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Speaker 1: It's time to do politics Wednesday with Mike Mitchell. Who's

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Speaker 1: with us? Mark? Good morning, Good morning, Mike. Have you

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Speaker 1: pulled over?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yep, very good.

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Speaker 1: Ginny Anderson, good morning, good morning. How are you have

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Speaker 1: you pulled over?

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Speaker 3: I am I'm in the Kingsgate Auto Lodge, so I'm

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Speaker 3: not moving.

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Speaker 4: I'm in white honguey.

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Speaker 1: What are you paying for a room at the Kingsgate?

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Speaker 4: It's about two sixty. I think it's not bad.

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Speaker 1: It's not bad. Good break good breakfast.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a big breakfast person. I'm all good with

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Speaker 3: the coffee. But the gym is outstanding. They run a

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Speaker 3: good model at teaching. Open is a private business and

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Speaker 3: so they run it. No way, good, good set up.

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Speaker 1: Full set away, full set away.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Can you do a chin up?

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Speaker 4: I can? I can do a pull up. But I've

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Speaker 4: got one one shoulder.

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Speaker 3: That's a bit shitty shoulder.

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Speaker 1: It's a bit shitty she's got Now, this is the

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Speaker 1: swearing from the BSA.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, I saw that.

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Speaker 4: Oh yes, don't like it?

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Speaker 3: Well, but you said, Mike, you just said buzzcocks. Isn't

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Speaker 3: that a bad word? Can you say buzz cocks?

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Speaker 1: Not if it's a band, not if you're quoting somebody.

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Speaker 1: I know this from my experience. If you're quoting somebody

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Speaker 1: and you swear, that's legit because it's a legit quote

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Speaker 1: as opposed to just saying it just saying sweet.

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Speaker 4: Just have to find someone who's sworn and quote them in.

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Speaker 1: It's all I do. It's half this program, Jim. The

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Speaker 1: how many people are up there, Mark? And have you

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Speaker 1: been instructed to be there? And is this going to

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Speaker 1: be one of these angst fests for the next couple

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Speaker 1: of days or is there going to be something productive

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Speaker 1: out of this.

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Speaker 5: I've got I've got quite a few meetings with the PM,

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Speaker 5: with the EE leaders and a big part of what

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Speaker 5: we're talking about obviously is emergency management, so that'll be good.

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Speaker 5: And I'm also hidden over to NAFA Prison to gun

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Speaker 5: visit the Christians team over you and have a look

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Speaker 5: at a building project or a program that we've got

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Speaker 5: going for prisoners to learn how to get some building skills.

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Speaker 1: Nice And when you drive as you are north to

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Speaker 1: that particular part of the world, which one of them

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Speaker 1: most beautiful in the world, are you reminded that there

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Speaker 1: should have been many many years ago through a series

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Speaker 1: of governments a far better roading system that would take

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Speaker 1: us basically from point A to point B and therefore

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Speaker 1: open up the Northland region generally to all the benefits

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Speaker 1: of modern motoring.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm glad that you asked me that because I

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Speaker 5: love getting on the Pouhoy to walk with. That has

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Speaker 5: been delivered. I remember campaign is the local MP on

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Speaker 5: that and labors saying it's a holiday highway, we shouldn't

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Speaker 5: have it. But we just got to keep pushing that

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Speaker 5: road north It's the best thing economically we can do

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Speaker 5: for Northlander is to give them a world class main

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Speaker 5: state highway that connects them to the rest of the country.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't agree more, Jenny. This Penny Henery thing yesterday, this this,

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Speaker 1: there's what happened there?

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Speaker 2: What? What was?

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Speaker 1: Is there something wrong?

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Speaker 3: Before I go into that, I just like to We

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Speaker 3: met with the wardens, Martin Wardens. I just wanted to

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Speaker 3: mention that because Mark got to meet what he was

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Speaker 3: doing up here?

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Speaker 1: So I love And what did you do, Jenny? I

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Speaker 1: mean what I did?

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Speaker 4: Thanks for asking. It's so nice you.

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Speaker 3: I meet with the Marty Wardens and we got shown

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Speaker 3: around all around behind the scenes tour and got to

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Speaker 3: see what they were doing, how they were running it,

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Speaker 3: even their their program where they bring young people in

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Speaker 3: to volunteer to help people and to assist and make

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Speaker 4: So it was really cool. It was a lovely thing

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Speaker 4: to do.

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Speaker 3: And the other thing was we appeared before the ECHS Forum,

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Speaker 3: which was really interesting and to hear that dialogue and

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Speaker 3: to hear some of the questions to parties, which included

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Speaker 3: Marty's Multi Paddy Greens and also surprisingly.

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Speaker 4: Shane James for New Zealand Foods.

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Speaker 2: What about what about that? What about that? Stand up? Though?

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Speaker 1: Going on what happened to.

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Speaker 4: Mike's got have you got a new jockey?

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Speaker 1: Partner already asked the question in a new way. Lady

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Speaker 1: Mark's cut straight in the chase? What about.

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Speaker 4: What would you like to know about that?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 1: It was a cock up? How did it get cocked up?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: I think what happened was there was information about our

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Speaker 3: Penies decision. He'd got into the domain before it was

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Speaker 3: intended to and so very clearly Chris Hipkins outlined that

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Speaker 3: it's Peni's decision and Penies right to talk about his future.

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Speaker 2: And what about what about the Greens?

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Speaker 5: So he wouldn't discount the INHERI since text wealth texts

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Speaker 5: a high company text, high personal and embarrasing. He was

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Speaker 5: there with Matama saying well, we'll go and get the

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Speaker 5: country to vote.

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Speaker 2: All that stuff of it. It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: I think incredibly clear that we've got a basic capital

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Speaker 3: gains text and that's it.

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Speaker 1: You Mark, that's the beauty of democracy. If they want

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Speaker 1: a campaign on that, they can No.

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Speaker 5: No, I totally agree with you as long as it

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Speaker 5: and that's being very obvious that that's what they've got

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Speaker 1: So Ginny, this is this is I put you in

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Speaker 1: a slightly invidious position. None of this is your fault.

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Speaker 1: But the boss says to me, if we were having

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Speaker 1: somebody leave this company, we would let them be the

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Speaker 1: star of the show. So they make their announcement, it's

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Speaker 1: all good, and then the leader of the party, A. Hopkins,

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Speaker 1: gets to be made available to comment on that, whereas

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Speaker 1: yesterday seemed to be the exact opposite, or no one

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Speaker 1: knew what was going on. So what happened, Well.

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Speaker 3: I think that press stand up with Labor and the

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Speaker 3: Green Party had been planned for some time, and I

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Speaker 3: think there have been discussions going on over summer with Peenie,

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Speaker 3: and I think a decision was made shortly around the

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Speaker 3: and that was his choice to be able to do that.

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Speaker 3: But what did happen is I explained, was that I

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Speaker 3: think something on Facebook or something was made public before

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Speaker 4: And so what Chris Hopkins.

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Speaker 3: Wanted to make clear it was that Penny has the

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Speaker 4: And you know, Panie's been pretty honest.

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Speaker 3: He said that he had a tough time through that

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Speaker 3: last by election and he's decided that it's time to

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Speaker 3: take a step back from that.

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Speaker 1: Do you say farewell to him in good grace or

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Speaker 1: as something happened, not at all.

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Speaker 4: I really miss Penny.

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Speaker 3: I think him as a as a really close friend

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Speaker 3: and a massive contribution not just to the Malti caucus

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Speaker 4: I'll really miss him. He's an excellent speaker.

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Speaker 3: He's one of those amazing speakers who can move fluidly

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Speaker 3: between Todell, Mardi and English and and make things work.

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Speaker 4: So how's real life?

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Speaker 1: Okay, How's how's he exhausted being a list MP? I mean,

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Speaker 1: for goodness sake, when you say he's exhausted, he's a

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Speaker 1: listing p he's not position. What's he existed from?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it was pretty clear that that last

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Speaker 3: by election was tough. He went and guns are blazing

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Speaker 3: and really trying to take that back.

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Speaker 1: There was Willie's fault, but you have to do that.

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Speaker 3: Well, whoever's fault it was, he put his best game

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Speaker 3: on and you know I was out the air as

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Speaker 3: well helping with him, and he worked incredibly hard.

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Speaker 4: So I think it's tough when you go into an

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Speaker 3: You've previously stood as a local MP and contest that

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Speaker 3: in a by election and then don't succeed. So I

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Speaker 3: think you know he's being honest when you said it

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Speaker 3: was a tough year after losing colection.

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Speaker 5: In his take, I just want to acknowledge Penny because

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Speaker 5: you form good friendships across the island, without a doubt.

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Speaker 2: I've formed a really good friendship with him.

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Speaker 5: We've played a lot of rugby together, raising money for

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Speaker 5: good causes. His stamina has always been good, but he's

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Speaker 5: been praying to injury also. I will say that I

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Speaker 5: reckon what happened with the stand up Mike is that

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Speaker 5: if you look at Chippy, he just starts freaking out.

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Speaker 2: He's thinking, I'm got to get out of here.

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Speaker 5: When when the Green started talking about inheritance texts and

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Speaker 5: He's like, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, Jenny, why you're frozen to party marry up? Because

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Speaker 2: they are one of your partners as well. You didn't

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Speaker 4: We've been very clear.

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Speaker 3: We've been very clear Mark that they're not currently in

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Speaker 5: And until so, you've counted, you've rounded them out, have

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Speaker 5: you discounted them?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 3: I think Chris Hopkins has been very clear that the

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Speaker 3: current disarray that's going on means that they're not in

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Speaker 3: a state that's able for us to work with them.

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Speaker 4: And until that changes, very cool, cool.

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Speaker 1: They just given them a lot of questions, a lot

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Speaker 1: of text this morning. Mark, I suspect I know your

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Speaker 1: answer to the questions. It's not your responsibility. But this

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Speaker 1: boxing story that Mayhearn's got on TV one that the

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Speaker 1: investigation has been launched into Are you in any way,

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Speaker 1: shape or form involved in that? Are you worried about

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Speaker 1: it in any way, shape or form. Something need to

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Speaker 5: I had a meeting with the with the leaders of

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Speaker 5: the Integrity Commission yesterday and I just made it very

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Speaker 5: clear what met expectations were around dealing with these in

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Speaker 5: a timely manner because it's important, and they agreed, well,

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Speaker 5: it means not putting off today what you can not

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Speaker 5: putting off to remory what you can do today. There

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Speaker 5: is I think they've come out and they've been very

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Speaker 5: clear there is definitely an independence there. So I can't

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Speaker 5: instruct or tell them what to do, but I can definitely.

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Speaker 5: It was the same with you know, when we had

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Speaker 5: the situation with Netbill, I can say, look, you know,

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Speaker 5: you guys have got to sit down and figure this

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Speaker 5: out because you're damaging the sport.

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Speaker 2: And the same applies here.

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Speaker 5: And at the end of the day, all of these

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Speaker 5: administrators and everyone involved in it, they've got to think

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Speaker 5: about the grassroots, they've got to think about the sport.

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Speaker 5: They've got to park up egos and they've got to

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Speaker 5: get this stuff figured out.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Jinny for you. There's a claim in the Herald

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Speaker 1: this morning that Jackson Street, but Tony is cooler than

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Speaker 1: the Cuba Street.

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Speaker 4: Yes, they're right, it is.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: We had Bishop on earlier he said Jackson Street is

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Speaker 1: what Cuba Street is twenty years ago.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 3: It's got like I think it's seventy six different places

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Speaker 3: you can get something to eat.

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Speaker 4: It's pretty impressive.

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Speaker 1: Now that's interesting because yesterday the media yet again do

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Speaker 1: you know Soprano?

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Speaker 4: Yes, I go there often.

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Speaker 1: That's great, right, Okay, what's not anymore because they're closing

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Speaker 1: so that's a shame.

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Speaker 4: They're termed business real good business.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, but that's my laughing laughing. No, no, no, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: But here's a lot. It's because the bloody media is

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Speaker 1: so so negative. There's a million places to eat in

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Speaker 1: Jackson Street. Am I right? Or am I right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot.

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Speaker 3: There's a whole lot of I think I glanced over

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Speaker 3: the article and I think the number was in the

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Speaker 3: high seventies of place as you can eat.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's too many. There's too many places to eat

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Speaker 1: in Jackson Street. And then somebody has to go and

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Speaker 1: it's soprano. Unfortunately, but it's.

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Speaker 3: Been like that way for a long time. The kind

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Speaker 3: of model they run is soprano. Was more of the

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Speaker 3: hiring to town, to be honest, but they run you

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Speaker 3: can get a really good meal for like under thirty

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Speaker 3: dollars and it's b yo And I think that's why

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Speaker 3: it's sustained itself over that the economic downturn is that

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Speaker 3: people actually come in, come from Wellington on the train

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Speaker 3: and get a place right next to my office casing

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Speaker 3: for like twenty eight dollars. You can get a massive

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Speaker 3: plate of really good you know, pair tie or veggies

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Speaker 3: and meat of different kinds of curry, bring in your

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Speaker 3: own bottle, bring your own bottle, and you can eat

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Speaker 3: and it can be under So I think those people

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Speaker 3: have been struggling under the cost of living can actually

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Speaker 3: afford to eat out.

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Speaker 5: Come to the come to the High Biscus Coast and

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Speaker 5: you've got the High Biscuss, New Zealand you put them up.

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Speaker 1: In your place.

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Speaker 4: B and B we listen too much to your island

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Speaker 4: and BALI could find.

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Speaker 2: At the barbie the other day and like what often

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Speaker 2: have people?

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I've got to go. For more from The Mike

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