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Speaker 1: We've got more change coming to Auckland City's density rules.

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Speaker 1: In a nutshell, there's going to be a lot more

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Speaker 1: of it. Density that has height limits for buildings have

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Speaker 1: been increased, et cetera. Now Scott Cornwill follows these things.

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Speaker 1: He's with Greater Auckland. And as with the Scott Morning.

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Speaker 2: To you, Good morning.

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Speaker 1: I do worry about this sort of broad subject. One

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Speaker 1: because we're a national program and I don't want to

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Speaker 1: bore the rest of the country. But two also even

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Speaker 1: for people in Auckland. I mean that there's such a

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Speaker 1: dysfunctional mess these days. You can have meetings till you're

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Speaker 1: blue in the face. Do you think any of this

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Speaker 1: is ever going to happen?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's pretty disappointing how long it's been taking.

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Speaker 2: I mean this started off in twenty twenty. It is

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Speaker 2: meant to come into effect sort of middle of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three. We're now only just now talking about doing

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Speaker 2: some more stuff two years later. Really frustrated by how

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Speaker 2: long this is all taking.

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Speaker 1: And what I know is reading a very good piece

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Speaker 1: over the weekend somewhere. It was on Walkworth in that

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Speaker 1: general area which is north of Auckland, which of course,

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Speaker 1: is booming. And the reason it's booming, Scott is because

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Speaker 1: because people like to live in areas like that, which

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Speaker 1: is not density. It's not downtown because no one wants

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Speaker 1: to be downtown, I mean, and that is a problem

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Speaker 1: in a nutshell, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: I disagree that people don't want to be downtown. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, there's about forty thousand people who live in

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Speaker 2: the city center, and we reckon that if you you know,

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Speaker 2: let people build more homes and these kind of places,

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Speaker 2: you know, not force people, you know, just let people,

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Speaker 2: you know, make choices in their own lives that they'll

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Speaker 2: take a couple of these choices. And I think we've

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Speaker 2: been seeing that in Organs the last few years.

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Speaker 1: And so that's the up. It's an apartment and that's

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Speaker 1: the sort of lifestyle that you're looking to see in

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Speaker 1: the future.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, lifestyle is when I think about it. But you know,

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Speaker 2: a house is a house, right, it's there, you know,

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Speaker 2: nice to have a backyard, but you know, if you've

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Speaker 2: got a nice little park nearby something like that, it's

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Speaker 2: not actually radically different lifestyle. Do you reckon mean that

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Speaker 2: people are living like close to train stations, close to

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Speaker 2: infrastructure that they like, and they're able to get to

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Speaker 2: work easier, you know, less congestion, all those sort of

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Speaker 2: a lot of these things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So that sounds like a like a cool idea.

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Speaker 1: It's just hasn't sort of translated into the real world yet.

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Speaker 1: Where are all these railway stations. So you're telling me

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Speaker 1: that when the CRL's finished and you can live next

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Speaker 1: to the CRL, you pop on your train, you pop

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Speaker 1: downtown a couple of blocks, you go for your shop,

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Speaker 1: you eat out, and it's all utopia.

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Speaker 2: I mean not utopia. They'll sill. We have problems in

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Speaker 2: the world, but I think you know, for a lot

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Speaker 2: of people, that will make their life a lot easier.

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Speaker 2: And you know, when we think about the fact that

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Speaker 2: you know, over the last thirty years, we actually haven't

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Speaker 2: kept up the supply of housing to demand. You know,

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Speaker 2: basic you know, laws is a plant of arm and

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Speaker 2: tell us that when you don't make enough houses, the

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Speaker 2: price is going to arise. And so we need to

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Speaker 2: think about where we can put houses in a way

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Speaker 2: that integrates with infrastructure. And so for us, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's just if we've spent all this time building out

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Speaker 2: and you know, We probably need to do more of that,

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Speaker 2: but we also need to do the app peace to

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Speaker 2: really make sure that we can get board, housing affordabilities everyone.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, let's bring you back and see when

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Speaker 1: it happens. If anybody makes it, The descis Usian, Scott appreciated.

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Speaker 1: Scott Corble, who's with Greater Awkland this morning. For more

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