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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: due to see Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's

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Speaker 2: News folk said, be.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon. The Chinese premiere is here. He's landed, just

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Speaker 3: as new allegations e merge of Chinese interference in our democracy.

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Speaker 3: We're going to speak to former Sas Minister Andrew Little

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Speaker 3: about it. Brian Waddell, cricket commentator, on how the cricket's

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Speaker 3: going not well, by the way, really really badly. Also

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Speaker 3: bad news more of it. Our gas supply is down

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Speaker 3: again big time, so we're going to speak to an

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Speaker 3: analyst about that.

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Speaker 2: Heather Dup to c Ellen.

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Speaker 3: I am here for the government's proposal to lift the

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Speaker 3: speed limits again. How good is this. I'm going to

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Speaker 3: tell you what's happened at a road or on a

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Speaker 3: road near my mum's place and pook Achoe. Okay, there's

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Speaker 3: this back road that drives me. This kind of stuff

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Speaker 3: drives me crazy. There's this back road that you can

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Speaker 3: when you turn off the motorway at Drury in order

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Speaker 3: to kind of go on a rural back road to

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Speaker 3: its nanny approach state nanny state approach to speed limits,

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Speaker 3: and the limit got dropped from one hundred k's an

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Speaker 3: hour to eighty k's an hour. And to be honest

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Speaker 3: with you, in parts of the road, maybe eighty k's

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Speaker 3: an hour makes sense, but actually there are quite significant

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Speaker 3: parts of the road which are dead straight and you

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Speaker 3: and that would be perfectly fine, but it's eighty k's.

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Speaker 3: The whole way gets better now they've built a school.

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Speaker 3: So the other day I drive past to see the

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Speaker 3: school is now thirty k's an hour all day, every day,

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Speaker 3: not just when the school is on all day. Ten

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Speaker 3: o'clock at night, thirty k's an hour, Saturdays, thirty ks

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Speaker 3: thirty k's an hour. There's no reason for that. It's

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Speaker 3: a rural road. There is literally nothing else around the school.

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Speaker 3: It is literally a school, and some paddocks and a

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Speaker 3: all day, every day. Now, that's the kind of stupidity

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Speaker 3: that I'm hoping is going to be unwound by what

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Speaker 3: little bit more common sense. The government will still require

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Speaker 3: and I think that you and I can agree that

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Speaker 3: that's a smart idea, sixty k's in rural areas, but

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Speaker 3: the speed limit will be variable, so if you drive

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Speaker 3: past at ten o'clock at night, it's not thirty k's

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Speaker 3: an hour. It's not going to be fixed at thirty

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Speaker 3: k's every single day, all day long. Speed limits that

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Speaker 3: were dropped are going to go back up again unless

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Speaker 3: there is local support for them to stay low. Roads

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Speaker 3: of national significance will go to one hundred and ten

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Speaker 3: this one hundred and twenty k's per hour for roads

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Speaker 3: built to handle that kind of speed. Now, the reason

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Speaker 3: I'm on board with this is because speed is not

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Speaker 3: Most of the fatalities that we suffer are caused by

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Speaker 3: drugs and alcohol. So the labor government the last lot

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Speaker 3: were tackling the wrong thing. They were dropping speeds, which

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Speaker 3: roadside drug testing, they never did. So they were neglecting

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Speaker 3: the two big problems while focusing on the third problem,

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: The cops are back with the booze buses, the roadside

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Speaker 2: Heather Duper see Ala Simmy and Brown is.

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Speaker 3: With us actually ten past five on Matt Now, the

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Speaker 3: Retirement Commissioner has made a series of recommendations for changes

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Speaker 3: to Keiwi SABER. The analysis has recommended default contribution rates

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Speaker 3: should go from where they are right now, which is

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Speaker 3: three percent to four percent, with employers being required to

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Speaker 3: recommending key we Saber be made completely compulsory. Michelle Rayes

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Speaker 3: is the policy lead at the Retirement Commissioner Commission. Rather

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Speaker 3: Heimerschelle Hi have why not compulsory?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think the evidence shows us that it's not

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Speaker 5: really necessary. We've got very high levels of membership. The

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Speaker 5: almost all of the people who are in paid employment

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Speaker 5: are actually contributing already, So compulsion isn't really necessary.

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Speaker 3: Really, Like, what proportion of people in paid employment are contributed.

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Speaker 5: Well, those that are paid employees, so those are wage

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Speaker 5: and salary earners, about ninety percent of them are actually

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Speaker 3: And why not make it compulsory to scoop up that

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Speaker 5: Well, I think that there are downfalls to forcing people

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Speaker 5: to say, you know, some people on very low incomes

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Speaker 5: will actually not necessarily be better off if they give

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Speaker 5: up current well being for some future time period. So

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Speaker 5: we just want to give a little bit more flexibility

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Speaker 5: to people to make their own decision.

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Speaker 3: Obviously we don't you know, you don't have to make

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Speaker 3: it compulsory for the worker, but you can make it

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Speaker 3: compulsory for the employer. Why not do that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So that's one of the things that we we

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Speaker 5: do think some consideration should be given to. We know

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Speaker 5: that in other jurisdictions, you know, employer contributions are compulsory.

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Speaker 5: So that's something that we have recommended that the government

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Speaker 5: might give consideration too.

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Speaker 3: Why not call for it?

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Speaker 5: I suppose there's always one needs a bit of a

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Speaker 5: broader analysis before you make these kind of calls, because

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Speaker 5: there are broader economic impacts that come out of compulsory settings,

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Speaker 5: like what they can impact on wage levels generally within

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Speaker 5: their economy, sometimes the economic productivity. So there's broader issues

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Speaker 5: at play that needed to be technique.

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Speaker 3: For example, if you force an employer to make a

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Speaker 3: key we save a contribution on behalf of the employee,

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Speaker 3: they may in fact dock the employee's pay.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that is one of the scenarios that can result, right.

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Speaker 3: Am I right in thinking that the employer over in

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Speaker 3: Australia has to put something like eleven percent in for

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Speaker 5: Yes, that's correct. Yeah, they've been increasing their contributions over

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Speaker 3: So why don't we get real? I mean, we're talking

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Speaker 3: totally winks when you're comparing it to eleven percent or

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Speaker 3: over in Australia, those guys are loaded. Shouldn't we be

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Speaker 5: Well, I think that's the first thing to notice. When

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Speaker 5: that New Zealand's quite different from Australia because we have

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Speaker 5: New Zealand Super, so that is a universal pension payment

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Speaker 5: which isn't in place in Australia. So in a way,

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Speaker 5: people won't have to save as much out of their

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair point. Hey are you worried about our savings culture?

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Speaker 3: I mean, how on earth have we got people who

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Speaker 3: in some cases only got one hundred bucks in their

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, you know, that is concerning. I think

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Speaker 5: that probably is a bit of a function of the

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Speaker 5: current economic climate that we're in at the moment, But yeah,

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Speaker 5: it is something that concerns us just generally Savan's culture. Sure,

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Speaker 5: it's something that we, you know, are pushing for people

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Speaker 5: to kind of think about their future selves when they

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Speaker 5: make decisions about current spending as well. But yeah, it

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Speaker 5: is a concern more generally, is I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, Michelle, there's not a lot you can do. If

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Speaker 3: somebody is just you know, living kind of paypack it

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Speaker 3: to pay pack it, that that is what will happen,

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Speaker 3: and you know, you just hope for the best for them.

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Speaker 3: But do we have examples of people who are actually

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Speaker 3: on a reasonable wicket who still don't save.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Unfortunately, we don't have quite that level of what's

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Speaker 5: this aggregation and the data or the ability to break

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Speaker 5: of analysis, So we're not one hundred percent sure of

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Speaker 5: instances where people aren't necessarily unsaving as much as they should.

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Speaker 5: I think the beauty of kiwisaver is how it works

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Speaker 5: of that helps play into the behavioral factors that we

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Speaker 5: like you know, procrastination and inertia. So people get into

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Speaker 5: the scheme and they don't.

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Speaker 6: Opt out of it.

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Speaker 5: So that's that's a good outcome in terms of people

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Speaker 5: saving for their future selves.

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Speaker 3: Michelle, thank you very much, really appreciated this. Michelle Rayer

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Speaker 3: of the Retirement Commission quarter past.

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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's hither duper c

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Speaker 1: Allen Drive with one New Zealand one giant leaf for business.

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Speaker 3: U Storks, be Ey's up, Darcy water Grave.

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Speaker 7: No, I'm sulking.

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Speaker 3: What are you sulking? Oh? How about that?

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Speaker 7: Are you laughing?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 8: Because really cruel.

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Speaker 7: Don't kick a sports fan when he's down, mate.

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Speaker 3: Come on loose to the West and he's by thirteen

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Speaker 3: runs not good enough?

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Speaker 9: No, and then I lost previously to afghanistart not good enough.

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Speaker 9: And while talking last night and character, well, it's it's

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Speaker 9: one game. Every team is going to have a bad game.

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Speaker 9: It doesn't reflect poorly on the team. And they were

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Speaker 9: going really, really well this afternoon. They were really pushing

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Speaker 9: down on the necks of the West Indians and was

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Speaker 9: looking good and then Darryl Mitchell came in and bowling

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Speaker 9: over and the last two overs got dispatched for I

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Speaker 9: think it was nineteen and eighteen respectively, and that shot

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Speaker 9: them out. We needed one hundred and fifty to win,

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Speaker 9: and then the wickets just kept the tumbling right at

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Speaker 9: the very end. Santa Claus had a bit of a

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Speaker 9: crack and had a few sexes, but it was too little,

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Speaker 9: too late.

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Speaker 7: Problem disappointing.

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Speaker 9: Oh there was some okay bowling, but there was some

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Speaker 9: also problem awful. What was the problem in the tournament?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? New Zealand won no games?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Why?

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Speaker 8: Why?

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Speaker 9: Well, the general thoughts are that they had no build

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Speaker 9: up and they had no warm up games, so they

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Speaker 9: were all underdone when they turned up.

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Speaker 3: Just answer me this question, because we talked about this yesterday.

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Speaker 7: Pretty bad excuse. You'll find something when there's a will.

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Speaker 9: The Australians had it great, they'd had one with nine

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Speaker 7: They've got to play Neuganda and Papua New Guinea, you know.

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Speaker 2: Right because they will.

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Speaker 3: They will, and they deserve.

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Speaker 7: The chance of it. I don't like the chances of it.

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Speaker 7: Why on earth would the Australian public even agree to this?

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Speaker 2: This is their competition, this is theirs.

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Speaker 7: Look, they might want to branch out a wee bit.

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Speaker 7: The other big factor here is the amount of money.

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Speaker 7: Who's going to pay for over here?

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Speaker 3: Some cricket texts, sure call themselves cricketers. Whether they are

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Speaker 3: The bunch of has beens standard practice like the abs.

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Speaker 7: I suppose it's better being has been than it never was.

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Speaker 3: But there's a middle ground. Hey, thank you very very much,

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Speaker 1: It's hither Duplicy Allen drive with one New Zealand, let's

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Speaker 3: Read the cricket there was a timely breakdown near the

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Speaker 3: Our arrogance it not thinking we needed any lead up

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Speaker 3: the yars. It's absolutely right. Everybody knows this. Right if

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Speaker 3: and so you know they'll have to live with that. Listen,

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Speaker 3: the Chinese premiere has just touched down in the country today.

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Speaker 3: This is what he's landing into.

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Speaker 3: According to this documentary, there's this lobbying work that's going

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Speaker 2: Young Cheer Uh huh?

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Speaker 3: The former National MP.

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Speaker 3: Basically, what they're saying is the former National MP was

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Speaker 3: He's going to be with us after five o'clock in

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Speaker 3: the meantime. Can I just say that the texts in

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Speaker 3: regards to the Retirement Commissioners Commission staffer do not It's

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Speaker 3: not good Heather. Listening to your guest speaker on superannuation,

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Speaker 3: it's very clear to see how we get things so

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Speaker 1: Next Hard Questions, Strong opinion, Heather Duperice Alan drive with

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Speaker 3: Australia requires eleven percent of pay from employers, but their

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Speaker 3: the lost country comparisons cross country comparisons are very difficult,

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Speaker 3: It's a fairly insignificant cog and that will Michael, thank

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Speaker 3: you make some very good points there. Murray Olds are

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Speaker 3: very bad news on the gas front. If you're worried

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Speaker 3: run you through those details shortly twenty three away from five.

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Speaker 2: It's the world wires on news talks. It'd be drive.

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Speaker 3: US Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln has wrapped up his

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Speaker 3: latest trip to the Middle East. He's still hopeful that

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Speaker 12: Some of the changes.

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Speaker 2: I think we believe are workable, but some are not.

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Speaker 3: Unemployment has unexpectedly decreased in Australia. It's fallen from four

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Speaker 3: Ross Greenwood says that even with high immigration, the number

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Speaker 13: There are now one hundred and ten thousand fewer unemployed

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Speaker 3: More with Muzz. Shortly and finally, residents of a small

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends in Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business Marie.

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Speaker 3: Old Dotty correspondents with us Now.

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Speaker 7: Hey Muzz, Good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 3: So is there a feeling in Australia that Jared Haynes

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Speaker 14: It's unprecedented. And if it gets to the fourth trial

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Speaker 14: They found him guilty, but then there was an appeal.

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Speaker 14: about text messages that were either deleted or undisclosed. With

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Speaker 14: because Hayn is eligible for parole in May twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 14: and they say a new trial is unlikely to get

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Speaker 14: underway before then, So that may be the end of

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Speaker 14: the matter. We just don't know at this point.

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Speaker 3: So he walked out of jail last night. Where'd he go?

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Speaker 14: IM not sure where he went, but you know, he's

445
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Speaker 14: got lots of friends in the rugby league industry, and

446
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Speaker 14: you know he's got family and so on, so I'm

447
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Speaker 14: not sure where he went. Intest it may emerge in

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Speaker 14: the next next few days.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you guys are great in the media at

450
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Speaker 3: stalking these people are like harrising. I'm keen on it.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it. Listen, what's happened with the

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Speaker 3: unemployment that had suddenly come down?

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Down?

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Speaker 14: It's not a huge drop in you know, it was

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Speaker 14: down to four percent from four point one. The Bureau

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Speaker 14: of Stats said, there's interesting, forty thousand people found jobs

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Speaker 14: in May, plus the number of unemployed people actually dropped

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Speaker 14: by nine thousand. Now here's the thing. Economists are saying

460
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Speaker 14: the trend quote unquote, the trend unemployment rate that takes

461
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Speaker 14: out seasonal volatility and a few other factors actually picked

462
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Speaker 14: up slightly. It's now the highest that's been for over

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Speaker 14: two years. As we're easing out of COVID, those lockdowns

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Speaker 14: of COVID. Here's another interesting stat In May, nearly forty

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Speaker 14: two thousand people got full time jobs, but over the

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Speaker 14: last twelve months in Australia, seventy five percent of people

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Speaker 14: who have found work are actually getting part time jobs. Now,

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Speaker 14: what does all this mean for interest rates in the

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Speaker 14: context of maybe an early election this year. Will analysts

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Speaker 14: are saying it will maintain the likelihood of a cut

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Speaker 14: in official interest rates by the Central Bank before the

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Speaker 14: end of the year, and Anthony Albanezi may be factoring

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Speaker 14: that end.

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Speaker 3: Must listen what's going on with these two cops who've

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Speaker 3: been charged with assaulting the ninety two year old.

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Speaker 14: Ninety two year old man. This happened back in late

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Speaker 14: January in southwest Sydney. A senior constable and a constable

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Speaker 14: have turned up in response to a call about an

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Speaker 14: alleged incident of domestic violence. They find a ninety two

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Speaker 14: year old man in the home. We're not one hundred

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Speaker 14: percent sure exactly what's happened. The police they were wearing

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Speaker 14: body cameras. But the old fellow, he's ended up in

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Speaker 14: hospital with a fractured elbow and major bruising to his

484
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Speaker 14: head and his arms. The two police that have in

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Speaker 14: charge with assault occasioning actual bodily harm. One's also been

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Speaker 14: charged with a separate count of common assault. And here's

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Speaker 14: the thing. The Police Commissioner Karen Webs come out this

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Speaker 14: afternoon and said, because both were wearing body cameras, there's

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Speaker 14: a pretty clear picture of exactly what's happened here. And

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Speaker 14: she says the you know, the big question now is

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Speaker 14: going to be was their excessive force used by the

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Speaker 14: two officers when they took this fellow with the custody.

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Speaker 14: He's ninety two years old. I mean, he could have

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Speaker 14: blame them over with a feather. So let's just wait

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Speaker 14: and see one police officer appearing at court in July,

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Speaker 14: the other in August.

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Speaker 3: Good to talk to you, Moss, Thank you has always

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Speaker 3: appreciated this Murray Old's Australia correspondent. So this is what

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Speaker 3: you need to know. On the guest front. It is

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Speaker 3: quite It is quite bad. Privately, behind the scenes, some

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Speaker 3: people in the industry are using the words crisis. The

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Speaker 3: loath to do that out Nobody wants to be the

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Speaker 3: one using that word, right, But I don't mind because

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Speaker 3: I haven't got any skin in this game. So I'm

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Speaker 3: happy to pass it on to you that this is

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Speaker 3: what they're saying. They're saying that gas is in a

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Speaker 3: crisis situation for the country. Now. Our gas supply is

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Speaker 3: still falling. According to data which just came out today.

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Speaker 3: It's the Energy quarterly data from the Ministry of Business,

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Speaker 3: Innovation and Employment for the first quarter of this year.

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Speaker 3: They say natural gas net production for the quarter was

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Speaker 3: thirty one point eighty nine peta jules. That's down twelve

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Speaker 3: percent on the year before. So even though last year

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Speaker 3: we weren't getting enough, we're now getting even twelve percent

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Speaker 3: less than that. This means it is the lowest quarterly

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Speaker 3: production since March nineteen eighty five. A planned outage at

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Speaker 3: Puhokuta gas field for maintenance and March has added to

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Speaker 3: the problem. It's going to get worse because now a

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Speaker 3: Capuny gas field is going offline for maintenance in April,

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Speaker 3: and the problem that we've got is that we needed

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Speaker 3: this gas because we've had a dry summer that had

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Speaker 3: less rainfall than we would expect. So we need the

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Speaker 3: gas to meet the demand for electricity because the hydraulacs

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Speaker 3: aren't working that well. Right now, we don't have the gas.

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Speaker 3: What are we doing as right She's burning Huntley's going

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Speaker 3: for it with fire and that coalon Compared to the

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Speaker 3: same quarter last year, there was a ninety nine percent

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Speaker 3: increase in coal for electricity generation. And what that means

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Speaker 3: for greenhouse gas emissions is a twenty one point five

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Speaker 3: percent increase compared to March last year. So when the

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Speaker 3: Greens and Megan Wood says say to you, we don't

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Speaker 3: need gas, just show them this. Yeah, we do need

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Speaker 3: gas because hello, twenty one point five percent increase in

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Speaker 3: greenhouse gas emissions. John Kid, who's an energy analyst, will

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Speaker 3: be with us twenty five to six. Barry Soapers next

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Speaker 3: sixteen away from.

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Speaker 1: Five Politics with centrics, Credit, check your customers and get payments, certainty.

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Speaker 3: Barry Sopar Si your political correspondence with us. Hey, Barry,

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Speaker 3: good afternoon, Heather. When was the last time we made

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Speaker 3: such a big fuss of a visiting international leader. And

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of pomp and ceremony, isn't it.

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Speaker 16: The was a lot of pomp and term You can

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Speaker 16: hear it in the background there. I ran a tape

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Speaker 16: over it and watched the ceremony and fortunately the rain

545
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Speaker 16: didn't come down, and Wellington, the wind was there was

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Speaker 16: on the front lawn of the government house. There was

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Speaker 16: a lot of moldy involvement and you know the last time,

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Speaker 16: Goodness only knows.

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Speaker 3: I haven't even given it the full rundown. There was

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Speaker 3: also a guard of honor for him to inspect and

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Speaker 3: a gun salute from Point Joerningham.

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Speaker 16: But you would expect that, well not the gun salute

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Speaker 16: was a bit surprising, but you've got to remember his sons. Yeah,

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Speaker 16: this man is extraordinarily influential in the Chinese government. I

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Speaker 16: mean he's second in the ranks of the Communist Party

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Speaker 16: in China behind the Secretary General Secretary, who of course

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Speaker 16: as the president, Jijingping. He was here I remember back

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Speaker 16: in twenty fourteen and he had a similar sort of ceremony.

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Speaker 16: But for the current man, it makes him part of

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Speaker 16: the loyalist inner circle of the Chinese Communist Party. He's

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Speaker 16: also the head of government in China. So what this guy.

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Speaker 3: Says goes he's a big deal.

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Speaker 16: Here's a big deal. There were protesters out of his hotel,

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Speaker 16: pro Chinese protesters, anti Chinese protesters. Apparently that quite a

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Speaker 16: bit volatile. We haven't had any of the so called

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Speaker 16: announcements that we're expecting from this visit. They'll, no doubt

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Speaker 16: come tomorrow. They will have been written a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 16: He'll go to dinner at Premierre House tonight. I hope

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Speaker 16: they've got rid of the rodents there and one person

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Speaker 16: who isn't there in terms of residing in it, as

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Speaker 16: Chris Luxen. He still resides down the road at his apartment,

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Speaker 16: not very far away.

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Speaker 3: At all, but he will be at that dinner snight.

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Speaker 7: Wony Oh.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 16: You know, this country to New Zealand to forty billion

577
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Speaker 16: dollar two way trade been growing ever since that free

578
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Speaker 16: trade agreement was signed back in two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 16: I was up in Beijing for it. I was also

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Speaker 16: there with Jasin da Dern, who made less than twenty

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Speaker 16: four hour visit to China. I don't think the Chinese

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Speaker 16: would have been terribly impressed with that.

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Speaker 3: How long is this reduction of the speed limits going

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Speaker 3: to take before they actually are reduced.

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Speaker 16: Well they haven't said that, they said lifted, Yeah exactly,

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Speaker 16: they said that they'll essentially they're setting up a public

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Speaker 16: consultation and the documents gone out today. They'll be putting

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Speaker 16: in place the review and the timing of it. But

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Speaker 16: you know, as we know, during the last labor government,

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Speaker 16: speed signs went up all over the place. There was

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Speaker 16: no consultation at all. And I know that driving to

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Speaker 16: Corrimandel is they call it a ninety kilometer safe zone area.

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Speaker 16: Now that when you turn off the Auckland Motorway it

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Speaker 16: goes on for some considerable time and what wouldn't be

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Speaker 16: a high crash area because it's a pretty straight road.

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Speaker 16: Hopefully that sort of nonsense will be gone. Also the

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Speaker 16: speed limits that have been put in many cities around

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Speaker 16: New Zealand because people don't quite understand. Okay, it's safety,

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Speaker 16: but people don't quite understand. You slow down traffic, you

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Speaker 16: slow down the economy because you slow down deliveries of goods,

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Speaker 16: You slow down you ladies can't get place as fast. Everything,

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Speaker 16: you know, everything has slowed down, and that what was done,

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Speaker 16: and that's what was done. And David Seymour for one,

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Speaker 16: because he's part of that, he's the Regulation Review Minister.

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Speaker 16: He said the scatter gun restrictions based on nanny state ideology,

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Speaker 16: not infer not evidence, are totally depressing. So tackled that

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Speaker 16: one and they're going to do it full on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, what are the farmers farmer announcements?

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Speaker 7: Well, i'll tell you what.

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Speaker 16: The old farmers down at the Egg Day in Hamilton,

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Speaker 16: the National Agricultural meet there the day before yesterday they

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Speaker 16: were told they won't be facing greenhouse gases from next year.

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Speaker 16: Yesterday they were told that a Parliamentary select Committee would

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Speaker 16: be looking at the banking sector with particular reference on

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Speaker 16: the rural sector. Today they boosted rural support trusts to

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Speaker 16: assist struggling farmers. Now these are trusts that have been

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Speaker 16: set up around the country. If a farmers struggling, he

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Speaker 16: doesn't get money, but he gets good advice from these trusts.

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Speaker 16: So money is going and more money is going into that.

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Speaker 16: And finally today they announced a regulatory sector review to

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Speaker 16: basically remove the ridiculous red tape from agriculture and horticultural products.

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Speaker 16: Now some people say it might say, well what does

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Speaker 16: that mean, Well, it means that at the moment, we

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Speaker 16: don't have access to product that makes animals methane a

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Speaker 16: bit slower in terms of omitting it, rye grass.

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Speaker 3: And developing meat investing technology exactly.

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Speaker 16: Yea, so we don't have access to that. There's also

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Speaker 16: science out there that makes vegetable and plants grow faster.

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Speaker 16: We don't have access to that. We are a primary

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Speaker 16: producing country. And I think this red tape it's well

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Speaker 16: and truly beyond the time that it was reviewed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough, Barry, Thank you. Barry Soper, Senior political correspondent.

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Speaker 3: Eight away from five.

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Speaker 2: Digging into the issues that affect you, the my Cosking.

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Speaker 16: Breakfast to the banking inquiries on the finance Minister Nikola

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Speaker 16: willis with us how much of this is a box

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Speaker 16: tech for New Zealand first versus you being invested in

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Speaker 16: what might be real issues.

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Speaker 17: I'm very invested in this. We've had a Comments Commission

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Speaker 17: report that described the top tier of banks in Yeland

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Speaker 17: as being like an olive gottholy and it worries me.

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Speaker 17: So we owe it to ourselves to get to the

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Speaker 17: bottom of these issues.

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Speaker 18: I want our economy to grow.

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Speaker 5: This is critical.

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Speaker 17: Change needs to happen, and change will happen in the

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Speaker 17: banking sector in New Zealand so that New Zealand is

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Speaker 17: a better served. And I know the banks are powerful,

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Speaker 17: but democracy is more powerful. And this inquiry is going

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Speaker 17: to get to the bottom of these issues.

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Speaker 1: Back tomorrow at six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 1: Jaguar News Talk said thee right.

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Speaker 3: Here's a little bit more in that documentary about Chinese

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Speaker 3: interference in New Zealand that's just been dropped to coincide

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Speaker 3: with the arrival of the Chinese Premier, Jamie Lee Ross,

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Speaker 3: isn't it. Of course he is because he was the

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Speaker 3: guy who went around with his little bag collecting the

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Speaker 3: donations from for the National Party. And he talks about

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Speaker 3: how the man who donated the one hundred thousand dollars,

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Speaker 3: remember that was the he got into trouble for the

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Speaker 3: hundy k. He talks about how the man who donated

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Speaker 3: that money talked to national politicians.

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Speaker 19: A strong theme of conversation at the dinner at Jiong

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Speaker 19: Yu Kun's house was we were disappointed as a Chinese

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Speaker 19: community that Young Jen was never made a minister and

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Speaker 19: the government.

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Speaker 20: You know, we've supported your party for a long time.

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Speaker 20: We have helped you get volks, have helped you with

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Speaker 20: money paraphrasing. It was never this direct, but the general

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Speaker 20: theme over and you know, an hour or two conversation,

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Speaker 20: was we've done all this to help you. Why was

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Speaker 20: he never made a minister? We were disappointed by that.

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Speaker 3: So what that's like farmers wanting a farmer to be

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Speaker 3: a minister. That's like the Greene Saintissinaway is one of

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Speaker 3: our Green Party people and not a minister. Like, so what,

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Speaker 3: that's just normal? Of course the Chinese want, of course

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Speaker 3: the Chinese community want a Chinese person to be a minister.

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Speaker 3: But what he's suggesting is Jian Yang was a spy.

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Speaker 3: That's what he's saying, isn't he anyway? Why don't we

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Speaker 3: just ask Andrew Little that when he's with us next,

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Speaker 3: he's going to be with us next. Nicko sent a

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Speaker 3: text through. Nick's been hounding Nick's been harassing me about

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Speaker 3: Tesla and elon Musk. Update here that Tesla's shareholders have spoken.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure the taxpayers of Delaware are overjoyed with that

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Speaker 3: judge who got it way out of erline and led

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Speaker 3: to the departure of one of the state's biggest businesses

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Speaker 3: onto it. Elamsks tweeted saying that the shareholders are going

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Speaker 3: to vote yes for his fifty six billion dollar pay

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Speaker 3: package and also to move out of Delaware. And somebody

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Speaker 3: who's close to all of this, because it hasn't been

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Speaker 3: officially revealed, but somebody close to this has confirmed to

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Speaker 3: Reuter's that yes, it does look like it's going to

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Speaker 3: be a yes. News is Next News took zeb.

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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

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Speaker 1: get the answers, by the facts, and give the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Heather Dupless Alum Drive with One New Zealand Let's get

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Speaker 1: connected and news talk as zaid.

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Speaker 21: Be good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Chinese premiere Lee Chiung has arrived in the country to

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Speaker 3: pomp and ceremony, including a gun salute in Wellington. He's

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Speaker 3: met with the Prime Minister. He loved dinner with the

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Speaker 3: Prime Minister tonight. His visit has coincided with the release

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Speaker 3: of a new documentary about Chinese interference and espionage in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand, including suggestions former National MPs Young Young was

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Speaker 3: a Chinese spy. Andrew Little is a former minister responsible

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Speaker 3: for the GCSPN is with us. Now, hey, Andrew, was

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Speaker 3: that national MP a spy?

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Speaker 22: Well, I can't comment on any of those sorts of

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Speaker 22: things that if has track record as well known, he

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Speaker 22: was associated with a PLA before he came to New Zealand.

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Speaker 22: He educated some of their senior officers and then he

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Speaker 22: came out here. But look, the reality is we know

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Speaker 22: that China and it's a relationship with this diaspora community

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Speaker 22: is a very often a very intense one. We're no

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Speaker 22: different to every other country where there is a significant

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Speaker 22: Chinese diaspora. The Communist Party, through its various machines and

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Speaker 22: organs and organizations, stays in close contact with a lot

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Speaker 22: of those people.

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Speaker 3: If he was a spy, would you, as the Minister

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Speaker 3: for the spies, be told that he was a spy.

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Speaker 22: The Minister gets told of operations that the agencies are doing.

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Speaker 22: Don't necessarily get told of individuals who might be the

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Speaker 22: subject of operations. But if there is a risk, for example,

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Speaker 22: to Parliament or to the beehive or something like that,

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Speaker 22: then the Minister would be advised of that.

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Speaker 3: This documentary claims that China's foreign interference is corroding our democracy.

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Speaker 23: Is it?

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Speaker 22: If you think that the way China conducts. It's nothing

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Speaker 22: much as foreign relations. More it's a relationship with its

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Speaker 22: diaspora community. Were here, for example, in New Zealand a

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Speaker 22: very strong Chinese media, A lot of it is very

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Speaker 22: closely allied to and associated with media organizations in Beijing

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Speaker 22: and a date to the Chinese Communist Party, and that

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Speaker 22: is the Chinese media or New Zealand is the principal

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Speaker 22: source of information to a lot of the Chinese diaspora here,

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Speaker 22: often to the exclusion of local New Zealand media, So

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Speaker 22: it is very influential. And if the principal line coming

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Speaker 22: in that media is the line coming out of Beijing,

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Speaker 22: then that's going to have an impact on the way

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Speaker 22: people living here are going to think about and make

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Speaker 22: decisions about what's happening here.

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Speaker 3: Stuff which is behind this documentary claims that the documentary

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Speaker 3: is going to ramp up tensions, Will it or is

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Speaker 3: this exactly the kind of thing that the Chinese actually expect.

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Speaker 12: Us to do.

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Speaker 22: I don't know what they expect. That The Chinese are

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Speaker 22: very get very brittle about criticism, whether not, of course attendance,

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Speaker 22: I don't know. I think the most important thing is

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Speaker 22: that we ought to have a good conversation not just

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Speaker 22: about China. There are other countries who engage in foreign interference,

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Speaker 22: including in New Zealand, and it's important that we go

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Speaker 22: into international relationship or foreign relationships with other countries with

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Speaker 22: our eyes wide open. And this is about making sure

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Speaker 22: that we're all.

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Speaker 3: Listen, Andrew, without naming names right set aside, they're into

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Speaker 3: influence on their own diaspora, and without naming names, are

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Speaker 3: the Chinese trying to interfere with our democracy at all?

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Speaker 22: The Chinese. The way the Chinese conduct themselves in most

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Speaker 22: countries is to make sure that when governments of the

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Speaker 22: day are making decisions that bear upon Chinese interests, that

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Speaker 22: those decisions are the most favorable to or in the

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Speaker 22: best interests of time. That does happen.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Andrew, thank you, I appreciate your time. As always,

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Speaker 3: it's Andrew Little, former minister responsible for the SAS and

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Speaker 3: the GCSP.

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Speaker 2: Heather Duper.

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Speaker 3: Cler government has announced it's going to be reversing the

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Speaker 3: speed limit reductions that the last government put in place.

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Speaker 3: So speed limits around schools will be thirty k's in

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Speaker 3: urban areas, they'll be sixty k's in rural areas, they'll

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Speaker 3: be variable. New and existing roads of national significance could

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Speaker 3: have a speed limit of one hundred and ten k's

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Speaker 3: per hour if they've been built to high safety standards,

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Speaker 3: and one hundred and twenty k's per hour is an

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Speaker 3: option as well. Sam and Brown is the Transport minist

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Speaker 3: down with us now, Hey, Saman, good evening, would we

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Speaker 3: see one hundred and twenty k road?

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Speaker 18: Well, this is a proposal to say, well, actually, when

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Speaker 18: we're building these new roads of national significance, should we

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Speaker 18: be building them to a standard of one hundred and

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Speaker 18: twenty Currently we've been building them to one hundred and ten.

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Speaker 18: But actually we were in Darst, New Zealanders, whether one

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Speaker 18: hundred and twenty would be an option that that consider

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Speaker 18: should for those roads to help improve the efficiency of

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Speaker 18: our transport network to help people get where they need

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Speaker 18: to go quickly and safely.

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously we're going to say, yes, what do

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Speaker 3: you need to do to make it to make it

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Speaker 3: safe enough for one twenty ks?

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Speaker 24: Well?

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Speaker 18: Well, basically the rules around the safety would be the

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Speaker 18: width of the lanes, the barriers that would be put

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Speaker 18: in place, the amount of space on the booms. Those

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Speaker 18: are the type of things the agency takes into account.

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Speaker 18: We're also making it clear though that when a road

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Speaker 18: is built to that sort of standard, we actually expect

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Speaker 18: the speed limits to be in place from when the

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Speaker 18: road opens, not because of the bureaucratic way the current

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Speaker 18: rule works. It has to go through a very long

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Speaker 18: and arduous process to actually be checked to make sure

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Speaker 18: it is our viewers. If it's built to that standard,

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Speaker 18: it should be had that speed limit from the day

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Speaker 18: it's opened, not a couple of years later.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Cool. If we're frustrated by any of the speed

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Speaker 3: limits that have been imposed on us in the last government,

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Speaker 3: can we assume that they will automatically go back to

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Speaker 3: where they were.

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Speaker 18: So what we're doing is we're basically having a reversal

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Speaker 18: in terms of all of those local roads, all of

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Speaker 18: those those arterial roads are all going to be reversed back.

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Speaker 18: All those state highways, they are going to be reversed

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Speaker 18: back to what they were. We will be making sure

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Speaker 18: that in terms of speed limits around schools though, where

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Speaker 18: there is drew pick up and drop off times, it

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Speaker 18: will be a slower speed limit.

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Speaker 3: Because actually variable though they.

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Speaker 18: Have to be variable only, so it'll be a slower

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Speaker 18: speed limit between I think eight o'clock and nine to

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Speaker 18: thirty in the morning and between two thirty and four

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Speaker 18: in the afternoon, rather than being all around the clock,

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Speaker 18: which is how it's currently done at the moment we're

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Speaker 18: you're seeing thirty KI is proud being put in suburbs

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Speaker 18: across our cities. And you know, you try to fame

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Speaker 18: at ten o'clock at night and it's still thirty kilometers

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Speaker 18: prayer and by the way, no one's actually following those

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Speaker 18: rules and you know what you end up having and

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Speaker 18: I've witnessed it myself, was even and the buses are

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Speaker 18: going over thirty k's proud because they're trying to keep

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Speaker 18: up to their schedules. So the reality is we've got

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Speaker 18: to take a common sense approach to this rather than

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Speaker 18: a blanket approach just to simply slope people down, which

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Speaker 18: is how the last government is doing.

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Speaker 24: Enough.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I can't even hide my excitement. Thank you

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Speaker 3: so much, Simmy and Brown Transport Minister for Ellen that

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Speaker 3: if honestly, how good is that. If you don't agree

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Speaker 3: that that's good, I gotta know why. Listen update on

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Speaker 3: the missing Marter Kupper Dad. So you will have heard

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Speaker 3: this morning that somebody may have spotted him at the

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Speaker 3: hot pools by t row and called the coppers, got

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Speaker 3: out there, called the coppers. It turns out it sounds

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Speaker 3: like the coppers did go round that night. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to be too critical, but

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Speaker 3: maybe like immediately might have been a good idea. But anyway,

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Speaker 3: they did go around that night. They went round to

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Speaker 3: the Okuroire Hot Springs Hotel, which is where you have

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Speaker 3: to buy the pass to be able to get into

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Speaker 3: the hot pools. Went there, spoke to the security, to

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Speaker 3: the receptionist, wanted to check the security camera footage. They

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Speaker 3: themselves did not check the security camera footage. It sounds

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Speaker 3: like they may have asked the staff to check the

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Speaker 3: security camera footage. I mean, I don't want to be critical,

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Speaker 3: but if you are trying to find the guy, maybe

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Speaker 3: you should be checking the security camera footage yourself. Right. Anyhow,

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Speaker 3: hopefully this will help a little bit. Quarter pass. We're

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Speaker 3: going to deal with the gas problem that appears to

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Speaker 3: be getting worse by the quarter and we'll be doing that.

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Speaker 3: And what I mean is by the quarter of the year, obviously,

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Speaker 3: I mean that's probably obviously you Anyway, I didn't need

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Speaker 3: to explain that deal with that in about seventeen minutes,

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Speaker 3: So I'm right now. It's eighteen past five. Other black

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Speaker 3: Caps T twenty World Cup campaign is basically over already

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Speaker 3: and they've only played two games. They've lost both of them.

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Speaker 3: The one they lost today was to the West Indies

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Speaker 3: by thirteen runs. Cricket commentator Brian Waddle is with us

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Speaker 3: now words, Hello.

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Speaker 8: Hill, how did it go so wrong?

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Speaker 24: They weren't prepared properly, they weren't match fit for the

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Speaker 24: first game, and they weren't able to pick it up

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Speaker 24: against one of the better sides. The West Indies playing

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Speaker 24: at home are difficult to play. They prayed pretty well

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Speaker 24: for the first eighteen over us. They had them in

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Speaker 24: trouble of one hundred and twelve for nine, but then

874
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Speaker 24: one player and thirty seven runs off two overs cost

875
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 24: them a chance to get when they got close, but

876
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 24: not close enough. Conditions were difficult and the West Indies

877
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 24: were too good for them.

878
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 3: Do you think that warm up games would have helped?

879
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 24: Of course they would. They would have been able to

880
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 24: play as a team together in conditions that are unusual

881
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 24: in that part of the world. You expect the grounds

882
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 24: and the West Indies in the past, as they have

883
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 24: been the bounty and quick, but now they are of

884
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 24: a very slow nature. The bounce is low and you've

885
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 24: got to get used to that and also get some rhythm.

886
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 24: You can't have players who haven't played match cricket for

887
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 24: three months coming out to play some of the best

888
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 24: sides in the world. In New Zealand unfortunately had a

889
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 24: tough group the West Indies in Afghanistan first up, and

890
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 24: that was going to be their downfall, so at least

891
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 24: one game. The Australians had the same issue that they

892
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 24: made their team up with some of their support staff

893
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 24: so that they had on ground match play and there's

894
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 24: no substitucte for match.

895
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 3: Blow absolutely what was that? Was that arrogance on their paths?

896
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 3: What do you reckon?

897
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 24: No, I don't believe it's arrogance. I think they were

898
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 24: trying to make as much as they could out of

899
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 24: a small space of time. But they've known for quite

900
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 24: some time the dates of this tournament. They have known

901
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 24: when they would have needed to play. They've had players

902
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 24: who were at the IPL so to, Australian so and

903
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 24: so to, but they still got there and were able

904
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 24: to play their warm up matches. New Zealand's planning, to

905
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 24: my mind, was well, we can do a good job

906
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 24: in the nets, we can practice and can conditions we

907
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 24: think they're going to be like. But in my mind

908
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 24: that doesn't take up match play. And so I suppose

909
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 24: you could. You could imagine it's a form of variance,

910
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 24: but I don't think New Zealand are like that when

911
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 24: it comes to these competitions. They've got a record that is,

912
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 24: you know, enviable they've had in past games or now

913
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 24: they're not going to make the last group. Well there

914
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,439
Speaker 24: is a mathematical chance, but it stretches credibility to think

915
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 24: that Afghanistan won't win a game and New Zealand will

916
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 24: win and score you know, a net run rate to

917
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 24: suit them.

918
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 3: Yeah too right. I mean, I'm just going to encourage

919
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: you to let it. Let go any faint hope you

920
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 3: may have as a cricket fan, Otherwise your heart's going

921
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 3: to get broken. Just let it be broken.

922
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 25: Now.

923
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 3: It's Brian What, a longtime cricket commentator and hosts of

924
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 3: the Front Foot podcast five to twenty one. Let's deal

925
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 3: with Kevin Spacey next.

926
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather duper c

927
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: Allen drive with one New Zealand let's get connected and

928
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: use dogs.

929
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 15: That'd be hither.

930
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 3: I'm all for the speed increases, but I fiend up

931
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 3: in an accident, I'm not sure or an ambulance would

932
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 3: turn up. And that is true, but you can always

933
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 3: call a nuba and you can get there like that. Hither.

934
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 3: I live close to Mount Albert in Marristed schools and

935
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 3: the kids come out of the schools all times of

936
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 3: the day, so it's stupid to make the slow speed

937
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 3: at only certain times the day. John fair enough, but

938
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 3: it is quite a wide gap. Like I think it's

939
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 3: two hours either side or something like that. If the

940
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 3: kids are still coming out at half past five, what

941
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 3: the hell are they doing at school? Five twenty four now,

942
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: I watched the Kevin Spacey interview that Pierce Walgan's done,

943
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 3: and look, I'm really sorry to say this, but because

944
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 3: I don't think he deserves us, but I reckon his

945
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 3: career is over. I don't know that he can resuscitate it.

946
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 3: There's a campaign at the moment to try to try

947
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 3: to resuscitate and get him back into acting. He's got

948
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 3: a few very high profile friends who are publicly advocating

949
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 3: for him to be given another chance, as people like

950
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 3: Liam Neeson, Sharon Stone, Stephen Fry and so on. But

951
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 3: I think actually he's done more harm than good with

952
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 3: this interview because, basically, in a nutshell, in this interview,

953
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 3: he admits that he was a creep. I mean, just

954
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 3: he says he was too handsy. It was basically making

955
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: his way of making a move on someone. Now, a

956
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 3: normal human being would probably try, you know, I don't know,

957
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 3: asking someone out on a date or asking for their

958
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 3: phone number. But because he was a Hollywood actor and

959
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: he was a big deal, and he admits that he

960
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 3: was arrogant, he just went straight in there with his hands. Now,

961
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 3: that is the headline that people are going to see

962
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 3: in this interview, right, They're not going to see that

963
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 3: all of the allegations have been disproven against him. They're

964
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 3: just going to see, I was too handsy. That's what

965
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 3: they're going to take away from it. And as for

966
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 3: the allegations, he has been cleared in all of the courts.

967
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's got one civil court case outstanding,

968
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 3: but it's a civil case being brought by a guy

969
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 3: who's already brought a criminal case and that was unproven,

970
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 3: so I don't know how this guy's going to go

971
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: in the civil case. So at the stage, basically Kevin

972
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: Spacey's had nothing proven against him, but don't Unfortunately, I

973
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 3: don't think that's going to be enough. And I don't

974
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 3: want you to get me wrong and think that I'm

975
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 3: cheering for the end of Kevin Spacey's career because I'm

976
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 3: he's a brilliant actor and I would like him to

977
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 3: be given another chance just for the quality of what

978
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 3: we watch, but also because I think he deserves another chance.

979
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think that being a creep warrants

980
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 3: being canceled like he has. He's lost everything, he's lost friends,

981
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 3: he hasn't heard from. What's the name who played Robin

982
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 3: his wife in the House of Carts or her name

983
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 3: is Robin. I don't really know any but I don't

984
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 3: want to know who she is now because she's obviously evil.

985
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 3: His beautiful home in Baltimore is going to go under

986
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 3: the hammer today in the States because he can't pay

987
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: his bills. He owes millions to lawyers for the court cases.

988
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 3: He says he's flat broke. He doesn't even have any

989
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 3: way of making money now because he's been canceled by Hollywood.

990
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 3: No one wants to hire him, and he was even

991
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 3: scrubbed out by Ridley Scott in a movie that he'd

992
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 3: finished shooting. They've got someone else and to play the

993
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 3: character and replace him. If there's one thing that we've

994
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 3: learned from Me Too and the cancel culture that came

995
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 3: with it, it's that the mob mentality in this world

996
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 3: is unforgiving. And even if he's done legally nothing wrong,

997
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 3: being a creep I think will probably be enough to

998
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 3: keep him canceled.

999
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, ever, do for see Ellen.

1000
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've been following the drama in

1001
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 3: Wellington over the sale of the airport shares and the council,

1002
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 3: but it has got you. See let me tell you

1003
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 3: about this, Okay. So basically, the reason I'm loving this

1004
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 3: situation is because it's split the left voting block. So

1005
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 3: the labor guys and the Green guys have formed this

1006
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 3: cabbal on Wellington Council and they just pushed through all

1007
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 3: of these stupid ideas one after the other. There's nothing

1008
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 3: you can do because there's enough of them to just

1009
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 3: keep pushing through the stupid ideas. But now three of

1010
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 3: the counselors, Niko we Neerer, he's a greenie, and then

1011
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 3: two labor guys, Noureddin Abdurahman and Ben McNulty. The three

1012
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 3: of them are so upset about the council voting recently

1013
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 3: to sell the airport shares that they are now saying

1014
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 3: they're no longer going to commit to voting in cohoots

1015
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 3: with the mayor and doing what she wants to do.

1016
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 3: And the reason that's across with the mayor is because

1017
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 3: the mayor had previously said she would not sell the

1018
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 3: airport shares, but and a whole bunch of other green

1019
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 3: councils as well. But now it's changed her mind, hasn't

1020
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 3: she And these three ain't got no respect for that

1021
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 3: kind of flip flopping. So they're breaking away. And that's

1022
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 3: a big problem for her because it's only because they've

1023
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 3: all been voting together as a green red block that

1024
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 3: they've been able to do all the crazy stuff like

1025
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,240
Speaker 3: housing density and ruining the inner city roads and stuff

1026
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 3: like that. Without these three, Tory can't count on them

1027
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 3: doing what she wants them to do. She just she's

1028
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 3: gonna have to negotiate and water things down. How good

1029
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 3: is this? Finally some good news from Wellington City Council.

1030
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 3: We'll deal with the gas shortage decks.

1031
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: The day's newsmakers talk to Heather first, Heather duple c

1032
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: Allen drive with One New Zealand. Let's get connected and

1033
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: news talk as that'd be Donald.

1034
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: On me out the double shadow whiskey. They nummist. There's

1035
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 2: a party.

1036
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 14: Downtown near fire Stream.

1037
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 2: Everybody had budet.

1038
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 3: Heye guns mouse. It's gonna develop a voluntary gender pay

1039
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 3: reporting thing. Thank god it's a voluntary, and opt me

1040
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 3: out of that anyway. The Minister for Women is gonna

1041
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 3: be with us after six o'clock, talk us through that.

1042
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 3: The Huddles standing by, got Mark Sainsbury this evening with

1043
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 3: Richard Hill's. I think Mark Sainsbury's a huddle virgin, so

1044
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 3: we're gonna pop that cherry in just a tick. Whether

1045
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 3: the men need to learn to keep their hands to themselves.

1046
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 3: I'm seventy. Older men want to touch younger women. They

1047
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 3: believe their touch is warranted. It's not. It never has been, Judy,

1048
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 3: thank you for that. A little bit of news on

1049
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 3: the I don't know if you've been following this, but

1050
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 3: this has been fascinating to me. There's a US transgender

1051
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 3: swimmer called Leah Thomas. Now Leah has become kind of

1052
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 3: like the poster girl for transgender athletes. She has just

1053
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 3: lost any chance of competing in the Paris Olympics next month.

1054
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 3: She took a legal case she was banned from. First

1055
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 3: of all, she's banned by World Aquatics from swimming in

1056
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 3: the female category. So she tried to overturn that. Took

1057
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 3: a legal case against World Aquatics at the Court of

1058
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 3: Arbitration for Sport in the hopes of trying to get

1059
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 3: to the Paris Olympics. She's just lost. The court concluded

1060
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 3: that Thomas was simply not entitled to engage with eligibility

1061
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 3: to compete in World Aquatics competitions as someone who was

1062
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 3: no longer a member of US Swimming. Twenty three away

1063
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 3: from six.

1064
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: Heather duper Cela.

1065
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 3: New Zealand's energy troubles are getting worse. Gas supply dropped

1066
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 3: twelve percent in the March quarter. That's twelve percent down

1067
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 3: compared to the same time last year. This is the

1068
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 3: lowest quarterly net production since nineteen eighty five. Now, gas

1069
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 3: was down because of the decrease in overall production, but

1070
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 3: also a planned outage in the Poor Hookurta gas field,

1071
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 3: and this has led to a staggering ninety nine percent

1072
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 3: rise in coal being burnt for electricity. Also, greenhouse gas

1073
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 3: emissions are up twenty one point five percent. John Kidd

1074
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 3: is the director and head of research at Analytica and

1075
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 3: with us. Now, hey, John, even here are we in trouble.

1076
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 23: We're in the stress system. We have a structurally short

1077
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 23: of energy full stop. So it's often lost on people

1078
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 23: that we don't have enough energy in the country to

1079
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 23: be able to support our demands, so we do lie

1080
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 23: on international markets. Anyway, think about the card of your drive.

1081
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 23: There's nothing in the fuel tentk of that car. Those

1082
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 23: of us drive petrol engines, which is it's made domestically.

1083
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 23: So we import energy and when we're short, as we

1084
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 23: are increasingly short more broadly, then we need to import

1085
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 23: more energy to keep ourselves feed from day to day.

1086
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 23: So now your question is how are we in trouble? Well,

1087
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 23: you know, we're becoming sure of indigenous energy and therefore

1088
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 23: we're having to rely on international energy more and.

1089
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 3: The international energy, obviously is coal that we're pumping into hunt.

1090
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 23: They right, that's right, yeah, And that's a function of

1091
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 23: a few things as well. So you've got you do

1092
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 23: have lower gas coming into the system, and gas is

1093
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 23: a preferable fuel of coal. Of course, coal is the

1094
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,720
Speaker 23: fuel of last result if you like, for the elytricity sector,

1095
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 23: but you've got other factors in there as well. We

1096
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 23: had two very wet years last year and the year before,

1097
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 23: and that's often lost on people too, So we had

1098
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 23: a lot of hydro on the system. We had a

1099
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 23: lot of higher ranking pupil in the system, and we

1100
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 23: don't have it this year. We're well blown average for

1101
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 23: this time of the year the hydro and the last

1102
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 23: two years also we had very soft heart and we're

1103
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 23: now starting to see real demand growth coming through in electricity.

1104
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 23: So if you put all that together, we need more

1105
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 23: of this stuff to come out of the wires at

1106
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 23: the end of the day. And if we don't have

1107
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 23: gas to come into the system, we don't have hydro,

1108
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 23: then we need to look to something else. And unfortunately

1109
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 23: that's so John.

1110
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:56,959
Speaker 3: If we're down on the hydra lakes at the moment

1111
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 3: and we're dropping in the gas, does that mean And

1112
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 3: there's a thank you so much that Huntley can burn.

1113
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 3: Does that mean that we're going to have power outages

1114
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 3: this winter?

1115
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 23: That's been a risk for a while. We've been concerned

1116
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 23: about that for some time. You know, there's it does

1117
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 23: boil down to the peak. So when we are in

1118
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 23: the coldest period of winter, sojer this home of night

1119
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 23: and into the evening, and we don't have much wind

1120
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 23: coming through the system, obviously soul is not a factor,

1121
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 23: then we need to call on what is available to us.

1122
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 23: And we've already been told by the system operator transfer

1123
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 23: And it's a general concern across the sector that this winter,

1124
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 23: during those periods of what we call dunkle flout, which

1125
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 23: is you know, the doldrums where we don't have that

1126
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 23: wind and there is no sun and we're constrained with

1127
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 23: other afields coming into the system, then there is the

1128
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 23: risk that we will not have enough juice to be

1129
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 23: able to meet thought about okay.

1130
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 3: How far how long before we call this a crisis.

1131
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 23: Crisis just isn't a word that really enters the sector's head,

1132
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 23: to be frank, you know, it's a matter of just

1133
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 23: making things work. There will be many things that can

1134
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 23: be done along the way to help manage the situation,

1135
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 23: and you know seeing us in the gas sector as well.

1136
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 23: What's often lost in all the noise of this is

1137
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 23: that we're seeing some pretty dramatic side responses here. So

1138
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 23: methodex is our biggest energy user nominally by far, they're

1139
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 23: well down on that consumption now and it's the worst

1140
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 23: kind of an outside response. I's a massive export, a

1141
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 23: billion or exporter out of Taranaki who can't run at

1142
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 23: for capacity because they don't have the fuel available to them.

1143
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 23: So you know what I'm trying to say is the

1144
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 23: system will adjust. Unfortunately it's not a cost of sex

1145
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 23: size and demand will generally come off to help meat

1146
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 23: supply as well as supply meeting demand.

1147
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 3: Well here's hoping, John, Thank you so much, really appreciated.

1148
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 3: John Kid, director and head of research at Analytic at.

1149
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 3: Just to remind you why demand will come off is

1150
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 3: because we're asking some of our big project our big

1151
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 3: manufacturers to stop their work when we need them to.

1152
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 3: That should not be happening in a first world country.

1153
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 3: Nineteen away from six.

1154
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's international Realty, unparalleled reach

1155
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: and results.

1156
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 3: I'm huddled with me. This evening we have Richard Hill's

1157
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 3: Auckland counselor and Mark Sainsbury Men's Health Week Director. Hello

1158
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 3: you too, sain Zo. How do you feel about this

1159
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 3: your first time? Do you have trepidation or just like

1160
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 3: taking it?

1161
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: At my story?

1162
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 18: Neither. I had to take a sedative before I came on,

1163
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 18: and I was just getting so excited.

1164
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 3: I like the fact that you've come in all hot

1165
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 3: and just given us a hard time. I appreciate it.

1166
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 21: She's way nicer than she pretend she is.

1167
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 3: This is what Richard has to do. He has to

1168
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 3: go around all his lefty friends saying she's not actually

1169
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 3: that bad. She's really nice.

1170
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 21: She tells me that she pays me to do that.

1171
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1172
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they still don't believe it.

1173
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 23: Ridgid.

1174
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 3: The speed limit reversals, how good.

1175
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 21: I think it's a bit weird that they are all

1176
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 21: about localism, telling you know, local councils that can do

1177
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 21: everything three waters, and then they're going to make us

1178
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 21: spend tons of money to reverse all these changes right across.

1179
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 3: You shouldn't have done it in the first place, but

1180
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 3: you spent money in the first place.

1181
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 21: Yeah, I know, but most of it was the requests

1182
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 21: I get from my community from school, some of them

1183
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 21: are angry that we haven't put it in. You've got

1184
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 21: town centers, all of it has been consulted on. I

1185
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 21: don't know what they keep talking about. These blanket restrictions,

1186
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 21: they'll blanket possibilities. They were actually brought in by a

1187
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 21: national before Labor Craig Foss and others led a program

1188
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 21: around safe for communities because we will have we're twenty

1189
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 21: ninth out of thirty three OECD countries for deaths and

1190
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 21: serious injuries.

1191
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 3: So from what I saw, it sounded to me like

1192
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 3: it has to reverse unless the locals want it right.

1193
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 3: So there's still the opportunity for localism.

1194
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 21: Right, so we'll have to know. Well, what I read

1195
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 21: from today is that we've got to reverse them all,

1196
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:29,280
Speaker 21: then consult again. We've already consulted like schools, everyone, local

1197
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 21: town centers around Devenport, everyone. You know, the submissions were

1198
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 21: in favor of those things, so it's kind of weird

1199
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 21: that we have to remove them all. I don't know

1200
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 21: how much is going to cost to do that. And

1201
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 21: then consulting says.

1202
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 3: Are you ever being consulted on a speed limit?

1203
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: No?

1204
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 3: No, me neither. It's weird that Richard is getting all

1205
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 3: this consultation. Are you into the reversal?

1206
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 18: Well, look, I mean, you know, I like driving. I

1207
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 18: think some of the roads if if they could have

1208
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 18: a high speed limit. I mean, like those big the

1209
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 18: new big huge motorways. So why can expressway and things

1210
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 18: like that. I've got no problem with the highest speed

1211
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 18: limit on that. Our biggest problem here is we've just

1212
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 18: got to improve our driving. You we're going to have

1213
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 18: highest speed limits. That's the biggest problem on the New Zealand.

1214
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 3: Are you of the view saying so that we are

1215
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 3: not good drivers in this country?

1216
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 18: Look, we all think suffer a bit of the problem

1217
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 18: that we think we're reading good drivers. I'm guilty about

1218
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 18: myself and then you sort of catch yourself out doing

1219
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 18: something stupid, you know, and and you change, I think

1220
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 18: as you get older. But there's that lot of aggression

1221
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 18: on the road, you know, and that sort of And

1222
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 18: I remember talking to a psychiatrist about it once on

1223
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 18: a radio.

1224
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 23: Show I had, and he said, when you get into.

1225
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 18: A car, it's like your own little space, you know.

1226
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,479
Speaker 18: And it's the same as you know, people do weird

1227
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 18: things inside their cars, you know, you know, you drive

1228
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 18: past and someone's picking their nose.

1229
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 22: Why because they're oblivious reading outside?

1230
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:52,959
Speaker 24: Yeah?

1231
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 3: Yeah too?

1232
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 10: Right?

1233
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 3: Do you do these things?

1234
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 18: Richard know?

1235
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 21: I'm mostly on the bus so I can read my

1236
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 21: emails and do a tweet.

1237
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, I do.

1238
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 4: I do.

1239
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 3: The thing says are where I sing in the car?

1240
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 3: I think that nobody's going to see the psycho singing

1241
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 3: over there to do that.

1242
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 21: Then you look and there's a bus of ninety people

1243
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 21: looking down there.

1244
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 7: I haven't looked at you.

1245
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 3: All right, we'll take a break with you guys. Come

1246
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 3: back very shortly. It's sixteen away from six. Right, you're

1247
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 3: back with the huddle, Mark Sainsbury and Richard Hill's Mark.

1248
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,439
Speaker 3: There is some analysis OWT today. It shows the huge

1249
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 3: difference between what some people in local government get paid

1250
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 3: in others like Auckland's mayor gets about three hundred thousand,

1251
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 3: but then counselors in Stratford get twenty three thousand dollars.

1252
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 3: What do you think is the right level? Like should

1253
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 3: councilors be paid less or more?

1254
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: What?

1255
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 18: Less than less than the maya?

1256
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 2: Low the lower end?

1257
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 3: Like should we be looking at paying counselors around about

1258
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 3: twenty three thousand dollars. You're making it a job for

1259
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 3: people who are competent but don't need it for the money,

1260
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 3: or should we be lifting it and then tracting better people.

1261
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 18: In well you see, I mean this is a good thing,

1262
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 18: Richard Syre, because you look at Stretford, you're getting twenty

1263
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 18: three thousand. Now a council in Auckland is getting paid

1264
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 18: more more than four times that. So are they doing

1265
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 18: four times for work or four times small responsibility? Of

1266
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 18: course it just as Stratford count afford to pay the Stratford.

1267
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 21: I worked out if it was based on population, I'd

1268
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 21: be paid four and a half million dollars a year

1269
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 21: because Stratford has we have more staff members than Stratford

1270
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 21: has their nine thousand pop.

1271
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 3: I mean you would be doing more work than a

1272
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 3: counselor in Stratford, right, yeah, So it's definitely.

1273
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 21: In place, full time, nighttime, weekend job like And you know,

1274
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 21: I think most people don't realize and this is not

1275
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 21: defending counselors because everyone hates counsel anyway, but you know,

1276
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 21: we have three times the population of an MP does

1277
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 21: in our ward. So I'm dealing with request constantly and

1278
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 21: we don't have like an office like an MP does

1279
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 21: of people that just I don't know, do our comms

1280
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 21: and stuff for us. So I think it has to

1281
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 21: be based on effort. I know there's some counselors that

1282
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 21: do not put in the effort, but it is a

1283
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 21: name name Richard name names I will not but it

1284
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 21: is a significant role and in some areas maybe you

1285
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 21: do need to look at That's why amalgamation I think

1286
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 21: is a good thing, because you have, you know, people

1287
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 21: working full time instead of just like a oh go

1288
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 21: on the Wednesday meeting and you're not really thinking about

1289
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 21: the council at all.

1290
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:06,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1291
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 18: Is it expected to be a full time job?

1292
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 21: Yes, we're paid over one hundred thousand dollars. I am

1293
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 21: assuming most people would expect us to be full time

1294
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 21: and I definitely.

1295
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 3: What about in Wellington? Saying so, is that expected to

1296
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 3: be a full time job for your counselors?

1297
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 18: And I think it is because I'm so surprised the

1298
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 18: MIA and Wellington on he gets one hundred and eighty

1299
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 18: three thousand, We've got a two hundred do down here.

1300
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 3: No, I don't think No, I don't think you do,

1301
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 3: saying so, we'll have a little chat about what Toy

1302
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 3: has been up to. Hey, sain, So do you reckon

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Speaker 3: Kevin Spacey post the Pierce Morgan interview?

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Speaker 7: Will ever be back?

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Speaker 18: It's funny. I don't know where this climate's said. It

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Speaker 18: was interesting watching him and he was talking about things,

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Speaker 18: you know, like it wasn't you know he was offend

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Speaker 18: of the tomb broke. I was engrossing people, I was

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Speaker 18: caressing them and all the sort of And look, we've

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Speaker 18: all worked in offices. We've seen people who have behaved

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Speaker 18: appallingly doing and it just sort of got waved away.

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Speaker 18: But he's he's been out there, it's in public. It's

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Speaker 18: can you possibly come back? I just think it'd be

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Speaker 18: so hard, right, Yeah, I think he should.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as my boss said to me today, Richard, I

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Speaker 3: think he should too. Right, he hasn't done anything that's

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Speaker 3: been proven to be wrong. But as my boss sat today,

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Speaker 3: but who's going to put money behind this guy? Who's

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Speaker 3: going to be like, I'm spending millions and millions and

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Speaker 3: millions of dollars on a film and you're the guy

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Speaker 3: that's going to star in it.

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Speaker 21: Well, that's the thing that the public will be. The

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Speaker 21: public they're going to put their dollar where they want to.

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Speaker 3: I don't watch him, would you?

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Speaker 21: I'm not sure I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I did watch House of Cards and didn't you think

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Speaker 3: he was awesome?

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Speaker 7: Well, I don't know that.

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Speaker 21: I didn't watch the interview, but having an interview with

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Speaker 21: Piers Morgan is probably a bit of a red flag

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Speaker 21: at this point of time, do you think so?

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Speaker 24: Well?

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Speaker 21: I think Piers Morgan tries to be the kind of

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Speaker 21: anti everything guy at the moment, doesn't he try and

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Speaker 21: rack everyone up? So I didn't watch the interview. It

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Speaker 21: will be up to the people, like they're always going

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Speaker 21: to put in my and they you know, you see

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Speaker 21: all sorts of celebrities go up and down in their careers,

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Speaker 21: and that's largely because, as you say, they'd.

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Speaker 7: Go and pull the community and go.

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Speaker 21: Would you watch a movie with X person in it

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Speaker 21: and they disappear or they might come back?

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Speaker 22: So right?

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Speaker 3: So is are you a little worried about the gas

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Speaker 3: situation and what's going to happen with the power this winter?

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Speaker 18: Yeah? Yeah, I mean this whole you know, I keep

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Speaker 18: trying to get my head around the whole gas situation.

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Speaker 18: I've knowing people have been in the sort of the

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Speaker 18: gas industry. And I remember at the times when you know,

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Speaker 18: when they're cutting back on exploration and that that whole

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Speaker 18: argument of you know, why we're burning filthy stuff from

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Speaker 18: Indonesia when we should be even you know, it's more

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Speaker 18: ecologically sound to sort of harvest it from here. So

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Speaker 18: but that whole I mean, that's listening to listening to

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Speaker 18: that guy he was It was actually quite frightening, wasn't it.

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Speaker 18: But if you're talking about major industries can't actually churn

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Speaker 18: out what they need to to keep the country going.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I reckon that is the word that

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Speaker 3: I that I think sums it up. I'm a little

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Speaker 3: bit scared of where this is going, Richard, aren't you.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, I think we do need to look at what

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Speaker 21: the whole world is going is dropping off coal, so

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Speaker 21: us you're we're not going to Well, we only have

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Speaker 21: popped up in twenty twenty two, and the using figures

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Speaker 21: this year from a quarter last year was our lowest

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Speaker 21: in thirty years. So I think people are trying to

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Speaker 21: use a bit of shock taxics by saying this is

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Speaker 21: one hundred percent worse than last year. Well, if last

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Speaker 21: year was our lowest since I was off an then

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Speaker 21: let's not go over the top. But we do need

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Speaker 21: to look at that time. How do we be resilient

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Speaker 21: in this time when we are decarbonizing. You look at

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Speaker 21: all the businesses Fonterra are you know, changing all their

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Speaker 21: coal boilers to electric and schools are doing that. But

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Speaker 21: you don't want to flip it that you're electrifying everything

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Speaker 21: and then having to use coal. That's right, but I

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Speaker 21: think there is that we just need a bit of

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Speaker 21: sense in there. But I honestly believe if all the

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Speaker 21: parties around Parliament could work together instead of this back

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Speaker 21: and forth all the time, because I think if you

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Speaker 21: have a series of facts, then you don't upset these

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Speaker 21: communities and people can feel like you're.

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Speaker 3: Agreeing how you're going to do it and work towards it.

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Speaker 3: Year I've had a text saying exactly the same thing.

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Speaker 3: I think you bang on guys, it's so good to

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Speaker 3: talk to you. Thank you. Mark Sainsbury for Men's Health

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Speaker 3: Week and Richard Hill's Auckland councilor seven Away from six

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Speaker 3: What the Huddle.

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Speaker 1: With New Zealand Southerby's International Realty Exceptional Marketing for every

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Speaker 1: property on your smart speaker on the iHeart app and

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Speaker 1: in your car on your drive home. Heather Duplicy allan

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Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand one Giant Leap for Business

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Speaker 1: News Talks be Heather.

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Speaker 3: The problem with the gas shortage is that it chases

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Speaker 3: up the price of electricity and impacts the manufacturing industry.

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Speaker 3: Most the cost of power is set by the generator

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Speaker 3: that is the most expensive, so on peak periods, costs

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Speaker 3: this year have peaked at three thousand dollars per Mega

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Speaker 3: what hour three years ago. Get a load of this.

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Speaker 3: Three thousand dollars per Mega what hour? Three years ago

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01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 3: we paid fifty five dollars per Mega what hour. Now

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Speaker 3: on an average consistently above two twenty per Mega what hour.

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Speaker 3: Just our industry this year cost thirty five million more

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Speaker 3: than we had planned. And this will be the end

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Speaker 3: to the New Zealand manufacturing sector. And it's really unfortunate.

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Speaker 3: I hope that doesn't happen, but unfortunately it sounds very

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Speaker 3: much like it may do. Heather. Kevin Spacey, here's some

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Speaker 3: hope for him for a redemption story. David Reckons in

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Speaker 3: five years is going to get a minor supporting role.

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Speaker 3: People will marvel at how good he is because he is,

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Speaker 3: and then it will spiral to main roles. And as

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Speaker 3: David says, Hollywood loves a redemption story. He's hoping the

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Speaker 3: UK nurse Lucy Letby, who murdered those seven babies, is

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Speaker 3: back before the courts for another allegation of murdering another baby.

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Speaker 3: This one they're doing again because the jury in the

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Speaker 3: first trial couldn't decide on this particular baby. The court's

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Speaker 3: been and listen, this is interesting because there was that

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Speaker 3: New York Post article, very very big article, really questioning

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Speaker 3: whether she had actually done anything at all, or whether

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Speaker 3: the UK had The jury in fact, had kind of

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Speaker 3: got caught up in this mania around the possibility that

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Speaker 3: she may have done it. The court's been told she

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Speaker 3: was caught virtually red handed dislodging the newborn babies breathing

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Speaker 3: tube only two hours after the baby was born. Baby

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Speaker 3: was born very premature or something like fifteen weeks, and

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Speaker 3: the allegation is she's in the room with the baby,

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Speaker 3: she dislodges the breathing tube. In comes a doctor sees

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Speaker 3: the nurses just standing there above the baby doing nothing.

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Speaker 3: The baby's blood oxygen levels of collapse, the alarms should

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Speaker 3: be going off to tell the staff there's a problem,

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Speaker 3: but this time they haven't and they reckon the reason

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Speaker 3: the alarms didn't go off because somebody had turned them off.

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Speaker 3: The court was told the baby then collapsed twice in

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Speaker 3: the following hours, both of the times. This nurse was present.

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Speaker 3: On both occasions. The prosecutor said that the breathing tube

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Speaker 3: had been displaced. Baby can't have done it itself because

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Speaker 3: it was too premature and it was heavily sedated on morphine.

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Speaker 3: Indo Brady, our UK correspondent, will talk us through it

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Speaker 3: later in the show. Next up, let's talk about the

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Speaker 3: voluntary gender pay reporting newstooks had.

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Speaker 2: Been what's down?

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Speaker 1: What were the major calls and how will it affect

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Speaker 1: the economy of the big business questions on the Business

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Speaker 1: Hour with hither duplicy Ellen into my hr on NEWSTALKSV.

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Speaker 3: Even coming up in the next hour, Sam Dickey's going

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Speaker 3: to talk us through Apple's big AI play and whether

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Speaker 3: investors are buying It's Jamie mckaye with the latest from

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Speaker 3: Field Days, and then Liam dan on the possibility that

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Speaker 3: Fitch might actually downgrade us in the ratings. Right now

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Speaker 3: it's seven past six now the governments announced it's planning

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Speaker 3: to bring involuntary reporting of companies gender pay gaps. The

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Speaker 3: gender pay gap is currently eight point six percent in

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Speaker 3: the Ministry for Women will work on a way to

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Speaker 3: help businesses calculate their pay gaps. Louise Upston is the

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Speaker 3: acting Minister for Women and with us Now, hey Louise, Hey,

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Speaker 3: you doing Heather very well?

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Speaker 8: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: So what orders is this going to be? Is it

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Speaker 3: going to be public reporting of the pay gap or

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Speaker 3: is it just going to be reporting it privately to

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Speaker 3: the Ministry for Women.

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Speaker 5: No, So this is basically developing a tool that means

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Speaker 5: business are able to calculate their own gender pay gap.

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Speaker 5: What we know is that the first to understand what

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Speaker 5: the gap is and then each business can develop a

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Speaker 5: plan or how to reduce it. So the first part

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Speaker 5: is making sure that there's a consistent fool that businesses

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Speaker 5: can use.

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Speaker 3: Right and so when when that tool is developed, will

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Speaker 3: it be publicly reported or just reported privately to the

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Speaker 3: government agency.

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Speaker 5: Well, it won't be reported to the government agency. It's

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Speaker 5: for businesses to use themselves.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I see, partly reported themselves if they.

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Speaker 6: Want to, that's right.

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Speaker 5: So we do know for champions to change organizations. They

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Speaker 5: are already participating in a process where they are looking

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Speaker 5: at their gender pay gap. Some businesses are reporting it publicly.

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Speaker 5: What we want the focus to be on is businesses

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Speaker 5: have a tool that is consistent and simple to use

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Speaker 5: where they can measure their own gender pay gap and

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Speaker 5: then they can develop a plan to reduce the gap

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Speaker 5: in their workforce. We think this is a really important

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Speaker 5: first step. So businesses can take those steps and we

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Speaker 5: can see the gender pay gap reduce.

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Speaker 3: Do these tools already exist?

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Speaker 5: Some of them do what we do know we've learned

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Speaker 5: from the example in Australia it can be incredibly complicated,

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Speaker 5: and what we do want to do is make sure

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Speaker 5: it's as easy as possible for businesses to measure under

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Speaker 5: pay gap.

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Speaker 6: Which is wise.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're not the first people in the world

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Speaker 3: to be doing this, right, this is done all over

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Speaker 3: the world. It's already being done by some businesses in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand. So why don't we just use the tool

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Speaker 3: they've already got.

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Speaker 5: Well, there's some level of concern around the tool that's

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Speaker 5: being use, so we want to make sure we've got

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Speaker 5: a simple one that is effective. What we don't want

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Speaker 5: to do is have a very expensive regulatory system like

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Speaker 5: they have in Australia. The costs about ten billion dollars.

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Speaker 5: They have a separate regulator and every business over a

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Speaker 5: particular size has to report. We want a practical tool

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Speaker 5: that we're developing with business that other businesses will then

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Speaker 5: pick up a use.

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Speaker 3: So it's not as simple as saying you've got one

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Speaker 3: hundred and twenty women and on average they get paid X,

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Speaker 3: and you've got one hundred and twenty men in the

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Speaker 3: business on an average they get paid a bigger X.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't work like that. You don't just add them

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Speaker 3: together and divide it by the number.

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Speaker 5: No, because if you think about part time employment and

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Speaker 5: you think about bonuses, you think about are we calculating mean,

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Speaker 5: average or median? So it is about but what we

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Speaker 5: do want to make sure we're doing is being able

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Speaker 5: to calculate it consistently and have a tool that businesses

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Speaker 5: can be confident about. And also you are if you

1519
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 5: are a potential employee looking at going to work for

1520
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 5: an organization and they publish their gender pay gap, you

1521
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 5: want to have confidence that that information is accurate.

1522
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 3: Louise, I'll tell you what my problem with the gender

1523
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 3: pay gap is you could tell me how we fix

1524
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 3: the situation. Okay, let's look at the business that I

1525
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 3: work for. The two highest earners in this business I

1526
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 3: would take a punt, would be the CEO and Mike

1527
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 3: Hosking bloke. Now, that would skew things like that's going

1528
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 3: to skew things massively in the male favor. But it's not.

1529
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 3: That doesn't that's not unfair because Mike Hosking is in

1530
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 3: that position regardless of whether he's a bloke, because he

1531
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 3: is just the best at that job, and the CEO

1532
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 3: just happens to be a bloke, could be a lady,

1533
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 3: but this time it's a bloke. So how do you

1534
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 3: get around that where you've got some very prominent high

1535
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 3: owners who will skew things and make it look like

1536
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 3: there's a gender cave pay gap when perhaps if you

1537
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 3: come down a level, there's no gender pay gap.

1538
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1539
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 5: So what some sectors are doing that is much further

1540
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 5: down this track than others is they are able to

1541
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 5: look at their data and assess what's the gender pay

1542
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 5: gap in the senior leadership team, what's the gender pay

1543
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 5: gap at the operational level of the business, what is

1544
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 5: the gender pay gap in Auckland. So they are able

1545
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 5: to analyze their data in a range of different ways

1546
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 5: that can lead to meaningful action that they then take

1547
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 5: to reduce the gender pay gap. Soaking in consideration, Yeah,

1548
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 5: some of those things, absolutely, and it's got to be

1549
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 5: meaningful and it's got to lead to options a business

1550
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 5: can take to lead to change that reduces the gender

1551
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 5: pay gap, because that's the end goal here. We want

1552
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 5: to reduce the gender pay gap.

1553
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 3: Luis, thank you so much. Appreciated that this is Louise

1554
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 3: upstin acting Minister for Women. I'll tell you what, it's

1555
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 3: a good thing that they're not going through with it

1556
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 3: making it compulsory, right, because that is just red tape

1557
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 3: all over the shop when David Ceen was doing such

1558
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 3: an admirable job at the moment of cutting the old

1559
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 3: red tape speaking of cussing. Looks like we might be

1560
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 3: in trouble with our rating from Fitch. If you listen

1561
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 3: to the guy who is the Sovereign's director for Asia

1562
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,679
Speaker 3: Pacific who's given an interview to Business Deest today, we're

1563
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 3: in line for a downgrade if we don't get a

1564
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 3: downgrade this year. It sounds like it's a line call.

1565
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 3: They're worried about They've had a look at the budget

1566
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 3: and they do not like what they see. They're worried

1567
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 3: about the debt, they're worried about the deficits. They're worried

1568
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 3: about about China not growing particularly well. Liam Dan's going

1569
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 3: to talk us through that shortly. Also Ender Brady, when

1570
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 3: he's with us, I want to talk to him. I

1571
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 3: want to talk to him about the UK election, because

1572
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 3: every single day that this campaign goes on, I am

1573
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 3: just increasingly convinced that whoever they end up with is

1574
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 3: going to be Kiir Starmer. It's just a crappy choice.

1575
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 3: The pack of it's a pack of losers running for

1576
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 3: the prime minister over there. So what they're doing at

1577
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 3: the moment between Sir Kiir Starmer and Rishi I'm a

1578
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 3: billionaire sunak As, they're having a little competition to see

1579
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 3: who's more normal, Like, who's more normal and exactly like

1580
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 3: the working man. And so Rishi was trying very desperately

1581
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 3: to sound like he actually just had a normal upbringing.

1582
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 3: And so he said, oh, you know I had to

1583
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,600
Speaker 3: go without when I was young, Yeah, I had to

1584
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 3: have some sacrifices. So I could go to my private

1585
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 3: boarding school. Had to have sacrifices. They're like, oh, yeah,

1586
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 3: what did you go without? He's like, oh yeah, no sacrifice.

1587
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 3: Yeah what did you go without? Sky TV? Well, okay,

1588
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 3: that's going without. But it's not like you had to

1589
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:59,560
Speaker 3: go without shoes or the heata, you know, like you

1590
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 3: can live that sky TV. Mate, you should be outside

1591
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 3: running anyway. You're a kid. Anyway, Kirstarmer could not possibly

1592
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 3: let Rashid get away with that. So Kia was like me, neither.

1593
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:10,679
Speaker 3: I also did not have Sky when I was young.

1594
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 3: I also went without. Well, Andrew Neil launched sky TV

1595
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 3: in the UK and called kir Starmer out and he

1596
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,639
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, you didn't have sky when you were young,

1597
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 3: because I launched sky when you were twenty seven years old.

1598
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 3: Pack of losers and just thank God every day that

1599
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 3: they are not running for the politicians, the prime minister,

1600
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like look around and go well,

1601
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 3: I mean it's Chloe, but at least it's not Kia.

1602
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:38,719
Speaker 3: Ender Brady on that later on quarter.

1603
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 15: Past crunching the numbers and getting the results, it's Heather

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Speaker 2: Auckland, Heather Duplicy Ellen Hither.

1622
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Speaker 3: This is ridiculous. We do not need a tool for

1623
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 3: the gender pay gap. There is something called excel. We

1624
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 3: have ninety seven staff and our HR does this simply

1625
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 3: on EXCEL. I mean, let's be honest about it, right.

1626
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 3: What this is is procrastinating, isn't it. It's I mean,

1627
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 3: what National is doing is they're going, hey, look, we're

1628
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 3: doing something about the gen the pay gap while doing

1629
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 3: absolutely nothing by buying time, which isn't great because what

1630
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 3: they're doing is they're wasting the time of the people

1631
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 3: at the Ministry of Women. And if the people at

1632
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 3: the Ministry of Women have the time to dawdle like this,

1633
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 3: fire the lot of them, Fire a lot of them,

1634
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 3: and stop the virtue signaling. That's what's going on. Nineteen

1635
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 3: past six, the Fitch Ratings Agency is mulling over the

1636
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,879
Speaker 3: state of New Zealand's economy, like I told you, potentially

1637
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 3: thinking about a ratings downgrade. Liam dan is The Herald's

1638
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 3: Business editor at large and with us Now, hey, Liam, hey,

1639
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:30,600
Speaker 3: what do you reckon odds on for a downgrade or

1640
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 3: not odds.

1641
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 6: Or probably it's a great yarn from Deleeper Fonseca at

1642
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 6: a business desk and he's talked to the guy at

1643
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 6: Fitch and yes, they are, they are a bit concerned

1644
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 6: when they do their analysis because you know, everything's got

1645
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 6: a bit worse and they're worried that the debt's going

1646
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:48,759
Speaker 6: to be higher and we're going to be in depers

1647
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 6: for longer. So you know, it does put a bit

1648
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 6: of pressure on the argument for those tax caps given

1649
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 6: the conditions we're in. Sort of but looking through it,

1650
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 6: he's kind of saying, well, you know, they don't give

1651
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 6: anything away about the stuff, but that it puts us

1652
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 6: on the wrong side of the of the median for

1653
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 6: double A rating, so that that's not necessarily you know,

1654
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 6: being bad enough to be downgraded. You know, we're doing

1655
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,600
Speaker 6: a lot of reading between the lines. That is a

1656
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 6: bit of a warning and it's you know, look at

1657
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 6: those ratings are one of the few things that have

1658
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 6: got people had people like me going, well, the things

1659
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 6: aren't so bad. You know, we've still got our double

1660
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 6: A plus rating actually, so we're the second best rating

1661
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 6: you can get for credit around the world. We're not

1662
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 6: quite triple A like Australia, but we're you know, we're

1663
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,879
Speaker 6: sitting next to some other nations like the US and Taiwan,

1664
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 6: and it's not a bad place to be and of

1665
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 6: course if the rating gets worse, then we have to

1666
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 6: pay more for our foreign borrowing and that would potentially

1667
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 6: put our interest rates up.

1668
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 16: So, say, what.

1669
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 3: Worried me in this lamb was the fact that they

1670
01:17:58,040 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 3: think the good times are behind us, Like the last

1671
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 3: ten years were great, the next ten years not so

1672
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 3: great unless we can find a way to make heaps

1673
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 3: more money out of other places, not just China.

1674
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, that was that was That was a worrying

1675
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:12,560
Speaker 6: But I mean, you can sort of talk about the

1676
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 6: cycle we're in and the you know, when we get

1677
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:16,600
Speaker 6: out of deficit nightps of stuff. But there was some

1678
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 6: serious discussion there about the fact that the drivers of

1679
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 6: the good times I guess China and tourism boom and

1680
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 6: dairy boom are sort of petering out, you know, and

1681
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 6: that we need to find something else to charge our economy.

1682
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 6: And you know, look, Chrystal Luxen and co. Have talked

1683
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,720
Speaker 6: about this, and they know that they've got to get

1684
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 6: something going with a bit more foreign direct investment and

1685
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,560
Speaker 6: technology and all those good things. But it's you know,

1686
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 6: one thing to talk about. It's nothing to get it going.

1687
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 6: I suppose China, we might you know, might rebalance our

1688
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 6: relationship there and get something out of us latest.

1689
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, who knows, fingers crossed. I'll take anything, Liam,

1690
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 3: Thank you, Liam Dan, the Herald's Business editor at large. Heather,

1691
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 3: We're lucky we still have Huntley. The Key government had

1692
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 3: a quote to decommission the power plant when they held

1693
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 3: power regards SR. Who's the owner of Cold Distributors Auckland Cheese.

1694
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:12,600
Speaker 3: We dodged a bullet with that. I imagine if we

1695
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 3: didn't have it now, I'd be lights off right now.

1696
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 3: It would be hither I live? This is yes, this

1697
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 3: is apropos what Richard Hill's was saying about the speed

1698
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 3: limits with Richard Hills, the Auckland councilor was in here

1699
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 3: not half an hour ago, going now there's the people

1700
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 3: of Devenport wanted us to drop the speed limits. And

1701
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 3: I was like, really, who do you know who's ever

1702
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 3: said I want a speed limit drop? Heather, I live

1703
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 3: in Devenport. We didn't really get a choice. Richard and

1704
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 3: his mace forced it on us. Thank you. Six twenty two, a.

1705
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Speaker 1: Rural report on the Heather Duper see Elm Drive with

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Speaker 1: An'sko Foods New Zealand's Finest beef and lamb. Sam.

1707
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Speaker 3: Dicky's with us in about fifteen minutes time. He's going

1708
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,680
Speaker 3: to talk us through Apple's AI play. I don't know

1709
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 3: if investors are buying it, but he'll be the guy.

1710
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 3: He'll know about that. Six twenty five and Jamie Mackay

1711
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 3: hosts of the Countries with us now. Jamie, Hello, good.

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01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 4: Day, Heather.

1713
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 3: How a Field Days?

1714
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 24: Yeah?

1715
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:05,679
Speaker 25: Pretty good? Actually we're through two of four days, although

1716
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 25: Saturday is sort of more of a towny's day than

1717
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 25: a farmer's day. And the weather's been fantastic. It's a

1718
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 25: very dry underfoot, but I think that might all change

1719
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 25: tomorrow morning. We're looking for some fairly heavy rain early

1720
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 25: on in the day, so we'll see how we get on.

1721
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 25: But to be honest, Heather, at Field Days, the only

1722
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 25: place you get mud on your boots is in the

1723
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 25: car park. It's so well paid, so once you're in there,

1724
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 25: you're fine.

1725
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 3: And how is the mood? I mean, are people feeling okay?

1726
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 24: Yeah?

1727
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 25: Yeah, Look, I mean we're broadcasting from the brand site

1728
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:43,719
Speaker 25: and they sell John there tractors obviously big ticket items.

1729
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 25: They also took away the Supreme Award for the Largest

1730
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 25: or for the large site. So they've done really well.

1731
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,720
Speaker 25: I mean your loader sit up heather with lots of

1732
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 25: green tractors and yellow diggers and farmers are going to

1733
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 25: go along and have a play and a bit of

1734
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 25: a kick. But I mean that the catering that they're doing,

1735
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 25: it's magnificent. But I think to be fair, large ticket

1736
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 25: items are a bit of a tough one for farmers

1737
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 25: at the moment. There's just not much money around. Not

1738
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 25: many farmers are making money, but I see lots of

1739
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 25: people buying Swan drys and red bands and all that

1740
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 25: sort of stuff. The food places seem to be going

1741
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 25: really well. I don't know the crowd numbers for field

1742
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,640
Speaker 25: days have decided in recent years not to put out

1743
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 25: the daily numbers. They used to give them out, but

1744
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 25: they don't anymore. But certainly I think they would be

1745
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 25: judging by the traffic anyhow to get in there, they

1746
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:35,639
Speaker 25: would be pretty pleased with the turnout for the first

1747
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 25: couple of days.

1748
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, good stuff. This is the Casterbury amp Show. Does

1749
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 3: it sound too like it's going to work in the

1750
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 3: form it's coming back in?

1751
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 1: Ah?

1752
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 25: Yeah, well it's sort of they're describing is it being

1753
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 25: in a slimmed down fashion after a deal was struck

1754
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:51,680
Speaker 25: with a private company. So this is part of I mean,

1755
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 25: this is the biggest Amp show, or it was the

1756
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 25: biggest Amp show in the country by quite a way.

1757
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 25: And of course they've run out of money they had

1758
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 25: to cancel. Now they're looking at running it Thursday through Saturday,

1759
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 25: remembering Friday's a public holiday in christ Church instead of

1760
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 25: the traditional Wednesday through Friday. There's going to be less things,

1761
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 25: but they're going to keep a lot of those Amp

1762
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 25: show type things going. I'm so pleased I've kept it

1763
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 25: going because if you shut these things down, they get

1764
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 25: very hard to start up again. So you know, it's

1765
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 25: very much part of Canterbury society or no one if

1766
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 25: you're not at cup and Show week Heather.

1767
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 3: Jamie, enjoy yourself a field days. Appreciate it, Jamie McKay,

1768
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 3: host of the Country. Hither I live in Devonport too.

1769
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:38,679
Speaker 3: We didn't get a choice at all on the speed limits.

1770
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 3: Nobody pays any attention to the speed limits as you'd expect. Hither,

1771
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 3: I also live in Devenport. No one does the speed

1772
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 3: limit of thirty k's I live on a thirty k

1773
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 3: No one does it, not even me headlines next.

1774
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro MicroB or just plain economics. It's all

1775
01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and HR,

1776
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: the HR platform for Space Watch me.

1777
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 21: Brady's going to be with us shortly.

1778
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 3: I am so looking forward to talking to ende Brady

1779
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 3: about what's going on in the UK election, because, as

1780
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 3: I've told you before, it just as a pack of

1781
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 3: losers running to take the place over. Hither, they've just

1782
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 3: changed what about you. They've just changed the speed limit

1783
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 3: on our street to thirty k's so on my home

1784
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 3: I do exactly that, just to piss the tailgaters off. Cool,

1785
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 3: we'll get so cross with you if I was driving

1786
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:38,560
Speaker 3: behind you.

1787
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 8: Hither, milicious compliance. We call that one, don't we? Is

1788
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 8: that what it's called? Yeah? Where you do what you're

1789
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 8: supposed to do in such a way that everyone gets

1790
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 8: annoyed at you and they can't because you're just doing that.

1791
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're just yeah, And you know who I hope

1792
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:53,600
Speaker 3: gets stuck behind you, Richard Hell's the Auckland councilor so

1793
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 3: we can see how that feels. Hither, I drive everywhere

1794
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 3: with cruise control, as I have the GPS monitoring by

1795
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 3: my employer. Thirty sucks because you can't actually set the

1796
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 3: cruise control to anything less than forty k's per hour.

1797
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:06,719
Speaker 3: There's no way thirty is any safer than forty because

1798
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 3: you just get bored and you look for other things

1799
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:10,560
Speaker 3: to do while you're crawling along, which is true. You

1800
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 3: are more likely, I reckon, to think it's absolutely okay

1801
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 3: to tap away on your phone at thirty than you

1802
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 3: are to think it's okay to tap away at your

1803
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 3: phone on your phone at forty. But whatever. Anyway, thank god,

1804
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,759
Speaker 3: Simon Brown's coming to change the subbay. The Pope. Now, listen,

1805
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:25,719
Speaker 3: Pope's been in a little bit of trouble lately because

1806
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 3: he keeps on repeating the F word. I don't know

1807
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 3: if you've been aware of it. He said the F

1808
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 3: word then in a closed meeting, then he was like, sorry,

1809
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 3: I won't do that again. Then he did it again. Anyway,

1810
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 3: now he's redeemed himself because he's come out on the

1811
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 3: side of the people who go to the Catholic Church,

1812
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 3: and I am with him on this. He's told the

1813
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 3: priests they need to keep their homilies short and speak

1814
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 3: for a maximum of eight minutes so that people don't

1815
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 3: fall asleep. Now, the homily is when they read from

1816
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 3: the Bible in the mass, and then afterwards they do

1817
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 3: the homily, which is designed to kind of reinforce what

1818
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 3: was in the reading from the Bible rights, like a

1819
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 3: little teaching and stuff like that. But Francis says eight

1820
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 3: minutes is the absolute maximum that here they're allowed to do.

1821
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 3: And he says quote because after that time, attention is

1822
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 3: lost and people fall asleep, and they are right. He says,

1823
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 3: priests sometimes talk a lot and you don't understand what

1824
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 3: they are talking about. Bang on twenty two away from

1825
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 3: seven together do for c Alan. Now, Apple have been

1826
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 3: considered something of an AI laggard because they hadn't announced

1827
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 3: any AI plans, but that's now of course changed because

1828
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,600
Speaker 3: it looks like we're gonna get AI soon coming to

1829
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 3: us via our iPhones. Sam Dickey from Fisher Funds is

1830
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 3: with us to talk us through that evening, Sam righty,

1831
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 3: This arms races AI arms race is fascinating. Where are

1832
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 3: we at in this race to drive the revenue and

1833
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 3: the profits from AI.

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01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 12: Yes, there's been a lot of noise, but all these

1835
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:43,640
Speaker 12: companies like Meta, Microsoft, Amazon that has spending tens and

1836
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 12: in fact, hundreds of billions of dollars are desperate to

1837
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 12: find the kind of killer app that the thing that

1838
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:51,639
Speaker 12: you and I here that will pay for to give

1839
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 12: them a return on their investment. And the first wave,

1840
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 12: as we know, was the natural language model is the

1841
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 12: single source of truth like m and ich GPT perplexity

1842
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 12: called METAAI. The list goes on. Now it's still early

1843
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 12: days on that, but it looks like no one has

1844
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 12: really prepared to pay for that single source of truth.

1845
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 12: And then the next potentially big opportunity is or Thomas

1846
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 12: vehicles or full self driving vehicles for everyone, but that's

1847
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 12: still we way away. And of course, a genuine and

1848
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 12: I mean genuine personal assistant, it's actually useful, unlike Alexa

1849
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 12: or hey Google, for.

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01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 3: Example, why's Apple being considered a lag out here?

1851
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 12: Well, modern AIS kind of in play since November twenty

1852
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 12: twenty two, and almost every company on Earth since since

1853
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 12: then announced their AI strategy and I sort of say

1854
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 12: that playing cheek, and it's almost been a laughable competition.

1855
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 12: How many times can you mention AI on one earnings call?

1856
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 12: For example? And Apple has been stummed. It hasn't said

1857
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 12: a word. So the market's been calling it an AI laggard,

1858
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 12: and it does remind me Heeter. You and I talked

1859
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,599
Speaker 12: a few months ago about Google and people were saying

1860
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:03,560
Speaker 12: that company was an AI loser as well, which was

1861
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 12: kind of a third given AI as one of the Sorry,

1862
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 12: Google's one of the godfathers of AI. So this all

1863
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 12: seemed to change Rapple this week at their their Worldwide

1864
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:13,480
Speaker 12: Developers Conference.

1865
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, what is this Worldwide Developers Conference?

1866
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 12: So that's the annual flagship event. So all the big

1867
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:23,679
Speaker 12: tech companies and most big corporates globally have a big,

1868
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 12: sort of killer annual flagship event, and this is the

1869
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 12: one where they unveil their newest products. I'm sure you

1870
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 12: can probably all remember Steve Jobs walking around on stage

1871
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 12: with the original iPhone back in two thousand and seven

1872
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 12: or whatever it was. But they announced at this WWDC

1873
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 12: as it's called Apple Intelligence, which is basically an upgraded

1874
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:44,759
Speaker 12: Sury among other things.

1875
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 3: Okay, what does this mean for us as consumers? Now,

1876
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 3: if we're going to get the stuff loaded on our iPhone.

1877
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 12: So among other things, that really means a super supercharged

1878
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 12: sery there will actually be able to understand what you're

1879
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 12: saying understand natural land much better. It will be able

1880
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 12: to dig through your apps on your phone, assuming they

1881
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 12: get permission and execute instructions. So imagine a genuine personal

1882
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 12: system that could send emails, book meetings, book taxi, surf

1883
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 12: you're in New Zealand, app to see what time your

1884
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 12: flight has change that flight, pull up photos from years ago,

1885
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 12: all activated by your voice. And one of the examples

1886
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 12: they gave, which I think is not a bad example

1887
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:22,640
Speaker 12: is not killer. Is say you've taken a photo of

1888
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 12: your driver's license and is very deep in the bowels

1889
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 12: of your photos somewhere you can just say Siri, given

1890
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,879
Speaker 12: my driver's license number, it will surf your photos.

1891
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 3: Sam, How good is this? I mean the other day

1892
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 3: I tried to find my driver's license number and I

1893
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 3: had to eventually go and blinking will find my wallet

1894
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:41,640
Speaker 3: in another room, which annoyed me so much. This is

1895
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:43,600
Speaker 3: going to be a game changer, then, potentially, isn't it.

1896
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 12: Well, that is the killer question that investors are grapping with,

1897
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 12: and maybe I think you've just answered it for me, Heather,

1898
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:56,560
Speaker 12: is will you upgrade your iPhone if the Siri is

1899
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 12: really a killer personal assistant? I think you just said yes.

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01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean, how much is it going to cost?

1901
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 3: Because I'm very tight?

1902
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 12: Well exactly so that this is from an investor's perspective.

1903
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 12: Apple Intelligence is only available on iPhones fifteen and above,

1904
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:14,640
Speaker 12: so you know this. People are going to see how

1905
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:17,839
Speaker 12: this plays out. But if this is a real genuine

1906
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:21,599
Speaker 12: personal assistant that will save you hours per week, potentially

1907
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 12: people will upgrade their iPhone and will drive an upgrade cycle.

1908
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:26,680
Speaker 12: But one thing is the short The market thinks this

1909
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 12: will drive a huge iPhone upgrade cycle because the stock

1910
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 12: has added three to four hundred billion US dollars in

1911
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 12: market cap and two days alone since the Worldwide Developers Conference.

1912
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 3: Brilliant, So the investors are into it, are they?

1913
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 12: They are into it, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, thank you Sam. That's fascinating stuff. Really appreciate it.

1915
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 3: We'll talk to you again soon, Sam, Dickie for your funds. Okay,

1916
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 3: if you're worried about productivity, I've just got to run

1917
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 3: you through this because this stuff is really important. Right,

1918
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 3: if you're worried about productivity in this country, you're not

1919
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 3: going to like the latest data. It's gone backwards in

1920
01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:59,639
Speaker 3: all industries and across all main regions. This is according

1921
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 3: to zero put out the data today. Productivity fell across

1922
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 3: the country six percent on average last year. Agriculture suffered

1923
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:08,800
Speaker 3: the worst twelve percent drop, hospo sector nine percent drop,

1924
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 3: retail and real estate seven point eight percent drop, construction

1925
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:14,960
Speaker 3: seven point four percent drop. Across the regions dropped the

1926
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 3: most in Wellington seven percent, Canterbury two percent, Auckland one

1927
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:20,560
Speaker 3: point two percent. So it's not looking that good, but

1928
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 3: hopefully that's just a function of where we're at economically

1929
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 3: and it'll fix itself. Now, do you want some home

1930
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:28,920
Speaker 3: truths about New Zealand. I've been meaning to actually saw

1931
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 3: this yesterday and was meaning to draw it to your attention,

1932
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 3: but I didn't have a chance. We do it now, okay.

1933
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 3: So a British mother went on Mum's Net, which is

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01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:39,639
Speaker 3: lots of mums use mum's Net to ask each other questions.

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01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 25: Not this mum.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why, but other mums do. And so

1937
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Speaker 3: she went on and she said her husband was worried

1938
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:47,720
Speaker 3: about the threat of war in the UK. He'd been

1939
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 3: offered a job in New Zealand and they were considering

1940
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:52,760
Speaker 3: taking it and letting their sons start school over here.

1941
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 3: Should she do it well. The overwhelming response was do

1942
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 3: do not go there. One brit who lives in Auckland wrote,

1943
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 3: way a shite food is expensive, houses are cold, transport

1944
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 3: is crap. Is any of that untrue? It's all true,

1945
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:11,760
Speaker 3: isn't it. Someone says our pay in New Zealand doesn't

1946
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:14,719
Speaker 3: go as far. Food is really really expensive, particularly fruit

1947
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 3: and veg. I'm in the UK at the moment. Food

1948
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 3: is still cheap here. By comparison. Others claim that the

1949
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 3: cost of dental care is prohibitive compared to the UK

1950
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:25,560
Speaker 3: public system, with one saying any Kiwi you meet with

1951
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:27,600
Speaker 3: decent two teeth is.

1952
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:28,519
Speaker 2: Very well to do.

1953
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 3: So there you go. If you look in that view,

1954
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 3: if you have a look in the mirror and you're like, oh,

1955
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 3: that's a there's a nice set of perilars, you're rich

1956
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 3: mate that they're complaining about things like it's it's a

1957
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 3: long way to go, it's boring, there's not a lot

1958
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:44,679
Speaker 3: to do. Yeah, it's cold, all the typical stuff. Someone

1959
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 3: says it's it's like stepping back into the nineteen eighties.

1960
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 3: Beautiful but a bit weird, which I think means probably

1961
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:54,040
Speaker 3: because you visited in the nineteen eighties.

1962
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:54,880
Speaker 2: You absolute dark.

1963
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 3: My son lives in Auckland. It's really boring. He likes

1964
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 3: it and that's the city. He likes it. But he

1965
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 3: was a boring old fart when he was a teenager.

1966
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 3: If you get invited to someone's house in winter, you

1967
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:07,720
Speaker 3: have to take an extra jumper and socks because you'll

1968
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 3: probably get cold.

1969
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 22: That is true.

1970
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 3: I've experienced that typically when most people invite you over

1971
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 3: to the house, you have to bring a plate because

1972
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 3: the host can't afford to cater for those that they

1973
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 3: have invited. That's not the reason that we get you

1974
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 3: to bring a play is because we're lazy anyway, that's

1975
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:26,759
Speaker 3: what people think. One person, though, did say the food

1976
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:29,080
Speaker 3: that you get here is out the gate better than

1977
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 3: anything you get in the UK. And that's the truth.

1978
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 3: If you've ever tried to eat in the UK, and

1979
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 3: I'm looking at you Wales, mate, may as well just

1980
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 3: eat some cardboard. That's what that tastes like.

1981
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:41,760
Speaker 2: Quarter two Everything from SMEs to the big corporates.

1982
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and my Hr,

1983
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:47,599
Speaker 1: the HR platform for sme.

1984
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 2: US talksb.

1985
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 3: And Brady's our UK correspondent. This evening evening ender.

1986
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 4: Hello, have the good speaker?

1987
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:57,800
Speaker 3: Are you following this case about the nurse who murdered

1988
01:32:57,840 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 3: the babies?

1989
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 4: Yes, oh, this is very interesting because it's a retrial.

1990
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:05,439
Speaker 4: So Lucy let Be is her name. You may have

1991
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 4: heard that name last year when she was convicted in

1992
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:10,519
Speaker 4: a separate case. So I'll just explain what happened last

1993
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 4: year because it's important. Thirty four year old nurse hospital

1994
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 4: in Chester, which is on the Welsh border up in

1995
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 4: the northwest of England, and she was convicted of the

1996
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:25,960
Speaker 4: murders of seven infants and the attempted murders of seven more. Now, crucially,

1997
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 4: the jury could not reach verdicts on six counts of

1998
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 4: attempted murder, so they were basically parked while she was

1999
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 4: jailed for the fourteen crimes she was convicted of. So

2000
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 4: seven murders and seven attempted murders she got fourteen life

2001
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 4: sentences and she has been told she will die in

2002
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:45,719
Speaker 4: prison now of the six charges that the jury couldn't

2003
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:48,560
Speaker 4: reach verdicts on, what the prosecution have done now is

2004
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:50,920
Speaker 4: they've come back with one of those cases, a little

2005
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 4: baby girl. They were all given a letter of the

2006
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 4: alphabet baby kay A little baby girl who died in

2007
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:59,759
Speaker 4: February twenty sixteen. Sorry, she was attacked in February twenty sixteen,

2008
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 4: and the prosecution are now saying that that was attempted

2009
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 4: murder committed by Lucy Lepbie. She denies the charges, and

2010
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 4: the trial is now underway and in the opening stages

2011
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 4: the prosecution have said that all that evidence last year

2012
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 4: in her convictions form a very significant part of their

2013
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:20,559
Speaker 4: case in this so it's attempted murder, which she denies.

2014
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 3: Really interesting that the jury have been told that she's

2015
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:25,760
Speaker 3: already been convicted for murders, because generally you try to

2016
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 3: keep those things separate, right, so that one accusation doesn't

2017
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:31,840
Speaker 3: taint the following jury.

2018
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Speaker 4: I would say traditionally illegally yes, But unfortunately her face

2019
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 4: has been all over every newspaper here in the past

2020
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 4: twelve months, and you know, you could walk out onto

2021
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 4: the street and say do you recognize this woman and

2022
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:47,640
Speaker 4: they would say, oh, isn't she that nurse? So I

2023
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 4: think the lawyers and there have been lots of legal discussion,

2024
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:54,160
Speaker 4: but I'm sure they've basically just said to the jury

2025
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:56,600
Speaker 4: that you know, you may recognize this defendant or you

2026
01:34:56,680 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 4: may know this name. This is what has happened. So

2027
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:03,640
Speaker 4: it's but she's entitled to a fair trial, which she

2028
01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 4: will get. She denies the charge of attempted murder and

2029
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:07,720
Speaker 4: the case continues in.

2030
01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 3: This rice between this competition between Rashie Sunek and Sir

2031
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:14,960
Speaker 3: Kiyastama to be the most normal is getting ridiculous, right,

2032
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 3: has reached a new low point for the sky TV stuff,

2033
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:17,760
Speaker 3: hasn't it?

2034
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:20,960
Speaker 4: Well, look he said it. You know, you wonder who's

2035
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 4: advising Sunac because he was asked the question, you know,

2036
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 4: what sacrifices have you made? And he stumbled and bumbled

2037
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 4: as he just keeps doing. And then eventually when he

2038
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 4: was asked to name one sacrifice he had made, he

2039
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 4: said that he didn't have Sky TV basically Fox Tell

2040
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 4: it's about one hundred and twenty dollars a month now,

2041
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 4: and I used to work there and I know the

2042
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 4: sky system inside out. I was there for two decades.

2043
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:47,240
Speaker 4: He said that as a young person growing up, he

2044
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:50,200
Speaker 4: famously is the words he used, famously, we didn't have

2045
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 4: sky I think to even bring up subscription TV that's

2046
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty dollars a month when there are

2047
01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:59,840
Speaker 4: children in the UK right now on his government's watch,

2048
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 4: not getting two meals a day. There are twenty two

2049
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 4: hundred food banks where people are going to get their food.

2050
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:09,640
Speaker 4: I mean, it's staggering that he has even said this

2051
01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 4: and Starmer. I watched the debate last night between the

2052
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 4: two of them in Grimsby and I thought Starmer absolutely

2053
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:18,400
Speaker 4: smashed it. I thought he had answers for everything. He

2054
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 4: looked like a Prime Minister in waiting, and the key

2055
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:25,360
Speaker 4: phrase he kept saying was country first, party second. And

2056
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 4: I think, hand on heart, the most true blue Conservatives

2057
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:31,160
Speaker 4: in the country for the last fourteen years, if they

2058
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 4: were asked that question, could you truly say that your

2059
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 4: people have put the country over the party. I don't

2060
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:38,599
Speaker 4: think they could answer that honestly.

2061
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:41,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a fair point. Actually, Hey Inda, as always,

2062
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:43,240
Speaker 3: thank you so much. We'll check you again. Nick's Tuesday,

2063
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 3: look after yourself. That's indo. Brady Ow UK correspondent. Hear

2064
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 3: that these sound like the same English who go to

2065
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:51,760
Speaker 3: the European resorts, mown that it's not like home and

2066
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 3: search for their crep English food. That actually blinked and

2067
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:57,679
Speaker 3: tedious and they're very funny people. Thank you for that now, Apparently,

2068
01:36:57,760 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 3: according to a text, you don't need the AI to

2069
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:01,560
Speaker 3: suit your phone for your license. You can actually do

2070
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:03,439
Speaker 3: it yourself. You simply need to go to your gallery,

2071
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:06,599
Speaker 3: click the search bit type license and it already has

2072
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:08,519
Speaker 3: the capacity to find it. And in fact I just

2073
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 3: gave it a hooon before, and that is true. The

2074
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,560
Speaker 3: reason I do remember that now, the reason that I

2075
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 3: had to get up and walk to the other room,

2076
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:18,640
Speaker 3: which really quite infuriated me, was because I didn't have

2077
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 3: the license on my phone, so even AI wouldn't have

2078
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 3: been able to find it in the end when it

2079
01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 3: eight away from seven.

2080
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro micro or just plain economics, it's all

2081
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:30,640
Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with Heather Duplicy Allen and my

2082
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 1: HR the HR platform for SME used TALKSB crunching the

2083
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:37,879
Speaker 1: numbers and getting the results.

2084
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 2: It's Heather Duplicy Allen with the Business.

2085
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 1: Hours thanks to my HR the HR platform for SME

2086
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 1: on NEWSTALKSB.

2087
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 3: Here's an idea for what we could do to the

2088
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:50,719
Speaker 3: counselors and local body hither in the mid nineteen sixties,

2089
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 3: the Hastings counselors were paid ten quitter meeting and they

2090
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:54,559
Speaker 3: had twelve meetings a year.

2091
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 24: John.

2092
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:57,960
Speaker 3: Probably back then everything actually worked properly, and so it

2093
01:37:58,000 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 3: was probably a better system.

2094
01:37:59,280 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 25: Now.

2095
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 3: I think that we've probably established on the show that

2096
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 3: the world is a weird place, right, and people are weird.

2097
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 3: And the latest weird thing I've come across is that

2098
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:10,639
Speaker 3: there is a particular look on Hollywood at the moment

2099
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 3: that the girls are all a fluttered, a flutter for

2100
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:16,680
Speaker 3: the thing that people are finding hot in their Hollywood

2101
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:21,599
Speaker 3: men is rattish good looks. Like rattish good looks. They

2102
01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:25,519
Speaker 3: call them hot rodent men. It's basically a good looking

2103
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:28,479
Speaker 3: man who happens to resemble a mouse or a rat,

2104
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 3: but in a hot way, because obviously, like if you're

2105
01:38:31,320 --> 01:38:34,120
Speaker 3: like Peter Pethwick from Harry Potter, that's not in a

2106
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 3: hot way. But there are some who just wear like

2107
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 3: a passing resemblance to a mouse, but they're still quite hot.

2108
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:41,560
Speaker 3: I feel like, Okay, I'm going to read you the

2109
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 3: list of names. Okay, then we can get to the

2110
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:46,080
Speaker 3: bottom of this. Timothy Shallow, may you know he the

2111
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 3: young one with the curly hair, very kind of like

2112
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 3: pixyish kind of looks. Jeremy Allen White never heard of

2113
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:56,160
Speaker 3: him before. Barry Cogan. He's the one in Saltburn who

2114
01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:58,000
Speaker 3: gets his wanger out, so now you know who I'm

2115
01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:00,240
Speaker 3: talking about. He's also the one in Mass of the

2116
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:02,559
Speaker 3: Air who dies very early on without any kind of warning.

2117
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:03,880
Speaker 3: It's weird. I don't know why they had him there

2118
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 3: in the first place. A guy called Mike Face. Never

2119
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 3: heard of him. Josha Connor never heard of him. Blink

2120
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:11,040
Speaker 3: one eight two's drummer Travis bark Barker, who's married to

2121
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:15,759
Speaker 3: one of the Kadashians. Of course, Courtney, thank you, Matty

2122
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:17,680
Speaker 3: Heay from nineteen seventy five, who had a little fling

2123
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:20,360
Speaker 3: with Taylor Swift. The whole album's written about him. Will

2124
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:23,400
Speaker 3: Willem Dafoe and that's all the ones you'll know. Adam

2125
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:26,120
Speaker 3: Driver maybe as well. Anyway, apparently I've had a look

2126
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:27,439
Speaker 3: at them, and I think the thing they've all gone

2127
01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:30,040
Speaker 3: in common is that they've got quite pointed features. Their

2128
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:32,599
Speaker 3: eyes are a little too close together, and they've got

2129
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:34,720
Speaker 3: a really pointed chin, like a heart shaped face with

2130
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:37,960
Speaker 3: a pointy chin. And therefore they are hot rodent men.

2131
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 8: Where do I was about to say here that, oh,

2132
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 8: here we go. Here's here's a trend, I can get

2133
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:43,640
Speaker 8: it on. Finally a Hollywood trene, I can it on.

2134
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 8: Then you sit to with echalone and I was like, no, no.

2135
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 3: No, actually, Laurie, you would agree with me. There's a

2136
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:48,800
Speaker 3: rodent he look about him.

2137
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:50,679
Speaker 8: I don't think it's the rodent part we're worried about.

2138
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:52,360
Speaker 8: I think it's the hot rodent part that we're worried about.

2139
01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:54,559
Speaker 3: I think I think you could go for hot rodent man,

2140
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 3: if you could do that. Yeah, that's very kind.

2141
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 8: Welcome Taylor Swift. Ready for it to play us out?

2142
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:00,200
Speaker 24: All right?

2143
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:04,240
Speaker 8: Some geological scientists were studying the concerts she did at

2144
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:06,720
Speaker 8: Murrayfield in Edinburgh over the weekend and they worked out

2145
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 8: on their equipment. This was the one that got the

2146
01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:11,599
Speaker 8: biggest response. They could actually pick up the concert all

2147
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 8: the fans jumping up and down to the songs, and

2148
01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 8: this was the song. The fans were jumping up and

2149
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:15,320
Speaker 8: down the moment.

2150
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:15,840
Speaker 3: What's the song?

2151
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 7: Ready for it?

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