1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: Fewer graduate jobs in Wellington. This is in the public service. 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: So the numbers now just under two hundred jobs last 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: year compared to nearly five hundred in the year before that. 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Aiden Donaghue, Victoria, University of Wellington Students Association, Vice President 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: with me this morning, Aid and good morning. 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: Good morning. 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: What jobs are we talking about? 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 3: Graduate jobs are we're talking about jobs that are offered 9 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 3: either directly after graduating or early in careers. 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: Your first three years sort of after leaving university. 11 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: And what typically type of degree would you have done 12 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: to get one of these jobs. 13 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: It's a bit of a mixed bunch. So you have 14 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: a commerce degrees, so your treasury, financial markets authority, you know, 15 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: other humanity degrees such as mb King of Order and 16 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: Ministry of Ethnic Communities, all sorts of degrees to get 17 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: into the public service. 18 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: And these people are now because the public service doesn't 19 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: have the same number of jobs that they used to 20 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: perhaps under a labor government. Whatever they are going, we're 21 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:58,319 Speaker 1: doing what. 22 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: Go on ours, right, That's that's the simple fact about it. 23 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 2: There's there's you know, fuel work and there's more pay 24 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: to be asked for over there, so why not you know, 25 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: move over do we know? 26 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: I guess the question is whether these jobs were actually 27 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: worth our time in the first place. Has anyone noticed 28 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: that they're missing? 29 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: I'd say, well, there graduates themselves have noticed. But the 30 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: key thing about, you know, with public sector roles is 31 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: you go in as a bit of a generalist, so 32 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: even though you might start off in one place, you 33 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 2: find yourself all over the shop, you know, offering help 34 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 2: where it is needed. 35 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: Really, is there anything stopping these graduates from becoming frontline 36 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: police officers or teachers? 37 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: No, really, other than sort of what you train for. 38 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: But teaching is a whole nother kittle of fresh around 39 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: job availability after graduating as. 40 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: Well as in there aren't jobs. 41 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, as in it's it's it's hard. You've got to do, 42 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: you know, unplaid placements to get in first, and then 43 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: you've got to do your time and again same sort 44 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: of draws to move just odds to be a police 45 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: or to be a couple or teacher. 46 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: Are they aid? Given the fact that there are as 47 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: many graduate jobs in Wellington, are fewer people going into 48 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: the courses that would split them out the other end 49 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: to take those jobs. 50 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: We're not seeing that directly so far. We've seen a 51 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: lot of people maybe go in with the mindset that 52 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: they will just move anyway if it isn't the option 53 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: to stay within Wellington. 54 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: Appreciate your time this morning, Aiden. Thank you Aiden Donna, 55 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: who's views a vice president in Wellington. For more from 56 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live to news Talks. 57 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: It'd be from five am weekdays, or follow the podcast 58 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.