1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:13,067 Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB Come into. 3 00:00:12,987 --> 00:00:15,227 Speaker 2: Your Life from Emerson's Brewery and Dunedin on the Dad 4 00:00:15,307 --> 00:00:17,467 Speaker 2: the first All Blacks test of the year. Always amazing. 5 00:00:17,467 --> 00:00:21,307 Speaker 2: Who you run into eighty three Test? All Black Andrew Orhio? Mate? Mate? Yeah, 6 00:00:21,467 --> 00:00:23,867 Speaker 2: very well, thank you mate, Good to see you in 7 00:00:23,907 --> 00:00:26,267 Speaker 2: amongst the punters here and some This wouldn't have been 8 00:00:26,307 --> 00:00:28,787 Speaker 2: your first trip to Emerson's I wouldn't imagine. 9 00:00:28,507 --> 00:00:30,547 Speaker 3: No, But it's quite a handy sport, doesn't it to 10 00:00:30,587 --> 00:00:32,707 Speaker 3: go a few beers here and stumble down on the rugby. 11 00:00:32,707 --> 00:00:34,507 Speaker 4: So it's perfect, absolutely perfect. 12 00:00:34,587 --> 00:00:35,787 Speaker 2: What are you up to these days? Mate? 13 00:00:36,267 --> 00:00:38,347 Speaker 3: Just back home running the farm. So I took over 14 00:00:38,387 --> 00:00:41,787 Speaker 3: the farm ten years ago or something. So last year 15 00:00:41,867 --> 00:00:44,027 Speaker 3: is pretty tough forinsra strikes and prices and this year 16 00:00:44,067 --> 00:00:46,587 Speaker 3: things are looking pretty good. So farm is good and 17 00:00:46,627 --> 00:00:48,307 Speaker 3: fun and just away from it down here watch a 18 00:00:48,307 --> 00:00:50,067 Speaker 3: bit of foody and a catch up with a few 19 00:00:50,067 --> 00:00:51,107 Speaker 3: people over the weekend. 20 00:00:51,547 --> 00:00:54,507 Speaker 2: How far away from from central Dunedin is your farm? 21 00:00:55,467 --> 00:00:58,667 Speaker 3: Probably two hours in the car okay, yeah, if you 22 00:00:58,707 --> 00:01:01,627 Speaker 3: don't have any stops do you? 23 00:01:01,907 --> 00:01:01,987 Speaker 1: So? 24 00:01:02,067 --> 00:01:04,267 Speaker 2: What is your what is you You obviously talked about 25 00:01:04,427 --> 00:01:08,187 Speaker 2: watching rugby these days. Do you have any more official involvement? Uh? 26 00:01:08,267 --> 00:01:09,867 Speaker 4: Not really a help out siege. 27 00:01:09,947 --> 00:01:12,627 Speaker 3: The Targo team were a couple of mates and I 28 00:01:12,747 --> 00:01:14,627 Speaker 3: coached set for the Top Cup which we had to 29 00:01:14,627 --> 00:01:16,707 Speaker 3: win this year on Alex It was pretty good and 30 00:01:17,387 --> 00:01:19,907 Speaker 3: to see how about the young fellow and has unopen 31 00:01:19,947 --> 00:01:24,187 Speaker 3: grade TV here and Tonedin. He's twelve, so he's been 32 00:01:24,187 --> 00:01:26,147 Speaker 3: around and seen us here Jordy Beart this morning, so 33 00:01:26,147 --> 00:01:29,227 Speaker 3: he's pumped about that and I felt like a little 34 00:01:29,227 --> 00:01:31,307 Speaker 3: group at the hotel. But they're sweet, so he's right 35 00:01:31,387 --> 00:01:31,627 Speaker 3: into it. 36 00:01:32,147 --> 00:01:32,547 Speaker 4: I love it. 37 00:01:32,667 --> 00:01:34,507 Speaker 2: So what's Andrew or the rugby coach? 38 00:01:34,667 --> 00:01:34,747 Speaker 3: Like? 39 00:01:35,027 --> 00:01:38,427 Speaker 2: Are you you know what? What's what's your coaching style? 40 00:01:38,827 --> 00:01:40,027 Speaker 4: Uh? 41 00:01:40,427 --> 00:01:42,387 Speaker 3: Just pretty much I rolled us off the cuff really, 42 00:01:43,787 --> 00:01:45,107 Speaker 3: no videos or anything like that. 43 00:01:45,187 --> 00:01:46,147 Speaker 4: Just get out there. 44 00:01:45,987 --> 00:01:48,587 Speaker 3: And enjoy it and if I can get the nine 45 00:01:48,667 --> 00:01:50,547 Speaker 3: ten and the ball through to the wing, I've had 46 00:01:50,547 --> 00:01:51,187 Speaker 3: a good day. 47 00:01:52,347 --> 00:01:54,747 Speaker 2: Does your boy do they have positions at twelve? Like 48 00:01:54,787 --> 00:01:55,907 Speaker 2: will he be a front run? 49 00:01:58,107 --> 00:01:58,307 Speaker 1: Yeah? 50 00:01:58,307 --> 00:02:00,147 Speaker 3: He's He's keen on all the things that are hard 51 00:02:00,147 --> 00:02:02,467 Speaker 3: to coach. He loves tackling and getting into the turnovers 52 00:02:02,467 --> 00:02:04,387 Speaker 3: and that stuff and if it's rain. 53 00:02:04,347 --> 00:02:06,347 Speaker 4: Yet, he's disappointing. So he's really passionate about it. 54 00:02:06,347 --> 00:02:09,067 Speaker 3: But as long as he enjoys it, his little sisters 55 00:02:09,107 --> 00:02:11,507 Speaker 3: comes along and tags on as well, so it's it 56 00:02:11,587 --> 00:02:13,027 Speaker 3: started to look more and more like rugby. 57 00:02:13,147 --> 00:02:15,947 Speaker 2: Love it, love it. I think your provincial day boobers 58 00:02:15,987 --> 00:02:17,427 Speaker 2: for Otago, wasn't it ninety eight? 59 00:02:17,547 --> 00:02:19,827 Speaker 3: Yes, back in ninety eight when I think I played 60 00:02:19,827 --> 00:02:21,547 Speaker 3: the start of the only game he lost to Waikato 61 00:02:21,627 --> 00:02:21,947 Speaker 3: that year. 62 00:02:21,987 --> 00:02:23,547 Speaker 4: But now that was great. 63 00:02:23,587 --> 00:02:26,307 Speaker 3: We got there in a very semi professional one the 64 00:02:26,387 --> 00:02:27,627 Speaker 3: NBC that year, so it was sponsible. 65 00:02:27,707 --> 00:02:29,707 Speaker 2: Yeah, we just had Tane Randall on. He shit exactly that. 66 00:02:29,787 --> 00:02:32,107 Speaker 2: I think he was captain that year. That it was 67 00:02:32,627 --> 00:02:34,867 Speaker 2: well super rugby had been there for a couple of 68 00:02:34,907 --> 00:02:37,947 Speaker 2: three years, but it was semi professional when it first started. 69 00:02:38,227 --> 00:02:39,827 Speaker 2: Does that how you remember it as well? When you 70 00:02:39,867 --> 00:02:40,467 Speaker 2: first became a pro? 71 00:02:40,747 --> 00:02:43,907 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, for sure. It was a Tuesday Thursday training 72 00:02:44,027 --> 00:02:45,947 Speaker 3: is a big thing. Jim had just started. I think 73 00:02:45,987 --> 00:02:49,507 Speaker 3: we got a Vota phone cell phone for the first 74 00:02:49,547 --> 00:02:51,467 Speaker 3: time and everyone had the Snake game on that So 75 00:02:52,147 --> 00:02:54,707 Speaker 3: that's come a long way and some some obviously a 76 00:02:54,707 --> 00:02:56,987 Speaker 3: lot of good stuff and some bear stuff. There's a 77 00:02:57,027 --> 00:02:58,667 Speaker 3: lot more tries in that squad back in the day, 78 00:02:58,707 --> 00:03:01,667 Speaker 3: but there's a lot more space. So yeah, rugby keeps involving. 79 00:03:01,707 --> 00:03:03,387 Speaker 2: I suppose I was at a function with you a 80 00:03:03,427 --> 00:03:05,347 Speaker 2: year ago and you were talking about how rugby has 81 00:03:05,467 --> 00:03:08,827 Speaker 2: changed a lot, to change a lot in many ways 82 00:03:08,827 --> 00:03:10,627 Speaker 2: on the field but also off the field, and you 83 00:03:10,667 --> 00:03:13,387 Speaker 2: made a great point about it, how sometimes things can 84 00:03:13,467 --> 00:03:15,307 Speaker 2: just be sorted out over a beer, but that doesn't 85 00:03:15,307 --> 00:03:16,827 Speaker 2: happen quite so much these not. 86 00:03:16,787 --> 00:03:17,627 Speaker 4: As much there. 87 00:03:18,347 --> 00:03:20,387 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny if Penny and Emerson's and to do 88 00:03:20,467 --> 00:03:23,267 Speaker 3: such a big thing for rugby and stuff, But yeah, 89 00:03:23,307 --> 00:03:24,627 Speaker 3: a lot of things can be sort of over a beer, 90 00:03:24,627 --> 00:03:28,587 Speaker 3: and some can't be. But I suppose the modern era 91 00:03:28,667 --> 00:03:30,667 Speaker 3: don't really like talking to big people and skinning out 92 00:03:30,667 --> 00:03:32,707 Speaker 3: and socialized as much as we used to, and we 93 00:03:32,747 --> 00:03:34,227 Speaker 3: probably didn't like going to the gym as much as 94 00:03:34,227 --> 00:03:34,507 Speaker 3: they do. 95 00:03:34,587 --> 00:03:37,867 Speaker 4: So it's a there's a happy medium somewhere used to how. 96 00:03:37,747 --> 00:03:39,387 Speaker 2: Do you reflect on your rugby your career though all 97 00:03:39,787 --> 00:03:42,667 Speaker 2: I mean it was a terrific career. Eighty three test matches, 98 00:03:43,547 --> 00:03:45,627 Speaker 2: rugby World Cup won, you went to two World Cups, 99 00:03:45,627 --> 00:03:48,507 Speaker 2: You kept in the All Blacks in twenty eleven against Canada. 100 00:03:48,547 --> 00:03:50,507 Speaker 2: How do you think back on it? Much? 101 00:03:51,347 --> 00:03:54,627 Speaker 3: Not a great deal, pretty lucky really, so obviously a 102 00:03:54,747 --> 00:03:56,587 Speaker 3: big change. And I talked about that thing well into 103 00:03:56,787 --> 00:03:58,547 Speaker 3: last year, was getting out of the getting out of 104 00:03:58,587 --> 00:04:01,227 Speaker 3: a comfort zone and moving up to Taranaki and focus 105 00:04:01,267 --> 00:04:04,187 Speaker 3: on footy up there and on the way lucky enough 106 00:04:04,507 --> 00:04:06,907 Speaker 3: captain by the leisurey Andy Slater and then got called 107 00:04:06,907 --> 00:04:10,747 Speaker 3: in the Crusaders and had Todd Blackhead was a skipper 108 00:04:10,747 --> 00:04:13,587 Speaker 3: of those days, so it was a lot different. You'd 109 00:04:13,587 --> 00:04:15,627 Speaker 3: get into a team, you get thrown a hundred thousand 110 00:04:15,627 --> 00:04:18,787 Speaker 3: dollars and told look after it, how you think And 111 00:04:18,827 --> 00:04:21,067 Speaker 3: then finally we worked out that as probably wasn't the 112 00:04:21,107 --> 00:04:22,747 Speaker 3: best thought of you to give twenty or one year 113 00:04:22,747 --> 00:04:23,907 Speaker 3: olds that much money. 114 00:04:23,627 --> 00:04:25,907 Speaker 4: And we moved on. It's changed so much. 115 00:04:25,907 --> 00:04:29,787 Speaker 3: You got provisional development and you know, the academies and 116 00:04:29,787 --> 00:04:32,147 Speaker 3: all those sorts of things that come along. So it's 117 00:04:32,227 --> 00:04:34,827 Speaker 3: changed a lot, but yeah, there's still a lot of 118 00:04:34,827 --> 00:04:36,147 Speaker 3: good good on the old days as well. 119 00:04:36,467 --> 00:04:39,467 Speaker 2: You did you consider yourself just to be just did 120 00:04:39,467 --> 00:04:41,427 Speaker 2: you consider yourself to be a farmer who played rugby 121 00:04:41,507 --> 00:04:43,427 Speaker 2: or a rugby come from the far. 122 00:04:43,627 --> 00:04:45,507 Speaker 3: Very much a farmer who played rugby for the start, 123 00:04:46,227 --> 00:04:49,347 Speaker 3: and then when I went away it's sort of collecked 124 00:04:49,387 --> 00:04:51,507 Speaker 3: a little bit towards the later on two thousand and 125 00:04:51,547 --> 00:04:54,507 Speaker 3: seven on it was more this is I actually can 126 00:04:54,587 --> 00:04:56,267 Speaker 3: play the game properly and deserve to be here. So 127 00:04:56,987 --> 00:04:59,307 Speaker 3: it was great, well lasted. It's not so good now 128 00:04:59,307 --> 00:05:00,427 Speaker 3: when you get out of bed and trying to pull 129 00:05:00,467 --> 00:05:01,147 Speaker 3: the socks and that on. 130 00:05:01,267 --> 00:05:04,107 Speaker 4: But that's our yea. It wouldn't change anything. 131 00:05:04,107 --> 00:05:05,907 Speaker 2: Well, you could certainly play two thousand and eight, you 132 00:05:06,027 --> 00:05:08,107 Speaker 2: zeal And be Player of the Year. Can I tell 133 00:05:08,187 --> 00:05:10,107 Speaker 2: you about the Rugby World Cup Final? You came off 134 00:05:10,107 --> 00:05:12,107 Speaker 2: the last half hour? What was that half hour? 135 00:05:12,307 --> 00:05:16,187 Speaker 3: Like? Uh, it was pretty good being out there because 136 00:05:16,187 --> 00:05:18,147 Speaker 3: you could probably do something about it. Yeah, other four 137 00:05:18,227 --> 00:05:21,507 Speaker 3: million of us couldn't. But we're doing some uncharacteristic things. 138 00:05:21,547 --> 00:05:23,787 Speaker 3: I think we're out there and just so I got 139 00:05:23,827 --> 00:05:26,227 Speaker 3: on the air skipper ad a quick quick kickoff that's 140 00:05:26,267 --> 00:05:28,587 Speaker 3: never been done before. We sort of we panted a 141 00:05:28,627 --> 00:05:31,627 Speaker 3: little bit, but in the end the old heads Andy Ellis, 142 00:05:32,427 --> 00:05:35,467 Speaker 3: Ali Williams, myself, I think lucky enough, had a bit 143 00:05:35,507 --> 00:05:37,147 Speaker 3: of experience on the bench and we come through and 144 00:05:37,347 --> 00:05:38,667 Speaker 3: I was never in doubt, really was it? 145 00:05:38,707 --> 00:05:38,867 Speaker 4: Well? 146 00:05:38,947 --> 00:05:42,787 Speaker 2: Oh no, well like seven you know, I'm not No 147 00:05:42,867 --> 00:05:45,147 Speaker 2: one was nervous at all. As you say, they're being 148 00:05:45,147 --> 00:05:47,387 Speaker 2: out there, I guess you can't. You know what would 149 00:05:47,427 --> 00:05:49,467 Speaker 2: have been worth sitting on the beach, would yeah, to 150 00:05:49,547 --> 00:05:49,987 Speaker 2: be hopeless? 151 00:05:50,027 --> 00:05:52,267 Speaker 3: Yeah, I say, out there And as I suppose you 152 00:05:52,307 --> 00:05:54,027 Speaker 3: trained for those in the bigger moments. I think I 153 00:05:54,027 --> 00:05:55,547 Speaker 3: had to throw the ball on at the end and 154 00:05:55,787 --> 00:05:58,587 Speaker 3: to bread thorn to seal the game. So it was 155 00:05:58,627 --> 00:06:00,667 Speaker 3: probably more relief than anything for the whole New Zealand 156 00:06:00,667 --> 00:06:01,827 Speaker 3: that we finally got over the line. 157 00:06:01,867 --> 00:06:04,707 Speaker 4: And as I said it was it was very hard. 158 00:06:05,187 --> 00:06:08,947 Speaker 3: Alcoholics don't get enough appreciation to draw and drink ef 159 00:06:08,947 --> 00:06:10,787 Speaker 3: you down of the week for fourteen days sort of 160 00:06:10,827 --> 00:06:11,507 Speaker 3: caught up on us. 161 00:06:12,747 --> 00:06:14,947 Speaker 2: Isn't true that the freaks boys went to the gym 162 00:06:14,987 --> 00:06:16,507 Speaker 2: the next morning? Uh? 163 00:06:16,587 --> 00:06:19,467 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were on the way to the gym and 164 00:06:19,507 --> 00:06:24,147 Speaker 3: I was trying to form a room, so it was yeah, 165 00:06:24,587 --> 00:06:26,147 Speaker 3: And we're all got mates as well, so that was 166 00:06:26,147 --> 00:06:27,867 Speaker 3: just part of sports and the opposite the track and 167 00:06:27,907 --> 00:06:29,987 Speaker 3: we all get on for a common cause. And we 168 00:06:29,987 --> 00:06:31,467 Speaker 3: were lucky enough to win the World Cup and then 169 00:06:32,427 --> 00:06:34,707 Speaker 3: the dream Runner carried on to the twenty fifteen which 170 00:06:34,747 --> 00:06:36,627 Speaker 3: was a was a great series as well. 171 00:06:36,787 --> 00:06:38,787 Speaker 2: So presumably you're go into the game tonight even just 172 00:06:38,787 --> 00:06:40,907 Speaker 2: come up for the for the Emerson's hospitality. 173 00:06:41,027 --> 00:06:42,547 Speaker 4: No, we can't get Emerson's up. 174 00:06:42,547 --> 00:06:44,907 Speaker 3: We're all come from the farm, not just come down 175 00:06:44,947 --> 00:06:46,747 Speaker 3: for the game. And yeah beving us. Have you had 176 00:06:46,787 --> 00:06:49,427 Speaker 3: a few mates and you start feeling like you were 177 00:06:49,507 --> 00:06:50,627 Speaker 3: something Wallager. 178 00:06:50,547 --> 00:06:52,507 Speaker 2: Good stuff and you so you're okay, still to work 179 00:06:52,547 --> 00:06:55,067 Speaker 2: on the farm. Then the sort of the niggles you 180 00:06:55,107 --> 00:06:56,347 Speaker 2: know from rugby don't affect that. 181 00:06:56,707 --> 00:06:59,587 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, just can't run or fast or you still 182 00:06:59,667 --> 00:07:01,027 Speaker 3: doing anything like that. But yeah, the niggles are the 183 00:07:01,867 --> 00:07:03,627 Speaker 3: I din't play rugby, wouldn't have a farm either, So 184 00:07:03,787 --> 00:07:06,107 Speaker 3: that's another way to look at it. So I've got 185 00:07:06,147 --> 00:07:08,707 Speaker 3: a I'm gonna have a lot out of rugby and yeah, 186 00:07:08,787 --> 00:07:10,707 Speaker 3: and hopefully we could carry on and have good times 187 00:07:10,707 --> 00:07:12,267 Speaker 3: and watch good test match. 188 00:07:12,147 --> 00:07:13,867 Speaker 2: Not yeah, let's look forward to it. Great to see 189 00:07:13,907 --> 00:07:17,107 Speaker 2: you mate, thanks for stopping in. I hate to separate 190 00:07:17,347 --> 00:07:19,307 Speaker 2: a man from his bs. So you get that Emerson's 191 00:07:19,307 --> 00:07:21,507 Speaker 2: and go and continue your socialize and good to see 192 00:07:21,547 --> 00:07:23,787 Speaker 2: you mate, see us Sex mate, it's Andrew Wore, former 193 00:07:23,827 --> 00:07:27,227 Speaker 2: All Blacks Howker, joining us here on Weekend Sport here 194 00:07:27,867 --> 00:07:29,627 Speaker 2: at Emerson's in Dunedin. 195 00:07:30,267 --> 00:07:33,427 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 196 00:07:33,547 --> 00:07:36,827 Speaker 1: to News Talk sed B weekends from midday, or follow 197 00:07:36,867 --> 00:07:38,467 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio