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Speaker 1: Did you see the reaction to Donald Trump's comments yesterday?

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Speaker 1: If you missed it, this is what he said about

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Speaker 1: Karmla Harris's race. She was Indian all the way and

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden she made a turn and

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Speaker 1: she went she became a black. Just to be clear,

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Speaker 1: I see somebody should look into that too. When you

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Speaker 1: ask a continue in a very hostile, nasty time, what what? Anyway,

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Speaker 1: the media rightly ran the story and it was a

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Speaker 1: big deal. Isn't that exactly though, questioning someone's race? Isn't

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Speaker 1: that exactly what Lawadi waited he did to Karen Traw.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that exactly what he did the other day in

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Speaker 1: parliament when he asked what blood quantum are? You? Couldn't

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Speaker 1: the same be said of Calvin Davis, saying that Karen

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Speaker 1: Traw quote, lives in a puckyha world. She's Maldy by

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Speaker 1: the way, and what about Tapati Mardi? They said Karen

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Speaker 1: Taw should have been raised by Maldy caregivers instead of

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Speaker 1: Pucky how ones. This is a woman who's been through

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Speaker 1: the state care system and claimed that she had disdain

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Speaker 1: for Maori for her people. This week they said she's

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Speaker 1: just a puppet of her party, and she was basically

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Speaker 1: left in tears in the hallway to TV three. I

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Speaker 1: was still a person. I'm still a person, and I

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Speaker 1: feel like I'm getting that stripped away from me day

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Speaker 1: by day in this place. I've had enough. No apologies

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Speaker 1: from Tapati MARII, no accountability. I just think it's sad.

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Speaker 1: Put the politics to one side for a second. There's

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Speaker 1: a woman crying in a hallway. Wouldn't you want to

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Speaker 1: just say sorry if what I had said had made

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Speaker 1: you feel that way. Karen Traaw is not a bad person.

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Speaker 1: You might disagree with her policies, sure, but also her

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Speaker 1: treatment in the media this week. I think she's been

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Speaker 1: interrogated more about who bullied her then Julia and gender

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Speaker 1: ever was about actually bullying. It's a double standard, no wonder.

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Speaker 1: She's battling and struggling, and then Chippy turns around and

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Speaker 1: says she's not fit to be a minister. Gas lighting much.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I hate all these terms. I hate all

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Speaker 1: these words. Karen Shaw will be fine. She's a very

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Speaker 1: strong individual. I guess that just annoys me because if

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Speaker 1: the shoe was on the other foot, imagine, just imagine,

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Speaker 1: and where's the Human Rights Commission. Where's their statement on

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Speaker 1: this stuff? You know, you know what I mean. There'll

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Speaker 1: be attack dogs on social media. You can you can

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Speaker 1: just imagine how it would play out if the shoe

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Speaker 1: was on the other foot. I say, keep doing what

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Speaker 1: you're doing, Karen Shaw. You're hard working, you're conscientious, and

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Speaker 1: you can rise above it. For more from News talks'd

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