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Speaker 1: Barry so Per, senior political correspondence with us ALLO.

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Speaker 2: Barry, Good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so one day after the CGT feeling better about

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Speaker 1: it today.

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Speaker 2: I don't know whether the label will be feeling that

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Speaker 2: good about it actually, because there's been quite a lot

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Speaker 2: of criticism. But they've they've promoted another bill today they're

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Speaker 2: bringing in, and that's the Pay Transparency Bill, and that's

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Speaker 2: been brought in by Carmel Seppaloni, the women spokesperson for

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Speaker 2: the party. She says it will mandate pay gap reporting

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Speaker 2: and will require employers that's with businesses of more than

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty staff to list the pay rangers

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Speaker 2: and job ads that they put in the paper with

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Speaker 2: the goal of shining a light on disparities and accelerating

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Speaker 2: progress on equal pay. So there's another requirement on employers

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Speaker 2: that will be coming their way of flavor against the

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Speaker 2: Treasury benches. Chris Hopkins today said the reintroduced the fear

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Speaker 2: pay agreements and also equity bargaining, so that's all coming back,

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Speaker 2: and he said that's essentially not a bottom line. He

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Speaker 2: wouldn't say, but yesterday's leaked policy on the capital gains

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Speaker 2: tax will be a bottom line in coalition negotiations if

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Speaker 2: they get to that after next year's election. So an

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Speaker 2: unequivocal Chris Hipkins made that statement today.

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Speaker 3: This is the policy that we are campaigning on, and

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Speaker 3: this is the policy that we will implement if we

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Speaker 3: form government after the next election. Because I'm not a

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Speaker 3: complete pushover like Christopher Luxan. I don't think the smaller

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Speaker 3: parties should call all of the shots. I've been very

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Speaker 3: very clear. Under a Labor government, I will be the

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Speaker 3: Prime Minister. Barbara Edmonds will be the Minister of Finance.

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Speaker 3: That is not up for negotiation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the potential coalition partner. The Greens also see

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Speaker 2: a more widely scope capital gains tax and a wealth

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Speaker 2: tax is their bottom line, according to Chloe Swarbrick, which

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Speaker 2: will give us more than free doctors visits, a three

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Speaker 2: free doctors visits a year.

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Speaker 4: What the Greens are proposed is a tax on the

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Speaker 4: wealthiest three percent in this country. We can have free GPS,

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Speaker 4: free dental care, free early childhood education, we can look

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Speaker 4: after our environment and protect our climate, and have a

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Speaker 4: ninety one percent income tax cut for a tax cut

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Speaker 4: for ninety one percent of New Zealanders a bottom line

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Speaker 4: tends to mean that that's the starting point and we'd

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Speaker 4: like to go a lot further.

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Speaker 2: So there you go a lot of agreement in the

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Speaker 2: lead up.

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Speaker 1: The bottom lines.

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Speaker 3: It's going to exactly.

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Speaker 1: Hey, what do you make of Winnie Pea giving luso

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Speaker 1: and nudge?

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Speaker 2: Well, it was. It's interesting, isn't it, Because like I've

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Speaker 2: said before that once Winston Peter, we've.

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Speaker 1: Got a work at we've got the final work at.

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Speaker 1: England's out for one hundred and seventy five. They playing

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Speaker 1: I just carry on, Barry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, where was I Heather? I was being interrupted there,

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Speaker 2: but yes, the Winston is in Scandinavia at the moment,

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Speaker 2: and Chris Lackson, of course, he's at the East age

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Speaker 2: A summit. He was and quite a lumpur, yeah, And

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Speaker 2: he said that he posted on x that they're all

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Speaker 2: doing that these days, aren't they really? He said that

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Speaker 2: I've just done a deal for his words with Southeast

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Speaker 2: Asian Nations that will help grow our economy here at home.

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Speaker 2: Peters who says I said in Scandinavia he put at

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Speaker 2: the top.

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Speaker 1: Of that he reposted it rested we.

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Speaker 2: Is and that's we did.

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Speaker 1: The work runs his own Twitter account, doesn't he does?

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Speaker 1: So did he then? Did he do that after a

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Speaker 1: few whiskies and then delete it?

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Speaker 2: Well, no, I wouldn't say that here. He wouldn't behave

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Speaker 2: like that, but.

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Speaker 1: We obviously regretted it after doing it.

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Speaker 2: I find it. I find the whole thing incredible that

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Speaker 2: politicians now go on social media at the drop of

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Speaker 2: a hat. I mean, you know, honestly, to even say

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Speaker 2: that it was deleted, do even say it does under

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Speaker 2: mine what Chris lux.

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Speaker 1: Winston Peter's the Foreign Minister, has undermined the Prime Minister,

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Speaker 1: Chris Luckson on so many things already, right, so it's not.

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Speaker 2: The boss, you know, he's the boss and anything that

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Speaker 2: has anything to do with the Foreign Office, it's Winston.

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Speaker 2: Chris Luckson should butt out. He's the Prime Minister.

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Speaker 1: And Paigning has done. Okay, what do you think of

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Speaker 1: this New Zealand initiative idea that we increase our our

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Speaker 1: parliamentary is pamily was a fifty.

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Speaker 2: Fifty to one. Well, you know they say it's the

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Speaker 2: thirtieth anniversary of MMP. Well it's actually not until next year.

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Speaker 2: Is the thirty thirtieth anniversary? Yeah, this is the New

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Speaker 2: Zealand initiative, and what they are saying is that, look,

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Speaker 2: we've got a small parliament one hundred and twenty MPs

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Speaker 2: and we've got one hundred and twenty three at the

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Speaker 2: moment with the overhang, but they're saying we should increase

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Speaker 2: it to a one hundred and seventy. Well, I looked

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Speaker 2: up a number of countries and in fact we are

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Speaker 2: a very small parliament. Yes, or five million people. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Ireland has got several hundred MPs, they've got two chambers.

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Speaker 2: Look at Finland, the Nordic countries, they've got over two

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Speaker 2: hundred MP's for the similar sort of population. So we

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Speaker 2: are quite small. But for goodness sake, I don't think

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Speaker 2: we should have any more MPs than what we've got

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Speaker 2: at the marment.

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Speaker 1: But the problem that we've got is we may have

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Speaker 1: actually quite a small parliament, but we have got an

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Speaker 1: enormous local body.

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Speaker 4: Actually more.

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Speaker 1: There are one hundred and seventy politicians in Auckland and

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Speaker 1: those are just local body politicians. So I'm happy to

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Speaker 1: do a deal, get an AX and we just take

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Speaker 1: to local body politicians and we can have more central.

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Speaker 2: We'll have to join the New Zealand Initiative, Heather, and

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Speaker 2: give your views idea.

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Speaker 1: OK, thanks very much, appreciate it Bury so for senior

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Speaker 1: political correspondent that Bury. Its the black Caps. By the way.

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