1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: The issue, the interviews, Issus and the Inside Andrew Dickens 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: on the early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: bands and apply at store use talks. 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 2: It'd be hey, good morning to you, welcome to the programs. 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 2: Thank you for choosing us. I'm Andrew Dickins. It's six 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: minutes after five, so on the program today. Turns out, 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: having a gossip at work about your clients it can 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: get you fired. So what are the rules. We've got 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: an employment expert on that. Next, will we be skiing 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: at fucka Papa in twenty twenty five? That all hangs 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: in the balance. The government's got skin in the game 12 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: now they've given them a loan. We'll talk to Dave 13 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: Maisie from the Skifield with his forecast on skiing. Yes, 14 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: it's a skiing forecast. That's in ten minutes time. The 15 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 2: albatross has been hanging around our Next, will we get 16 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: new ferries anytime soon? Labor with their reaction to what 17 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: they call government in action just before sticks. We've got 18 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: Kate Fisher out of the States on the saga of 19 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: luig Gi Mangioni and also files of Malibu. And we've 20 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: got correspondence from right around New Zealand and news as 21 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: it breaks all in one hour. You can text me 22 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: on ninety two ninety two. You can email Dickens at 23 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: Newstalk ZMB dot co dot NZ. 24 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 3: The agenda. 25 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: It's Thursday, the twelfth of December. Israel says it's conducted 26 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: almost five hundred strikes in Syria in just two days. 27 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: The IDEF claims that destroyed the country's entire navy fleet, 28 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: as well as most of Syria's strategic weapon stockpiles. 29 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 4: I hereby warn the rebel leaders in Syria whoever follows 30 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 4: Asad's path will end up like Asad. We will not 31 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 4: allow an extremist Islamic terrorist entity to act against Israel 32 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 4: across its borders and at the risk of its citizens. 33 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 4: We will do whatever is necessary to remove that threat. 34 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: So to Australia, an investigation underway in Sydney. A car 35 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 2: was set on fire, multiple houses vandalized. That's what the 36 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: Prime Minister calls a hate crime. They're looking for two 37 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: people aged between fifteen and twenty, and Sydney comes just 38 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: a few days after a similar attack in Melbourne, where 39 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: a synagogue was set on fire. Police are treating it 40 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: as a possible terror attack. They have an operation called 41 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: Operation the Light, which is trying to combat this sort 42 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: of stuff. Police in South Korea have arrested their own 43 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: national chief and the head of Sul's police force for 44 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: blocking access to the National Assembly on the night that 45 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: the president voked martial law at a parliamentary committee. A 46 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: special warfare commander says the president called and asked him 47 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: to forcibly remove members of parliament from the chamber so 48 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: they wouldn't have enough votes to overturn the martial. 49 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: Law even if he followed the directive. Our deployed forces 50 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: will later be considered law. 51 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: Breakers, and too many people cook get hurt. We determine 52 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: it would beyond. 53 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: Just there we go. And finally, US inflation has jumped 54 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: up heading two point seven percent in the year ending November, 55 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: slightly higher from the two point six percent was seen 56 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: in a previous month. Food and petrol prices. Where the 57 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: big drivers of inflation will is winter. There, of course, 58 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: the food gets more expensive. Despite all of that, though, 59 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 2: the Federal Reserve still expected to cut rates next week, 60 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: which is going to make the world economy harden. It 61 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: is nine after five. 62 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: The news You need this Morning and the in Depth 63 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: Analysis Early edition with Andrew Dickens and Spit City New 64 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: Zealand's Furniture Bits and applying store news talks. 65 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: It'd be oh, actually, since we're talking about inflation going 66 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: up in America, let's talk about the fact that this 67 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: week we found out that inflation was still going up 68 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: in Australia. The Reserve Bank there are nowhere near lowering 69 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: interest rates like we have. Inflation is still blunting their 70 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: daily life. So in Australia they actually praise us, you 71 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: know that, they actually praise our hard edged approach to inflation. 72 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: We rose interest rates hard, yes, but then we lowered 73 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: them hard as well. They didn't. They've been hoping for 74 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: a soft landing that never happened. So inflation grumbles on. 75 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: And look, it's important for us, isn't it that Australia 76 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: does well, a healthy Australian economy, Because they are our 77 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: big brother. I'd hope they would do a little bit better. 78 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Here's the thing. In Australia they 79 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: praise our Reserve Bank, We damn them. We blame Adrian 80 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: Or for getting us into a world of pain. Turns 81 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: out the world of pain was being felt all over 82 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: the world. Adrian or was not some outlier doing something 83 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: completely crazy. Everybody was spending too much, everybody loosened far 84 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: too much. Nobody expected the global economy to work so 85 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 2: well from home. So in Australia they view Adrian kindly. 86 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 2: Look at those kiwis, Look how nimble they are, Look 87 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: how brave they are, look at them pivoting on a dime. 88 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: And meanwhile in New Zealand we talk about the nirvana 89 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: and the rivers of gold that wait for our young 90 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: folk in Australia, and so off they go. So here's 91 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: a fact check. In Australia, inflationist still on the charge. 92 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: In Australia, the housing crisis is worse than ours. In Australia, 93 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 2: they have three tiers of taxation. In Australia, they have 94 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: way more user pays than us. In Australia, their Prime 95 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: Minister looks more and more like an out of a 96 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: touch ideological lefty than ours. In fact, the only thing 97 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 2: about Australia that I like is the fact that they're bigger. 98 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,119 Speaker 2: So if you do well in Australia, will do very well. 99 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: But otherwise I know exactly where i'd like to be. 100 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: And that is right where I am right now, Dickens. 101 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 2: So we're waiting for the confirmation of Times Person of 102 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: the Year. It's going to happen sometime in the next 103 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: hour or two. The favorite, Donald Trump. In fact, they're 104 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: giving him this is the betting odds give him an 105 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: eighty three percent implied probability that he gets Person of 106 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: the Year. He's already got it once before, back in 107 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. You have to say what he did 108 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 2: was pretty remarkable to come back and to win this. 109 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: But there's other names on there as well, like Elon Musk. 110 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: Now Elon Musk was also named Person of the Year 111 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty one. He's now ten to one 112 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: to do it again. Look at Elon Though. He's got rockets, 113 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: he's got cars, he's got batteries on the side of houses, 114 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 2: and he helps Donald Trump get back into power. Didn't 115 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 2: he do more than Donald? Also in there as Kamala Harris, 116 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: Kate Middleton has been nominated Princess of Wales for looking 117 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: great through cancer. Benjamin Netts and Yahoo's been nominated. Joe 118 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: Rogan has been nominated. Mark Zuckerberg, who would you nominate 119 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: as person of the Year. You can text me ninety 120 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 2: two ninety two and at number again ninety two ninety two. 121 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: Dickinson Newstalks at b dot Co dot M said, you 122 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: know you have a good old chat about your clients. 123 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: What about that client that you have sold that to? God, 124 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 2: he's a bit weird that one. You do that at 125 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: work right? Apparently it's not good. You can get in trouble. 126 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: Staff at Immigration in New Zealand got into big trouble. 127 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 2: We'll talk about this with an employment expert next here 128 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: on news Talks here b five thirteen. 129 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 3: Get ahead of the headlines. 130 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: Andrew Diggins on early edition with Smith City New Zealand's 131 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: furniture bids and apply at store News Talks. 132 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 2: It'd be great little protests happening right now in London 133 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: as farmers and tractors descend on Westminster. No farmers, no food, 134 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 2: classic absolutely classic, great sites, big old riggs all storming 135 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 2: up there and will keep you in touch with details 136 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: as they come to hand. Now staff at Immigration New 137 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: Zealand have been sacked or given formal warnings for sending 138 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: inappropriate messages about migrants their clients to each other. So 139 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: sixteen staff members at several branches were disciplined inappropriately talking 140 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: about visa applicants on team chats. And you know team chats, 141 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: it's a work software. We've all used that. Employment expert 142 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: Max Whitehead joins me now to talk about this other. 143 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 5: Max, good morning, Andrew. 144 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 6: There's a shocker. 145 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: Is it a shocker? I mean hello, I mean everyone 146 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: is guilty about gossip being about our clients. These are 147 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: just clients. They're talking about stuff they're helping, they're being collegial, Max. 148 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 5: Yes, but one, you're using an employer's tool to make 149 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 5: this disrespectful and could easily bring the employer into disrepute 150 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 5: and has because obviously these people now are in the media. 151 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 5: I mean Andrew Dickinson's talking about them right now. 152 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: Yes, that's true. So hold on. They made a very 153 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: important point because it's because it's on teams that makes 154 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: it worse. 155 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 5: It doesn't make it worse. And look, even if they 156 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 5: made a comment on their own social media like Facebook 157 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 5: or or you know, any one of those TikTok or 158 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 5: anything like that at all, that brings the employer into disrepute. 159 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 5: So if they said something like this is the worst 160 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 5: employer anybody could have, I'm suffering here. That will bring 161 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 5: that will bring on disciplinary action, and it could even 162 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 5: be dismissal. So the employer is required to have a 163 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 5: policy before they can enforce it. If it's not there's 164 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 5: no policy, they should at least give the person a 165 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 5: warning first offense, and then thereafter go after it. But 166 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 5: employers need to be aware that they also have to 167 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 5: be careful of free speech, because people do have an 168 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 5: entitlement to say well what they like to some extent, 169 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 5: but bringing someone into disrepute that particularly your employer, the 170 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 5: employer can be reactive to it, and probably will. 171 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: Of course, my social media is full of me criticizing everybody. 172 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: You know, so I'm in big trouble, I guess. But 173 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: people forget about reputational risk and reputational risks to companies 174 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: and reputational risks to individuals and your own brand. 175 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 5: Correct and look more of the higher ranking like look 176 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 5: at you. I'm in the highest ranking person in ZB. 177 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 5: If you made a comment, you would be in worse 178 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 5: trouble than perhaps someone slowly down the line. If I 179 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 5: was just a normal employee who fronted up and did 180 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 5: all the league work, that would have a big, big 181 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 5: ramification for you. Now there's there's a couple of court 182 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 5: cases which are really interesting. One man had road rage 183 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 5: and actually ran over somebody and that made headlines. And 184 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 5: of course, but everyone knew where this person worked. He 185 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 5: had a high profile, and so the employer dismissed him, 186 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 5: even though I had nothing to do with the workplace, 187 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 5: dismissed him for bringing into distribute. Another person on the 188 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 5: birthday cake put something like and I work for the 189 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 5: worst bees in the world. You know, I can't say 190 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 5: the word, but certainly that person on social media and 191 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 5: thought it was funny and wow, gone finished. 192 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: All right, Max, that's a very warning that has Max 193 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: Whitehead here is an employment law specialist with white Head Consultants. 194 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 2: And look, here's the thing. Make some rules for yourself 195 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: if your employer, please make a rule for your employees too, 196 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 2: so you know, just in case they are having a 197 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: bit of a gossip they realize that that's the wrong thing. 198 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: Don't just come out of the blue. And remember, termination 199 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: is terminal. Can I just say I have skied at 200 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: fucker Papa ski Field since I was five years of 201 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 2: age and I am now sixty one. I have skied 202 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 2: at that place a lot, and it breaks my heart 203 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 2: that it could possibly never be skeied on again. So 204 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: we'll update exactly where we're at with all of that 205 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: in just a few moments time with the guy who 206 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: runs the field. It's nineteen alf to five on your. 207 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: Radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with Andrew Dickens 208 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: and Smith City, New Zealand's to Bids and a playing Store. 209 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: You talk said, be that's good mooing to you. 210 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 6: Now. 211 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: Despite the fact that Shane Jones said no more money 212 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: for ral, Cabinet has approved a five minute endlar bone 213 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: for Fucking Papa Holdings limits it to buy RuPay Who's 214 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: fucker Papa ski Field? So the loan hangs on Fucker 215 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 2: Papa Holdings getting a concession to run the skifield from 216 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: the Department of Conservation. This how could be complete by April, 217 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: ready for the twenty twenty five ski season. So Dave 218 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 2: Mayzie as a man trying to hold it all together 219 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: and joins me. 220 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 6: Now, Hello, Dave, Hello, Andre, how are you? 221 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 2: I'm very good and obviously I'm a former life pass 222 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: owner from nineteen seventy six. 223 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 3: Mate. 224 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 2: I want this field to go, will it? I wanted 225 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: to work? 226 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 6: No, it'll go it'll work, it will be successful, and 227 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 6: it'll get back to contributing to central North Island economy 228 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 6: in particular and the lifestyle of a lot of Kiwis. 229 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: It's fuck Papa Holdings in any way related to the 230 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 2: old ral rupey who our plane lifts. 231 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 6: No, No, I'm the only You're the only one individual 232 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 6: that's got an association with ral from years gone by. 233 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 2: The government's giving you cash. I mean, do you have 234 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: private backers who will step in from April? 235 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 6: You know, there's a group of investors that come out 236 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 6: of a South Island office which is a cross Church 237 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 6: based investment company and myself the investors. 238 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 5: If you get. 239 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 2: Approval from the Department of con If you get approval 240 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: from Department of Conservation it comes to in April, that 241 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: does it give you enough time to be skiing in July. 242 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 6: Well, the receivers will be trading the company up until 243 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 6: that gentleman date and they'll be preparing it for winter. 244 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 6: So yes, we don't have an issue with that. 245 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 2: Something I've always asked is if I wondered about is 246 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 2: what's happening to the ski clubs that are on fuck Aparta, 247 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: Because there's about forty or fifty of them up there. 248 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: I used to belong to Christiania, made of mine, used 249 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: to be the president of Tahara Nuku. I mean there's 250 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 2: a lot of infrastructure up there that is dependent on 251 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: people being able to ski. 252 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's that's part of the risks for focker 253 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 6: poper not trading going forwards. There's fifty eyed lodges there. 254 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 6: They're still they're still there. There's still very much as 255 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 6: you will remember, and if the skier is not there 256 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 6: reasonable expectation that those lodges will all all those clubs 257 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 6: will fall over and that sort the next tip five 258 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 6: to ten years and someone's got to pick up the 259 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 6: cost of their removing. 260 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Now that's the other thing. When when this 261 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 2: field falls over or touro fall falls over, the Department 262 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 2: of Conservation demands that you then have to re establish 263 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 2: the mountain. You're going to take down the kit another 264 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 2: and if you had to take down all the ski 265 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 2: for your kit, that's one hundred million dollars to take 266 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: down a holiday kit that does nothing. 267 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 6: Why well, it's a World Heritage site that's sincerely strong 268 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 6: and highly regarded. Attributes to social to look themong or 269 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 6: it's incredibly significant to local EWE. And you don't leave 270 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 6: stranded assets in a national park. When road bridges get 271 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 6: roads get realigned, and a bridge is redundant through a 272 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 6: national park, it gets fully removed in the land restored, 273 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 6: same principle. 274 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 2: So expensive. And one last question. 275 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 6: The companies were clubs have gone into receivership or liquidation, 276 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 6: then that that cost falls on dark arter government. 277 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: And finally, the Skywalker, which is the gondola, is that 278 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: separate to the ski operation? I mean, will that always 279 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: continue because it has a sightseeing thing, it has a 280 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: restaurant at the top. Is that sort of separated from 281 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: the rest of the company and the operation? 282 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 6: Now that well, it's one of the assets that will 283 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 6: be buy. 284 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: So which means you can operate all year long. Dave, look, 285 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: I wish you obviously only the best of black and 286 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: we should know this by April, that is five twenty five. 287 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: It's NEWSTALKSB. 288 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: The early edition full show podcast on Ironart Radio powered 289 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: by News Talks. 290 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 2: At me tired of hearing about the fairies. We've been 291 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 2: talking about fairies all week long. In fact, we've been 292 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: talking about them for a year. So we're going to 293 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: be talking about fairies. The Herald's headline this morning is 294 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 2: faerry plan light on key details, no kidding, like details 295 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: on a boat of wharf in a terminal. Basically that's 296 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: everything about about a faery. When Nichola Willis blew up 297 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: Kiwi Rail's plan for new fairies a year ago, she 298 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: promised a better plan. Is this a better plan? So 299 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: they're going to form a new company to buy some fairies. 300 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: No news about which fairies, which fairies, what kind of 301 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 2: ferries whatever, They're going to form a new company. That's 302 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: two seconds work. Nothing about what's happening port side. Also 303 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: an invitation to private industry to come up with a 304 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: better solution. So let's review again. No new fairies, no 305 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: new ports, no ships ordered, and seemingly no idea that 306 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: private industry already provides a service that is Bootbridge. You're 307 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: going to say, maybe a private person could come up 308 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: with some interest, Why don't you closed down the ferries 309 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: and give them all to Bluebridge, Because that's what you 310 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: just said, Nikola Wis. Finance Minister Chris Hipkins said this 311 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: was an announcement of an announcement. How rich is that 312 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: It's exactly what we lampooned him for But is it 313 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 2: an announcement of an announcement. It is rather because you 314 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: know they've got to still announce the ferries, the wharves 315 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 2: and the terminal. It was ideological, don't you think the 316 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: government came in, saw government spending and this government doesn't 317 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: make spending, so they canceled it without thinking about the 318 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: long term consequences. It was an ideological These guys are 319 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: sounding more and more like the Labor Party every day 320 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: when I talk like this. This was not based on 321 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: business practice or financial logic. It's not on brand, and 322 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 2: it's harming reputationally. Think about this as a business. They 323 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 2: broke a contract for ships that was a good deal. 324 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 2: Breaking contracts not good puts flag on head. Not to 325 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: mention the break free, which some people have say could 326 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: be as highest round a mill. Now we have basically 327 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: a company owned by the government desperately in the market, 328 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 2: and the providers of new boats or second hand boats 329 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: will go, gee, these guys a week, aren't they look 330 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: at their week in possession? That desperate for a boat. 331 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: Let's sell them this piece of rust. The government just 332 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 2: needs a boat to save their face. Sellers will no 333 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 2: longer be sharpening their pencils, portside costs continue to escalate. 334 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: This is a government that prides itself on business acumen 335 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: and ability of mergers and acquisitions, and they've given themselves 336 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: a weekend going forward. They don't seem to know what 337 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: to do and so they're doing nothing and when they 338 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 2: do do something, they won't have a strong position anyway. 339 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Labor's spokesperson on this fellow 340 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 2: I hadn't heard of before. His name is Tonguey. He's 341 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 2: the Whip. He's going to join us just before six. 342 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 3: News and Views you trust to start your day. 343 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: It's early edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith City New 344 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: Zealand's Furniture Beds and a Flying Store Youth talk Siddy. 345 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 2: Loving the protests in Westminster right now. Farmers are revolting. 346 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 2: No farmers, no foods. They feel they're getting the crunch 347 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: from the Labor Party. And look at them. They're dress 348 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: and beautiful berbery, magnificent cheese cutter hats. They're looking super country, 349 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: looking super fine and they are not happy. So more 350 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: details in our news coming up now. Reaction to the fairies, 351 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: Andrews says Gavin from Canterbury. The fairies were a bargain. 352 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 2: If they were impossible to use, we could have finished 353 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 2: them and then sold them for a profit. Now we 354 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 2: pay three hundred and fifty million and get nothing. What 355 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 2: a good a point. Somebody else has said, I've got 356 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 2: a new name for the boat if we ever get one. 357 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: It's called boti nec. 358 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 3: Save face. 359 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 2: Bumpcha twenty three to six. Core Logics come out with 360 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: their highlights of twenty twenty four. Most expensive suburb Hermbay 361 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 2: average three point three six million. Most affordable suburb murder 362 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 2: Para buy a house there average one ninety one thousand, 363 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: one hundred ninety one thousand. I'll have to thank you. 364 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: Top sale eighty four poud of tie Drive od K 365 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: twenty one point eight mil. Highest rent change in Niokoho, 366 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: which is in topoor medium rents increased twenty seven point 367 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 2: seven percent Nicoho well Highest rental yield where you make 368 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 2: the most money from your rental Matada in Southern gross 369 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 2: rental yield of ten point eight, followed by Wellington Central 370 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: at nine point two. It's twenty two to two six 371 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 2: and around the country you go. 372 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 5: Come. 373 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,479 Speaker 2: I'm Proctor and toned a good morning to you. 374 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 7: Morning Andrew earthquakes. 375 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 2: You don't think of them in Otago, and now you 376 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: don't have to worry about them so much. 377 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 6: Yeah, I know. 378 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 7: Well there's some slightly good news. I supposed for central 379 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 7: Otaga residence. The chance of an earthquake along a western 380 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 7: Otago fault line is now thought to be lower than expected. 381 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 7: This is after a new Otaga University research looked into 382 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 7: the Nevis Kadrona fault to determine just when exactly prehistoric 383 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 7: earthquakes took earthquakes took place along this fault line, and 384 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 7: they've discovered the fault has experienced fewer quakes than initially thought, 385 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 7: one over twelve thousand years ago, another between twenty and 386 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 7: forty thousand years ago. So the lead author's doctor Jack Williams. 387 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 7: He says that this helps him create an insight into 388 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 7: when future earthquakes may happen. He says, despite less frequent 389 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 7: quakes on this fault, people should always though plan. 390 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: Ahead exactly and I'm sure it's still going to be 391 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 2: on your building consent anyway. How's your weather. 392 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 7: Find at first chance for shower later this evening for 393 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 7: Daneeda nor that he's easing the high twenty four today. 394 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: And I thank you. Claire Sherwood joins us now from Crashers, Hello, Claire, 395 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 2: good morning, and environment Canterby' is pushing back against the 396 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: Treaty Principal's Bill. 397 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 8: They certainly are, Andrew. Canterbury Regional Counselors have voted in 398 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 8: favor of a draft submission which is calling for the 399 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 8: bill's abandonment. The draft says the Council's committed to becoming 400 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 8: a Treaty partner of excellence and says the bill would 401 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 8: create both legal and financial uncertainty environment Canterbury Chair Craig 402 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 8: Pauling says it's important council stance is known and it's 403 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 8: not an option to simply sit back and not stand up. 404 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 8: He says he doesn't believe it could inflame the situation 405 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 8: as it provides clarity on where the Council is at 406 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 8: and the potential good stuff. 407 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: And how's your weather? 408 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 9: Fine? 409 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 8: In price Church aside from a bit of high cloud 410 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 8: northeasterlyas turning northwest later a maximum of twenty. 411 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 2: Seven Okay to Wellington we go where the search for 412 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 2: a gang shooter widens. Max told joins is hell her? 413 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 6: Max? 414 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 2: What's happening? 415 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 6: Yeah? 416 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 10: A former a gang president was shot dead on Tuesday, 417 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 10: Albert Knocker of the Rebels. He was targeted, shot in 418 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 10: broad daylight in the middle of the afternoon on a 419 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 10: suburban street in a lower huts nine night. He died 420 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 10: then and there before police could arrive. There had been 421 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 10: some sort of verbal altercation on the street and the shooter, 422 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 10: who police described as a large full facial tattoos about 423 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 10: thirty years old, fled with some associates. There is a 424 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 10: homicide investigation underway, of course. Police want to speak to 425 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 10: anyone around Seddon Street, particularly residents who might have a 426 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 10: front facing security camera on their home. They do have 427 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 10: the plate of the car. They don't think there's a 428 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 10: risk of some sort of gang war erupting. Enoca had 429 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 10: only been released from prison earlier this year. 430 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 2: And how's your weather? 431 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 10: Mostly cloudy today with the odd shower twenty the high central. 432 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 2: Neva left to Mane who joined me in studio, had 433 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 2: anva good morning, so kinda airport had a bit of 434 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: an it your name, oh Fuba, what. 435 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 11: A cluster this was yesterday. I mean, when I was 436 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 11: reading this story, you know, in the news yesterday morning, 437 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 11: I thought I am so glad I wasn't flying anywhere 438 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 11: overseas yesterday. I just yes, SPIRA thought for those people. 439 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 11: But yes, so the internet access was cut. This was 440 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 11: for the international check and system, so many airlines they 441 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 11: had to manually check people in until around nine am 442 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 11: they had queues out the door. The airport says that 443 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 11: this issue was in the domain of one of its 444 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 11: network providers now Grant Bradley, he's The Herald's aviation reporter. 445 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 11: He says this fault came up also while the airport 446 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 11: deals with its range of problems, you know, including you know, 447 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 11: of the baggage system. So he says, they're probably maybe 448 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 11: a lot of pointing. There is the stakeholders meet and 449 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 11: they're going to try and figure out how to ensure 450 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 11: that this doesn't happen again, especially as we know Christmas 451 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 11: just around the corner, busy time for the airports. How's 452 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 11: Hawkin's weather periods of heavy rain, localized downpours possible, tending 453 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 11: to showers by evening, thunderstorms possible. We've got it all, Andrew. 454 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 11: But it's still warm. Our high twenty three in Auckland. 455 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: It is eighteen to six now. Luigi Mangioni, what a 456 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: name what a person, what a story. I mean, he 457 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: was a valedictorian. 458 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 3: He was. 459 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 2: He came from really good stock, you know, and then 460 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: somehow he went a bit crazy and decided to wage 461 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 2: war on corporate America. Luigi Mangioni is also a very 462 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 2: entertaining name to saying. The only Mangioni I know is 463 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 2: Chuck who played a flugel horn. Remember Chuck Mangioni and 464 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 2: feels so good. Anyway, what is the latest on Luigi Mangioni? 465 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 2: Fascinating story. Cape Fisher is with US. 466 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: Next international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of 467 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business. 468 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: As Cape Fisher joins US from Washington, DC. Hellyicate, Hello, 469 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: what what's the latest with Luigi Mangioni. 470 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 9: Well, yeah, he has He's in jail in Pennsylvania at 471 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 9: the moment. He has been charged in New York with 472 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 9: the assassination of the United Healthcare insurance boss Brian Thompson. 473 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 9: But he has a fighting extradition. He appeared in court 474 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 9: yesterday in Pennsylvania and he refused to be extradited with 475 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 9: his giving his consent to do so, and so he 476 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 9: was denied bail, which means he remains in jail in 477 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 9: Pennsylvania while the legal ramifications are sorted out in trying 478 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 9: to get him extracited to New York. He's going to 479 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 9: be going, It's just going to take a lot longer 480 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 9: because he is refusing to cooperate. We have also found 481 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 9: out reporting here saying that a notebook was found on him, 482 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 9: which in which he described or the notebook, the writing 483 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 9: in the notebook described going to a common and killing 484 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 9: an executive. Quote, what do you do? You whack the 485 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 9: CEO at the annual parasitic being counter convention. It's targeted, 486 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 9: precise and doesn't risk innocence. 487 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 2: So the fact that the United Healthcare boss and the 488 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 2: fact that he assassinated him, there wasn't any any personal beef. 489 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 2: That was just because he exists. 490 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 9: Well, yeah, he's the fact he allegedly did. So, yeah, 491 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 9: it's his manifesto. Police are suggesting as it is such 492 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 9: as it is, is that he was fed up with 493 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 9: corporate America and that he wanted to make an example of, 494 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 9: you know, of trying to make a statement, if you like, 495 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 9: by doing something that would bring down one of these 496 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 9: chief executives. It doesn't suggest in any of the writings 497 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 9: that has certainly been reported on so far that there 498 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 9: was a personal issue with United Healthcare. It was more 499 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 9: of a general issue with the whole of corporate America. 500 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 2: So mister Thompson was just in the wrong at the 501 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 2: wrong time. It's a tragedy, it's a horrific crime. We've 502 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 2: got fires in Malibu, and you know it's serious. The 503 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: celebrities are evacuating. 504 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 9: That's right. Dick Van Dyke, who was in of course 505 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 9: Mary Poppins and musicians share or among thousands of people 506 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 9: who've been told to leave their homes in Malibu after 507 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 9: this really fast moving wildfire broke out. It's burning acres 508 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 9: of this area, and it's a very wealthy area. Lots 509 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 9: of very rich people and stars lived there. Were also 510 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 9: told that people like Barbara Streisan, Jay Z, and Beyonce 511 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 9: Lady Gaga all have homes in the evacuation zone, although 512 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 9: we don't know whether they've been forced to leave or 513 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 9: even if they are in those homes at the moment. 514 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 9: But yeah, lots of residents having to leave, a vast 515 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 9: wave of California under fire, and this of course is 516 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 9: becoming a regular annual event in California. 517 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely thanks so much. Cake Fisher out of Washington, DC, 518 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 2: and those guys who are being evacuated. Also the news 519 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 2: jay Z who's in diddy Gate right now, and Beyonce 520 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 2: Dick van Dyke who's starring in the latest Cold Played 521 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 2: video which is well worth the look. And he's ninety 522 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 2: nine almost one hundred and Share who's just written a 523 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 2: new book. And Share who, by the way, will be 524 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 2: on the Breakfast Show shortly. I don't think I'm giving 525 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 2: you anything away, but Share. What a story, what a person? 526 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 3: It is twelve to six Andrew dickens. 527 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 2: As a story on everybody's lips. It is the Fairy. 528 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: The long awaited ferry announcement from the government came yesterday. However, 529 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: there's still plenty of unanswered questions. There are going to 530 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: be two new fairies, but the government won't say they 531 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: how much they will cost, or whether the rare fairies 532 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: will be rail enabled. A new Crown Company will be 533 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: established to have the new Fairies ready to begin service 534 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 2: by twenty twenty nine. And Tonguey Tickety joining me right now. 535 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 2: He is a spokesperson for Transport and Labour's Chief Whip. Hello, 536 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: this is a Christmas gift. For you, isn't it tongy? 537 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 6: Good morning, Andrew. 538 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 12: Well, I think this whole saga has been ongoing and 539 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 12: yesterday's announcement was extremely disappointing. It's rather underwhelming, and this 540 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 12: has been the sort of mainstay for Nikolaullis since she's 541 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 12: been in the Captain's chair around this particular issue of 542 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 12: the fairies. 543 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 2: What is underwhelming about this deal, Well, the issue. 544 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 12: Is that nothing really was announced yesterday with an announcement 545 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 12: of an announcement. What we've learned is that Kiwis will 546 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 12: need to wait longer for the fairies when they do arrive. 547 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 12: It was meant to be twenty twenty six under the 548 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 12: former government. Now we'll have to wait until at least 549 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 12: twenty twenty nine. There'll be smaller boats that are likely 550 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 12: to be rail enabled, which will have huge implications for 551 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 12: the main trunk line between the North and South Island, 552 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 12: and fundamentally they will also end up costing much much more. 553 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 12: That is not a deal that Kiwis deserve. 554 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: Could you please explain the difference between ray rail enabled 555 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: and rail compatible and no rail at all? I mean, 556 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 2: what is the difference? Is rail enable is one roll 557 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 2: on roll off or not you know. 558 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 12: Yeah, So rail enabled is what we currently have within 559 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 12: the inter round a fleet for one of the three ferries, 560 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 12: and it means that basically freight can simply go on 561 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 12: a train straight onto the ship at one end and 562 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 12: then come straight off again at the other. Rail compatible 563 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 12: means that they have to basically offload the freight onto 564 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 12: another vehicle to get it onto the ferry and then 565 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 12: at the other end do the same. So it is 566 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 12: a sense of double handling. Now that adds additional cost 567 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 12: to freight costs and who will carry that It will 568 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 12: be the consumer that will carry it, but also the 569 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 12: additional time it's around about three an extra three hours 570 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 12: on a return journey to basically double handle, which will 571 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 12: mean that you know, the faeries can't can't run as much. 572 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. National says their project will be 573 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 2: cheaper than yours or the one that you were overseeing 574 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 2: or the one that you were in charge of or 575 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 2: mir key we Rail was running the whole thing. Will 576 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 2: they have one if the project does come out cheaper, well, at. 577 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 12: Won't come out cheaper. I mean already there's nearly half 578 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 12: a billion dollars in sunk costs. The cancelation fee, which 579 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 12: will be upwards north of three hundred million. We still 580 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 12: don't know what that is and they're still negotiating that 581 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 12: well into next year. The actual cost of the series 582 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 12: on top of that, the addition will increase, and maintenance 583 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 12: of the fleet that now has to continue to run 584 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 12: through to twenty twenty nine, and then of course the 585 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,959 Speaker 12: port side developments which they are pushing that cost on 586 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 12: to rate payers and others. So this actual envelope will 587 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 12: continue to skyrocket, and they didn't give us any indication 588 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 12: as to what that final figure would look like yesterday 589 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 12: as part of the announcement Eiver. 590 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 2: Tell you ty Kevy, I, thank you so much for 591 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: your time today, tann you Ti Kelly, chief Whip and 592 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: also Labour's transport spokesperson. And somebody saying, well, is that 593 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 2: a bias commentator. Yes, he's from labor that's his point 594 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 2: of view. We've found out what Labour's point of view is. 595 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 2: We heard yesterday what National's point of view is, and 596 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 2: you're going to hear about everybody's point of view over 597 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 2: the course of the next day. That's called cabin seeing 598 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 2: all sides. That's called the media, that's called us story. 599 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: It is a minister six and am I too early 600 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 2: for this? 601 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 9: Am? 602 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: Is Heather ready? Is Heather ready? 603 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 3: Heather? 604 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 2: Are you ready? We'll find out well, I'll do a 605 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: name break. 606 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens, on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's 607 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: furniture Beds and applying store news talk, saidby. 608 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 2: I've got a few texts about the shooter in America. 609 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: Someone rightes, Oh, this is Paul, it says to me, 610 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 2: So Andrew, he was fed up with corporate America but 611 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: was caught eating at McDonald's. Yes, Paul irony is rich. 612 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 2: Other people are complaining about the fact they used his name. 613 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: He's a shooter, he's a murderer, alleged. But you know 614 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 2: we all saw the video. So I will not name 615 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 2: the man anymore, even though his name. Come on, get it, 616 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: come offis louis so nice to say? 617 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 13: Why are we doing that thing? Where if we pretend 618 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 13: that if some of us don't say the name, somehow 619 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 13: what he doesn't exist anymo. 620 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 2: Know you also have to click your heels three times. 621 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 3: It's bizarre. 622 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 13: You just send it to that about the Christian shoot 623 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 13: it and arm. 624 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 2: And another text Andrew, these are ships, not boats. Stop 625 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: saying boats. Ships are bigger, better and also more expensive, 626 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 2: and that's good. That's good for you as well. 627 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 13: Yes, vessels, vessels, vessels, So that I sound like I 628 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 13: know what I'm talking about. 629 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,719 Speaker 2: So everyone's talking about the fairies. 630 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 13: Yeah, well, that's an unfortunate decision there yesterday, wasn't it. 631 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 13: I mean, that was incredibly embarrassing. So we'll have a 632 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 13: little bit of a chat about that. I don't know 633 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 13: if you've caught this, but it's been reported on zeb 634 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 13: that what's actually happened as Nichola has signed it has 635 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 13: hammered out a deal anyway. So she's got a couple 636 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 13: of fairies she wants to buy about two hundred meters long, 637 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 13: nine hundred million bucks, and Winnie Pee wants to be 638 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 13: able to better that. That seems to be what's going on. 639 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 13: So he's going to go out and stand. 640 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: So it's like he wants to play a better hands. 641 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 2: But the funny thing is he's also got a hand 642 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: already in the bush, so to speak, so that if 643 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 2: he can't find the better hand, he cans talk about 644 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 2: and go, look, I have these fairies, and Nicola will 645 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 2: just sit there going, well, I gave him to you, 646 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 2: and but you know, we're all sweet and happy here. 647 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 13: He wins either way, right, he wins either way, and 648 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 13: it's all bad for bets. 649 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 2: But then they go through all this period today and 650 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 2: were and last night where everyone's going they're useless. Announced 651 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 2: another an announcement. 652 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 13: Yeah, but it's a couple of weeks before Christmas, so 653 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 13: it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter too much. 654 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 2: Right, Please tell me you're going to talk about something 655 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 2: other than fairy sorry ships. 656 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 13: See, the Saudi Arabians have just been announced as the 657 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 13: host country for the People World Cups. That's gonna flip 658 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 13: some lids, isn't it. 659 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 2: It is rather and we came in and Elliott was 660 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 2: talking about it, and then Elliott just casually says, I 661 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 2: don't think they're going to get the Women's World Cup. 662 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 13: So I did a Google search. If I was to 663 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 13: go in twenty thirty four for whatever reason and watch 664 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 13: the football World Cup in Saudi Arabia, I don't have 665 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 13: to wear a burker, So it's okay for the women. 666 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 2: If you were playing in a Women's World Cup, would 667 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 2: you have to play on the field? 668 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 13: In the booker God, so he knows it's never gonna happen. 669 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 13: They don't want us ladies running around on a field anyway. 670 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 13: We've got a better things to do, like be in 671 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 13: the kitchen. 672 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course. But look it just shows in 673 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 2: money Rules, Money rules, and guess where the next America's 674 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 2: Cup is going to be? Money rules, Money rules, money rules, 675 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 2: and times Person of the Year is announced at some 676 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 2: stage this morning? 677 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 13: Is it this morning? 678 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 2: I think so Thursday? The Thursday I was saying, so cool, 679 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 2: So here we go. 680 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 13: Obviously going to be Kate, isn't it? 681 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 2: It's Kate or Bebe or no? No. Apparently Donald's eighty 682 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 2: three percent probable according to the betting agencies. Anyway, my 683 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 2: thanks to Leo the producer. I'm Andrew Dickins to you tomorrow. 684 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live 685 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: to News Talks it Be from five am weekdays, or 686 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio