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Speaker 2: Hello you great New Zealanders, and welcome to Matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler Afternoons Full Show podcast number seventy three for the

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Speaker 2: twenty sixth of February twenty twenty five. It's a Monday,

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Speaker 2: great chat ended in tarantulas. It started with what did

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Speaker 2: it start with?

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Speaker 3: While we got some doomsday bunker shaded and that was nextly.

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Speaker 2: Wait till the story from Mark. You evaluate the story

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Speaker 2: from Mark. But it sounds like there is some terrifying

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Speaker 2: stuff underground in New Zealand. Mark might go missing. Yeah, banging,

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Speaker 2: that's what we started with. What was the first topic?

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Speaker 2: Oh else, you'll find out what the first topic? It

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter, we'll announce it very soon. But anyway, set

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Speaker 2: to download and subscribe and follow and share and thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for listening. Love you all, Kim Mataste

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Speaker 2: KIWI your.

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Speaker 1: New home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's Matteith and

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Speaker 1: Tyler Adams Afternoons with the full though xc nighty on

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Speaker 1: News Talk.

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Speaker 2: Send me well happy Monday afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Do you hope you had a great week Kenned and

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Speaker 3: are having a great afternoon if you're listening from good

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Speaker 3: A mets A Tyler, how are you fantastic? You had

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Speaker 3: a lovely weekend in Hamilton.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I certainly did. I went down there. I was

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Speaker 2: speaking with Jamie Panell, the former Sas soldier. He's got

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Speaker 2: a fantastic book called Serviceman j The Untold Story of

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Speaker 2: an Sas Soldier. It's a very very good book. So

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Speaker 2: we had a fantastic chat down there in the Hamilton Gardens,

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Speaker 2: and great crowd came along and look, I said to

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Speaker 2: people there, because I hadn't really seen the Hamilton Gardens before,

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Speaker 2: but I said, I'm going to say on the radio,

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Speaker 2: I promise a lot of people how great the Hamilton

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Speaker 2: Gardens are.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 2: The Hamilton Gardens are so spectacularly great. And Sunday was

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Speaker 2: such a beautiful day, so many great people there. And

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Speaker 2: you know in New Zealand, we've got all these things

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Speaker 2: and everyone will be going, how come you don't know

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Speaker 2: about Hamilton Gardens. So I don't know why I didn't

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Speaker 2: But we have so many great things like that, and

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Speaker 2: they need to be celebrated. People need to point them

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Speaker 2: out and go. That is crazily spectacular.

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Speaker 3: I haven't heard a bad word about the Hamilton Gardens.

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Speaker 3: I haven't been either, and I know that it's I'm

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Speaker 3: class apparently, And Hamilton gets a bit of stick from

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Speaker 3: time to time, but the gardens. No one sees anything

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Speaker 2: Right No. I mean some people are annoyed that they

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Speaker 2: the Hamilton and Art Festival were very good to me

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Speaker 2: and Jamie Panell. And yeah, as is saying to you before, Tyler,

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Speaker 2: when you're doing a stand up speech with someone that's

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Speaker 2: an insied essay, as soldier, you just have to accept

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Speaker 2: that your stories and nowhere near as good as there

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Speaker 2: is when you go to war. It's hard to compete

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Speaker 2: with your interesting broadcasting stories don't quite don't quite compete

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Speaker 2: with being there. When will the appiada one has gold

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Speaker 3: Now just before we get to Garia cross, just before

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Speaker 3: we get to your farm stay. I've got to say,

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Speaker 3: you're looking like a very proud Danita Knight right now,

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Speaker 3: you've got your Tago Rugby juwsey on.

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Speaker 2: I've got the you know, the original what everyone wore

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Speaker 2: in the nineties in Duonedan when I was growing up

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Speaker 2: had big Dunedin coat of arms on there. So I'm

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Speaker 2: going fallen after that. Fantastic Highlanders win. But look at this,

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Speaker 2: Look at this text. Hi, dear Matt Heath. I hope

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Speaker 2: you rescind any future invitations to watch the Blues at

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Speaker 2: your off because you're a disgrace. You've disgraced yourself. Call

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Speaker 2: yourself a Mountain local. Well, I am a mounted and local.

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Speaker 2: It is for me, play for birth's rein supreme. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: Why you were down at this beautiful I'm very excited

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Speaker 2: There's rabbit farmers. Well, I don't know. I'm just assuming. Well,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, doing God's work. But that is after three o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Farming of unusual animals in New Zealand. We want to

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Speaker 3: been rumored that very wealthy international billionaires and multimillionaires are

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So would you want a bunker? How do they work?

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Speaker 2: and potential apocalypse Cherry subject on the mattin Tyler afternoons

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Speaker 3: Look forward to that discussion after two o'clock. But right now,

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Speaker 3: let's have a chat about will Should you provide more

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Speaker 3: out the situation here as posed to the hero?

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Speaker 2: Sure you go for it, Tyler.

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Speaker 3: All right, it says dear Mary, who writes this particular

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Speaker 3: told about the boys getting the line's share of parental

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Speaker 3: financial help. That really got to me. We were financially

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Speaker 3: Our son left high school by mutual agreement at just sixteen.

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Speaker 2: It happens.

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Speaker 3: Our big struggle is a little we will have to leave.

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Speaker 3: Will mean not a lot to our daughter and family,

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Speaker 2: Because that's a tough one, because okay, my gut failing

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can't play favorites. So someone succeeded so

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Speaker 2: well so they get more money, you know, or I

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Speaker 2: can kind of if someone's been actively evil towards you,

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Speaker 2: you might want to not give them the money. It's

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Speaker 2: a complex area, isn't it? Super complex? Is your last

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Speaker 2: statement on this planet to punish someone would be an

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Speaker 2: interesting one. I mean, you know, if you go to

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 3: But if that situation, I mean, if I, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's not that messy. But if they came to me

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Speaker 3: and said, hey, your little bro has had a financial

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Speaker 2: Are you okay with that?

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Speaker 3: I'd probably be yeah, fair enough, But you'd have to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, if he and my sisters are listening, if

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Speaker 2: So it's an interesting topic. So waight te hundred eighty

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Speaker 2: a lot of gray area there. And just before it goes,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to mention around the Highlanders when my dad's

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Speaker 2: and He was a huge fan and him and dad

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Speaker 3: So good on you, Bruce, love that yet fantastic? Right, Oh,

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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call?

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Speaker 3: It is fourteen past one.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between.

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Speaker 7: Matt and Tayler afternoons with the Volvo XC.

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Speaker 1: Ninety, attention to detail and a commitment to comfort news talks.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon seventeen past one. And this is a great question,

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Speaker 3: a curly question, but can and should you provide more

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Speaker 3: for a financially worse off child in your will?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Or cut out a errant and evil child from

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Speaker 2: your wealth? Emma, something similar has happened in your family recently,

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Speaker 2: I understand, yep.

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Speaker 8: It has just in the past couple of months. So

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Speaker 8: there's three siblings, and it's a little more complicated because

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Speaker 8: But as far as those kids were concerned, she was mums.

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Speaker 8: They treated her as she thought they tread you know,

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Speaker 8: all the fields were there and we have just been

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Speaker 8: it's been something we never anticipated, like the feeling of

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Speaker 8: You'll never know? And that's the thing, And we've chosen

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Speaker 2: that's fairly clear. It's very comfortable, correctly, So how if

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Speaker 2: you don't mind sharing the details. How different in success

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Speaker 8: So the two step kids have both got tertiary educations

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Speaker 8: so they've never been able to get a hidden life,

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Speaker 8: But it just sends a message to the other two

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Speaker 2: Emma, was there any messaging in the will to offset

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Speaker 8: No, Like I said, they've made the will public before

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Speaker 8: they've died. They've told everybody about it just last month, right,

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Speaker 2: And sorry, sorry mist understood. So they're still alive.

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Speaker 8: So there's one parent still alive and they have told

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Speaker 2: But so isn't there a chance that the bile like

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Speaker 5: I don't think so, because it's much.

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Speaker 2: Of a motivation. So you're going to get a house.

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Speaker 8: The other sticking point. The other sticking point was because

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Speaker 8: will leaving some of their finances to the two biological sons,

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Speaker 8: and they shows in good faith to say no, you

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Speaker 8: just keep that to the step mum.

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Speaker 9: We don't want to.

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Speaker 8: Make you have to sell the house to give us

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Speaker 8: to worry about it.

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Speaker 2: Wow, do you.

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Speaker 10: Know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: And now that yeah, yeah, it's so.

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Speaker 2: Much simpler if you just divide.

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Speaker 3: It such a minefield. But so at this stage I

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Speaker 3: Is that remedied it at all in terms of.

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Speaker 8: That hurt only with us, but the other other siblings

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Speaker 8: We just had that conversation appearent enough because of the

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Speaker 8: The thing is, there's no win. There's no win because

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Speaker 8: it's not about the money, it's about the feeling.

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Speaker 2: But was was the was it? You know, there's some

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Speaker 2: sometimes you have you're closer emotionally. Take the money out

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Speaker 2: of it. Was that was that a situation was all

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Speaker 8: In fact, the one of the sons who has done

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the hurt would be I can I can see

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Speaker 2: so well, seeing what you've seen in this kind of situation.

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Speaker 2: And it's also complicated. Every situation is obviously incredibly different

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Speaker 8: Well, I think at the end of the day, people's

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Speaker 8: you can never get those memoried and feelings back once

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Speaker 8: some months passed. Yeah, you know, and yeah, I just

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh well, thank you so much for your call.

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Speaker 2: Emma really appreciate that. Yeah, very candid, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 2: Back in a moment.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the Mike asking breakfast.

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Speaker 12: What a wake up call in the Tasmano the Chinese

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Speaker 12: rife start firing and tell no One. Defense Minister Judith

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Speaker 12: anything about this?

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Speaker 2: Do you think?

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Speaker 12: I mean they must be looking at this with some

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Speaker 13: I think they and other countries of the world are

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Speaker 13: and nobody wants to overreact. Nobody wants to get to excite. Well, hey,

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Speaker 12: Back tomorrow at six am, the Mike asking breakfast with

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, it is twenty seven past one and we're

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Speaker 3: which a question was asked, should they provide more for

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Speaker 3: a financially worse off child in the will than the

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Speaker 3: other siblings? Some great teams coming through A nine two

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Speaker 2: Hi boys, great show. We have a bro who has

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Speaker 2: never been one of life's winners personal choices. The favorite

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Speaker 2: of Mum gave him a biggest year of the estate

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Speaker 2: because he had nothing and we all had our own homes.

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Speaker 2: We didn't like it, but respected mum's wishes. Five years on,

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Speaker 2: we are still good and Bros still has nothing as

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Speaker 2: all he got from we went through the Pokey's. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's the thing, the sex says. I know farmers who

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Speaker 2: are still leaving their farm to their sons. All children

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Speaker 2: says the sect to need to receive equal share. If

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Speaker 2: one needs an extra bailout, then that amount owed to

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Speaker 2: the other siblings by the way of repaying of alone. Interesting, okay,

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Speaker 2: and your thoughts on this ahi.

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Speaker 10: Well, Funnily enough, now you brought up the issue of

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Speaker 10: different families. My husband only had one sibling who didn't

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Speaker 10: do that well at school, didn't do that well at life.

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Speaker 10: My husband and I did manage to do well. We

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Speaker 10: coming when his brother would be needy and we would

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Speaker 10: be the lucky ones. And it was actually me who

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Speaker 10: that the way our lives were, we'd been very fortunate

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Speaker 10: and it would be a kinder thing if the parents

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Speaker 10: left the house and his name. He had always lived

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Speaker 10: with the parents, as it eventuated, never married, and they

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Speaker 10: old school. Of course you's down the middle, But that

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Speaker 10: it fell into an actual position because it was willed

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Speaker 10: that way. He walked away with the house and we

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Speaker 10: continue with our good life and grateful for what we had.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's very that makes you a very good person.

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Speaker 10: Anne, Well, I think it was just that I thought

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and that I was able to work.

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Speaker 8: Well.

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Speaker 2: Was that appreciated that move? Was it ever expressed to

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Speaker 10: He never verbilized it. But as life turned out, there

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Speaker 10: was some cash remaining. The parents hadn't been well off,

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Speaker 5: Of us, and.

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Speaker 10: It was a long, sad story has went. We thought

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Speaker 10: that side, but I do want to speak also briefly

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Speaker 10: got a certain cash which was nothing like the money

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Speaker 10: in both cases there was enough family goodwill that these

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Speaker 2: the person that continues working on the farm and legacy,

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Speaker 10: So sometimes they have to end up trying to buy

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you had that discussion before, and as

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Speaker 10: Yes, I think in both cases the important thing is

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Speaker 10: no nice to their surprises after the death.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

438
00:22:31,933 --> 00:22:34,173
Speaker 2: I mean if I was in that situation, If I

439
00:22:34,213 --> 00:22:35,653
Speaker 2: was in the situation I had, and I'd work my

440
00:22:35,693 --> 00:22:37,973
Speaker 2: whole life on a farm and there was one of

441
00:22:38,013 --> 00:22:39,613
Speaker 2: the children that had worked on the farm a lot

442
00:22:39,653 --> 00:22:42,173
Speaker 2: with me and was a farmer, and the other ones weren't,

443
00:22:42,493 --> 00:22:46,253
Speaker 2: I would say, Okay, who this farm goes to? Who

444
00:22:46,253 --> 00:22:48,373
Speaker 2: wants to work it? That's the way it's going. So

445
00:22:48,693 --> 00:22:51,373
Speaker 2: already I've gone against what I said before that it

446
00:22:51,373 --> 00:22:57,013
Speaker 2: should be divided equally, because if it's your whole life's

447
00:22:57,013 --> 00:22:59,933
Speaker 2: work and it's just going to disappear because it has

448
00:22:59,973 --> 00:23:02,653
Speaker 2: to be sold to share between kids that maybe be

449
00:23:02,733 --> 00:23:04,613
Speaker 2: living in London and other one's on the other side

450
00:23:04,653 --> 00:23:06,973
Speaker 2: of the world, someone else is doing something else and

451
00:23:07,013 --> 00:23:09,293
Speaker 2: one of them has stayed with you. Now that circumstance,

452
00:23:09,333 --> 00:23:11,093
Speaker 2: come on, it's got to go. It's got to go

453
00:23:11,133 --> 00:23:12,533
Speaker 2: to that guy, old gal.

454
00:23:14,333 --> 00:23:16,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much, Jean. It is missy, isn't it.

455
00:23:16,813 --> 00:23:18,413
Speaker 3: I mean, even when I'm talking there and say there's

456
00:23:18,413 --> 00:23:19,973
Speaker 3: a deal that can be worked out, I mean your

457
00:23:20,013 --> 00:23:22,453
Speaker 3: parents have just died and you're working out deals about money.

458
00:23:22,693 --> 00:23:25,173
Speaker 3: Just feels about gross sometimes, but lovely you've got a

459
00:23:25,173 --> 00:23:29,773
Speaker 3: well Tyler, No, I know, all right, I know, I

460
00:23:29,853 --> 00:23:30,773
Speaker 3: got to get that sorted.

461
00:23:30,853 --> 00:23:34,373
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, that's good to know. So we're with

462
00:23:34,493 --> 00:23:35,213
Speaker 2: all your money go.

463
00:23:35,733 --> 00:23:38,413
Speaker 3: So you just leave, you just leave your partner hanging. Well,

464
00:23:38,453 --> 00:23:40,493
Speaker 3: maybe's my defecto partner.

465
00:23:40,573 --> 00:23:43,133
Speaker 2: So by lawa she it's the house.

466
00:23:43,453 --> 00:23:45,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how it works, isn't it.

467
00:23:45,413 --> 00:23:47,453
Speaker 2: Yeah? All right, then I don't think you don't actually

468
00:23:47,453 --> 00:23:50,493
Speaker 2: have much, dear. No, you've got a punishing hybrid vehicle

469
00:23:51,053 --> 00:23:52,133
Speaker 2: in the house in christ.

470
00:23:52,013 --> 00:23:54,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, lovely house in christ that's the big as set.

471
00:23:54,253 --> 00:23:55,653
Speaker 3: It's not going to be a people your dog, you

472
00:23:55,693 --> 00:23:57,213
Speaker 3: know that's the big one. It's going to be a

473
00:23:57,333 --> 00:23:59,373
Speaker 3: huge amount of people turning out for the world reading.

474
00:23:59,653 --> 00:24:01,213
Speaker 3: We don't have to fight too much for my s.

475
00:24:01,253 --> 00:24:03,333
Speaker 3: It's at the stage.

476
00:24:03,013 --> 00:24:07,653
Speaker 2: Okay, what percentage of this is a question? What percentage

477
00:24:07,733 --> 00:24:09,933
Speaker 2: of people at New Zealanders do you think do not

478
00:24:09,973 --> 00:24:12,693
Speaker 2: have a will right now? Ooh, good question. I reckon

479
00:24:12,733 --> 00:24:15,893
Speaker 2: it'll be pretty high adult New Zealanders. Yeah, if you

480
00:24:15,933 --> 00:24:16,293
Speaker 2: think you.

481
00:24:16,293 --> 00:24:19,373
Speaker 3: Know nine two nine tools a text number, I'm gonna say,

482
00:24:20,293 --> 00:24:22,213
Speaker 3: surely it can't be higher than thirty percent.

483
00:24:22,333 --> 00:24:24,733
Speaker 2: Okay, well we'll find out, all right.

484
00:24:24,813 --> 00:24:26,893
Speaker 3: All right, headlines with railing coming up. Then we'll get

485
00:24:26,973 --> 00:24:31,933
Speaker 3: more of your phone calls. It is twenty six to two.

486
00:24:31,733 --> 00:24:34,893
Speaker 7: You talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis.

487
00:24:34,933 --> 00:24:38,573
Speaker 15: It's no trouble with a blue bubble Nationals. Andrew Bailey

488
00:24:38,613 --> 00:24:42,853
Speaker 15: has resigned as Minister for acc and Commerce and Consumer

489
00:24:42,893 --> 00:24:45,853
Speaker 15: Affairs after putting his hand on a staff as arm

490
00:24:45,973 --> 00:24:49,613
Speaker 15: during an animated work discussion last week. He's staying on

491
00:24:49,733 --> 00:24:54,173
Speaker 15: as port Wykoto's MP Corimandel MP Scott Simpson will take

492
00:24:54,213 --> 00:24:59,453
Speaker 15: over his portfolios. The PSA is accusing the government of hypocrisy.

493
00:24:59,933 --> 00:25:03,533
Speaker 15: Is a Handsettles spend up big on defense soon after

494
00:25:03,613 --> 00:25:08,253
Speaker 15: recently slashing military jobs and spending complaints over the abr

495
00:25:08,573 --> 00:25:12,653
Speaker 15: closure of Nelson's courthouse last week after a connection added

496
00:25:12,733 --> 00:25:18,933
Speaker 15: eighteen years ago has been deemed seismically substandard, Women's Refuge

497
00:25:19,173 --> 00:25:23,573
Speaker 15: says it's a scandal any official organization still refers clients

498
00:25:23,573 --> 00:25:27,533
Speaker 15: to the Destiny Church linked Man Up anti violence program

499
00:25:27,773 --> 00:25:31,613
Speaker 15: after the group aggressively disrupted a library children's event hosted

500
00:25:31,653 --> 00:25:36,213
Speaker 15: by drag King gormyor Ben Bell has confirmed he'll stand

501
00:25:36,213 --> 00:25:39,493
Speaker 15: for reelection in October. Than our twenty five year old

502
00:25:39,493 --> 00:25:42,213
Speaker 15: became New Zealand's youngest mayor in twenty twenty two.

503
00:25:43,293 --> 00:25:45,453
Speaker 2: Have the Heinendez found the new Annanu.

504
00:25:45,573 --> 00:25:48,893
Speaker 15: You can see Phil Gifford's full column at Enzen Herald Premium.

505
00:25:49,253 --> 00:25:51,413
Speaker 15: Back to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

506
00:25:51,133 --> 00:25:53,213
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Ray Lean, and we are talking

507
00:25:53,213 --> 00:25:56,253
Speaker 3: about wills on the back of a advice column that

508
00:25:56,933 --> 00:25:59,613
Speaker 3: asked the question, should you provide more for a financially

509
00:25:59,613 --> 00:26:02,333
Speaker 3: worse off child in your will than other well to

510
00:26:02,413 --> 00:26:04,013
Speaker 3: do children.

511
00:26:03,693 --> 00:26:06,653
Speaker 2: Or should it just be even stevens across the board.

512
00:26:06,693 --> 00:26:08,733
Speaker 2: You got two kids, they get fifty percent each. You

513
00:26:08,853 --> 00:26:11,493
Speaker 2: got three at thirty three and a third you get

514
00:26:11,493 --> 00:26:14,613
Speaker 2: it four, you've got twenty five. Like in my family, Hey, gents,

515
00:26:14,653 --> 00:26:17,573
Speaker 2: tricky one is blended family. Wells, I have two kids,

516
00:26:17,613 --> 00:26:20,333
Speaker 2: wife has one. We have been together twenty five years.

517
00:26:20,573 --> 00:26:23,293
Speaker 2: She wants to give her daughter her half fifty percent

518
00:26:23,333 --> 00:26:25,133
Speaker 2: and my kids get the rest, which is only twenty

519
00:26:25,133 --> 00:26:27,893
Speaker 2: five percent in each. It's a curly one. Great show,

520
00:26:28,013 --> 00:26:30,292
Speaker 2: cheers te. I mean, how do you bring that up?

521
00:26:30,293 --> 00:26:33,973
Speaker 2: How do you say I want to give my kid half.

522
00:26:34,733 --> 00:26:37,933
Speaker 2: I don't know who these people. It's Missy's messy.

523
00:26:38,333 --> 00:26:41,533
Speaker 3: Just I get blended family is you know, there adds

524
00:26:41,573 --> 00:26:44,773
Speaker 3: a level of complication there, but at all even in.

525
00:26:44,773 --> 00:26:46,893
Speaker 2: Many ways, you're well as the last statement you make

526
00:26:46,973 --> 00:26:49,973
Speaker 2: on the planet, so you want it to be. I imagine

527
00:26:50,413 --> 00:26:53,653
Speaker 2: one of that brings unity to the world, as opposed

528
00:26:53,693 --> 00:26:59,093
Speaker 2: to just endless hatred and arimoni. Quite often on farms

529
00:26:59,093 --> 00:27:02,373
Speaker 2: there's only one position for one child to return and work,

530
00:27:02,453 --> 00:27:04,773
Speaker 2: so the rest are kicked out. Yeah, okay, that's yeah.

531
00:27:04,773 --> 00:27:07,133
Speaker 2: Because I was saying before. If you've got a situation

532
00:27:07,213 --> 00:27:09,013
Speaker 2: on a farm and there's one of the kids has

533
00:27:09,053 --> 00:27:10,893
Speaker 2: worked on the farm and is a farmer, and the

534
00:27:10,933 --> 00:27:13,733
Speaker 2: other two have not been interested and they're off in

535
00:27:13,773 --> 00:27:16,093
Speaker 2: the city, and you want the farm to continue, then

536
00:27:16,293 --> 00:27:18,453
Speaker 2: then it makes sense that the farm would go to

537
00:27:18,573 --> 00:27:20,893
Speaker 2: that one. You know, as much as the other kids

538
00:27:20,933 --> 00:27:22,733
Speaker 2: are missing out on something, but they haven't shown interest

539
00:27:22,773 --> 00:27:24,292
Speaker 2: in the farm, and you want the legacy to continue.

540
00:27:24,293 --> 00:27:27,093
Speaker 2: Whatever difficult if all three of them have decided to

541
00:27:27,093 --> 00:27:28,093
Speaker 2: stay and work on the farm.

542
00:27:28,173 --> 00:27:30,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, similar for a batch though right in the

543
00:27:30,213 --> 00:27:32,653
Speaker 3: family that of one sibling has done most of the

544
00:27:32,693 --> 00:27:34,933
Speaker 3: work on the batch. They are in the country, they're

545
00:27:34,933 --> 00:27:37,373
Speaker 3: mowing the lawns, they're doing on the maintenance. Do they

546
00:27:37,453 --> 00:27:39,573
Speaker 3: get to take the pat show for the other siblings?

547
00:27:39,773 --> 00:27:40,653
Speaker 3: Gets complicated?

548
00:27:41,053 --> 00:27:42,973
Speaker 2: Oh now, quickly, Beloh yeah, that's right.

549
00:27:42,973 --> 00:27:46,293
Speaker 3: The headlines you ask the question how many adults within

550
00:27:46,293 --> 00:27:47,373
Speaker 3: New Zealand don't have a will?

551
00:27:47,733 --> 00:27:49,653
Speaker 2: Well, the answer to that question you said thirty percent,

552
00:27:49,693 --> 00:27:51,973
Speaker 2: which was a pathetic attempted to answer. You're off by

553
00:27:51,973 --> 00:27:55,053
Speaker 2: seventeen percent, Tyler. Almost half of New Zealand adults forty

554
00:27:55,053 --> 00:27:58,013
Speaker 2: seven percent don't have a will, according to research that

555
00:27:58,173 --> 00:28:01,733
Speaker 2: was commissioned by Safewill. So that I mean, it's kind

556
00:28:01,773 --> 00:28:05,053
Speaker 2: of high. It's a part a confusing statistic isn't it,

557
00:28:05,093 --> 00:28:07,573
Speaker 2: Because I mean you're an adult at twenty, aren't you?

558
00:28:07,813 --> 00:28:09,413
Speaker 2: So how many time any one year olds Bob and Heather?

559
00:28:09,493 --> 00:28:12,493
Speaker 2: Well they don't own anything at twenty Yeah, yeah, exactly.

560
00:28:12,613 --> 00:28:17,733
Speaker 2: You split up your your starlet? Yeah yeah.

561
00:28:17,773 --> 00:28:20,493
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty SID eighty is the number to call, Morris,

562
00:28:20,533 --> 00:28:21,573
Speaker 3: How are you this afternoon?

563
00:28:22,293 --> 00:28:22,532
Speaker 16: Go on?

564
00:28:22,573 --> 00:28:25,133
Speaker 5: Not too bad lads. This is an interesting topic with

565
00:28:25,253 --> 00:28:27,053
Speaker 5: all white children, which is the whole bunch of them.

566
00:28:27,493 --> 00:28:29,893
Speaker 5: But we come to conclusion because there's so many different

567
00:28:29,893 --> 00:28:32,733
Speaker 5: months they're getting nothing. I've had an education, they've all

568
00:28:32,773 --> 00:28:34,853
Speaker 5: been to private school, they've all been to university, come

569
00:28:34,893 --> 00:28:37,213
Speaker 5: out with no dick. They can't make it a life.

570
00:28:37,293 --> 00:28:38,413
Speaker 5: That's er issue, not mine.

571
00:28:38,453 --> 00:28:39,253
Speaker 2: So where does some money go?

572
00:28:39,333 --> 00:28:39,453
Speaker 14: Then?

573
00:28:39,493 --> 00:28:39,853
Speaker 2: Morris?

574
00:28:40,853 --> 00:28:41,693
Speaker 6: Well, what we.

575
00:28:41,613 --> 00:28:43,893
Speaker 5: Did is we've got to trust and go to people

576
00:28:43,893 --> 00:28:46,493
Speaker 5: actually who need a head. And so we've decided that

577
00:28:46,533 --> 00:28:48,293
Speaker 5: we want to fund kids from low sous. You can

578
00:28:48,333 --> 00:28:50,093
Speaker 5: of them froment to private school. They have a chance

579
00:28:50,133 --> 00:28:52,733
Speaker 5: in life and our kids have had that and they

580
00:28:52,773 --> 00:28:55,213
Speaker 5: can't make the most of it from a privileged situation.

581
00:28:55,933 --> 00:28:58,613
Speaker 5: That's heerra shoe. But there's other kids that we can help.

582
00:28:58,933 --> 00:29:00,493
Speaker 5: And then we're doing it. We're already doing it now.

583
00:29:00,693 --> 00:29:03,973
Speaker 5: You know that's where we funow anything. We've got the kids.

584
00:29:04,293 --> 00:29:06,293
Speaker 2: What if one of your kids ended up on the street.

585
00:29:07,173 --> 00:29:07,893
Speaker 16: That's the problem.

586
00:29:07,973 --> 00:29:10,053
Speaker 5: That'll be to private school. They've been the universities. I've

587
00:29:10,053 --> 00:29:12,013
Speaker 5: had every chance in life. If you want to go

588
00:29:12,013 --> 00:29:14,133
Speaker 5: and look yourself on mess and be a loser, that's

589
00:29:14,133 --> 00:29:17,013
Speaker 5: your shame. Guard and enjoy yourself. I've done my bit.

590
00:29:17,093 --> 00:29:19,173
Speaker 5: You're turned eighteen, you're on your own. Twenty one, you're

591
00:29:19,213 --> 00:29:22,813
Speaker 5: on your own. You've had everything you wanted, and you

592
00:29:22,853 --> 00:29:24,893
Speaker 5: know you've had good parents, You've got a good mother,

593
00:29:25,053 --> 00:29:28,013
Speaker 5: You've been told the right from wrong. You've had it all.

594
00:29:28,493 --> 00:29:30,213
Speaker 5: Why should I have to keep funding a loser?

595
00:29:31,333 --> 00:29:34,773
Speaker 2: And have you have you told your your kids this?

596
00:29:35,853 --> 00:29:38,653
Speaker 5: Absolutely? But you know the oldest ones, the oldest two

597
00:29:38,693 --> 00:29:41,053
Speaker 5: girls ones are GPS in Melbourne, the other ones a

598
00:29:41,093 --> 00:29:44,253
Speaker 5: north pedic surgeon. The boys he's into I t you know,

599
00:29:44,253 --> 00:29:46,533
Speaker 5: they're all at the top end of They don't need ahead.

600
00:29:46,693 --> 00:29:49,293
Speaker 5: The young ones coming through know what's coming. And I

601
00:29:49,373 --> 00:29:52,493
Speaker 5: had a fourteen year old who attended a private school.

602
00:29:52,773 --> 00:29:54,653
Speaker 5: He was such an arrogant little twat and when he

603
00:29:54,693 --> 00:29:58,373
Speaker 5: found out there is no money. He's actually the soday,

604
00:29:58,413 --> 00:30:00,093
Speaker 5: I better get a job and get a living. It

605
00:30:00,133 --> 00:30:03,573
Speaker 5: actually changed his attitude waiting for the delban tonight.

606
00:30:03,613 --> 00:30:07,253
Speaker 2: There's something quite decreasing about sitting around you haven't succeeded

607
00:30:07,253 --> 00:30:10,533
Speaker 2: in life and just waiting to inherit some money. That

608
00:30:10,973 --> 00:30:13,013
Speaker 2: is no, that is actually no way to live your life.

609
00:30:13,133 --> 00:30:15,533
Speaker 5: No, yeah, no way, no way to live your life.

610
00:30:15,613 --> 00:30:18,093
Speaker 5: And so we've we've outlined, you know, from when they're

611
00:30:18,133 --> 00:30:21,213
Speaker 5: old enough to understand there is no future. My idea,

612
00:30:21,373 --> 00:30:23,413
Speaker 5: my advice to you is get a good education and

613
00:30:23,453 --> 00:30:26,013
Speaker 5: do to with life, because when you've finished university, if

614
00:30:26,013 --> 00:30:29,373
Speaker 5: you go there, you're on your own. You know, you're

615
00:30:29,373 --> 00:30:31,213
Speaker 5: twenty two to twenty three. And if you haven't grown

616
00:30:31,293 --> 00:30:33,573
Speaker 5: up by then, that's not my problem. I've done everything

617
00:30:33,653 --> 00:30:34,373
Speaker 5: to help you out.

618
00:30:34,973 --> 00:30:36,133
Speaker 6: You can lead a horse to water, you.

619
00:30:36,093 --> 00:30:38,613
Speaker 5: Can't make a drink. But there's a whole lot of kids.

620
00:30:38,733 --> 00:30:40,693
Speaker 5: We've got eight kids that we put through private school

621
00:30:40,693 --> 00:30:43,253
Speaker 5: at the moment, we fully fund them and to various

622
00:30:43,253 --> 00:30:46,173
Speaker 5: school around the country from low soci economic and three

623
00:30:46,213 --> 00:30:48,853
Speaker 5: of them have just finished and they're heading off the university.

624
00:30:49,173 --> 00:30:51,253
Speaker 5: And these kids never had a hope and hell of

625
00:30:51,293 --> 00:30:53,653
Speaker 5: success in life. Most of their parents are crackings. Yeah,

626
00:30:54,173 --> 00:30:56,533
Speaker 5: now that's way more warning than leaving your kids a

627
00:30:56,533 --> 00:30:58,213
Speaker 5: whole bunch of money who go there and just and

628
00:30:58,253 --> 00:30:59,333
Speaker 5: they've been dickeeds.

629
00:30:59,333 --> 00:31:01,013
Speaker 2: So have you have? You have this all been gone

630
00:31:01,013 --> 00:31:04,333
Speaker 2: through legals and it's ear tight this well, because we've

631
00:31:04,333 --> 00:31:07,693
Speaker 2: got a text here, it's all tied.

632
00:31:07,613 --> 00:31:10,013
Speaker 5: Up in a trust right so character trust owns everything.

633
00:31:10,013 --> 00:31:11,133
Speaker 2: The kids can't challenge that.

634
00:31:12,013 --> 00:31:14,453
Speaker 5: No, nothing, they can't do nothing, and it's all been

635
00:31:14,493 --> 00:31:16,733
Speaker 5: done many many years ago. They're not being a freshly

636
00:31:16,813 --> 00:31:19,533
Speaker 5: to trust is nothing. I don't own a cracker. And

637
00:31:20,053 --> 00:31:22,613
Speaker 5: you know, like my partner and I, we come to conclusion.

638
00:31:22,693 --> 00:31:24,853
Speaker 5: We've been through the times where we've struggled to kick

639
00:31:24,893 --> 00:31:26,773
Speaker 5: them where they are. We've done our best, you know

640
00:31:26,773 --> 00:31:28,813
Speaker 5: what I mean, work your ars off to keep them

641
00:31:28,853 --> 00:31:31,773
Speaker 5: in that lifestyle. And if they can't benefit from that,

642
00:31:31,813 --> 00:31:33,653
Speaker 5: and if they have to be a pack of oh

643
00:31:33,693 --> 00:31:35,373
Speaker 5: I got a mooth have it because I'm seking around

644
00:31:35,413 --> 00:31:37,253
Speaker 5: with losers. That's not my fault.

645
00:31:38,933 --> 00:31:39,813
Speaker 7: But they have it O.

646
00:31:39,813 --> 00:31:42,813
Speaker 5: Honestly, they haven't. And you know, because they understand that

647
00:31:42,893 --> 00:31:46,293
Speaker 5: there is nothing there from day one there actually they

648
00:31:46,373 --> 00:31:48,173
Speaker 5: endeavor to take the most of it, you know. And

649
00:31:48,413 --> 00:31:50,773
Speaker 5: there's one young fellow who who just sort of said,

650
00:31:50,773 --> 00:31:52,773
Speaker 5: wait until dad dies and because I'm the favorite where

651
00:31:52,773 --> 00:31:55,093
Speaker 5: he thought he was, and when he found out the truth,

652
00:31:55,413 --> 00:31:59,093
Speaker 5: he went from a failure at school to success, you know,

653
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Speaker 5: And and a little bit of that motivation where there

654
00:32:02,093 --> 00:32:03,973
Speaker 5: is no goal near at the end of the rainbow,

655
00:32:04,573 --> 00:32:07,813
Speaker 5: it's your hard work gets you there. And that's what

656
00:32:08,493 --> 00:32:10,893
Speaker 5: we got there because of that. Yeah, if they can't

657
00:32:10,933 --> 00:32:12,813
Speaker 5: achieve what we've achieved because I got given nothing, I

658
00:32:12,893 --> 00:32:14,333
Speaker 5: got given not a cracker.

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Speaker 2: Good on your mind, very means for sharing that.

660
00:32:19,293 --> 00:32:22,053
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a tough, old dead Morris, But look,

661
00:32:22,093 --> 00:32:23,933
Speaker 3: I get the sentiment on the backside of it that

662
00:32:24,053 --> 00:32:26,293
Speaker 3: I think most people when they go through life and

663
00:32:26,333 --> 00:32:29,453
Speaker 3: not say, man, I just can't wait until one dad

664
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Speaker 3: carkeet because I need that money.

665
00:32:30,653 --> 00:32:33,053
Speaker 2: You'd be surprised how lame most people are, Tyler. There's

666
00:32:33,093 --> 00:32:34,813
Speaker 2: a lot of people. I tell you, who's the most

667
00:32:34,813 --> 00:32:37,373
Speaker 2: miserable people you've ever meet? Your trust fund kids? Oh yeah,

668
00:32:37,453 --> 00:32:39,893
Speaker 2: kids that just get money and no one cares less

669
00:32:39,893 --> 00:32:41,653
Speaker 2: about a house than a house that's just been given

670
00:32:41,693 --> 00:32:44,213
Speaker 2: to them by their parents. Exactly. If you haven't if

671
00:32:44,213 --> 00:32:46,173
Speaker 2: you haven't worked for something, then it doesn't mean very

672
00:32:46,253 --> 00:32:48,813
Speaker 2: much to you. Yeah, you know, and that sort of often,

673
00:32:48,933 --> 00:32:51,813
Speaker 2: you know, so tragic tale is old of time. The

674
00:32:51,893 --> 00:32:55,013
Speaker 2: parents that work really, really hard, they create something incredible,

675
00:32:55,213 --> 00:32:56,693
Speaker 2: and then they want to give this life to their

676
00:32:56,773 --> 00:33:00,413
Speaker 2: kids that all the luxuries that they didn't have, and

677
00:33:00,453 --> 00:33:02,653
Speaker 2: then their kids just turn their life into a living

678
00:33:02,693 --> 00:33:04,653
Speaker 2: hell because they don't have any purpose.

679
00:33:04,973 --> 00:33:08,293
Speaker 3: Exactly, Ultimate irony. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

680
00:33:08,493 --> 00:33:11,373
Speaker 3: is the number to call. It is quarter to two.

681
00:33:11,413 --> 00:33:13,213
Speaker 3: We'll come back with more of your phone calls shortly.

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00:33:13,373 --> 00:33:17,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're asking the question, should you give more more

683
00:33:17,733 --> 00:33:20,573
Speaker 2: in a will to a child that hasn't doing as

684
00:33:20,573 --> 00:33:23,173
Speaker 2: well as and less to the ones that have done

685
00:33:23,333 --> 00:33:26,013
Speaker 2: very well? Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two

686
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Speaker 2: ninety two.

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00:33:28,973 --> 00:33:32,813
Speaker 1: Your new home of Afternoon Talk Matt and Tayler Afternoon

688
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Speaker 1: with the Volvo XC ninety turn every journey into something special.

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Speaker 7: Call eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be good afternoon, twelve to two. And we've asked

691
00:33:43,133 --> 00:33:45,653
Speaker 3: the question, should you provide more for a financially worse

692
00:33:45,653 --> 00:33:48,613
Speaker 3: off child in your will than other children who may

693
00:33:48,653 --> 00:33:49,653
Speaker 3: have done pretty well in life.

694
00:33:49,813 --> 00:33:52,493
Speaker 2: Some great teas coming through this. Texas says Hi, Tyler.

695
00:33:52,533 --> 00:33:54,173
Speaker 2: I don't know why this. Kevin's not talking to me,

696
00:33:54,173 --> 00:33:55,573
Speaker 2: He's just talking to you. So this is just for you,

697
00:33:55,653 --> 00:33:59,773
Speaker 2: this text, tylerkare we go listening? Kevin? I won't answer it. Hey, Tyler.

698
00:33:59,813 --> 00:34:01,933
Speaker 2: I was in a split family and when the last

699
00:34:01,973 --> 00:34:05,933
Speaker 2: parent passed, the parents own owning was fifty to fifty,

700
00:34:06,333 --> 00:34:09,213
Speaker 2: so their half went to their children in their family,

701
00:34:09,493 --> 00:34:11,853
Speaker 2: and we went to court and the outcome was whatever they

702
00:34:11,893 --> 00:34:15,252
Speaker 2: wanted in their half of the state. State. Okay, See

703
00:34:15,253 --> 00:34:16,813
Speaker 2: that's directed you. This is why I've made it quite

704
00:34:16,813 --> 00:34:18,493
Speaker 2: clear it's directed to you. Because I can't understand it.

705
00:34:18,493 --> 00:34:19,293
Speaker 2: I need a pen and paper.

706
00:34:19,333 --> 00:34:22,133
Speaker 3: He did also spell Tyler with an A, which I'm

707
00:34:22,133 --> 00:34:23,212
Speaker 3: not even go, Kevin, but.

708
00:34:23,133 --> 00:34:27,173
Speaker 2: Like Tyler's an er. Yeah. Okay, So in the split family,

709
00:34:27,333 --> 00:34:31,213
Speaker 2: and when the last parent passed, the parents.

710
00:34:30,893 --> 00:34:36,013
Speaker 3: Owning was fifty to fifty, so half went to their

711
00:34:36,133 --> 00:34:39,093
Speaker 3: children and their family, right, Okay. Then it went to

712
00:34:39,133 --> 00:34:41,893
Speaker 3: court and then the outcome was whatever they wanted in

713
00:34:42,253 --> 00:34:46,573
Speaker 3: their half of the estate. Okay, Well we're going to

714
00:34:46,613 --> 00:34:48,773
Speaker 3: try and analyze that. But it sounded like anything that

715
00:34:48,813 --> 00:34:50,533
Speaker 3: goes to court. When it comes to family, it's not

716
00:34:50,573 --> 00:34:51,173
Speaker 3: a good time.

717
00:34:51,573 --> 00:34:54,053
Speaker 2: I grew up with one sibling. As young adults, we

718
00:34:54,093 --> 00:34:57,773
Speaker 2: found out my biological father's adopted my sibling as a baby,

719
00:34:58,013 --> 00:35:00,133
Speaker 2: but it was always assumed my dad was the father

720
00:35:00,253 --> 00:35:03,652
Speaker 2: of us both. My older sibling was put out. They

721
00:35:03,653 --> 00:35:06,053
Speaker 2: weren't told fair enough, but that's how it was in

722
00:35:06,093 --> 00:35:11,373
Speaker 2: those days, and our grandparents arranged the adoption. As a consequence,

723
00:35:11,413 --> 00:35:13,813
Speaker 2: my sibling changed their surname and protest. My father is

724
00:35:13,893 --> 00:35:17,173
Speaker 2: hurt and now says this year of the matrimonial state

725
00:35:17,413 --> 00:35:19,652
Speaker 2: will go only to me, and my mother's year will

726
00:35:19,653 --> 00:35:22,373
Speaker 2: go be fifty to fifty between my sibling and I.

727
00:35:22,453 --> 00:35:24,733
Speaker 2: This will all come out after the parents are deceased.

728
00:35:24,933 --> 00:35:27,093
Speaker 2: It will be an unwelcome surprise. See that's going to

729
00:35:27,173 --> 00:35:30,573
Speaker 2: be Yeah, jeez.

730
00:35:30,213 --> 00:35:32,053
Speaker 3: I got a question I want to throw in just

731
00:35:32,093 --> 00:35:33,853
Speaker 3: before we get to No. Let's go to John first

732
00:35:33,853 --> 00:35:34,813
Speaker 3: and then I'll ask the question.

733
00:35:35,653 --> 00:35:37,652
Speaker 2: John, you want to talk about traveling without a will.

734
00:35:39,053 --> 00:35:39,333
Speaker 15: Yes.

735
00:35:40,693 --> 00:35:44,732
Speaker 9: I had a son who, at the age of twenty two,

736
00:35:45,053 --> 00:35:47,013
Speaker 9: I said, put a pack on your back and go

737
00:35:47,093 --> 00:35:51,373
Speaker 9: and see the world, which he did, and he had

738
00:35:51,413 --> 00:35:57,333
Speaker 9: a wonderful time. Saw the world, married to a lovely

739
00:35:57,373 --> 00:36:04,453
Speaker 9: English girl, but sadly died from natural causes at the

740
00:36:04,493 --> 00:36:09,053
Speaker 9: age of thirty six, living with his living his English

741
00:36:09,093 --> 00:36:14,773
Speaker 9: wife in Spain. Now, under Spanish law, if you don't

742
00:36:14,813 --> 00:36:24,213
Speaker 9: have a will, everything goes to the oldest male relative,

743
00:36:24,533 --> 00:36:29,813
Speaker 9: which in that case was me, and his wife would

744
00:36:29,813 --> 00:36:34,652
Speaker 9: not have received his half share of the house they

745
00:36:34,733 --> 00:36:43,172
Speaker 9: owned in New Yorker. So it cost me about six

746
00:36:43,293 --> 00:36:48,813
Speaker 9: or seven thousand dollars through a law firm to say

747
00:36:48,893 --> 00:36:54,573
Speaker 9: to the authorities in Spain, I'm not making any claim

748
00:36:54,653 --> 00:36:58,333
Speaker 9: upon my son's estate. It all must go to his wife,

749
00:36:59,093 --> 00:37:02,853
Speaker 9: which July happened. But it costs a lot of money.

750
00:37:02,893 --> 00:37:05,853
Speaker 9: And these kids go off overseas and they don't have

751
00:37:05,893 --> 00:37:09,013
Speaker 9: a will, and who knows what's going to happen in

752
00:37:09,413 --> 00:37:13,652
Speaker 9: five years time. So I'm just putting that out there

753
00:37:13,773 --> 00:37:15,173
Speaker 9: for a good consideration. Y.

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00:37:15,333 --> 00:37:17,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, thank you for that. And that's an

755
00:37:17,853 --> 00:37:20,933
Speaker 2: absolute tragedy that that situation. So sorry to hear that.

756
00:37:21,333 --> 00:37:24,413
Speaker 2: When abouts was this John? Like what when?

757
00:37:24,653 --> 00:37:28,093
Speaker 9: When was? He died in two thousand and nine?

758
00:37:28,733 --> 00:37:31,533
Speaker 2: Right, so that's and is that still the law in Spain?

759
00:37:32,453 --> 00:37:35,093
Speaker 9: Well, I can't answer.

760
00:37:35,373 --> 00:37:36,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll look that up.

761
00:37:36,933 --> 00:37:39,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's a good word of warning there and yeah,

762
00:37:39,693 --> 00:37:41,973
Speaker 3: seven thousand dollars to say, hey, this isn't right. It

763
00:37:41,973 --> 00:37:44,213
Speaker 3: should go to my son's wife. That does feel a

764
00:37:44,213 --> 00:37:45,212
Speaker 3: bit on the nose, doesn't it?

765
00:37:45,653 --> 00:37:48,453
Speaker 2: A will's international? So if I write a will and

766
00:37:48,453 --> 00:37:52,253
Speaker 2: then I go and live in I don't know China,

767
00:37:52,293 --> 00:37:56,613
Speaker 2: does is my will upheld for my assets over there?

768
00:37:56,693 --> 00:37:59,533
Speaker 2: Great Queen New Zealand will if you are does the

769
00:37:59,573 --> 00:38:01,333
Speaker 2: will have to be be interested to hear from an

770
00:38:01,333 --> 00:38:02,973
Speaker 2: expert on this? Or does the will have to be

771
00:38:03,013 --> 00:38:06,253
Speaker 2: created in the country that you're in through their law

772
00:38:06,933 --> 00:38:09,933
Speaker 2: Because I might have just my little well from my

773
00:38:09,973 --> 00:38:12,533
Speaker 2: little Donner's will traveling.

774
00:38:12,133 --> 00:38:15,053
Speaker 3: The world with the second spain from my local.

775
00:38:14,813 --> 00:38:17,692
Speaker 2: Family lawyer, and then it doesn't mean anything around the world.

776
00:38:17,853 --> 00:38:18,813
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you know.

777
00:38:18,853 --> 00:38:21,053
Speaker 3: I'd love to hear from your nine to nine to two.

778
00:38:21,613 --> 00:38:25,013
Speaker 3: It is seven to two back very shortly. Worth a

779
00:38:25,013 --> 00:38:25,733
Speaker 3: few more techs.

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00:38:27,733 --> 00:38:31,373
Speaker 1: Mattiath Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred and

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Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo

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00:38:34,733 --> 00:38:38,853
Speaker 1: XC ninety tick every box, a seamless experience, awaits news

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00:38:38,853 --> 00:38:39,413
Speaker 1: talks me.

784
00:38:41,253 --> 00:38:42,053
Speaker 2: Good afternoon.

785
00:38:42,133 --> 00:38:44,653
Speaker 3: It is five to two, and a great discussion about

786
00:38:44,693 --> 00:38:48,013
Speaker 3: wills and what you should leave your children when you pass,

787
00:38:48,053 --> 00:38:50,533
Speaker 3: particularly the ones that haven't done so well in life financially.

788
00:38:50,653 --> 00:38:50,853
Speaker 5: Yeah.

789
00:38:50,853 --> 00:38:52,893
Speaker 2: So we're going to get on to the topic of

790
00:38:54,253 --> 00:38:57,373
Speaker 2: doomsday bunkers and doomsday prepping in New Zealand because there's

791
00:38:57,453 --> 00:38:59,973
Speaker 2: been revealed that some big money has been spent underground

792
00:39:00,013 --> 00:39:04,653
Speaker 2: here from some big doomsday prepper companies, if that's the

793
00:39:04,653 --> 00:39:06,413
Speaker 2: way you describe it, and so we'll get to that

794
00:39:06,453 --> 00:39:09,493
Speaker 2: in the next hour. I talk about that one hundred

795
00:39:10,093 --> 00:39:14,333
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty ten eight eight hundred eighty ten eighty

796
00:39:14,413 --> 00:39:16,653
Speaker 2: now look perfect. Yeah, it's but we've also got a

797
00:39:16,693 --> 00:39:18,973
Speaker 2: little couple more texts on the wells as well that

798
00:39:19,013 --> 00:39:21,733
Speaker 2: we need to get through. So yeah, yeah, bit of

799
00:39:21,733 --> 00:39:22,853
Speaker 2: a hangover on that topic as well.

800
00:39:22,893 --> 00:39:25,493
Speaker 3: Absolutely, there's been some great stories and we'd be remiss

801
00:39:25,613 --> 00:39:27,373
Speaker 3: not to get to them via text.

802
00:39:27,413 --> 00:39:28,533
Speaker 2: So that is coming up.

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00:39:28,533 --> 00:39:30,813
Speaker 3: Great to have your company as always your listening to

804
00:39:30,973 --> 00:39:33,373
Speaker 3: Matt and Tyler. Hope you're having a great Monday afternoon.

805
00:39:33,373 --> 00:39:35,933
Speaker 3: We certainly are new Sport and weather on its way.

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Speaker 7: Today.

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00:39:50,613 --> 00:39:53,732
Speaker 2: Oh aren't you I need you old God, HI.

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00:39:55,213 --> 00:40:02,813
Speaker 7: Need it's beautiful things. Are talking with you all afternoon.

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00:40:03,053 --> 00:40:06,373
Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons with the Volvo

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00:40:06,693 --> 00:40:07,973
Speaker 1: XC ninety News Talks.

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Speaker 3: B Good afternoon, Do you welcome back into the show now?

812
00:40:12,413 --> 00:40:15,053
Speaker 3: Just before we move on to the next topic about

813
00:40:15,053 --> 00:40:19,373
Speaker 3: doomsday bunkers, we'd be remiss not to get through a

814
00:40:19,453 --> 00:40:21,813
Speaker 3: few of the stories about Wilves that was sent our way.

815
00:40:21,933 --> 00:40:23,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got a whole lot of texts coming through.

816
00:40:24,133 --> 00:40:26,212
Speaker 2: Interesting topic. I'm on the process of sorting out our

817
00:40:26,253 --> 00:40:28,493
Speaker 2: will at the moment, and one of my four kers

818
00:40:28,533 --> 00:40:31,813
Speaker 2: has an intellectual disability, so he is economic disadvantage compared

819
00:40:31,813 --> 00:40:34,293
Speaker 2: with the other three. So we will have to set

820
00:40:34,413 --> 00:40:36,812
Speaker 2: up our trust to look after him and then look

821
00:40:36,853 --> 00:40:39,172
Speaker 2: after the others. I feel I need to be fair

822
00:40:39,213 --> 00:40:41,853
Speaker 2: with them all. However, a question for you boys to

823
00:40:41,933 --> 00:40:44,853
Speaker 2: raise what happens if you just have one child who

824
00:40:44,893 --> 00:40:47,773
Speaker 2: isn't as extreme in needs as mine, but maybe they

825
00:40:47,813 --> 00:40:50,053
Speaker 2: haven't been able to go to university or get a

826
00:40:50,093 --> 00:40:53,933
Speaker 2: head through having a learning disability, so they are disadvantage

827
00:40:53,973 --> 00:40:56,212
Speaker 2: in life. I mean, that's the big question, isn't it.

828
00:40:56,533 --> 00:41:01,453
Speaker 2: So how do you work out the Yeah, how do

829
00:41:01,493 --> 00:41:03,813
Speaker 2: you work out how much someone needs and how much

830
00:41:03,813 --> 00:41:07,093
Speaker 2: someone else needs, and whether they deserve it more or less.

831
00:41:07,533 --> 00:41:09,413
Speaker 2: You know, it's a big call to not go just

832
00:41:09,533 --> 00:41:11,413
Speaker 2: equal even Stevens on everything, isn't there?

833
00:41:11,493 --> 00:41:13,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean thinking back and that is a very

834
00:41:14,333 --> 00:41:18,053
Speaker 3: unique situation there. But thinking back to one of the callers, Emma,

835
00:41:18,173 --> 00:41:21,093
Speaker 3: and it got a bit messy. Worth the step siblings

836
00:41:21,173 --> 00:41:24,693
Speaker 3: and the biological children. But if the person in question

837
00:41:24,773 --> 00:41:27,813
Speaker 3: said in the will, you're all getting an even share.

838
00:41:28,413 --> 00:41:32,013
Speaker 3: But to the biological child, I need you to look

839
00:41:32,093 --> 00:41:35,333
Speaker 3: after the step children. If they run into any financial

840
00:41:35,373 --> 00:41:38,053
Speaker 3: difficulty in life, you have to look after them.

841
00:41:38,053 --> 00:41:43,493
Speaker 2: Good luck the needs. We're talking about international wills. If

842
00:41:43,493 --> 00:41:45,493
Speaker 2: you make them will overseas, the will needs to be

843
00:41:45,533 --> 00:41:47,573
Speaker 2: created in the country where their assets are owned. If

844
00:41:47,573 --> 00:41:50,733
Speaker 2: there are children guardians involved, there will be tax implications,

845
00:41:50,733 --> 00:41:54,013
Speaker 2: so worth doing the country of beneficiaries. Also, Yeah, we're

846
00:41:54,013 --> 00:41:56,853
Speaker 2: talking about having a will overseas. Yeah. So we've got

847
00:41:56,853 --> 00:41:59,652
Speaker 2: so many on that topic, but we have to move on.

848
00:41:59,773 --> 00:42:00,253
Speaker 2: I'm afraid.

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00:42:00,813 --> 00:42:04,293
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just looking at one more. Okay, because this

850
00:42:04,453 --> 00:42:06,253
Speaker 3: caught my attention straight away, it's just come in.

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00:42:06,373 --> 00:42:08,373
Speaker 2: Please read first. This is still very raw.

852
00:42:08,693 --> 00:42:12,453
Speaker 3: And why I won't phone in. My sister died in Australia,

853
00:42:12,453 --> 00:42:15,133
Speaker 3: where she'd lived for over forty years. She had given

854
00:42:15,133 --> 00:42:19,893
Speaker 3: instructions to another sibling that that sibling was to acquire

855
00:42:20,013 --> 00:42:22,373
Speaker 3: an estate in the event of her death. When my

856
00:42:22,653 --> 00:42:27,333
Speaker 3: sister died, the sibling purported to have a poa and

857
00:42:27,533 --> 00:42:30,533
Speaker 3: a will. They did not, So when I advise the

858
00:42:30,573 --> 00:42:33,853
Speaker 3: existence of an old will, that proverbial hit the fan.

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00:42:34,013 --> 00:42:40,212
Speaker 3: Despite discussing with her lawyer and the person relinquishing any

860
00:42:40,213 --> 00:42:42,933
Speaker 3: soul benefit from the will, it was decided not to

861
00:42:42,973 --> 00:42:46,333
Speaker 3: invoke it as there were no New Zealand assets involved.

862
00:42:46,533 --> 00:42:50,333
Speaker 3: This way, a small degree of family was retained, but

863
00:42:50,413 --> 00:42:52,413
Speaker 3: incredibly hurtful and messy all around.

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00:42:52,693 --> 00:42:57,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, my god, just I mean, I guess if you can,

865
00:42:57,693 --> 00:43:00,053
Speaker 2: it's get a will together you're happy with and discuss

866
00:43:00,173 --> 00:43:01,933
Speaker 2: with everyone what you're going to do. Because I think

867
00:43:01,933 --> 00:43:07,053
Speaker 2: in the case of you know that the intellectually disabled

868
00:43:07,213 --> 00:43:10,493
Speaker 2: child who doesn't have the same chance of succeeding in life,

869
00:43:10,933 --> 00:43:15,693
Speaker 2: I think the other siblings would surely understand that money

870
00:43:15,733 --> 00:43:19,413
Speaker 2: needs to be put aside for that person's care in life.

871
00:43:19,413 --> 00:43:21,773
Speaker 2: You know, it's just a matter of making the world

872
00:43:21,853 --> 00:43:25,333
Speaker 2: and discussing it with everyone, so has no massive hurtful

873
00:43:25,373 --> 00:43:28,413
Speaker 2: surprises on your passing, because that's a horrible thing to

874
00:43:28,493 --> 00:43:31,173
Speaker 2: leave the world, isn't it. Definitely you've gone from this

875
00:43:31,253 --> 00:43:34,973
Speaker 2: world and you're leaving just acrimony and hatred that could

876
00:43:35,053 --> 00:43:36,133
Speaker 2: last a very long time.

877
00:43:36,213 --> 00:43:39,373
Speaker 3: Yeap spot on. Good discussion, Thank you very much. But

878
00:43:39,493 --> 00:43:42,493
Speaker 3: let's move on to another topic, and this one's going

879
00:43:42,533 --> 00:43:44,213
Speaker 3: to be a doozy doomsday bunkers.

880
00:43:44,333 --> 00:43:46,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, an underground doomsday bunker has been built in New

881
00:43:46,933 --> 00:43:51,093
Speaker 2: Zealand by US based company Safe that has been confirmed.

882
00:43:51,733 --> 00:43:55,053
Speaker 2: The entry level for such bunkers is one point seventy

883
00:43:55,053 --> 00:43:58,573
Speaker 2: five million. There's been a lot of speculation, as you know,

884
00:43:58,653 --> 00:44:01,333
Speaker 2: for a while that super rich Silicon Valley tech entrepreneurs

885
00:44:01,893 --> 00:44:04,493
Speaker 2: have ship survival bunkers out here, and there was rumors

886
00:44:04,533 --> 00:44:08,613
Speaker 2: that was one near Queenstown. But then Mayor of queen Down,

887
00:44:08,693 --> 00:44:11,613
Speaker 2: Jim Bolt, when these rumors were going around in twenty twenty, said,

888
00:44:11,613 --> 00:44:13,773
Speaker 2: to be honest, it makes me laugh because I'm unaware

889
00:44:13,853 --> 00:44:17,413
Speaker 2: of any bunkers. Looks like there are there is at

890
00:44:17,493 --> 00:44:21,973
Speaker 2: least one bunker, and these bunkers now are pretty crazy.

891
00:44:23,053 --> 00:44:25,853
Speaker 2: The fortified private properties can come with staggering array of

892
00:44:25,893 --> 00:44:33,253
Speaker 2: innovations and luxury features from biometrically activated shotgun walls, hydroponic pods,

893
00:44:33,293 --> 00:44:38,373
Speaker 2: decontamination chambers, fully equipped surgical theaters, gourmet dining kitchens, indoor

894
00:44:38,413 --> 00:44:42,773
Speaker 2: climbing walls and gyms, gun rangers, swimming pools, and even

895
00:44:42,813 --> 00:44:46,893
Speaker 2: if one style racing circuits. About twenty years ago, technology

896
00:44:46,933 --> 00:44:49,413
Speaker 2: reached a point where living in an underground shelter wasn't

897
00:44:49,453 --> 00:44:54,573
Speaker 2: only possible, it was comfortable. So this is the CEO

898
00:44:54,853 --> 00:45:00,333
Speaker 2: of the president of a US based company safe strategically

899
00:45:00,493 --> 00:45:05,053
Speaker 2: armored and fortified environments, Albert Coolby, and he says that

900
00:45:06,053 --> 00:45:08,493
Speaker 2: you can basically live in these bunkers for fifth the

901
00:45:08,573 --> 00:45:11,973
Speaker 2: years in a beautiful quality of life. He believes that

902
00:45:12,053 --> 00:45:14,933
Speaker 2: humans can stay completely secure with everything they need for

903
00:45:14,973 --> 00:45:18,213
Speaker 2: fifty years or more with out sacrifice in the quality

904
00:45:18,253 --> 00:45:21,733
Speaker 2: of life. So I guess the question is do you

905
00:45:21,813 --> 00:45:25,733
Speaker 2: think you need a bunker? Would you spend money on

906
00:45:25,773 --> 00:45:27,533
Speaker 2: a bunker if you could, if you had the money?

907
00:45:27,733 --> 00:45:29,893
Speaker 2: You think the world's going in such a way? And

908
00:45:29,933 --> 00:45:32,053
Speaker 2: what do you need a bunker from? In New Zealand?

909
00:45:32,453 --> 00:45:34,493
Speaker 3: It's a good question, I mean part of it. When

910
00:45:34,493 --> 00:45:36,893
Speaker 3: I read this story, I think, thank god I live

911
00:45:36,933 --> 00:45:40,013
Speaker 3: in New Zealand, that all these super wealthy individuals are

912
00:45:40,053 --> 00:45:43,133
Speaker 3: looking here for a wee bolt hole. And you know,

913
00:45:43,133 --> 00:45:44,812
Speaker 3: I thought it was kind of funny that the former

914
00:45:44,893 --> 00:45:48,413
Speaker 3: mayor of Queen's tangent bolt saying nothing gets past me.

915
00:45:48,493 --> 00:45:49,893
Speaker 2: I'd know about it. No, you wouldn't.

916
00:45:49,933 --> 00:45:51,613
Speaker 3: These are billionaires, you know. Do you know how much

917
00:45:51,693 --> 00:45:54,173
Speaker 3: money a billion is. If they want to do something,

918
00:45:54,173 --> 00:45:55,733
Speaker 3: they'll find a way to do it secretly.

919
00:45:55,773 --> 00:45:57,773
Speaker 2: Yes, So what are the threats? So you have a bunker,

920
00:45:58,133 --> 00:46:01,613
Speaker 2: say there is a you know, traditionally we think about

921
00:46:01,653 --> 00:46:04,973
Speaker 2: a doomsday bunker and people prepping for nuclear war, right,

922
00:46:05,373 --> 00:46:07,453
Speaker 2: so it's unlikely that anyone's going to bother wasting one

923
00:46:07,453 --> 00:46:10,172
Speaker 2: of their nukes on us zusan Yeah, but you could

924
00:46:10,253 --> 00:46:15,293
Speaker 2: have societal collapse, you could have you know, they talk

925
00:46:15,293 --> 00:46:18,652
Speaker 2: about the winter, the cold winters and the fallouts that

926
00:46:18,653 --> 00:46:21,693
Speaker 2: that happen. So are you are you hanging out in

927
00:46:21,693 --> 00:46:25,573
Speaker 2: your bunker underground while society falls? Do you? You know

928
00:46:25,693 --> 00:46:28,373
Speaker 2: they're talking about having a gun range. Do you are

929
00:46:28,413 --> 00:46:30,973
Speaker 2: you armed up? Are you and wanting to go under

930
00:46:31,013 --> 00:46:33,733
Speaker 2: ground and arm up and fight anyone that tries to

931
00:46:33,733 --> 00:46:36,253
Speaker 2: get into your bunker? And you know, where do you

932
00:46:36,293 --> 00:46:38,493
Speaker 2: put your bunker? Has it better to have a bunker

933
00:46:38,533 --> 00:46:40,453
Speaker 2: on your property or is it better to have a

934
00:46:40,453 --> 00:46:42,213
Speaker 2: bolt hole that you know, you head off into the

935
00:46:42,213 --> 00:46:43,653
Speaker 2: bush where no one knows where it is. Have you

936
00:46:43,733 --> 00:46:44,213
Speaker 2: thought about it?

937
00:46:44,253 --> 00:46:46,573
Speaker 3: The idea of having a bunker somewhere doesn't have to

938
00:46:46,573 --> 00:46:47,413
Speaker 3: be in your beck garden.

939
00:46:47,813 --> 00:46:49,652
Speaker 2: I have thought a lot about a bunker. Yeah, I

940
00:46:49,653 --> 00:46:52,933
Speaker 2: don't currently have the wherewithals to buy a bunk to

941
00:46:52,933 --> 00:46:56,093
Speaker 2: make a bunker, you know, I've been looking at properties

942
00:46:56,133 --> 00:46:57,732
Speaker 2: that might need a septic tank, but it's not quite

943
00:46:57,733 --> 00:47:00,493
Speaker 2: the same thing. It's an underground kind of kind of thing.

944
00:47:00,973 --> 00:47:04,173
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know. Is it better to just

945
00:47:06,333 --> 00:47:08,733
Speaker 2: you know, he's saying that you can live a beautiful

946
00:47:08,933 --> 00:47:12,933
Speaker 2: life like a with fifty years in a bunker without

947
00:47:12,933 --> 00:47:14,853
Speaker 2: losing quality of life? I mean anyone as a lot

948
00:47:14,853 --> 00:47:18,413
Speaker 2: of people are texting through silos. Yeah, in the TV

949
00:47:18,453 --> 00:47:22,533
Speaker 2: show Silo. I mean that's a that's a life underground.

950
00:47:22,613 --> 00:47:25,053
Speaker 2: But is it a quality of life? I mean, would

951
00:47:25,053 --> 00:47:27,013
Speaker 2: it be it? Would it be better to just be

952
00:47:27,173 --> 00:47:30,373
Speaker 2: up there fighting it out with everyone else in the

953
00:47:30,373 --> 00:47:32,173
Speaker 2: case of societal collapse?

954
00:47:32,253 --> 00:47:34,453
Speaker 3: I do love sunlight. Slight is a good thing for

955
00:47:34,573 --> 00:47:37,733
Speaker 3: human beings. Fifty years underground, that's a hell of a

956
00:47:37,773 --> 00:47:38,093
Speaker 3: long time.

957
00:47:38,173 --> 00:47:40,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you've got artificial lights, you've got the full

958
00:47:40,853 --> 00:47:44,533
Speaker 2: spectrum bulbs. You know, you've got virtual reality.

959
00:47:45,693 --> 00:47:48,333
Speaker 3: Just just looking at what this u Is based company's

960
00:47:48,333 --> 00:47:52,053
Speaker 3: safe is looking to do. This three hundred million dollar

961
00:47:52,133 --> 00:47:56,613
Speaker 3: network of those uber luxurious underground residential bunkers across fifty

962
00:47:56,653 --> 00:48:00,693
Speaker 3: Yuis cities and a planned one thousand affiliate global locations.

963
00:48:00,693 --> 00:48:01,933
Speaker 3: That is real light fall out.

964
00:48:01,773 --> 00:48:02,133
Speaker 2: Isn't it.

965
00:48:02,253 --> 00:48:05,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, fifty locations around New Zealand that you can be

966
00:48:05,253 --> 00:48:06,813
Speaker 3: a part of if you've got the membership.

967
00:48:06,933 --> 00:48:08,813
Speaker 2: But there's no good having a bunk if people know

968
00:48:08,813 --> 00:48:10,213
Speaker 2: where the bunker is, because they're going to try and

969
00:48:10,253 --> 00:48:11,813
Speaker 2: get into the bunker with you, right, So it has

970
00:48:11,853 --> 00:48:15,133
Speaker 2: to be completely and utterly secret, which is interesting when

971
00:48:15,173 --> 00:48:17,133
Speaker 2: you talk to the Queenstown Mire and that was back

972
00:48:17,133 --> 00:48:20,213
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, he knows nothing about it. But if

973
00:48:20,253 --> 00:48:24,373
Speaker 2: you build a bunker and it gets counsel approval, people

974
00:48:24,453 --> 00:48:26,613
Speaker 2: will know. Even if it's just the guy from the

975
00:48:26,613 --> 00:48:29,413
Speaker 2: council that gave you the approval, he's suddenly turning up

976
00:48:29,413 --> 00:48:31,013
Speaker 2: with the crowbar trying to get into your bunker.

977
00:48:31,133 --> 00:48:34,093
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, eight one hundred eighty ten eighty. Love to

978
00:48:34,133 --> 00:48:37,453
Speaker 3: hear from you on this. Have you thought about looking

979
00:48:37,493 --> 00:48:39,973
Speaker 3: at a bunker for your own property or indeed.

980
00:48:39,613 --> 00:48:40,973
Speaker 2: Somewhere are around New Zealand?

981
00:48:40,973 --> 00:48:43,933
Speaker 3: And how do we feel about these billionaires building bunkers

982
00:48:43,933 --> 00:48:45,373
Speaker 3: in New Zealand. I've got no problem with them.

983
00:48:45,493 --> 00:48:47,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I want to find out with r and

984
00:48:47,413 --> 00:48:49,293
Speaker 2: I'll be cracking that open as soon as the first

985
00:48:49,293 --> 00:48:50,733
Speaker 2: bomb goes up, and I'll be getting in there and

986
00:48:50,733 --> 00:48:52,973
Speaker 2: I'll be hanging out with them. That's the silicon. Fairly

987
00:48:53,293 --> 00:48:55,213
Speaker 2: entreneurs make space for me and my kids.

988
00:48:55,693 --> 00:48:58,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, all right, let's get into this. Love to

989
00:48:58,413 --> 00:49:00,693
Speaker 3: hear from you on oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

990
00:49:00,733 --> 00:49:02,732
Speaker 3: There's some great texts already coming through. If you want

991
00:49:02,733 --> 00:49:04,933
Speaker 3: to teach you more than welcome. Nine to nine two.

992
00:49:05,133 --> 00:49:06,573
Speaker 3: It is sixteen past two.

993
00:49:07,453 --> 00:49:11,773
Speaker 1: Wow, your new home of Afternoon Talk Matt and Taylor

994
00:49:11,893 --> 00:49:15,573
Speaker 1: Afternoon with the Volvo XC ninety turn every journey into

995
00:49:15,813 --> 00:49:19,252
Speaker 1: something special. Call eight hundred eighty eight News Talk.

996
00:49:19,333 --> 00:49:19,773
Speaker 7: Say'd be.

997
00:49:21,613 --> 00:49:22,893
Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Jue.

998
00:49:22,933 --> 00:49:25,493
Speaker 3: We're talking about doomsday bunkers in New Zealand on the

999
00:49:25,493 --> 00:49:28,493
Speaker 3: back of one company confirming for the first time that

1000
00:49:28,573 --> 00:49:31,653
Speaker 3: they have built at least one bunker in New Zealand

1001
00:49:31,693 --> 00:49:32,453
Speaker 3: for a wealthy client.

1002
00:49:32,493 --> 00:49:35,453
Speaker 2: I'd like to hear from Tradees on eight hundred and

1003
00:49:35,493 --> 00:49:37,653
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty. Do you think it would be possible

1004
00:49:37,693 --> 00:49:39,772
Speaker 2: to build a bunker in New Zealand without anyone knowing,

1005
00:49:39,853 --> 00:49:43,293
Speaker 2: without gossip getting out the amount of regulation we have here,

1006
00:49:43,693 --> 00:49:47,293
Speaker 2: ken trucks and you know, diggers go into an area

1007
00:49:47,493 --> 00:49:49,533
Speaker 2: and all the various things that need to be in

1008
00:49:49,573 --> 00:49:52,573
Speaker 2: a bunker be bought and placed without anyone knowing where

1009
00:49:52,613 --> 00:49:55,133
Speaker 2: that bunker was, So we don't have any information with it.

1010
00:49:55,133 --> 00:49:57,413
Speaker 2: It's confirmed that there is a bunker in New Zealand

1011
00:49:57,453 --> 00:49:59,893
Speaker 2: and it's been built by a bunker building company. We're

1012
00:49:59,933 --> 00:50:03,133
Speaker 2: trying to get hold of the president of the bunker

1013
00:50:03,133 --> 00:50:06,093
Speaker 2: building company and ask him. He's called a president and

1014
00:50:06,093 --> 00:50:08,173
Speaker 2: the the reason I read it as a president, Albert

1015
00:50:08,653 --> 00:50:09,013
Speaker 2: is his name.

1016
00:50:10,053 --> 00:50:12,893
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, can you really imagine so, say

1017
00:50:13,093 --> 00:50:15,333
Speaker 3: it was being built in Queenstown or the west coast

1018
00:50:15,333 --> 00:50:18,573
Speaker 3: of the South Island. Do you really think that there

1019
00:50:18,613 --> 00:50:23,333
Speaker 3: are local tradees and builders and landscapers that would be

1020
00:50:23,333 --> 00:50:25,493
Speaker 3: able to keep that a secret. All it takes is

1021
00:50:25,973 --> 00:50:27,893
Speaker 3: one big night down at the local pub and all

1022
00:50:27,893 --> 00:50:28,333
Speaker 3: he boys.

1023
00:50:28,733 --> 00:50:32,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone knows where everything's happening. You know, everything's going

1024
00:50:32,413 --> 00:50:34,373
Speaker 2: in New Zealand. We're a more small country like that.

1025
00:50:34,453 --> 00:50:36,733
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what happened to Elaine my far in

1026
00:50:36,773 --> 00:50:39,493
Speaker 2: Dominic pre year, wasn't it. They thought that New Zealand

1027
00:50:39,773 --> 00:50:42,293
Speaker 2: was you know, I don't know what they thought, but

1028
00:50:42,333 --> 00:50:44,413
Speaker 2: they got here and everyone immediately, oh, they're probably doing

1029
00:50:44,413 --> 00:50:46,253
Speaker 2: something weird and reported them to the police. You know,

1030
00:50:46,293 --> 00:50:48,413
Speaker 2: we know everything in New Zealand. If there's someone driving

1031
00:50:48,493 --> 00:50:50,493
Speaker 2: up a gravel road, if there's a lot of stuff,

1032
00:50:50,613 --> 00:50:52,773
Speaker 2: a lot of interesting stuff being bought and shipped into

1033
00:50:52,773 --> 00:50:54,933
Speaker 2: the country and going up a gravel road, then we

1034
00:50:55,013 --> 00:50:57,133
Speaker 2: know or a billionaires just able to do that kind

1035
00:50:57,133 --> 00:51:00,253
Speaker 2: of thing, but a billionsnaires have the wherewithal to just

1036
00:51:00,333 --> 00:51:03,093
Speaker 2: circumvent everything to the point where they could build one

1037
00:51:03,093 --> 00:51:04,773
Speaker 2: of these bunkers that you can live in for fifty

1038
00:51:04,853 --> 00:51:06,773
Speaker 2: years without anyone in this country.

1039
00:51:06,853 --> 00:51:10,333
Speaker 3: Nine odd eight ten eighty is the number to call

1040
00:51:10,733 --> 00:51:13,093
Speaker 3: this text here get hey guys. A mates buried a

1041
00:51:13,133 --> 00:51:16,693
Speaker 3: twenty foot container on his ten acre block. It is

1042
00:51:16,773 --> 00:51:19,732
Speaker 3: his wine cellar. But it didn't tell anybody about it,

1043
00:51:20,053 --> 00:51:22,533
Speaker 3: right apart from apart from him obviously, the Texter.

1044
00:51:22,933 --> 00:51:25,293
Speaker 2: Yes, so it's a it's a wine cellar, but it

1045
00:51:25,333 --> 00:51:25,973
Speaker 2: could be a bunker.

1046
00:51:25,973 --> 00:51:27,733
Speaker 3: It could be a bunker or a twenty foot container. You

1047
00:51:27,733 --> 00:51:28,652
Speaker 3: could do some stuff in there.

1048
00:51:28,813 --> 00:51:30,732
Speaker 2: Guys, there's way more than one bunker here. I saw

1049
00:51:30,773 --> 00:51:32,973
Speaker 2: a company from the US stating they had built twelve

1050
00:51:33,093 --> 00:51:36,973
Speaker 2: in Wanaka. Wow, twelve bunkers and Wonka. So I'm just thinking,

1051
00:51:37,013 --> 00:51:39,213
Speaker 2: what's the point of a bunker of people know it's there? Yeah,

1052
00:51:39,253 --> 00:51:42,693
Speaker 2: because it seems a big part of Doom Doom's day prepping.

1053
00:51:42,693 --> 00:51:44,692
Speaker 2: And I've watched a lot of Doomsdam prepper shows, great

1054
00:51:44,693 --> 00:51:46,853
Speaker 2: show at all. A lot of it seems to be

1055
00:51:46,893 --> 00:51:50,973
Speaker 2: the security and people collecting weapons to protect themselves from

1056
00:51:51,373 --> 00:51:53,813
Speaker 2: the people that aren't in a bunker, and the breakdown

1057
00:51:53,853 --> 00:51:56,172
Speaker 2: of civilization and the people trying to get into your

1058
00:51:56,813 --> 00:51:59,733
Speaker 2: into your bunker. So if you're building a bunker and

1059
00:51:59,773 --> 00:52:02,172
Speaker 2: people know where it is, then that then that that

1060
00:52:02,213 --> 00:52:03,653
Speaker 2: trade that worked on it put the you know, the

1061
00:52:03,693 --> 00:52:05,613
Speaker 2: plumber that put the toilets on, They're going to knock

1062
00:52:05,653 --> 00:52:07,813
Speaker 2: on the door with their family and go let me in. Yeah.

1063
00:52:07,893 --> 00:52:12,133
Speaker 3: So, honestly, where in Wanaka could you build a bunker

1064
00:52:12,213 --> 00:52:14,373
Speaker 3: and the likes of what they're talking about you without

1065
00:52:14,413 --> 00:52:16,813
Speaker 3: anybody knowing knowing litt Alone twelve.

1066
00:52:16,893 --> 00:52:19,773
Speaker 2: This textas says, buying a bunker as insurance. You take

1067
00:52:19,813 --> 00:52:21,933
Speaker 2: out insurance on your car, but you don't plan to

1068
00:52:22,013 --> 00:52:25,093
Speaker 2: crash it. You simply did in case you have a crash.

1069
00:52:25,133 --> 00:52:29,133
Speaker 2: A bunker is the same. Yeah, right, so so you

1070
00:52:29,213 --> 00:52:32,652
Speaker 2: think that so if you think that a breakdown of civilization,

1071
00:52:32,853 --> 00:52:36,333
Speaker 2: is that and that likely that you're really taking out

1072
00:52:36,373 --> 00:52:40,053
Speaker 2: insurance by building spending one point seventy five million on

1073
00:52:40,133 --> 00:52:42,693
Speaker 2: a bunker, Yeah, I mean, I guess it's one of

1074
00:52:42,693 --> 00:52:44,373
Speaker 2: those things that if you never use it, you're probably

1075
00:52:44,413 --> 00:52:47,053
Speaker 2: quite happy about it. I mean, you're definitely going to

1076
00:52:47,133 --> 00:52:48,773
Speaker 2: take some mates down for a drink down there one

1077
00:52:48,813 --> 00:52:49,453
Speaker 2: day and reveal it.

1078
00:52:49,613 --> 00:52:51,933
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking, of course, if you spend one point

1079
00:52:51,973 --> 00:52:53,893
Speaker 3: seventy five million on it, there's your man cave.

1080
00:52:53,933 --> 00:52:56,013
Speaker 2: You're going to be boys and watch the foot. I

1081
00:52:56,053 --> 00:52:58,172
Speaker 2: promised the Missis I wouldn't tell anyone about this. We've

1082
00:52:58,213 --> 00:53:00,333
Speaker 2: got it. I've got to show you that. Yeah, it's

1083
00:53:00,373 --> 00:53:04,413
Speaker 2: the coolest bunker that you'll ever see. All right, when

1084
00:53:04,453 --> 00:53:07,453
Speaker 2: we'll be back in just a minute with Mark, who's

1085
00:53:07,453 --> 00:53:09,453
Speaker 2: been in a bunker. But, oh, eight hundred eighty ten

1086
00:53:09,533 --> 00:53:11,973
Speaker 2: eighty do you think it's possible to build a doomsday

1087
00:53:12,013 --> 00:53:14,173
Speaker 2: bunker in New Zealand without anyone knowing? And how do

1088
00:53:14,173 --> 00:53:16,453
Speaker 2: you feel about these billionaires coming over digging holes and

1089
00:53:17,293 --> 00:53:19,453
Speaker 2: setting up a situation where they can live for fifty

1090
00:53:19,533 --> 00:53:21,933
Speaker 2: years down there when everything turns to crap. Have you

1091
00:53:21,933 --> 00:53:24,293
Speaker 2: got a problem with it? H No, I think it's

1092
00:53:24,333 --> 00:53:25,693
Speaker 2: cool as long as you can see the bunker.

1093
00:53:26,013 --> 00:53:28,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all right, Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty

1094
00:53:28,813 --> 00:53:30,533
Speaker 3: years the number twenty two PUS two.

1095
00:53:34,653 --> 00:53:36,093
Speaker 7: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

1096
00:53:36,133 --> 00:53:39,373
Speaker 1: Afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty on News

1097
00:53:39,453 --> 00:53:40,973
Speaker 1: Talk ZB Good afternoon.

1098
00:53:41,013 --> 00:53:43,573
Speaker 3: We're talking about doomsday bunkers on the back of for

1099
00:53:43,613 --> 00:53:46,333
Speaker 3: the first time a US company called Safe. They build

1100
00:53:46,453 --> 00:53:49,733
Speaker 3: very luxurious bunkers, confirming that they have built one of

1101
00:53:49,773 --> 00:53:53,133
Speaker 3: these prepper bunkers for a client somewhere in New Zealand.

1102
00:53:53,133 --> 00:53:55,013
Speaker 2: They just haven't said where. They're not cheap. They start

1103
00:53:55,053 --> 00:53:57,413
Speaker 2: at one point seventy five million dollars. You want a bunker,

1104
00:53:57,453 --> 00:53:59,933
Speaker 2: you got a bunker. You've been in a bunker, Mark,

1105
00:54:00,213 --> 00:54:02,453
Speaker 2: You've been in a bunker, Yes.

1106
00:54:02,373 --> 00:54:05,013
Speaker 17: I have is a bunker and Toma Harry just outside

1107
00:54:05,013 --> 00:54:09,773
Speaker 17: of Hamilton. It's quite an extensive bunker, very impressive. Was

1108
00:54:09,813 --> 00:54:14,573
Speaker 17: taken there in a very secretive kind of way. It

1109
00:54:14,613 --> 00:54:18,293
Speaker 17: was all done very late at night. And I was buying,

1110
00:54:18,333 --> 00:54:23,253
Speaker 17: wanting to buy something off off this gentleman, and so

1111
00:54:23,293 --> 00:54:26,093
Speaker 17: he took me to where he keeps all the things

1112
00:54:26,093 --> 00:54:30,173
Speaker 17: that I was interested in, and I couldn't believe what

1113
00:54:30,253 --> 00:54:34,573
Speaker 17: I was looking at was very extensive, and were conversations swiftly,

1114
00:54:34,693 --> 00:54:37,093
Speaker 17: and how did you do this?

1115
00:54:38,373 --> 00:54:39,093
Speaker 5: And it was.

1116
00:54:39,093 --> 00:54:42,853
Speaker 17: Done a long time ago, over thirty years ago, and

1117
00:54:42,893 --> 00:54:44,813
Speaker 17: it was it was he did it himself.

1118
00:54:45,293 --> 00:54:47,093
Speaker 2: Wow. And how big is the spunker?

1119
00:54:48,093 --> 00:54:48,413
Speaker 17: Huge?

1120
00:54:48,693 --> 00:54:53,973
Speaker 2: Huge, huge, like absolutely here supermarket size.

1121
00:54:53,573 --> 00:54:56,773
Speaker 6: Like three double garages. Oh, it's cars for the garage,

1122
00:54:57,213 --> 00:54:59,213
Speaker 6: really big in that sense.

1123
00:54:59,293 --> 00:55:02,613
Speaker 2: And so and it's under an underground bunker.

1124
00:55:02,213 --> 00:55:05,213
Speaker 6: Yep, it's at least I think it's ten or eleven

1125
00:55:05,253 --> 00:55:06,093
Speaker 6: feet underground.

1126
00:55:06,133 --> 00:55:08,213
Speaker 2: And it was under the house, or was out in

1127
00:55:08,213 --> 00:55:09,373
Speaker 2: the sort of remote location.

1128
00:55:10,413 --> 00:55:13,933
Speaker 6: It was near the house. You entered via the house

1129
00:55:14,053 --> 00:55:17,133
Speaker 6: and you went so let your imagination run wild. You'd

1130
00:55:17,133 --> 00:55:19,533
Speaker 6: go down to the basement there you were.

1131
00:55:19,613 --> 00:55:22,813
Speaker 17: Wow, you went through, You went through a couple of doors,

1132
00:55:22,893 --> 00:55:24,293
Speaker 17: and next thing you know you were in it yet

1133
00:55:24,293 --> 00:55:25,333
Speaker 17: to go down some steps.

1134
00:55:25,693 --> 00:55:29,773
Speaker 2: Wow, and it wasn't very sorry, No, no, you go,

1135
00:55:29,813 --> 00:55:31,573
Speaker 2: you keep prescribing. You went down some steps and you

1136
00:55:31,573 --> 00:55:33,333
Speaker 2: walk into it. And what what did? What was in

1137
00:55:33,373 --> 00:55:40,413
Speaker 2: the bunker A very extensive collection that I was interested in.

1138
00:55:41,013 --> 00:55:41,493
Speaker 18: Things.

1139
00:55:42,333 --> 00:55:43,973
Speaker 6: It woul would not be fair to say, well what

1140
00:55:44,053 --> 00:55:46,613
Speaker 6: it was that had narrow and narrow things down a

1141
00:55:46,613 --> 00:55:47,013
Speaker 6: little bit.

1142
00:55:47,453 --> 00:55:53,293
Speaker 2: But my imagination, my imagination is racing Mark could be the.

1143
00:55:53,733 --> 00:55:57,613
Speaker 5: Legal legal.

1144
00:55:59,213 --> 00:56:03,013
Speaker 17: And look, I think to turn to the wider conversation.

1145
00:56:03,213 --> 00:56:06,893
Speaker 17: The gentleman has announced that he's built a bunker in

1146
00:56:06,933 --> 00:56:09,692
Speaker 17: New Zealand. How it would simply if they bring over

1147
00:56:09,733 --> 00:56:12,133
Speaker 17: the workers, like I know a fellow who built log

1148
00:56:12,173 --> 00:56:15,453
Speaker 17: cabin adam wayhecke and he built, he bought over.

1149
00:56:17,053 --> 00:56:17,813
Speaker 19: What they called it.

1150
00:56:17,853 --> 00:56:21,013
Speaker 17: The Amish brought over a dozen Amish and they built

1151
00:56:21,013 --> 00:56:22,333
Speaker 17: it for him out there.

1152
00:56:22,333 --> 00:56:25,253
Speaker 3: So that it seems incredibly expensive to ship the Armish

1153
00:56:25,253 --> 00:56:27,413
Speaker 3: in here. Armus allowed on planes, don't they have to

1154
00:56:27,613 --> 00:56:28,692
Speaker 3: go by horse and cart?

1155
00:56:28,733 --> 00:56:34,693
Speaker 2: The Armish they might have swum so with the spunker,

1156
00:56:35,093 --> 00:56:37,613
Speaker 2: the spunker that you saw. So this was a doomsday bunker.

1157
00:56:37,653 --> 00:56:40,692
Speaker 2: It wasn't just a hiding interesting products that you wanted

1158
00:56:40,693 --> 00:56:41,293
Speaker 2: to buy a bun.

1159
00:56:41,293 --> 00:56:44,733
Speaker 6: It was plummed, it was plumbed. It had and it

1160
00:56:44,773 --> 00:56:46,413
Speaker 6: had its own bore.

1161
00:56:47,373 --> 00:56:50,212
Speaker 2: Wow, all right, and it.

1162
00:56:50,173 --> 00:56:53,573
Speaker 17: Had it so it was equipped to if the world

1163
00:56:53,613 --> 00:56:55,133
Speaker 17: turned to custard.

1164
00:56:55,333 --> 00:56:57,373
Speaker 6: Yeah, they could go.

1165
00:56:57,493 --> 00:57:00,893
Speaker 17: Now, I'm not sure about power. You can get deep

1166
00:57:00,933 --> 00:57:02,652
Speaker 17: into the conversation, but do you.

1167
00:57:02,653 --> 00:57:04,893
Speaker 3: Go how much is more than one? How much do

1168
00:57:04,893 --> 00:57:07,253
Speaker 3: you reckon it cost him? Surely that came up. You've

1169
00:57:07,213 --> 00:57:08,573
Speaker 3: got a ballpark on what it would.

1170
00:57:08,413 --> 00:57:10,013
Speaker 17: Costs, so.

1171
00:57:11,653 --> 00:57:12,813
Speaker 6: You'd have to think.

1172
00:57:14,573 --> 00:57:17,093
Speaker 7: So just a diesel alone, Yeah.

1173
00:57:17,133 --> 00:57:21,093
Speaker 6: To dig it dig it would have been forty grand

1174
00:57:21,493 --> 00:57:23,733
Speaker 6: right alone, just to dig the hole?

1175
00:57:24,693 --> 00:57:25,293
Speaker 7: Maybe more?

1176
00:57:25,893 --> 00:57:29,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, Mark, you know I think sorry, you know no, Sorry,

1177
00:57:30,013 --> 00:57:33,533
Speaker 2: So now you know where the bunker is, right, So

1178
00:57:34,293 --> 00:57:36,213
Speaker 2: if the world does turn to the crab, are you

1179
00:57:36,253 --> 00:57:37,773
Speaker 2: going to heat up there and just knock on the

1180
00:57:37,893 --> 00:57:39,013
Speaker 2: outside of the bunker and go.

1181
00:57:39,493 --> 00:57:41,453
Speaker 6: I know what he's I know what he's got in it.

1182
00:57:41,613 --> 00:57:43,013
Speaker 2: I'm going anywhere near it?

1183
00:57:43,093 --> 00:57:47,333
Speaker 3: Okay, right, right, So if anyone's listening around Tommy here

1184
00:57:47,373 --> 00:57:48,693
Speaker 3: that he don't try and find this bunker.

1185
00:57:48,733 --> 00:57:50,413
Speaker 2: It's not going to end. Well for you, can you

1186
00:57:50,413 --> 00:57:52,613
Speaker 2: give us anywhere anywhere near the ballpark of what you're

1187
00:57:52,613 --> 00:57:57,893
Speaker 2: talking about? What'sn't it illegal? Alone?

1188
00:57:58,573 --> 00:58:00,613
Speaker 3: I thought you said it was legal. It's illegal.

1189
00:58:00,653 --> 00:58:01,573
Speaker 6: No, that's legal.

1190
00:58:01,693 --> 00:58:02,933
Speaker 2: This isn't a grow legal.

1191
00:58:03,093 --> 00:58:05,533
Speaker 3: So there's a difference between a grow room and a bunker. Mark,

1192
00:58:06,213 --> 00:58:09,693
Speaker 3: That sounds like the Gentleman movie. It is so underground

1193
00:58:09,693 --> 00:58:11,413
Speaker 3: bunker full of well, no one.

1194
00:58:13,133 --> 00:58:15,133
Speaker 6: What what do people have to keep? Locked up?

1195
00:58:15,853 --> 00:58:16,253
Speaker 2: Guns?

1196
00:58:17,493 --> 00:58:18,253
Speaker 6: Thank you very much?

1197
00:58:18,973 --> 00:58:21,533
Speaker 2: Oh my god. So it's a heavenly and you were

1198
00:58:21,533 --> 00:58:24,053
Speaker 2: there to buy weapons off the sky and he took

1199
00:58:24,053 --> 00:58:25,693
Speaker 2: you down to a bunker that was full of weapons.

1200
00:58:27,533 --> 00:58:29,253
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then you filled in the Gatsman story.

1201
00:58:30,093 --> 00:58:33,253
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, all right, so you allowed back?

1202
00:58:33,293 --> 00:58:33,493
Speaker 5: Mark?

1203
00:58:33,613 --> 00:58:33,733
Speaker 14: Is this?

1204
00:58:35,133 --> 00:58:37,053
Speaker 17: I'm sure sure.

1205
00:58:37,693 --> 00:58:39,613
Speaker 6: There was trade to be done and he trade to

1206
00:58:39,613 --> 00:58:39,973
Speaker 6: be done?

1207
00:58:40,053 --> 00:58:41,533
Speaker 2: What kind of weapons is he got down there?

1208
00:58:41,533 --> 00:58:41,773
Speaker 17: Mark?

1209
00:58:43,173 --> 00:58:43,693
Speaker 6: Impressive?

1210
00:58:43,693 --> 00:58:46,773
Speaker 2: Ones, how impressive?

1211
00:58:48,013 --> 00:58:53,173
Speaker 3: Very is the range in the bunker?

1212
00:58:53,533 --> 00:58:56,173
Speaker 2: Or does he, you know, show off the weirs above ground?

1213
00:58:59,373 --> 00:59:01,853
Speaker 6: That did probably be giving away quite a bit. But

1214
00:59:02,093 --> 00:59:03,253
Speaker 6: everything's legal.

1215
00:59:04,973 --> 00:59:08,933
Speaker 2: You're telling Sometimes it's legal, Marks, sometimes it's illegal. In

1216
00:59:08,973 --> 00:59:14,893
Speaker 2: the story, we're operating the gray gray area. Oh well,

1217
00:59:15,293 --> 00:59:18,213
Speaker 2: thank you so much for your call, Mark, Yeah, fascinating

1218
00:59:18,853 --> 00:59:21,373
Speaker 2: for more, more questions and answers there from Mark.

1219
00:59:21,973 --> 00:59:25,573
Speaker 3: So somewhere near Tommy, Yeah, is a bunker with some

1220
00:59:25,613 --> 00:59:26,693
Speaker 3: formidable weaponry.

1221
00:59:26,773 --> 00:59:30,973
Speaker 2: Yeah. So when the when it all goes down, when

1222
00:59:31,013 --> 00:59:36,333
Speaker 2: civilization collapses, I'll be riding around there with a a

1223
00:59:37,573 --> 00:59:38,293
Speaker 2: metal detective.

1224
00:59:39,453 --> 00:59:41,373
Speaker 3: I'll be ringing Mark and say, hey, mate, take me

1225
00:59:41,413 --> 00:59:41,573
Speaker 3: with you.

1226
00:59:43,813 --> 00:59:46,293
Speaker 2: Let's the number to call, and when we come back,

1227
00:59:46,333 --> 00:59:50,653
Speaker 2: we'll we'll share the details of a thirty five million

1228
00:59:50,653 --> 00:59:53,813
Speaker 2: dollar bunker near Queenstown out from Dan. This is going

1229
00:59:53,853 --> 00:59:54,653
Speaker 2: to be good, all right.

1230
00:59:54,813 --> 00:59:58,493
Speaker 3: It is twenty nine to three headlines with Raylen coming up.

1231
01:00:01,373 --> 01:00:03,613
Speaker 7: You talk say headlines with.

1232
01:00:03,653 --> 01:00:06,733
Speaker 15: Blue bubble taxis, it's no trouble with a blue bubble

1233
01:00:07,253 --> 01:00:11,053
Speaker 15: Nationals Andrew Bailey is stepping down as a minister and

1234
01:00:11,093 --> 01:00:13,613
Speaker 15: says he's deeply sorry for putting a hand on a

1235
01:00:13,733 --> 01:00:18,213
Speaker 15: staffer during a work discussion and admits a complaint's being made.

1236
01:00:18,533 --> 01:00:22,253
Speaker 15: His acc and Commerce and Consumer Affairs portfolios will go

1237
01:00:22,293 --> 01:00:25,653
Speaker 15: to Coromandel MP Scott Simpson, but Bailey will stay on

1238
01:00:25,733 --> 01:00:29,853
Speaker 15: as MP for port Y. Cuntel homeowners could be asked

1239
01:00:29,853 --> 01:00:32,493
Speaker 15: to forecount an extra four hundred dollars or so a

1240
01:00:32,573 --> 01:00:37,253
Speaker 15: year to finance the state disaster insurer Treasury warns the

1241
01:00:37,293 --> 01:00:41,693
Speaker 15: insurer formerly known as EQC, is so undefunded it's unlikely

1242
01:00:41,773 --> 01:00:46,013
Speaker 15: to meet costs over the next five years. Women's refuge

1243
01:00:46,293 --> 01:00:49,893
Speaker 15: as Judges and police should stop referring offenders to an

1244
01:00:49,893 --> 01:00:53,693
Speaker 15: anti violence program by the Destiny Church linked man up

1245
01:00:53,733 --> 01:00:57,453
Speaker 15: group whose members aggressively stormed a library event for children.

1246
01:00:58,493 --> 01:01:02,013
Speaker 15: A student from Christ Churches Privates and Andrew's College has

1247
01:01:02,053 --> 01:01:05,773
Speaker 15: been suspended after events at a year six school camp

1248
01:01:05,893 --> 01:01:10,173
Speaker 15: last week. The National Army Any Museums how the ceremony

1249
01:01:10,213 --> 01:01:15,653
Speaker 15: recognizing New Zealand's first overseas explosive detective dogs and acknowledging

1250
01:01:15,733 --> 01:01:20,813
Speaker 15: all service animals. Landlords accus Auckland property manager of keeping

1251
01:01:20,853 --> 01:01:24,093
Speaker 15: fifty thousand dollars of their rental income. You can find

1252
01:01:24,093 --> 01:01:27,213
Speaker 15: out more at Enzen Herald Premium. Back to Matt Eathan

1253
01:01:27,253 --> 01:01:28,493
Speaker 15: Tyler Adams.

1254
01:01:28,133 --> 01:01:30,133
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Ray Lean and having a great

1255
01:01:30,133 --> 01:01:32,973
Speaker 3: discussion about doomsday bunkers in New Zealand on the back

1256
01:01:33,013 --> 01:01:35,333
Speaker 3: of for the first time it being confirmed by a

1257
01:01:35,453 --> 01:01:38,493
Speaker 3: US company called Safe that they have built an underground

1258
01:01:38,493 --> 01:01:40,653
Speaker 3: bunker somewhere in New Zealand. For a very wealthy client.

1259
01:01:42,293 --> 01:01:45,093
Speaker 2: Tyler. I've just been thinking about what I would want

1260
01:01:45,613 --> 01:01:49,173
Speaker 2: in my bunker. Yeah, okay, I'd want power for fifty years.

1261
01:01:49,213 --> 01:01:52,413
Speaker 2: So some kind of solid form of powers, off the

1262
01:01:52,413 --> 01:01:56,693
Speaker 2: grid power, practical hydroproducts so you can grow your food, right, yep.

1263
01:01:57,133 --> 01:01:59,253
Speaker 2: And so that power you'd have to have, you know,

1264
01:01:59,373 --> 01:02:01,573
Speaker 2: full spread from lights, grow lights, you know, yep. Okay,

1265
01:02:01,773 --> 01:02:05,773
Speaker 2: a source of clean water obviously, movie theater, movie theater. Nice,

1266
01:02:05,973 --> 01:02:09,053
Speaker 2: a movie theater, large kitchen, large space kitchen because I

1267
01:02:09,133 --> 01:02:12,653
Speaker 2: like cooking. Some kind of basketball court or sports kind

1268
01:02:12,653 --> 01:02:13,093
Speaker 2: of area.

1269
01:02:13,213 --> 01:02:15,413
Speaker 3: Okay, so just a sports court in general.

1270
01:02:15,333 --> 01:02:17,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, if you want. I think basketball court

1271
01:02:17,493 --> 01:02:21,173
Speaker 2: is a realistic squash courts as well, in full gym,

1272
01:02:21,373 --> 01:02:24,573
Speaker 2: full gym, yep, you know, at least minimum twenty five

1273
01:02:24,653 --> 01:02:29,893
Speaker 2: meter pull, like a like one of those artificial driving ranges,

1274
01:02:29,893 --> 01:02:33,173
Speaker 2: golf driving ranges, you know one yeah, digital one, you know. Yeah,

1275
01:02:33,173 --> 01:02:35,893
Speaker 2: that saves space. Actually, new tournament they've got over there

1276
01:02:35,653 --> 01:02:40,973
Speaker 2: in the States. An armory. But what's in the armory weapons? Yeah,

1277
01:02:41,653 --> 01:02:44,933
Speaker 2: some sweet bedrooms, like just really nice bedrooms, some kind

1278
01:02:44,933 --> 01:02:47,133
Speaker 2: of virtual reality thing. Did I say, a full movie theater?

1279
01:02:47,173 --> 01:02:49,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you said they are you going to rock

1280
01:02:49,333 --> 01:02:51,813
Speaker 3: DVDs for the movie theater because you know there's no

1281
01:02:51,853 --> 01:02:53,253
Speaker 3: Hollywood to make anymore films.

1282
01:02:53,333 --> 01:02:55,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you need to get every movie that's ever

1283
01:02:55,413 --> 01:02:58,293
Speaker 2: made downloaded into that system and a periscope so I

1284
01:02:58,293 --> 01:03:00,213
Speaker 2: can never look around up top, so you know when

1285
01:03:00,253 --> 01:03:02,453
Speaker 2: it's okay to get out. So that's key, the periscope.

1286
01:03:02,453 --> 01:03:04,333
Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah, So if anyone needs to add

1287
01:03:04,373 --> 01:03:06,133
Speaker 2: to that, then I'd like to hear their thoughts. But

1288
01:03:06,213 --> 01:03:08,453
Speaker 2: those are my basics. I just like that you hit

1289
01:03:08,493 --> 01:03:09,533
Speaker 2: at least twenty five meters.

1290
01:03:10,173 --> 01:03:12,733
Speaker 3: Why I got the four hog go Olympics Olympic size

1291
01:03:13,373 --> 01:03:14,173
Speaker 3: the diving pool as well.

1292
01:03:14,253 --> 01:03:16,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I want room for at least fifty people

1293
01:03:16,173 --> 01:03:18,253
Speaker 2: down there, so I'm going to get bored. Just yeah,

1294
01:03:18,773 --> 01:03:22,653
Speaker 2: all right, ribe your thoughts on these bunkers being built

1295
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Speaker 2: in New Zealand.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, Matt, Hi Tyler, you guys are doing a great job.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 19: You guys are awesome.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 19: Just just want to say I think New Zealand doesn't

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01:03:36,973 --> 01:03:40,933
Speaker 19: have anything to worry about really, you know. I mean,

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01:03:41,373 --> 01:03:48,693
Speaker 19: we're a small fresh in the sea and we're pretty safe,

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01:03:49,613 --> 01:03:52,453
Speaker 19: so I don't think we need to worry too much

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01:03:52,453 --> 01:03:55,653
Speaker 19: about it, and whoever built the bunker must have lots

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01:03:55,693 --> 01:03:56,133
Speaker 19: of money.

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01:03:56,333 --> 01:03:59,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well I think, you know, the suggestion is

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01:03:59,733 --> 01:04:03,573
Speaker 2: that they're Silicon Valley billionaires. When I was a kid, though, Rob,

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01:04:03,773 --> 01:04:07,053
Speaker 2: I was told that, you know, no nukes would be

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01:04:07,373 --> 01:04:10,293
Speaker 2: pointed at New Zealand, but we'd get the we'd get

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01:04:10,293 --> 01:04:13,013
Speaker 2: the nuclear winter. And also there was a good chance

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01:04:13,093 --> 01:04:18,213
Speaker 2: that a bunch of you know, people would arrive in ships,

1312
01:04:18,653 --> 01:04:22,333
Speaker 2: you know, you know, refugees and ships, armed refugees and ships.

1313
01:04:22,773 --> 01:04:25,013
Speaker 2: So it might not be that we're actually in trouble

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01:04:25,013 --> 01:04:28,013
Speaker 2: with what's actually happening. It's what happens with the people

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01:04:28,013 --> 01:04:30,533
Speaker 2: that are escaping what has happened turn up and then

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01:04:30,573 --> 01:04:34,213
Speaker 2: you in sort of civilization breaks down type situation. And

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01:04:34,373 --> 01:04:36,853
Speaker 2: under those circumstances, that might not be too bad to

1318
01:04:36,893 --> 01:04:39,613
Speaker 2: just nip into a bunker for fifty years and just

1319
01:04:39,613 --> 01:04:40,733
Speaker 2: wait till things are cooled out.

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01:04:42,133 --> 01:04:48,693
Speaker 19: Yeah well, I personally I think it's silly. But if

1321
01:04:48,773 --> 01:04:52,493
Speaker 19: you're in the States, yeah, well it's a whole different

1322
01:04:52,533 --> 01:04:53,293
Speaker 19: breed over there.

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01:04:53,413 --> 01:04:55,133
Speaker 2: Well, where would you go, Rob, if at all?

1324
01:04:55,253 --> 01:04:58,213
Speaker 3: If society broke down for whatever reason and things are

1325
01:04:58,253 --> 01:04:59,773
Speaker 3: when tits up, where would you go?

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Speaker 20: The language Diyler.

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01:05:05,773 --> 01:05:08,973
Speaker 19: I don't know. I'd probably go to the Hawaii somewhere

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01:05:09,133 --> 01:05:10,173
Speaker 19: like that, maybe.

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01:05:10,413 --> 01:05:13,213
Speaker 3: Right within the country. But that is really pushing the

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01:05:13,213 --> 01:05:14,733
Speaker 3: boat out, thank.

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01:05:14,293 --> 01:05:14,973
Speaker 4: You, Rob.

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01:05:15,173 --> 01:05:16,613
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean a lot of people are thinking New

1333
01:05:16,693 --> 01:05:18,333
Speaker 2: Zealand's the place to go. So we're already here, so

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01:05:18,333 --> 01:05:20,813
Speaker 2: we're their vantage. It'll be a terrible situation if you

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01:05:20,893 --> 01:05:23,693
Speaker 2: wanted these Silicon Valley billionaires and you've got your bunker

1336
01:05:23,693 --> 01:05:25,933
Speaker 2: and your bolt hole in New Zealand, you're already all

1337
01:05:25,933 --> 01:05:27,413
Speaker 2: the way over there. You know, you got to get

1338
01:05:27,413 --> 01:05:29,293
Speaker 2: in your private jet pretty fast to get over here,

1339
01:05:29,333 --> 01:05:31,813
Speaker 2: to get down your bunker. Yeah, and you know, if

1340
01:05:32,453 --> 01:05:34,813
Speaker 2: civilization went down, I'd be waiting at the airports to

1341
01:05:34,853 --> 01:05:36,973
Speaker 2: follow the people arriving in the private jets back to

1342
01:05:36,973 --> 01:05:39,733
Speaker 2: where their bunker is. Definitely I'll be chasing those I'll

1343
01:05:39,773 --> 01:05:42,053
Speaker 2: be chasing those cars from the private jets to the bunkers.

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01:05:42,093 --> 01:05:43,773
Speaker 3: You'd be very guarded if you got here and spend

1345
01:05:43,773 --> 01:05:45,813
Speaker 3: all that money and there's just a whole bunch of

1346
01:05:45,853 --> 01:05:47,493
Speaker 3: ki we smashing your wine and your bunker.

1347
01:05:47,813 --> 01:05:49,693
Speaker 2: Henry saying I need to get a harem down there.

1348
01:05:50,373 --> 01:05:52,973
Speaker 2: Difficult organize. It is med max hard to get past

1349
01:05:53,053 --> 01:05:53,893
Speaker 2: the partner as well.

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01:05:54,013 --> 01:05:56,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1351
01:05:56,653 --> 01:05:57,693
Speaker 3: the number to call.

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01:05:58,373 --> 01:06:00,293
Speaker 2: It is twenty one to.

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01:06:00,173 --> 01:06:04,213
Speaker 7: Three, the issues that affect you and a bit of

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01:06:04,253 --> 01:06:05,133
Speaker 7: fun along the way.

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01:06:05,373 --> 01:06:09,893
Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo Exit, Innovation, style

1356
01:06:10,013 --> 01:06:10,573
Speaker 1: and design.

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01:06:10,733 --> 01:06:14,053
Speaker 2: Have it all you talk said, be good afternoon.

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01:06:14,093 --> 01:06:16,373
Speaker 3: We're talking about doomsday bunkers in New Zealand on the

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01:06:16,373 --> 01:06:18,573
Speaker 3: back of an article in New Zealand Hero which confirms

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01:06:18,573 --> 01:06:21,333
Speaker 3: for the first time there has been one built somewhere

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01:06:21,333 --> 01:06:23,373
Speaker 3: in New Zealand for a very wealthy client.

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01:06:23,573 --> 01:06:25,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I missed something my list. A lot of

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01:06:25,133 --> 01:06:26,733
Speaker 2: people have pointed out us to what I'd want on

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01:06:26,813 --> 01:06:31,213
Speaker 2: my bunker, my dream bunker. I missed out. I missed oxygen,

1365
01:06:31,293 --> 01:06:33,053
Speaker 2: which I think is a key point. And thank you

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01:06:33,093 --> 01:06:34,293
Speaker 2: for pointing that out. That's a biggie.

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01:06:34,333 --> 01:06:36,013
Speaker 3: You wouldn't last fifty years without that.

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01:06:36,613 --> 01:06:39,773
Speaker 2: You've missed that on your list and you're booking your bunket. Yeah,

1369
01:06:39,813 --> 01:06:41,333
Speaker 2: and then you get down there and you go, oh,

1370
01:06:41,413 --> 01:06:46,333
Speaker 2: I forgot the oxygen. What an absolute disaster. Felix, you

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01:06:46,373 --> 01:06:47,413
Speaker 2: had a bunker.

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01:06:48,373 --> 01:06:50,653
Speaker 21: Well, not really had a bunker. I had things that

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01:06:50,853 --> 01:06:53,293
Speaker 21: have a lot of bunkers still in South Africa.

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01:06:53,613 --> 01:06:55,173
Speaker 19: We were just pretty paid.

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01:06:55,013 --> 01:06:59,493
Speaker 21: For any genocide that's happening in South Africa. So we

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01:06:59,493 --> 01:07:01,093
Speaker 21: were fully prepared.

1377
01:07:01,213 --> 01:07:03,973
Speaker 2: Right, So you didn't you didn't have a bunker, but

1378
01:07:04,013 --> 01:07:06,973
Speaker 2: you had sort of there's a lot.

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01:07:06,773 --> 01:07:09,293
Speaker 21: Of supplies in a bunker. But they didn't have a

1380
01:07:09,333 --> 01:07:13,813
Speaker 21: living room with bunker underground something like that, But some

1381
01:07:13,853 --> 01:07:16,253
Speaker 21: of my friends did a lot of them had.

1382
01:07:16,613 --> 01:07:19,573
Speaker 2: Right, And so that was bunker more for the movements

1383
01:07:19,573 --> 01:07:23,613
Speaker 2: of other people as opposed to you know, fallout from

1384
01:07:23,653 --> 01:07:25,893
Speaker 2: a nuclear sort of situation. It was just to protect

1385
01:07:25,933 --> 01:07:28,013
Speaker 2: yourself from you know, people attacking you.

1386
01:07:28,053 --> 01:07:30,893
Speaker 21: Really, yes, yes, yes, yes, with all the things in

1387
01:07:30,973 --> 01:07:34,253
Speaker 21: crimes and going on in South Africa, you need to

1388
01:07:34,333 --> 01:07:37,293
Speaker 21: have exit planning. We had an excess strategy with a

1389
01:07:37,293 --> 01:07:39,893
Speaker 21: lot of food, a lot of medicine, a lot of

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01:07:40,093 --> 01:07:40,693
Speaker 21: other stuff.

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01:07:41,773 --> 01:07:43,053
Speaker 22: So we were prepared.

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01:07:43,573 --> 01:07:46,053
Speaker 2: And would that be a bunker that you wouldn't be

1393
01:07:46,093 --> 01:07:48,533
Speaker 2: able to see from these people that had bankers? Would

1394
01:07:48,653 --> 01:07:50,733
Speaker 2: you not be able to see it from above ground?

1395
01:07:50,813 --> 01:07:52,453
Speaker 2: Like would be hard hard to find?

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01:07:53,293 --> 01:07:58,293
Speaker 21: No, they had containers bold underground supplies. They had about

1397
01:07:58,373 --> 01:08:02,013
Speaker 21: four or five containers connected to each other with rooms

1398
01:08:02,253 --> 01:08:06,973
Speaker 21: and that oxygen supply. They had full supply. They had

1399
01:08:08,373 --> 01:08:13,653
Speaker 21: hydroponics for all the vegetables. But even at Feesus and

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01:08:13,813 --> 01:08:17,333
Speaker 21: everything was wired up with pelar panels.

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01:08:18,293 --> 01:08:20,412
Speaker 2: And which and the idea would be you'd wait out

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01:08:20,412 --> 01:08:24,852
Speaker 2: a siege type situation until people moved on. Yes, yes, wow.

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01:08:25,053 --> 01:08:27,452
Speaker 2: And so you live in New Zealand. Do you think

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01:08:27,452 --> 01:08:29,612
Speaker 2: there's a need for people to have a bunker down here?

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01:08:30,452 --> 01:08:32,173
Speaker 21: I don't think, so that's why I moved here.

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01:08:33,893 --> 01:08:35,973
Speaker 3: What were the what were the South African bunkers? What

1407
01:08:36,013 --> 01:08:38,053
Speaker 3: were they? What did they cost to set up? It

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01:08:38,133 --> 01:08:39,132
Speaker 3: sounds quite elaborate.

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01:08:40,093 --> 01:08:40,613
Speaker 11: Yeah.

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01:08:40,732 --> 01:08:42,493
Speaker 21: The friend of mine had about.

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01:08:44,412 --> 01:08:45,333
Speaker 16: Forty grand in it.

1412
01:08:45,692 --> 01:08:48,093
Speaker 21: Yeah, right, and grand that's four hundred thousand grand. That's

1413
01:08:48,093 --> 01:08:49,692
Speaker 21: a lot of money. You can buy all else for

1414
01:08:49,772 --> 01:08:52,812
Speaker 21: that kind of money. But just his ammunition were about

1415
01:08:53,173 --> 01:08:55,533
Speaker 21: fifty grand just the ammunition.

1416
01:08:55,612 --> 01:08:56,213
Speaker 7: Yeah wow.

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01:08:56,372 --> 01:08:58,692
Speaker 2: So I guess a farm is quite a good way

1418
01:08:58,732 --> 01:09:00,732
Speaker 2: to set up a bunker because you can have diggers

1419
01:09:00,772 --> 01:09:02,892
Speaker 2: on the farm, you can you can bring in a

1420
01:09:02,893 --> 01:09:05,133
Speaker 2: lot of supplies that people don't necessarily know what it

1421
01:09:05,293 --> 01:09:07,253
Speaker 2: is for. It could be for agriculture, it could be

1422
01:09:07,253 --> 01:09:11,013
Speaker 2: for your bunker. You know that that's the place to

1423
01:09:11,013 --> 01:09:13,692
Speaker 2: build a bunker in the middle of a huge, huge farm.

1424
01:09:13,692 --> 01:09:15,852
Speaker 2: There's so much activity on there. Who knows what they're doing?

1425
01:09:16,053 --> 01:09:16,253
Speaker 5: You know.

1426
01:09:17,293 --> 01:09:20,973
Speaker 21: So most of the farmers have connected bunkers between the

1427
01:09:21,053 --> 01:09:25,093
Speaker 21: farm houses. There's about fifty farmers in a place in

1428
01:09:25,173 --> 01:09:31,852
Speaker 21: Mumpoplelongo that's got a connected bumpers, bunkers underground. So it

1429
01:09:31,933 --> 01:09:35,132
Speaker 21: was a little bit and they started an the bunkers

1430
01:09:35,133 --> 01:09:38,452
Speaker 21: on the ground, one one with many, one with closed,

1431
01:09:38,452 --> 01:09:42,653
Speaker 21: one with meadas is actually the most important part bunker.

1432
01:09:42,572 --> 01:09:45,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's absolutely And so those bankers are connected with

1433
01:09:45,812 --> 01:09:49,212
Speaker 2: sort of the coroner of mind shafts or a little tunnels.

1434
01:09:49,692 --> 01:09:53,772
Speaker 2: Yeah wow. And so so you know how how large

1435
01:09:53,812 --> 01:09:57,732
Speaker 2: is that network over We're talking kilometers between bunkers underground tunnels.

1436
01:09:58,973 --> 01:10:02,732
Speaker 21: Well one at the most right, and then you got

1437
01:10:02,772 --> 01:10:05,293
Speaker 21: a closer ones with fifty meters.

1438
01:10:06,732 --> 01:10:09,452
Speaker 2: Wow. And so they do they have exit tunnels. So

1439
01:10:09,612 --> 01:10:11,452
Speaker 2: you know, when things go down, you run to a

1440
01:10:11,492 --> 01:10:13,372
Speaker 2: bunker and you can escape in a number of different

1441
01:10:13,812 --> 01:10:17,492
Speaker 2: different exits, you know, into safer areas or whatever, cover

1442
01:10:17,572 --> 01:10:18,372
Speaker 2: of darkness or water.

1443
01:10:18,812 --> 01:10:24,413
Speaker 21: Yeah, most of the exit exits was used for eating.

1444
01:10:24,213 --> 01:10:27,612
Speaker 3: Things right, right, fascinating what an insight I had no

1445
01:10:27,692 --> 01:10:32,132
Speaker 3: idea all these bunker networks existed in well.

1446
01:10:32,293 --> 01:10:34,333
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for you call Felix. Yeah, that's that's

1447
01:10:34,412 --> 01:10:37,133
Speaker 2: interesting because that's that's a bunker for human activity as

1448
01:10:37,213 --> 01:10:39,412
Speaker 2: opposed to you know, as opposed to like fall out.

1449
01:10:39,812 --> 01:10:42,253
Speaker 2: You know, you're not you're not needing to purify the

1450
01:10:42,333 --> 01:10:44,772
Speaker 2: year above. You just hiding basically and trying to escape

1451
01:10:44,772 --> 01:10:48,572
Speaker 2: when when things go down. Bob, how are you this afternoon?

1452
01:10:49,173 --> 01:10:49,692
Speaker 23: I'm great.

1453
01:10:49,772 --> 01:10:50,012
Speaker 5: Listen.

1454
01:10:50,093 --> 01:10:54,012
Speaker 23: It's a great story you're telling, and I guess appropriate

1455
01:10:54,013 --> 01:10:56,532
Speaker 23: at the time. But the bunker I'm talking about surreal

1456
01:10:56,612 --> 01:11:01,333
Speaker 23: the genuine article. It was built in Canada and if

1457
01:11:01,372 --> 01:11:04,892
Speaker 23: you google it, it's colloquy. It's known as a deafen bunker.

1458
01:11:05,173 --> 01:11:07,972
Speaker 23: And this was built during the Cold War, the house

1459
01:11:07,973 --> 01:11:10,892
Speaker 23: that can Indian government in the event of a Soviet

1460
01:11:10,973 --> 01:11:15,412
Speaker 23: nuclear attack on the North America. How do you spell

1461
01:11:15,492 --> 01:11:18,652
Speaker 23: that d I E F in E N b U

1462
01:11:18,853 --> 01:11:23,052
Speaker 23: n K different bunker. Oh, yes, wow, and it'll about

1463
01:11:23,093 --> 01:11:25,372
Speaker 23: it's now it's now a Cold War museum.

1464
01:11:26,053 --> 01:11:28,492
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. This is spectacular.

1465
01:11:29,732 --> 01:11:33,852
Speaker 23: It's huge. It would have held nuclear attack, it would

1466
01:11:33,853 --> 01:11:37,253
Speaker 23: have held the Canadian cabinet and they would have run

1467
01:11:37,293 --> 01:11:40,693
Speaker 23: the country from there, but included into it is a

1468
01:11:40,812 --> 01:11:43,852
Speaker 23: vault within a bolt and if and that was where

1469
01:11:43,853 --> 01:11:47,013
Speaker 23: all Canada's gold reserves were going to be held. And

1470
01:11:47,053 --> 01:11:49,213
Speaker 23: then this is you know, in the in the event

1471
01:11:49,253 --> 01:11:51,133
Speaker 23: of a milk downside the thing.

1472
01:11:52,013 --> 01:11:55,013
Speaker 2: It's a very sort of functional bunker, isn't it? Is

1473
01:11:55,133 --> 01:11:58,692
Speaker 2: that not not a lot of nothing aesthetic there, it's

1474
01:11:58,732 --> 01:12:03,053
Speaker 2: all it's.

1475
01:12:02,013 --> 01:12:04,372
Speaker 23: It's purely to you in the event. As I say,

1476
01:12:04,692 --> 01:12:06,772
Speaker 23: I don't know, it's about four or five floors deep

1477
01:12:06,853 --> 01:12:09,213
Speaker 23: underground and I could hear, you know, height of the thing.

1478
01:12:09,412 --> 01:12:11,293
Speaker 23: It would hold probably two or three hundred people.

1479
01:12:11,732 --> 01:12:13,652
Speaker 2: Actually, there is part of it. There's quite a nice

1480
01:12:13,692 --> 01:12:16,892
Speaker 2: bar in there. Actually there's sort of a there is

1481
01:12:17,093 --> 01:12:19,692
Speaker 2: there is a sort of a recreational area that are

1482
01:12:19,692 --> 01:12:22,053
Speaker 2: found in some of these pictures. But yeah, most of

1483
01:12:22,093 --> 01:12:24,932
Speaker 2: it very very functional and military looking. How many levels

1484
01:12:24,973 --> 01:12:25,173
Speaker 2: has it?

1485
01:12:25,173 --> 01:12:25,372
Speaker 19: God?

1486
01:12:25,452 --> 01:12:27,213
Speaker 2: Is it five or six levels?

1487
01:12:27,253 --> 01:12:28,812
Speaker 23: Is it six levels?

1488
01:12:28,812 --> 01:12:29,252
Speaker 5: Sexy?

1489
01:12:29,572 --> 01:12:32,253
Speaker 23: This vault is right at the bottom level, you know,

1490
01:12:32,253 --> 01:12:34,692
Speaker 23: where the gold reserves are going to be held. And

1491
01:12:34,732 --> 01:12:37,333
Speaker 23: it was you know, blast proof and the way the

1492
01:12:37,412 --> 01:12:40,053
Speaker 23: doors were functioned, they were vertical to the shaft that

1493
01:12:40,093 --> 01:12:43,493
Speaker 23: goes into it, so a nuclear blast wouldn't take it out?

1494
01:12:43,772 --> 01:12:46,732
Speaker 2: What did they what did they decommission it? I wonder

1495
01:12:46,772 --> 01:12:48,612
Speaker 2: if they built another one, a more up to date

1496
01:12:48,652 --> 01:12:50,533
Speaker 2: bunker for Canadian governments.

1497
01:12:50,933 --> 01:12:53,132
Speaker 23: Now, at the end of the Cold War ninety nineteen

1498
01:12:53,173 --> 01:12:55,732
Speaker 23: ninety eight, they turned it into a museum. You know,

1499
01:12:55,772 --> 01:12:59,532
Speaker 23: it was purely a Cold War response to nuclear attack.

1500
01:12:59,853 --> 01:13:03,412
Speaker 23: And now I say it's a museum and they're putting

1501
01:13:03,452 --> 01:13:05,692
Speaker 23: it back to him as I was there, you know,

1502
01:13:05,732 --> 01:13:08,852
Speaker 23: probably about fifteen eighteen years ago, and it was just

1503
01:13:08,933 --> 01:13:11,812
Speaker 23: being set up, so it was very spartan. But since

1504
01:13:11,853 --> 01:13:13,772
Speaker 23: then now and you've looked at the pictures, I think

1505
01:13:13,973 --> 01:13:16,372
Speaker 23: they're bringing back stuff that used to be in or

1506
01:13:16,452 --> 01:13:18,412
Speaker 23: the type of materials that would have been in it,

1507
01:13:18,692 --> 01:13:21,052
Speaker 23: as if it had got into use back in those

1508
01:13:21,213 --> 01:13:22,293
Speaker 23: back during the Cold War.

1509
01:13:22,452 --> 01:13:22,652
Speaker 5: Right.

1510
01:13:22,692 --> 01:13:24,692
Speaker 2: I think the set designers for the TV show Silo

1511
01:13:24,772 --> 01:13:26,532
Speaker 2: have been down to this bunker, you know, they do

1512
01:13:26,572 --> 01:13:30,732
Speaker 2: their research because it's certainly got similar vibes. Do we

1513
01:13:30,772 --> 01:13:32,932
Speaker 2: have anything like that in New Zealand? Does our government

1514
01:13:32,973 --> 01:13:36,812
Speaker 2: have a bunker? An emergency operations center?

1515
01:13:37,492 --> 01:13:40,372
Speaker 23: In the Beehive, there's the emergency bunk, you know, when

1516
01:13:40,532 --> 01:13:44,213
Speaker 23: they activated every time. I'm an ex serviceman, so I've

1517
01:13:44,253 --> 01:13:46,053
Speaker 23: actually been into it, but I know, you know, that's

1518
01:13:46,093 --> 01:13:49,732
Speaker 23: where in an emergency, a civil emergency, you know, or

1519
01:13:50,412 --> 01:13:52,812
Speaker 23: or you know what's going now, they activate the bunker

1520
01:13:52,973 --> 01:13:55,692
Speaker 23: and they call it in below the beehive.

1521
01:13:55,933 --> 01:13:59,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, and what the government could ride out something pretty

1522
01:13:59,532 --> 01:14:01,293
Speaker 3: catastrophic for for a little bit.

1523
01:14:01,173 --> 01:14:03,892
Speaker 23: Of time in there, Well, I guess they could. But

1524
01:14:03,933 --> 01:14:06,692
Speaker 23: that's where they control, you know, organize the country and

1525
01:14:06,772 --> 01:14:09,213
Speaker 23: event wells you would be where every time is a

1526
01:14:09,293 --> 01:14:13,652
Speaker 23: natural disaster, you know, like the recent typhoon, they activate

1527
01:14:13,732 --> 01:14:17,053
Speaker 23: the Emergency Response Center and that's where you you know,

1528
01:14:17,093 --> 01:14:21,173
Speaker 23: all emergency services, a military, so it's all coordinated from

1529
01:14:21,173 --> 01:14:21,932
Speaker 23: the one spot.

1530
01:14:22,093 --> 01:14:22,333
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1531
01:14:22,492 --> 01:14:25,132
Speaker 23: The nice test time for nuclear attack though.

1532
01:14:25,372 --> 01:14:30,133
Speaker 2: The NCMC, the National Crisis Emergency Management Center. I'll tell

1533
01:14:30,133 --> 01:14:31,893
Speaker 2: you what, when things go down, I'll be knocking on

1534
01:14:31,933 --> 01:14:33,732
Speaker 2: the door of that and telling them to let me in,

1535
01:14:34,333 --> 01:14:37,013
Speaker 2: Let me in, luck, get me a space. Guys. My

1536
01:14:37,053 --> 01:14:39,772
Speaker 2: mate was the project manager for a thirty five million

1537
01:14:39,772 --> 01:14:43,932
Speaker 2: dollar off grid bunker slash property around Queenstown somewhere. It

1538
01:14:43,933 --> 01:14:46,653
Speaker 2: could be off grid for ten years with commercial generators

1539
01:14:46,692 --> 01:14:48,773
Speaker 2: and ear was for an American billionaire.

1540
01:14:49,253 --> 01:14:51,173
Speaker 3: Or that is a juicy text, isn't it a three

1541
01:14:51,253 --> 01:14:51,973
Speaker 3: or or.

1542
01:14:52,053 --> 01:14:54,412
Speaker 2: A thirty five million dollar bunker. You're going to get

1543
01:14:54,412 --> 01:14:56,253
Speaker 2: a lot for that. This Texas is no bunker for

1544
01:14:56,293 --> 01:14:58,492
Speaker 2: me post apocalypse. I'd rather be up top and get

1545
01:14:58,492 --> 01:15:01,372
Speaker 2: the welder onto the ute mad Max style more fun

1546
01:15:01,412 --> 01:15:04,732
Speaker 2: than hiding underground. I'm not keen on being cooped onto

1547
01:15:04,732 --> 01:15:07,372
Speaker 2: a box. That cheers Simon, I like your style. Simon's

1548
01:15:07,412 --> 01:15:09,333
Speaker 2: immediately going to get a mo o hawk. He's gonna

1549
01:15:09,532 --> 01:15:13,972
Speaker 2: make some he weld up some armor and then gasoline strops,

1550
01:15:14,053 --> 01:15:17,812
Speaker 2: straps some under the front of as Tarana and the

1551
01:15:17,893 --> 01:15:19,253
Speaker 2: road call himself humongous.

1552
01:15:19,412 --> 01:15:23,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1553
01:15:23,293 --> 01:15:25,612
Speaker 3: Will take a few more phone calls very shortly. It's

1554
01:15:25,732 --> 01:15:26,412
Speaker 3: nine to three.

1555
01:15:28,732 --> 01:15:31,173
Speaker 7: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1556
01:15:31,213 --> 01:15:31,812
Speaker 7: along the way.

1557
01:15:32,053 --> 01:15:36,012
Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo XC N eighty innovation,

1558
01:15:36,213 --> 01:15:37,253
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1559
01:15:37,412 --> 01:15:38,012
Speaker 7: Have it all.

1560
01:15:38,133 --> 01:15:42,012
Speaker 2: News talks B news talks there B. It is six

1561
01:15:42,093 --> 01:15:42,852
Speaker 2: to three.

1562
01:15:43,933 --> 01:15:46,012
Speaker 3: Few texts coming in about tosday bunkers.

1563
01:15:46,093 --> 01:15:48,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's been a confirmed bunker built in New Zealand.

1564
01:15:48,812 --> 01:15:54,772
Speaker 2: A very luxurious, expensive bunker has been built by Safe,

1565
01:15:55,093 --> 01:15:57,692
Speaker 2: which is a bunker building company out of the States.

1566
01:15:57,853 --> 01:16:01,412
Speaker 2: A lot of people just texting the two words Peter

1567
01:16:01,492 --> 01:16:02,532
Speaker 2: Thield with question marks.

1568
01:16:02,732 --> 01:16:04,612
Speaker 3: Yeah wow, that he would be high on the list

1569
01:16:04,652 --> 01:16:06,253
Speaker 3: of potential to build that bunker.

1570
01:16:06,732 --> 01:16:08,212
Speaker 2: Pete your thoughts on bunkers?

1571
01:16:09,093 --> 01:16:12,492
Speaker 18: Yeah, hey, I'm putting my tinfoil hat on what if

1572
01:16:12,532 --> 01:16:15,612
Speaker 18: these guys because people saying the buglers in the Zealand,

1573
01:16:15,652 --> 01:16:18,053
Speaker 18: but nobody seems to know where they are. So what

1574
01:16:18,133 --> 01:16:20,333
Speaker 18: if these guys who are building the bungers are saying,

1575
01:16:20,372 --> 01:16:23,572
Speaker 18: you give us one point five to ten billion dollars,

1576
01:16:23,652 --> 01:16:25,692
Speaker 18: we'll build a bunk before you you can come down

1577
01:16:25,692 --> 01:16:27,492
Speaker 18: in the vent of the apocalypse and the just pocket

1578
01:16:27,532 --> 01:16:29,652
Speaker 18: the monte and don't build it, because like if the

1579
01:16:29,652 --> 01:16:31,253
Speaker 18: Wiel goes to pot are you going to say.

1580
01:16:31,452 --> 01:16:33,613
Speaker 2: Good boyt Yeah. Yeah.

1581
01:16:33,853 --> 01:16:36,173
Speaker 18: It's like these people that are that are selling pit

1582
01:16:36,293 --> 01:16:38,812
Speaker 18: insurance to feed their pits after the rapture and questions

1583
01:16:38,853 --> 01:16:39,612
Speaker 18: are stepping that up.

1584
01:16:39,772 --> 01:16:41,532
Speaker 3: You're not going to go to consuming New Zealand day

1585
01:16:41,652 --> 01:16:43,293
Speaker 3: and say, hey, these guys ripped me off my bunker.

1586
01:16:43,452 --> 01:16:45,093
Speaker 2: So there was.

1587
01:16:45,053 --> 01:16:47,932
Speaker 18: Actually they were talking about a vault oral the Canadian

1588
01:16:47,933 --> 01:16:49,492
Speaker 18: government was going to go and all the bullion was

1589
01:16:49,492 --> 01:16:51,772
Speaker 18: going to go Yeah, there was something similar to that

1590
01:16:51,893 --> 01:16:53,253
Speaker 18: in nine ee just north of.

1591
01:16:53,253 --> 01:16:57,253
Speaker 2: Wellington, right, So so like are you.

1592
01:16:57,333 --> 01:17:00,293
Speaker 18: Go State House in Rata Street and nine e and

1593
01:17:00,532 --> 01:17:02,412
Speaker 18: at the back of the bulletin was a big vault

1594
01:17:02,412 --> 01:17:04,372
Speaker 18: where all the bulletin would go in the event of

1595
01:17:04,372 --> 01:17:05,973
Speaker 18: a Japanese invasion during World War two.

1596
01:17:06,253 --> 01:17:10,053
Speaker 2: Just set the back of a state house in Ratas Street.

1597
01:17:10,853 --> 01:17:14,013
Speaker 2: I love that. That's a great key story. Thank you

1598
01:17:14,053 --> 01:17:16,692
Speaker 2: so much for you call, Pete. Bunkers have been built

1599
01:17:16,692 --> 01:17:20,772
Speaker 2: in Queenstown for the last thirty years, supposedly safest place

1600
01:17:20,772 --> 01:17:23,412
Speaker 2: in the world for nuclear fallouts. As a stector text

1601
01:17:23,452 --> 01:17:25,333
Speaker 2: to hey guys, a doomsday banker is a complete waste

1602
01:17:25,333 --> 01:17:27,092
Speaker 2: of time and money unless you are in the country

1603
01:17:27,093 --> 01:17:31,532
Speaker 2: where the bunker is and are within probably half an

1604
01:17:31,612 --> 01:17:33,852
Speaker 2: hour away from it. Also, why would you want to

1605
01:17:33,893 --> 01:17:36,732
Speaker 2: be around after a nuclear event? That's from Mary. Yeah,

1606
01:17:36,732 --> 01:17:39,852
Speaker 2: I mean you can see. It's actually quite a good

1607
01:17:39,853 --> 01:17:41,892
Speaker 2: plot to a movie. Some people have a bunker built

1608
01:17:41,933 --> 01:17:44,253
Speaker 2: in another town. What Pete's saying, in another country, You

1609
01:17:44,293 --> 01:17:46,053
Speaker 2: get in your private jet with your family, all your

1610
01:17:46,093 --> 01:17:49,052
Speaker 2: wealthy friends. You arrive and it turns out that someone's

1611
01:17:49,173 --> 01:17:53,053
Speaker 2: just they've just aied upper pictures of the bunker that

1612
01:17:53,053 --> 01:17:56,452
Speaker 2: they've built, and you know, and then they haven't built

1613
01:17:56,492 --> 01:17:58,652
Speaker 2: anything either that or there and there with their family,

1614
01:17:58,973 --> 01:18:00,053
Speaker 2: and they're not going to lead you in.

1615
01:18:00,253 --> 01:18:03,812
Speaker 3: Sorry buddy, Yeah, snooze, you lose. Great discussion that, thank

1616
01:18:03,853 --> 01:18:07,852
Speaker 3: you very much, right after three o'clock looking forward to this.

1617
01:18:08,412 --> 01:18:11,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. I spent some time with some buffalo

1618
01:18:11,652 --> 01:18:13,892
Speaker 2: in the weekend out in Cleveden and love a buffalo,

1619
01:18:14,013 --> 01:18:16,932
Speaker 2: but just got me interested in into talking about different

1620
01:18:16,933 --> 01:18:19,372
Speaker 2: types of livestock people are running in the country. What

1621
01:18:19,412 --> 01:18:21,892
Speaker 2: are you farming? That's a bit different from the sheep

1622
01:18:21,933 --> 01:18:23,532
Speaker 2: and the cattle that we're so famous for.

1623
01:18:23,692 --> 01:18:25,532
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1624
01:18:25,612 --> 01:18:27,612
Speaker 3: number to call. Nineteen nine two is the text number

1625
01:18:27,853 --> 01:18:30,732
Speaker 3: where we'll catch you again after Newsport in Weather which

1626
01:18:30,772 --> 01:18:31,573
Speaker 3: is next.

1627
01:18:33,973 --> 01:18:38,372
Speaker 1: Your new home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie

1628
01:18:38,412 --> 01:18:42,492
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons with the Volvo XC eighty on.

1629
01:18:42,572 --> 01:18:43,532
Speaker 7: News Talk SEV.

1630
01:18:44,612 --> 01:18:47,493
Speaker 2: Very very good afternoons you happy Monday.

1631
01:18:47,572 --> 01:18:50,652
Speaker 3: Great to have your company as always, and thank you

1632
01:18:50,732 --> 01:18:52,773
Speaker 3: very much for all the phone calls and the correspondence

1633
01:18:52,772 --> 01:18:56,452
Speaker 3: over the last couple of hours. But on to unusual

1634
01:18:56,572 --> 01:18:58,092
Speaker 3: animals that you farm.

1635
01:18:58,532 --> 01:19:02,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So I was in Cleveden over the

1636
01:19:02,293 --> 01:19:06,772
Speaker 2: weekend and I was hanging around some buffaloe and I

1637
01:19:06,812 --> 01:19:11,612
Speaker 2: was impressed by buffalosally the thought about farming different different animals,

1638
01:19:11,652 --> 01:19:14,133
Speaker 2: and of course Cleveland buffalo are very famous. You can

1639
01:19:14,333 --> 01:19:17,652
Speaker 2: you get you get the buffalo milk, you get the

1640
01:19:17,692 --> 01:19:21,013
Speaker 2: buffalo fetter, you get the butalo buffalo meat. But it

1641
01:19:21,133 --> 01:19:24,293
Speaker 2: just made me think about what people are farming around

1642
01:19:24,293 --> 01:19:27,133
Speaker 2: the country, and the challenges of farming different things, and

1643
01:19:27,213 --> 01:19:30,892
Speaker 2: why you farm something that isn't just the standard cattle

1644
01:19:30,933 --> 01:19:31,852
Speaker 2: and sheep like you.

1645
01:19:31,973 --> 01:19:34,972
Speaker 3: I had no idea buffalo farms existed, and I'm glad

1646
01:19:35,013 --> 01:19:38,253
Speaker 3: they do. But remember there was a time where alpacas

1647
01:19:38,333 --> 01:19:40,452
Speaker 3: was quite trendy. There was a lot going on with

1648
01:19:40,572 --> 01:19:44,093
Speaker 3: the alpaka community, maybe because their wool was worth a

1649
01:19:44,093 --> 01:19:47,892
Speaker 3: bit more. But oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty

1650
01:19:47,973 --> 01:19:50,572
Speaker 3: is the number to call if you farm an unusual animal.

1651
01:19:50,732 --> 01:19:53,093
Speaker 2: We love to see. I just want to hear about it. Yeah,

1652
01:19:53,133 --> 01:19:55,852
Speaker 2: I found it uniquely interesting. Imagine the challenges you know,

1653
01:19:56,133 --> 01:19:59,973
Speaker 2: a from an abatoass perspective and just a grazing perspective

1654
01:20:00,093 --> 01:20:03,093
Speaker 2: and fencing and just the logistics are very different from

1655
01:20:03,093 --> 01:20:05,093
Speaker 2: the tried and true that have been done by so

1656
01:20:05,173 --> 01:20:06,052
Speaker 2: many people over the years.

1657
01:20:06,053 --> 01:20:09,173
Speaker 3: Even deer would be considered, you know, slightly left. Yep, dear,

1658
01:20:09,412 --> 01:20:10,052
Speaker 3: quite unique.

1659
01:20:10,173 --> 01:20:12,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, a few people farming emo out there. Now, I'll

1660
01:20:12,652 --> 01:20:12,973
Speaker 2: tell you what.

1661
01:20:13,133 --> 01:20:15,612
Speaker 3: Someone who was listening a little bit earlier when she

1662
01:20:15,732 --> 01:20:17,412
Speaker 3: heard that you stayed at this farm and saw the

1663
01:20:17,452 --> 01:20:22,412
Speaker 3: beautiful buffalo is Helen Dorristein. She is the owner of

1664
01:20:22,612 --> 01:20:27,333
Speaker 3: Cliveden Buffalo Company, and joins us on the phone now afternoon.

1665
01:20:26,812 --> 01:20:30,973
Speaker 2: Helen, Hi, how are you so you own the buffaloes

1666
01:20:31,173 --> 01:20:34,093
Speaker 2: that I was probably staring at? Do you own the

1667
01:20:34,093 --> 01:20:35,293
Speaker 2: ones that are near the cafe?

1668
01:20:35,372 --> 01:20:40,333
Speaker 11: The near the cafe? So we own We've got we've

1669
01:20:40,372 --> 01:20:43,093
Speaker 11: got a large head and we have two farms, one

1670
01:20:43,133 --> 01:20:46,652
Speaker 11: down North Road and one towards car Car Bay.

1671
01:20:47,013 --> 01:20:48,093
Speaker 2: Oh right, got.

1672
01:20:47,973 --> 01:20:50,372
Speaker 11: About to two hundred head. Oh you would have seen.

1673
01:20:50,412 --> 01:20:50,492
Speaker 12: No.

1674
01:20:50,612 --> 01:20:53,213
Speaker 11: I raised the ones that are at the little cafe.

1675
01:20:54,133 --> 01:20:56,253
Speaker 11: They were my They were my pets, used to follow

1676
01:20:56,293 --> 01:20:58,532
Speaker 11: me around the garden and then usually sold them to

1677
01:20:58,532 --> 01:20:59,132
Speaker 11: the farmhouse.

1678
01:20:59,133 --> 01:21:03,452
Speaker 2: The farmhouse cafe, which is a fantastic operation. Boy that

1679
01:21:03,532 --> 01:21:05,173
Speaker 2: I mean that you have to book a table there.

1680
01:21:05,213 --> 01:21:07,253
Speaker 2: It is a very very busy, great food, great great time.

1681
01:21:07,333 --> 01:21:07,812
Speaker 11: Faint.

1682
01:21:07,973 --> 01:21:11,372
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. So what what what made you guys get

1683
01:21:11,412 --> 01:21:12,732
Speaker 2: into farming Buffalo?

1684
01:21:14,692 --> 01:21:18,772
Speaker 11: Well, simply, we started the Farmer's Market, Cleveland Farmer's Market.

1685
01:21:18,772 --> 01:21:19,532
Speaker 11: We still run it.

1686
01:21:19,893 --> 01:21:21,893
Speaker 2: That's can I just compliment you on that. I was

1687
01:21:21,893 --> 01:21:26,652
Speaker 2: at the Cleveland Farmer's Market. What a great, great set

1688
01:21:26,732 --> 01:21:28,892
Speaker 2: up that is. It's just so cool, you know, buying

1689
01:21:29,253 --> 01:21:32,052
Speaker 2: eggs that have been that are from the farmer that

1690
01:21:32,053 --> 01:21:35,492
Speaker 2: that that you know that I was going to say

1691
01:21:35,492 --> 01:21:38,253
Speaker 2: the farmer that laid the eggs, the farmer probably collected

1692
01:21:38,293 --> 01:21:39,213
Speaker 2: them rather than laid them.

1693
01:21:39,333 --> 01:21:41,652
Speaker 3: How life should be going right back to basics.

1694
01:21:41,692 --> 01:21:44,733
Speaker 2: Wine from the wine makers, eggs from the egg makers.

1695
01:21:44,492 --> 01:21:45,533
Speaker 2: It's it's fantastic.

1696
01:21:46,812 --> 01:21:49,772
Speaker 11: We've you know, we've eaten exclusively from the market for

1697
01:21:49,812 --> 01:21:53,253
Speaker 11: the last twenty years and it's been an absolute pleasure,

1698
01:21:53,853 --> 01:21:57,572
Speaker 11: absolute pleasure. So we've got sorry, you got many friends. Sorry,

1699
01:21:57,572 --> 01:22:02,132
Speaker 11: we've got many friends. Friendships sort of developed from that process,

1700
01:22:02,213 --> 01:22:02,412
Speaker 11: you know.

1701
01:22:03,173 --> 01:22:06,333
Speaker 3: So going back to starting up the Buffalo farm, how

1702
01:22:06,372 --> 01:22:08,092
Speaker 3: does one get a buffalo into the country.

1703
01:22:09,253 --> 01:22:13,893
Speaker 11: Oh, we flew them in. They flew and liftanza and

1704
01:22:13,973 --> 01:22:17,572
Speaker 11: bo bogie buffalo. You know they were in the cargo hold,

1705
01:22:17,572 --> 01:22:20,052
Speaker 11: and actually we had one shipment, so we bought sixty

1706
01:22:20,093 --> 01:22:21,852
Speaker 11: head and we were the first people to bring a

1707
01:22:21,893 --> 01:22:24,852
Speaker 11: milking herd in. And it was we had to write

1708
01:22:24,893 --> 01:22:28,972
Speaker 11: the protocol. Honestly, we were young, and we just thought

1709
01:22:28,973 --> 01:22:31,492
Speaker 11: we were bullet proof. And you know when I say young,

1710
01:22:31,612 --> 01:22:34,972
Speaker 11: you know, fortyish. But we thought we were capable of anything.

1711
01:22:35,053 --> 01:22:38,372
Speaker 11: And it certainly tried us. But so we wrote the protocol,

1712
01:22:38,532 --> 01:22:41,213
Speaker 11: got them in. But the third shipment, because we we

1713
01:22:41,293 --> 01:22:44,852
Speaker 11: bought in sixty head altogether in four balls, and the

1714
01:22:44,973 --> 01:22:49,333
Speaker 11: third shipment was just before Christmas, and they loaded them

1715
01:22:49,333 --> 01:22:51,372
Speaker 11: wrong and they kicked a hole in the in the

1716
01:22:51,412 --> 01:22:54,213
Speaker 11: crate and the whole plane added turner around and we

1717
01:22:54,933 --> 01:22:57,253
Speaker 11: thought we were in for about three hundred thousand dollars

1718
01:22:57,333 --> 01:23:01,372
Speaker 11: worth of plane turnaround, but it was their fault, thank goodness,

1719
01:23:01,372 --> 01:23:02,812
Speaker 11: and we did get them in, and we got them

1720
01:23:02,812 --> 01:23:05,052
Speaker 11: in just in the nick of time because to bring

1721
01:23:05,093 --> 01:23:09,213
Speaker 11: in sufficient animals, we brought them in actually pregnant, but

1722
01:23:09,253 --> 01:23:11,612
Speaker 11: you can only bring them in to a certain extent

1723
01:23:11,652 --> 01:23:14,333
Speaker 11: of their gestation or you know, it's not fair. So

1724
01:23:14,372 --> 01:23:17,612
Speaker 11: that that was tricky. It was Christmas. The planes were

1725
01:23:17,772 --> 01:23:20,452
Speaker 11: shutting down, and the animals were pregnant, and there were

1726
01:23:20,732 --> 01:23:22,493
Speaker 11: hundreds of thousands of dollars in line.

1727
01:23:22,732 --> 01:23:23,692
Speaker 5: It was hair raising.

1728
01:23:24,173 --> 01:23:26,052
Speaker 11: Yeah, so it was pretty exciting.

1729
01:23:26,732 --> 01:23:28,492
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I think I interrupted you when you were

1730
01:23:28,532 --> 01:23:33,093
Speaker 2: saying when your answered the question, why, oh.

1731
01:23:32,772 --> 01:23:37,452
Speaker 11: Well, farmer's market. So Farmer's Market, Cornerstone. Farmer's Market is

1732
01:23:37,492 --> 01:23:40,333
Speaker 11: everything you need for a good meal. You do have

1733
01:23:40,372 --> 01:23:43,293
Speaker 11: to cook it, but a good meal, and cheese is

1734
01:23:43,333 --> 01:23:46,173
Speaker 11: one of those things. And I had lovely cheese there,

1735
01:23:46,213 --> 01:23:48,133
Speaker 11: but they wouldn't come on a wet day and they

1736
01:23:48,133 --> 01:23:52,372
Speaker 11: weren't regular, and I needed that market to have regular cheesemakers.

1737
01:23:52,412 --> 01:23:55,612
Speaker 11: So my husband said, I'll make you some cheese, Darling,

1738
01:23:55,692 --> 01:24:00,812
Speaker 11: and held them so and we thought. We looked at

1739
01:24:00,853 --> 01:24:04,213
Speaker 11: it long and hard, and we decided that the only

1740
01:24:04,253 --> 01:24:07,052
Speaker 11: way to have an edge in a place, an open

1741
01:24:07,093 --> 01:24:09,532
Speaker 11: market like New Zealand was to a milk that was different,

1742
01:24:09,612 --> 01:24:12,772
Speaker 11: where one of the requirements was the freshness of the milk.

1743
01:24:13,372 --> 01:24:17,692
Speaker 11: And so Buffalo, we're not farmed here. We've been to Italy.

1744
01:24:17,772 --> 01:24:20,572
Speaker 11: We'd eaten Motsralla in the Bay of Naples. We knew

1745
01:24:20,612 --> 01:24:23,452
Speaker 11: how good it was. You know, anyone that's traveled through

1746
01:24:24,412 --> 01:24:27,253
Speaker 11: Pakistan or India will know how beautiful the buffalo milk

1747
01:24:27,293 --> 01:24:30,093
Speaker 11: products are there, and it just wasn't happening here. And

1748
01:24:30,133 --> 01:24:34,652
Speaker 11: so we thought, well we'll have a go and and

1749
01:24:34,772 --> 01:24:36,933
Speaker 11: you know, six literally six days later, we're in the

1750
01:24:36,933 --> 01:24:41,652
Speaker 11: middle of Darwin and a little old jimney sort of

1751
01:24:41,692 --> 01:24:44,452
Speaker 11: tied together with string, going through creeks full of salties,

1752
01:24:44,492 --> 01:24:47,532
Speaker 11: looking at these buffalo and I said, I'm not milking them.

1753
01:24:49,973 --> 01:24:53,452
Speaker 11: And we take a crocodile dundee moment and they were wild.

1754
01:24:53,853 --> 01:24:56,372
Speaker 11: So the first first year or five milking was this

1755
01:24:56,492 --> 01:24:59,173
Speaker 11: was like the wild West. They'd jump around and turn

1756
01:24:59,253 --> 01:25:02,492
Speaker 11: upside down and climb out and it was it was

1757
01:25:02,532 --> 01:25:06,213
Speaker 11: hell on wheels. But now we've got a tremendous, milky,

1758
01:25:06,372 --> 01:25:10,372
Speaker 11: beautiful herd, and we've through sleeped of breeding and ai

1759
01:25:10,572 --> 01:25:14,173
Speaker 11: from we're bringing seamen in from Italy. We've actually got

1760
01:25:15,133 --> 01:25:18,852
Speaker 11: tripled our milk volume. Well, yeah, it's it's now looking viable,

1761
01:25:18,933 --> 01:25:19,532
Speaker 11: you know what I mean.

1762
01:25:19,732 --> 01:25:22,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, I'm our producer. Andrew here is a

1763
01:25:22,372 --> 01:25:24,572
Speaker 2: huge fan of buffalo milk. He said, there's no creamy

1764
01:25:24,572 --> 01:25:25,372
Speaker 2: of milk in the world.

1765
01:25:26,133 --> 01:25:28,812
Speaker 11: Oh, it's divine. I like to lay track on people

1766
01:25:28,812 --> 01:25:30,933
Speaker 11: and they come over to the house for you know,

1767
01:25:31,013 --> 01:25:33,373
Speaker 11: we had a guy there this morning doing some contracting

1768
01:25:33,412 --> 01:25:37,053
Speaker 11: for us, Derek. He's lovely and he I gave him

1769
01:25:37,053 --> 01:25:41,133
Speaker 11: a fat white seat and then I said it's buffalo milk.

1770
01:25:41,173 --> 01:25:43,572
Speaker 11: And they literally, you know, because they don't know why

1771
01:25:43,572 --> 01:25:46,372
Speaker 11: it's so creamy, but it's beautiful, beautiful a cup of coffee.

1772
01:25:46,452 --> 01:25:48,772
Speaker 3: We can you get it outside of the Farmer's Market.

1773
01:25:50,213 --> 01:25:53,013
Speaker 11: Well, we sell our cheeses throughout the country, you know,

1774
01:25:53,732 --> 01:25:56,652
Speaker 11: wonderful support of places like more Wilson and so on

1775
01:25:56,732 --> 01:26:00,692
Speaker 11: and through the New Worlds and Farrows. But we also

1776
01:26:00,772 --> 01:26:04,173
Speaker 11: sell hospital and to hospital, about sixty percent into hospit.

1777
01:26:04,853 --> 01:26:06,932
Speaker 11: But the farmer's market is where you'll get to try

1778
01:26:06,973 --> 01:26:11,572
Speaker 11: the whole range, and we're there. We're there every weekend anyway,

1779
01:26:11,732 --> 01:26:15,652
Speaker 11: and so I don't know if you know, but it's

1780
01:26:15,652 --> 01:26:20,812
Speaker 11: actually Farmer's Market Week coming up this Saturday. So if

1781
01:26:20,853 --> 01:26:23,972
Speaker 11: you get on down to a farmer's market, nine times

1782
01:26:24,013 --> 01:26:27,213
Speaker 11: out of ten you're guaranteed to find someone doing something

1783
01:26:27,412 --> 01:26:29,692
Speaker 11: really interesting you know that you haven't tried before.

1784
01:26:30,372 --> 01:26:33,053
Speaker 14: Yeah, yea of.

1785
01:26:33,133 --> 01:26:35,253
Speaker 2: Things you haven't tried before. What would you say to

1786
01:26:35,293 --> 01:26:38,293
Speaker 2: people that are thinking of bringing in an animal and

1787
01:26:38,692 --> 01:26:43,092
Speaker 2: trying to farm creatures that aren't the typical New Zealand

1788
01:26:43,093 --> 01:26:43,852
Speaker 2: creatures to farm.

1789
01:26:45,093 --> 01:26:52,973
Speaker 11: I would say keep your day job because it's a

1790
01:26:53,053 --> 01:26:56,253
Speaker 11: long time before you actually turn it around, like a

1791
01:26:56,372 --> 01:27:00,492
Speaker 11: really long time. It's not bit coin, you know, and

1792
01:27:00,572 --> 01:27:04,412
Speaker 11: I'd say embrace it and be patient and have faith

1793
01:27:04,452 --> 01:27:08,333
Speaker 11: in yourself and don't need I mean, I had peace

1794
01:27:08,372 --> 01:27:10,133
Speaker 11: will literally laugh at me when we were doing I

1795
01:27:10,133 --> 01:27:12,133
Speaker 11: had one guy I just loved what did you do

1796
01:27:12,173 --> 01:27:14,293
Speaker 11: that for? It said, we just laughed at me, you know,

1797
01:27:15,372 --> 01:27:17,972
Speaker 11: and I just think, well, yeah, you know, I'm probably

1798
01:27:17,973 --> 01:27:20,372
Speaker 11: not the most sensible thing to do, but gosh, we

1799
01:27:20,452 --> 01:27:22,253
Speaker 11: make grape cheese and we've had a lot of fun.

1800
01:27:23,013 --> 01:27:25,452
Speaker 2: Good on you. It's a very cool thing. Yeah, and

1801
01:27:25,452 --> 01:27:29,293
Speaker 2: it's exciting. And you know, the challenges because those buffalo

1802
01:27:29,333 --> 01:27:31,372
Speaker 2: need to be underwater part of some of the time, don't.

1803
01:27:31,213 --> 01:27:34,093
Speaker 11: They They love to wallow. And actually that was one

1804
01:27:34,133 --> 01:27:36,732
Speaker 11: of the hugest challenges because of course the farms, some

1805
01:27:36,732 --> 01:27:38,692
Speaker 11: of the farms and cleaved in lake parks, you know,

1806
01:27:39,452 --> 01:27:41,612
Speaker 11: and so trying to because we wanted to keep the

1807
01:27:41,612 --> 01:27:43,933
Speaker 11: horns on them because they use them like a radiator,

1808
01:27:43,973 --> 01:27:46,333
Speaker 11: because they have they have less sweat glands and a cow.

1809
01:27:47,013 --> 01:27:50,133
Speaker 11: So they cover themselves in the clay from the from

1810
01:27:50,173 --> 01:27:53,372
Speaker 11: the from the wallows to cook, keep themselves cold, and

1811
01:27:53,452 --> 01:27:57,732
Speaker 11: keep the pests off themselves, and so to try to

1812
01:27:58,093 --> 01:27:59,892
Speaker 11: make sure that we could keep the horns on them,

1813
01:27:59,933 --> 01:28:02,253
Speaker 11: you know, and say, well, you so do make holes,

1814
01:28:02,253 --> 01:28:04,492
Speaker 11: but we will fill them on every year and so on,

1815
01:28:04,572 --> 01:28:06,732
Speaker 11: and so you know, one of the dreams is one day,

1816
01:28:06,732 --> 01:28:09,333
Speaker 11: when we have our own farm, we'd a beautiful, big,

1817
01:28:09,372 --> 01:28:13,333
Speaker 11: permanent wash for them. And you know, because they love

1818
01:28:13,412 --> 01:28:14,372
Speaker 11: they do love the water.

1819
01:28:14,532 --> 01:28:15,293
Speaker 5: They just love it.

1820
01:28:15,452 --> 01:28:17,972
Speaker 2: What a great story. I well, thank you so much

1821
01:28:17,973 --> 01:28:20,532
Speaker 2: for sharing that story with us, Helen, and congratulations on

1822
01:28:20,572 --> 01:28:22,492
Speaker 2: your success with the Buffalo and good on you for

1823
01:28:22,732 --> 01:28:26,212
Speaker 2: doing such a bold thing. And also love the Cleveland

1824
01:28:26,213 --> 01:28:28,293
Speaker 2: Farmer's markets. Such a good time, so cool.

1825
01:28:28,452 --> 01:28:32,532
Speaker 11: Hey, thanks for coming to Cleveland. Pretty well, we love

1826
01:28:32,532 --> 01:28:33,012
Speaker 11: it out there.

1827
01:28:33,253 --> 01:28:36,732
Speaker 2: I'll be back all right, have a great day. Bye.

1828
01:28:36,772 --> 01:28:41,732
Speaker 3: That is Helen Dorenstein, co founder of the Cleveden Buffalo Company.

1829
01:28:41,812 --> 01:28:42,652
Speaker 2: What a great story.

1830
01:28:42,692 --> 01:28:44,572
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, key is like that taking a punt,

1831
01:28:44,572 --> 01:28:47,572
Speaker 3: and they obviously took a massive punt and it's worked

1832
01:28:47,612 --> 01:28:48,212
Speaker 3: out phenomenally.

1833
01:28:48,253 --> 01:28:50,293
Speaker 2: Here were you farming something weird love to hear from

1834
01:28:50,372 --> 01:28:53,932
Speaker 2: here eighty or nineteen nine two is the text number

1835
01:28:53,973 --> 01:28:54,972
Speaker 2: seventeen past three.

1836
01:28:55,452 --> 01:28:58,412
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, We've asked a question, what unusual animal do

1837
01:28:58,492 --> 01:29:01,692
Speaker 3: you farm? On the back of Matt spending the weekend

1838
01:29:01,772 --> 01:29:04,093
Speaker 3: down at a farm in Clevedon and seeing buffaloes and

1839
01:29:04,133 --> 01:29:06,612
Speaker 3: being enamored with those beautiful beasts on.

1840
01:29:06,612 --> 01:29:08,452
Speaker 2: The back of the breaking news that I was or

1841
01:29:08,492 --> 01:29:11,812
Speaker 2: a buffalo and I was. I was very interested in them,

1842
01:29:12,572 --> 01:29:14,972
Speaker 2: very cool beasts. But what are the cool beasts you're

1843
01:29:14,973 --> 01:29:17,053
Speaker 2: farming in New Zealand, Sharon.

1844
01:29:18,372 --> 01:29:22,053
Speaker 24: Oh, good afternoon. One of then a few years ago.

1845
01:29:22,093 --> 01:29:26,372
Speaker 24: Now I used to find well, they're not that unusual nowadays,

1846
01:29:26,412 --> 01:29:30,572
Speaker 24: but we used to farm angora goats and we used

1847
01:29:30,612 --> 01:29:33,492
Speaker 24: to farm so oh deer. This is an awkland I'm

1848
01:29:33,492 --> 01:29:35,772
Speaker 24: talking about. It was only a lifestyle block, so it

1849
01:29:35,853 --> 01:29:39,532
Speaker 24: wasn't a big farm, and that was quite interesting, so

1850
01:29:39,612 --> 01:29:43,812
Speaker 24: the least, but the because the deer were absolutely gorgeous.

1851
01:29:43,853 --> 01:29:46,613
Speaker 24: But not very far down the road from where Islands

1852
01:29:46,772 --> 01:29:50,173
Speaker 24: is Alan Gibs Sculpture Park. Now he's got there that

1853
01:29:50,293 --> 01:29:55,093
Speaker 24: he farms are zebrains, EMUs and giraffes, wow, long hang

1854
01:29:55,213 --> 01:29:58,652
Speaker 24: cattle and all sorts of things, so he would be

1855
01:29:58,732 --> 01:30:02,093
Speaker 24: most of one and probably one of those unusual farmers.

1856
01:30:02,412 --> 01:30:02,932
Speaker 6: I would say.

1857
01:30:03,532 --> 01:30:07,052
Speaker 2: So when you say farming, is he farming zebra? Zebra

1858
01:30:07,253 --> 01:30:09,973
Speaker 2: or a zebra or a is he keeping them?

1859
01:30:10,572 --> 01:30:12,812
Speaker 24: Well, I guess you could say he's probably keeping them,

1860
01:30:12,893 --> 01:30:14,892
Speaker 24: you know, on the place. But he does have quite

1861
01:30:14,933 --> 01:30:18,572
Speaker 24: a few long haul cattle and other sorts of beasts

1862
01:30:18,692 --> 01:30:22,093
Speaker 24: like that as well in goats so and sheep, of

1863
01:30:22,133 --> 01:30:25,213
Speaker 24: course anybody else does. But definitely seeing the other things

1864
01:30:25,253 --> 01:30:27,653
Speaker 24: that the pad, especially the draft, is unusual.

1865
01:30:27,452 --> 01:30:29,692
Speaker 2: That's so good. I wonder of the rules on what

1866
01:30:29,772 --> 01:30:31,732
Speaker 2: you can take to an abatoir. I'd love to if

1867
01:30:31,772 --> 01:30:34,173
Speaker 2: someone knows on eight hundred and eighteen eighty. So if

1868
01:30:34,213 --> 01:30:37,213
Speaker 2: I turned up to you know, with my trailer and

1869
01:30:37,253 --> 01:30:40,532
Speaker 2: I had a couple of zebra on there, can can

1870
01:30:40,612 --> 01:30:42,812
Speaker 2: can you keep cut these up for me? I wonder

1871
01:30:42,853 --> 01:30:45,452
Speaker 2: what people would say. There's probably some rules around that.

1872
01:30:46,973 --> 01:30:49,852
Speaker 24: Well possibly, but I remember one day I did actually

1873
01:30:49,893 --> 01:30:52,293
Speaker 24: see one arrive on a trailer.

1874
01:30:53,532 --> 01:30:54,532
Speaker 5: That was kind of unusual.

1875
01:30:54,572 --> 01:30:55,652
Speaker 19: You're driving along the road.

1876
01:30:55,812 --> 01:31:00,133
Speaker 24: Well, but yeah, I don't know about that.

1877
01:31:00,372 --> 01:31:02,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, does he does he make zebra cheese and and

1878
01:31:02,893 --> 01:31:04,893
Speaker 3: ter rap cheese.

1879
01:31:05,133 --> 01:31:07,213
Speaker 24: Well, not that I know, but you know, there's probably

1880
01:31:07,293 --> 01:31:08,013
Speaker 24: the reason why I could.

1881
01:31:08,093 --> 01:31:08,293
Speaker 15: Can you.

1882
01:31:11,893 --> 01:31:12,732
Speaker 6: Would be interesting.

1883
01:31:13,933 --> 01:31:16,852
Speaker 2: I was on this television show called Taskmaster and it

1884
01:31:16,973 --> 01:31:20,133
Speaker 2: shot out at a mansion outside of Auckland, and that

1885
01:31:20,293 --> 01:31:22,652
Speaker 2: was built built for people that wanted to have drafts,

1886
01:31:22,732 --> 01:31:24,692
Speaker 2: and they had this dream that some wealthy people, they

1887
01:31:24,692 --> 01:31:26,492
Speaker 2: had dreams that they could feed the drafts off the

1888
01:31:26,652 --> 01:31:29,412
Speaker 2: deck up the top deck, so the top decks really

1889
01:31:29,452 --> 01:31:31,732
Speaker 2: high up so that they thought, oh, the drafts will

1890
01:31:31,732 --> 01:31:33,492
Speaker 2: come up and will just feed them off there. But

1891
01:31:33,532 --> 01:31:35,253
Speaker 2: then the neighbors were complained and they were allowed to

1892
01:31:35,253 --> 01:31:39,093
Speaker 2: get the draft see country and no. Thank you so

1893
01:31:39,173 --> 01:31:43,532
Speaker 2: much for your call. Sharon. Thank Sharon. Sorry, do you

1894
01:31:43,532 --> 01:31:45,253
Speaker 2: have something else to say this? Sharon, Sorry, cut you off.

1895
01:31:46,093 --> 01:31:48,013
Speaker 24: I'm just going to say, you actually can feed them.

1896
01:31:48,532 --> 01:31:48,732
Speaker 18: You know.

1897
01:31:49,013 --> 01:31:51,173
Speaker 24: I've actually been to the place and you're standing on

1898
01:31:51,213 --> 01:31:53,932
Speaker 24: a particular part where they are, and they are just right.

1899
01:31:54,013 --> 01:31:59,133
Speaker 2: The draft has a terrifying black tongue, doesn't it. Their

1900
01:31:59,173 --> 01:32:02,453
Speaker 2: tongues are blue blue.

1901
01:32:01,772 --> 01:32:05,692
Speaker 3: Blue toes, Yeah, though, don't they They're very lucky animal.

1902
01:32:06,133 --> 01:32:07,893
Speaker 2: I fit a draft at a zoo once, so I

1903
01:32:07,933 --> 01:32:10,333
Speaker 2: thought that was black, but yeah, dark blue maybe Thank

1904
01:32:10,372 --> 01:32:11,932
Speaker 2: you so much for your call, Charon.

1905
01:32:12,652 --> 01:32:15,852
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

1906
01:32:15,933 --> 01:32:17,293
Speaker 3: call just to tax so he I'd like to see

1907
01:32:17,293 --> 01:32:21,932
Speaker 3: your milk a giraffe, Tyler. That's a fair point. If

1908
01:32:21,973 --> 01:32:23,892
Speaker 3: they didn't like you doing that, well, that would be

1909
01:32:23,893 --> 01:32:24,852
Speaker 3: the last of you, wouldn't it.

1910
01:32:24,893 --> 01:32:28,812
Speaker 2: What's the quote from Meet the Parents. I've got nipples?

1911
01:32:28,812 --> 01:32:31,772
Speaker 2: Could you milk me good? On the butterfalo lady? Love

1912
01:32:31,853 --> 01:32:33,932
Speaker 2: to hear that. That's the good old New Zealand spirit

1913
01:32:34,213 --> 01:32:37,372
Speaker 2: missing nowadays. Hey, guys, I made heaps of money from

1914
01:32:37,372 --> 01:32:40,532
Speaker 2: my ugly sheep. They were valuable because of the wool

1915
01:32:40,572 --> 01:32:42,732
Speaker 2: they produce. Yeah, all right, okay, all right.

1916
01:32:42,772 --> 01:32:45,612
Speaker 3: If you farm an unusual and more just something slightly

1917
01:32:45,652 --> 01:32:47,173
Speaker 3: left field, love to hear from you on Oh eight

1918
01:32:47,253 --> 01:32:48,692
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty.

1919
01:32:48,933 --> 01:32:50,573
Speaker 2: It is twenty three past.

1920
01:32:50,293 --> 01:32:57,732
Speaker 20: Three, Mad Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh eight

1921
01:32:57,853 --> 01:33:00,932
Speaker 20: hundred eighty ten eighty on news Talk z'b very.

1922
01:33:00,772 --> 01:33:03,213
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, dude, twenty six past three.

1923
01:33:03,372 --> 01:33:05,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking about farming odd animals. After I had

1924
01:33:05,933 --> 01:33:07,812
Speaker 2: a great time with some buffalo. That sounds kind of weird.

1925
01:33:07,853 --> 01:33:11,253
Speaker 2: In the weekend, Dave you ran an emu fan.

1926
01:33:12,652 --> 01:33:15,333
Speaker 16: Yeah, I used to manage the avatar on the world's

1927
01:33:15,333 --> 01:33:17,012
Speaker 16: biggest innu farm in Western Australia.

1928
01:33:17,253 --> 01:33:19,852
Speaker 3: Ah right, oh right, So tell us more. How many

1929
01:33:19,893 --> 01:33:22,213
Speaker 3: emu would be on the world's biggest inu farm.

1930
01:33:22,772 --> 01:33:26,173
Speaker 16: We had five thousand breeders. We're on a two hundred

1931
01:33:26,213 --> 01:33:30,892
Speaker 16: and sixty thousand acred property, but five thousand acres of

1932
01:33:30,933 --> 01:33:32,372
Speaker 16: that was farmed for the inu.

1933
01:33:33,452 --> 01:33:38,213
Speaker 2: What are the challenges of farming? And you know running

1934
01:33:38,213 --> 01:33:41,333
Speaker 2: an enu avatoire, have you just out in.

1935
01:33:41,333 --> 01:33:44,053
Speaker 16: The bush and it's just just to make You're to

1936
01:33:44,133 --> 01:33:47,452
Speaker 16: breed them and because they're all grain feeds as well.

1937
01:33:47,452 --> 01:33:49,412
Speaker 16: When we used to breed them, get the eggs, we

1938
01:33:49,452 --> 01:33:52,293
Speaker 16: had our own hatchery. We hatch our eggs and then

1939
01:33:52,333 --> 01:33:54,293
Speaker 16: breed the chicks and bring the chicks up and then

1940
01:33:54,452 --> 01:33:57,333
Speaker 16: you get them all to the avatoire and then kill

1941
01:33:57,372 --> 01:33:59,973
Speaker 16: them on site and put them all in containers. But

1942
01:34:00,692 --> 01:34:02,812
Speaker 16: everyone spinks you kill them for the meat. It's not.

1943
01:34:02,893 --> 01:34:05,772
Speaker 16: The meat was the second product. It was for the fat,

1944
01:34:06,452 --> 01:34:09,412
Speaker 16: right where all the Yeah, fat's got all the goodness.

1945
01:34:09,412 --> 01:34:12,492
Speaker 16: It's really really good healing property, isn't it. And we

1946
01:34:12,572 --> 01:34:16,412
Speaker 16: used to send that down to Perth to get rendered

1947
01:34:16,853 --> 01:34:18,772
Speaker 16: to get the impurities taken out, and then it used

1948
01:34:18,772 --> 01:34:23,093
Speaker 16: to get sent to America to pharmaceutical companies to make

1949
01:34:23,173 --> 01:34:24,492
Speaker 16: up all pharmaceutical products.

1950
01:34:24,572 --> 01:34:27,372
Speaker 2: You know, what's it like? What's it like trying to

1951
01:34:27,412 --> 01:34:27,852
Speaker 2: herd em?

1952
01:34:27,893 --> 01:34:32,173
Speaker 16: You uh funny to say that your pins are all

1953
01:34:32,213 --> 01:34:34,213
Speaker 16: set up exactly like you do venison, so you have

1954
01:34:34,293 --> 01:34:37,173
Speaker 16: no corners and stuff. And I used to always bring

1955
01:34:37,812 --> 01:34:39,812
Speaker 16: kievy boys I had to work for me because they

1956
01:34:39,853 --> 01:34:42,173
Speaker 16: were good workers. And I was showing them all how

1957
01:34:42,213 --> 01:34:43,812
Speaker 16: to herd up one day and I said, this is

1958
01:34:43,812 --> 01:34:46,013
Speaker 16: how you come up nice and slowly. And then one

1959
01:34:46,013 --> 01:34:49,492
Speaker 16: of the ms turned around and kicked me right and

1960
01:34:49,893 --> 01:34:51,972
Speaker 16: love me to the ground. And one of the key

1961
01:34:52,013 --> 01:34:56,372
Speaker 16: re voices us and that how you do it? I know,

1962
01:34:56,452 --> 01:34:57,013
Speaker 16: we don't know that.

1963
01:34:57,372 --> 01:35:00,133
Speaker 2: Do you do anything with the feathers days now?

1964
01:35:00,333 --> 01:35:02,612
Speaker 16: Just plat with them? And we kept the skins and

1965
01:35:02,652 --> 01:35:05,293
Speaker 16: we used to take the legs skins off the skins

1966
01:35:05,293 --> 01:35:07,532
Speaker 16: we used to be we could use them for like

1967
01:35:08,053 --> 01:35:10,732
Speaker 16: really soft softly the use and for like gloves like

1968
01:35:10,812 --> 01:35:14,372
Speaker 16: golf clubs and in the legs. And then the meat

1969
01:35:14,452 --> 01:35:17,812
Speaker 16: we used to sell the restaurants. The meat's very very lean.

1970
01:35:17,853 --> 01:35:21,412
Speaker 16: It's like Bennison, very very lean now and it's not

1971
01:35:21,452 --> 01:35:23,213
Speaker 16: like when you're fat or kept fat and the cattle

1972
01:35:23,213 --> 01:35:26,253
Speaker 16: bee staw a sheet with a battle goes through the muscle.

1973
01:35:26,612 --> 01:35:28,812
Speaker 16: All the fat on an emu grows on the outside

1974
01:35:28,812 --> 01:35:30,333
Speaker 16: and it comes off like a stick in skin.

1975
01:35:30,612 --> 01:35:30,852
Speaker 2: Right?

1976
01:35:30,893 --> 01:35:33,053
Speaker 3: Who eats all the meats of the In terms of

1977
01:35:33,093 --> 01:35:35,093
Speaker 3: the market, is it mostly Australia.

1978
01:35:34,732 --> 01:35:39,372
Speaker 16: Or that was probably the biggest down for the company

1979
01:35:39,412 --> 01:35:41,372
Speaker 16: that I worked for. Probably why they went down this

1980
01:35:41,572 --> 01:35:47,093
Speaker 16: because they didn't have a good supply Chaine. All the

1981
01:35:47,133 --> 01:35:50,093
Speaker 16: restaurants and everything. They were saw more les concentrating. They've

1982
01:35:50,093 --> 01:35:51,892
Speaker 16: got more money for the oil and then they didn't

1983
01:35:51,933 --> 01:35:54,973
Speaker 16: really have that second degree market to follow onto all

1984
01:35:54,973 --> 01:35:57,333
Speaker 16: the meat actually run and sit up by a key.

1985
01:35:57,333 --> 01:36:00,372
Speaker 16: We've both called John John McLeod a really really nice fellow.

1986
01:36:00,412 --> 01:36:03,412
Speaker 16: He's probably the world's most knowledgeable person on EMUs in

1987
01:36:03,452 --> 01:36:03,812
Speaker 16: the world.

1988
01:36:04,093 --> 01:36:06,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there was a bit of emu farming in

1989
01:36:07,013 --> 01:36:08,492
Speaker 2: New Zealand, was there.

1990
01:36:09,133 --> 01:36:09,372
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1991
01:36:09,452 --> 01:36:10,852
Speaker 16: It was a bit funny here when I went to

1992
01:36:10,933 --> 01:36:12,612
Speaker 16: a couple of to you when I come home, people

1993
01:36:12,692 --> 01:36:16,293
Speaker 16: playing twenty thousand dollars a bird, you know, and we're

1994
01:36:16,333 --> 01:36:18,452
Speaker 16: accidentally running them over and the land cruises. You know,

1995
01:36:21,093 --> 01:36:24,053
Speaker 16: it's yeah, we got got really out of hand if

1996
01:36:24,053 --> 01:36:27,093
Speaker 16: they hadn't been done right, because I believe it or not,

1997
01:36:27,933 --> 01:36:32,732
Speaker 16: the emial oil, it's one hundred percent pure magic heal

1998
01:36:32,893 --> 01:36:35,692
Speaker 16: properties in it, right, so we're going to buy pure

1999
01:36:35,772 --> 01:36:37,932
Speaker 16: don't You can buy it. You can go with these

2000
01:36:37,973 --> 01:36:40,053
Speaker 16: markets and they'll sell it's got leavender or it and

2001
01:36:40,093 --> 01:36:43,213
Speaker 16: all that only by the pure stuff. It's it's they

2002
01:36:43,253 --> 01:36:46,093
Speaker 16: actually used it and the barley bombings for all the

2003
01:36:46,133 --> 01:36:48,772
Speaker 16: burn victims because they have a really good burns hospital

2004
01:36:48,812 --> 01:36:52,612
Speaker 16: in Western Australian path and they used emial oil was

2005
01:36:52,732 --> 01:36:55,293
Speaker 16: used on those people to help heal their burns. Its

2006
01:36:55,853 --> 01:36:56,972
Speaker 16: magic healing properties.

2007
01:36:57,053 --> 01:37:02,173
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, speaking of military there's you can't mention them

2008
01:37:02,293 --> 01:37:04,812
Speaker 2: is without mentioning the nineteen thirty two EMU wars. I

2009
01:37:04,893 --> 01:37:07,093
Speaker 2: think they come up about every two weeks on the show. Yeah,

2010
01:37:07,213 --> 01:37:10,333
Speaker 2: but yeah, when they delay with the Royal Australian Artillery

2011
01:37:10,412 --> 01:37:13,092
Speaker 2: to try and bring down the EMUs using the Lewis

2012
01:37:13,173 --> 01:37:17,012
Speaker 2: guns and you know the the the Australian Army lost

2013
01:37:17,053 --> 01:37:19,452
Speaker 2: that against the lost.

2014
01:37:20,412 --> 01:37:22,012
Speaker 7: When the running I'll.

2015
01:37:21,933 --> 01:37:24,612
Speaker 16: Chase them beside them and the land cruise are doing

2016
01:37:24,732 --> 01:37:25,892
Speaker 16: fifty five sixty.

2017
01:37:28,532 --> 01:37:31,492
Speaker 2: You're a brave man. Don't take on the all right, hey,

2018
01:37:31,572 --> 01:37:34,852
Speaker 2: thank you for you call Dave interesting stuff quick takes here.

2019
01:37:35,013 --> 01:37:37,133
Speaker 3: Getay, guys, love in your program. What is the brand

2020
01:37:37,253 --> 01:37:40,772
Speaker 3: name of Helen's Cheese and is available in the South Island?

2021
01:37:40,853 --> 01:37:45,412
Speaker 3: So Cleveland Buffalo, right, yeah, Cleveland Buffalo Company, Cleveden, Cleveden

2022
01:37:45,812 --> 01:37:49,333
Speaker 3: my bed and yes, if you go on their website,

2023
01:37:49,492 --> 01:37:52,253
Speaker 3: which is just Cleveden Buffalo dot co dot z, they've

2024
01:37:52,293 --> 01:37:55,692
Speaker 3: got their stockists and there are a few places in

2025
01:37:55,772 --> 01:37:58,533
Speaker 3: the South Island that stocks at Christos they'need in Queenstown,

2026
01:37:59,213 --> 01:38:00,092
Speaker 3: among a few others.

2027
01:38:00,372 --> 01:38:00,893
Speaker 5: So there you go.

2028
01:38:01,133 --> 01:38:03,412
Speaker 2: You can get you get the milk and get the cheese.

2029
01:38:03,452 --> 01:38:06,333
Speaker 2: You can get the yogurt. The mozzarella cheese looks blume

2030
01:38:06,372 --> 01:38:08,492
Speaker 2: and good and that they're mozarella. Yeah, yeah, oh.

2031
01:38:08,572 --> 01:38:10,973
Speaker 3: One hundred eighty ten eighty is the number called you

2032
01:38:11,173 --> 01:38:13,173
Speaker 3: farm an unusual animal. We'd love to hear from you.

2033
01:38:13,652 --> 01:38:15,333
Speaker 3: It is twenty ninety four.

2034
01:38:18,253 --> 01:38:21,852
Speaker 15: You's talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

2035
01:38:21,933 --> 01:38:25,532
Speaker 15: no trouble with a blue bubble. Former Auckland Council Building

2036
01:38:25,612 --> 01:38:29,253
Speaker 15: Inspector Nicholas Bright has been sentenced to eleven months home

2037
01:38:29,372 --> 01:38:33,652
Speaker 15: detention for accepting free home renovations and tens of thousands

2038
01:38:33,732 --> 01:38:38,053
Speaker 15: of dollars in bribes. National MP Andrew Bailey says he

2039
01:38:38,253 --> 01:38:41,772
Speaker 15: chose to stand down as Minister for acc and Commerce

2040
01:38:41,853 --> 01:38:44,972
Speaker 15: and Consumer Affairs after putting a hand on a staffer

2041
01:38:45,333 --> 01:38:48,812
Speaker 15: during a work discussion. He'll retain his aport Wye count

2042
01:38:48,933 --> 01:38:52,893
Speaker 15: of seat. The push for an independent Patient Safety Commissioner

2043
01:38:53,213 --> 01:38:56,492
Speaker 15: to prevent harm has taken another step, with the Health

2044
01:38:56,572 --> 01:39:00,252
Speaker 15: Consumer Advocacy Alliance presenting its case to a select committee.

2045
01:39:01,333 --> 01:39:04,213
Speaker 15: The Police Commissioner says compliance with a new gang law

2046
01:39:04,333 --> 01:39:07,452
Speaker 15: has been high in its first three months, with seventy

2047
01:39:07,492 --> 01:39:13,653
Speaker 15: six patches. New Zealand's first explosive detector dogs posted overseas

2048
01:39:13,772 --> 01:39:16,933
Speaker 15: have been recognized at the National Army Museum with the

2049
01:39:17,013 --> 01:39:21,532
Speaker 15: inaugural Animal Distinguished Service Award. Yardley and Chuck died in

2050
01:39:21,692 --> 01:39:26,772
Speaker 15: retirement in recent years. A private oasis inside he throws

2051
01:39:26,853 --> 01:39:31,253
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2052
01:39:31,293 --> 01:39:34,572
Speaker 15: Herald Premium. Now back to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams Well.

2053
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Speaker 3: Today we are talking to Julie from About Health about

2054
01:39:37,452 --> 01:39:41,732
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2055
01:39:41,853 --> 01:39:45,973
Speaker 3: twelve magnesium. Duly good afternoon, and how can these supplements

2056
01:39:46,133 --> 01:39:46,852
Speaker 3: help our health?

2057
01:39:47,973 --> 01:39:48,572
Speaker 19: Hi? Tyler?

2058
01:39:48,973 --> 01:39:51,532
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2059
01:39:51,652 --> 01:39:54,812
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2060
01:39:55,013 --> 01:39:57,692
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2061
01:39:57,772 --> 01:40:00,932
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2062
01:40:01,173 --> 01:40:03,612
Speaker 25: you know, some of those common ailments of aging, and

2063
01:40:03,732 --> 01:40:05,852
Speaker 25: it's got a real focus on brain health after it

2064
01:40:05,933 --> 01:40:08,492
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2065
01:40:08,572 --> 01:40:12,372
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2066
01:40:12,652 --> 01:40:15,692
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2067
01:40:15,973 --> 01:40:17,052
Speaker 25: and even great energy.

2068
01:40:17,253 --> 01:40:20,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, lots of great support for healthy aging. Now tell

2069
01:40:20,253 --> 01:40:22,892
Speaker 3: us about element twelve magnesium. How does that help?

2070
01:40:24,173 --> 01:40:26,732
Speaker 25: Yeah, magnesium is a great one and so good for

2071
01:40:26,853 --> 01:40:30,492
Speaker 25: things like healthy sleep and relaxation. It's also helpful for

2072
01:40:30,772 --> 01:40:33,852
Speaker 25: things like muscle cramps and twitches, heart health and well

2073
01:40:33,893 --> 01:40:34,812
Speaker 25: there's a big long list, but.

2074
01:40:34,812 --> 01:40:35,293
Speaker 11: It's a good one.

2075
01:40:35,532 --> 01:40:38,093
Speaker 3: Sounds really good. And what is your special for our

2076
01:40:38,133 --> 01:40:39,052
Speaker 3: listeners today, Julie?

2077
01:40:40,053 --> 01:40:42,772
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2078
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2079
01:40:45,772 --> 01:40:48,532
Speaker 25: the Lessers Oil Advance, the Resvue Ultimate, and the Element

2080
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Speaker 25: twelve magnesium. They are our top three selling products and

2081
01:40:52,333 --> 01:40:54,572
Speaker 25: we've got them in a value pack now. So all

2082
01:40:54,652 --> 01:40:57,372
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2083
01:40:57,492 --> 01:40:59,692
Speaker 25: Trio Bundle that gets you up to a three month

2084
01:40:59,732 --> 01:41:02,692
Speaker 25: supply of each of these great nutritional supplements, and you

2085
01:41:02,732 --> 01:41:04,732
Speaker 25: get some savings when you buy them in the bundle too.

2086
01:41:05,412 --> 01:41:07,412
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2087
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2088
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Speaker 25: to sound a little way of saying thank you. The

2089
01:41:12,013 --> 01:41:15,053
Speaker 25: number to call eight hundred triple nine three nine, or

2090
01:41:15,133 --> 01:41:17,452
Speaker 25: you can order it the website about house dot co

2091
01:41:17,572 --> 01:41:20,652
Speaker 25: dot in z. That's the Golden Trio Bundle. As always,

2092
01:41:20,812 --> 01:41:22,732
Speaker 25: make sure that you read those labels and take only

2093
01:41:22,732 --> 01:41:23,293
Speaker 25: as directed.

2094
01:41:23,652 --> 01:41:25,052
Speaker 2: About half easy?

2095
01:41:25,173 --> 01:41:25,293
Speaker 14: Is that?

2096
01:41:25,452 --> 01:41:27,932
Speaker 2: Thanks, Julie, Matt and Tayler.

2097
01:41:28,572 --> 01:41:30,852
Speaker 3: All right, so we aren't talking about unusual animals that

2098
01:41:30,973 --> 01:41:33,452
Speaker 3: you do farm currently or have farmed in the past.

2099
01:41:33,532 --> 01:41:36,333
Speaker 3: Some great texts coming through. If you want to flick

2100
01:41:36,333 --> 01:41:38,452
Speaker 3: through a texture more than welcome nine to nine to

2101
01:41:38,612 --> 01:41:42,293
Speaker 3: and we'll get to some of those very shortly. A

2102
01:41:43,732 --> 01:41:45,812
Speaker 3: lot of texts coming through about the m use.

2103
01:41:45,973 --> 01:41:50,933
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, so I look and there's people farming ostriches.

2104
01:41:51,492 --> 01:41:54,333
Speaker 2: What type of buffalo these bison like in the Canadian

2105
01:41:54,372 --> 01:41:57,133
Speaker 2: planes water buffalo as found in India. We were talking

2106
01:41:57,133 --> 01:42:01,093
Speaker 2: about the buffalo. Bison are very different from buffalo, aren't they. Well,

2107
01:42:01,093 --> 01:42:03,212
Speaker 2: I don't know, but by some of the huge.

2108
01:42:03,053 --> 01:42:06,133
Speaker 3: Ones with the hump on their shoulder, just because these

2109
01:42:06,213 --> 01:42:08,293
Speaker 3: ones are clearly water buffalo, right, if they love, they

2110
01:42:08,412 --> 01:42:11,452
Speaker 3: need a bit of water. Hold on, I didn't think

2111
01:42:11,492 --> 01:42:13,293
Speaker 3: we'd keep getting deep into bison yet.

2112
01:42:13,612 --> 01:42:17,412
Speaker 2: But bison and buffalo are different animeralds, though the terms

2113
01:42:17,452 --> 01:42:20,532
Speaker 2: are often used interchangeably. They are both large, horned, ox

2114
01:42:20,652 --> 01:42:25,253
Speaker 2: like animals. The most obvious difference is the large hump

2115
01:42:25,333 --> 01:42:27,213
Speaker 2: on the back of the bison. Buffalo do not have

2116
01:42:27,253 --> 01:42:30,973
Speaker 2: a hump. Bison have a massive head, but buffalo have

2117
01:42:31,053 --> 01:42:33,572
Speaker 2: a head that is smaller and more cow like. Buffalo

2118
01:42:33,772 --> 01:42:35,732
Speaker 2: live in generally warmer climates than by.

2119
01:42:35,652 --> 01:42:37,893
Speaker 3: Sere you go, don't see, you never learn anything on

2120
01:42:38,013 --> 01:42:38,612
Speaker 3: this program.

2121
01:42:39,213 --> 01:42:39,852
Speaker 2: Julie, how are you?

2122
01:42:41,213 --> 01:42:44,333
Speaker 14: I'm very good and good afternoon. In a great subject.

2123
01:42:44,492 --> 01:42:47,372
Speaker 14: I'll tell you that bison is from America, and that's

2124
01:42:47,412 --> 01:42:53,013
Speaker 14: what the Indians used to shoot they're huge. We did

2125
01:42:53,093 --> 01:42:56,173
Speaker 14: have them here. We did have a peer in Wellington

2126
01:42:57,333 --> 01:43:00,372
Speaker 14: Zoo many many years ago, and I think they went

2127
01:43:00,492 --> 01:43:02,852
Speaker 14: up to the middle of the North Island. But we

2128
01:43:03,013 --> 01:43:07,293
Speaker 14: had Texas throng horns. In nineteen ninety eight we took

2129
01:43:07,372 --> 01:43:10,132
Speaker 14: over a one of the biggest herds in the country.

2130
01:43:11,572 --> 01:43:15,892
Speaker 14: There was eighty five pure bred females and they came

2131
01:43:16,013 --> 01:43:19,732
Speaker 14: down in the truck, quite quite full trucks.

2132
01:43:20,492 --> 01:43:21,292
Speaker 7: It was quite.

2133
01:43:21,093 --> 01:43:23,652
Speaker 14: Amusing to see them when they came up the hill

2134
01:43:23,772 --> 01:43:27,973
Speaker 14: because it was like the horns all sticking out of

2135
01:43:28,053 --> 01:43:31,652
Speaker 14: the top of the truck. And some of them were

2136
01:43:31,812 --> 01:43:37,413
Speaker 14: quite huge. Those kettles came down and only one required

2137
01:43:38,333 --> 01:43:41,133
Speaker 14: any kind of attention about the size of a band aid.

2138
01:43:41,772 --> 01:43:47,572
Speaker 14: They were unusual kettle, their feral. We had them until

2139
01:43:47,732 --> 01:43:53,333
Speaker 14: just a few years ago and we had to I'm

2140
01:43:53,372 --> 01:43:57,893
Speaker 14: getting myself back. I had him felt for just a

2141
01:43:57,973 --> 01:44:01,652
Speaker 14: few years ago. But the herd got split up and

2142
01:44:02,412 --> 01:44:06,652
Speaker 14: some went to Wanganyat and some went to Huntley. So

2143
01:44:08,732 --> 01:44:15,492
Speaker 14: just turning around some sorry about that. Yeah, the calves

2144
01:44:15,532 --> 01:44:20,053
Speaker 14: were born. The calves were born at twenty one ki

2145
01:44:20,173 --> 01:44:24,013
Speaker 14: lows thereabouts. They just sat down and popped them out

2146
01:44:24,173 --> 01:44:27,612
Speaker 14: and within within twenty minutes or so they were up

2147
01:44:27,652 --> 01:44:34,333
Speaker 14: and running. They were very very unusual cattle. We've got

2148
01:44:34,412 --> 01:44:37,333
Speaker 14: too old to have them now. They were got to

2149
01:44:37,732 --> 01:44:42,013
Speaker 14: be a little bit fit, but we were able to

2150
01:44:42,093 --> 01:44:45,532
Speaker 14: work them in the cattle facilities that we had. We

2151
01:44:45,612 --> 01:44:48,812
Speaker 14: had one steer who stood at sixteen two hands high.

2152
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Speaker 14: I've got the photos of him. He was called Marmalade

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01:44:53,772 --> 01:44:57,732
Speaker 14: because of the color. He used to just tilt his

2154
01:44:57,853 --> 01:45:00,612
Speaker 14: head and go up the cattle rays. I've got a

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01:45:00,652 --> 01:45:04,293
Speaker 14: photo of him standing on the way on our way bridge,

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01:45:05,652 --> 01:45:09,613
Speaker 14: well above the gate. Amazing cattle.

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01:45:10,853 --> 01:45:11,492
Speaker 11: They used to have.

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01:45:13,612 --> 01:45:16,172
Speaker 14: They used to have like a crash system at carving.

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01:45:17,133 --> 01:45:20,973
Speaker 14: The cows would had their calves and some would go

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01:45:21,053 --> 01:45:25,133
Speaker 14: away and graze and others would stay and look after

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01:45:25,293 --> 01:45:28,253
Speaker 14: the calves. One of those cows let out any kind

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01:45:28,253 --> 01:45:31,052
Speaker 14: of blur, the whole herd would arrive.

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01:45:31,572 --> 01:45:35,333
Speaker 2: When Julia, do you have to what about the you know,

2164
01:45:35,492 --> 01:45:37,652
Speaker 2: taking into the slaughterhouse the abatire, do you have to

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01:45:37,732 --> 01:45:40,972
Speaker 2: give a heads up? Is a different a different setup,

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01:45:41,652 --> 01:45:41,812
Speaker 2: you know.

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01:45:43,173 --> 01:45:46,492
Speaker 14: There was one question you said about some cattle with

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01:45:46,612 --> 01:45:51,532
Speaker 14: wrong horns. A lot of people confuse Scottish Highland cattle

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01:45:52,293 --> 01:45:59,452
Speaker 14: as longhorns. They're hairy. The works were not taking them

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01:45:59,492 --> 01:46:03,812
Speaker 14: for a while they because of the hair. But with

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01:46:04,053 --> 01:46:08,812
Speaker 14: the works for us, we're in fielding, so did give

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01:46:08,933 --> 01:46:13,452
Speaker 14: us an exemption at the time because Nate we couldn't

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01:46:13,732 --> 01:46:17,652
Speaker 14: put NATE tags on them because there it was too

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01:46:17,772 --> 01:46:19,612
Speaker 14: dangerous to actually NATE tag them.

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01:46:19,732 --> 01:46:21,973
Speaker 3: But so sorry to jump in there, Julie. What are

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01:46:22,013 --> 01:46:22,452
Speaker 3: those tags?

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01:46:22,492 --> 01:46:24,333
Speaker 5: What do they do? Nate?

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01:46:24,692 --> 01:46:30,093
Speaker 14: NATE is an organization that government government are orchestrated to

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01:46:30,293 --> 01:46:34,932
Speaker 14: control TV in the country. Right, so every cattle bee

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01:46:35,293 --> 01:46:38,173
Speaker 14: in the country and dea have to have a little

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01:46:38,213 --> 01:46:42,253
Speaker 14: white tag in their ear with an identification number, and

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01:46:44,333 --> 01:46:48,213
Speaker 14: so every we put all all farmers who farm those

2183
01:46:48,253 --> 01:46:51,772
Speaker 14: of cattle and dea have to be registered with NATE.

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01:46:52,293 --> 01:46:56,013
Speaker 14: So if you if I sold you some cattle, you

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01:46:56,133 --> 01:46:59,133
Speaker 14: would have to be NATE registered and I would have

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01:46:59,372 --> 01:47:03,293
Speaker 14: to supply NATE with your details so they could be

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01:47:03,893 --> 01:47:05,493
Speaker 14: attached to your farm.

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01:47:07,253 --> 01:47:08,612
Speaker 2: The complices.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, just another bureau crating Yeah.

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01:47:14,812 --> 01:47:17,772
Speaker 2: Oh, Julie, think Think Think you for your insights into

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01:47:17,853 --> 01:47:21,532
Speaker 2: longhorn farming. Yeah, long horn cattle. I love that. Hey, guys,

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01:47:21,572 --> 01:47:23,812
Speaker 2: love your problem. What's the name of the Helen's cheese

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01:47:23,853 --> 01:47:25,892
Speaker 2: and is it available in the South Island or did

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01:47:25,933 --> 01:47:27,253
Speaker 2: you already read that one? Now you already said what

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01:47:27,293 --> 01:47:27,732
Speaker 2: it is, wasn't it?

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01:47:27,853 --> 01:47:29,133
Speaker 3: Well you can give her another shout out though.

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01:47:29,213 --> 01:47:29,372
Speaker 17: Yeah.

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01:47:29,893 --> 01:47:35,412
Speaker 3: Cleveden Buffalo Company, Cleveden, Clevedon Cheapers, Cleveden Buffalo Company. You

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01:47:35,492 --> 01:47:37,452
Speaker 3: can check them out online and they've got a list

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01:47:37,492 --> 01:47:39,253
Speaker 3: of stockers there and yes, they're available in the South

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01:47:39,293 --> 01:47:39,572
Speaker 3: at the.

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01:47:39,612 --> 01:47:42,972
Speaker 2: Texas is I've been eating the Cleveden mozzarella for many years.

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01:47:43,093 --> 01:47:47,652
Speaker 2: The product is insational. And this person says, bison think

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01:47:47,772 --> 01:47:51,213
Speaker 2: dancers with Wills, Buffalo, think crocodile day, Dundee, that's from

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01:47:51,253 --> 01:47:53,012
Speaker 2: ann oh Ye, that's nice way to play. And Hamilton

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01:47:53,133 --> 01:47:55,732
Speaker 2: Zoo had a herd of bison. They are huge. Can't

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01:47:55,772 --> 01:47:58,452
Speaker 2: help but think about barbecue and how tasty they would

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01:47:58,452 --> 01:48:02,013
Speaker 2: have been to eat them. Yeah, I mean they've been

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01:48:02,053 --> 01:48:04,372
Speaker 2: in Hamilton Zoo. But I don't think anyone's as anyone

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01:48:04,372 --> 01:48:06,612
Speaker 2: actually try to find farm bison in New Zealand. I

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01:48:06,652 --> 01:48:08,972
Speaker 2: think you need I think I think you need some big,

2212
01:48:09,492 --> 01:48:12,972
Speaker 2: big space. It's big wide oven Berg Sky country for bison,

2213
01:48:13,013 --> 01:48:13,892
Speaker 2: don't you big cattle?

2214
01:48:13,973 --> 01:48:14,133
Speaker 5: Yeah?

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01:48:14,173 --> 01:48:15,652
Speaker 3: But if that is you love to hear from you

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01:48:15,732 --> 01:48:17,652
Speaker 3: on I wait undred and eighty ten eighty It is

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01:48:17,772 --> 01:48:18,333
Speaker 3: seventeen to.

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Speaker 1: Four Mattith Tyler Adams with you as your afternoon rolls

2219
01:48:23,173 --> 01:48:26,972
Speaker 1: on Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety

2220
01:48:27,133 --> 01:48:30,253
Speaker 1: attention to detail and a commitment to comfort news talks.

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01:48:30,293 --> 01:48:33,892
Speaker 3: They'd be good afternoon. We're talking to people who farm

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01:48:34,133 --> 01:48:37,572
Speaker 3: unusual animals. Just a quick text here, get a guys

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01:48:37,732 --> 01:48:42,452
Speaker 3: loving the program. We run Soggy Bottom Holding Farm where

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01:48:42,492 --> 01:48:46,173
Speaker 3: we keep mainly Tamworth and Wessex saddleback pigs which are

2225
01:48:46,213 --> 01:48:50,692
Speaker 3: heritage British outdoor breeds, very very tasty pigs and lovely

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01:48:50,772 --> 01:48:51,133
Speaker 3: to boot.

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01:48:51,572 --> 01:48:54,253
Speaker 2: Yeah and look someone here, I was saying, are we

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01:48:54,692 --> 01:48:57,412
Speaker 2: are we farming bison in New Zealand? In zed Bison

2229
01:48:57,492 --> 01:48:59,333
Speaker 2: Limited and Canterbury are farming bison?

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01:48:59,532 --> 01:48:59,692
Speaker 26: Oh?

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01:49:00,093 --> 01:49:01,092
Speaker 2: Shows what I bloody?

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01:49:01,173 --> 01:49:01,213
Speaker 14: No?

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01:49:01,333 --> 01:49:03,452
Speaker 2: Doesn't it love to buy those people? Yeah?

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01:49:07,093 --> 01:49:09,372
Speaker 3: Some great techs coming through a few more of those

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01:49:09,492 --> 01:49:13,492
Speaker 3: very shortly, NASU, how are you hey?

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01:49:13,772 --> 01:49:14,052
Speaker 22: Tyler?

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01:49:14,133 --> 01:49:15,133
Speaker 5: How are you good?

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01:49:15,612 --> 01:49:15,772
Speaker 16: Now?

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01:49:15,853 --> 01:49:18,173
Speaker 2: You you've got a buffalo story for us?

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Speaker 22: Yes, yes I have. When I was a toddler in

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01:49:21,692 --> 01:49:29,333
Speaker 22: Gujrat in India, my mother's uncle farm the buffaloes and

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01:49:29,532 --> 01:49:33,053
Speaker 22: brought up an entire generation on a buffalo milk, and

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01:49:33,572 --> 01:49:36,932
Speaker 22: we as kids benefited immensely because we used to get

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01:49:36,933 --> 01:49:41,612
Speaker 22: a free milk every day. And interesting part of that

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01:49:42,013 --> 01:49:44,852
Speaker 22: was that bring up the entire generation on the buffalo

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01:49:44,973 --> 01:49:49,173
Speaker 22: milk and making churning the milk so get the butter

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01:49:49,293 --> 01:49:50,933
Speaker 22: as well, making gie out of it.

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01:49:51,452 --> 01:49:52,213
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yes.

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01:49:54,572 --> 01:49:59,053
Speaker 22: And the another interesting fact was that there is a

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01:49:59,293 --> 01:50:03,772
Speaker 22: ritual in our Hindu culture where girls receive a gift

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01:50:03,973 --> 01:50:08,053
Speaker 22: from the family side when somebody is born, and that

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01:50:08,253 --> 01:50:14,892
Speaker 22: was me. So my grandfather or my mother's uncle gave

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01:50:15,053 --> 01:50:18,172
Speaker 22: her because there wasn't much money about a milking buffalo,

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01:50:19,652 --> 01:50:22,772
Speaker 22: and the trait with the buffalo's as Helen point out,

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01:50:22,812 --> 01:50:31,172
Speaker 22: they are quite wild things. And when my father's resident

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01:50:31,492 --> 01:50:33,612
Speaker 22: is only about three hundred meters away from my mother's

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01:50:33,652 --> 01:50:36,772
Speaker 22: residents the same village, So we took the buffalo to

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01:50:36,893 --> 01:50:40,652
Speaker 22: my father's home and the jolly thing wouldn't let it.

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01:50:40,933 --> 01:50:43,812
Speaker 22: And we had a servant who used to regularly milk

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01:50:43,893 --> 01:50:48,532
Speaker 22: that same buffalo at my mother's uncle's place, and we

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01:50:48,652 --> 01:50:52,492
Speaker 22: had another servant at my father's place, but she wouldn't

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01:50:52,532 --> 01:50:57,333
Speaker 22: let the servant milk a buffalo at my father's side

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01:50:59,853 --> 01:51:02,253
Speaker 22: because they're just so wild. As soon as you start

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01:51:02,293 --> 01:51:05,093
Speaker 22: milking them with hand, they just sort of kick you out,

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01:51:06,133 --> 01:51:10,133
Speaker 22: You knock you out of circulation. Very careful. Yeah, and

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01:51:11,253 --> 01:51:15,772
Speaker 22: so that's what happened, and so to and she stopped

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01:51:15,772 --> 01:51:20,213
Speaker 22: giving milk. Then we had to bring the servant from

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01:51:20,333 --> 01:51:26,812
Speaker 22: my mum's uncle's place every morning and gently sort of

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01:51:27,452 --> 01:51:31,093
Speaker 22: tie her over. So the like four teeths on the

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01:51:31,333 --> 01:51:34,452
Speaker 22: buffaloes they would milk two or three and the others

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01:51:34,853 --> 01:51:37,293
Speaker 22: with one and just gently tightened like it took that

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01:51:37,372 --> 01:51:38,532
Speaker 22: a month, the whole operation.

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01:51:40,893 --> 01:51:44,133
Speaker 2: That is fascinating. So if you were brought up on

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01:51:44,253 --> 01:51:48,852
Speaker 2: buffalo milk, which is apparently very very creamy and pretty

2275
01:51:48,893 --> 01:51:51,692
Speaker 2: spectacular milk, what is it like to then go to

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01:51:52,293 --> 01:51:54,612
Speaker 2: Because for us to go to buffalo milk is interesting.

2277
01:51:54,652 --> 01:51:58,973
Speaker 2: We're going, oh, we're trying something weird and different. So

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01:51:59,093 --> 01:52:02,012
Speaker 2: what's it like to go from buffalo milk to cow milk?

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01:52:02,893 --> 01:52:08,732
Speaker 22: No comparison, no comparison. I mean, it's so rich and

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01:52:10,452 --> 01:52:13,572
Speaker 22: the taste is quite different as well. And the other

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01:52:13,692 --> 01:52:16,893
Speaker 22: interesting is the buffaloes don't give too much milk. Like

2282
01:52:17,412 --> 01:52:22,293
Speaker 22: my mom's uncle s place, they would give probably about

2283
01:52:22,372 --> 01:52:24,692
Speaker 22: three liters of milk. If you're lucky three to four liters?

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01:52:25,412 --> 01:52:28,053
Speaker 3: What would they what does they compare to a cow?

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01:52:28,213 --> 01:52:31,692
Speaker 22: Just to put that in context, Well, in a good

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01:52:31,772 --> 01:52:35,133
Speaker 22: season or in a proper season in New Zealand, a

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01:52:35,772 --> 01:52:39,293
Speaker 22: cow could give about twenty to twenty five liters of milk, right, Okay,

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01:52:40,093 --> 01:52:41,012
Speaker 22: it's a big difference.

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01:52:41,173 --> 01:52:43,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, and the.

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Speaker 22: Biggest the best quality of people from all over Gujarat

2291
01:52:47,333 --> 01:52:50,012
Speaker 22: would go to. There's a place in Gujarat called Masana.

2292
01:52:50,173 --> 01:52:57,412
Speaker 22: It's a village very famous for buffaloes, milking buffaloes, and

2293
01:52:57,732 --> 01:53:00,772
Speaker 22: they command a premium price when you buy it from there,

2294
01:53:01,372 --> 01:53:05,293
Speaker 22: and they are the best quality men. Buffalo is available there.

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01:53:05,692 --> 01:53:07,893
Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you so much for sharing that

2296
01:53:07,973 --> 01:53:11,173
Speaker 2: with us. Now, that's really interesting, the whole buffalo thing.

2297
01:53:11,253 --> 01:53:13,692
Speaker 2: That's the whole world of buffalo has opened up to me.

2298
01:53:14,213 --> 01:53:17,532
Speaker 2: I'm so naive about buffalo and bison. Seems like this

2299
01:53:17,652 --> 01:53:19,532
Speaker 2: bison everywhere in New Zealand. I'm looking at a bunch

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01:53:19,572 --> 01:53:20,852
Speaker 2: of bison near Topoor.

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01:53:21,173 --> 01:53:25,132
Speaker 3: Yeah, some near Blenham apparently own a malutu near Blenham.

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01:53:25,173 --> 01:53:26,052
Speaker 3: There's bison farms.

2303
01:53:26,213 --> 01:53:28,852
Speaker 2: There's bison everywhere where.

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01:53:28,853 --> 01:53:30,892
Speaker 3: Are they hiding all these bison I've never seen a bison.

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01:53:30,933 --> 01:53:33,133
Speaker 2: We're overrun by bison. They're basically a piss now. They're

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01:53:33,173 --> 01:53:36,093
Speaker 2: like the wallabies. There's bison everywhere. So boy, I'll tell

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01:53:36,133 --> 01:53:38,093
Speaker 2: you what if you're if you're running bison, you have

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01:53:38,173 --> 01:53:40,412
Speaker 2: to have some berg fences. Looking at this picture, certainly

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01:53:40,492 --> 01:53:41,093
Speaker 2: do right?

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01:53:41,173 --> 01:53:42,972
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is and number

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01:53:42,973 --> 01:53:43,213
Speaker 3: to call.

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01:53:43,333 --> 01:53:45,852
Speaker 2: Take a few more calls before we wrap this up.

2313
01:53:45,893 --> 01:53:47,093
Speaker 2: It is nine to four.

2314
01:53:48,173 --> 01:53:51,532
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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01:53:51,893 --> 01:53:52,852
Speaker 1: everything in between.

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01:53:53,173 --> 01:53:54,852
Speaker 7: Matt and Taylor Afternoons with.

2317
01:53:54,973 --> 01:53:58,452
Speaker 1: The Volvo XC ninety attention to detail and a commitment

2318
01:53:58,532 --> 01:53:58,972
Speaker 1: to comfort.

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01:53:59,093 --> 01:54:01,892
Speaker 7: News Dogs EDB on News.

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01:54:01,732 --> 01:54:06,372
Speaker 3: Dogs EDB, Good afternoon, we're talking about raising and breeding

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01:54:06,492 --> 01:54:07,492
Speaker 3: unusual animals.

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01:54:07,612 --> 01:54:08,173
Speaker 2: Get a bin.

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01:54:09,133 --> 01:54:12,492
Speaker 6: Oh hi, guys, thanks for technicoll A bit nervous.

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01:54:12,812 --> 01:54:17,333
Speaker 4: So anyway, back in my mid twenties, back into nineteen

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01:54:17,412 --> 01:54:21,533
Speaker 4: ninety six, I used to raise tarantulas in California.

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01:54:22,812 --> 01:54:24,492
Speaker 3: And how well, first, i've how did you get into

2327
01:54:24,612 --> 01:54:25,653
Speaker 3: raising tarantulas?

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01:54:26,492 --> 01:54:28,852
Speaker 4: Well, well, living over there, I went to one of

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01:54:28,893 --> 01:54:31,253
Speaker 4: the pet shops in California where you can just buy anything,

2330
01:54:32,013 --> 01:54:34,213
Speaker 4: you know, when it comes to exotic pets, and so

2331
01:54:34,413 --> 01:54:40,053
Speaker 4: I bought this young adult tarantula and took it back

2332
01:54:40,093 --> 01:54:42,132
Speaker 4: to the shop and they found out it's a female

2333
01:54:42,173 --> 01:54:45,253
Speaker 4: because it's hard to sex the spider until they get

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01:54:45,293 --> 01:54:47,533
Speaker 4: a bit older. And then they were like, this is

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01:54:47,573 --> 01:54:50,053
Speaker 4: a female. So I thought, oh, this is amazing and that,

2336
01:54:50,293 --> 01:54:53,493
Speaker 4: and then I met another person that's in the hobby

2337
01:54:53,613 --> 01:54:56,812
Speaker 4: that had a male, and then we started to pair

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01:54:56,893 --> 01:54:58,093
Speaker 4: the spiders together.

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01:54:58,013 --> 01:55:03,852
Speaker 26: And and breed them and what so you bred them

2340
01:55:04,812 --> 01:55:09,653
Speaker 26: for sale, No, I wanted to breathe them because it

2341
01:55:09,853 --> 01:55:13,613
Speaker 26: was at the time it was the red knee trensula

2342
01:55:13,653 --> 01:55:15,173
Speaker 26: from Exco was something that was.

2343
01:55:15,253 --> 01:55:18,772
Speaker 4: Quite a delicacy over there, so they were hard to find.

2344
01:55:18,973 --> 01:55:21,493
Speaker 4: So when I found that out, I thought, let's try

2345
01:55:21,533 --> 01:55:25,453
Speaker 4: and breed these and get that population going. And you know,

2346
01:55:25,573 --> 01:55:28,213
Speaker 4: it was quite fascinating trying to get the right temperature right,

2347
01:55:28,693 --> 01:55:31,213
Speaker 4: trying to feed up the female so she's nice and

2348
01:55:31,333 --> 01:55:34,573
Speaker 4: plump and fat for lack of a better term, because

2349
01:55:34,613 --> 01:55:36,653
Speaker 4: you know, if you've got a skinny female spider that's

2350
01:55:36,693 --> 01:55:38,932
Speaker 4: ready to make she will eat the male. So that's

2351
01:55:39,013 --> 01:55:42,972
Speaker 4: misconception in the wild. Yes, the females will probably eat

2352
01:55:43,013 --> 01:55:48,573
Speaker 4: the male after conceptric after mating, but if you're raising

2353
01:55:48,693 --> 01:55:51,693
Speaker 4: them yourself, and you get that female knife and plant

2354
01:55:51,772 --> 01:55:55,772
Speaker 4: and healthy and fed, and then introduce a male, they

2355
01:55:55,812 --> 01:55:58,093
Speaker 4: will get together and do that and you end up

2356
01:55:58,133 --> 01:56:00,892
Speaker 4: with this whole bunch of slings. You know, we're talking,

2357
01:56:01,493 --> 01:56:06,213
Speaker 4: you know, sixty seventy eighty little spider swings in.

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01:56:06,293 --> 01:56:06,973
Speaker 2: Her web, you know.

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01:56:07,653 --> 01:56:09,533
Speaker 4: And then I would just I wouldn't sell us.

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01:56:09,573 --> 01:56:11,293
Speaker 6: I would just get them back to the pittil and

2361
01:56:11,333 --> 01:56:12,013
Speaker 6: they would move that.

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01:56:12,093 --> 01:56:14,812
Speaker 3: On being fascinating. But we're out of time, so sorry,

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01:56:14,853 --> 01:56:15,653
Speaker 3: but thanks very much.

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01:56:15,733 --> 01:56:16,453
Speaker 18: No, no, it's all good.

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01:56:16,573 --> 01:56:16,852
Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: See you tomorrow.

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