the last few months while 2287 01:58:42,587 --> 01:58:44,947 Speaker 2: he's been looking for a club and now that he's 2288 01:58:44,987 --> 01:58:45,467 Speaker 2: found one. 2289 01:58:46,787 --> 01:58:49,147 Speaker 20: You know, we have to remember that Matt's is a 2290 01:58:49,267 --> 01:58:52,347 Speaker 20: young man. He's still very young, so we've supported him 2291 01:58:52,347 --> 01:58:54,147 Speaker 20: all the way through. You know, when he wasn't playing 2292 01:58:54,187 --> 01:58:56,547 Speaker 20: at mac you know, we picked him for the March 2293 01:58:56,627 --> 01:58:59,427 Speaker 20: and we picked him in June. He's a good player, 2294 01:58:59,467 --> 01:59:00,427 Speaker 20: he's a very good player. 2295 01:59:00,987 --> 01:59:01,587 Speaker 11: He is fit. 2296 01:59:01,707 --> 01:59:04,307 Speaker 20: You know, it wasn't ideal. He wasn't you know, match 2297 01:59:04,387 --> 01:59:07,067 Speaker 20: fit and getting those match minutes. So it was really 2298 01:59:07,107 --> 01:59:09,227 Speaker 20: important that he you know, he did get a club 2299 01:59:09,307 --> 01:59:11,587 Speaker 20: and he took his time. He had a lot of options, 2300 01:59:11,907 --> 01:59:14,347 Speaker 20: very mature lad, you know, he didn't just jump at 2301 01:59:14,347 --> 01:59:16,827 Speaker 20: the first option, and potentially there were some things there 2302 01:59:16,867 --> 01:59:19,747 Speaker 20: where he might have got more money, but he knew 2303 01:59:20,067 --> 01:59:22,987 Speaker 20: maybe that's not the right move. So it's been a 2304 01:59:23,027 --> 01:59:24,907 Speaker 20: difficult period for him. You know, he had a few 2305 01:59:24,947 --> 01:59:28,307 Speaker 20: other things that were close to happening and didn't quite happen, 2306 01:59:28,347 --> 01:59:30,987 Speaker 20: which is always frustrating for players and you know, the 2307 01:59:31,067 --> 01:59:33,707 Speaker 20: one that they want maybe doesn't quite happen. And then 2308 01:59:33,747 --> 01:59:35,507 Speaker 20: this came up and he spoke to the club and 2309 01:59:35,587 --> 01:59:38,547 Speaker 20: the coach and yeah, I think it's a good move 2310 01:59:38,587 --> 01:59:41,347 Speaker 20: for him, you know, and an opportunity for him to 2311 01:59:41,467 --> 01:59:42,987 Speaker 20: get back playing in a tough league. 2312 01:59:43,827 --> 01:59:43,987 Speaker 3: You know. 2313 01:59:44,067 --> 01:59:46,187 Speaker 20: It was where Tyler Binden played last season, you know, 2314 01:59:46,267 --> 01:59:49,147 Speaker 20: and he's obviously progressed really well, so it's a tough league. 2315 01:59:49,827 --> 01:59:51,667 Speaker 20: I think it will suit him. The English sort of 2316 01:59:51,747 --> 01:59:54,267 Speaker 20: style will suit him. I think he can play higher 2317 01:59:54,467 --> 01:59:56,467 Speaker 20: than that level, but right now it's important that he 2318 01:59:56,667 --> 01:59:59,187 Speaker 20: just cements his place there and he does play to 2319 01:59:59,307 --> 02:00:02,747 Speaker 20: his full potential and we start seeing that that player 2320 02:00:02,787 --> 02:00:03,547 Speaker 20: that we know is in there. 2321 02:00:03,627 --> 02:00:06,267 Speaker 2: You've been very consistent with your selections but also sprinkled 2322 02:00:06,387 --> 02:00:09,747 Speaker 2: and some dB Thomson bringing players in and out. Is 2323 02:00:09,827 --> 02:00:12,467 Speaker 2: it possible that someone who hasn't played for the All 2324 02:00:12,547 --> 02:00:14,427 Speaker 2: Whites yet could go to the World Cup? 2325 02:00:15,627 --> 02:00:16,027 Speaker 18: For sure? 2326 02:00:16,307 --> 02:00:20,307 Speaker 20: You know, definitely, you know, I mean that's football. You know, 2327 02:00:20,467 --> 02:00:24,107 Speaker 20: two years ago, people didn't know Tyler Binden and probably 2328 02:00:24,187 --> 02:00:26,147 Speaker 20: the other center backs in the squad. 2329 02:00:26,707 --> 02:00:26,867 Speaker 5: You know. 2330 02:00:27,187 --> 02:00:29,587 Speaker 20: I was talking to Nando the other day and obviously 2331 02:00:29,667 --> 02:00:31,747 Speaker 20: Nando's picked up an injury and that's a shame for him. 2332 02:00:31,747 --> 02:00:34,827 Speaker 20: And we were talking about other players and the competition 2333 02:00:34,987 --> 02:00:37,467 Speaker 20: for places, and you know that he now knows who 2334 02:00:37,547 --> 02:00:40,027 Speaker 20: he's up against. But you know, two years ago when 2335 02:00:40,107 --> 02:00:42,387 Speaker 20: he was a constant, you know, he was looking at 2336 02:00:42,387 --> 02:00:45,547 Speaker 20: Tommy Smith and Boxel. He didn't he wasn't looking at 2337 02:00:45,587 --> 02:00:48,227 Speaker 20: Finn Sermon and Tyler Binden back then now and suddenly 2338 02:00:48,347 --> 02:00:51,667 Speaker 20: now he's got players coming up from beneath him. So 2339 02:00:51,707 --> 02:00:54,067 Speaker 20: I think younger players are always an option, but there's 2340 02:00:54,067 --> 02:00:57,467 Speaker 20: also players hit form. Someone like Owen Parker. Price has 2341 02:00:57,587 --> 02:01:00,627 Speaker 20: just moved to the Swedish second Division, you know, and 2342 02:01:00,707 --> 02:01:02,587 Speaker 20: at the top of that division, he could become a 2343 02:01:02,667 --> 02:01:04,427 Speaker 20: player in the Swedish Top League by the end of 2344 02:01:04,467 --> 02:01:08,027 Speaker 20: this season. And there's young players like Luke brook Smith 2345 02:01:08,107 --> 02:01:11,187 Speaker 20: that are doing really well and if he had a 2346 02:01:11,307 --> 02:01:14,227 Speaker 20: breakout season, yes he could jump in. Matt w Dis 2347 02:01:14,307 --> 02:01:17,187 Speaker 20: we're sort of as another player that's never played for us, 2348 02:01:17,307 --> 02:01:18,587 Speaker 20: you know, we've had him in a squad, but he 2349 02:01:18,667 --> 02:01:22,747 Speaker 20: got injured that day, you know, and if he fulfills 2350 02:01:22,827 --> 02:01:27,507 Speaker 20: potential and starts performing, yeah, we'll definitely look at everybody 2351 02:01:27,747 --> 02:01:28,827 Speaker 20: as an option and. 2352 02:01:28,947 --> 02:01:30,827 Speaker 2: Just on the soccer rows, all Whites haven't beaten them 2353 02:01:30,907 --> 02:01:33,947 Speaker 2: since two thousand and two, just one goal against them 2354 02:01:33,987 --> 02:01:37,587 Speaker 2: in the last seven matches against Australia. How keen are 2355 02:01:37,667 --> 02:01:39,387 Speaker 2: you to beat these guys? 2356 02:01:40,147 --> 02:01:43,187 Speaker 20: Well, you know you saying those stats, that's yeah, that's 2357 02:01:43,227 --> 02:01:45,987 Speaker 20: not good enough far. You know, we're playing Australia and 2358 02:01:46,107 --> 02:01:48,067 Speaker 20: we've got that record, so it's something that we need 2359 02:01:48,147 --> 02:01:50,347 Speaker 20: to put right. And then we look at their last game. 2360 02:01:50,387 --> 02:01:52,747 Speaker 20: We played them in London two years ago. You know, 2361 02:01:52,907 --> 02:01:55,787 Speaker 20: we didn't really perform on that day and we never 2362 02:01:56,307 --> 02:01:58,747 Speaker 20: we never really left a performance on the pitch that 2363 02:01:59,027 --> 02:02:00,227 Speaker 20: we or people could. 2364 02:02:00,027 --> 02:02:00,467 Speaker 8: Be proud of. 2365 02:02:00,667 --> 02:02:03,507 Speaker 20: So yeah, definitely something that we're here, the players are 2366 02:02:03,547 --> 02:02:06,867 Speaker 20: aware of and keen to put right. You know, it 2367 02:02:07,387 --> 02:02:12,947 Speaker 20: should be a fierce competitive rivalry and yeah, we want 2368 02:02:12,987 --> 02:02:13,667 Speaker 20: to take the Ashes. 2369 02:02:15,227 --> 02:02:17,307 Speaker 2: Brilliant. Can't wait for these games. Another great squad you 2370 02:02:17,347 --> 02:02:19,067 Speaker 2: have named based Thanks for joining us, mate, look forward 2371 02:02:19,067 --> 02:02:21,627 Speaker 2: to seeing how these games play out. No doubt, catch 2372 02:02:21,667 --> 02:02:23,187 Speaker 2: up when you're back here in New Zealand after the 2373 02:02:23,187 --> 02:02:25,747 Speaker 2: first game, pa, Any good to catch up, No good 2374 02:02:25,787 --> 02:02:28,347 Speaker 2: to talk, but it's thanks indeed, Darren Basley, head coach 2375 02:02:28,547 --> 02:02:31,027 Speaker 2: of the All Whites. They take on Australia Home and 2376 02:02:31,027 --> 02:02:34,827 Speaker 2: Away Canberra Friday September five and go Media Stadium, Auckland 2377 02:02:34,987 --> 02:02:40,947 Speaker 2: on Tuesday September the ninth halftime at Stadium Tartanaki, tight battle, 2378 02:02:41,507 --> 02:02:45,107 Speaker 2: Tartanaky five, White cut All three. It's like the old days, 2379 02:02:45,147 --> 02:02:47,427 Speaker 2: isn't it? Five to three at half time White Cutter 2380 02:02:47,507 --> 02:02:50,827 Speaker 2: looking to prize away the ran fully shield the Amber 2381 02:02:50,947 --> 02:02:52,867 Speaker 2: and Blacks looking to hold on to it. Five to 2382 02:02:52,867 --> 02:02:54,987 Speaker 2: three at a half time coming up eight away from three. 2383 02:02:55,067 --> 02:02:57,067 Speaker 2: News TALKSIB when it's. 2384 02:02:56,987 --> 02:03:00,787 Speaker 8: Down to the line. You made a call on eight 2385 02:03:01,147 --> 02:03:05,587 Speaker 8: Weekend Sports with Jason Pine. News TALKSIB five to three. 2386 02:03:05,747 --> 02:03:07,747 Speaker 2: Just a reminder of to morrow on Weekend Sport. We're 2387 02:03:07,747 --> 02:03:09,347 Speaker 2: on the air at the slightly earlier time of just 2388 02:03:09,467 --> 02:03:11,867 Speaker 2: after eleven. Is the All Blacks Argentina Test of course, 2389 02:03:11,867 --> 02:03:14,107 Speaker 2: which should finish it around about eleven o'clock, just after 2390 02:03:14,347 --> 02:03:16,827 Speaker 2: and then we'll take over. Elliot Smith and Anstrawn have 2391 02:03:16,907 --> 02:03:19,187 Speaker 2: the call for you here on News Talks HEADB. They'll 2392 02:03:19,187 --> 02:03:21,387 Speaker 2: start there built up just before nine, kick off at 2393 02:03:21,427 --> 02:03:23,307 Speaker 2: ten past nine and then we'll take over at full 2394 02:03:23,387 --> 02:03:25,507 Speaker 2: time to break it all down, We'll get inside the 2395 02:03:25,547 --> 02:03:28,067 Speaker 2: All Blacks camp. We'll take lots of your calls and 2396 02:03:28,467 --> 02:03:32,547 Speaker 2: feedback and dissect the Rugby Warriors tomorrow as well. Whatever 2397 02:03:32,627 --> 02:03:36,107 Speaker 2: happens tonight, whatever happens, we'll break that down for you 2398 02:03:36,627 --> 02:03:39,307 Speaker 2: on the show tomorrow as well. Tim Beverage after three, 2399 02:03:39,347 --> 02:03:40,947 Speaker 2: thanks so much for listening, and as always, thanks to 2400 02:03:40,987 --> 02:03:44,347 Speaker 2: any McDonald for producing what is our exit song today? Mate? 2401 02:03:44,427 --> 02:03:47,307 Speaker 15: Yeah, piney and sort of to celebrate Cody Taylor, one 2402 02:03:47,347 --> 02:03:49,467 Speaker 15: of the bigger anchors of the All Blacks front row 2403 02:03:49,587 --> 02:03:52,987 Speaker 15: for the past decade. Actually it's been, hasn't it. I've 2404 02:03:53,067 --> 02:03:55,827 Speaker 15: gone for the Mutton Birds anchor me to finish it. 2405 02:03:55,907 --> 02:03:58,827 Speaker 2: It's a cracker. It's a crack. Good choice. 2406 02:03:59,027 --> 02:04:37,187 Speaker 19: See tomorrow, folks, Thank you, see, thank you. 2407 02:04:45,867 --> 02:04:51,187 Speaker 5: Alcome ang. 2408 02:04:56,907 --> 02:05:00,067 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live 2409 02:05:00,187 --> 02:05:03,467 Speaker 1: to news Talks it be weekends from midday, or follow 2410 02:05:03,507 --> 02:05:05,067 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.