1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Fine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,947 Speaker 1: from Newstalks edb. 3 00:00:12,827 --> 00:00:16,067 Speaker 2: A podium finish main time for Kiwi triathlete Height and 4 00:00:16,147 --> 00:00:20,507 Speaker 2: Wild in his first iron Man World Championship event in Topol. 5 00:00:20,587 --> 00:00:21,747 Speaker 2: Earlier today, the. 6 00:00:21,707 --> 00:00:25,627 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty four vin Fast Ironman seventy point three World 7 00:00:25,747 --> 00:00:30,267 Speaker 3: champion goes to Belgian's very own Yellaheens in a smoking 8 00:00:30,387 --> 00:00:33,907 Speaker 3: time of three hours. In thirty two minutes. Wow, what 9 00:00:34,067 --> 00:00:36,267 Speaker 3: a celebration well earned today. 10 00:00:36,587 --> 00:00:38,507 Speaker 4: You have to give it up for this man. He 11 00:00:38,827 --> 00:00:42,987 Speaker 4: put it out there. There's there literally, he absolutely went 12 00:00:43,067 --> 00:00:45,227 Speaker 4: for it and has every reason to be so proud, 13 00:00:45,547 --> 00:00:46,827 Speaker 4: heartbroken but proud. 14 00:00:47,027 --> 00:00:50,747 Speaker 3: At twenty six, the future ahead of him that's as 15 00:00:50,747 --> 00:00:53,747 Speaker 3: bright as the President. I mean, well done. A good 16 00:00:53,787 --> 00:00:57,307 Speaker 3: fight there for Hayden while second place in three point 17 00:00:57,267 --> 00:01:01,467 Speaker 3: thirty three and exhausted, fully spent on the carpet. 18 00:01:01,427 --> 00:01:05,027 Speaker 2: The Olympic silver medalist placing Sacn behind Belgian Yellaheens. As 19 00:01:05,067 --> 00:01:07,427 Speaker 2: you heard there are Toma three thirty three minutes, twenty 20 00:01:07,427 --> 00:01:10,667 Speaker 2: two seconds, fellow New Zealander Kyle Smith coming home in 21 00:01:10,947 --> 00:01:14,907 Speaker 2: fourth place. Let's bring in iron Man commentator Cameron Harper. 22 00:01:15,427 --> 00:01:19,227 Speaker 2: Cameron how close was Hayden Wilde to actually challenging for victory. 23 00:01:20,267 --> 00:01:22,587 Speaker 5: Well, it was interesting, Pioneer, because there was I mean, 24 00:01:22,587 --> 00:01:24,027 Speaker 5: it was on from the start, you know. I mean, 25 00:01:24,147 --> 00:01:25,627 Speaker 5: I don't know what you like when you put the 26 00:01:25,627 --> 00:01:28,307 Speaker 5: despeedos on, we'll get on the ten seed. But these 27 00:01:28,347 --> 00:01:31,027 Speaker 5: guys were flying right from the very start. So they 28 00:01:31,107 --> 00:01:33,307 Speaker 5: jump in the water, they go for the swim to 29 00:01:33,347 --> 00:01:35,147 Speaker 5: start with. Just to give you a bit of an 30 00:01:35,187 --> 00:01:37,867 Speaker 5: idea on it. These guys got through one point nine 31 00:01:37,987 --> 00:01:40,547 Speaker 5: k's of swimming and they pop and a shade under 32 00:01:40,587 --> 00:01:42,987 Speaker 5: twenty two minutes, so they were just flying. Got on 33 00:01:43,027 --> 00:01:45,787 Speaker 5: the bike under two hours for ninety k's we're averaging 34 00:01:45,827 --> 00:01:48,387 Speaker 5: over forty five. They got out into the run, Hayden 35 00:01:48,427 --> 00:01:50,227 Speaker 5: had a bit of a gap and he took off 36 00:01:50,427 --> 00:01:53,147 Speaker 5: and he was flying. He's running first couple of k's 37 00:01:53,147 --> 00:01:56,627 Speaker 5: about three minutes to k So jeez, it's pretty handy 38 00:01:56,667 --> 00:01:59,667 Speaker 5: to go five hundred meters, isn't it. But Hayden was 39 00:02:00,027 --> 00:02:02,547 Speaker 5: he he was caught. He was caught with about two 40 00:02:02,667 --> 00:02:05,267 Speaker 5: k's to go and that was all over to him. 41 00:02:05,267 --> 00:02:07,187 Speaker 5: In the World Championship, he had a pretty good lead, 42 00:02:07,507 --> 00:02:11,267 Speaker 5: but yeah, Yellow Gean minister surrealm and wins World Championship. 43 00:02:11,987 --> 00:02:15,227 Speaker 2: Incredible stuff. Was this expected? Did you expect Hayden whild 44 00:02:15,267 --> 00:02:17,547 Speaker 2: to do so well as you say? He led on 45 00:02:17,587 --> 00:02:20,507 Speaker 2: the run, only overtaken and finishes on the podium in 46 00:02:20,547 --> 00:02:23,787 Speaker 2: second place. Was that what you expected from him pre race? 47 00:02:25,107 --> 00:02:27,347 Speaker 5: Yeah? Look, I did, I knew. I thought he'd get 48 00:02:27,347 --> 00:02:29,187 Speaker 5: a podium. I really didn't think he'd get a podium. 49 00:02:29,187 --> 00:02:31,147 Speaker 5: That didn't know which part it would be. But you know, 50 00:02:31,267 --> 00:02:33,427 Speaker 5: I think he was definitely one of the pre race favorites. 51 00:02:33,667 --> 00:02:35,827 Speaker 5: Carl Smith was or going to be up there when 52 00:02:35,827 --> 00:02:38,627 Speaker 5: you got Coote Leo Begier from France who rounded out 53 00:02:38,667 --> 00:02:41,667 Speaker 5: there podium. But at Agean's in middle distance racing has 54 00:02:41,707 --> 00:02:44,187 Speaker 5: been going exceptionally well for a very long time, and 55 00:02:44,507 --> 00:02:46,707 Speaker 5: you know, I think to him, we always knew he'd 56 00:02:46,707 --> 00:02:50,067 Speaker 5: come at the end, and Hayden, unfortunately for him, blew 57 00:02:50,147 --> 00:02:51,987 Speaker 5: up the wee bit. He slowed down quite a bit 58 00:02:51,987 --> 00:02:54,587 Speaker 5: in his last couple of k's, whereas Yellow Geen the 59 00:02:54,667 --> 00:02:57,667 Speaker 5: center keeps speeding up and in the end it was 60 00:02:57,707 --> 00:02:59,747 Speaker 5: just too much for Hayden. But a second place is 61 00:02:59,747 --> 00:03:02,387 Speaker 5: still an absolute legendary. 62 00:03:01,907 --> 00:03:04,587 Speaker 2: If it really oh absolutely, he'll look, there's absolutely no 63 00:03:04,667 --> 00:03:06,267 Speaker 2: question about that. I just wonder how much he would 64 00:03:06,267 --> 00:03:08,827 Speaker 2: have had to alter as training. We're so used to 65 00:03:08,827 --> 00:03:11,027 Speaker 2: seeing them, Cameron, aren't we in the Olympic distances, the 66 00:03:11,067 --> 00:03:13,987 Speaker 2: shorter distances, would he have had to do a lot 67 00:03:14,027 --> 00:03:15,787 Speaker 2: different than the lead up to this or would the 68 00:03:15,827 --> 00:03:19,587 Speaker 2: base have been there already for him on the base. 69 00:03:19,387 --> 00:03:21,707 Speaker 5: Would have been there? You know, Hayden is a young guy. 70 00:03:21,747 --> 00:03:23,507 Speaker 5: He did a lot of multi sport. He did the 71 00:03:23,507 --> 00:03:25,547 Speaker 5: Coast to coast and Brian ashbiebll tell you all about 72 00:03:25,547 --> 00:03:28,027 Speaker 5: that sometimes be at the Coast to coast so much 73 00:03:28,987 --> 00:03:30,627 Speaker 5: a couple of times. The young man did a lot 74 00:03:30,627 --> 00:03:32,787 Speaker 5: of multi sport racing as a young man in Pocopae, 75 00:03:33,067 --> 00:03:35,467 Speaker 5: So he's had a huge endurance based for a long time. 76 00:03:35,747 --> 00:03:37,867 Speaker 5: And he often says in that shorter distance he can't 77 00:03:37,947 --> 00:03:40,427 Speaker 5: quite show off his bike skills because he's very very 78 00:03:40,427 --> 00:03:43,427 Speaker 5: good the longer it goes on a bike ride. So yeah, 79 00:03:43,427 --> 00:03:45,707 Speaker 5: for him, a lot of those shorter distance guys that 80 00:03:45,867 --> 00:03:48,107 Speaker 5: do a lot of middle distance training, sort of the 81 00:03:48,267 --> 00:03:51,427 Speaker 5: seventy point three kind of training and then really sharpen 82 00:03:51,547 --> 00:03:54,707 Speaker 5: up for those shorter distances. So so then to transfer 83 00:03:54,787 --> 00:03:56,907 Speaker 5: across to be able to do this middle distance racing. 84 00:03:57,187 --> 00:03:59,627 Speaker 5: It's not that much of a stretch for them. 85 00:03:59,387 --> 00:04:00,947 Speaker 2: All right. And in terms of the way the race 86 00:04:00,987 --> 00:04:05,987 Speaker 2: played out in general terms, do most triathletes, most nine 87 00:04:06,067 --> 00:04:08,147 Speaker 2: men women, are they able to hold on on the 88 00:04:08,227 --> 00:04:10,747 Speaker 2: run or is the runoff in a place where there's 89 00:04:10,787 --> 00:04:12,547 Speaker 2: quite a bit of positional change? 90 00:04:13,147 --> 00:04:15,667 Speaker 5: Yeah, there are execut right find I mean give you 91 00:04:15,667 --> 00:04:18,227 Speaker 5: an an idea. The gentleman from the US it was 92 00:04:18,587 --> 00:04:20,547 Speaker 5: in the lead at the end, at the start of 93 00:04:20,547 --> 00:04:22,867 Speaker 5: the swim, ended up placing I think about thirty second, 94 00:04:23,267 --> 00:04:25,067 Speaker 5: so you know, the rest of the day with people 95 00:04:25,067 --> 00:04:27,587 Speaker 5: going past them unfortunately, But I mean the pace is 96 00:04:27,627 --> 00:04:31,347 Speaker 5: so high in these races. Every year these young guys 97 00:04:31,387 --> 00:04:33,867 Speaker 5: are seem to have a revolution in the sport and 98 00:04:33,907 --> 00:04:37,107 Speaker 5: they get quicker and quicker and quicker. I mean, give 99 00:04:37,147 --> 00:04:39,427 Speaker 5: a bit of context. You know, seventy point three is 100 00:04:39,467 --> 00:04:42,027 Speaker 5: the miles, so put them in the case. But you 101 00:04:42,027 --> 00:04:45,107 Speaker 5: know one point nine k swim, ninety k's in the 102 00:04:45,147 --> 00:04:47,587 Speaker 5: by twenty one on the run, three hours e two 103 00:04:48,067 --> 00:04:50,467 Speaker 5: to get that all done. I mean, it's this haziness, really, 104 00:04:50,507 --> 00:04:52,027 Speaker 5: isn't it? The place these guys are going. 105 00:04:52,987 --> 00:04:56,187 Speaker 2: It's eye watering it's so right, Cam, it's eye watering 106 00:04:56,227 --> 00:04:59,867 Speaker 2: how quick they are going. So when they're looking for improvements, like, 107 00:05:00,347 --> 00:05:02,867 Speaker 2: do is there one of the three disciplines where it's 108 00:05:02,907 --> 00:05:05,427 Speaker 2: where it's I guess I'm not going to say easier, 109 00:05:05,467 --> 00:05:07,987 Speaker 2: but where you would to get to make your gains. 110 00:05:07,987 --> 00:05:10,347 Speaker 2: I feel like a ninety k bike race because of 111 00:05:10,387 --> 00:05:12,227 Speaker 2: the longer distance or ninety k on the bike, the 112 00:05:12,267 --> 00:05:14,267 Speaker 2: longer distance you might be able to make your games. There. 113 00:05:14,387 --> 00:05:15,267 Speaker 2: Is that accurate or not? 114 00:05:15,987 --> 00:05:18,347 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you're right. I mean it's for most everyday 115 00:05:18,547 --> 00:05:20,067 Speaker 5: triathletes when they go out and have a go, that's 116 00:05:20,107 --> 00:05:22,187 Speaker 5: the Amati games. They do make games in that ninety 117 00:05:22,227 --> 00:05:24,627 Speaker 5: k bike ride. But you know, I think you've got 118 00:05:24,667 --> 00:05:26,507 Speaker 5: to be fit enough though, to be able to ride 119 00:05:26,507 --> 00:05:28,267 Speaker 5: your bike and come off with good enough condition to 120 00:05:28,307 --> 00:05:30,267 Speaker 5: be able to run whatever distance it is that you've 121 00:05:30,267 --> 00:05:32,667 Speaker 5: got in that triathon for this one and a half marathon, 122 00:05:32,907 --> 00:05:36,027 Speaker 5: but just the past these guys run, but just in general, 123 00:05:36,027 --> 00:05:39,267 Speaker 5: I mean there's three thousand, eight hundred athletes from one 124 00:05:39,307 --> 00:05:42,587 Speaker 5: hundred and nineteen countries on the course today, just in 125 00:05:42,627 --> 00:05:45,547 Speaker 5: the men's race. Whole lot of women in the race yesterday. 126 00:05:45,907 --> 00:05:48,467 Speaker 5: So on the race here in Topril three eight hundred 127 00:05:48,467 --> 00:05:50,787 Speaker 5: people from one hundred and nineteen countries. I mean, topeul 128 00:05:50,907 --> 00:05:54,027 Speaker 5: is absolutely heaving, flying and succeeding at the moment. 129 00:05:54,427 --> 00:05:56,187 Speaker 2: Yeah, love it, love it. And yet Taylor neb we 130 00:05:56,187 --> 00:05:58,427 Speaker 2: should mention her winner and the women's race yesterday. Was 131 00:05:58,427 --> 00:05:59,267 Speaker 2: she a popular winner? 132 00:05:59,987 --> 00:06:02,827 Speaker 5: Well, a very popular winner, and you'd be very brave to, 133 00:06:02,987 --> 00:06:06,307 Speaker 5: you know, put five dollars against her because not think 134 00:06:06,467 --> 00:06:09,467 Speaker 5: she would have won it. Some outstanding athletes around her 135 00:06:09,907 --> 00:06:12,147 Speaker 5: are the likes of Cat Matthew's im and Simmons and 136 00:06:12,147 --> 00:06:14,907 Speaker 5: others actually attentions out of Australia as well, But that's 137 00:06:14,907 --> 00:06:17,667 Speaker 5: some outstanding athletes there. But Taylor nib has just been 138 00:06:18,027 --> 00:06:20,507 Speaker 5: dominant for a long time. But this is her third 139 00:06:20,707 --> 00:06:23,587 Speaker 5: win in the World Championships in a row, so you know, 140 00:06:23,627 --> 00:06:26,027 Speaker 5: reigning defending and she got it for the third time. 141 00:06:26,067 --> 00:06:29,387 Speaker 5: So it was expected. But at the same time, you know, 142 00:06:29,427 --> 00:06:31,707 Speaker 5: you learn to not expect the expected at times in 143 00:06:31,707 --> 00:06:33,547 Speaker 5: the sport. But Taylor definitely. 144 00:06:33,307 --> 00:06:36,467 Speaker 2: Delivered good stuff. And just to Finnish you alluded to 145 00:06:36,467 --> 00:06:39,347 Speaker 2: it before the number of people who lined the course, 146 00:06:39,667 --> 00:06:41,947 Speaker 2: I guess, particularly the run leg I think I heard 147 00:06:41,947 --> 00:06:44,467 Speaker 2: Taylor Nib say yesterday that pretty much on every ten 148 00:06:44,507 --> 00:06:47,427 Speaker 2: meters of the run course she was getting encouragement from 149 00:06:47,427 --> 00:06:50,787 Speaker 2: the crowds. Big numbers tuning up, Cameron, Oh, incredible. 150 00:06:51,147 --> 00:06:54,067 Speaker 5: You know the population of topos about twenty seven thousand 151 00:06:54,107 --> 00:06:56,587 Speaker 5: people from what they've been told were the locals, and 152 00:06:56,827 --> 00:06:59,187 Speaker 5: they've had almost that again turned up for the weekends 153 00:06:59,427 --> 00:07:01,547 Speaker 5: now of the twenty five thousand people tuning up as 154 00:07:01,587 --> 00:07:04,907 Speaker 5: athletes and supporters. And even just today when Hayden Wild 155 00:07:05,027 --> 00:07:10,067 Speaker 5: and Yellow Geens, Leo Vizier and the Judas Ground for Carlesmith, 156 00:07:10,187 --> 00:07:12,947 Speaker 5: there was literally like two thousand people just standing on 157 00:07:12,987 --> 00:07:15,427 Speaker 5: the waterfront just yelling their names and at the end 158 00:07:15,467 --> 00:07:17,747 Speaker 5: the guys are like, we've never ever at any event 159 00:07:17,787 --> 00:07:20,507 Speaker 5: ever had support like this, so it's really raised the bar. 160 00:07:20,587 --> 00:07:22,187 Speaker 5: Coming to New Dylan for the championship. 161 00:07:22,907 --> 00:07:25,787 Speaker 2: Absolutely love it. Great to check Cam. Thanks for updating us, mate, 162 00:07:25,827 --> 00:07:27,747 Speaker 2: great work over the weekend. We'll catch up again soon. 163 00:07:28,547 --> 00:07:29,707 Speaker 5: Thanks Funny all. 164 00:07:29,627 --> 00:07:31,947 Speaker 2: The best mate chairs Camp half of their iron Man 165 00:07:31,987 --> 00:07:34,547 Speaker 2: commentator bringing us up to date. Yeah, so Hayden Wild 166 00:07:34,987 --> 00:07:38,547 Speaker 2: coming home second behind the one of Yellow Hen's but 167 00:07:38,907 --> 00:07:42,187 Speaker 2: yeah I saw some foota Julia and in typical Hayden 168 00:07:42,267 --> 00:07:45,467 Speaker 2: wild fashion. I don't think he left anything out there 169 00:07:45,787 --> 00:07:49,707 Speaker 2: when he crossed the line, just collapsing to the carpet. 170 00:07:49,707 --> 00:07:52,667 Speaker 2: One point nine k swim, ninety k bike, twenty one 171 00:07:53,467 --> 00:07:56,107 Speaker 2: point one k run, so basically a half marathon to finish, 172 00:07:56,147 --> 00:07:59,547 Speaker 2: which is much longer than the Olympic distances that we 173 00:07:59,707 --> 00:08:02,067 Speaker 2: used to seeing Hayden Wild competing all. I remember when 174 00:08:02,067 --> 00:08:03,627 Speaker 2: I spoke to a month or so ago in the 175 00:08:03,667 --> 00:08:06,147 Speaker 2: lead up to this, he said, look, we are we 176 00:08:06,507 --> 00:08:08,547 Speaker 2: as his team, We're going to look at more of 177 00:08:08,587 --> 00:08:10,867 Speaker 2: these longer distances over the next couple of years, and 178 00:08:10,907 --> 00:08:13,707 Speaker 2: then revert back to the Olympic stuff ahead of Los 179 00:08:13,747 --> 00:08:17,987 Speaker 2: Angeles in nineteen and rather in twenty twenty eight. In 180 00:08:18,027 --> 00:08:19,107 Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight. 181 00:08:19,867 --> 00:08:23,067 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 182 00:08:23,147 --> 00:08:26,467 Speaker 1: to News Talk st B weekends from midday, or follow 183 00:08:26,507 --> 00:08:28,107 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio