1 00:00:07,173 --> 00:00:10,493 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,493 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,493 --> 00:00:14,693 Speaker 2: A'd be quarter to eleven on News Talks. D be 4 00:00:14,813 --> 00:00:17,573 Speaker 2: viewed a list all of the common things that gps 5 00:00:17,613 --> 00:00:20,173 Speaker 2: and doctors are presented with. Colds would be near the 6 00:00:20,213 --> 00:00:23,013 Speaker 2: top of the list. But also, and to surprise me, 7 00:00:23,693 --> 00:00:27,373 Speaker 2: cold sores. Our doctor, doctor Brian Betty, is here with 8 00:00:27,493 --> 00:00:30,453 Speaker 2: us this morning. What in it, Brian, I'm er Jack 9 00:00:30,533 --> 00:00:32,573 Speaker 2: not to be here? Yeah I was. I was a 10 00:00:32,573 --> 00:00:34,453 Speaker 2: little bit surprised by this. But but take us back 11 00:00:34,453 --> 00:00:36,413 Speaker 2: to first principles. What are cold saws? 12 00:00:37,493 --> 00:00:40,733 Speaker 3: Yeah, look incredibly common. They can be very mild or 13 00:00:40,813 --> 00:00:45,413 Speaker 3: quite severe. And the small fluid filled blisters that are 14 00:00:45,413 --> 00:00:47,693 Speaker 3: tear on the skin and they often appear in little patches. 15 00:00:48,253 --> 00:00:51,493 Speaker 3: Now commonly what people say is among the lips, the chin, 16 00:00:51,613 --> 00:00:55,413 Speaker 3: the cheeks, and sometimes in the nostrils and more severe 17 00:00:55,493 --> 00:00:57,333 Speaker 3: cases they can actually happen on the roof of the 18 00:00:57,413 --> 00:01:00,133 Speaker 3: mouth or the guns and they tend to be particularly painful. 19 00:01:00,813 --> 00:01:03,293 Speaker 3: So what what patients will notice is is it starts 20 00:01:03,293 --> 00:01:07,133 Speaker 3: with a sort of ingling, riching over thatarticularly area of 21 00:01:07,173 --> 00:01:10,053 Speaker 3: the skin, and over forty eight hours, these little clusters 22 00:01:10,053 --> 00:01:13,333 Speaker 3: and blisters actually develop. Then given about a week later, 23 00:01:13,373 --> 00:01:15,813 Speaker 3: a few days later, they actually burst and they start 24 00:01:15,853 --> 00:01:18,253 Speaker 3: to crust over and dry out, sort of like if 25 00:01:18,293 --> 00:01:20,493 Speaker 3: you've got kids have had chicken pox, a similar sort 26 00:01:20,493 --> 00:01:23,493 Speaker 3: of thing tends to happen. They just dry out, take 27 00:01:23,533 --> 00:01:26,533 Speaker 3: about two to three weeks to hel up completely, and 28 00:01:26,733 --> 00:01:29,573 Speaker 3: sometimes we do see things like a slight temperature, a 29 00:01:29,613 --> 00:01:32,533 Speaker 3: slight sore throat, and the headache associated with them. But 30 00:01:32,653 --> 00:01:34,373 Speaker 3: incredibly incredibly. 31 00:01:33,893 --> 00:01:35,773 Speaker 2: Common, and they're caused by a virus. 32 00:01:35,813 --> 00:01:38,893 Speaker 3: That yeah, so they're caused by something called the Herpee 33 00:01:38,973 --> 00:01:43,293 Speaker 3: simplex type one virus. Now, Herpee simplex type two is 34 00:01:43,333 --> 00:01:46,653 Speaker 3: a thing that causes chenital herpes. It's actually a virus. 35 00:01:46,653 --> 00:01:50,213 Speaker 3: It's related, but it's a separate virus, and it causes 36 00:01:50,253 --> 00:01:54,373 Speaker 3: these things called cold slaws cold saws. Now, they are 37 00:01:54,413 --> 00:01:57,533 Speaker 3: spread through close contact, So if you've got a cold saw, 38 00:01:57,653 --> 00:02:01,373 Speaker 3: things like kissine, sharing utensils or sharing toils will actually 39 00:02:01,373 --> 00:02:04,333 Speaker 3: spread the virus, so you need to be particularly careful 40 00:02:04,373 --> 00:02:07,133 Speaker 3: of that. And they are more likely bread when the 41 00:02:07,253 --> 00:02:09,213 Speaker 3: blisters burst because there's a bit of fluid there which 42 00:02:09,253 --> 00:02:11,853 Speaker 3: is very easy to transmit. Now, the other really interesting 43 00:02:11,893 --> 00:02:15,493 Speaker 3: thing about them is the virus once you've got it. 44 00:02:16,053 --> 00:02:18,333 Speaker 3: The virus once it goes away, it hides in the 45 00:02:18,373 --> 00:02:21,453 Speaker 3: nerve cells of the face. Okay, so the virus never 46 00:02:21,573 --> 00:02:23,933 Speaker 3: ever goes away, It just suits it and it can 47 00:02:23,973 --> 00:02:28,333 Speaker 3: actually be triggered by things like stress, fatigue, trauma, fever, 48 00:02:28,613 --> 00:02:31,973 Speaker 3: sun wind. So some people get these recurrent episodes of 49 00:02:31,973 --> 00:02:35,133 Speaker 3: it triggered by what we call these trigger factors, and 50 00:02:35,173 --> 00:02:37,573 Speaker 3: the virus pops out again and you get another cold sauce. 51 00:02:37,613 --> 00:02:39,973 Speaker 3: So you never actually get rid of the virus. It's 52 00:02:40,053 --> 00:02:40,613 Speaker 3: quite interesting. 53 00:02:40,773 --> 00:02:42,933 Speaker 2: So how do you treat them? 54 00:02:43,453 --> 00:02:45,573 Speaker 3: Look, they get better over two to three weeks, so 55 00:02:45,653 --> 00:02:48,253 Speaker 3: regardless of what you do, they clear up and get better. 56 00:02:48,293 --> 00:02:50,013 Speaker 3: So that's the first thing to say about them. But 57 00:02:50,133 --> 00:02:52,853 Speaker 3: often we advise simple things like, you know, if you're 58 00:02:52,893 --> 00:02:55,813 Speaker 3: going outside, wear some sun block or lip balm because 59 00:02:55,813 --> 00:03:00,373 Speaker 3: that just helps protect the area that's affected. Paracetamol or 60 00:03:00,453 --> 00:03:03,693 Speaker 3: broof and can help with the pain. Look, avoid salty 61 00:03:03,733 --> 00:03:07,013 Speaker 3: foods around them. Anyone who's eating sort of chips with 62 00:03:07,053 --> 00:03:08,933 Speaker 3: the sore throat will know what I'm talking about. That 63 00:03:08,973 --> 00:03:10,933 Speaker 3: can cause a lot of pain. Things like ice and 64 00:03:10,973 --> 00:03:13,933 Speaker 3: warm flannels can help. And actually you can go to 65 00:03:13,933 --> 00:03:16,133 Speaker 3: the chemists, go to see a chemist, and there is 66 00:03:16,253 --> 00:03:18,613 Speaker 3: anti viral cream. You can get something called a cycle 67 00:03:18,613 --> 00:03:21,613 Speaker 3: of via or fam cyclavia cream and that can speed 68 00:03:21,693 --> 00:03:22,573 Speaker 3: up the healing of them. 69 00:03:22,893 --> 00:03:26,053 Speaker 2: And is there anything else we should be thinking about 70 00:03:26,093 --> 00:03:29,213 Speaker 2: if we experience cultures obviously trying not to you know, 71 00:03:29,493 --> 00:03:31,533 Speaker 2: share drinks and that kind of thing. 72 00:03:32,133 --> 00:03:34,613 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's really important. You don't want to spread them, 73 00:03:34,613 --> 00:03:36,453 Speaker 3: so kissing you know, as we said, towels and things 74 00:03:36,533 --> 00:03:39,893 Speaker 3: don't do that. Look, they do recur, as I said, 75 00:03:39,933 --> 00:03:42,173 Speaker 3: with these trigger factors. So if you know that the 76 00:03:42,213 --> 00:03:45,093 Speaker 3: wind or the sun suddenly triggers them or something triggers them, 77 00:03:45,173 --> 00:03:48,253 Speaker 3: try and avoid that if you can. There's actually a 78 00:03:48,293 --> 00:03:51,813 Speaker 3: natural remedy. Kanooka honey based cream has been shown to 79 00:03:51,813 --> 00:03:55,253 Speaker 3: be quite quite beneficial with them. So there is a 80 00:03:55,373 --> 00:03:59,053 Speaker 3: proven natural remedy around which is quite quite interesting. But 81 00:03:59,173 --> 00:04:02,133 Speaker 3: I would say look at the particularly large they don't 82 00:04:02,173 --> 00:04:06,013 Speaker 3: clear up over about two weeks or they're near the eye, 83 00:04:06,093 --> 00:04:09,293 Speaker 3: and particular the eyes we get worried about. Please please 84 00:04:09,333 --> 00:04:11,173 Speaker 3: go and see your doctor or GP and get them 85 00:04:11,253 --> 00:04:12,013 Speaker 3: checked out. Please. 86 00:04:12,093 --> 00:04:15,253 Speaker 2: Okay, Oh that's really that's really good advice. Thank you. Hey, 87 00:04:15,453 --> 00:04:17,653 Speaker 2: are you into the Olympics. Brian is that are you in. 88 00:04:17,693 --> 00:04:21,333 Speaker 3: A well, I will be watching them. Yeah, but I 89 00:04:21,333 --> 00:04:24,173 Speaker 3: didn't manage to watch the ceremony this morning. 90 00:04:24,293 --> 00:04:26,333 Speaker 2: It was only five hours long, don't worry about that. 91 00:04:28,653 --> 00:04:30,333 Speaker 2: It was pretty good. They had, you know, they had 92 00:04:30,333 --> 00:04:34,653 Speaker 2: Celindi on and Lady Gaga, rough, arm A Dull and yeah, 93 00:04:35,453 --> 00:04:38,213 Speaker 2: Serena Williams. Yeah it was. It was spectacular. But is 94 00:04:38,213 --> 00:04:40,613 Speaker 2: there an event that stands out to you that you're 95 00:04:40,653 --> 00:04:42,373 Speaker 2: that you're sort of most keen forum. 96 00:04:43,413 --> 00:04:46,373 Speaker 3: So look, look, I think the canoeing, Actually I'm interesting 97 00:04:47,053 --> 00:04:50,093 Speaker 3: the kayaking. It's kayaking, isn't it. You know, at least 98 00:04:50,093 --> 00:04:51,813 Speaker 3: Carrington that I think that's going to be really really 99 00:04:51,813 --> 00:04:54,013 Speaker 3: interesting this year in terms of what happened. 100 00:04:55,133 --> 00:04:58,693 Speaker 2: Such competition in New Zealand, right, yeah, the reason to 101 00:04:58,733 --> 00:05:00,333 Speaker 2: think that we could be one too in the in 102 00:05:00,373 --> 00:05:02,053 Speaker 2: the Woman's came, well, that's exactly right. 103 00:05:02,093 --> 00:05:04,173 Speaker 3: So I think that's why it's well well worth watching. 104 00:05:04,253 --> 00:05:07,173 Speaker 3: But I'll be interested in Dylan Schmid as well. Trumpet leaders. 105 00:05:07,333 --> 00:05:10,373 Speaker 3: I think that'll be really interesting as well, so I've 106 00:05:10,133 --> 00:05:13,213 Speaker 3: been watching him closely. So look, I think it'd be 107 00:05:13,333 --> 00:05:15,973 Speaker 3: exciting two weeks. So it always is once it starts. 108 00:05:15,653 --> 00:05:17,173 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, once it kicks off and you know 109 00:05:17,733 --> 00:05:19,693 Speaker 2: it's past the opening cerem and he gets into competition 110 00:05:19,773 --> 00:05:21,093 Speaker 2: in earnest and the middles. 111 00:05:20,773 --> 00:05:22,333 Speaker 3: Of being out very exciting. 112 00:05:22,413 --> 00:05:24,413 Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, thank you so much. You take care and 113 00:05:24,453 --> 00:05:26,013 Speaker 2: we will catch your own doctor Brian Beatty. 114 00:05:26,853 --> 00:05:29,933 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, Listen live 115 00:05:30,053 --> 00:05:32,893 Speaker 1: to News Talks ed B from nine am Saturday, or 116 00:05:32,933 --> 00:05:34,853 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio