1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: To the coalition. Winston Peters has done a bit of 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: a funny thing. He told Watier News today that he 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: plans to repeal the Regulatory Standards Bill. 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: We did our best to neutralize its adversity effects, and 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: we will campaign in the neessolation to repeal it. 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: Okay, But what's odd about it is that the bill 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: that he wants to repeal only passed two days ago, 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: and he actually voted to pass it. David Seymour was 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: the leader of the ACT Party. Hi, David, Hey, Heather, Okay, 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: what's going on here? Did he want something included in 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: the bill or excluded in the bill that he didn't 12 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: get that's caused him to go sour on it. 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: No, we've worked pretty hard to try and find out 14 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 2: exactly what the objections are, and we're being prepared to 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: make changes. I thought some of them were actually positive, 16 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: and we included them, and then we passed the bill 17 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: because it's government policy. But I mean more fundamentally, this 18 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: country is tied up in red tape. We are poorer 19 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: than we would otherwise be. People have their lives destroyed 20 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: by stupid rules, such as a woman I wrote about 21 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: in the Post yesterday. She lost her life savings to 22 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 2: silly earthquake rules that should have been properly vetted before 23 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: they were made. The Regulatory Standards Bill is designed to 24 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 2: fix that the same way that the Reserve Bank Act 25 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: fixed out a control inflation and the Public Finance Act 26 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 2: fixed out a control debt back in the day. Now, 27 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: you know that's the objective here. It's quite serious stuff. 28 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: And yeah, people want to play politics. I mean it's 29 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 2: not even election here. 30 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, do you think that's what's going on. 31 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: He's passed it, happily passed it, and now he sees 32 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: an opportunity to play politics. 33 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I don't know. I mean, you know where 34 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: actors at the moment is that we're basically been given 35 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: a job by the voters and the taxpayers at the 36 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: last election, and i'd like to think that we're doing it. 37 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: I mean, the most important thing the government's done today, 38 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: in my humble opinion, is announced that you're going to 39 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: be able to bring in groceries labeled in select foreign 40 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: countries using QR codes to add New zeal And additional information. Now, 41 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: if that stops you having to put silly stickers on 42 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: foreign goods as you sometimes see in the International Aisle. 43 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: It means you can get a wider range of groceries 44 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: into New Zealand. It might actually improve the prices we 45 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: pay by increasing competition, and that's the kind of thing 46 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: we're doing. May not set the world on fire, but 47 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: it might actually make a difference. 48 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: Do you think the theory that you've expressed earlier today 49 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: is that you think that Winston Peters is preparing to 50 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: potentially go with labor after the election. Do you really 51 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: believe that? 52 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: Well, that's you know, that's the arm chair political commentators 53 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: views that the position that he's expressed is you know, 54 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 2: precisely the labor position, So you could speculate that. But 55 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: mean again, you know you've called me a policy nerd, 56 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: and I wear it proudly, Heather. I'm not really so 57 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: much into politics as policy, and what we're trying to 58 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: do is just make sure the policy settings are right 59 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: so people can get on in this country. I mean, 60 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: last night we passed legislation through Parliament fundamentally changed the 61 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: way early childhood centers are regulated because they've been fed 62 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: up with red tape. 63 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I want to talk about your theory about 64 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: Winston going with labor. How do you rate the chances 65 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: of it. 66 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: Well, he's done it before, and a lot of what 67 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 2: this government is doing is fixing. 68 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: It's very sober wrong because I think he's wrong. 69 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 2: Well, it would have been wrong if he had said 70 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: it in twenty seventeen, as we know, to our great 71 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: cost of about one hundred billion dollars. So you know 72 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: that it has happened before. And my message is that 73 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: the party will be campaigning to keep the government because 74 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: you see the other guys. If they get in a 75 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,119 Speaker 2: lot of people will just be gone. And a guy 76 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 2: said it to me today. I said, mate, I'll probably 77 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: be on the seat next to you. And at the 78 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: same time, we need to make it better because while 79 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: I think the government has done a pretty good job 80 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: in very tough circumstances, the reason I'm in the party 81 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: is I always think that we need a bit more 82 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: ambition on the policy front. 83 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: All right, David, thank you very much appreciated David Cebell, 84 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: Leader of the Act Party. 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