1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,907 Speaker 1: from Newstalks edb. 3 00:00:12,867 --> 00:00:15,227 Speaker 2: Why of the grease Taylor whips it away on the 4 00:00:15,227 --> 00:00:18,187 Speaker 2: on side out towards the boundary. It's going away for 5 00:00:18,307 --> 00:00:21,547 Speaker 2: four and New Zealand have won. The team in the 6 00:00:21,627 --> 00:00:26,187 Speaker 2: dressing room are celebrating stand tall for the black Caps 7 00:00:26,547 --> 00:00:31,707 Speaker 2: salutes the first ever World Test Championship winners. Our team 8 00:00:32,147 --> 00:00:34,227 Speaker 2: is at the top of the world, a title they 9 00:00:34,707 --> 00:00:37,987 Speaker 2: richly deserve and it'll be an emotional moment for them. 10 00:00:38,187 --> 00:00:41,787 Speaker 3: Heyare the undoubted high point of Gary Stead's seven year 11 00:00:41,907 --> 00:00:45,507 Speaker 3: tenure as black Caps cricket coach, the World Test Championship 12 00:00:45,547 --> 00:00:48,587 Speaker 3: win in twenty twenty one. But now there is a 13 00:00:48,707 --> 00:00:52,507 Speaker 3: new man at the helm. Rob Walter appointed as new 14 00:00:52,547 --> 00:00:55,387 Speaker 3: black Caps head coach through until the end of twenty 15 00:00:55,467 --> 00:00:58,427 Speaker 3: twenty eight. He's previously been head coach of both the 16 00:00:58,467 --> 00:01:02,827 Speaker 3: Otago Volts and the Central Stags, winning silverware with both provinces. 17 00:01:03,107 --> 00:01:06,027 Speaker 3: He also coached the men's New Zealand a squad in 18 00:01:06,027 --> 00:01:09,307 Speaker 3: India in twenty twenty two, and was most recently the 19 00:01:09,387 --> 00:01:13,547 Speaker 3: head coach of South Africa's men's white ball teams. Rob 20 00:01:13,587 --> 00:01:17,267 Speaker 3: Walter is with us on the weekends. Boar, Congratulations on 21 00:01:17,307 --> 00:01:17,947 Speaker 3: the appointment. 22 00:01:18,027 --> 00:01:18,307 Speaker 2: Rob. 23 00:01:18,547 --> 00:01:21,507 Speaker 3: First of all, what sort of shape do you perceive 24 00:01:21,587 --> 00:01:24,347 Speaker 3: the black Caps are in as you take over as 25 00:01:24,467 --> 00:01:25,187 Speaker 3: their head coach? 26 00:01:26,507 --> 00:01:28,027 Speaker 4: Thanks? So I appreciate that, Jason. 27 00:01:29,747 --> 00:01:33,787 Speaker 5: Look, I suppose results really speak for themselves. I think 28 00:01:33,827 --> 00:01:36,907 Speaker 5: Garry's an amazing job to leave the team in a 29 00:01:36,947 --> 00:01:40,987 Speaker 5: great position. I've done some pretty iconic things in the 30 00:01:41,067 --> 00:01:45,787 Speaker 5: last six years. So yeah, from my point of view, 31 00:01:46,507 --> 00:01:49,347 Speaker 5: the teams in a really good space and really people 32 00:01:49,347 --> 00:01:51,307 Speaker 5: for me to come in and see how I can 33 00:01:51,387 --> 00:01:54,627 Speaker 5: add a little bit to that and really build on 34 00:01:54,627 --> 00:01:56,027 Speaker 5: the momentum that's already there. 35 00:01:56,867 --> 00:01:59,067 Speaker 3: And I guess that is a nice lead in to 36 00:01:59,147 --> 00:02:01,467 Speaker 3: my next question, because if the team was a dumpster fire, 37 00:02:01,587 --> 00:02:03,947 Speaker 3: are complete shambles, you'd come in and you'd be a 38 00:02:03,987 --> 00:02:07,107 Speaker 3: mister fix it. But that's, I guess not really what 39 00:02:07,147 --> 00:02:09,707 Speaker 3: you need to do here. So how will you approach 40 00:02:09,747 --> 00:02:12,627 Speaker 3: it and and put your own stamp on it without 41 00:02:12,747 --> 00:02:14,627 Speaker 3: you know, undoing you know a lot of the good 42 00:02:14,627 --> 00:02:15,947 Speaker 3: work that has already been done. 43 00:02:17,787 --> 00:02:18,787 Speaker 4: I think it's exactly that. 44 00:02:19,067 --> 00:02:21,947 Speaker 5: I think it's to come in and uh, you know, 45 00:02:21,947 --> 00:02:25,427 Speaker 5: obviously I know a number of the players relatively well. 46 00:02:25,707 --> 00:02:29,227 Speaker 5: I know the system relatively well, but I think you 47 00:02:29,307 --> 00:02:32,467 Speaker 5: only really appreciate, fully appreciate, you know, what's going on 48 00:02:32,547 --> 00:02:35,907 Speaker 5: internally when you when you're in the shoes. So just 49 00:02:36,027 --> 00:02:39,267 Speaker 5: allow myself the time to do that and to observe 50 00:02:39,307 --> 00:02:42,427 Speaker 5: and connect with, you know, with the players and and 51 00:02:42,507 --> 00:02:45,107 Speaker 5: see how they operate and really, you know internally what 52 00:02:45,387 --> 00:02:48,547 Speaker 5: has made them so strong over the last you know, 53 00:02:48,587 --> 00:02:51,027 Speaker 5: a little while without sort of scarizing it myself and 54 00:02:51,387 --> 00:02:54,867 Speaker 5: having prepared to play against them at at international level. 55 00:02:55,667 --> 00:02:57,307 Speaker 4: And then once that becomes. 56 00:02:56,907 --> 00:02:59,387 Speaker 5: Clear, is just to be aware of, you know, what 57 00:02:59,467 --> 00:03:01,707 Speaker 5: are the little things that I can bring that will 58 00:03:01,827 --> 00:03:04,147 Speaker 5: you know, hopefully take the team to the next level. 59 00:03:05,187 --> 00:03:07,147 Speaker 5: And you have you have an idea in your mind 60 00:03:07,187 --> 00:03:09,747 Speaker 5: as to what that might be, but I think you 61 00:03:09,827 --> 00:03:11,787 Speaker 5: only truly know when you when you're when you're on 62 00:03:11,827 --> 00:03:12,227 Speaker 5: the tools. 63 00:03:13,027 --> 00:03:18,707 Speaker 3: Do you have an overriding coaching philosophy. 64 00:03:19,747 --> 00:03:21,867 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think probably a few things that make it up, 65 00:03:21,907 --> 00:03:25,587 Speaker 5: But firstly and most importantly, I would asked to see 66 00:03:25,627 --> 00:03:30,027 Speaker 5: my job is fundamentally to create the best, you know, 67 00:03:30,067 --> 00:03:33,147 Speaker 5: the best environment for for players to thrive in and 68 00:03:33,187 --> 00:03:35,787 Speaker 5: play the best kid for their country. So you know, 69 00:03:35,867 --> 00:03:38,187 Speaker 5: there's an element of support in that and there's an 70 00:03:38,187 --> 00:03:42,307 Speaker 5: element of challenge when required, and that's built really on 71 00:03:42,427 --> 00:03:45,787 Speaker 5: some relationships. And you know, you can only truly influence 72 00:03:45,827 --> 00:03:48,267 Speaker 5: someone if there's a there's a relationship of trust there, 73 00:03:48,347 --> 00:03:50,547 Speaker 5: so to build, you know, to build a relationship, to 74 00:03:50,547 --> 00:03:54,627 Speaker 5: build of trust and and be in a position to 75 00:03:54,707 --> 00:03:58,147 Speaker 5: help grow people's games. And growth can either be just 76 00:03:58,347 --> 00:04:01,067 Speaker 5: being more consistent with the strength or adding a few 77 00:04:01,547 --> 00:04:04,867 Speaker 5: things to the boat. But yeah, I mean that would 78 00:04:04,907 --> 00:04:08,267 Speaker 5: be my fundamental philosophy. Aren't coaching at. 79 00:04:08,267 --> 00:04:11,547 Speaker 3: The elite level, the elite international level, which is obviously 80 00:04:11,627 --> 00:04:13,827 Speaker 3: what this is, and even at the other levels you've coached, 81 00:04:13,867 --> 00:04:17,467 Speaker 3: you know, first class, et cetera. How much technical coaching 82 00:04:17,507 --> 00:04:20,347 Speaker 3: are you die presume you're not not teaching guys how 83 00:04:20,347 --> 00:04:22,707 Speaker 3: to play a better cover drive or or to bowl 84 00:04:22,907 --> 00:04:24,787 Speaker 3: a better and swinger or are you. 85 00:04:27,147 --> 00:04:30,787 Speaker 5: I guess depends at what level. You know, at provincial level, 86 00:04:31,387 --> 00:04:34,867 Speaker 5: you've probably got a spectrum of experience and young, very 87 00:04:34,907 --> 00:04:38,747 Speaker 5: young guys coming in who probably just learning about themselves 88 00:04:38,747 --> 00:04:41,427 Speaker 5: in their game, and then the game will challenge them 89 00:04:41,467 --> 00:04:45,347 Speaker 5: and and you know, push them to improve their games 90 00:04:45,427 --> 00:04:47,587 Speaker 5: or understand how to improve their games, and your more 91 00:04:47,627 --> 00:04:51,187 Speaker 5: experienced campaigner who who's probably become aware of hard to 92 00:04:51,267 --> 00:04:53,707 Speaker 5: delivery performance. But as you know, sort of you know, 93 00:04:54,187 --> 00:04:58,187 Speaker 5: performance ebbs and flows, and there's often a lot of 94 00:04:58,187 --> 00:05:02,187 Speaker 5: work to be done there at international level. You know, 95 00:05:02,187 --> 00:05:05,467 Speaker 5: obviously you have your specialists. Who are your technicians, do 96 00:05:05,787 --> 00:05:07,867 Speaker 5: you know, spend a great deal of time with the 97 00:05:07,867 --> 00:05:13,467 Speaker 5: guys on their skills specifically and and and obviously to dip. 98 00:05:13,227 --> 00:05:16,387 Speaker 4: Into the space of performance. This largely is mental. 99 00:05:17,427 --> 00:05:20,547 Speaker 5: So for me, it's really managing the process of performance 100 00:05:20,627 --> 00:05:25,147 Speaker 5: and understanding what each person might require. Will you will 101 00:05:25,147 --> 00:05:27,907 Speaker 5: you be picking covered drives? Probably not most of the time, 102 00:05:28,387 --> 00:05:30,227 Speaker 5: but as I said, you know, I think pick keep. 103 00:05:30,067 --> 00:05:31,227 Speaker 4: Into guys games. 104 00:05:30,987 --> 00:05:33,427 Speaker 5: It's my job to be aware along with the support 105 00:05:33,467 --> 00:05:36,147 Speaker 5: stuff as to what that might be and just been 106 00:05:36,227 --> 00:05:40,267 Speaker 5: sure that every time you run out onto the park. 107 00:05:40,267 --> 00:05:42,547 Speaker 5: As for the black Caps, you you're in the piece, 108 00:05:42,627 --> 00:05:44,627 Speaker 5: the best position to perform and you've been given the 109 00:05:44,707 --> 00:05:46,267 Speaker 5: best sciance and paceful to do that. 110 00:05:47,107 --> 00:05:50,267 Speaker 3: It's an ever changing cricketing landscape, as we know, with 111 00:05:50,587 --> 00:05:54,187 Speaker 3: more and more players turning down central contracts. How will 112 00:05:54,227 --> 00:05:58,267 Speaker 3: you navigate the the ever changing cricketing landscape as it 113 00:05:58,307 --> 00:05:59,707 Speaker 3: relates to the black Caps. 114 00:06:01,987 --> 00:06:04,747 Speaker 5: I mean, I suppose you're you're points have added one 115 00:06:04,787 --> 00:06:06,987 Speaker 5: and that it's changing all the time and pretty quickly, 116 00:06:07,947 --> 00:06:09,867 Speaker 5: and so it's real. It's really important for us to 117 00:06:09,907 --> 00:06:13,307 Speaker 5: be flexible and just to be looking to evolve and 118 00:06:13,387 --> 00:06:15,267 Speaker 5: even be the end of the evolution. And what is 119 00:06:15,307 --> 00:06:18,227 Speaker 5: obvious is that the cricket will it is very different 120 00:06:18,267 --> 00:06:21,667 Speaker 5: now to what it was, and our understanding of of 121 00:06:21,867 --> 00:06:24,987 Speaker 5: things needs to change and and be cognizant of that. 122 00:06:25,187 --> 00:06:28,107 Speaker 4: And obviously the leagues or or a big full factor. 123 00:06:29,307 --> 00:06:32,027 Speaker 5: But yeah, you know, you you still want to believe 124 00:06:32,107 --> 00:06:34,267 Speaker 5: that playing for the black Caps is the pinnacle and 125 00:06:34,347 --> 00:06:37,707 Speaker 5: priority for everyone. You know, it's our job to ensure 126 00:06:37,747 --> 00:06:41,027 Speaker 5: that that's other players skill and coming back to players 127 00:06:41,147 --> 00:06:43,467 Speaker 5: to get for the black Caps is something is the priority, 128 00:06:43,507 --> 00:06:45,987 Speaker 5: which is in the case now, it's work hard to 129 00:06:46,067 --> 00:06:51,187 Speaker 5: maintain that understanding that there's you know, that's the reality 130 00:06:51,187 --> 00:06:54,787 Speaker 5: around the financial pulls towards league ticket and you're. 131 00:06:54,667 --> 00:06:56,587 Speaker 4: Not gonna you're not going to be able to over. 132 00:06:56,507 --> 00:07:00,547 Speaker 5: Throw that and you really have to coexist rather than resist. 133 00:07:00,867 --> 00:07:04,827 Speaker 5: And so yeah, getting that balance right will obviously be tough. 134 00:07:05,787 --> 00:07:08,867 Speaker 5: It's un own territory, so we have to be really 135 00:07:08,867 --> 00:07:12,347 Speaker 5: expectable with that. But as I said, you know, maintaining 136 00:07:12,387 --> 00:07:16,147 Speaker 5: the culture, which there's a black comes first, and players 137 00:07:16,147 --> 00:07:17,107 Speaker 5: really want to be part of that. 138 00:07:17,667 --> 00:07:21,027 Speaker 3: To that point, then will you look to give selection 139 00:07:21,227 --> 00:07:23,747 Speaker 3: preference to your centrally contracted players. 140 00:07:26,307 --> 00:07:28,347 Speaker 5: I don't necessarily think that has to be the case. 141 00:07:28,387 --> 00:07:32,467 Speaker 5: I mean, obviously the centrally contracted players have submitted themselves 142 00:07:32,507 --> 00:07:35,707 Speaker 5: to playing for New Zealand and we respect that, and 143 00:07:35,747 --> 00:07:38,987 Speaker 5: the guys that haven't obviously do that for various reasons. 144 00:07:38,987 --> 00:07:42,787 Speaker 5: You know, so yes, priority will be given to them 145 00:07:43,027 --> 00:07:46,107 Speaker 5: in a manner, but making sure that, as I said, 146 00:07:46,107 --> 00:07:51,667 Speaker 5: that we stay flexible and that we understand the landscape 147 00:07:51,667 --> 00:07:52,627 Speaker 5: and we try and manage it. 148 00:07:52,667 --> 00:07:54,507 Speaker 4: And I think you said you've been figured. 149 00:07:54,507 --> 00:07:56,787 Speaker 5: I've really been at the forefront of trying to manage 150 00:07:57,267 --> 00:07:59,947 Speaker 5: you know what contracting can potentially look like in the 151 00:07:59,987 --> 00:08:02,187 Speaker 5: stiture with the you know, the creation of the casual 152 00:08:02,227 --> 00:08:05,987 Speaker 5: playing contracts and those so you know, those are contracts 153 00:08:05,987 --> 00:08:10,427 Speaker 5: in a man and we've seen over the last twelve 154 00:08:10,467 --> 00:08:12,907 Speaker 5: at months sety three different players have been used. 155 00:08:13,747 --> 00:08:16,267 Speaker 4: So it's inevitable that players will be picked out of 156 00:08:16,307 --> 00:08:17,227 Speaker 4: the side of the contract. 157 00:08:17,227 --> 00:08:21,347 Speaker 5: Group know whether that's down into the domestic space or guys. 158 00:08:21,427 --> 00:08:22,387 Speaker 4: But outside of that. 159 00:08:22,507 --> 00:08:25,547 Speaker 5: I mean that remains to be seen, but certainly be 160 00:08:25,627 --> 00:08:28,307 Speaker 5: hot to acknowledge the people who were committed in a 161 00:08:28,387 --> 00:08:31,187 Speaker 5: way saying for the black Caps, one of. 162 00:08:31,187 --> 00:08:34,707 Speaker 3: The criticisms aimed most often at your predecessor, Gary Stead 163 00:08:34,867 --> 00:08:38,707 Speaker 3: was he was too loyal to certain players. What is 164 00:08:38,707 --> 00:08:43,267 Speaker 3: your general philosophy, rob on selection and striking the balance 165 00:08:43,267 --> 00:08:46,787 Speaker 3: between loyalty and making change when it's needed. 166 00:08:49,507 --> 00:08:51,987 Speaker 5: Yeah, I really think it's you know, at the end 167 00:08:51,987 --> 00:08:53,467 Speaker 5: of the day, if you look back and you look 168 00:08:53,507 --> 00:08:58,707 Speaker 5: at the results, to be hard press to criticize, but 169 00:08:58,747 --> 00:09:02,227 Speaker 5: I do understand that comes with the territory. I think 170 00:09:02,307 --> 00:09:05,227 Speaker 5: from a players point of view, you always want to 171 00:09:05,227 --> 00:09:08,387 Speaker 5: look in front of you and see yourself being backed. 172 00:09:08,987 --> 00:09:11,507 Speaker 5: You appy to see other players getting back, knowing that 173 00:09:11,627 --> 00:09:13,747 Speaker 5: when your turn comes to du you know you have 174 00:09:13,827 --> 00:09:18,267 Speaker 5: the same great givens you. The game is a tough 175 00:09:18,267 --> 00:09:21,707 Speaker 5: one at times and inconsistency is part of it. So 176 00:09:21,747 --> 00:09:24,947 Speaker 5: I think you're understanding that, and then the balance is 177 00:09:24,947 --> 00:09:28,787 Speaker 5: also understanding that performance is important. It is a game 178 00:09:28,787 --> 00:09:32,667 Speaker 5: of performance. Ultimately, we compete to win and understanding how 179 00:09:32,667 --> 00:09:35,547 Speaker 5: we you know the team together in order to give 180 00:09:35,627 --> 00:09:38,827 Speaker 5: us the best chances is important. But I don't think 181 00:09:38,867 --> 00:09:41,427 Speaker 5: you lose out of out of really backing guys and 182 00:09:41,587 --> 00:09:44,347 Speaker 5: and and sticking with them for a period of time. 183 00:09:45,227 --> 00:09:46,947 Speaker 5: And you know how long is too long? Well, you 184 00:09:46,987 --> 00:09:49,227 Speaker 5: know how long we pissed the string ultimately a speech 185 00:09:49,307 --> 00:09:52,787 Speaker 5: coast to decide what they look like and really make 186 00:09:52,827 --> 00:09:54,427 Speaker 5: the best decision for the team at the end of 187 00:09:54,427 --> 00:09:56,947 Speaker 5: the day, which is which is fundamentally what you're doing. 188 00:09:58,187 --> 00:10:01,067 Speaker 3: Jial and Cricket have obviously made the decision to keep 189 00:10:01,107 --> 00:10:04,067 Speaker 3: one coach over both or rather all three formats, both 190 00:10:04,067 --> 00:10:07,867 Speaker 3: color balls. Uh do you have a view on on 191 00:10:08,067 --> 00:10:11,947 Speaker 3: splitting the red and white ball responsibilities. I mean, were 192 00:10:11,987 --> 00:10:13,707 Speaker 3: you always keen on doing all three? 193 00:10:16,747 --> 00:10:20,107 Speaker 5: Yeah? Absolutely I was. I mean really a purist of 194 00:10:20,187 --> 00:10:23,067 Speaker 5: the game at heart, so I have a huge respect 195 00:10:23,107 --> 00:10:27,027 Speaker 5: for the for test figures. You know, it is the 196 00:10:27,107 --> 00:10:29,987 Speaker 5: toughest sporting coat in the world I reckon in terms 197 00:10:30,027 --> 00:10:31,987 Speaker 5: of requirements, so nothing. 198 00:10:31,827 --> 00:10:33,107 Speaker 4: Quite like it. 199 00:10:33,187 --> 00:10:37,427 Speaker 5: So, as I said, really, you know, the opportunity to 200 00:10:37,627 --> 00:10:42,587 Speaker 5: do both formats of the game was an awesome. 201 00:10:42,267 --> 00:10:43,827 Speaker 4: Dal guide to the job. 202 00:10:43,907 --> 00:10:47,947 Speaker 5: Absolutely, you know, I think from a split coaching point 203 00:10:47,987 --> 00:10:50,307 Speaker 5: of view, I don't think you can throw a blanket 204 00:10:50,347 --> 00:10:53,587 Speaker 5: over over whether it's rights or wrong, because I don't 205 00:10:53,587 --> 00:10:55,827 Speaker 5: think that's the case. I think you've got to sort 206 00:10:55,827 --> 00:10:59,907 Speaker 5: of acknowledge his environment weekly and decide what's best. And 207 00:11:00,227 --> 00:11:02,907 Speaker 5: in this instance of his news even Peter started that 208 00:11:03,627 --> 00:11:07,747 Speaker 5: that single coaches is the best way forward given the 209 00:11:07,747 --> 00:11:11,507 Speaker 5: the landscape of cricket and the player turnover given you know, 210 00:11:11,547 --> 00:11:14,187 Speaker 5: given the franchise league, except for et cetera, I think 211 00:11:14,227 --> 00:11:18,027 Speaker 5: it is beneficial to have one leadership figure who's sort 212 00:11:18,027 --> 00:11:21,267 Speaker 5: of managing the whole process, and then obviously behavior assisted 213 00:11:21,347 --> 00:11:23,987 Speaker 5: way supports staff when needs be. 214 00:11:25,067 --> 00:11:30,227 Speaker 3: In cricket, obviously the coach captain relationship is probably more 215 00:11:30,227 --> 00:11:31,987 Speaker 3: important than it is in a lot of other sports. 216 00:11:32,307 --> 00:11:34,747 Speaker 3: How important will it be that you forge good relationships 217 00:11:34,747 --> 00:11:37,427 Speaker 3: with Red Bull captain Tom Latham and your white ball 218 00:11:37,467 --> 00:11:38,387 Speaker 3: skipper Mitchell Center. 219 00:11:41,187 --> 00:11:43,307 Speaker 4: Ah? Yeah, I mean it's really a non negotiable at 220 00:11:43,347 --> 00:11:43,987 Speaker 4: the end of the day. 221 00:11:44,307 --> 00:11:47,947 Speaker 5: You know, the decision making importance of the skiff is 222 00:11:48,147 --> 00:11:50,467 Speaker 5: huge and their influence in the team is massive, and 223 00:11:50,907 --> 00:11:53,627 Speaker 5: out on the field, you know they're doing ninety five 224 00:11:53,667 --> 00:11:56,907 Speaker 5: percent of the decision making and the work. So it's 225 00:11:56,907 --> 00:12:02,067 Speaker 5: fairly to understand how we operate together. How can our 226 00:12:02,107 --> 00:12:06,507 Speaker 5: best support the captains to give you ultimately gives them 227 00:12:06,507 --> 00:12:09,107 Speaker 5: then put him in the best position you know to 228 00:12:09,187 --> 00:12:13,507 Speaker 5: deliver for the team. So your relationships so important that 229 00:12:13,547 --> 00:12:21,427 Speaker 5: everyone and players and everyone you know. So but as 230 00:12:21,467 --> 00:12:24,467 Speaker 5: you say, the skippers, ultimately you know they really are 231 00:12:24,547 --> 00:12:27,987 Speaker 5: important to the way everything runs. And so making sure 232 00:12:28,027 --> 00:12:30,067 Speaker 5: that ours are really good. 233 00:12:30,787 --> 00:12:34,027 Speaker 4: I give them great clarity. They are plars do to 234 00:12:34,107 --> 00:12:35,067 Speaker 4: do where I. 235 00:12:35,067 --> 00:12:38,747 Speaker 5: Stand and what I think and then deflectively as a 236 00:12:38,827 --> 00:12:41,707 Speaker 5: collaborative units going to make the best. 237 00:12:42,187 --> 00:12:42,747 Speaker 4: Team out there. 238 00:12:43,627 --> 00:12:46,387 Speaker 3: All right, So just to finish, you're ready for the 239 00:12:47,067 --> 00:12:49,987 Speaker 3: increased spotlight that comes with us role. I mean, obviously 240 00:12:49,987 --> 00:12:52,307 Speaker 3: you had the South Africa means white ball teams and 241 00:12:52,587 --> 00:12:55,187 Speaker 3: they love their cricket in South Africa. You've done provincial 242 00:12:55,187 --> 00:12:58,987 Speaker 3: cricket here, but there's nothing like a national coach to 243 00:12:59,027 --> 00:13:01,187 Speaker 3: get the talk back lines ringing, Rob. 244 00:13:03,587 --> 00:13:06,307 Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, as you said, unfortunately, I have the 245 00:13:06,667 --> 00:13:09,387 Speaker 5: you know, the experience of South Africa under the belt, 246 00:13:10,027 --> 00:13:14,107 Speaker 5: fully understands what comes with what the gig and fully 247 00:13:14,187 --> 00:13:17,867 Speaker 5: understands you know, the responsibilities of us. I mean the 248 00:13:17,867 --> 00:13:20,627 Speaker 5: you know, the s whattlight as you call it, is 249 00:13:20,667 --> 00:13:22,787 Speaker 5: always going to be there as all opinions be. 250 00:13:23,587 --> 00:13:25,427 Speaker 4: And that's part of it, and it's all you know. 251 00:13:25,587 --> 00:13:28,787 Speaker 5: It doesn't detract from the from the one, the responsibility, 252 00:13:28,787 --> 00:13:30,347 Speaker 5: but two opportunities. 253 00:13:31,907 --> 00:13:34,467 Speaker 3: We'll congrats Rob on being a pointed black Caps coach. 254 00:13:34,627 --> 00:13:37,467 Speaker 3: Look forward to chatting often over the next few years. 255 00:13:37,467 --> 00:13:38,667 Speaker 3: Thanks for your time this afternoon. 256 00:13:39,707 --> 00:13:41,627 Speaker 4: I look forward to take it now. 257 00:13:41,667 --> 00:13:43,267 Speaker 3: You take it to Rob. Thanks and day. That's Rob 258 00:13:43,267 --> 00:13:46,267 Speaker 3: Walter Bland, new black Caps coach. 259 00:13:47,107 --> 00:13:50,307 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 260 00:13:50,387 --> 00:13:53,347 Speaker 1: to news talks it'd be weekends from mid day, or 261 00:13:53,387 --> 00:13:55,347 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio