WEBVTT - The Resident Builder podcast: July 21, 2024 0:00:06.855 --> 0:00:10.055 You're listening to the Resident build Up podcast with Peter 0:00:10.175 --> 0:00:12.015 wolf Camp from US talks at B. 0:00:13.495 --> 0:00:17.495 Mession twice cut once but maybe colpeed first. 0:00:17.615 --> 0:00:21.175 Peter wolf Camp the Resident Builder with light four solar 0:00:21.335 --> 0:00:24.175 flick the switch to solar today used talk said B. 0:00:27.495 --> 0:00:31.375 In the home stretch of the heart. 0:00:33.455 --> 0:00:41.775 It took the heart love, but we're all, yeah, lack sure, 0:00:42.295 --> 0:00:49.655 Cara s love do it, but we do this ride 0:00:49.815 --> 0:00:54.975 is so they gonna moved when the bones are good restaurant, 0:00:55.735 --> 0:00:58.775 the pink of field, that's the shadow that. 0:01:00.735 --> 0:01:02.175 This you have remain. 0:01:06.775 --> 0:01:08.415 In the Flounish. 0:01:13.295 --> 0:01:16.455 Estate, the house of fallen us. 0:01:18.575 --> 0:01:20.335 Well, a very good morning, good welcome along to the 0:01:20.415 --> 0:01:23.775 Resident Builder on Sunday. You're with Peak wolf Camp. That's 0:01:23.815 --> 0:01:26.455 me the Resident Builder, and we are here to talk 0:01:26.495 --> 0:01:29.735 about all things building and construction. So if you've got 0:01:29.775 --> 0:01:33.615 a project that's underway that well, maybe it's not going 0:01:33.695 --> 0:01:36.495 quite as you would have expected it, or perhaps rather 0:01:36.615 --> 0:01:40.215 than encounter problems, you're thinking, I'll do a bit more 0:01:40.295 --> 0:01:43.855 planning beforehand, and to be fair, nobody ever regrets a 0:01:43.935 --> 0:01:47.575 good bit of planning before launching into a project. Or 0:01:47.655 --> 0:01:50.695 perhaps you are you've done something and it hasn't worked 0:01:50.695 --> 0:01:54.815 out quite as you expected. Maybe it's issues around trying 0:01:54.815 --> 0:01:57.055 to find the right trades people to help out with 0:01:57.215 --> 0:02:00.535 the task, selecting materials, which is always a bit of 0:02:00.575 --> 0:02:03.535 an issue. And then there's always the rules and the 0:02:03.655 --> 0:02:07.335 regulations that surround building and construction in New Zealand as well. 0:02:07.655 --> 0:02:12.015 All of these things are on the table today. Maybe 0:02:12.095 --> 0:02:14.695 like you, you actually made the kitchen table. We can 0:02:14.775 --> 0:02:17.095 talk about that. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty 0:02:17.255 --> 0:02:19.935 is the number to call. Texts is up and running 0:02:20.095 --> 0:02:24.135 nine two nine two, and email is up and running 0:02:24.135 --> 0:02:27.935 as well. Pete at newstalksb dot co dot z. So 0:02:28.015 --> 0:02:30.295 I trust that you had a good week. Certainly we had. 0:02:31.815 --> 0:02:34.175 I wonder whether it's time for the meteorologists or the 0:02:34.295 --> 0:02:36.775 reporting of the media orol just to stop talking about 0:02:36.815 --> 0:02:40.415 weather bombs. You know, we'd like to make those a 0:02:40.455 --> 0:02:44.375 special occasion or an unusual occasion, not just it's raining today, 0:02:44.495 --> 0:02:46.655 so it's weather bomb. And I was thinking about that 0:02:46.735 --> 0:02:49.775 because you know a little bit of you know, fourth warning, 0:02:49.895 --> 0:02:52.575 let's say, allowed me to go round outside and just 0:02:52.695 --> 0:02:55.295 have a look at drainage, make sure that gully traps 0:02:55.335 --> 0:02:59.415 weren't overflowing, that the downpipes are still properly connected. I've 0:02:59.455 --> 0:03:01.735 got a couple of ideal a bit of rainwater harvesting. 0:03:01.775 --> 0:03:04.535 I've got a Bailey slim gym tank tucked in behind 0:03:04.575 --> 0:03:07.335 the shed. I don't really need to irrigate the garden 0:03:07.575 --> 0:03:09.415 at this time of year, so what I tend to 0:03:09.495 --> 0:03:12.655 do is, knowing that there's wet weather coming, I released 0:03:12.735 --> 0:03:16.455 the water from there back into the council system. So 0:03:16.775 --> 0:03:19.415 I'll drain the tank, which means that when that first 0:03:19.455 --> 0:03:21.815 bit of rain comes, it's taken up by the tank. 0:03:21.855 --> 0:03:25.055 I freshened up the water that's in there. But also 0:03:25.215 --> 0:03:29.375 that I it allows me then well, I think it's 0:03:29.415 --> 0:03:32.135 a way of contributing to not having massive amounts of 0:03:32.175 --> 0:03:34.735 water going into the stormwater system every time it rains, 0:03:35.135 --> 0:03:37.935 if you can contain some of it that initial deluge. 0:03:38.215 --> 0:03:40.135 And I was driving, as I pointed out to my son, 0:03:40.175 --> 0:03:43.375 we were driving yesterday. You know, it hadn't rained for 0:03:43.495 --> 0:03:47.655 like four or five hours and or probably even more yesterday, 0:03:48.975 --> 0:03:51.895 and the curbs were still full of water. So that 0:03:52.055 --> 0:03:56.335 whole curb discharge where maybe people have got detention tanks 0:03:56.535 --> 0:03:59.135 on their property, and the way the detention tank works 0:03:59.335 --> 0:04:02.775 is maybe you've got five thousand leter capacity tucked under 0:04:02.815 --> 0:04:04.695 the driveway or something like that. On a new build 0:04:05.695 --> 0:04:07.935 that will fit up, and then there'll be an outlet 0:04:08.015 --> 0:04:10.455 about a seventeen mil outlet at the bottom, and that 0:04:10.615 --> 0:04:14.415 will discharge into the stormwater system into the public line 0:04:15.295 --> 0:04:17.135 for as long as it takes to drain that tank 0:04:17.335 --> 0:04:20.775 back down to that level. And so it's not uncommon 0:04:20.855 --> 0:04:23.935 now to be driving well after the rain has finished 0:04:24.055 --> 0:04:27.695 and see stormwater discharge coming out, particularly if it's a 0:04:27.735 --> 0:04:30.695 curb discharge where you can see it obviously for some 0:04:30.975 --> 0:04:34.495 hours to come after the rainfall. And that's those systems 0:04:34.735 --> 0:04:37.655 working quite well. So, and but what happens when it 0:04:37.655 --> 0:04:39.335 doesn't work well? And I'll tell you about a job 0:04:39.375 --> 0:04:40.735 that I went to have a look at this week. 0:04:41.135 --> 0:04:43.415 Every now and then I go to look at a job, 0:04:44.695 --> 0:04:46.935 partly in the hope that I'm going to be helpful 0:04:46.975 --> 0:04:49.975 and provide a helpful solution, but also because I'm curious 0:04:50.055 --> 0:04:53.135 to see what the actual issues are. So what the 0:04:53.255 --> 0:04:56.015 challenges are. Anyway, this was a basement one. It's a 0:04:56.095 --> 0:04:58.335 sort of question that we get a fair amount. Hey, 0:04:58.535 --> 0:05:00.535 I've got water coming into the basement. What can I 0:05:00.615 --> 0:05:02.175 do about it? So I'll tell you a little bit 0:05:02.175 --> 0:05:05.655 about that particular job later on in the hour. Oh 0:05:05.735 --> 0:05:08.095 eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call though. 0:05:08.295 --> 0:05:11.135 If you've got a project you're underway, you want to 0:05:11.175 --> 0:05:13.255 talk about planning, you want to talk about preparation, you 0:05:13.295 --> 0:05:15.895 want to talk about the materials that you're using, the 0:05:16.135 --> 0:05:20.295 vast number of and the wide range the selection that's 0:05:20.375 --> 0:05:25.055 possible in terms of, you know, choosing paints, choosing silicons, 0:05:25.095 --> 0:05:30.855 choosing building products, choosing materials, choosing tradespeople. You may wish 0:05:30.975 --> 0:05:33.455 to discuss any of those things. We can talk about 0:05:33.495 --> 0:05:35.895 it all on the show this morning. So eight hundred 0:05:36.015 --> 0:05:38.815 eighty ten eighty the number to call text nine to 0:05:39.375 --> 0:05:42.935 nine two and if you would like to email me, 0:05:43.375 --> 0:05:46.855 it is Pete at Newstalk SB dot co dot nz. 0:05:47.015 --> 0:05:48.735 So let's get into it. We've got a busy one morning. 0:05:48.815 --> 0:05:50.935 Later on in the show, if you've got a question, 0:05:51.095 --> 0:05:53.975 call us right now. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is 0:05:54.055 --> 0:05:54.415 the number. 0:05:55.775 --> 0:05:58.095 Doing other house assorting the guard and ask Pete for 0:05:58.175 --> 0:05:58.535 a hand. 0:05:58.735 --> 0:06:02.215 The resident builder with Peter Wolfcam and lighte Force Solar 0:06:02.455 --> 0:06:05.735 get your solar saver pag now call oh eight hundred 0:06:05.815 --> 0:06:07.335 eighty US talks. 0:06:07.335 --> 0:06:10.935 That'd be a couple of texts have come in. First one, 0:06:11.495 --> 0:06:13.775 people are still going on about song. I don't think 0:06:13.775 --> 0:06:16.695 I'm changing it, put it that way. The other one 0:06:16.815 --> 0:06:19.615 that came in and in preparing for the show, I 0:06:19.655 --> 0:06:22.095 was talking with Bevin, my producer this morning, and I 0:06:22.175 --> 0:06:24.095 was saying, look, I've noticed that over the last couple 0:06:24.135 --> 0:06:26.615 of weeks, I've sort of moved into talking a little 0:06:26.655 --> 0:06:30.855 bit around I guess the politics and the legislation around building, 0:06:30.935 --> 0:06:34.015 because it is such a political topic at the moment, 0:06:34.055 --> 0:06:35.775 and I think cast your mind back for the last 0:06:35.855 --> 0:06:39.735 couple of years, I don't know that sort of building legislation, 0:06:39.935 --> 0:06:44.935 building rules, building regulations has actually had as much coverage 0:06:45.095 --> 0:06:47.415 in the media as it has over the last couple 0:06:47.455 --> 0:06:51.655 of months, effectively ever since the coalition government took the 0:06:51.695 --> 0:06:54.175 reins of power and started to look at how we 0:06:54.295 --> 0:06:58.615 construct things housing affordability, housing supply, etc. 0:06:59.055 --> 0:06:59.255 Etc. 0:07:00.295 --> 0:07:04.855 And so I personally it's something that I'm particularly interested in. 0:07:05.015 --> 0:07:07.255 I think it does have an impact on us, and 0:07:07.575 --> 0:07:09.215 over the last couple of weeks on the show, I'm 0:07:09.215 --> 0:07:11.975 just being really honest with you, I've sort of gone, actually, 0:07:12.295 --> 0:07:13.975 it's something that we should talk about, and a lot 0:07:14.015 --> 0:07:15.895 of our conversation is headed that way. And then I 0:07:15.975 --> 0:07:19.215 was driving around thinking this week as I do, thinking, oh, 0:07:19.335 --> 0:07:21.375 I wonder if I should sort of change tack a 0:07:21.455 --> 0:07:24.215 little bit and go, let's go back to sort of 0:07:24.615 --> 0:07:28.735 the more fix it type issues on the show. And 0:07:29.375 --> 0:07:31.735 so you know this basement job that I went to 0:07:31.775 --> 0:07:33.975 have a look at this week where there was literally 0:07:34.095 --> 0:07:37.775 water percolating out of the slab and heavy rain, with 0:07:37.895 --> 0:07:41.775 the homeowners going what can we do? And partly where 0:07:41.815 --> 0:07:43.655 can we get some independent advice? And what can we 0:07:43.735 --> 0:07:46.255 do about it? And what are the solutions, what are 0:07:46.295 --> 0:07:48.775 the range of options around it, what's causing it? And 0:07:48.855 --> 0:07:51.815 then how can we fix it? That's the classic sort 0:07:51.815 --> 0:07:55.175 of part of this program. What's the problem, how can 0:07:55.215 --> 0:07:57.495 we fix it? What are some of the options? And 0:07:57.855 --> 0:08:00.055 I love talking about that, And so I was saying 0:08:00.095 --> 0:08:02.415 to just a couple of minutes before coming on here, 0:08:02.535 --> 0:08:04.775 so I feel that maybe I've headed too far down 0:08:04.855 --> 0:08:08.215 the political regular tree sort of stuff. I want to 0:08:08.295 --> 0:08:11.695 swing the topic back towards literally sort of hammer and 0:08:11.775 --> 0:08:15.655 nails type stuff. And first text up, well, second one actually, 0:08:15.655 --> 0:08:17.975 apart from the one about the song Pete, what do 0:08:18.055 --> 0:08:20.255 you think of Chris Penk's proposal to ease up on 0:08:20.295 --> 0:08:23.535 the h and insulation mandates for new builds. Gavin from Canterbury, 0:08:23.895 --> 0:08:26.575 Thank you, Gavin. I'm more than happy to talk about 0:08:26.615 --> 0:08:29.455 that as well. In fact, I've printed off a couple 0:08:29.495 --> 0:08:32.815 of I have been talking about it with other people, 0:08:33.055 --> 0:08:35.895 let's say, in the sector, people that I know, over 0:08:35.935 --> 0:08:39.055 the last week or so, and certainly, like I say 0:08:39.095 --> 0:08:40.855 at the beginning of this, so I saying, I don't 0:08:40.855 --> 0:08:43.095 think there's been a time in the last couple of 0:08:43.215 --> 0:08:45.775 years where building has been as political as it is 0:08:46.015 --> 0:08:50.175 right now, with a new minister being Chris Penk, coming 0:08:50.255 --> 0:08:53.495 in and saying, you know, I want to know what's 0:08:53.535 --> 0:08:56.295 going on and I'm happy to make changes, and they've 0:08:56.295 --> 0:08:59.655 already started to do that. So last week they announced 0:08:59.655 --> 0:09:04.655 that they wanted to make remote inspections basically the default 0:09:04.775 --> 0:09:09.895 position forcls. Now, that's actually a significant change in the 0:09:09.975 --> 0:09:13.415 way that inspections are run. I know that many many 0:09:13.455 --> 0:09:17.895 councils around the country already do remote inspections, but I 0:09:17.975 --> 0:09:23.855 would challenge anyone who said it's the default situation. All 0:09:23.935 --> 0:09:25.975 of the inspections that I've ever been part of typically 0:09:26.055 --> 0:09:29.215 you're waiting for the building inspector to turn up. And 0:09:29.495 --> 0:09:32.335 so there's been some interesting pushback on that as well, 0:09:32.735 --> 0:09:37.015 including industry organizations going well, unfortunately, we know that there 0:09:37.095 --> 0:09:41.335 are shonky builders out there, and if it's only going 0:09:41.415 --> 0:09:44.615 if inspections are only going to be done by remote access, 0:09:44.735 --> 0:09:48.775 I literally it's a way of the inspector with some 0:09:48.935 --> 0:09:52.335 software being able to access the camera on your phone 0:09:52.815 --> 0:09:57.535 and see and direct you to show them certain items 0:09:57.575 --> 0:10:00.415 that they want to inspect. But it means they don't 0:10:00.455 --> 0:10:02.695 have to be on site, which is arguably more efficient, 0:10:03.495 --> 0:10:05.575 but I think it also means that they don't get 0:10:05.695 --> 0:10:10.255 to see everything that's going on. These things do get 0:10:10.295 --> 0:10:14.455 complicated because inspectors typically aren't there to see everything. They're 0:10:14.535 --> 0:10:17.415 only there to inspect what it is that is required 0:10:17.455 --> 0:10:20.895 to be inspected. So anyway we can talk a little 0:10:20.895 --> 0:10:22.655 bit about that, and then we'll come back to this one. 0:10:22.975 --> 0:10:25.495 What do you think of Chris Penk's proposal to ease 0:10:25.615 --> 0:10:28.295 up on the H one insulation mandates for new bills. 0:10:32.015 --> 0:10:36.495 I don't think it's a good idea for a number 0:10:36.535 --> 0:10:42.455 of reasons. I suspect that what has happened is that 0:10:42.735 --> 0:10:44.935 with a new minister and a new government at play. 0:10:45.375 --> 0:10:47.655 Lots of people want to get the air of the minister, 0:10:47.895 --> 0:10:49.735 and some of those people will be people that are 0:10:49.855 --> 0:10:53.855 reluctant to change or to embrace change, and they are 0:10:53.975 --> 0:10:56.975 people that might go, actually, you know what, I think 0:10:57.055 --> 0:10:59.735 that it's added thirty forty fifty thousand dollars the cost 0:10:59.775 --> 0:11:02.455 of new bill. Therefore it's unaffordable. Therefore we shouldn't do it. 0:11:02.575 --> 0:11:06.655 And that's a fairly convincing argument. Then there are others 0:11:07.695 --> 0:11:10.215 who have come forward and said, actually, no, we don't 0:11:10.215 --> 0:11:13.335 think the cost is that great, but the benefit is enormous. 0:11:13.775 --> 0:11:17.735 And then I caught a little snippet of what the 0:11:17.775 --> 0:11:20.975 Minister was saying the other day. Well, hang on, it's 0:11:21.095 --> 0:11:24.895 cold comfort, quite literally to someone who's locked out of 0:11:24.935 --> 0:11:29.535 the housing market because houses are unaffordable. If after twenty 0:11:29.615 --> 0:11:31.535 years they can say, well, look I've had less energy 0:11:31.575 --> 0:11:34.815 bills because my house is more energy efficient, and therefore 0:11:34.895 --> 0:11:37.775 that's a good thing in twenty years time. But if 0:11:37.815 --> 0:11:39.855 I can't afford to buy a house right now, is 0:11:39.895 --> 0:11:42.735 it a good thing for me right now? So look, 0:11:42.815 --> 0:11:46.535 it does get enormously complicated. Think I think it's deserving 0:11:46.655 --> 0:11:48.935 of our discussion and if you want to launch into 0:11:48.975 --> 0:11:51.735 it by all means. But if I had to say 0:11:51.895 --> 0:11:53.695 yeay or nay to it, I'd say I don't think 0:11:53.735 --> 0:11:57.735 it's a good idea. I think that it is. There 0:11:57.775 --> 0:12:01.535 are lots of ways to achieve better energy efficiency in 0:12:01.655 --> 0:12:04.575 our houses. I think the problem with what has happened 0:12:05.015 --> 0:12:07.495 with the changes to H one one that came into 0:12:07.575 --> 0:12:09.935 effect in the Building Code in November of last year 0:12:10.495 --> 0:12:14.175 is that they still left the schedule method there, and 0:12:14.295 --> 0:12:19.415 that's clunky and it led to people assuming a whole 0:12:19.495 --> 0:12:21.815 lot of that they had to do a whole lot 0:12:21.815 --> 0:12:24.575 of things that they possibly didn't need to do. Sorry 0:12:24.575 --> 0:12:28.215 if that sounds a bit vague, and I think it 0:12:28.535 --> 0:12:34.015 it had a really simpler that way. The schedule method 0:12:34.135 --> 0:12:36.135 is a simplistic way of calculating whether or not a 0:12:36.215 --> 0:12:39.335 building's going to be energy efficient. I understand why they 0:12:39.375 --> 0:12:43.175 want to leave the schedule method there because they want 0:12:43.215 --> 0:12:45.575 to be able to allow people to build a house 0:12:45.655 --> 0:12:49.895 out of three six o four without getting specific design, etc. 0:12:50.215 --> 0:12:50.415 Etc. 0:12:51.535 --> 0:12:54.135 But I think maybe we've just moved beyond that. Anyway, 0:12:54.455 --> 0:12:57.095 we can talk about Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty 0:12:57.295 --> 0:13:00.335 is the number to call moisture and slabs is an 0:13:00.375 --> 0:13:03.015 area that architect specifically provides a solution for. Thank you 0:13:03.095 --> 0:13:07.335 for that. I'll explain more why that's relevant on this hour. 0:13:07.535 --> 0:13:10.175 Right now, your opportunity to have your say more than 0:13:10.455 --> 0:13:14.375 I more than happy to talk politics and discuss the 0:13:14.695 --> 0:13:17.215 legislation because it's going to impact on us, all right, 0:13:17.495 --> 0:13:20.695 if they wind back, If the decision is actually we're 0:13:20.735 --> 0:13:23.975 going to lower the standards, And there's been some fantastic 0:13:24.055 --> 0:13:28.415 cartoons this week that I that have popped out talking 0:13:28.455 --> 0:13:30.535 about this. If they're going to if the government decides 0:13:30.535 --> 0:13:32.055 we're actually going to lower the stands, we're going to 0:13:32.095 --> 0:13:35.295 wind back H one, it's going to have a significant 0:13:35.375 --> 0:13:39.295 cost and it's also a lost opportunity as far as 0:13:39.375 --> 0:13:41.215 I'm concerned. So where are you at with it? 0:13:41.255 --> 0:13:41.375 Oh? 0:13:41.415 --> 0:13:43.255 Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to 0:13:43.295 --> 0:13:44.375 call Zara? Good morning? 0:13:45.535 --> 0:13:47.175 Ah, Hi, Hey, how are you good? 0:13:47.215 --> 0:13:47.495 Thank you? 0:13:49.335 --> 0:13:53.815 Yeah? H one So Obvitually it's not my job anymore, but. 0:13:56.455 --> 0:13:57.815 I wor. 0:13:59.495 --> 0:13:59.895 Council. 0:14:01.135 --> 0:14:05.815 I think the whole rollback of the H one is insane. 0:14:07.135 --> 0:14:07.335 Yep. 0:14:07.415 --> 0:14:10.975 They're probably needs to be some points done, probably more 0:14:11.175 --> 0:14:12.295 architecturally than. 0:14:14.055 --> 0:14:15.855 I tell you what we might do is see if 0:14:15.895 --> 0:14:18.335 we can get you back on a better line, because 0:14:19.255 --> 0:14:22.055 I'm kind of missing individual bits and if I can't 0:14:22.095 --> 0:14:23.735 hear you, then I suspect that someone listening to the 0:14:23.815 --> 0:14:25.775 radio is going to struggle as well, so well, see 0:14:25.775 --> 0:14:29.935 if we can get Xana back as well. The first 0:14:29.975 --> 0:14:32.335 part of her conversation is pretty clear. I think it's 0:14:32.375 --> 0:14:37.335 insane to roll back the H one requirements, and there's 0:14:37.335 --> 0:14:40.095 a number of groups that have come forward, including I 0:14:40.215 --> 0:14:43.415 was doing some reading yesterday. I was looking for some 0:14:43.535 --> 0:14:47.295 information on the brand's website actually for a presentation that 0:14:47.335 --> 0:14:51.935 I've got to do, and they had a press release 0:14:52.055 --> 0:14:57.615 for immediate release on the nineteenth of July. Because that's 0:14:57.735 --> 0:15:00.215 very current, I'll have a bit of a look at that, 0:15:00.295 --> 0:15:04.215 and they've come up with five reasons why rolling back 0:15:04.495 --> 0:15:06.815 H one is not a good ideas. Had a similar 0:15:06.855 --> 0:15:10.335 press release from the New Zealand Institute of Building Surveyors 0:15:11.175 --> 0:15:15.335 and they've proposed that the issue is not around the 0:15:15.535 --> 0:15:19.335 H one requirements. The issue was around the basically the 0:15:19.455 --> 0:15:22.015 quality and the education within the sector. So we can 0:15:22.055 --> 0:15:23.855 talk about that as well. Oh, eight hundred and eighty 0:15:23.895 --> 0:15:27.975 ten eighty the numbers are there, we go hike much better, 0:15:28.055 --> 0:15:30.095 thank you, much better, much better. 0:15:31.615 --> 0:15:33.895 So I was saying my past life, I worked for 0:15:33.935 --> 0:15:38.535 a district council. H one rollback is like a really 0:15:38.615 --> 0:15:41.975 bad call. Sounds like this government does anything labor did. 0:15:42.095 --> 0:15:46.695 They want to roll it back. But like if you 0:15:46.935 --> 0:15:50.055 think about it from a when they're talking about a 0:15:50.535 --> 0:15:54.495 monetary perspective, right, you have to come up with like 0:15:54.655 --> 0:15:57.135 one hundred and sixty one hundred and seventy almost two 0:15:57.215 --> 0:16:02.255 hundred k to get into a property anyhow, you're looking 0:16:02.415 --> 0:16:08.775 at twenty maybe thirty thousand dollars at the max for 0:16:08.895 --> 0:16:12.615 your for your H one, for your extra insulation costs. 0:16:13.495 --> 0:16:17.215 The reality is when you put that against percentage wise, 0:16:17.295 --> 0:16:20.455 against what you have to come up with for a 0:16:20.615 --> 0:16:25.055 deposit on a house, it's just it doesn't add up, 0:16:25.175 --> 0:16:27.215 you know, Like if you look at it in terms 0:16:27.255 --> 0:16:34.055 of percentage wise, it's what an extra seven kke, you know, 0:16:34.415 --> 0:16:39.255 So it doesn't make any sense when we're getting better 0:16:39.495 --> 0:16:45.255 quality insulation. What it is is we've got yep education 0:16:45.375 --> 0:16:49.375 in the sector, people not understanding the standards. 0:16:48.975 --> 0:16:49.895 And how it should work. 0:16:51.015 --> 0:16:56.175 The additional part of it is that we have architects 0:16:56.455 --> 0:17:02.135 who are not designing to the quality to not designing correctly. 0:17:02.295 --> 0:17:06.255 So they're still designing. There's datiful homes, which is great, 0:17:06.775 --> 0:17:09.095 but they're actually not thinking about how they do it. 0:17:09.215 --> 0:17:13.695 You know, like massive, massive windows on the north side. Well, yeah, 0:17:13.775 --> 0:17:15.575 it's going to bake your house. You have to have 0:17:15.975 --> 0:17:18.335 and you've got to have houses that breed, you know, 0:17:18.455 --> 0:17:23.095 you've got to have gaps that breathe at. Ventilation, yeah, 0:17:23.135 --> 0:17:29.055 active ventilation, remote inspections. So I worked for a district 0:17:29.135 --> 0:17:33.575 council if we didn't remote inspections are great where and 0:17:33.735 --> 0:17:38.175 we needed but as the norm, some of the cowboys 0:17:38.255 --> 0:17:41.655 out there that my building inspectors used to come back 0:17:42.175 --> 0:17:44.335 and just tell up stories and they'd be like, oh, yeah, 0:17:44.455 --> 0:17:46.695 so we turned out for the job blah blah blah 0:17:46.695 --> 0:17:50.415 blah blah, and it was like really, so that's what 0:17:50.535 --> 0:17:52.495 you want to go back to. It just sounds to 0:17:52.615 --> 0:18:00.295 me like there's been a lot of advocation through through 0:18:00.375 --> 0:18:05.855 to the ministers because of where the money has come 0:18:05.935 --> 0:18:10.655 from for our campaign, and I think it's not looking 0:18:10.735 --> 0:18:13.735 at the overall perspective, which is they have and well 0:18:13.815 --> 0:18:18.535 being of New Zealanders as a whole. I now work 0:18:18.575 --> 0:18:21.775 in the health sector and I work out one of 0:18:21.855 --> 0:18:25.495 the busiest eats in New Zealand. And believe me, these 0:18:25.695 --> 0:18:27.735 H one standards need to be in there. You know, 0:18:28.055 --> 0:18:32.535 we have people coming in sacks who are dying in 0:18:32.615 --> 0:18:37.375 their home substandards and we need to change that and 0:18:37.495 --> 0:18:39.855 we need to think about what benefits our people. 0:18:40.135 --> 0:18:43.415 And look back ten fifteen years ago when there was 0:18:43.575 --> 0:18:47.735 kind of much wider subsidies available for retrofitting insulation, right, 0:18:49.135 --> 0:18:51.415 and it was almost like before the warm Up New 0:18:51.495 --> 0:18:54.295 Zealand scheme and so on, and it was it was 0:18:54.375 --> 0:18:56.135 not means tested. And the reason I know that is 0:18:56.175 --> 0:18:59.375 because we were able to qualify for a subsidy probably 0:18:59.615 --> 0:19:01.655 fifteen twenty years ago. And I remember doing some reading 0:19:01.695 --> 0:19:04.575 at the time where you know, every dollar spent on 0:19:05.135 --> 0:19:08.895 insulating and making houses warmer had a seven dollar saving 0:19:08.935 --> 0:19:11.495 in the health sector. And that's you know, you would 0:19:11.495 --> 0:19:14.815 probably agree with that given your perspective now, right, So 0:19:16.255 --> 0:19:19.775 having better quality homes is without a doubt a good thing. 0:19:19.855 --> 0:19:21.775 And I'm pleased you picked up on the poor design. 0:19:21.895 --> 0:19:25.495 And I'm again I'm often loath to criticize other people 0:19:25.575 --> 0:19:28.575 in the sector, but I look, I went to a 0:19:30.135 --> 0:19:33.255 site the other day that was being trumpeted, I'm not 0:19:33.335 --> 0:19:35.255 going to say too much about it because I really 0:19:35.415 --> 0:19:38.615 like the people that are doing this particular project. And 0:19:38.695 --> 0:19:41.015 I went there to look at what they wanted to 0:19:41.135 --> 0:19:45.815 display as an exemplar of better building practice, right. And 0:19:46.415 --> 0:19:48.255 I turned up and I was chatting away to someone. 0:19:48.295 --> 0:19:50.615 I was looking at the windows, and I'm going, why 0:19:50.695 --> 0:19:53.295 have you put the windows where they are in terms 0:19:53.335 --> 0:19:57.455 of the relationship between the double glazing and the insulated 0:19:57.975 --> 0:20:02.255 wall framing, right? And I'm like, hang on, how how 0:20:02.415 --> 0:20:04.455 is it that I'm standing here in front of this 0:20:04.535 --> 0:20:09.295 building where this probably been ten or fifteen designers and 0:20:09.455 --> 0:20:12.015 architects who have looked at this and been part of 0:20:12.095 --> 0:20:15.935 the development of this plan, and it's still basically, in 0:20:16.015 --> 0:20:21.575 a word, wrong. So yeah, And I think that's the 0:20:21.655 --> 0:20:23.655 point that was made actually in a press release that 0:20:23.775 --> 0:20:27.895 I saw from the New Zealand Building Surveys, where they're saying, actually, 0:20:28.855 --> 0:20:31.695 you know, the H one changes are actually not that onerous, 0:20:31.975 --> 0:20:34.175 although see I have some criticism of them as well, 0:20:34.335 --> 0:20:37.615 because when they announced that new ceial insulation across the 0:20:37.655 --> 0:20:42.015 country was going to be our six point six that's madness, right, 0:20:42.615 --> 0:20:43.815 that's madness. 0:20:45.375 --> 0:20:45.535 One. 0:20:45.935 --> 0:20:47.215 Thanks to be in the South Island. 0:20:49.135 --> 0:20:52.215 And again, so as you know, and he puts that 0:20:52.335 --> 0:20:53.935 out right, they go, we're going to make it all 0:20:54.055 --> 0:21:00.255 our six point six, just dumb like, completely unnecessary for 0:21:00.495 --> 0:21:03.255 large parts of the country. And in fact, I remember 0:21:03.415 --> 0:21:05.895 having a discussion five or six years ago with someone 0:21:05.935 --> 0:21:08.815 who went, look, I've just added some insulation to my property. 0:21:08.815 --> 0:21:10.535 And then I've done some reading and I've realized that 0:21:10.655 --> 0:21:13.455 anything above R five is actually not making much difference 0:21:13.535 --> 0:21:16.375 at all to the performance of the building, and in 0:21:16.455 --> 0:21:19.455 fact it might have some unintended consequences. And so you know, 0:21:19.615 --> 0:21:22.455 they go, okay, because they wanted to keep the schedule method, 0:21:22.575 --> 0:21:25.415 they went, let's make it our six point six, and 0:21:25.535 --> 0:21:28.735 let's make it everywhere in the country. And so suddenly 0:21:28.775 --> 0:21:32.335 you've got trust manufacturers and framing detailers going, well, hang on, 0:21:32.415 --> 0:21:34.815 if we need to get three hundred and something millimeters 0:21:34.815 --> 0:21:37.095 of insulation, we're going to come up with these funky 0:21:37.255 --> 0:21:40.615 heel trusses, and we can't do six to two rafters anymore. 0:21:40.775 --> 0:21:45.335 Bloody bloody blah. They've shot themselves in their foot, to 0:21:45.455 --> 0:21:47.215 be exactly, and. 0:21:47.335 --> 0:21:50.775 That's our additional costs. That's where costs start to blow out. 0:21:50.895 --> 0:21:53.215 So it's like people aren't thinking about they're designing. 0:21:53.535 --> 0:21:57.695 Yeah, yeah, exactly, think about your design, think about as 0:21:57.775 --> 0:22:01.455 a as a unity group. I mean, get around the table, 0:22:01.655 --> 0:22:05.215 and don't get specialists around the table. You know, the 0:22:05.255 --> 0:22:07.855 people who actually worked, A couple of key people all 0:22:07.935 --> 0:22:11.535 over the country who actually do the job, not the bossers, 0:22:12.615 --> 0:22:13.615 the actual builders. 0:22:13.735 --> 0:22:16.335 Yeah, but you see, I think that that might have 0:22:16.415 --> 0:22:18.775 happened in the sense that I think that you know, 0:22:18.895 --> 0:22:20.895 you can imagine being a new minister in a new government, 0:22:20.975 --> 0:22:23.335 you would be bombarded by people who want to lobby 0:22:23.415 --> 0:22:26.615 for their position. That's politics, right, and that's absolutely fine, 0:22:26.775 --> 0:22:28.855 in the same way that you'll get bombarded by people 0:22:28.935 --> 0:22:31.895 that go Green Building Council stood up the other day 0:22:31.895 --> 0:22:34.015 and went, we think it's a really bad idea to 0:22:34.095 --> 0:22:37.575 wind back h one. A bunch of people that work 0:22:37.615 --> 0:22:39.975 in high performance homes like super home Movement, they said 0:22:40.055 --> 0:22:42.575 it's a really bad idea. Brands have just come out 0:22:42.615 --> 0:22:44.815 and they've said it's a really bad idea. But you 0:22:44.855 --> 0:22:47.375 can also imagine that within the sector there will be 0:22:47.655 --> 0:22:50.775 you know, developers and builders who are going, look, we 0:22:50.895 --> 0:22:52.935 can't seem to get it right. We think it's adding 0:22:53.375 --> 0:22:55.415 in the figure is forty thousand dollars. Let's say to 0:22:55.495 --> 0:22:58.615 a new build. Therefore, we want it rolled back because 0:22:58.655 --> 0:23:01.495 we think it's making houses unaffordable. And that's a fairly 0:23:01.615 --> 0:23:04.935 strong argument, right If you're in charge of trying to 0:23:04.975 --> 0:23:07.695 deliver ten of thousands of houses and you want to 0:23:07.735 --> 0:23:09.535 make them more affordable. If someone says to you, you 0:23:09.575 --> 0:23:11.815 can say forty grand by just winding back H one, 0:23:12.255 --> 0:23:15.175 that's kind of tempting. It's probably untrue, but it's kind 0:23:15.175 --> 0:23:19.615 of tempting. Imagine being in his shoes. In fact, we 0:23:19.655 --> 0:23:21.095 should find out, and I think I'm going to get 0:23:21.135 --> 0:23:23.135 him on the show. Zana, thank you very much for 0:23:23.215 --> 0:23:26.735 your calls and your conversation this morning, really appreciated. Look, 0:23:26.815 --> 0:23:29.655 I'm happy to launch into this in terms of talking 0:23:29.735 --> 0:23:34.415 about H one and the regulations and housing affordability. Quick 0:23:34.735 --> 0:23:37.015 just before I go to en So if you have 0:23:37.055 --> 0:23:40.055 a look on the brand's website if you're interested, they've 0:23:40.095 --> 0:23:43.055 got a press release up there that says brands reinforces 0:23:43.095 --> 0:23:46.895 support for the better Kiwi homes through higher efficiency standards 0:23:47.335 --> 0:23:50.535 in their introduction states last year, the new energy efficient 0:23:50.615 --> 0:23:53.295 standards under H one under Clause H one of the 0:23:53.335 --> 0:23:55.695 New Zealand Building Code were introduced that require better than 0:23:55.895 --> 0:23:59.535 performance than new homes, including more insulation. These changes aim 0:23:59.655 --> 0:24:03.135 to improve the health and comfort and to help country 0:24:03.375 --> 0:24:07.415 reduce the country's carbon emissions. These steps towards aligning with 0:24:07.495 --> 0:24:10.975 international best practice and the expectations of consumers. Goes on 0:24:11.095 --> 0:24:14.735 for a bit and then it says in summary, these 0:24:14.775 --> 0:24:17.015 are the reasons that we think it should be maintained 0:24:17.015 --> 0:24:19.575 as an H one. One The standards are based on 0:24:19.655 --> 0:24:25.095 scientific evidence. Two insulation does not cause overheating. Three poor 0:24:25.175 --> 0:24:28.775 design is the problem. Four avoiding the costs of reversing 0:24:28.815 --> 0:24:31.255 the changes because there'll be significant costs and going backwards. 0:24:31.615 --> 0:24:35.215 And five aligning the building sector with national climate goals. 0:24:35.335 --> 0:24:37.135 So there's more information in there. We'll have a look 0:24:37.135 --> 0:24:38.895 at it a little bit later on if you've got 0:24:38.935 --> 0:24:41.975 a thought. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number 0:24:42.015 --> 0:24:46.655 to call texts as well. Morning. Huge investment has gone 0:24:46.695 --> 0:24:50.455 into suppliers getting the products to reach the new H 0:24:50.535 --> 0:24:53.055 one compliance standards. I work for one of the largest 0:24:53.135 --> 0:24:56.655 aluminium extrusion suppliers for windows and doors, and we've had 0:24:56.655 --> 0:24:59.255 a tremendous investment in R and D to offer our 0:24:59.415 --> 0:25:03.575 thermal extrusions and completely and continually improve them chairs from 0:25:04.295 --> 0:25:05.975 I'll leave your aim out of it for now, Shilo, 0:25:07.215 --> 0:25:10.335 but I one hundred percent agree with exactly what you're 0:25:10.335 --> 0:25:12.855 saying there. A lot of people have prepared for this, 0:25:13.015 --> 0:25:16.175 and winding it back is going to be enormously disruptive, 0:25:16.215 --> 0:25:17.455 and I'm not sure it's going to give you the 0:25:17.495 --> 0:25:19.535 benefit that you're after. Oh eight one hundred and eighty 0:25:19.615 --> 0:25:22.055 ten eighty will take your calls. Ian, Good morning to you. 0:25:23.455 --> 0:25:24.295 Good morning, Pete. 0:25:24.335 --> 0:25:24.575 How are you? 0:25:24.735 --> 0:25:27.415 Yeah, very well, thanks, that's a story. 0:25:28.015 --> 0:25:30.855 Pete's got a question. We've got an old house built 0:25:30.935 --> 0:25:36.815 nineteen eighty four, particle floor flooring, tile roof, and on 0:25:36.975 --> 0:25:42.695 some of the interior petitions, the walls are pressing the 0:25:43.495 --> 0:25:47.815 down through the particle flooring. Correct. Yes, of Servius, there's 0:25:47.855 --> 0:25:51.015 no floor joist underneath it. The question is is that 0:25:51.175 --> 0:25:55.175 a straightforward repair for a licensed practitioner or is it 0:25:55.335 --> 0:25:59.455 more a specialized job for someone who does house leveling 0:25:59.575 --> 0:26:01.855 or something like that. What's your thoughts on that one. 0:26:02.015 --> 0:26:05.375 Probably not a job for someone who does house leveling 0:26:07.535 --> 0:26:10.335 in the sense that it's a little I was going 0:26:10.415 --> 0:26:12.015 to say it's a little bit more technical than that. 0:26:12.215 --> 0:26:14.975 It is in the sense that what's essentially what's happening 0:26:15.135 --> 0:26:18.895 is and it would have been either it was an 0:26:18.975 --> 0:26:21.615 oversight at the time of construction or it just wasn't 0:26:21.655 --> 0:26:24.615 required at the time of construction. So typically if you're 0:26:24.655 --> 0:26:29.055 not putting a load bearing wall on top of a 0:26:29.175 --> 0:26:32.455 series of joys below or across them, so that it's 0:26:32.975 --> 0:26:35.255 the weight of the bottom plate is distributed over a 0:26:35.335 --> 0:26:37.215 number of joys that are running at ninety degrees to 0:26:37.255 --> 0:26:39.575 your bottom plate right, So if you're running parallel to 0:26:39.615 --> 0:26:44.055 your joists, you're either looking to get your framing directly 0:26:44.135 --> 0:26:46.735 on top of it within a certain distance, but you 0:26:46.815 --> 0:26:50.935 would never ideally have it sitting mid span so that 0:26:51.095 --> 0:26:53.415 all that it's being held up with is the particle board. 0:26:53.815 --> 0:26:57.695 And if you do, then you wouldnog between the two 0:26:57.895 --> 0:27:00.895 parallel joists on either side of the bottom plate at 0:27:01.095 --> 0:27:03.735 let's say four hundred centers or six hundred centers right 0:27:04.415 --> 0:27:06.815 to support the weight of that bottom plate. And I 0:27:06.895 --> 0:27:09.255 suspect that if you are able to get underneath the 0:27:09.335 --> 0:27:11.695 floor and look up, you'll find that there is an 0:27:11.695 --> 0:27:15.815 absence of nogs. The next question becomes, Okay, if I 0:27:15.895 --> 0:27:18.175 wanted to put nogs in there, how do I push 0:27:18.335 --> 0:27:20.735 the bottom plate up and get rid of that deflection 0:27:20.895 --> 0:27:25.175 and the flooring which might so can you get underneath 0:27:25.215 --> 0:27:25.975 the floor at that point? 0:27:28.055 --> 0:27:28.255 Ken? 0:27:28.295 --> 0:27:29.735 This but tricky. We may have a cut of section 0:27:29.895 --> 0:27:31.255 the floor out right. 0:27:31.215 --> 0:27:36.415 To get in there. Yeah, So what I suppose if 0:27:36.415 --> 0:27:38.335 I was approaching it, I'd probably look at getting if 0:27:38.375 --> 0:27:41.095 I could get underneath there, you'd cut your noogs and 0:27:41.175 --> 0:27:43.095 if the noog won't go up, you'd actually have a 0:27:43.135 --> 0:27:45.815 small bottle jack underneath it and jack the dog up 0:27:45.895 --> 0:27:48.215 into position so that if the knog is cut to 0:27:48.295 --> 0:27:51.135 the same size as the joists on either side, when 0:27:51.175 --> 0:27:53.375 the bottom of the knog is flushed with the joists, 0:27:53.615 --> 0:27:56.655 then you know that you will have leveled out the 0:27:56.695 --> 0:27:58.775 floor above it's hard to see both sides of the 0:27:58.815 --> 0:28:01.455 floor at once, and then fix it off. And if 0:28:01.495 --> 0:28:05.255 you're worried about it, you know, collapsing or lowering down 0:28:05.375 --> 0:28:08.135 later on, you could put some multi grips or some 0:28:08.375 --> 0:28:11.175 CP forties or you know, some extra bracing on either 0:28:11.255 --> 0:28:13.575 side of it as well to ensure that it doesn't move. 0:28:13.935 --> 0:28:16.815 But that's probably going to be the solution. And I'd 0:28:16.855 --> 0:28:19.335 almost guarantee that when you get underneath the floor you 0:28:19.415 --> 0:28:22.215 can see where the bottom plate is deflecting the flooring. 0:28:22.575 --> 0:28:24.735 It'll be because there's no nogging underneath it. 0:28:26.055 --> 0:28:28.055 Yeah, I think i'd suspect that's the case. We've had 0:28:28.455 --> 0:28:31.055 another section of the house to SA's some sort of thing. Yeah, 0:28:32.415 --> 0:28:35.335 But was that something that was back in the day 0:28:36.055 --> 0:28:37.895 was a non requirement or was it just a bit 0:28:37.935 --> 0:28:40.575 of oh, look, slickness on the building. 0:28:41.055 --> 0:28:44.255 It might be, you know, because when you're laying out 0:28:44.295 --> 0:28:48.815 your choice, right, you know you're off. Maybe you didn't 0:28:49.495 --> 0:28:53.055 to that. Maybe they didn't look carefully at the plans right, 0:28:53.095 --> 0:28:55.495 and they weren't thinking about where their load bearing walls above, 0:28:55.575 --> 0:28:57.655 and so they might have just gone, let's just set 0:28:57.695 --> 0:28:59.495 them all out at six hundred centers and then they 0:28:59.615 --> 0:29:02.215 throw the flooring down, and then they stand the frames 0:29:02.295 --> 0:29:05.015 up on top and they realize that actually it's in 0:29:05.055 --> 0:29:06.975 the middle of the floor. Oh well it'll be okay. 0:29:07.455 --> 0:29:10.575 Well it's not okay forty odd years later. 0:29:11.775 --> 0:29:15.375 No, So is it an idea or a good idea, 0:29:15.535 --> 0:29:18.135 good practice to actually cut that section of floor out 0:29:18.735 --> 0:29:21.575 and lay a new flat piece. And if you get 0:29:21.735 --> 0:29:24.015 going to go rather thank you jack up underneath put 0:29:24.015 --> 0:29:26.495 the nogs in. Should you try and take that section 0:29:26.615 --> 0:29:28.455 of floor out and put a new piece in there. 0:29:28.495 --> 0:29:30.175 So you get quite a lot of work to try 0:29:30.215 --> 0:29:33.415 and get that flooring out because obviously it's trapped underneath 0:29:33.495 --> 0:29:38.295 the bottom plate of the wall that's there. Look, if 0:29:38.375 --> 0:29:42.775 the particle border is in poor condition, which it'll be 0:29:42.895 --> 0:29:45.215 a bit dozy by now, but unless it's had a 0:29:45.295 --> 0:29:47.375 fair amount of water on it, it will still be okay. 0:29:49.095 --> 0:29:52.255 I think I'd probably just take the approach of going, 0:29:52.735 --> 0:29:55.775 let's just get under the nogget and push the bottom 0:29:55.815 --> 0:29:56.535 plate up that way. 0:29:57.935 --> 0:30:00.135 And there is that's wrong with putting an extra pile 0:30:00.255 --> 0:30:00.615 and there. 0:30:00.935 --> 0:30:04.775 Oh not at all the floor as well. Yeah. So again, 0:30:04.815 --> 0:30:07.135 if you go to the building code or yeah, to 0:30:07.335 --> 0:30:10.215 three six o four, you'll find, for example, that there's 0:30:10.535 --> 0:30:13.855 a minimum distance away from a parallel joist that you 0:30:13.935 --> 0:30:17.135 can put a bottom plate. You know, so you might 0:30:17.175 --> 0:30:18.975 be able to be fifty millimeters from the edge of 0:30:19.015 --> 0:30:21.575 the floor joist. And you know, but if your floor 0:30:21.655 --> 0:30:24.455 joiser at six hundred centers, for example, and you put 0:30:24.535 --> 0:30:28.735 it in the middle, well then what's happened is inevitable. 0:30:29.855 --> 0:30:31.895 Yeah, yeah, that's good. 0:30:32.055 --> 0:30:35.415 Yeah, much pressure. Enjoy all right, take care of all 0:30:35.415 --> 0:30:37.255 the best, boy, and having spent a little bit of 0:30:37.295 --> 0:30:40.975 time unerneath the floor putting in nogs. It's i'll tell 0:30:41.015 --> 0:30:42.415 you what, it's quite a good job to do with 0:30:42.575 --> 0:30:45.655 somebody else, because in the instance, the job that I 0:30:45.735 --> 0:30:48.695 did last week or the week before, I thought, right, 0:30:48.775 --> 0:30:50.535 I want to make sure that this nog's nice and 0:30:50.655 --> 0:30:53.495 tight in there. But of course I was, you know, 0:30:55.375 --> 0:30:58.535 a million and a half too tight. So crawl back out, 0:30:58.735 --> 0:31:02.335 cut it, crawl back in fixing the nog, et cetera, 0:31:02.415 --> 0:31:04.575 et cetera. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is 0:31:04.695 --> 0:31:09.495 the number to call. Yeah, we're getting lots of texts 0:31:09.495 --> 0:31:11.975 on the whole insulation thing. Well, we'll take a deep 0:31:12.055 --> 0:31:13.575 dive into this. You tell us where you want to 0:31:13.575 --> 0:31:16.055 go on the show eight hundred eighty ten eighty. I 0:31:16.175 --> 0:31:17.615 will take a break. We'll come back and talk to 0:31:17.695 --> 0:31:18.615 Paul in just a moment. 0:31:20.295 --> 0:31:23.335 Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fence, or wondering 0:31:23.375 --> 0:31:25.495 how to fix that hole in the wall. Give Peter 0:31:25.575 --> 0:31:28.335 Wolf Cabin call on Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty 0:31:28.575 --> 0:31:31.735 the resident builder with light four solar flick the switch 0:31:31.815 --> 0:31:33.535 to solar today news talks. 0:31:33.575 --> 0:31:36.415 That'd be plenty of texts and a welcome you text 0:31:36.495 --> 0:31:40.135 on this particular issue, changing h one, rolling it back, 0:31:40.375 --> 0:31:43.135 sticking to what's already been. I was going to say, 0:31:43.175 --> 0:31:45.615 agreed to. There's no real agreement. It's like this is 0:31:45.655 --> 0:31:48.055 the new rules and get on with it. Oh eight 0:31:48.175 --> 0:31:50.095 hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Paul, 0:31:50.175 --> 0:31:51.735 Good morning you. 0:31:51.815 --> 0:31:56.375 Good morning morning. I'm working on a shed that we're lining. 0:31:56.775 --> 0:32:00.295 Yes to use it as an alternative use with the 0:32:00.415 --> 0:32:04.855 right council approvals and whatnot. But what concerns me is 0:32:04.935 --> 0:32:09.135 the concrete floor. And I reclect back it was about 0:32:09.255 --> 0:32:11.335 Valentine's Day, not that I'm into that sort of. 0:32:11.375 --> 0:32:11.935 Carry on, but. 0:32:15.415 --> 0:32:20.255 About a year ago there was a big flooding and 0:32:20.455 --> 0:32:25.815 the vartity and whatnot, and we're in the caramandle and 0:32:27.295 --> 0:32:28.255 I recall. 0:32:27.975 --> 0:32:29.175 This particular shed. 0:32:29.655 --> 0:32:34.335 There was a lot of moisture that came up, I believe, 0:32:34.415 --> 0:32:39.735 through the concrete. And an old maid of mine, he's 0:32:39.775 --> 0:32:41.895 not a builder, but he's been involved in a lot 0:32:41.935 --> 0:32:45.175 of building projects. He said, pour a couple of cup 0:32:45.255 --> 0:32:47.575 of water over the concrete and see what happens to 0:32:47.655 --> 0:32:49.895 the water. And I found him back and said, disappeared 0:32:49.935 --> 0:32:54.535 into the concrete, and well, when they put the concrete down, mate, 0:32:54.575 --> 0:32:55.895 there's no moisture barrier. 0:32:56.015 --> 0:32:59.015 There's it's just it's just porous. 0:32:59.215 --> 0:33:01.615 And the only thing you can do is put a 0:33:01.655 --> 0:33:06.095 flooring compound down. You obviously can't concrete on top of 0:33:06.335 --> 0:33:08.335 concrete and expected to fix the problem. 0:33:08.375 --> 0:33:08.815 It's going to. 0:33:08.855 --> 0:33:14.815 Cause more problems. What what what are your suggestions? You know, 0:33:15.215 --> 0:33:19.095 I do have some semics floor or you know, floor 0:33:19.215 --> 0:33:22.615 leveling compound there that says that it's good. And I've 0:33:22.695 --> 0:33:25.375 read up a lot on the internet and what there's 0:33:25.415 --> 0:33:28.815 all sorts of compounds available that say that it's as 0:33:28.895 --> 0:33:32.335 good as putting a membrane. Not that there's a membrane 0:33:32.415 --> 0:33:36.175 able to be put on a concrete floor, or. 0:33:36.495 --> 0:33:38.775 There are there are membranes that you can apply over 0:33:38.815 --> 0:33:43.175 the top concrete floors as seilers. So okay, So there, 0:33:44.015 --> 0:33:46.975 let's assume the slab is down, there is no vapor barrier, 0:33:47.055 --> 0:33:49.935 and you'll get moisture coming up through the slab, and 0:33:50.055 --> 0:33:52.175 you want to make it habitable space, and so you 0:33:52.255 --> 0:33:54.935 want to be able to control that internal moisture. That 0:33:55.215 --> 0:34:00.935 makes sense. So are you intending to lay flooring over 0:34:01.055 --> 0:34:04.095 the top of what you're putting down or do you 0:34:04.135 --> 0:34:06.215 want the concrete to be exposed. 0:34:06.735 --> 0:34:11.775 In the wet areas, the idea was to put tiling down, okay, 0:34:11.895 --> 0:34:16.015 all right, and in the non wet areas the insulator 0:34:16.175 --> 0:34:21.855 thermally insulated under the sure carbet on top to keep 0:34:21.895 --> 0:34:22.335 it warm. 0:34:23.615 --> 0:34:25.855 Okay. So the main thing is that you're going to 0:34:25.895 --> 0:34:28.855 cover it, and so you could apply a coating that 0:34:28.935 --> 0:34:35.015 won't then be seen later on truck like, I wouldn't 0:34:35.055 --> 0:34:39.975 use floor leveling compound to try and create a waterproof 0:34:40.055 --> 0:34:44.095 barrier because it won't work right, So, okay, you could 0:34:44.175 --> 0:34:45.895 use that later on, but I wouldn't use it as 0:34:46.055 --> 0:34:50.175 your primary one. So there are crystalline solutions, things like 0:34:50.375 --> 0:34:54.855 Cemex crystal Proof, for example, which is an application that 0:34:54.975 --> 0:34:58.215 you can you mix it up, apply it and it 0:34:58.575 --> 0:35:02.335 penetrates into the pores of the slab, searching for moisture 0:35:02.375 --> 0:35:04.655 and will continue to activate. Now there's a couple of 0:35:04.735 --> 0:35:09.255 issues with that. Can't paint it later on, you may 0:35:09.335 --> 0:35:11.135 not be able to tile over it, so you'd have 0:35:11.175 --> 0:35:14.815 to get some technical advice on that. There are other 0:35:15.455 --> 0:35:19.215 ceiling sealers that you can apply. So for example, where 0:35:19.295 --> 0:35:21.895 we've had a concrete slab that hasn't dried out enough, 0:35:21.975 --> 0:35:24.695 but we've wanted to lay a timber floor over the 0:35:24.775 --> 0:35:26.935 top of it, and we wanted to make sure that 0:35:27.055 --> 0:35:29.135 the timber floor is not going to be impacted by 0:35:30.215 --> 0:35:32.495 the moisture in the slab. Then you can apply a 0:35:32.615 --> 0:35:35.575 vapor barrier there, which is again a brush on application 0:35:36.055 --> 0:35:39.255 that you can then adhere you're flooring to. So that's 0:35:39.295 --> 0:35:42.255 a solution for you. And then there are a couple 0:35:42.295 --> 0:35:46.335 of you know, professional companies that will come out and 0:35:46.575 --> 0:35:51.855 do the job for you as well, who apply waterproof 0:35:51.935 --> 0:35:55.895 solutions that will keep moisture in the slab, and again, 0:35:55.975 --> 0:35:57.775 do a little bit of research around which one you 0:35:57.895 --> 0:36:03.135 want and the compatibility. If you had the space, you 0:36:03.175 --> 0:36:06.655 could actually pour another slab over the top, it would 0:36:06.735 --> 0:36:10.855 need to be at least seventy eighty millimeters thick for 0:36:10.975 --> 0:36:14.135 it not to crack on its own, so that may 0:36:14.215 --> 0:36:16.775 not be a great solution. I think often people have 0:36:16.855 --> 0:36:18.695 got like a two point four start in the thought 0:36:18.735 --> 0:36:21.655 of pouring another one hundred slab over the top. Yes, 0:36:21.895 --> 0:36:25.935 it's not that great, So there are some solutions out there. 0:36:25.975 --> 0:36:27.335 I think you're on the right track in terms of 0:36:27.415 --> 0:36:33.415 doing the research, but you know, yeah, there are solutions 0:36:33.455 --> 0:36:39.575 for you, so Crystaline solutions, vapor barriers or a proprietary one. 0:36:40.055 --> 0:36:42.135 So get a company in like Armtek or someone like 0:36:42.215 --> 0:36:44.295 that to come and do it. Good luck with all 0:36:44.335 --> 0:36:46.015 of that. It is ten minutes away from seveny to 0:36:46.055 --> 0:36:47.735 take another short break. We'll be back with Don in 0:36:47.855 --> 0:36:48.295 just a moment. 0:36:50.295 --> 0:36:52.335 Squeaky door or squeaky floor. 0:36:52.895 --> 0:36:56.295 Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcare the resident builder 0:36:56.495 --> 0:37:00.055 with light force solar, save on solar and earn airpoints 0:37:00.095 --> 0:37:00.775 dollars used. 0:37:00.815 --> 0:37:03.695 Talks B your News Talks B and Don A very 0:37:03.735 --> 0:37:04.335 good morning to you. 0:37:05.415 --> 0:37:07.815 Good morning Pee, take pleasure to talk to you as 0:37:07.855 --> 0:37:11.895 well to you Peter. I think that I think that 0:37:11.975 --> 0:37:14.135 you can rely on the National government. You said you'd 0:37:14.175 --> 0:37:16.775 welcome but to talk on the politics, so let's get 0:37:16.815 --> 0:37:18.535 into it. I think you can rely on the National 0:37:18.615 --> 0:37:22.975 government to be a bit disruptive, disruptive of patch protection 0:37:24.335 --> 0:37:28.055 that tends to accumulate when you've got a long time 0:37:28.175 --> 0:37:32.535 in left wing governments. There's some brilliant outcomes from some 0:37:32.655 --> 0:37:35.495 of the changes the Minister has already signaled. We've been 0:37:35.535 --> 0:37:39.335 looking at a build over on the West coast in 0:37:39.415 --> 0:37:41.695 a remote area, and one of the things we've been 0:37:41.735 --> 0:37:45.495 exploring is importing some windows from China, which of course 0:37:45.535 --> 0:37:47.615 the new regulations have opened up the door to be 0:37:47.655 --> 0:37:50.615 able to do that, and just looking at the windows, 0:37:50.695 --> 0:37:56.055 in my understanding is they have Pete and I'm not 0:37:56.295 --> 0:37:59.615 an expert in the space, and the gentleman that's doing 0:37:59.695 --> 0:38:03.215 this particular part of the exercise definitely is an expert, 0:38:03.215 --> 0:38:06.135 and he wouldn't be doing anything that isn't actually co 0:38:06.455 --> 0:38:09.135 because he's pretty good at checking those regulations. That's part 0:38:09.175 --> 0:38:11.415 of his point of difference in what he does. Sure, 0:38:12.895 --> 0:38:16.135 And we looked at the different quotes from locally in 0:38:16.255 --> 0:38:18.895 China and had a look at the fact there's twenty 0:38:18.975 --> 0:38:23.175 to thirty percent difference in those in the pricing. 0:38:23.375 --> 0:38:25.135 So it's a bit of a. 0:38:26.655 --> 0:38:31.455 Swings and roundabouts. I think Pete that the insulation might 0:38:31.535 --> 0:38:33.975 be costing a little bit more in one space, but 0:38:34.095 --> 0:38:37.055 the opportunity to change up building materials and level out 0:38:37.095 --> 0:38:40.615 those costs again in the other space, So I don't 0:38:40.655 --> 0:38:41.935 think the sky is falling. 0:38:42.215 --> 0:38:43.295 I recalled back. 0:38:43.175 --> 0:38:45.295 To sort of thirty years ago when we started or 0:38:45.335 --> 0:38:47.695 forty years ago when we started looking at their regulation 0:38:47.855 --> 0:38:50.735 in New Zealand, and a lot of screaming about how 0:38:50.815 --> 0:38:53.695 the sky was going to fall. Well, we're forty years 0:38:53.775 --> 0:38:56.415 on and the sky certainly hasn't fallen. But that doesn't 0:38:56.455 --> 0:38:57.855 mean you don't need to be cautious. 0:38:58.655 --> 0:39:00.415 Except what about leaky buildings? 0:39:02.295 --> 0:39:04.055 Yeah, now I was going to see that. 0:39:04.175 --> 0:39:07.135 Next you had a leaky building. The sky's falling quite literally. 0:39:08.055 --> 0:39:11.375 Yeah, that's absolutely right, And that came about. That came 0:39:11.455 --> 0:39:15.135 about a lot because we changed up the way that 0:39:15.335 --> 0:39:19.055 we designed buildings. And then we got some people who 0:39:19.095 --> 0:39:20.535 are quite good at what they were doing, but we 0:39:20.655 --> 0:39:23.695 got a lot of me too, people joining the bandwagon 0:39:23.775 --> 0:39:25.735 as well. It didn't know what they were doing. And 0:39:26.095 --> 0:39:31.175 then designers just simply didn't design flashings and all of 0:39:31.255 --> 0:39:34.135 those other bits to an appropriate standard. So we had 0:39:34.175 --> 0:39:35.575 to lift up those standards. 0:39:36.615 --> 0:39:39.815 I've got one minute before the news, go for it. 0:39:39.895 --> 0:39:43.015 Sure your most salient point R. 0:39:43.175 --> 0:39:46.335 Two, R two point six and walls and R four 0:39:46.415 --> 0:39:50.895 point for R four in ceilings is more than enough 0:39:50.935 --> 0:39:53.815 where I live in Canterbury. But I agree that a 0:39:53.855 --> 0:39:56.575 brush a broad stroke across the whole country to go 0:39:56.695 --> 0:40:00.055 to R seven and R four is a bridge too 0:40:00.135 --> 0:40:02.935 far in the north, and possibly not far enough in 0:40:03.015 --> 0:40:06.655 the Deep South. So I think overall we're in good hands. 0:40:06.735 --> 0:40:10.215 But my last point would be on councils and inspections. 0:40:10.295 --> 0:40:13.255 I think that fee for service guys. I think that 0:40:13.655 --> 0:40:17.935 if the councils can offer up that you can have 0:40:18.295 --> 0:40:21.135 if you want to buy it, on site, inspectors to 0:40:21.215 --> 0:40:24.255 do your checking so you've got security of knowing you've 0:40:24.295 --> 0:40:26.815 had someone have a look, right, then I think councils 0:40:26.895 --> 0:40:29.295 need to get busy and make those services available even 0:40:29.335 --> 0:40:31.895 if they're not required, because I know I'd want to buy. 0:40:31.895 --> 0:40:36.935 That as a value. Add interesting point, Yeah, absolutely, interesting point, fascinate. 0:40:37.015 --> 0:40:41.535 Thank you Don much appreciated, great ideas. Take care. Look, 0:40:41.695 --> 0:40:43.815 the occasional shakeup is not a bad thing as long 0:40:43.855 --> 0:40:46.175 as we get good outcomes. We're going to talk to 0:40:46.255 --> 0:40:48.175 Paul and to Bruce after the news. If you'd like 0:40:48.215 --> 0:40:50.255 to join us, call us now eight hundred and eighty 0:40:50.415 --> 0:40:52.415 ten eighty here News Talk said. 0:41:00.015 --> 0:41:03.935 Helping you get those DIY projects done right the resident 0:41:03.975 --> 0:41:07.575 builder with Peter wolfcap and light your solar get your 0:41:07.655 --> 0:41:10.215 solar saber pack Now News Talks. 0:41:09.975 --> 0:41:12.935 That'd be taking your calls this morning on all things 0:41:13.015 --> 0:41:21.295 building construction, DIY renovations, alterations new builds and compliance and regulation. 0:41:21.575 --> 0:41:25.055 So we've I mentioned at the beginning of the program 0:41:25.135 --> 0:41:28.495 that it's hard to recall a time in recent memory, 0:41:28.695 --> 0:41:30.535 and given I've been doing this show for ten years 0:41:30.575 --> 0:41:34.175 where building has not been such a political issue in 0:41:34.295 --> 0:41:37.815 the sense that obviously with a coalition government that's come 0:41:37.855 --> 0:41:42.055 into power, they're looking at regulation, they're looking at housing affordability, 0:41:42.135 --> 0:41:45.255 they're looking at housing supply, and they're going, it's not 0:41:45.615 --> 0:41:48.215 really working. We kind of all know that it's not 0:41:48.335 --> 0:41:51.135 really working. So what can we do? What levers can 0:41:51.215 --> 0:41:56.015 we pull to change it? And out of that has 0:41:56.095 --> 0:41:59.495 come a whole bunch of changes to regulation, So changing 0:42:00.775 --> 0:42:04.135 or proposing that let's say, granny flats up to sixty 0:42:04.215 --> 0:42:07.815 square meters could be built without necesscessarily requiring a building 0:42:07.895 --> 0:42:10.575 consent or a resource consent, and then there's a whole 0:42:10.615 --> 0:42:12.975 lot of it's like a drop down menu. Next to 0:42:13.055 --> 0:42:16.455 it is a whole lot of if if, and then 0:42:16.535 --> 0:42:20.415 you can come out with it. That's just I've just 0:42:20.495 --> 0:42:24.975 remembered something that I was going to do. I love 0:42:25.055 --> 0:42:29.535 the occasional completely unscientific text pole, So this was something 0:42:29.575 --> 0:42:31.055 I was thinking about during the course of the week, 0:42:31.055 --> 0:42:32.575 and I'll come to the calls in moment, but I'd 0:42:32.655 --> 0:42:34.095 like to do this with you this morning on the 0:42:34.175 --> 0:42:38.255 show through till about eight fifteen. So the text the 0:42:38.735 --> 0:42:44.295 moot is could you build? Could do you have the space? 0:42:44.415 --> 0:42:49.175 Could you build a sixty square meter granny flat on 0:42:49.495 --> 0:42:54.135 your property? So think about where you live right now 0:42:55.095 --> 0:42:58.455 and text me yes or no. Could you put a 0:42:58.575 --> 0:43:04.735 sixty square meter granny flat on your property that would 0:43:04.775 --> 0:43:08.455 be compliant with the regulations. So, for example, it needs 0:43:08.495 --> 0:43:10.815 to be the height of the building away from a 0:43:10.935 --> 0:43:16.815 boundary or from an adjacent building. That's probably the biggest one, right, 0:43:16.935 --> 0:43:18.735 and it has to go in the rear yard and 0:43:18.855 --> 0:43:20.775 you can only put one of them in. Could you 0:43:20.975 --> 0:43:23.815 do it at your house? The reason for my question is, 0:43:24.495 --> 0:43:28.375 while it's been floated as an answer to housing affordability 0:43:28.415 --> 0:43:31.975 and housing supply, I suspect that the number of properties 0:43:32.015 --> 0:43:36.215 where it could actually go is tiny. So will its 0:43:36.255 --> 0:43:37.095 impact be great? 0:43:37.495 --> 0:43:37.535 No? 0:43:37.695 --> 0:43:40.415 I don't think it will be because there's just not 0:43:40.535 --> 0:43:43.055 that many properties around where you could do it, certainly 0:43:43.175 --> 0:43:46.295 not an urban center. So again text me right now 0:43:46.535 --> 0:43:50.575 nine two ninety two if you wanted to, could you 0:43:51.095 --> 0:43:55.695 put a sixty square meter granny flat on your property 0:43:56.455 --> 0:43:59.295 and it be compliant. So we'll run that text during 0:43:59.375 --> 0:44:01.375 the course of the program. Oh, eight hundred and eighty 0:44:01.455 --> 0:44:03.855 ten eighty is the number to call, and we'll try 0:44:04.295 --> 0:44:07.095 and keep a tally of that as well. That's going 0:44:07.175 --> 0:44:14.615 to be the hard but so far, yes, no, yes, no, yes, interesting, No, 0:44:14.895 --> 0:44:16.935 I'm on a seven hundred and twelve square meter section. 0:44:17.175 --> 0:44:20.255 Fair enough, Okay, that's going to run alongside the rest 0:44:20.295 --> 0:44:23.175 of the program. Paul, good morning, welcome, Yeah. 0:44:23.055 --> 0:44:27.815 Good morning, Peter. Hey, my questions not regarding the granny flats, 0:44:27.855 --> 0:44:30.895 but no, no, I'm just running that as a sideline. 0:44:31.055 --> 0:44:33.335 Basically, I've got a side hustle going. That's what it is. 0:44:33.455 --> 0:44:35.575 Now, that's all right, But I do have a question 0:44:36.095 --> 0:44:40.095 regarding that, just after listening to your comments. So not 0:44:40.655 --> 0:44:44.015 needing a resource consent, how do we get on with plumbing? 0:44:44.215 --> 0:44:47.695 If I guess if you're using a license building practitioner, 0:44:47.815 --> 0:44:51.815 he can build without the resource consent, and I'm assuming 0:44:51.855 --> 0:44:55.495 if the plumber is licensed, he can probably plumb without 0:44:56.375 --> 0:45:00.175 a resource consent as well. So I'm picking that would 0:45:00.175 --> 0:45:02.935 be the process that would occur if you were building 0:45:03.815 --> 0:45:04.655 such a small. 0:45:04.495 --> 0:45:09.295 Dwelling to be fair. That's I don't know that they're 0:45:09.375 --> 0:45:12.655 terribly clear on that. The idea would be because and 0:45:12.775 --> 0:45:15.135 it's not about resource consent, it's about building consent for 0:45:15.175 --> 0:45:18.815 those types of things. So let's say you did build 0:45:18.935 --> 0:45:21.495 a granny flat in the backyard, and obviously you'd want 0:45:21.535 --> 0:45:25.775 to connect the toilet up to the wastewater supply, and 0:45:25.895 --> 0:45:29.495 typically that work needs a building consent because plumbing is 0:45:29.655 --> 0:45:33.375 underneath the building consent. However, plumbers and drain layers are 0:45:33.655 --> 0:45:37.815 effectively their license right, which allows them to self certify 0:45:37.935 --> 0:45:40.455 to some degree. So as long as the work was 0:45:40.535 --> 0:45:45.415 done by a licensed drain layer to the requirements, that 0:45:45.535 --> 0:45:48.695 should be okay, right, and that person should be able 0:45:48.735 --> 0:45:50.695 to issue you with a record of works or a 0:45:50.735 --> 0:45:53.975 producer statement saying I've done the work, here's the as built, 0:45:54.335 --> 0:45:56.935 and the work complies with the building code in terms 0:45:56.975 --> 0:45:59.535 of the connections and how it all links together and 0:45:59.735 --> 0:46:02.295 venting and so on and so forth. I guess what's 0:46:02.375 --> 0:46:06.255 difficult is council then don't have a way of controlling 0:46:06.815 --> 0:46:10.655 how many new connections will go into their existing storm 0:46:10.735 --> 0:46:14.535 water or wastewater systems which may already be stretched. 0:46:14.775 --> 0:46:17.855 That's going to be the challenge, right, Yeah, no, that 0:46:18.015 --> 0:46:20.455 makes sense. So yeah, obviously something will have to happen 0:46:20.535 --> 0:46:25.015 to moderate that sort of thing. But anyway, Peter, what 0:46:25.135 --> 0:46:29.255 I've ringing about primarily is I've got a I've got 0:46:29.295 --> 0:46:33.335 a what was an industrial site with a huge block 0:46:33.415 --> 0:46:40.735 of or level concrete area which I think is exceptionally thick. Yes, 0:46:41.615 --> 0:46:43.215 I want to put a shed on top of it, 0:46:44.175 --> 0:46:46.735 but I think for me to pull the concrete up, 0:46:46.855 --> 0:46:49.095 it's going to be a nightmare. And it's in really 0:46:49.175 --> 0:46:49.815 good repair. 0:46:50.135 --> 0:46:50.335 Yep. 0:46:51.175 --> 0:46:55.335 I'm picking without doing any drilling or anything. I'm picking. 0:46:55.375 --> 0:46:58.535 It's probably about two or three hundred deep. It was 0:46:58.615 --> 0:47:03.415 an industrial site, so I don't think there'd be any 0:47:03.495 --> 0:47:07.375 issues if I put a shed on with regards the 0:47:07.495 --> 0:47:10.615 concrete not being strong enough or you know, it's probably 0:47:10.695 --> 0:47:11.375 at a foot. 0:47:11.175 --> 0:47:13.615 In depth, yeah, all over it. 0:47:13.735 --> 0:47:16.295 But how do I prove that to the counsel if 0:47:16.335 --> 0:47:20.255 I want to put a shad on top And obviously 0:47:20.335 --> 0:47:23.775 I have no issue putting a new poor over the 0:47:23.895 --> 0:47:27.295 top of the existence, but I don't. 0:47:27.335 --> 0:47:30.535 Think it will come down to specific design. So you'll 0:47:30.535 --> 0:47:33.735 need to get an engineer to come and maybe they 0:47:33.815 --> 0:47:36.855 will do some a couple of cord drills through the 0:47:36.935 --> 0:47:41.535 existing slab to determine its thickness. If you happen to 0:47:41.655 --> 0:47:43.775 have any photographs of it when it was laid, you know, 0:47:44.015 --> 0:47:47.055 is there some mession at any documentation about what type 0:47:47.055 --> 0:47:50.015 of concrete it was, et cetera, et cetera. But it 0:47:50.095 --> 0:47:53.815 will come down to specific design. So again, someone will 0:47:53.855 --> 0:47:57.575 come do some exploratory drilling. I suspect maybe what they'll 0:47:57.615 --> 0:47:59.455 end up doing is saying, actually, we think that the 0:47:59.535 --> 0:48:04.615 bearing capacity is you know, enormous more than compacted hardfill. 0:48:05.095 --> 0:48:07.455 And therefore you could up a slab on the top, 0:48:07.575 --> 0:48:09.415 come up one hundred and fifty mil, which will give 0:48:09.415 --> 0:48:12.015 you a threshold that you need for you know, water 0:48:12.855 --> 0:48:15.455 and so on. Box that up on top, box that 0:48:15.615 --> 0:48:19.935 level because chances are the existing driveways not level, and 0:48:20.175 --> 0:48:22.735 then with mesh and maybe you need to anchor it 0:48:22.815 --> 0:48:26.135 down with a couple of cares and then build on top. 0:48:26.175 --> 0:48:28.495 But it'll be specific design from an engineer. 0:48:29.775 --> 0:48:34.015 Okay, you know what would that be, like a geotech. 0:48:33.575 --> 0:48:37.655 Or a geotech would probably want to be involved, but no, 0:48:37.735 --> 0:48:39.615 it would be a structural engineer primarily. 0:48:40.455 --> 0:48:44.095 Okay, that's cool, I'll give them a try, and hey, 0:48:44.175 --> 0:48:45.615 thanks very much, all the best for your time. 0:48:45.815 --> 0:48:48.935 Okay man, right, all the best, Thank you, take care. 0:48:50.175 --> 0:48:52.215 Someone's saying I've got the wrong question. The question should 0:48:52.215 --> 0:48:54.295 be do you have room to build a granny fait 0:48:54.375 --> 0:48:59.615 of thirty to sixty square meters in your backyard? Now, 0:48:59.655 --> 0:49:02.095 I'll stick with sixty square meters because that's what the 0:49:02.175 --> 0:49:08.695 maximum is going to be for simplicity. Surprising number of yeses, 0:49:09.975 --> 0:49:11.935 but it's things like, Yes, I'm on a ten acre 0:49:11.975 --> 0:49:13.655 block and I want to retire. My family are coming 0:49:13.695 --> 0:49:15.895 home after fifteen years overseas, and I could move into 0:49:15.935 --> 0:49:18.175 the and they could move into the family home. Perfect 0:49:18.215 --> 0:49:21.775 solution for me. True, but you're on ten acres. No 0:49:22.015 --> 0:49:23.335 small section, North Auckland. 0:49:23.415 --> 0:49:23.455 No. 0:49:23.615 --> 0:49:25.935 Two hundred and thirty square meter house on six hundred 0:49:25.975 --> 0:49:28.375 square meters already the shape and position of the house 0:49:28.375 --> 0:49:32.775 gives no room in the backyard. Yes, two thousand square 0:49:32.815 --> 0:49:35.735 meter section we subdivided from our large five bedroom home 0:49:36.215 --> 0:49:38.695 due to the husband losing a job through COVID. Thank 0:49:38.735 --> 0:49:39.455 you very much for that. 0:49:39.615 --> 0:49:39.655 No. 0:49:39.855 --> 0:49:43.015 Nine hundred square meter section underground sewer down the middle 0:49:43.055 --> 0:49:45.935 of the section. Distance from the boundaries is the issue 0:49:48.735 --> 0:49:52.535 so interesting? So we're running a little pole completely totally 0:49:52.815 --> 0:49:57.735 absolutely unscientific pole the very best kind I find. Could 0:49:57.855 --> 0:50:02.055 you build a sixty square meter granny flat on your 0:50:02.135 --> 0:50:05.655 property as per the proposals? Bruce, good morning? How are 0:50:05.655 --> 0:50:05.935 you doing? 0:50:06.335 --> 0:50:09.895 Wanting better answers to your text? No, I can't. Was 0:50:09.895 --> 0:50:10.735 already four here? 0:50:11.895 --> 0:50:12.215 All right? 0:50:12.255 --> 0:50:12.935 No, get greedy? 0:50:14.855 --> 0:50:15.015 Right? 0:50:15.095 --> 0:50:16.655 How can I help? What's up? 0:50:16.895 --> 0:50:17.175 Okay? 0:50:17.575 --> 0:50:21.895 This is a legal situation. I'm calling on behalf of 0:50:22.775 --> 0:50:29.535 friends who sold their home August last year. Just prior 0:50:29.735 --> 0:50:32.375 to selling, in fact, we had to delay the first 0:50:33.015 --> 0:50:37.615 open home. A common dwelling wall the three units on 0:50:37.655 --> 0:50:40.975 this property. This particular unit is the third one and 0:50:41.055 --> 0:50:43.815 the lowest one of the three. Harricky corner you go 0:50:43.935 --> 0:50:50.015 past it every day, and the common wall leaked. This 0:50:50.255 --> 0:50:55.135 was leaked July. Yeah, and there was no obvious area 0:50:55.255 --> 0:50:59.295 where it came through. The reason I'm starting, I don't 0:50:59.335 --> 0:51:01.215 quite know where to start on the story. The new 0:51:01.255 --> 0:51:04.855 owners have actually taken these my friends to the tribunal, 0:51:05.255 --> 0:51:08.495 and I'm sort of backwards. So then it leaked again 0:51:09.895 --> 0:51:12.295 three weeks later, after new carpet had been put down, 0:51:12.375 --> 0:51:15.935 because we just couldn't decide, couldn't pond where the hell 0:51:15.975 --> 0:51:18.735 the problem we came through the second time, it was 0:51:18.895 --> 0:51:21.855 obvious and it was the stormwater on the drive side 0:51:21.895 --> 0:51:26.575 of the house that was repaired and it was a 0:51:26.655 --> 0:51:29.975 massive it was about one hundred mils gap in the 0:51:30.975 --> 0:51:31.775 stormwater pipe. 0:51:33.455 --> 0:51:33.695 Yeah. 0:51:34.455 --> 0:51:38.775 Anyway, so the house was duly sold, all the problems 0:51:38.855 --> 0:51:46.735 were highlighted, and then we didn't know but the house 0:51:46.855 --> 0:51:53.135 leaked again. The same wall leaked again New Year's weekend. Yeah, 0:51:53.855 --> 0:51:56.655 but there wasn't until three months later. So we're talking 0:51:56.735 --> 0:52:02.055 now talking early well, mid March that my friends got 0:52:02.415 --> 0:52:06.735 a bill out of the blue for thirteen thousand dollars, 0:52:06.895 --> 0:52:11.895 no explanation, not yeah, and there was no room for discussion. 0:52:12.935 --> 0:52:15.975 They set this fill through the lawyers that did the 0:52:16.055 --> 0:52:18.175 transaction on the house, and of course they were no 0:52:18.615 --> 0:52:20.335 ferry to do anything with it, sat on it for 0:52:20.415 --> 0:52:24.335 three weeks subsequently, the time's gone on, but they didn't 0:52:26.095 --> 0:52:30.335 so the owners didn't have the contact details for as 0:52:30.895 --> 0:52:36.255 old owners. Anyway, it's now taken us to the tribunal. 0:52:36.975 --> 0:52:39.895 When you say taking us to the tribunal, what tribunal 0:52:39.975 --> 0:52:40.735 do you refer to. 0:52:41.775 --> 0:52:49.615 Well, it's just the normal tribunal, very small yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:52:51.375 --> 0:52:56.695 claiming that and it's very vague in how they presented 0:52:57.415 --> 0:53:03.535 any figure between six and twelve thousand dollars. Trying to understand, 0:53:03.895 --> 0:53:09.775 But my belief is they should have notified the owners 0:53:10.575 --> 0:53:13.975 or the old owners the time of the incident that 0:53:14.095 --> 0:53:16.415 there was a problem, and hey, we're going to have 0:53:16.655 --> 0:53:19.695 we've notified you now. Now there's room for discussions on 0:53:19.775 --> 0:53:23.695 the track. But now they've had the thing repaired. Now 0:53:23.735 --> 0:53:26.015 they're coming in and saying, right, we're going to hit 0:53:26.055 --> 0:53:32.615 you with this bill. Any views. I've spoken to a 0:53:32.775 --> 0:53:35.695 number of people. Everyone up and just says, no, that's 0:53:35.775 --> 0:53:36.175 not right. 0:53:36.335 --> 0:53:39.655 Yeah, ultimately, I mean, ultimately you and your friends should 0:53:39.695 --> 0:53:42.215 seek legal advice. But can I just to summarize it, 0:53:42.255 --> 0:53:43.375 and I don't want to spend too long on this. 0:53:43.855 --> 0:53:46.695 So the people that you are friends with, they owned 0:53:46.775 --> 0:53:50.495 that property and then they sold it and the new 0:53:50.615 --> 0:53:54.935 owners have discovered a leak and they have then had 0:53:55.015 --> 0:53:57.375 some work done and they've sent them the bill for 0:53:57.495 --> 0:53:57.815 the work. 0:53:58.655 --> 0:53:58.975 Correct. 0:53:59.215 --> 0:54:03.255 Okay, at the time when your friends sold the property, 0:54:03.415 --> 0:54:07.615 did they were they aware of any issues around leak? Like, 0:54:07.855 --> 0:54:09.895 genuinely not aware of any issues. 0:54:10.735 --> 0:54:13.815 No, there was two leaks and they were repaired and 0:54:13.935 --> 0:54:17.415 they were repaired professionally. The guy took photos of the repair, 0:54:18.055 --> 0:54:20.255 so that was and they were not defied of that, and. 0:54:21.975 --> 0:54:24.015 That was that was declared at the time of the 0:54:24.095 --> 0:54:24.855 Salem purchase. 0:54:25.695 --> 0:54:31.415 Correct, Okay, and I'm spoken with legal people and they 0:54:31.535 --> 0:54:34.415 are tearing their areat that's what I thought. I'm running 0:54:34.455 --> 0:54:34.655 out of. 0:54:35.455 --> 0:54:35.655 Yeah. 0:54:35.815 --> 0:54:39.935 Look, I'm not going to venture into this. I mean, 0:54:40.095 --> 0:54:42.455 I shouldn't write because I'm not a lawyer, but I 0:54:42.575 --> 0:54:45.335 would have thought that from everything that I've read about 0:54:45.375 --> 0:54:47.895 these sorts of disputes, it often centers on whether or 0:54:47.935 --> 0:54:51.855 not there is the duty to declare right and to disclose. 0:54:51.975 --> 0:54:54.775 So if if, for example, there'd been a persistent leak, 0:54:55.175 --> 0:54:57.295 your friends had tried to fix it, they kind of 0:54:57.375 --> 0:54:59.535 hoped that they'd got it fixed, but you never really 0:54:59.615 --> 0:55:02.535 know until it rains again, and then they didn't declare 0:55:02.615 --> 0:55:06.095 that at the Salem purchase or at the time of negotiation, 0:55:07.015 --> 0:55:09.895 and then at leaked you'd understand that the new purchaser 0:55:10.015 --> 0:55:13.095 would want to go them for some costs. Saying that. 0:55:14.575 --> 0:55:20.255 My understanding also of remedial work is let's say I'm 0:55:20.335 --> 0:55:22.615 the client and I don't do a great job. I'm 0:55:22.655 --> 0:55:24.375 the builder and I don't do a great job. For 0:55:24.415 --> 0:55:26.935 a client, and they decide to get someone in to 0:55:27.055 --> 0:55:29.255 fix it, and then they send me the bill and go, 0:55:29.415 --> 0:55:31.935 you have to pay for that. I don't have to 0:55:31.975 --> 0:55:34.575 pay it because they didn't give me the opportunity of 0:55:34.615 --> 0:55:38.095 fixing it. So I wonder whether the claim might be 0:55:38.255 --> 0:55:41.415 struck out because they didn't. You can't just send someone 0:55:41.455 --> 0:55:43.215 a bill for work if you haven't told them you're 0:55:43.255 --> 0:55:46.735 going to have the work done exactly. That's kind of 0:55:46.735 --> 0:55:49.375 where I would be, But hey, look I ain't no lawyer, 0:55:50.015 --> 0:55:54.335 so I'll take a step back from there. Good luck 0:55:54.375 --> 0:55:55.695 with that, and good on you for being such a 0:55:55.735 --> 0:56:00.415 good mate to those people. I might have a cruise by, righty, Oh, 0:56:00.495 --> 0:56:02.175 we'll take a short break. We'll talk to Paul in 0:56:02.295 --> 0:56:03.815 just a moment if you'd like to join us. We're 0:56:03.815 --> 0:56:06.735 talking building, We're talking nuts and bolt stuff, doing an 0:56:07.215 --> 0:56:12.775 enormously unscientific, unreliable pole. Could you put a sixty square 0:56:12.855 --> 0:56:16.135 meter my granny flat? Because that's the way that the 0:56:16.215 --> 0:56:19.935 legislation is referring to it on your existing property. The 0:56:20.015 --> 0:56:22.015 person that texts me and goes, how many could I 0:56:22.095 --> 0:56:24.695 put on eighty eight acres? 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If you've got a question, eight hundred 0:57:51.775 --> 0:57:53.975 eighty ten eighty is the number to call. I'm loving 0:57:54.055 --> 0:58:00.695 the responses to the I quite genuinely, I'm surprised the 0:58:00.815 --> 0:58:03.215 number of people that have been able to reply yes 0:58:03.375 --> 0:58:06.775 to my question. My question is could you put a 0:58:07.335 --> 0:58:09.495 up to sixty square meet let's call it a sixty 0:58:09.535 --> 0:58:11.935 square met of granny flat on the property that you're 0:58:12.015 --> 0:58:17.615 in right now? And I think right now more people 0:58:17.655 --> 0:58:20.095 have said yes than not, which intrigues me. Paul A, 0:58:20.215 --> 0:58:20.975 very good morning to you. 0:58:22.055 --> 0:58:27.775 Good morning bye. My issue is I've got a nineteen 0:58:27.895 --> 0:58:32.775 seventies eighties townhouse which had some main major renovations done 0:58:32.775 --> 0:58:37.615 about seven years ago, and included that was a bathroom 0:58:37.615 --> 0:58:41.855 for out which is upstairs, and the bathroom has got 0:58:41.975 --> 0:58:46.175 floor to ceiling tiles. Yes, And a few weeks ago 0:58:46.415 --> 0:58:48.935 I noticed that there was a damp area in the 0:58:49.055 --> 0:58:54.935 carpet as she walked into the bathroom. Right, so I 0:58:55.735 --> 0:58:57.535 and we went away from those weeks up dried out 0:58:57.535 --> 0:58:59.415 a bit, so I had a bit more of an investigation. 0:59:00.215 --> 0:59:02.215 And also what I did not is when I lifted 0:59:02.255 --> 0:59:04.575 the carpet in this area there was a few ants. 0:59:05.135 --> 0:59:07.855 So anyway, I went and looked in the shower and 0:59:08.015 --> 0:59:10.895 I found a small hole in the grout where the 0:59:12.415 --> 0:59:18.255 wall and the floor neat, probably outside of our cloud head. 0:59:20.055 --> 0:59:23.135 And I also noticed one of demands probably coming from 0:59:23.175 --> 0:59:30.695 that hole. So, yeah, I've got this leak in the ground. Well, 0:59:30.735 --> 0:59:32.495 I've only found the one hole. I mean that might 0:59:32.575 --> 0:59:35.535 be a little bit more, but I'm not sure. What 0:59:35.615 --> 0:59:38.095 would you suggest. I don't want to fix it myself 0:59:39.135 --> 0:59:42.735 because I don't think I'm capable, But how would you 0:59:42.815 --> 0:59:43.415 approach this? 0:59:47.335 --> 0:59:52.295 The bad newsers, the groud's not the problem, right, So 0:59:52.415 --> 0:59:57.375 groud's not really there to keep water out. The waterproofing 0:59:57.775 --> 1:00:01.735 compound or the waterproofing system beyond the groud is what 1:00:01.935 --> 1:00:08.375 should be containing the spread of moisture. So h m hm, 1:00:09.055 --> 1:00:11.535 given that the work was done seven years ago, did 1:00:11.655 --> 1:00:12.615 you have the work done? 1:00:14.095 --> 1:00:14.135 So? 1:00:15.295 --> 1:00:15.855 I had a. 1:00:18.175 --> 1:00:25.415 I had a project manager and she the builders were 1:00:25.575 --> 1:00:26.535 contracted to me. 1:00:26.895 --> 1:00:28.255 The major. 1:00:29.535 --> 1:00:35.255 Like the electrician, the builder were contracted to me, so 1:00:35.335 --> 1:00:36.735 I signed an agreement with them. 1:00:38.575 --> 1:00:42.415 Okay, did the work require a building consent at the time, 1:00:42.575 --> 1:00:44.375 or did you get a building consent for the work. 1:00:45.935 --> 1:00:48.575 That's that's that I'm not sure about, because I left 1:00:48.615 --> 1:00:55.495 that up to her. All the stuff I sort of record. 1:00:55.695 --> 1:00:58.855 I believe that I do recall something about the ceiling 1:00:58.935 --> 1:00:59.615 being done, you know. 1:01:00.175 --> 1:01:07.895 Yeah, the waterproof and yeah, so okay. So I think 1:01:07.935 --> 1:01:09.815 the long the short of it is there's a failure 1:01:09.935 --> 1:01:14.295 of the waterproofing and that you've got leaking either in 1:01:14.375 --> 1:01:17.975 the shower or an in adjacent area. Now, given that 1:01:18.055 --> 1:01:20.295 the work was done about seven years ago, I would 1:01:20.335 --> 1:01:22.415 be on the phone to the person who was the 1:01:22.495 --> 1:01:25.615 project manager. They will probably try and run for the hills. 1:01:25.735 --> 1:01:30.375 Then I talk to the builder and I would check 1:01:30.415 --> 1:01:33.095 whether or not that builder is a licensed building practitioner, 1:01:34.015 --> 1:01:39.975 and I would remind them of their obligations to basically 1:01:40.135 --> 1:01:43.295 stand by their work right, and it's sort of an 1:01:43.335 --> 1:01:46.735 implied warranty is that things should last for at least 1:01:46.775 --> 1:01:50.015 ten years, and you're within that ten year window. So 1:01:50.255 --> 1:01:53.375 that's where I would start project manager first, then onto 1:01:53.415 --> 1:01:56.215 the builder. The builder, if that's who you paid the 1:01:56.295 --> 1:02:01.215 bill to, I think is still responsible and liable for 1:02:01.295 --> 1:02:05.015 the work. They then would need to come out and investigate. 1:02:06.375 --> 1:02:11.095 If they are still in business with the waterproofer or 1:02:11.175 --> 1:02:14.015 the tyler, they could then get them on board. But 1:02:14.135 --> 1:02:17.975 I would start there before you start investigating yourself. 1:02:18.535 --> 1:02:20.975 Yeah, so that tyler was independent to be in so 1:02:21.135 --> 1:02:26.255 that the project managers. Sure, smaller people involved. So but 1:02:26.935 --> 1:02:31.415 as you're saying, it's actually it's it's the builder. It's 1:02:31.455 --> 1:02:32.855 not so much the tiler here. 1:02:33.775 --> 1:02:36.495 It's it's who you paid, basically is where I would 1:02:36.535 --> 1:02:39.575 start with. So if if the invoice from the builder 1:02:39.735 --> 1:02:43.455 included the tyler's work, then I would. I would chase 1:02:43.495 --> 1:02:46.735 the builder. If you've got a separate invoice directly from 1:02:46.775 --> 1:02:50.135 the tyler who may or may not have done the waterproofing, 1:02:50.575 --> 1:02:54.215 then I would. I would do that. So I'd start 1:02:54.255 --> 1:02:56.695 there and then try that and then give me a 1:02:56.775 --> 1:02:58.855 call back and let me know if you if you 1:02:58.895 --> 1:03:01.015 don't have any luck with that, then we'll try some 1:03:01.135 --> 1:03:03.735 other avenues. But I would start there, you know, as 1:03:03.895 --> 1:03:07.775 as lbps and as business owners responsible for our work. Right, 1:03:07.935 --> 1:03:13.375 and showers shouldn't leak after seven years, you know, should 1:03:13.375 --> 1:03:17.695 they leak after twenty? Ideally not, but it's probably not unreasonable. 1:03:18.455 --> 1:03:21.495 But after seven years, I think you need to pursue them, 1:03:22.735 --> 1:03:25.015 So start there and good luck with it because it's 1:03:25.055 --> 1:03:27.255 a hell of a journey race. Good morning to you, 1:03:28.615 --> 1:03:29.495 Hey Pete. 1:03:29.295 --> 1:03:30.415 Hey mate, love your work. 1:03:30.575 --> 1:03:31.015 Thank you, Bud. 1:03:32.855 --> 1:03:34.935 My questions around your credit flat? 1:03:35.215 --> 1:03:37.055 Yeah, g flat situation. 1:03:37.295 --> 1:03:39.455 So I moved into my place about six years ago. 1:03:40.175 --> 1:03:42.455 It was an existing shed on it twelve by seven 1:03:42.535 --> 1:03:47.535 sheep ten sheet on concrete slaven. It was already split 1:03:47.615 --> 1:03:50.535 in half on the internally, so that had a wall 1:03:50.615 --> 1:03:51.655 put up at about. 1:03:53.935 --> 1:03:54.935 Six meters. 1:03:56.175 --> 1:03:57.175 And length of the ship. 1:03:58.295 --> 1:03:59.495 If you get me, I'm with you, yep. 1:03:59.535 --> 1:04:01.575 And then it's it's like a hobby room out the 1:04:01.655 --> 1:04:04.455 back that by six meters by seven meters yep. 1:04:05.255 --> 1:04:06.055 As I split that. 1:04:06.055 --> 1:04:09.695 Again into two bedrooms, plus put another couple of walls 1:04:09.775 --> 1:04:13.855 up for a bathroom, so you walk through the bathroom 1:04:13.975 --> 1:04:16.775 and then walk through another door into the flat area. Gotcha, 1:04:18.295 --> 1:04:21.215 had no plumbing, so I had the plumbers come around, 1:04:21.495 --> 1:04:24.615 bag the drains and put the drains into the gally traps, 1:04:24.615 --> 1:04:26.575 took it up to the main and had that all 1:04:26.695 --> 1:04:27.895 signed off by the council. 1:04:28.455 --> 1:04:30.415 How did you get it signed off by the council? 1:04:30.695 --> 1:04:32.735 Did you get a building consent for all of this work. 1:04:34.175 --> 1:04:35.695 Now, it was through the plumber because I was doing 1:04:35.695 --> 1:04:38.335 a plumbing apprenticeship time, So I had my boss file 1:04:39.175 --> 1:04:43.255 and file for it through simply or something through to 1:04:43.375 --> 1:04:45.895 the council. And then they came around and done inspicchen 1:04:45.975 --> 1:04:49.095 on the drainage or covered it back over and then 1:04:49.175 --> 1:04:49.895 they signed it off. 1:04:51.615 --> 1:04:53.055 How could they sign it off if you didn't have 1:04:53.095 --> 1:04:55.135 a building consent? Did you only get a consent for 1:04:55.415 --> 1:05:00.895 adding drainage or waste just a drainage? And they didn't 1:05:00.975 --> 1:05:03.135 go why is it that you want to put a 1:05:03.975 --> 1:05:07.495 wastewater connection to a shed? Is that because you're putting 1:05:07.535 --> 1:05:09.375 a toilet in it? If you're putting a toilet in it, 1:05:09.495 --> 1:05:11.775 does that then become a habitable space? If it's now 1:05:11.815 --> 1:05:14.055 a habitable space but it was originally a shed, do 1:05:14.095 --> 1:05:16.175 you have a change of use? In order to get 1:05:16.215 --> 1:05:17.775 a change of use you need a building consent. 1:05:18.895 --> 1:05:20.855 Now, they never asked any of that. They just I'd 1:05:20.935 --> 1:05:23.015 just done the drainage too, and it had on the 1:05:23.095 --> 1:05:27.775 plans the toilet and the gully trap was for the 1:05:27.935 --> 1:05:33.535 washing machine for the laundry. Anyway, Yeah, that was two 1:05:33.655 --> 1:05:34.015 years ago. 1:05:35.295 --> 1:05:37.095 But I never I never got a thought. 1:05:37.575 --> 1:05:40.855 For the internal walls was the ones that I put 1:05:40.935 --> 1:05:45.415 up because there was already an internal wall and all 1:05:45.495 --> 1:05:49.055 that back area was already insulated and lined and had 1:05:49.095 --> 1:05:53.455 electrical and everything, and anyway, that was done back in 1:05:53.655 --> 1:05:57.775 two thousand, I think it was. But then the internal 1:05:57.855 --> 1:06:02.255 plumbing was the shower and the catchenette. I haven't had that. 1:06:02.295 --> 1:06:06.815 I've never got a pre line inspection on that either. 1:06:07.695 --> 1:06:09.895 But what those new laws are you still getting me 1:06:10.015 --> 1:06:12.455 to get inspections on all that stuff. 1:06:14.495 --> 1:06:17.015 No, but the new law hasn't The new law hasn't 1:06:17.055 --> 1:06:19.775 come into place yet, so and you won't get a 1:06:19.895 --> 1:06:24.415 retrospective building consent. And I would say you'd probably struggle 1:06:24.495 --> 1:06:27.295 to get a certificate of acceptance without providing a lot 1:06:27.335 --> 1:06:32.015 of documentation. So it sounds like most of what has 1:06:32.095 --> 1:06:36.575 happened there is non compliant in terms of you know, 1:06:36.855 --> 1:06:39.335 having like you do need a building consent if you're 1:06:39.335 --> 1:06:43.055 going to do change of use at the moment, and 1:06:44.295 --> 1:06:46.095 you know, if there is a building consent, you should 1:06:46.095 --> 1:06:48.055 be able to ring counsel and go, can you see 1:06:48.135 --> 1:06:50.095 me the property file and tell me all of the 1:06:50.175 --> 1:06:54.895 building consents that were issued for this property personally? And 1:06:55.215 --> 1:06:58.775 I'd be delighted if I was wrong here, But I 1:06:59.175 --> 1:07:03.015 can't see how you would get a building inspected to 1:07:03.135 --> 1:07:05.375 sign off on work given that there was no building 1:07:05.495 --> 1:07:09.295 consent sign off. Now maybe there is a limited consent, 1:07:09.495 --> 1:07:12.415 but I've never heard of them. But again, I'd be 1:07:12.495 --> 1:07:13.735 more than happy to be wrong. 1:07:15.295 --> 1:07:15.375 So. 1:07:16.935 --> 1:07:19.775 Yeah, you'd be delighted as well. But look, I think 1:07:19.855 --> 1:07:22.615 go to council, request the property file and see what's 1:07:22.655 --> 1:07:26.775 actually on there, because that'll give you an idea of 1:07:26.855 --> 1:07:31.295 what's already happened and whether or not it's compliant. But yeah, look, 1:07:31.575 --> 1:07:34.575 and I think too just going forward to what we're 1:07:34.895 --> 1:07:37.775 kind of talking about in terms of adding granny flats 1:07:37.775 --> 1:07:40.495 and that sort of thing, the requirement is that you 1:07:40.575 --> 1:07:42.895 can do it without necessarily getting a building consent, but 1:07:42.975 --> 1:07:44.975 it still has to be to the building code, right, 1:07:45.375 --> 1:07:48.335 so you need to be able to fast prove compliance, 1:07:49.335 --> 1:07:52.615 which means getting a designer and etc. The challenge with 1:07:52.855 --> 1:07:55.975 the work that you've done and what's already there is 1:07:56.135 --> 1:07:59.095 that you know it was never designed to be a 1:07:59.135 --> 1:08:02.335 habitable space. So is there a vapor barrier underneath the slab? 1:08:02.735 --> 1:08:05.855 Is there installation in the walls? Is there building paper 1:08:05.895 --> 1:08:08.535 on the outis all of those things that make how 1:08:08.775 --> 1:08:12.855 a home compliant. It would be very difficult in order 1:08:12.975 --> 1:08:16.055 to prove that now, and the burden of proof is 1:08:16.095 --> 1:08:17.695 going to be on you if you wanted to go 1:08:17.815 --> 1:08:20.575 for a Steviet of acceptance. So start with the council 1:08:20.775 --> 1:08:22.535 and see how you get on from there. I'll be 1:08:22.575 --> 1:08:24.975 fascinated to see where that ends up. Oh, eight hundred 1:08:25.055 --> 1:08:27.215 eighty ten eighty. We're rocking along this morning. Actually we're 1:08:27.215 --> 1:08:29.175 going so fast I need to take a break, So 1:08:29.455 --> 1:08:32.175 we'll be back with Reece number two in just a moment. 1:08:34.295 --> 1:08:35.855 Doing upper house sorting the garden. 1:08:35.975 --> 1:08:38.855 Ask Pete for a hand the resident builder with Peter 1:08:38.935 --> 1:08:42.375 Wolfcamp and light Force Solar, Get your solar saver, pag 1:08:42.535 --> 1:08:45.895 now col Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News talks. 1:08:45.895 --> 1:08:47.415 That'd be just a couple of. 1:08:47.455 --> 1:08:49.615 Texts with regard to the issue that we were talking 1:08:49.615 --> 1:08:54.335 about with Paul and the bathroom that's leaking love. This 1:08:54.495 --> 1:08:57.415 one from Murray Murray, Pete, can I wring you about 1:08:57.455 --> 1:09:00.175 that shower? Of course you can, Murray, I think you're 1:09:00.175 --> 1:09:02.655 asking the wrong questions, mate. I'm a tyler thirty five 1:09:02.735 --> 1:09:04.495 years experience. I think it might not be as bad 1:09:04.535 --> 1:09:06.855 as it is. Yep, you're more than welcome direct a 1:09:07.335 --> 1:09:10.175 similar issue to the person before with the shower. The 1:09:10.215 --> 1:09:12.055 builder said the ceilant around the base of the shower 1:09:12.055 --> 1:09:14.335 will only last five years and then replace it. Doesn't 1:09:14.335 --> 1:09:16.935 sound correct from what you were saying. Well, if the 1:09:17.575 --> 1:09:21.535 seilant around the shower is deteriorating, yes, by all means, 1:09:21.655 --> 1:09:25.375 replace it and it acts as a first line of defense. However, 1:09:26.055 --> 1:09:28.935 even if water gets past the ceilant, it shouldn't then 1:09:29.015 --> 1:09:31.615 be tracking out onto the floor or through the bottom 1:09:31.655 --> 1:09:34.535 plate and be visible in the carpet some distance away 1:09:34.575 --> 1:09:37.015 from the shower. That's my point. That's where I think 1:09:37.015 --> 1:09:40.535 it's probably a failure for the waterproofing system. We'll talk 1:09:40.535 --> 1:09:42.375 about that if you wish. Oh, eight hundred and eighty 1:09:42.455 --> 1:09:44.735 ten eighty is the number to call Reece A very 1:09:44.775 --> 1:09:45.375 good morning to you. 1:09:46.415 --> 1:09:48.935 Yeah, good morning, good morning. I've run you four years ago, 1:09:49.335 --> 1:09:50.015 four years ago. 1:09:50.175 --> 1:09:53.335 Please forgive me call. 1:09:55.095 --> 1:09:57.735 I know you won't, but I'm building two of these 1:09:58.095 --> 1:10:01.415 smaller buildings, smaller than what you were talking about. 1:10:01.935 --> 1:10:02.135 Yep. 1:10:02.415 --> 1:10:04.255 Is it the moment that you put water into it, 1:10:04.335 --> 1:10:07.015 it becomes a council issue on Kevity Coast. 1:10:07.215 --> 1:10:11.095 That's pretty much the rule right now. What they're saying is, hey, 1:10:11.575 --> 1:10:15.375 maybe in certain circumstances you could put one on the 1:10:15.455 --> 1:10:17.575 back of a property if there's enough space, and it 1:10:17.655 --> 1:10:20.295 could be up to sixty square meters, and you may 1:10:20.415 --> 1:10:23.535 not need a building consent for that, which means you 1:10:23.615 --> 1:10:25.415 can do the work. It still has to comply with 1:10:25.455 --> 1:10:27.015 the building code, but you don't have to go through 1:10:27.055 --> 1:10:28.495 the regamarole of getting a consent. 1:10:29.495 --> 1:10:32.255 What about a supportable home that you've got on your place. 1:10:33.175 --> 1:10:36.335 Yeah, Unfortunately the law around that is as clear as mud. 1:10:37.655 --> 1:10:41.255 So there's all sorts of absurdities around the tiny home 1:10:41.335 --> 1:10:44.095 thing where people are going, look, if it's got wheels 1:10:44.135 --> 1:10:46.815 on it, therefore it's not a house, it's a caravan 1:10:46.935 --> 1:10:49.695 and it could be moved off. I was talking to 1:10:49.775 --> 1:10:52.295 someone the other day who had a tiny home delivered 1:10:52.335 --> 1:10:55.255 to site and the builder is not going to nail 1:10:55.295 --> 1:10:59.375 it down to the foundations to the because he said, 1:10:59.415 --> 1:11:01.855 as soon as I do that, then it's no longer transportable. 1:11:02.655 --> 1:11:04.375 And I'm like, what, So it's just going to sit 1:11:04.415 --> 1:11:06.775 there waiting for the wind to blow it off the piles. 1:11:07.415 --> 1:11:10.735 That's not very smart either. So there's some absurdity around 1:11:11.215 --> 1:11:14.175 the existing tiny home stuff, and in this instance here 1:11:14.215 --> 1:11:17.415 the granny flat legislation will help free that up. And 1:11:17.495 --> 1:11:21.055 I look, I hope that I'm not giving the impression 1:11:21.095 --> 1:11:23.935 that somehow I don't support it. I do, actually and 1:11:24.015 --> 1:11:26.975 principles support it. I think it could open up a 1:11:27.055 --> 1:11:31.615 lot of space and allow families to have that opportunity, 1:11:31.735 --> 1:11:38.415 maybe for older parents or for you know, teenage children 1:11:38.775 --> 1:11:44.975 or extended family to find housing that's affordable right, and 1:11:45.655 --> 1:11:48.015 multi generational living, all of those sorts of things could 1:11:48.055 --> 1:11:51.215 be a really good thing from this. It's just I 1:11:51.455 --> 1:11:54.175 know that there's a lot of detail to getting a 1:11:54.255 --> 1:11:56.455 house right, and how do you get the detail right 1:11:56.495 --> 1:11:58.815 if you don't have counsel looking over your back. But 1:11:59.135 --> 1:12:01.055 maybe we should just grow up and get better at building. 1:12:02.335 --> 1:12:05.935 I was building a house and the builder walked away 1:12:06.015 --> 1:12:08.695 because got it all wrong, and the council walked away 1:12:08.735 --> 1:12:10.415 and left me with no house. That's what I rung 1:12:10.455 --> 1:12:13.495 you about four years ago. I've been doing my own 1:12:13.615 --> 1:12:18.975 legal trying to but it's too expensive to afford any lawyers. 1:12:19.015 --> 1:12:20.295 You said you were going to get backing on some 1:12:20.375 --> 1:12:22.455 of these law and a construction lawyer because the five 1:12:22.575 --> 1:12:24.175 hundred and fifty six hundred bucks an hour. 1:12:24.815 --> 1:12:27.015 Yeah, pretty much. All the guys that I know would 1:12:27.055 --> 1:12:28.895 be more than that. So I'm not sure if I 1:12:29.015 --> 1:12:29.495 go out much. 1:12:29.615 --> 1:12:29.775 Yeah. 1:12:29.815 --> 1:12:35.095 Yeah, unfortunate, but that's the only reason why I'm losing 1:12:35.175 --> 1:12:40.055 my case. I have engineers reports, builders reports, I took photos, emails, 1:12:41.055 --> 1:12:43.935 but it's still going since I rang you four years ago, 1:12:44.095 --> 1:12:46.695 because I did the right thing by taking the photos 1:12:46.975 --> 1:12:47.775 and doing everything. 1:12:48.335 --> 1:12:51.855 When you started building the dwellings that you've done, did 1:12:51.935 --> 1:12:53.935 you get a building consent for the work at the time? 1:12:54.415 --> 1:12:56.735 Yes, yeah, yeh, it's all paid for. That's what I say. 1:12:56.815 --> 1:13:00.695 The council even I wasn't built to consent, The builders 1:13:00.735 --> 1:13:02.855 didn't build to consent, and the council didn't inspect. 1:13:04.735 --> 1:13:06.975 How did the council not inspect? 1:13:08.335 --> 1:13:10.775 They come up and failed the first inspection, they never 1:13:10.855 --> 1:13:13.335 inspected anything else and see the builds to carry on. 1:13:13.455 --> 1:13:14.215 They got it all wrong. 1:13:14.735 --> 1:13:17.135 Now I got an engineer's report, builders reports say it's 1:13:17.175 --> 1:13:19.095 not even built to the building consent. 1:13:19.975 --> 1:13:22.855 Okay, so really this is about suing the builder for 1:13:23.015 --> 1:13:25.015 building non compliantly. 1:13:25.775 --> 1:13:28.695 No, the council let them build. No, no, no dudior 1:13:28.775 --> 1:13:29.775 care responsibility. 1:13:30.735 --> 1:13:33.935 Look, I can see why counsel are not going to 1:13:34.055 --> 1:13:38.095 engage with you on that. In the end, if let's 1:13:38.095 --> 1:13:42.095 say the first building inspection failed and maybe you as 1:13:42.135 --> 1:13:44.735 the client didn't know about it, and your builder carried 1:13:44.775 --> 1:13:47.495 on working knowing that they had failed the first inspection, 1:13:47.655 --> 1:13:49.975 then perhaps they just carried on building, didn't get any 1:13:50.055 --> 1:13:52.975 other inspections. That's got nothing to do with council. That's 1:13:53.095 --> 1:13:54.295 all down to the builder. 1:13:54.735 --> 1:13:57.975 So I was supposed to do when you get a 1:13:58.015 --> 1:14:02.975 building consent, you get the processes from MB that the 1:14:03.055 --> 1:14:05.815 guidelines that say the council have to inspect the rio 1:14:05.935 --> 1:14:08.175 and the state, they had to inspect such and such 1:14:08.215 --> 1:14:08.895 and such and such. 1:14:09.055 --> 1:14:12.695 They do, But council will only come for inspection when 1:14:12.735 --> 1:14:14.975 they're called to come to sit by the builder. 1:14:15.655 --> 1:14:16.095 Yeah, I did. 1:14:16.175 --> 1:14:20.535 I called them, you called them, and when they failed. 1:14:20.375 --> 1:14:21.935 I took photos and thought was wrong? 1:14:23.015 --> 1:14:28.495 Right? But when when when the inspection failed, how did 1:14:28.535 --> 1:14:29.735 the builder carry on working? 1:14:29.855 --> 1:14:32.855 Then that's right. The council will in carry on. If 1:14:32.895 --> 1:14:34.535 I've got an email saying no, you can carry on, 1:14:34.815 --> 1:14:37.895 that's sort of satisfactory. You can carry on, but you 1:14:38.015 --> 1:14:42.855 need to have photos, documents, and you know, do all 1:14:42.895 --> 1:14:46.095 that and take photos documents, or the building ever did 1:14:46.655 --> 1:14:48.655 and the council in the come and inspect. 1:14:51.415 --> 1:14:54.975 Were the council asked to come back and inspect you. 1:14:55.095 --> 1:14:56.775 I asked them to come back inspired it. 1:14:57.375 --> 1:14:58.535 Yeah, but did they turn up? 1:14:59.535 --> 1:14:59.575 No? 1:15:00.815 --> 1:15:01.135 Why not? 1:15:02.695 --> 1:15:03.575 That's why. That's why. 1:15:03.735 --> 1:15:04.735 That's why I'm going through this. 1:15:04.895 --> 1:15:05.175 Why not? 1:15:05.255 --> 1:15:05.775 Why didn't I? 1:15:05.815 --> 1:15:06.175 That's right? 1:15:06.935 --> 1:15:08.695 And then when they finally turned up because I had 1:15:08.695 --> 1:15:12.575 an engineer's report, it was too late. The builder knew 1:15:12.615 --> 1:15:15.295 that he was caught, even said to me the emails 1:15:15.335 --> 1:15:20.055 he's got all wrong and took off right. So and 1:15:20.455 --> 1:15:24.095 I did nothing to come up and noticed the fix, 1:15:24.375 --> 1:15:25.815 but too late the builder had gone. 1:15:27.935 --> 1:15:31.775 Yeah. I think the hard thing is and I is 1:15:31.855 --> 1:15:34.735 that it's really the way in which the builder has 1:15:34.815 --> 1:15:37.375 managed the project, and potentially the way in which you've 1:15:37.455 --> 1:15:38.255 managed the builder. 1:15:40.775 --> 1:15:40.895 Uh. 1:15:41.175 --> 1:15:43.015 Now, I asked for the council to come come and 1:15:43.135 --> 1:15:45.455 check it. This, you know, I could say it was. 1:15:47.455 --> 1:15:49.215 When you say you asked for the council to come 1:15:49.255 --> 1:15:52.055 out and do an inspection, hand on heart. I've never 1:15:52.135 --> 1:15:54.615 had a situation where if I've booked a building inspection, 1:15:55.215 --> 1:15:59.935 they haven't turned up, right, So are you saying you 1:16:00.095 --> 1:16:02.935 booked a building inspection and then the building council or 1:16:02.975 --> 1:16:05.815 the building control officer didn't turn up. 1:16:06.975 --> 1:16:11.135 The council said the requirements were but the builder didn't 1:16:11.215 --> 1:16:13.655 go to those requirements, and then later on past the 1:16:13.735 --> 1:16:15.775 piece one or Pierce two or piers four, whatever you 1:16:15.815 --> 1:16:20.335 want to call it. Yeah, I trust that these things 1:16:20.375 --> 1:16:20.775 were done. 1:16:22.215 --> 1:16:24.375 And so when you came to the final inspection, I'm 1:16:24.415 --> 1:16:26.175 presuming your final inspection failed. 1:16:27.295 --> 1:16:27.335 No. 1:16:27.575 --> 1:16:30.215 No, well they didn't finish the building, and the building 1:16:30.255 --> 1:16:32.975 gets out of it. It didn't take photos, didn't document anything. 1:16:33.215 --> 1:16:35.975 But because they didn't finish it, he didn't have to. 1:16:37.455 --> 1:16:37.655 Look. 1:16:38.055 --> 1:16:39.455 That's the excuse of getting. 1:16:39.255 --> 1:16:41.535 Out of my I have a massive manner of sympathy 1:16:41.575 --> 1:16:44.775 for where you're at. But I think chasing counsel for 1:16:44.895 --> 1:16:48.695 something that is obviously the builder's fault is going to 1:16:48.815 --> 1:16:50.895 mean you're not going to have any joy with counsel. 1:16:51.175 --> 1:16:51.215 You. 1:16:51.415 --> 1:16:53.575 You will be banging your head against the brick wall. There. 1:16:55.575 --> 1:16:57.135 I've got I've got them in court, but I can't 1:16:57.135 --> 1:16:57.775 afford a lawyer. 1:16:58.975 --> 1:17:00.015 Yeah, and they got much deeper. 1:17:00.055 --> 1:17:02.615 Pou look at it. The judge look at it and said, 1:17:02.615 --> 1:17:05.175 oh yes, yeah, okay, this is here. I can see 1:17:05.215 --> 1:17:08.135 because when you look at the what the builders did, how. 1:17:08.135 --> 1:17:10.095 Much more spent on legal fees so far? 1:17:11.815 --> 1:17:19.055 Ah, I'm broke, grimy broke. That's why I was asking 1:17:19.055 --> 1:17:22.895 if there's any lawyers that maybe could help, because this 1:17:23.095 --> 1:17:27.015 is ridiculous how they can pass a PS for whatever 1:17:27.015 --> 1:17:30.535 you call a PS two one on trust when I 1:17:30.655 --> 1:17:35.135 have photos, documents of everything. I'm a boilermaker, So I 1:17:35.215 --> 1:17:38.095 took photos. I knew things weren't right, so I took 1:17:38.135 --> 1:17:39.655 photos and went to the council with them. 1:17:43.135 --> 1:17:45.295 I'm going to hand you back to even a producer. 1:17:45.495 --> 1:17:48.775 Leave your number, no, no, no, you're all good. No no, don't, don't, 1:17:48.815 --> 1:17:51.855 don't run away. Leave your number so I can contact 1:17:51.895 --> 1:17:56.175 you or leave an email. Yes, if if anyone wants 1:17:56.215 --> 1:17:58.135 to contact me who might want to help you out, 1:17:58.255 --> 1:18:00.415 then by all means people can do that. So let's 1:18:00.495 --> 1:18:02.295 let's see if we can get someone to have a 1:18:02.335 --> 1:18:06.055 look at it. But I can see this being an 1:18:06.335 --> 1:18:10.135 incredibly tangled web, and I suspect that you trying to 1:18:10.175 --> 1:18:13.935 get some redress from counsel is just not going to 1:18:14.375 --> 1:18:19.855 happen somehow unfortunately. But and this is where I get 1:18:19.935 --> 1:18:23.735 angry with shonky builders. Right, you know someone who's probably 1:18:23.775 --> 1:18:29.375 out of their depth goes ahead? Does poor quality work 1:18:29.495 --> 1:18:32.135 be interesting to know whether they were ever a licensed 1:18:32.135 --> 1:18:36.455 building practitioner. They should have been, because back then, four 1:18:36.535 --> 1:18:40.975 years ago, for the last teen twelve, fourteen years, you 1:18:41.095 --> 1:18:45.095 can't do restricted work without being a licensed building practitioner. 1:18:47.135 --> 1:18:50.295 So if they've still got a current license, you could 1:18:50.295 --> 1:18:52.575 take them to the disciplinary board. You could try and 1:18:52.695 --> 1:18:55.095 soothe them. That would be a better avenue than trying 1:18:55.135 --> 1:18:57.735 to sue council. I suspect oh eight one hundred and 1:18:57.735 --> 1:18:59.335 eighty ten eighty the number to call needs to take 1:18:59.335 --> 1:19:01.855 a quick break, then we'll talk to Tony in tell. 1:19:02.255 --> 1:19:05.255 Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fence, or wondering 1:19:05.335 --> 1:19:08.335 how to fix that hole. Give Peter Wolf Cabin call 1:19:08.375 --> 1:19:11.535 on OH eight hundred eighty ten eighty the resident builder 1:19:11.655 --> 1:19:14.655 with light four solar flick the switch to solar today 1:19:14.935 --> 1:19:15.495 news talks. 1:19:15.535 --> 1:19:19.975 That'd be someone's text through pet stopped defending councils and gisbond. 1:19:19.975 --> 1:19:22.335 We've got a leaky apartment building that council signed off 1:19:22.375 --> 1:19:24.655 way back in two thousand and sevenish when things went right. 1:19:25.015 --> 1:19:27.655 Fast forward sixteen years and it needs a lot of work. 1:19:27.855 --> 1:19:30.895 I'm not defending counsel. I'm just in that particular instance there. 1:19:32.415 --> 1:19:34.415 You know, seriously, you can't tell me that you ring 1:19:34.575 --> 1:19:37.095 up and you book a building inspection and the building 1:19:37.175 --> 1:19:40.855 inspector doesn't turn up, and if they don't, typically they'll 1:19:40.895 --> 1:19:42.615 ring you or they'll delay it or something like that. 1:19:42.815 --> 1:19:45.015 But to say that they didn't come and inspect it 1:19:45.175 --> 1:19:49.135 if you had booked them properly doesn't just doesn't stack up. 1:19:49.215 --> 1:19:51.495 Doesn't pass the sniff test for me, Tony. 1:19:51.575 --> 1:19:54.135 Good morning, Yeah, good morning, Peter. 1:19:55.535 --> 1:20:00.175 I've got a concrete block garage which has got. 1:20:03.015 --> 1:20:03.055 It. 1:20:03.535 --> 1:20:07.895 It's leaking through the concrete block. Wolves is there any 1:20:07.935 --> 1:20:10.375 way you can seal it from the inside. 1:20:10.615 --> 1:20:12.775 And I presume where it's leaking from the outside wall, 1:20:12.855 --> 1:20:15.095 it's because that's acting as a retaining wall and so 1:20:15.455 --> 1:20:19.015 moisture is whicking through the wall and into the inside space. 1:20:19.895 --> 1:20:22.895 Correct. Yeah, the retaining the neighbor's wall, and it's got 1:20:22.975 --> 1:20:24.135 a shed on top. 1:20:24.295 --> 1:20:27.615 Okay, So yeah, there are products that you can apply 1:20:27.815 --> 1:20:31.615 to the inside face that work. They migrate through so 1:20:32.775 --> 1:20:35.295 by all means, have a look online. But for example, 1:20:35.415 --> 1:20:40.015 something like sea Mix crystal proof, which is a product 1:20:40.055 --> 1:20:43.895 that can be applied that then penetrates into the masonry, 1:20:44.415 --> 1:20:48.295 and the crystals that are part of the compound are 1:20:48.375 --> 1:20:53.735 activated when they encounter moisture and expand and eventually fill 1:20:53.815 --> 1:20:55.895 up all of the pores that allow the moisture to 1:20:55.975 --> 1:21:02.615 come through. So thats C E M I X C 1:21:03.575 --> 1:21:08.095 E mix. The is the brand, and then the product 1:21:08.215 --> 1:21:11.815 is called crystal. It's everywhere. You'll be able to find it, 1:21:11.895 --> 1:21:14.015 no trouble at all. Have a bit of a read 1:21:14.175 --> 1:21:16.415 about how it works and why it works. The other 1:21:16.495 --> 1:21:19.375 thing that I point out, just for people listening, is 1:21:19.415 --> 1:21:22.815 that I've seen cases where people have applied waterproof and 1:21:22.895 --> 1:21:28.215 compound to the inside wall that's designed to resist water 1:21:29.815 --> 1:21:31.255 by having water pressing against it. 1:21:31.335 --> 1:21:31.455 You know. 1:21:31.495 --> 1:21:33.295 I'll explain that after the break because it takes a 1:21:33.295 --> 1:21:36.095 little bit. And if you'd like to text during the break, 1:21:36.295 --> 1:21:38.935 hew'd you put a sixty square meter grannie flat on 1:21:39.055 --> 1:21:41.295 your property as it is the place that you are 1:21:41.415 --> 1:21:44.375 inhabiting right now, could you do that? I'm loving the 1:21:44.615 --> 1:21:48.935 completely unscientific pole we're running this morning. Surprising number of yesses. 1:21:49.015 --> 1:21:51.335 I'm genuinely surprised. We'll come back to that after the 1:21:51.535 --> 1:21:52.815 news sport and we're the top of the. 1:21:52.855 --> 1:22:02.015 Arradact squeaky door or squeaky floor get the right advice 1:22:02.055 --> 1:22:05.775 from Peter Wolfcare. The resident builder with light four solar 1:22:05.975 --> 1:22:09.295 save on SOL and earn airpoints dollars us talk said 1:22:09.335 --> 1:22:10.415 be oh. 1:22:10.375 --> 1:22:12.215 It's been a ripper of a morning. Thank you, folks. 1:22:12.535 --> 1:22:14.775 It's not over yet. By the way, we will have 1:22:14.935 --> 1:22:18.735 rid climb passed along at about eight thirty. The text 1:22:18.815 --> 1:22:21.335 messages has been going off because I've asked this really 1:22:21.975 --> 1:22:28.055 completely unscientific, unresearched, lacking and verification poll that we're running. 1:22:28.095 --> 1:22:30.535 But it's been quite intriguing. Could you put a sixty 1:22:30.575 --> 1:22:32.895 square meter sleep out on your existing property? We you 1:22:32.975 --> 1:22:35.495 are today, look out the window and gok on there. 1:22:36.375 --> 1:22:39.615 I'm genuinely surprised at the number of people that could, 1:22:40.775 --> 1:22:43.135 which perhaps reflects the fact that I spend too much 1:22:43.175 --> 1:22:45.095 time in the city because I cruise around and I go, 1:22:45.335 --> 1:22:47.975 I can't see where they're going to go. But judging 1:22:48.015 --> 1:22:51.855 by this and I right now, I would say more 1:22:51.895 --> 1:22:56.535 people said yes to that question than said no, which 1:22:56.535 --> 1:22:59.535 I found really fascinating. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten 1:22:59.575 --> 1:23:04.295 eighty is the number to call. Just a very quick 1:23:04.335 --> 1:23:08.175 comment around because it's it's an issue that we've talked 1:23:08.175 --> 1:23:10.855 about quite a number of times. So just before the news, 1:23:11.335 --> 1:23:14.975 Tony Rang said, Look, I've got an older basement with 1:23:15.335 --> 1:23:20.455 a concrete wall and it's got soil behind it, so 1:23:20.535 --> 1:23:22.975 it's acting as a retaining wall. I can't get behind 1:23:23.015 --> 1:23:25.655 the water the wall to waterproof that, but water is 1:23:25.695 --> 1:23:27.815 getting through. Can I put something on the inside, Yes, 1:23:27.935 --> 1:23:30.935 you can, And there's a number of different products. But 1:23:32.215 --> 1:23:35.055 this is what I encountered not long ago looking at 1:23:35.055 --> 1:23:38.575 a job where some people had applied a waterproofing compound 1:23:38.655 --> 1:23:42.095 to the inside of the wall, but it had failed. 1:23:42.495 --> 1:23:44.415 And the reason it had failed is because it was 1:23:44.455 --> 1:23:49.175 a waterproofing compound that's designed to have water pressing against it, 1:23:49.615 --> 1:23:56.455 i e. Blocks waterproofing water outside whereas and so it's 1:23:56.535 --> 1:23:59.855 designed to resist water pressing against it, and it has 1:23:59.895 --> 1:24:03.495 a waterproofing membrane is then pushed against the substrate against 1:24:03.535 --> 1:24:06.575 the block work by the water pressure on the outset side. 1:24:06.935 --> 1:24:08.375 And it's designed that way. If you put it on 1:24:08.455 --> 1:24:11.615 the inside and water comes through the wall, it will 1:24:12.015 --> 1:24:19.335 press the water off. That's how it works. Yeah, that's 1:24:19.455 --> 1:24:21.215 kind of how it works. Oh, one hundred eighty ten 1:24:21.255 --> 1:24:24.775 eighty is the number to call. Uh Lorraine, thank you 1:24:24.935 --> 1:24:25.655 very much for waiting. 1:24:26.895 --> 1:24:31.175 Yeah, hi, hi Pete. Just a quick question Foost of 1:24:31.215 --> 1:24:35.495 all recouncils. Oh, you wouldn't believe what to Dollar City 1:24:35.575 --> 1:24:40.975 Council subcour They are my daughter and someone or bought 1:24:41.015 --> 1:24:43.535 a house which had a code of complaints. Then they 1:24:43.615 --> 1:24:45.455 bought it and then when they went to sell out, 1:24:45.495 --> 1:24:49.255 it didn't have one. And they queried the council what's 1:24:49.335 --> 1:24:51.375 going on, and they said, they don't know. There's no 1:24:51.695 --> 1:24:55.455 papers to show this a complaints And so they checked 1:24:55.495 --> 1:24:58.375 down the person they bought it off, and she said, oh, 1:24:58.415 --> 1:25:00.375 we had that trouble too. We just said it for us. 1:25:00.895 --> 1:25:03.455 So they gave a compliance to the people to cell 1:25:03.775 --> 1:25:06.615 and then took it off again. Hang on would not 1:25:06.895 --> 1:25:10.215 they would not back down. So my daughter and a 1:25:10.695 --> 1:25:15.695 husband hit one hundred grand to tricks to their water leaking. 1:25:15.855 --> 1:25:18.895 Health hold on. 1:25:19.055 --> 1:25:25.255 So a a code compliance certificate was issued for a 1:25:25.335 --> 1:25:29.575 property yep, and then it was withdrawn yep. 1:25:30.455 --> 1:25:33.295 And the guy that did it still groups at the council. 1:25:34.775 --> 1:25:37.935 So they approached three or four different lawyers, but they 1:25:38.015 --> 1:25:41.215 all worked to the council and so they all take 1:25:41.295 --> 1:25:43.615 out and then they found this one lawyer that said, 1:25:43.975 --> 1:25:46.215 did not chase. They're not going to follow it because 1:25:46.215 --> 1:25:49.055 when they did finally sell, they got one hundred grands 1:25:49.095 --> 1:25:51.935 more than what they ease. Health prices have gone up, 1:25:51.935 --> 1:25:52.775 but that's really. 1:25:52.615 --> 1:25:53.095 Not the point. 1:25:53.735 --> 1:25:56.015 And yeah, so the councilors got. 1:25:55.975 --> 1:25:56.855 Up Scott's free. 1:25:57.695 --> 1:25:57.895 Yeah. 1:25:57.935 --> 1:26:01.735 Look to be fair, you know, like people have texted 1:26:01.735 --> 1:26:03.815 and goes, oh, you should stop defending counsel. I'm not 1:26:03.895 --> 1:26:08.455 defending counsel. I'm not saying no, no, no, But look, 1:26:08.815 --> 1:26:10.855 you know what's really intriguing is that a number of 1:26:10.895 --> 1:26:14.015 people are pushing back. Right, So you know, we tend 1:26:14.095 --> 1:26:16.295 to have this approach where if council says that it's 1:26:17.375 --> 1:26:20.855 blue and it's red, then they're right, and people are 1:26:20.895 --> 1:26:24.295 pushing back. There's a great story and stuff recently about 1:26:24.495 --> 1:26:27.735 a landowner, a guy who had some industrial property where 1:26:27.975 --> 1:26:30.495 there was a retaining wall on the boundary. Council came along, 1:26:30.615 --> 1:26:32.975 saw that it was dangerous, issued and notice to fix 1:26:33.095 --> 1:26:36.455 to him, and he went, not my problem, and they went, yes, 1:26:36.535 --> 1:26:38.335 it is, we're issuing you had noticed to fix. He 1:26:38.415 --> 1:26:42.415 went inb got a determination and the determination was actually, counsel, 1:26:42.535 --> 1:26:45.295 you're wrong. You can't issue a notice to fix that person. 1:26:45.975 --> 1:26:48.775 The response from Hamilton City Council was while we're reviewing 1:26:48.815 --> 1:26:53.295 the decision. So you know, we're all fallible, right, So 1:26:54.015 --> 1:26:57.415 but you know, to have a code of compliance issued 1:26:57.855 --> 1:27:00.695 and then to have it withdrawn seems to me the 1:27:00.775 --> 1:27:02.695 sort of thing that you would want to take to 1:27:03.615 --> 1:27:07.455 mb for example, and get them to investigate it. Because 1:27:07.495 --> 1:27:12.695 good to remember that councils are a territorial authority and 1:27:12.855 --> 1:27:16.575 they are issued a license to operate as a building 1:27:16.695 --> 1:27:20.935 Cossent Authority a b c A by the government. Now, 1:27:21.335 --> 1:27:24.335 a couple of years ago christ Church City Council had 1:27:24.375 --> 1:27:27.615 their warrant to be a b c A was removed 1:27:27.775 --> 1:27:32.655 by government because for whatever reason. So you know, it's 1:27:32.855 --> 1:27:35.695 it's not like they are a law unto themselves. They 1:27:35.775 --> 1:27:38.415 have to act within the law, and I would be 1:27:39.575 --> 1:27:42.575 incredibly I mean, I've never heard of a situation where 1:27:42.815 --> 1:27:46.055 a CCC has been issued and then it's been withdrawn. 1:27:46.295 --> 1:27:51.375 And if it was with drawn, surely that responsibility would 1:27:51.415 --> 1:27:57.215 fall with council. That's the sagre to go to. 1:27:57.375 --> 1:28:00.015 Nby because it won't costing that way. So I'm going 1:28:00.055 --> 1:28:01.415 to come that. 1:28:03.135 --> 1:28:03.535 My problem. 1:28:05.335 --> 1:28:08.695 You've got a cent and I wanted to replace the 1:28:08.775 --> 1:28:11.935 element and jewelry, but the unboilder said I can't. Well, 1:28:11.975 --> 1:28:13.895 I have to replace the clothing as well because you 1:28:14.015 --> 1:28:17.055 have to build a cavity, which I have. And then 1:28:17.095 --> 1:28:20.015 the other bolder said, no, you can just put new 1:28:20.095 --> 1:28:23.335 windows done. And then he said you just cut the 1:28:23.375 --> 1:28:26.255 windows dow he reasons exploded the deal and we go 1:28:26.375 --> 1:28:27.935 to rechlad and you can do it that way. 1:28:29.575 --> 1:28:29.775 Yeah. 1:28:30.295 --> 1:28:33.695 Look, I would say this if you're doing like for Lake. 1:28:33.975 --> 1:28:36.335 I mean that your builders right in the sense that 1:28:36.535 --> 1:28:39.775 if you were recladding, and you were doing an extensive reclad, 1:28:40.375 --> 1:28:43.095 then typically in order to comply with the code today, 1:28:43.215 --> 1:28:46.095 you would need to have your cladding on a cavity system, 1:28:46.215 --> 1:28:49.455 most likely, in which case the jowinery would either have 1:28:49.575 --> 1:28:52.175 to have specific flashings or it would need to be 1:28:52.295 --> 1:28:55.575 removed and put further out to allow the pladding to 1:28:55.655 --> 1:28:56.935 tuck in behind the extrusion. 1:28:57.495 --> 1:28:59.775 But if it is just so, you can do that 1:29:00.295 --> 1:29:03.215 and then you know later on because the plating's fine. Yeah, 1:29:03.575 --> 1:29:05.455 but the leming journey is flat. 1:29:06.735 --> 1:29:09.455 Yeah, okay, so if the joinery is, and chances are 1:29:09.535 --> 1:29:12.295 the jowinery will be what we call face fixed, right, 1:29:12.415 --> 1:29:15.295 So the cladding will be behind the extrusion of the joinery, 1:29:15.375 --> 1:29:17.655 and then the joinery is pushed against the cladding whatever 1:29:17.695 --> 1:29:20.455 the cladding happens to be, in which case you could 1:29:21.775 --> 1:29:25.655 pull out the architraves on the inside, cut through all 1:29:25.655 --> 1:29:28.215 the fixings, pull the window out from the outside. That's 1:29:28.375 --> 1:29:32.375 probably easier than it said, than done. But typically you 1:29:32.455 --> 1:29:36.495 can remove the joinery, install new jowinery, do it in 1:29:36.615 --> 1:29:39.415 accordance with the code in terms of aircl and flashings 1:29:39.455 --> 1:29:41.615 and a wands bar if that's required or something like that. 1:29:42.255 --> 1:29:44.895 But I don't see that you would necessarily require a 1:29:44.935 --> 1:29:45.895 building consent for that. 1:29:46.095 --> 1:29:49.655 If it's like for like and you don't have to 1:29:49.735 --> 1:29:51.415 do a cavity, I. 1:29:51.455 --> 1:29:53.975 Can't see why you would have to do a cavity. Well, 1:29:54.415 --> 1:29:56.815 you would if you were changing the cladding. But if 1:29:56.855 --> 1:30:00.255 you're only changing the joinery and you're not touching the cladding. 1:30:00.735 --> 1:30:02.775 Well, the one buller said you can't do the joiners 1:30:02.815 --> 1:30:06.535 without doing the clading. He said that you can, don't. 1:30:07.655 --> 1:30:11.335 He doesn't understand. The second builder doesn't understand the first guy. 1:30:11.655 --> 1:30:11.695 No. 1:30:11.895 --> 1:30:14.175 I just think that I mean it would be interesting, 1:30:14.655 --> 1:30:17.895 you know, again, with those sorts of situations, you can't. 1:30:17.935 --> 1:30:20.055 It's it shouldn't just be an opinion, right, It's got 1:30:20.095 --> 1:30:22.095 to be an opinion based on fact. So if you 1:30:22.215 --> 1:30:26.615 were wanting to still engage with the first builder, you'd go, hey, 1:30:26.735 --> 1:30:31.015 hang on, why you know, why is that? Which part 1:30:31.095 --> 1:30:34.095 of the legislation do you think applies to this? Show 1:30:34.175 --> 1:30:36.975 me where in the building code or in three six 1:30:37.095 --> 1:30:39.855 o four or whatever you feel that that's a requirement. 1:30:40.175 --> 1:30:41.055 I just don't see it. 1:30:42.095 --> 1:30:44.935 Yeah, okay, that's good. That's put my mind at rest. 1:30:46.255 --> 1:30:47.495 Can into one hundred grands? 1:30:48.015 --> 1:30:50.495 Well, yeah, you know, so you're wanting to do the 1:30:50.575 --> 1:30:53.255 right thing and upgrade the joinery, good on you, but 1:30:53.375 --> 1:30:56.135 that shouldn't necessarily trigger removal of all of the clouding. 1:30:57.375 --> 1:30:57.535 You know. 1:30:57.895 --> 1:31:00.975 Look, if I was unkind, I might suggest that the 1:31:01.055 --> 1:31:04.975 builder is looking to expand the job for their own gain. 1:31:05.295 --> 1:31:08.575 But it seems me, seems to me that it's unnecessary. 1:31:09.575 --> 1:31:11.895 Well, you did say that if you've then they have 1:31:12.015 --> 1:31:13.695 to take all one of those out again to reach 1:31:13.775 --> 1:31:15.775 mad because then we have to build the cavity. And 1:31:15.895 --> 1:31:17.895 that's what the second s said too. He said that 1:31:17.975 --> 1:31:19.295 it was big jail to take. 1:31:20.135 --> 1:31:23.855 Taking two Well, probably won't take ten minutes, but yes, 1:31:23.975 --> 1:31:27.255 you could potentially do it later on. I mean, look, 1:31:27.655 --> 1:31:29.975 you know, in a perfect world you'd go, hey, why 1:31:30.015 --> 1:31:33.815 don't we do everything all at once? But that's also 1:31:34.095 --> 1:31:36.575 then expanding the job from forty grand to one hundred grand, 1:31:36.615 --> 1:31:38.335 and that might not be a resources you have right now. 1:31:38.495 --> 1:31:40.735 You may be, you know, for good reason. 1:31:40.895 --> 1:31:43.015 So oh it's great. 1:31:43.175 --> 1:31:45.775 All right, Well, the very missed you very much. Take care. 1:31:46.015 --> 1:31:48.495 We'll be back with Jason in just a moment. 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Te's and c's apply news talk zby rdio. 1:33:15.375 --> 1:33:19.255 Just looking at the I asked a question just after 1:33:19.335 --> 1:33:26.335 seven o'clock around I'm just curious, you know, I don't 1:33:26.375 --> 1:33:28.975 think there's been as much discussion in the media about 1:33:28.975 --> 1:33:32.575 building and building regulations in the last couple of years 1:33:32.575 --> 1:33:34.615 as there has been over the last six months, let's say. 1:33:35.375 --> 1:33:37.375 And one of the things that emerged a couple of 1:33:37.415 --> 1:33:41.495 months weeks ago was the proposal to add sixty square 1:33:41.535 --> 1:33:44.695 meter granny flat. And that's not a pejorative, right, that's 1:33:44.815 --> 1:33:47.215 just a way of describing this particular type of building 1:33:48.455 --> 1:33:54.335 to residential properties without necessarily requiring building consent. Resource consent 1:33:55.615 --> 1:33:57.775 still needs to complow the building code still needs to 1:33:57.855 --> 1:34:01.535 be done by licensed building practitioners or trusted building professionals. 1:34:01.575 --> 1:34:03.935 I think is the phrase. And I was just curious 1:34:03.975 --> 1:34:08.615 as to, like, realistically, how many properties would actually be 1:34:08.735 --> 1:34:11.135 able to accommodate that. Now, it's the sort of thing 1:34:11.175 --> 1:34:13.175 that I might be interested in. I can't fit that 1:34:13.455 --> 1:34:17.815 on the property that I live on. My neighbors probably couldn't, 1:34:18.015 --> 1:34:21.855 My other neighbors couldn't. The neighbors behind us possibly could. 1:34:21.935 --> 1:34:25.695 That's an interesting one. So I was kind of looking 1:34:25.735 --> 1:34:28.495 at going Actually, okay, I understand why you would float 1:34:28.535 --> 1:34:31.015 the idea, but in reality, how many of these will 1:34:31.015 --> 1:34:33.535 actually get built? And will it make an appreciable difference 1:34:33.615 --> 1:34:38.055 to housing supply in particular and in that sense housing 1:34:38.535 --> 1:34:41.575 affordability as well. So the question was, could you and 1:34:41.655 --> 1:34:44.975 the property that you currently occupy add a sixty square 1:34:45.055 --> 1:34:48.375 meter granny flat to the property that would be compliant 1:34:48.455 --> 1:34:51.015 so you know, can't be within a certain distance of 1:34:51.015 --> 1:34:54.055 the boundary, et cetera, et ceter And I would say, 1:34:54.215 --> 1:34:57.495 right now, it's probably running at about sixty percent yes, 1:34:58.255 --> 1:35:02.215 which I wasn't expecting. So it's been useful as an insight. 1:35:02.855 --> 1:35:05.295 Every now and then I will do these completely unscientific, 1:35:05.855 --> 1:35:08.735 unveiry fight untested polls because I quite enjoy them to 1:35:08.815 --> 1:35:11.655 be fair and I do find them quite insightful. Maybe 1:35:11.655 --> 1:35:14.375 we should do one on H one regulations next week. 1:35:14.535 --> 1:35:16.735 Let's do that. I'll set that up now. Next week, 1:35:17.695 --> 1:35:21.135 you vote yes or no. Should the government look at 1:35:21.335 --> 1:35:25.775 changing H one requirements like literally winding back the legislation? 1:35:25.935 --> 1:35:28.495 So the new standards came in to play from November 1:35:28.535 --> 1:35:32.095 of last year, requiring often more installation et cetera, et 1:35:32.135 --> 1:35:36.135 cetera into building, So higher requirements on energy efficiency in 1:35:36.215 --> 1:35:40.055 new builds as reflecting H one of the Building Code. Yes, 1:35:40.135 --> 1:35:41.975 we'll know to that. We'll do that next week on 1:35:42.055 --> 1:35:43.895 the show. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is 1:35:43.895 --> 1:35:46.255 the number to call. Last building question. Then we're into 1:35:46.335 --> 1:35:48.775 the garden with a red climb pass from Make thirty. Jason, 1:35:48.815 --> 1:35:49.535 Good morning to you. 1:35:50.775 --> 1:35:52.175 Here you go, good things. 1:35:52.455 --> 1:35:52.855 What's up? 1:35:53.775 --> 1:35:56.095 Just wondering. I've got a garage and it's on a 1:35:56.295 --> 1:35:58.935 brick garage, just a single garage, and it's right on 1:35:59.055 --> 1:36:02.335 the boundary of my place and the neighbors, and I 1:36:02.455 --> 1:36:05.255 want to take it down, and I've mentioned to my 1:36:05.335 --> 1:36:07.775 neighbor about me or you can't take it down because 1:36:08.455 --> 1:36:11.655 your side wall is the back hall of my lean 1:36:11.735 --> 1:36:15.535 to that somebody has built previous years before we were 1:36:15.575 --> 1:36:17.735 both there. There you get on there. 1:36:18.935 --> 1:36:27.695 Fascinating, but there's a number of approaches. One is, does 1:36:27.935 --> 1:36:30.735 either of those dwellings have a building consent. 1:36:32.135 --> 1:36:32.175 For? 1:36:32.255 --> 1:36:37.895 Probably not from back in the nineteen thirty towers? Yeah, okay, yeah, 1:36:38.575 --> 1:36:40.535 I'd imagine the lean to wouldn't. 1:36:40.495 --> 1:36:44.175 Which of those two structures is the one that was 1:36:44.215 --> 1:36:44.895 built first? 1:36:45.815 --> 1:36:49.415 Well, it'll be there. I'm your gar again that the 1:36:49.535 --> 1:36:52.895 garage was. And then people before us had said, well, 1:36:52.895 --> 1:36:55.055 I'm going to build a shed, can I use Can 1:36:55.135 --> 1:36:59.015 I just build off your side wall and just build 1:36:59.055 --> 1:37:02.015 this wee lean to off the side. And I've talked 1:37:02.055 --> 1:37:04.295 to a builder and he said, oh, we'll just come 1:37:04.335 --> 1:37:05.975 in and we'll just take the whole bloody thing down 1:37:06.055 --> 1:37:08.935 and be done with it. And it's not yours, it's 1:37:08.975 --> 1:37:10.375 not yah, it's all fault. 1:37:10.455 --> 1:37:12.295 And to be fair, I know we always want to 1:37:12.335 --> 1:37:13.815 be good neighbors and all the rest of it, but 1:37:14.215 --> 1:37:17.055 I would probably take the same approach that I think 1:37:17.135 --> 1:37:19.935 that the fact that a neighbor has taken the liberty 1:37:19.975 --> 1:37:22.695 of you know, bolting a ribbon plate and pitching some 1:37:22.895 --> 1:37:25.135 rafters and putting a roof on it and then going, hey, 1:37:25.175 --> 1:37:28.535 that's my shed. Well yeah, okay, I'll leave your ship there, 1:37:28.575 --> 1:37:29.855 but I'm taking my wall away. 1:37:31.015 --> 1:37:33.215 And then and then the other to the other thing 1:37:33.295 --> 1:37:35.175 that I think said if I was to do that, 1:37:35.335 --> 1:37:40.455 he might be a pain. And you know, if I 1:37:40.735 --> 1:37:44.335 want to put another garage up, or you know, like 1:37:44.775 --> 1:37:46.775 does it how close can it go to you know, 1:37:46.855 --> 1:37:49.615 or will I have to be whatever two meters or 1:37:49.655 --> 1:37:51.295 a meter off the boundary and all that? 1:37:51.375 --> 1:37:54.135 Will he you know, he might certainly. 1:37:54.175 --> 1:37:57.055 If you a pain, Like if you went for a 1:37:58.055 --> 1:38:00.535 building consent and a resource consent for a new building 1:38:01.175 --> 1:38:05.135 in the same location on the boundary, and the simplest 1:38:05.175 --> 1:38:07.735 way to get that would be get an affected party 1:38:07.895 --> 1:38:10.375 to consent to it. And the affected party is the 1:38:10.455 --> 1:38:12.935 one where you've just pulled down half their building. I 1:38:13.055 --> 1:38:15.455 think human nature would say that you're unlikely to get 1:38:15.615 --> 1:38:18.895 his signature or her signature on that document, right, So 1:38:19.015 --> 1:38:21.095 there's a bit of there's a bit of psychology. There's 1:38:21.095 --> 1:38:24.295 a bit of human relations at play here. 1:38:26.895 --> 1:38:29.015 But he was trying to get me to get them 1:38:29.055 --> 1:38:34.535 to the brick and leave that side wall up just 1:38:34.695 --> 1:38:36.535 so that he could keep his his back. 1:38:36.655 --> 1:38:40.135 All of us said, yeah, I mean, look, you could 1:38:40.215 --> 1:38:42.895 do that if somehow that I mean, is it going 1:38:42.975 --> 1:38:44.295 to is it going to stay up? 1:38:44.455 --> 1:38:44.935 No, it's not. 1:38:45.255 --> 1:38:48.215 Do you want that on your structure? I think you 1:38:48.255 --> 1:38:49.655 know the thing is to go to him and just 1:38:49.735 --> 1:38:52.735 go Actually, does that building have a consent? Does it 1:38:52.975 --> 1:38:56.615 comply with the code? If it had a consent, then 1:38:56.895 --> 1:38:59.375 you probably can't touch it. But I suspect that doesn't 1:38:59.415 --> 1:39:05.655 have a consent and it's it post dates yours, in 1:39:05.735 --> 1:39:07.895 which case I think he's just going to have to 1:39:07.935 --> 1:39:10.455 accept the fact that he's been able to use something 1:39:10.535 --> 1:39:14.975 that he should see as an incidental bonus rather than 1:39:15.015 --> 1:39:15.375 a right. 1:39:16.455 --> 1:39:16.655 Yeah. 1:39:16.815 --> 1:39:19.535 Yeah, would be my approach. But hey, look, you know 1:39:20.135 --> 1:39:22.615 we also always want to try and be good neighbors. 1:39:22.655 --> 1:39:26.455 So I understand that it's as simple as just flicking 1:39:26.535 --> 1:39:31.655 them the burden, pulling down the fence, the carriage. And again, 1:39:31.935 --> 1:39:34.095 if you're building on the boundary, you definitely need a 1:39:34.135 --> 1:39:37.455 building consent. You can build one meter away from the boundary. 1:39:38.335 --> 1:39:40.295 You still need a building consent for that, but it 1:39:40.335 --> 1:39:42.855 doesn't necessarily need to be fire rated, which makes the 1:39:42.895 --> 1:39:48.335 structure a bit simpler in terms of building building. You know, 1:39:48.575 --> 1:39:51.095 with the extension to what you can build under Schedule 1:39:51.135 --> 1:39:52.895 one of the Act, typically you have to be the 1:39:53.015 --> 1:39:55.655 height of the building away from the boundary in order 1:39:55.735 --> 1:39:58.855 for it to not require a building consent. Then suddenly 1:39:59.015 --> 1:40:01.375 you'd be you know, that's a lot of wasted space, 1:40:01.415 --> 1:40:06.695 isn't it. Oh, you could part the boat. There, good 1:40:06.735 --> 1:40:08.655 excuse to buy a boat. All right, mate, all the best, 1:40:09.135 --> 1:40:12.055 take you, I see you then bye way, Ah cricky, 1:40:12.175 --> 1:40:14.895 let's get into the garden. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. 1:40:14.895 --> 1:40:18.575 If you've got any gardening questions or into myological questions, 1:40:18.615 --> 1:40:21.855 a red climb past will be with us just straight 1:40:21.895 --> 1:40:24.095 after the break, So call us now, oh eight hundred 1:40:24.215 --> 1:40:25.535 eighty ten eighty. 1:40:26.895 --> 1:40:31.055 Gardening with still shop free accessories this winter at steel shop. 1:40:32.735 --> 1:40:36.695 Measured twice, got once, but maybe coll Pete first. 1:40:36.855 --> 1:40:40.415 Peter wolf Camp, the resident builder with light four solar 1:40:40.615 --> 1:40:42.215 flick the switch to solar today. 1:40:42.575 --> 1:40:43.455 News talks, it'd be. 1:40:44.575 --> 1:40:46.295 Your news talks, it'd be Peg wolf Camp with you 1:40:46.495 --> 1:40:48.695 and Red climb past a very good morning, sir. 1:40:49.015 --> 1:40:51.935 Good morning. Rude is here too, Isn't that a lovely 1:40:52.055 --> 1:40:52.455 thing to do? 1:40:52.815 --> 1:40:53.975 Is running where you are? 1:40:54.655 --> 1:40:57.415 It's a gorgeous day, actually it's it was very cold, 1:40:57.815 --> 1:41:01.615 it's it's quite blue skyish and all that. But seeing 1:41:01.655 --> 1:41:03.375 we're waiting for some I noticed a caller, but we 1:41:03.455 --> 1:41:05.535 need some more callers, so befoid, I just want to 1:41:05.575 --> 1:41:08.015 tell you a story that I thought it was really cool. 1:41:08.295 --> 1:41:10.495 I've got I had some I have some really good 1:41:10.615 --> 1:41:12.935 Dutch friends that I've known almost from the day I 1:41:13.055 --> 1:41:17.655 came into New Zealand. And Dawn, she lives in tarot 1:41:17.815 --> 1:41:20.095 And in the Taroo region. She told me the story 1:41:20.175 --> 1:41:23.575 that I'd totally forgotten about. And she asked me this 1:41:23.735 --> 1:41:27.135 question about bulbs. How to do bulbs and how to 1:41:27.335 --> 1:41:29.855 you know, you have to call them down in the 1:41:30.415 --> 1:41:32.975 to get a nice cold winter over winter dry in 1:41:33.055 --> 1:41:35.175 the fridge. Okay, that sort of stuff. So I just 1:41:35.255 --> 1:41:36.975 came from the Netherlands, and I said, well, you put 1:41:37.015 --> 1:41:37.935 them in the freezer there? 1:41:38.855 --> 1:41:41.015 You do you know the fridge there? 1:41:42.375 --> 1:41:43.575 Do you know where this is going? 1:41:44.135 --> 1:41:44.175 No? 1:41:44.295 --> 1:41:46.175 I can imagine, well, well you can imagine. 1:41:46.175 --> 1:41:47.975 So the frize. There's a French word that's used in 1:41:48.095 --> 1:41:51.815 Dutch for the fridge actually, but it's also about where 1:41:51.855 --> 1:41:54.575 the freezer is. And this this was where the she 1:41:54.655 --> 1:41:58.135 puts them in the freezer and they they were mushy, 1:41:58.615 --> 1:42:01.255 and she told me that after about fifty years of 1:42:01.335 --> 1:42:03.015 living in New Zeald. You know, I never told you 1:42:03.135 --> 1:42:06.055 this story. That was a really stupid advice. 1:42:08.335 --> 1:42:11.255 But could you put them in the fridge, not the freezer. 1:42:11.775 --> 1:42:13.415 It's got to be the fridge. It's got to be 1:42:13.495 --> 1:42:17.215 the fridge in a paper bag to literally give them 1:42:17.255 --> 1:42:20.335 this overwintering site. But Dawn put them in the freezer 1:42:20.375 --> 1:42:23.055 because I probably said freezer, thinking oh that's the word. 1:42:23.135 --> 1:42:23.975 But it wasn't. 1:42:25.495 --> 1:42:27.815 Classic learning English. 1:42:27.695 --> 1:42:30.095 Funny that you mentioned that, because my sister was talking 1:42:30.135 --> 1:42:33.415 about planting bulbs the other day and you know the 1:42:33.455 --> 1:42:35.415 issue was that it just doesn't get that cold in 1:42:35.455 --> 1:42:38.015 Auckland and it certainly doesn't get that cold and Wayhiki, 1:42:38.175 --> 1:42:42.255 so you know where she's got this magnificent garden. She 1:42:42.535 --> 1:42:43.615 sent a good gardener. 1:42:44.215 --> 1:42:45.375 Lovely when it happened. 1:42:45.495 --> 1:42:48.975 Yeah, but it was all about timing. We were talking, 1:42:49.055 --> 1:42:51.175 were seeing mum the other day and it was like, oh, no, 1:42:51.255 --> 1:42:52.775 I got to wait right till the end because I 1:42:52.895 --> 1:42:55.615 put them in now they'll just go crazy way too it. 1:42:56.375 --> 1:42:59.055 Yeah, I love that. Those are the stories that you think, gosh, 1:42:59.615 --> 1:43:01.655 those are the old days. Oh, by the way. And 1:43:02.055 --> 1:43:05.335 Tony her husband was a builder, and he I remember 1:43:05.415 --> 1:43:07.255 building with him, build in front of my house. This 1:43:07.415 --> 1:43:09.055 is in the day before there were consent. 1:43:10.775 --> 1:43:11.255 Do you know that? 1:43:11.415 --> 1:43:13.735 You don't even go there? 1:43:14.215 --> 1:43:16.735 I love it. Right now, let's get amongst the calls. 1:43:17.095 --> 1:43:20.295 Eight hundred and eighty ten eighties that number to call Hello, Alistair? 1:43:21.695 --> 1:43:22.015 Gooday? 1:43:23.815 --> 1:43:24.735 What can we do for you? 1:43:24.935 --> 1:43:27.695 Day here? Not a very good day here? It's raining 1:43:27.855 --> 1:43:28.415 right hell. 1:43:28.855 --> 1:43:31.255 I can't help you with that, I'm afraid, Alice. I've 1:43:31.335 --> 1:43:34.775 tried that, but it never worked me neither. 1:43:35.015 --> 1:43:37.975 You're right. Look, I want to talk to you about 1:43:38.055 --> 1:43:43.855 strawberries and my strawberries. I've grown strawberries here for years 1:43:43.895 --> 1:43:47.935 and years and years, and they've usually been terrific. Now, 1:43:48.055 --> 1:43:52.935 the last season we had terrific plants. There were very 1:43:53.015 --> 1:43:57.455 healthy plants and bushy and everything, but very few strawberries. 1:43:58.495 --> 1:44:01.535 And I'm wondering now what to do about that, because 1:44:01.575 --> 1:44:04.455 I want to put some. I'm just about to dig them. 1:44:04.455 --> 1:44:07.975 Up, dig the man I did them or replant them 1:44:08.095 --> 1:44:08.815 or something. 1:44:08.935 --> 1:44:12.975 Replant yeah, yeah, yeah, So I don't know. First of all, 1:44:13.655 --> 1:44:17.055 the plants are there and they're still very bushy, but 1:44:17.135 --> 1:44:20.415 they've got lots of runners. Can I use the runners 1:44:20.695 --> 1:44:21.735 for the new season? 1:44:23.175 --> 1:44:28.615 Alistair? I've used runners all my life. Last year, last 1:44:28.695 --> 1:44:32.135 year was a crappy year in which I had virtually 1:44:32.375 --> 1:44:35.895 no strawberries at all. I have no I was going 1:44:35.935 --> 1:44:37.055 to ask you the same question. 1:44:38.415 --> 1:44:39.135 Yeah, same. 1:44:39.375 --> 1:44:41.735 I don't know what happened last year. Yeah, I don't know, 1:44:42.295 --> 1:44:43.615 but I'm having another goal. 1:44:44.975 --> 1:44:49.615 Yep, yeah, I'm having another goal. Strawberries. Yeah, I can hear. 1:44:49.655 --> 1:44:51.695 We're talking over each other. On get on with it. 1:44:51.775 --> 1:44:56.215 Yes, we had very few strawberries. There are big, beautiful strawberries, 1:44:56.255 --> 1:44:57.975 but there are only a very few of them. 1:44:58.655 --> 1:45:01.415 Funny that camarosa and all the things that I used 1:45:01.415 --> 1:45:04.215 to used to have, there's quite a few nice varieties 1:45:04.295 --> 1:45:09.175 that I can grow here in Canterbury, and they were 1:45:09.295 --> 1:45:11.495 they were a pain in the bum last year. There 1:45:11.575 --> 1:45:14.735 was nothing happening. The birds would get the rest, et cetera, 1:45:14.775 --> 1:45:17.215 et cetera, et cetera. I do not know what it is. 1:45:17.455 --> 1:45:19.895 I think what I'm going to do in the next 1:45:20.015 --> 1:45:21.895 month or so is put a whole lot of new 1:45:21.935 --> 1:45:25.175 top soil on and and start again if you like, 1:45:25.335 --> 1:45:29.135 you know, but also keep those keep those runners going, 1:45:29.215 --> 1:45:31.695 because that's what your new varieties are. But I'm going 1:45:31.735 --> 1:45:33.695 to get some new anyway, blow it. I'm going to 1:45:34.495 --> 1:45:39.535 drinks and get some Yeah, that's all I'm going to Okay, Yeah, 1:45:39.815 --> 1:45:41.575 you can use those as far as I'm concerned. 1:45:42.655 --> 1:45:46.815 Yeah, and maybe make a few new new plants and 1:45:46.935 --> 1:45:47.375 with them. 1:45:47.815 --> 1:45:50.775 Yes, do and also dig the stuff up for a change, 1:45:50.935 --> 1:45:53.975 get some nice organic material in their compost da DA data, 1:45:54.735 --> 1:45:56.975 and and see if next year is going to be 1:45:57.055 --> 1:45:58.055 better this coming season. 1:45:58.415 --> 1:45:58.615 Yeah. 1:45:59.375 --> 1:46:01.575 So, so I got a big pile of melch here, 1:46:01.655 --> 1:46:04.735 for example, I dig that in with the compost. 1:46:05.455 --> 1:46:06.495 What sort of multi is that? 1:46:06.615 --> 1:46:09.495 By the way, it's just old. 1:46:10.055 --> 1:46:16.815 Old, old wood that's been ground up and that's setting 1:46:17.135 --> 1:46:17.855 just setting there. 1:46:18.655 --> 1:46:21.415 Are you sure you would use that? I would probably 1:46:21.575 --> 1:46:24.295 use organic material like compost rather than the than the 1:46:24.375 --> 1:46:28.575 wood because when the case it takes, it takes quite 1:46:28.575 --> 1:46:31.455 a bit of nitrogen out of the soil as well. Yeah, 1:46:31.535 --> 1:46:34.295 I think so. Yeah, And that means that the soil 1:46:34.375 --> 1:46:37.975 condition is not as fabulous for strawberries, as for instance, 1:46:38.095 --> 1:46:40.775 a good organic material, sure. 1:46:40.575 --> 1:46:43.295 Sure, sure? And and what else would you use to 1:46:43.375 --> 1:46:45.575 sort of give them a bit of bit of life? 1:46:46.375 --> 1:46:48.695 It's very simple. But what I tend to use is 1:46:48.735 --> 1:46:51.975 a liquid fertilizer from wet and forget. It's called seafood 1:46:52.015 --> 1:46:55.535 soup or seaweed tea. In this case, I mix them up. No, 1:46:55.655 --> 1:46:58.455 I don't mixed up. I alternate them one one week 1:46:58.535 --> 1:47:00.575 I do the seafood soup. The next week I do 1:47:00.695 --> 1:47:01.495 the seaweed tea. 1:47:02.855 --> 1:47:05.615 Okay, that's what I want, Thank you very U. 1:47:06.655 --> 1:47:07.255 You know what I do. 1:47:07.455 --> 1:47:11.535 I use those both those materials in a watering can, 1:47:12.295 --> 1:47:14.455 and I do a little bit of it in the 1:47:14.535 --> 1:47:17.095 ten liters watering can so that it looks like really 1:47:17.295 --> 1:47:21.055 weak tea, not too strong, like really you know that 1:47:21.255 --> 1:47:25.375 light brown wiki tea, that stopy stuff. Yeah, yeah, that's 1:47:25.415 --> 1:47:29.295 what it's. You not too much, eager, easy, Okay. 1:47:31.415 --> 1:47:35.575 You have a great ta take care. Oh one hundred 1:47:35.575 --> 1:47:36.855 and eighty ten, And you've got a couple of spell 1:47:36.895 --> 1:47:38.335 lines pin a good morning. 1:47:39.495 --> 1:47:43.055 Good morning, good morning. I've been mean to ringing last 1:47:43.095 --> 1:47:46.575 two weekends working on beginning, but we've got some popcorn 1:47:46.735 --> 1:47:51.255 scale and sick on our orange mix an orange blossom. 1:47:51.255 --> 1:47:53.255 We can't sin. We get rid of it spready with 1:47:53.375 --> 1:47:58.055 conger oil several times. But the leafy part of the 1:47:58.095 --> 1:48:00.495 plant's really healthy, but the wooden part's just covered in it. 1:48:01.935 --> 1:48:05.855 Ah, okay, so this is the this is this is 1:48:05.935 --> 1:48:08.495 in the and uh, this is not an edible plant, 1:48:08.575 --> 1:48:12.615 of course it's it's it's yeah, I know. So for 1:48:12.735 --> 1:48:15.215 that reason, what I would choose is a material that's 1:48:15.255 --> 1:48:17.335 come out a couple of years ago, and it's called 1:48:17.855 --> 1:48:22.615 grow ventive. So g R O V E n T 1:48:23.015 --> 1:48:30.255 I ve grow ventive. Okay, that is that's a pretty 1:48:30.295 --> 1:48:32.615 good material for scale and sex and meadi bugs and 1:48:32.655 --> 1:48:33.695 a fits and things like that. 1:48:35.615 --> 1:48:38.535 It's quite strange. A spread it several times with the conqueror, 1:48:38.735 --> 1:48:41.575 but it just doesn't seem to And the green of 1:48:41.655 --> 1:48:43.895 the plant is still quite lash and green and lovely, 1:48:43.975 --> 1:48:46.295 but the wooden pats just covered on and the popcorn 1:48:46.415 --> 1:48:48.375 scale don't see that they're doing anything. 1:48:49.095 --> 1:48:49.295 Yeah. 1:48:49.535 --> 1:48:49.575 No. 1:48:49.735 --> 1:48:52.375 The grov grow ventive is a material that is being 1:48:52.455 --> 1:48:55.415 taken up by the plant and goes through the system 1:48:55.615 --> 1:49:00.015 upon which those particular scales feed. So they feed on 1:49:00.095 --> 1:49:03.135 the flowam, the floam which is part of the system 1:49:03.215 --> 1:49:07.455 inside the leaves and inside the twigs, and that will 1:49:07.535 --> 1:49:09.935 be then, if you like, poisoned by the grow ventive. 1:49:10.015 --> 1:49:13.095 So they literally eat a material that that kills them. 1:49:13.495 --> 1:49:16.255 And it's it's systemic, as we call it. It goes 1:49:16.335 --> 1:49:19.135 into the plant and it is a really good material 1:49:19.255 --> 1:49:23.095 to stop it from being sucked upon by these step 1:49:23.215 --> 1:49:27.815 sucking creatures. You cannot use grow ventive on edible crops, 1:49:28.615 --> 1:49:30.615 but you can do it on ornamental crops. 1:49:32.095 --> 1:49:33.655 That's great, that's what I want to hear. 1:49:35.655 --> 1:49:38.815 It'll work well, yeah, it works fabulously. I've tried it 1:49:38.895 --> 1:49:41.735 so many times. It's it's it's really really good and 1:49:41.855 --> 1:49:43.975 really quick too. It goes within a couple of weeks. 1:49:44.335 --> 1:49:46.495 And if you think that those things are not you 1:49:46.655 --> 1:49:46.855 go on. 1:49:47.895 --> 1:49:49.415 I was gonna say, my wife was at the station 1:49:49.495 --> 1:49:51.335 and I pull out the whole bloody's hinge. 1:49:52.975 --> 1:49:53.215 Side. 1:49:54.295 --> 1:49:56.455 No need to, no need to. You can save it. 1:49:57.335 --> 1:49:59.015 You'll be the hero of the day. 1:50:00.055 --> 1:50:00.895 I'm already the hero. 1:50:02.455 --> 1:50:08.975 Bye bye, beautiful, beautiful, probably been married fifty years. That right, 1:50:09.335 --> 1:50:12.055 we will take a short break. Actually, fist up tixt 1:50:12.375 --> 1:50:14.615 please give advice on what to feed higherbiscus. 1:50:15.855 --> 1:50:18.655 Ah, depends on how high it is. It could be 1:50:18.695 --> 1:50:23.095 a low biscus. Now I'm joking. I at this stage, 1:50:23.135 --> 1:50:26.615 I wouldn't feed anything yet. As such, the soil, you 1:50:26.695 --> 1:50:29.695 can put stuff on the soil. I talked to Jack 1:50:29.735 --> 1:50:33.335 about it yesterday with potash, with the ash from fires. 1:50:33.855 --> 1:50:35.895 I put that on because I keep that actually in 1:50:35.935 --> 1:50:37.935 the top layers of the soil, and it doesn't really 1:50:38.095 --> 1:50:41.095 go away that quickly. Well yeah, within a couple of months, 1:50:41.175 --> 1:50:43.935 but you know, by the time that the temperatures are 1:50:43.975 --> 1:50:46.855 going up, that is when a plant starts to take 1:50:47.015 --> 1:50:49.975 in the nutrients. So at the moment it's dormant. No 1:50:50.175 --> 1:50:51.975 point in fertilizing until. 1:50:51.735 --> 1:50:55.215 It's a bit warmer, right, which will be when. 1:50:56.695 --> 1:50:59.735 Depends on where you are exactly. Yeah, no, yeah, you 1:50:59.815 --> 1:51:02.135 know what I mean. It's it's it's really say. For me, 1:51:02.255 --> 1:51:06.415 it would be here late August, early September, I started looking. 1:51:07.255 --> 1:51:09.895 Like August, well late augustus next month. 1:51:10.375 --> 1:51:10.615 I know. 1:51:11.375 --> 1:51:13.455 But you know, don't waste your time and your money 1:51:13.495 --> 1:51:15.655 by putting stuff in the ground that is not being 1:51:15.735 --> 1:51:18.895 used by the plants, because they're very ungrateful little more, 1:51:18.935 --> 1:51:20.695 and so don't take it. You know and you pay 1:51:20.775 --> 1:51:20.935 for it. 1:51:21.415 --> 1:51:25.775 Sorry, fair enough one dutchment or another right forty two. 1:51:25.975 --> 1:51:27.015 We'll be back after the. 1:51:27.055 --> 1:51:29.335 Break doing upper house sorting the garden. 1:51:29.455 --> 1:51:32.335 Ask Pete for a hand, the resident builder with Peter 1:51:32.415 --> 1:51:35.895 Wolfcamp and light Force Solar. Get your solar safer peg 1:51:36.015 --> 1:51:39.215 now call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty news. 1:51:39.095 --> 1:51:41.615 Talk z B lines are open. If you've got a 1:51:41.695 --> 1:51:43.455 question for Ridd, you'll need to be quick. But there 1:51:43.535 --> 1:51:46.015 are a couple of spear lines right now. So eight 1:51:46.175 --> 1:51:49.375 hundred eighty ten eighty or text if you wish. Nine 1:51:49.455 --> 1:51:51.895 to nine two is ebz B for mobile phone. 1:51:53.255 --> 1:51:53.495 Rudd. 1:51:54.615 --> 1:51:57.055 Is now a good time to be doing some planting. 1:51:58.815 --> 1:52:00.855 Yes, if you have a Tunguel house for instance, where 1:52:00.855 --> 1:52:01.335 I am. 1:52:01.695 --> 1:52:04.095 No, I'm thinking about like proper outdoor planting trees. 1:52:04.215 --> 1:52:04.655 Yes, it is. 1:52:04.815 --> 1:52:07.735 It's excellent. This is to plant. This is why all 1:52:07.855 --> 1:52:12.655 these organizations that restore New Zealand are basically having their 1:52:12.695 --> 1:52:16.095 Saturday's gone. We had one in Hallswell Quarry like yesterday, 1:52:16.535 --> 1:52:18.855 and of course Nigel told me that I wasn't there. 1:52:19.295 --> 1:52:23.775 He was right because I forgot. Oh gosh, you golly, 1:52:23.895 --> 1:52:27.055 now those are exactly and there were about seventy or 1:52:27.095 --> 1:52:29.655 eighty people, I think, and this is really cool stuff 1:52:29.735 --> 1:52:32.135 because that's what it's. This is what your environment is. 1:52:32.615 --> 1:52:35.135 Next time you come in Christ, here's Peter. I'll show 1:52:35.135 --> 1:52:37.255 you what happened over the last twenty five years in 1:52:37.335 --> 1:52:40.895 that particular quarry, because that is now becoming a real 1:52:41.335 --> 1:52:45.575 cool bird paradise. There's lizards, there's all of amazing bugs 1:52:45.615 --> 1:52:48.415 and things like that. It is really really good and 1:52:48.535 --> 1:52:51.535 it's all done by the people of Hallswell. If you're 1:52:51.575 --> 1:52:53.455 like of West Southwest. 1:52:54.295 --> 1:52:57.295 How much has changed Because I was down there Shivers 1:52:57.895 --> 1:53:00.895 six seven years ago actually filming a little piece in 1:53:01.055 --> 1:53:03.855 the quarry there. We just needed somewhere to sit and 1:53:04.215 --> 1:53:06.175 have a chat with the people that we were filming, 1:53:06.535 --> 1:53:09.615 and I remember sort of seeing the emergence of all 1:53:09.695 --> 1:53:13.935 of this restoration, this ecological restoration and sort of interesting. 1:53:14.015 --> 1:53:14.175 See. 1:53:14.415 --> 1:53:17.095 And you're absolutely right. If you go around the country 1:53:17.175 --> 1:53:21.215 these days, I think that there is there are just 1:53:21.375 --> 1:53:25.095 literally thousands of people out working in their community doing 1:53:25.175 --> 1:53:27.575 planting at the moment. It is so massive. 1:53:27.615 --> 1:53:30.095 It's great and I would like to say thank you 1:53:30.175 --> 1:53:33.575 New Zealanders because it's done by all of us. So 1:53:33.735 --> 1:53:36.375 we're banding birds we do bird banding in their quarry, 1:53:36.455 --> 1:53:38.775 for instance, and we train other people, dock people and 1:53:38.855 --> 1:53:40.775 comes from people how to do that with nuts and 1:53:41.175 --> 1:53:44.855 how to put things around their rings, around their legs 1:53:44.895 --> 1:53:47.495 and all that. And we are now starting to find 1:53:47.575 --> 1:53:50.095 more and more and more birds there and it is 1:53:50.255 --> 1:53:52.095 absolutely stunning yet great. 1:53:53.135 --> 1:53:55.735 He just I'm curious about you using the ash from 1:53:55.775 --> 1:53:57.415 the wood burner or from the fire. 1:53:57.655 --> 1:53:58.495 So what do you do? 1:53:58.655 --> 1:54:01.455 You try and sort of thin it out, do you? 1:54:02.055 --> 1:54:04.815 Obviously you keep it and let it You're not putting 1:54:04.855 --> 1:54:08.335 it on warm obviously it's outside. It cools down, is there? 1:54:08.575 --> 1:54:10.935 Like do you let it kind of semi compost before 1:54:10.975 --> 1:54:12.055 you apply it or do you just. 1:54:12.335 --> 1:54:14.135 You can do that if you've got a compost bend 1:54:14.135 --> 1:54:16.215 that is still that is still going. Do you remember? 1:54:16.215 --> 1:54:19.895 It's pretty cool, but you have to really make it thin. 1:54:20.135 --> 1:54:22.375 Don't put it in a huge layer on the rise 1:54:22.455 --> 1:54:24.535 because it becomes cement. Yeah. 1:54:25.015 --> 1:54:25.215 I do. 1:54:26.095 --> 1:54:27.255 I do it on a wendy day. 1:54:27.655 --> 1:54:30.815 Yeah, brilliant. And your neighbors get some of the benefit 1:54:30.935 --> 1:54:32.055 as well as well. 1:54:32.135 --> 1:54:34.015 And also and only do it of course on the 1:54:34.055 --> 1:54:38.015 plants that need that. Use the potege de calium for 1:54:38.375 --> 1:54:41.855 flowers and fruit. So the flowers and fruiting plants, and 1:54:42.215 --> 1:54:44.535 that you know, even although they might not use it now, 1:54:44.695 --> 1:54:47.215 it will be used, as you said, at the end 1:54:47.255 --> 1:54:47.815 of next month. 1:54:47.935 --> 1:54:50.575 There you go, brilliant Tom, A very good morning to you. 1:54:51.895 --> 1:54:56.775 Good good morning, Pete. And another's rude. I've got something 1:54:56.855 --> 1:54:59.575 on your line right now. To my surprise, the last 1:54:59.655 --> 1:55:02.575 couple of weeks, as I look on my back door 1:55:03.255 --> 1:55:06.175 in this house which i'm by myself except for my 1:55:06.295 --> 1:55:11.615 I departed whites for cats, there's about fifty bees stationary 1:55:11.935 --> 1:55:14.215 on the glass and some on the ledge. 1:55:16.255 --> 1:55:18.375 Of your glasshouse. Of your glasshouse. 1:55:20.095 --> 1:55:23.935 No, this is my residence, which I built sixty two 1:55:24.055 --> 1:55:28.175 years ago. Right, okay, back door, it's a four light 1:55:28.255 --> 1:55:28.775 glass door. 1:55:28.855 --> 1:55:32.575 See sure. So where are you ringing from? What part 1:55:32.615 --> 1:55:33.935 of New Zealtists is the north? 1:55:35.215 --> 1:55:35.375 Yeah? 1:55:35.455 --> 1:55:36.615 Yes, don on my road? 1:55:37.775 --> 1:55:40.815 There you go. Okay, you have to remember that the 1:55:40.935 --> 1:55:43.455 time is coming that bees are starting to swarm. That 1:55:43.655 --> 1:55:47.055 is number one. But you're only mentioning let's say sixty 1:55:47.215 --> 1:55:49.815 or so bees, so it might not be yet a 1:55:49.895 --> 1:55:52.055 big swarm. It might be a small swarm. But the 1:55:52.135 --> 1:55:54.135 point is that at the moment my bees or the 1:55:54.175 --> 1:55:57.175 bees of my neighbor here in christ Church are still 1:55:57.615 --> 1:56:01.455 flying around. So for some reason, they think it's warm 1:56:01.575 --> 1:56:04.695 enough on a good day like today looks a good day. Actually, 1:56:04.735 --> 1:56:07.495 with a bit of sun late, you'll find the bees 1:56:07.535 --> 1:56:10.935 are still moving. That's number one. But the second thing 1:56:11.015 --> 1:56:14.695 is that usually a swarm doesn't happen until late October, 1:56:14.735 --> 1:56:18.535 early September onwards, if you like, so, maybe this might 1:56:18.575 --> 1:56:19.415 be an earlier group. 1:56:22.455 --> 1:56:23.575 What am I going to do with them? 1:56:24.695 --> 1:56:24.855 Well? 1:56:24.895 --> 1:56:26.375 Are they on the outside of your house? 1:56:28.095 --> 1:56:30.055 No? The inside? 1:56:30.935 --> 1:56:31.095 Oh? 1:56:31.335 --> 1:56:31.655 Really? 1:56:32.695 --> 1:56:32.855 Oh? 1:56:33.095 --> 1:56:36.215 I have a big glasp front in which there is 1:56:36.335 --> 1:56:39.415 a broken piece up the top, and my wife when 1:56:39.495 --> 1:56:41.975 she was here, would spend ten minutes getting an odd 1:56:42.055 --> 1:56:44.695 bee out that got lost. But these ones have been 1:56:44.775 --> 1:56:47.335 here for two weeks. I thought there were fires for start. 1:56:47.775 --> 1:56:50.295 They if you touch them, they will, they can move. 1:56:50.335 --> 1:56:50.895 They're alive. 1:56:51.495 --> 1:56:54.295 Yeah, okay, right in this case, get yourself. You need 1:56:54.375 --> 1:56:56.895 to go to your local area, ask your local people 1:56:56.975 --> 1:56:59.695 that know about these things. Who is a beekeeper in 1:56:59.815 --> 1:57:03.215 your area, and they may want to get some of 1:57:03.375 --> 1:57:06.175 those for a new I feel like a new breed 1:57:06.375 --> 1:57:07.055 they're looking at. 1:57:08.615 --> 1:57:11.415 Oh right, okay, do you know what I mean? I 1:57:11.535 --> 1:57:14.495 do I've got the answer to that prime. I'm okay, 1:57:14.775 --> 1:57:17.295 but I didn't get rid of the cockroaches by the 1:57:17.375 --> 1:57:20.095 time you told me to use soap works. They're all 1:57:20.215 --> 1:57:20.855 through the house. 1:57:23.055 --> 1:57:25.415 Well, yeah, that can happen, but you have to remember 1:57:25.455 --> 1:57:28.975 many cockroaches aren't really not that troublesome. The native ones 1:57:29.295 --> 1:57:32.415 basically come inside because it's too cold outside, and they 1:57:32.495 --> 1:57:35.375 will move outside again to clean up all the stuff 1:57:35.415 --> 1:57:38.415 in your garden. You know, they're recyclists, so that's what 1:57:38.535 --> 1:57:40.655 they do. But in the winter time they think, oh, 1:57:40.695 --> 1:57:42.855 this is a nice place that Tom's got. I think 1:57:42.895 --> 1:57:44.815 I might move in. By the way he built that 1:57:44.935 --> 1:57:47.735 house over the top of our habitat, we might move in. 1:57:52.175 --> 1:57:55.295 Well, when I first came here, I never saw any Well, 1:57:55.415 --> 1:57:58.175 occasionally there was. When they delivered the Herald, there was 1:57:58.215 --> 1:57:59.855 a few big ones in the bag of that. 1:58:00.575 --> 1:58:04.095 Yeah, the Herald. Well, the Harald spreads cockroaches all over 1:58:04.175 --> 1:58:06.175 the place. You've known that all your life, haven't you. 1:58:08.535 --> 1:58:11.895 No, not me, All our others have talked about not cockroaches. 1:58:12.015 --> 1:58:21.455 No, okay, that's sorry to different, same mate, all the best. 1:58:22.455 --> 1:58:25.695 I'm slightly confused by the snake's tist. Hey, Rod, please 1:58:25.775 --> 1:58:30.455 advise on how to get bitter flowering from two barrows tubros. 1:58:30.535 --> 1:58:31.415 Yeah, tubros. 1:58:32.375 --> 1:58:34.375 Put them on the fridge, not in the freezer. 1:58:34.495 --> 1:58:34.855 We know that. 1:58:35.215 --> 1:58:37.135 But yeah, no in the fridge. Yeah, you could do that. 1:58:37.255 --> 1:58:38.655 But on the other end, what you can do is you, 1:58:38.855 --> 1:58:41.135 if they've been there and and the plants are in 1:58:41.215 --> 1:58:45.455 good condition, use some of that potash sulfate of potash, 1:58:45.655 --> 1:58:47.575 or if you like, a little layer of the stuff 1:58:47.575 --> 1:58:51.095 from the garden, from your from your fireplace to put 1:58:51.175 --> 1:58:53.935 that potash into the root zone. And it is the 1:58:54.055 --> 1:58:56.215 potash that makes the tube brosis flower. 1:58:57.775 --> 1:58:57.935 Right. 1:58:58.855 --> 1:59:01.935 That's that follows on nicely from what we talked about before. 1:59:02.255 --> 1:59:04.975 Not everybody's got a fireplace anymore, of course, So you 1:59:05.095 --> 1:59:09.335 can now buy a little granules called sulfate off potash, 1:59:09.415 --> 1:59:12.215 which is the same sort of material and that literally 1:59:12.375 --> 1:59:17.615 makes the plant increase its flowering and fruit in capacity. 1:59:17.655 --> 1:59:19.655 If you like, you can use them for all those 1:59:19.695 --> 1:59:20.255 different things. 1:59:20.375 --> 1:59:23.615 Awesome, Thank you very much. That's awesome. Ryl Of, very 1:59:23.615 --> 1:59:24.255 good morning to you. 1:59:25.535 --> 1:59:26.135 Good morning. 1:59:27.015 --> 1:59:30.455 I'd just like to ask Rudy question, please go for it. 1:59:32.735 --> 1:59:35.455 I have seen all hoyas in my sunroom, one of 1:59:35.495 --> 1:59:40.415 them being forty years old other ones are just collected now. 1:59:40.495 --> 1:59:44.735 They all flare beautiously. However, because of the sun roam 1:59:45.535 --> 1:59:50.695 the sun on mia and I do have a shade cloth. 1:59:50.935 --> 1:59:53.775 But over leaves are going through pale. What can I 1:59:53.855 --> 1:59:58.815 give them to bring the leaves back to grainy means a. 1:59:58.855 --> 2:00:01.935 Little bit of fertilizer, liquid fertilizer when you water them, 2:00:02.135 --> 2:00:04.535 don't You don't water your hoyas too often. If you've 2:00:04.575 --> 2:00:06.735 done it forty years, I don't need to tell you 2:00:06.815 --> 2:00:07.775 how to grow hoyas. 2:00:08.975 --> 2:00:12.495 Oh well, the forty year one eighteen belonged to my mother. 2:00:12.655 --> 2:00:14.375 But I am old enough to have had it for 2:00:14.495 --> 2:00:15.175 fourty years. 2:00:15.295 --> 2:00:18.055 But yeah, but you know you don't over water them, 2:00:18.175 --> 2:00:21.375 generally speaking. But from now on, what I would do 2:00:21.535 --> 2:00:23.575 if you, if I were you, and because they're inside, 2:00:24.255 --> 2:00:26.695 I would give them a bit of liquid fertilizer, Just 2:00:26.775 --> 2:00:30.095 a little bit of the liquid fertilizer in the watering 2:00:30.175 --> 2:00:32.935 can that you water your hoyas with, and that will 2:00:33.295 --> 2:00:36.015 that will sort out the yellowing of your leaves. I'm sure? 2:00:36.495 --> 2:00:36.655 Is it? 2:00:36.855 --> 2:00:41.695 Because they oh, you know, the old one has fifty players, 2:00:42.495 --> 2:00:45.655 you know, every time at players and some of them 2:00:45.695 --> 2:00:49.095 I've just pulls up mistee and several players. It's a 2:00:49.175 --> 2:00:49.975 really good twice. 2:00:50.575 --> 2:00:53.415 It is a good and you know what. I used 2:00:53.455 --> 2:00:55.215 to have a hoyer in the Netherlands when I was 2:00:55.255 --> 2:00:58.815 a student that would go right around my room. That 2:00:58.975 --> 2:01:04.055 hoya would be about one two, three, four times five 2:01:04.575 --> 2:01:09.735 twenty meters long, tendrols and and yeah, and I literally 2:01:09.895 --> 2:01:13.455 trained it right around the ceiling of my of my 2:01:13.695 --> 2:01:16.975 of my room where I was staying, absolutely gorgeous flowering 2:01:17.055 --> 2:01:20.375 every year. At the moment, my hoyas are in a 2:01:20.455 --> 2:01:23.695 slightly too dark condition, and Julie was already saying, we 2:01:23.855 --> 2:01:25.975 need to do something about that, so we're going to 2:01:26.015 --> 2:01:27.735 put it in a slightly lighter place. 2:01:27.815 --> 2:01:32.215 I would say, yeah, okay, well, thank you very much. Advice. 2:01:32.375 --> 2:01:35.375 It's great, Cheryl, You're doing a great job. I love 2:01:35.495 --> 2:01:37.655 the whoy and there's so many different varieties of them. 2:01:37.695 --> 2:01:38.215 Have you seen that? 2:01:38.735 --> 2:01:38.895 Oh? 2:01:39.535 --> 2:01:40.535 I know, I know. 2:01:41.015 --> 2:01:44.015 I wish I could get some of the different talented ones, 2:01:44.135 --> 2:01:46.855 but they quite hard or quite winter. 2:01:47.455 --> 2:01:50.135 Yes, I know. My days it was you could get 2:01:50.175 --> 2:01:53.855 them from anybody. As students in the Netherlands, we changed them, 2:01:53.855 --> 2:01:55.815 of course, There's not nothing. It was very simple. 2:01:56.415 --> 2:01:59.615 Yeah, right, good, thanks very much. 2:01:59.815 --> 2:02:04.375 Bye, hey morning, welcome bye bye yl that it's so good. 2:02:06.455 --> 2:02:08.535 Enjoy a good day because up here it's just a 2:02:08.575 --> 2:02:09.735 little bit on the damp side. 2:02:09.815 --> 2:02:12.375 I get it that that's why I molded lawn yesterday, 2:02:12.415 --> 2:02:14.975 because I have not been able to do it since February. 2:02:15.335 --> 2:02:15.615 Thank you? 2:02:15.895 --> 2:02:16.575 Are you kidding? 2:02:17.055 --> 2:02:17.095 No? 2:02:17.455 --> 2:02:17.935 Seriously? 2:02:18.295 --> 2:02:18.495 Yes? 2:02:18.655 --> 2:02:18.855 True? 2:02:19.095 --> 2:02:21.335 Wow, finally dry yesterday. 2:02:21.695 --> 2:02:24.855 Crikey? All right, you think I'll be doing hours on 2:02:24.935 --> 2:02:26.455 Thursday if you go there? 2:02:26.495 --> 2:02:27.575 Oh hey, can't you be? 2:02:27.855 --> 2:02:30.855 It's not next Sunday. Take care all the best, Bye bye, 2:02:31.735 --> 2:02:34.615 Thank you folks for your company. Love the text mission. 2:02:34.615 --> 2:02:37.135 I'm actually going to add up all of the answers 2:02:37.335 --> 2:02:39.295 and try and get an actual answer, and the next 2:02:39.335 --> 2:02:41.295 week we'll do more polse. Let's do it again next Sunday. 2:02:41.335 --> 2:02:42.695 Have a great week to take care. 2:02:47.935 --> 2:02:50.415 For More from the Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp. 2:02:50.615 --> 2:02:53.215 Listen live to news Talk se'd be on Sunday mornings 2:02:53.255 --> 2:02:56.095 from Sex or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.