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Speaker 1: It's coming up nineteen away from six.

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Speaker 1: On the Huddle. This evening got David Farrakuria Polster and

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Speaker 1: KII Blog and Allie Jones read Piahlo guys Yheather David,

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Speaker 1: is it normal for our spies to warn the other

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Speaker 1: spies that we busted them spying?

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Speaker 3: It is quite normal, would be my assumption.

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Speaker 1: I feel like spycraft though, does it no?

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Speaker 3: But it's sort of like you had saved a lot

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Speaker 3: of time and bother if you just say look, we're

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Speaker 3: on to you, we know what you're doing, rather than

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Speaker 3: have to keep monitoring that they'll go away.

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Speaker 1: But they'll just try harder to hide themselves, wren't they?

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Speaker 3: They They will, But it's not the sort of activity

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Speaker 3: where if you had found out, y know, there was

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Speaker 3: a secret agent who was stealing secrets, that's not something

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Speaker 3: you'd say we know about all right. But this is

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Speaker 3: like having front groups at set find to stir things up.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Allie, how do you feel about this?

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Speaker 4: In freaking I think yeah, it doesn't. I think there

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Speaker 4: are two different things here. Firstly, there's that spying and

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Speaker 4: that infiltration that we heard a bit about there, and

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Speaker 4: then I think they're those lunatics that try and promote ideologies.

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Speaker 4: And in christ Church, of course we're well aware of

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Speaker 4: that after the terrible, tragic Mosque shootings some years ago.

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Speaker 4: But I also, you know, and I don't want to

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Speaker 4: make light of this because that was tragic and it

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Speaker 4: could happen again. But I find this really quite bizarre.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I watch a lot of Netflix, I watch

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Speaker 4: a lot of streaming stuff on spies, and I think

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Speaker 4: we are very relaxed in New Zealand. But I just

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Speaker 4: can't imagine spies here, can you. I mean, it makes

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Speaker 4: me think of Wellington paranormal.

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Speaker 1: It just seems bizarre, it does, I mean, David, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Allie makes a really good point, right because we had

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Speaker 1: a couple of spies in Parliament. We kicked them out.

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Speaker 1: They're not very good at it, are they.

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Speaker 3: Well. The thing is, we don't off probably since the

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Speaker 3: seventies eighties, do we have yo like see on Netflix

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Speaker 3: the Americans the deep undercover spies. Probably not, because our

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Speaker 3: military defense secrets aren't really that important. But what we

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Speaker 3: definitely have is influence operations. We see and our name.

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Speaker 3: One of People's Republic of China puts many millions of

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Speaker 3: dollars into Confucius Institutes, into funding through universities to try

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Speaker 3: and get their view of the world normalized. In New Zealan,

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Speaker 3: I think there is the bigger issue that we need

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Speaker 3: to be concerned about that you've got these influence operations

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Speaker 1: David Okay, explain to me why I should be worried

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Speaker 1: about that, because I look at that and think, Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's an idea. You're pitching an idea at me. You're

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Speaker 1: putting a lot of money into an idea. I'm not

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Speaker 1: scared of your idea. I want to understand your idea.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't feel to me particularly nefarious, should it.

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Speaker 3: Well, the furious part is when it comes that he

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Speaker 3: who has the gold you know, the Golden role. And

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Speaker 3: what you've then had is that the universe start to

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Speaker 3: self censor, for they don't want to lose the funding

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Speaker 3: they have, certain areas dimmed off topic. You've had protest

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Speaker 3: benners removed from campus because they were worried they might

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Speaker 3: upset the government of China. That's when it becomes a

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Speaker 3: real problem of the fundings, no strings attached, fine, but

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Speaker 3: the funding of courses attached.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is the problem, Mayali. Where there's money, if

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Speaker 1: you step out of line and you lose the money.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely. And as we know, you just follow

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Speaker 4: the money. You just look at some of the money

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Speaker 4: that's being spent in the Pacific at the moment. We're

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Speaker 4: in Fiji a couple of years ago and there's some

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Speaker 4: amazing stuff happening there and it's all funded by the

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Speaker 4: People's Republic of China. And we know that we're in

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Speaker 4: a great position here in the Pacific. There are country

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Speaker 4: is very interested in getting a hold on, you know,

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Speaker 4: in the Pacific here, and that would be the main reason.

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Speaker 4: But I still can't get past that almost comic idea

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Speaker 4: of you know, get smart or it just seems bizarre

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Speaker 4: in a country like New Zealand, it just seems weird.

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Speaker 1: Back of Huttle, Allie Jones and David Farrah Ali, what

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Speaker 1: do you think about this tourism levy going up and

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Speaker 1: are you worried about it putting the tourists off?

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Speaker 4: No, not worried about it putting the two. The only

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Speaker 4: tourists I am concerned about it putting off is the

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Speaker 4: I was going to say lower spending. They actually don't

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Speaker 4: spend less when you add it up because they stay longer.

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Speaker 4: But I'm talking about the backpackers. The backpackers and the

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Speaker 4: self contained cheap car travelers come here. Now two things.

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Speaker 4: As I said, they stay here longer, so they spend

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Speaker 4: less per day, but they stay here longer so they

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Speaker 4: spend well. And also they come back when they're older

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Speaker 4: and they spend more than and they bring their kids.

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Speaker 1: I think, I think that's definitely ALI. This thing is

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Speaker 1: kind of slightly geared towards getting rid of them.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think that's a shame, and I don't you know,

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Speaker 4: they're not looking at their own stats. If that's the case,

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Speaker 4: I think overall it's a good idea. You know, when

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Speaker 4: we were in Europe recently, you pay anything from two

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Speaker 4: bucks to ten bucks a night on top of what

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Speaker 4: you're paying for accommodation, and that's the tax there. We

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Speaker 4: paid forty eight dollars for a three hour over going

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Speaker 4: through the US. So you know, I do think we've

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Speaker 4: charged too little in New Zealand. But I would hate

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Speaker 4: to think that we're going to lose those longest staying

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Speaker 4: backpacker tourists.

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Speaker 1: David, I reckon this is going to prove to be

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Speaker 1: popular amongst the public because we are sick of them

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Speaker 1: kind of being subsidized at us having to subsidize it.

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Speaker 1: But I just wonder if the timing is a bit.

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Speaker 3: Off, it will be popular. People always like taxes, and

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Speaker 3: effectively it's a tax that someone else pays. This is

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Speaker 3: from a popularity point of view. No one who votes

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Speaker 3: in New Zealand will have to pay this tax where

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Speaker 3: it's a cumbers a lot. I understand the need that

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Speaker 3: you have to have infrastructure funded for, and you know

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Speaker 3: GST might not be enough, but just one hundred dollars

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Speaker 3: per airport entry seems a bit of like someone who

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Speaker 3: comes here for a one day conference will pay the

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Speaker 3: same as someone who spends three weeks traveling around touristeem

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Speaker 3: through New Zealand, etc. You know, an actual bed tax

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Speaker 3: would probably make a bit more sense than just this

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Speaker 3: flat one hundred dollar levy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Actually, somebody on the text has said exactly that, David,

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Speaker 1: so great minds think alike that. Now, Allie, tell me

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Speaker 1: something because you're over fifty, aren't you.

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Hey, are you people getting divorced?

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Speaker 4: Look, there are a lot of us getting divorced. I'm guessing.

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Speaker 4: I'm I think we probably get to an age where

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Speaker 4: I think society has changed and we can do it.

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Speaker 4: It seems so common now and so normal. I think. Also,

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Speaker 4: women are more financially independent than they have been, although

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Speaker 4: less than the key we say, because we stopped working

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Speaker 4: for a while to have kids. We like to travel.

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Speaker 4: He likes to stay at home and watch the tally.

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Speaker 4: You know, there are things like that happening too. But

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Speaker 4: I think it's got to do with women just going no,

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Speaker 4: actually I want this and I'm going to do this,

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Speaker 4: and good on them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and David, are you over fifty?

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Speaker 3: I am? And as you know, God said yes yes,

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Speaker 3: So I wan't my decisions.

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Speaker 1: What was it, David?

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Speaker 3: It did you stop?

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Speaker 1: Do you just start doing the dishwasher properly?

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Speaker 3: I think they've been part of the could well be

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Speaker 3: I've since my crage, I've talked to a lot of

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Speaker 3: too that you do get frustrated that tensions do build up. Now,

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Speaker 3: obviously some people work through them, some don't. But the

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Speaker 3: to keep working really hard at a relationship. You can't

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Speaker 3: just say, yep, we're now on this comfortable routine, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: There because they all have these tensions and stresses that

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Speaker 1: David, do you reckon because your kid is young? Do

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Speaker 1: you reckon that the tension? I mean like it's exacerbated

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Speaker 1: by having kids, right, because young kids, especially under five,

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, The real challenge when you have young kids is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but a big part of that as well as

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Speaker 4: it does add stress, but it's great when they go.

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Speaker 4: It's good when they leave the charm and I think, yesh, Ellie,

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Speaker 1: Ellie, you're telling us to two people who are like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll just keep looking at It's like light at

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Speaker 4: the end of the tunnel. Enjoy them now. But it's

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Speaker 3: I just have to share this my see video of

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Speaker 3: knowing no one on the radio put a letter under

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Speaker 3: the door saying can we please have a wine gum?

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Speaker 3: Flip over this paper pot it back out to tell

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Speaker 3: us if we can or not. PS, I love you

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Speaker 3: very much.

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Speaker 1: Did you did you do that?

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Speaker 3: No, I've only just found the letter.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that is so sweet. You give them a wine gum.

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Speaker 1: David please, that's David Farah and help them. Yeah. Probably

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Speaker 1: they covered all bases, smart little ones. It's how gorgeous

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Speaker 1: is that? David Farah and Aarlie Jones a huddled.

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