1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,907 Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB. 3 00:00:12,667 --> 00:00:15,667 Speaker 2: Found twelve continues tonight five past seven Sky Stadium. The 4 00:00:15,707 --> 00:00:19,747 Speaker 2: Hurricanes structure prop to the hearken. They draw all the 5 00:00:19,787 --> 00:00:23,467 Speaker 2: Brumbies defense across to the right wing side and he 6 00:00:23,707 --> 00:00:27,027 Speaker 2: comes the hollow, shut the gate to before he's bolted. 7 00:00:27,747 --> 00:00:29,547 Speaker 2: Try against the Chiefs. 8 00:00:29,747 --> 00:00:33,067 Speaker 1: A boy gets the head going he's taken centimeters short 9 00:00:33,067 --> 00:00:33,747 Speaker 1: of the line. 10 00:00:33,907 --> 00:00:36,467 Speaker 3: Not Awa fancies himself at a half backs of ten. 11 00:00:36,587 --> 00:00:38,667 Speaker 3: Other back Tacum Daniel right. 12 00:00:38,667 --> 00:00:41,507 Speaker 2: Under the sixth Hurricanes assistant coach Corey Jane is with 13 00:00:41,587 --> 00:00:43,947 Speaker 2: us CJ. Thanks for your time, nice and fine today 14 00:00:43,987 --> 00:00:47,547 Speaker 2: in Wellington. But the week's been pretty wild weather wise. 15 00:00:47,587 --> 00:00:49,867 Speaker 2: Does that affect your prep week at all? 16 00:00:50,907 --> 00:00:54,547 Speaker 3: Uh? Well, we have the green room at at our 17 00:00:54,547 --> 00:00:58,387 Speaker 3: training facility, which is as a luxury. We did get 18 00:00:58,387 --> 00:01:03,627 Speaker 3: outside on the Thursday and training the weather and you know, 19 00:01:03,947 --> 00:01:07,547 Speaker 3: obviously you have to tighten up and it was windy 20 00:01:07,587 --> 00:01:10,107 Speaker 3: and that, so you know, things don't go perfectly how 21 00:01:10,187 --> 00:01:13,387 Speaker 3: you plan. But we planned that well. We were hoping 22 00:01:13,427 --> 00:01:15,667 Speaker 3: that Saturday would be better, so we got out there 23 00:01:15,707 --> 00:01:19,427 Speaker 3: and stuck at it. Anyway, So now the boys are 24 00:01:19,907 --> 00:01:21,307 Speaker 3: the boys have been on This week has been a 25 00:01:21,307 --> 00:01:23,787 Speaker 3: great week, So big game for us. 26 00:01:23,987 --> 00:01:25,347 Speaker 2: You're coming off the back of the one over the 27 00:01:25,347 --> 00:01:28,507 Speaker 2: Brumbi's first time you've beaten them in Canberra since twenty seventeen. 28 00:01:28,827 --> 00:01:32,027 Speaker 2: What was the most pleasing feature or features of that 29 00:01:32,067 --> 00:01:36,227 Speaker 2: when last weekend as far as the coaches were concerned, Ah. 30 00:01:35,907 --> 00:01:39,027 Speaker 3: Well, good mindset from the men. You know, we really 31 00:01:39,307 --> 00:01:43,907 Speaker 3: embraced the handsac week. You know Whopper had been over 32 00:01:43,947 --> 00:01:47,347 Speaker 3: Glipoli in those ways and he started telling them stories 33 00:01:47,387 --> 00:01:51,147 Speaker 3: and you know, the boys just trying to understand what 34 00:01:51,827 --> 00:01:55,307 Speaker 3: they've done for for Australia New Zealand, and so we 35 00:01:55,387 --> 00:01:57,587 Speaker 3: kind of tapped into that mentality a little bit and 36 00:01:57,627 --> 00:02:00,427 Speaker 3: then just simple things that we had trained during the 37 00:02:00,467 --> 00:02:05,427 Speaker 3: week went out there and did it. And it looked like, 38 00:02:05,507 --> 00:02:08,707 Speaker 3: even though when things didn't go our way, we had 39 00:02:08,707 --> 00:02:12,667 Speaker 3: a calmness about us, which we probably haven't had too 40 00:02:12,747 --> 00:02:16,547 Speaker 3: much this year. It's always been chaos, chaos, chaos, and 41 00:02:16,987 --> 00:02:19,987 Speaker 3: so even if as things were a little bit offbeat 42 00:02:20,187 --> 00:02:23,787 Speaker 3: against the Brumbies, we kind of we had people where 43 00:02:23,787 --> 00:02:25,987 Speaker 3: they're supposed to be and could fix it. So it 44 00:02:26,027 --> 00:02:27,827 Speaker 3: was that was quite pleasing how. 45 00:02:27,747 --> 00:02:29,907 Speaker 2: Big a boast has the return of Bully Proctor been 46 00:02:29,947 --> 00:02:30,227 Speaker 2: for you? 47 00:02:31,547 --> 00:02:35,467 Speaker 3: He's a good player. He is, he's he's he's a 48 00:02:35,507 --> 00:02:38,547 Speaker 3: nice player to have on the field. He just understands 49 00:02:38,547 --> 00:02:41,867 Speaker 3: the game. And I've coached him a few years now 50 00:02:41,907 --> 00:02:47,787 Speaker 3: with Wellington and the Hurricanes, and his understanding for for 51 00:02:47,947 --> 00:02:51,187 Speaker 3: rugby both sides of the ball. You know, when you've 52 00:02:51,187 --> 00:02:54,507 Speaker 3: played for so long it's super rugby and that starts 53 00:02:54,507 --> 00:02:57,027 Speaker 3: slowing down for you, and then once it starts slowing 54 00:02:57,067 --> 00:03:00,347 Speaker 3: down for you can make some good decisions. And it's 55 00:03:00,387 --> 00:03:02,987 Speaker 3: just it's doing that for him. But just the confidence 56 00:03:02,987 --> 00:03:06,867 Speaker 3: that he brings guys around the paddick as well, his 57 00:03:07,027 --> 00:03:11,147 Speaker 3: voice in the team in huddles. He can be stern 58 00:03:11,187 --> 00:03:13,947 Speaker 3: when he needs to or give solutions. But also you know, 59 00:03:14,027 --> 00:03:16,427 Speaker 3: guys like Rubes who's just jumping into ten for us, 60 00:03:16,867 --> 00:03:19,147 Speaker 3: you got that a little bit of calm, a little 61 00:03:19,147 --> 00:03:23,667 Speaker 3: bit wider to help see things for them and make decisions. 62 00:03:23,667 --> 00:03:26,307 Speaker 3: So you know, he he had a good game. 63 00:03:26,707 --> 00:03:29,347 Speaker 2: How do you reckon Ruben Love is going at first five? 64 00:03:30,267 --> 00:03:33,947 Speaker 3: He don't mind it. Yeah, he's obviously a live wire 65 00:03:34,307 --> 00:03:36,787 Speaker 3: and you know he wants the ball in his hands 66 00:03:36,827 --> 00:03:39,867 Speaker 3: and he wants to create stuff and his ability to 67 00:03:39,907 --> 00:03:43,347 Speaker 3: play ten but also not have to do it all himself, 68 00:03:43,467 --> 00:03:46,267 Speaker 3: you know, make the right decision, look for space. And 69 00:03:47,147 --> 00:03:49,667 Speaker 3: he really is trying to learn from when he jumped 70 00:03:49,667 --> 00:03:53,507 Speaker 3: in against the force and potentially taking off, you know, 71 00:03:53,587 --> 00:03:56,067 Speaker 3: from his structure a little bit sometimes too early. He's 72 00:03:56,787 --> 00:03:58,947 Speaker 3: he learned that and during the week and trained it 73 00:03:58,987 --> 00:04:01,307 Speaker 3: and then got back into position a lot as a 74 00:04:01,627 --> 00:04:05,107 Speaker 3: first five to run the team. And and I'm enjoying 75 00:04:05,187 --> 00:04:09,787 Speaker 3: him being there. And again, when you've got a young 76 00:04:09,787 --> 00:04:12,907 Speaker 3: guy that's Waits played first five before, but then at 77 00:04:12,947 --> 00:04:14,627 Speaker 3: this level was really trying to jump in there and 78 00:04:14,707 --> 00:04:18,547 Speaker 3: run the ship. You still need a good understanding for 79 00:04:18,627 --> 00:04:22,307 Speaker 3: offense around the whole everyone and the team and making 80 00:04:22,347 --> 00:04:24,067 Speaker 3: it simple so you can make the right decisions, you 81 00:04:24,067 --> 00:04:27,587 Speaker 3: can see the right cues. And yeah, I thought he 82 00:04:27,667 --> 00:04:31,027 Speaker 3: was great in the against the Bumbies. So another opportunity 83 00:04:31,067 --> 00:04:31,707 Speaker 3: this week. 84 00:04:31,947 --> 00:04:34,987 Speaker 2: Let's look at the Chiefs competition's top point scorers. Top 85 00:04:35,027 --> 00:04:37,387 Speaker 2: of the top of the table. I know you have 86 00:04:37,467 --> 00:04:40,547 Speaker 2: a defensive brief within the Hurricanes coaching staff, So where 87 00:04:40,547 --> 00:04:42,507 Speaker 2: do you place your defensive focus tonight? 88 00:04:43,827 --> 00:04:47,867 Speaker 3: Oh, You've got to go everywhere. The physical their forwards 89 00:04:48,387 --> 00:04:51,347 Speaker 3: will try and and mussle you up. You know, you 90 00:04:51,347 --> 00:04:54,627 Speaker 3: give them opportunities to try to beat your forward pack up, 91 00:04:54,627 --> 00:04:55,987 Speaker 3: they're going to try and do it. So there's a 92 00:04:55,987 --> 00:05:00,147 Speaker 3: good opportunity that they're going to come for us physically 93 00:05:00,307 --> 00:05:03,467 Speaker 3: in that area. Backs are unbelievable. If you give them 94 00:05:03,547 --> 00:05:06,667 Speaker 3: time and space, they'll hurt you. But they're also got 95 00:05:06,747 --> 00:05:10,427 Speaker 3: what compliments there. Their attack is their unbelievable kicking game. 96 00:05:10,667 --> 00:05:13,707 Speaker 3: You know, everyone in that back line can kick a 97 00:05:13,747 --> 00:05:17,787 Speaker 3: ball long, can put you under pressure behind your defensive line, 98 00:05:18,307 --> 00:05:20,467 Speaker 3: and when they don't get the pitches they want, they 99 00:05:20,507 --> 00:05:22,787 Speaker 3: go to their kick. So yeah, we've got to be 100 00:05:22,827 --> 00:05:27,787 Speaker 3: We've got to be on defensively enough physicality and and 101 00:05:27,827 --> 00:05:30,627 Speaker 3: when they do kick, you know, we've just got to 102 00:05:30,627 --> 00:05:33,427 Speaker 3: be smart and take those balls and and not let 103 00:05:33,507 --> 00:05:34,587 Speaker 3: them pressure us that way too. 104 00:05:35,147 --> 00:05:36,787 Speaker 2: They've gone six to two on their bench, I'm sure 105 00:05:36,827 --> 00:05:38,147 Speaker 2: you've picked up on that. They've done that a few 106 00:05:38,147 --> 00:05:40,667 Speaker 2: times this season. Hurricanes have always stuck to five to three. 107 00:05:40,947 --> 00:05:43,747 Speaker 2: Has there ever been discussion or you know, a serious 108 00:05:44,107 --> 00:05:47,347 Speaker 2: look at going six two on your bench every week? 109 00:05:48,507 --> 00:05:52,387 Speaker 3: Jamie McIntosh and Bryn they'd rather go an eight nil 110 00:05:52,667 --> 00:05:54,987 Speaker 3: and just have all forwards on the bench. So there's 111 00:05:54,987 --> 00:05:59,947 Speaker 3: discussions all the time. Yeah, the chief ones, you know, 112 00:06:00,227 --> 00:06:01,947 Speaker 3: are they trying to you know, muscle up with the 113 00:06:01,987 --> 00:06:04,147 Speaker 3: Fords or do they have any backs left with a 114 00:06:04,507 --> 00:06:09,147 Speaker 3: few injuries, so yeah, interesting one, but no, we definitely 115 00:06:09,147 --> 00:06:11,267 Speaker 3: talk about it a lot of just trying to find 116 00:06:11,267 --> 00:06:14,627 Speaker 3: coverage on that bench and who can go where and 117 00:06:14,667 --> 00:06:17,867 Speaker 3: we that kind of stuff that you know, you talk 118 00:06:17,907 --> 00:06:21,867 Speaker 3: about as a team. But you know they wanted every week. 119 00:06:22,227 --> 00:06:24,027 Speaker 2: The last time the Chiefs played and Wellington the course 120 00:06:24,067 --> 00:06:26,627 Speaker 2: the semi final last year. Has that been talked about 121 00:06:26,627 --> 00:06:28,707 Speaker 2: it all? CJ is motivation for tonight. 122 00:06:31,267 --> 00:06:34,347 Speaker 3: Some of the guys that played in it have just 123 00:06:34,387 --> 00:06:37,147 Speaker 3: had little little chats about it. But again it's a 124 00:06:37,187 --> 00:06:39,627 Speaker 3: new year and you know there's some guys that weren't 125 00:06:39,627 --> 00:06:43,947 Speaker 3: even involved in in it. So you know, we probably 126 00:06:43,987 --> 00:06:47,827 Speaker 3: had our worst first five minutes of a of a 127 00:06:47,867 --> 00:06:50,867 Speaker 3: semi final against them and they really put us to 128 00:06:50,907 --> 00:06:53,067 Speaker 3: the sword. So you know a couple of guys that 129 00:06:53,147 --> 00:06:57,427 Speaker 3: have that they still feel it, you know, don't want 130 00:06:57,467 --> 00:07:00,187 Speaker 3: it to happen again, but they've got an opportunity to 131 00:07:00,187 --> 00:07:01,507 Speaker 3: go out there and not let it happen again. So 132 00:07:01,547 --> 00:07:03,507 Speaker 3: it's yeah, it's going to be a good one. 133 00:07:03,947 --> 00:07:05,987 Speaker 2: Just one more player. I'll ask you about Kenn Naholo. 134 00:07:06,387 --> 00:07:07,507 Speaker 2: You reckon he could be an All Black? 135 00:07:08,347 --> 00:07:10,747 Speaker 3: I reckon he can be an All Black Piney, Yes, 136 00:07:11,347 --> 00:07:16,467 Speaker 3: he's He's so darnamic and and he's unbelievable with the 137 00:07:16,507 --> 00:07:17,907 Speaker 3: ball in hand. You give him a little bit of 138 00:07:17,947 --> 00:07:23,827 Speaker 3: room just as strength as fend. You know, I'm biased here, 139 00:07:23,827 --> 00:07:28,307 Speaker 3: but probably the best defensive winger in New Zealand at 140 00:07:28,307 --> 00:07:30,827 Speaker 3: the moment, just by spots he can get to and 141 00:07:30,827 --> 00:07:32,787 Speaker 3: then when he makes a tackle, he's great over the ball. 142 00:07:34,267 --> 00:07:35,827 Speaker 3: You know, had a little bit of a down period 143 00:07:36,547 --> 00:07:38,427 Speaker 3: for the last couple of weeks and up until the 144 00:07:38,427 --> 00:07:42,107 Speaker 3: Brumbies where he probably wasn't using his energy and efforts 145 00:07:42,227 --> 00:07:45,467 Speaker 3: as well as he had been. He came in and 146 00:07:45,787 --> 00:07:48,987 Speaker 3: was unbelievable against the four. So but he got injured 147 00:07:49,027 --> 00:07:52,107 Speaker 3: and then you know, Kenny came back against the Brumbies 148 00:07:52,107 --> 00:07:54,507 Speaker 3: and and just went out there and played awesome and 149 00:07:54,907 --> 00:07:57,907 Speaker 3: potentially was a big reason why we won the game. 150 00:07:58,027 --> 00:08:00,867 Speaker 3: So he's got an awesome opportunity this week to go 151 00:08:00,947 --> 00:08:05,027 Speaker 3: and and do the same against a great cheasting the. 152 00:08:05,147 --> 00:08:07,587 Speaker 2: Game coming tonight. All the best mate, thanks for the 153 00:08:07,627 --> 00:08:11,227 Speaker 2: chat as always that awesome mate. Thank you, no, thank you, Corey. 154 00:08:11,227 --> 00:08:14,507 Speaker 2: Corey Jane, then assistant coach of the Hurricanes five past seven, 155 00:08:14,667 --> 00:08:18,067 Speaker 2: Skystadium Tonight for commentary on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio. 156 00:08:18,747 --> 00:08:21,907 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, Listen live 157 00:08:22,027 --> 00:08:25,307 Speaker 1: to News Talk zed B weekends from midday, or follow 158 00:08:25,347 --> 00:08:26,947 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio