1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:21,013 Speaker 1: from News Talks at Bay. 3 00:00:19,893 --> 00:00:28,973 Speaker 2: We Compothe. It's Somebody's I'm Gonna Stop for You on 4 00:00:29,173 --> 00:00:30,413 Speaker 2: for your start of Water. 5 00:00:37,813 --> 00:00:43,053 Speaker 3: The song is Star of War. It's by Jenny Genny's 6 00:00:43,093 --> 00:00:46,253 Speaker 3: just released a brand new album called Ruby Yestelle Clifford 7 00:00:46,253 --> 00:00:49,733 Speaker 3: as our music review. She's been listening Hey Estelle, Hello. 8 00:00:50,173 --> 00:00:52,453 Speaker 3: I don't know we've ever done a Korean pop star 9 00:00:52,573 --> 00:00:53,333 Speaker 3: on our show before. 10 00:00:53,493 --> 00:00:56,253 Speaker 4: I don't think we have done pop because generally they're 11 00:00:56,573 --> 00:00:59,533 Speaker 4: a band as well. So black pink is what she 12 00:00:59,893 --> 00:01:04,813 Speaker 4: originates from. And yeah, k pop's a really interesting thing. 13 00:01:04,853 --> 00:01:09,573 Speaker 4: It's really high in a it's really like that these 14 00:01:09,693 --> 00:01:12,493 Speaker 4: you know, they've usually rehearsed for a million kajillion hours 15 00:01:12,493 --> 00:01:15,573 Speaker 4: before they do it live, and it's so slick and 16 00:01:15,653 --> 00:01:18,773 Speaker 4: polished and clever. So I'm interested to see how a 17 00:01:18,813 --> 00:01:21,733 Speaker 4: solo artist then brings that same kind of energy. 18 00:01:21,653 --> 00:01:22,373 Speaker 2: To what that is. 19 00:01:23,533 --> 00:01:26,933 Speaker 4: She's good, I have. I have thoroughly enjoyed this album. 20 00:01:27,813 --> 00:01:31,533 Speaker 4: I think that what has happened through all her training, 21 00:01:31,613 --> 00:01:33,613 Speaker 4: so she went to like this K pop school or 22 00:01:33,613 --> 00:01:36,613 Speaker 4: I shouldn't. I guess it's not just kop. It's like entertainment, 23 00:01:36,733 --> 00:01:38,693 Speaker 4: but they do like six years. Well, she did six 24 00:01:38,773 --> 00:01:41,933 Speaker 4: years worth of training before she even got into a band, 25 00:01:42,693 --> 00:01:45,213 Speaker 4: and she she seys in some of her interviews they 26 00:01:45,253 --> 00:01:48,173 Speaker 4: basically every month would have to learn a song and 27 00:01:48,253 --> 00:01:52,773 Speaker 4: a dance like some real choreography, just really honing their 28 00:01:52,813 --> 00:01:55,413 Speaker 4: skills to then be a live performance. So by the 29 00:01:55,413 --> 00:01:58,293 Speaker 4: time she then does a band thing and then gets 30 00:01:58,293 --> 00:02:00,933 Speaker 4: out to her solo stuff, I feel like she's really 31 00:02:01,653 --> 00:02:04,253 Speaker 4: this is quite a confident album, like she really knows 32 00:02:04,533 --> 00:02:06,333 Speaker 4: who she is and what it is that she wants 33 00:02:06,453 --> 00:02:09,653 Speaker 4: to be. K Pop's really cool too because it kind 34 00:02:09,693 --> 00:02:12,773 Speaker 4: of is genre blending, which I dare say a lot 35 00:02:12,773 --> 00:02:14,533 Speaker 4: of artists kind of naturally do too. 36 00:02:14,973 --> 00:02:16,493 Speaker 2: She leans quite a lot. 37 00:02:16,373 --> 00:02:18,653 Speaker 4: Into and I think it's quite good for her into 38 00:02:18,693 --> 00:02:22,293 Speaker 4: her R and B slash rap skills that she's got. 39 00:02:23,453 --> 00:02:25,373 Speaker 4: The rat skills came from the fact that she was 40 00:02:25,413 --> 00:02:27,733 Speaker 4: one of the only ones training who knew how to 41 00:02:28,653 --> 00:02:32,493 Speaker 4: fluently speak English, and lots of the songs they were 42 00:02:32,493 --> 00:02:35,653 Speaker 4: training and learning to copy like that's what they needed. 43 00:02:36,093 --> 00:02:38,613 Speaker 4: So it was like this accidental, Hey, you should do 44 00:02:38,733 --> 00:02:42,133 Speaker 4: more rap because you know what you're saying, which is 45 00:02:42,133 --> 00:02:45,373 Speaker 4: interesting because in K pop they obviously are bilingually. They 46 00:02:45,453 --> 00:02:50,173 Speaker 4: flick into Korean and English. In her solo album Here, 47 00:02:50,253 --> 00:02:53,173 Speaker 4: there's actually not much of that. She speaks mostly predominantly 48 00:02:53,213 --> 00:02:57,533 Speaker 4: English right throughout. But that thing for her that sort 49 00:02:57,533 --> 00:02:59,853 Speaker 4: of put her on a path actually has worked really 50 00:02:59,853 --> 00:03:02,453 Speaker 4: well because I think she's quite good at it, and 51 00:03:03,333 --> 00:03:06,213 Speaker 4: I would I would say in her career she will delve. 52 00:03:06,013 --> 00:03:07,973 Speaker 2: More and to that more. 53 00:03:08,493 --> 00:03:11,853 Speaker 4: Yeah, So heaps of elements of K pop are still there. 54 00:03:11,933 --> 00:03:15,853 Speaker 4: I like the the genre blending. She's done collabs with 55 00:03:15,933 --> 00:03:20,933 Speaker 4: big artists like Doughchi and du A Leaper. There's a 56 00:03:20,933 --> 00:03:23,333 Speaker 4: song on here called Zen and She's When you get 57 00:03:23,333 --> 00:03:25,893 Speaker 4: to that song, she says, that's the song where she 58 00:03:25,973 --> 00:03:29,213 Speaker 4: was like, after six months of work and putting songs together, 59 00:03:29,253 --> 00:03:31,493 Speaker 4: that's the one that she was like, Okay, this whole 60 00:03:31,493 --> 00:03:32,493 Speaker 4: album is actually. 61 00:03:32,213 --> 00:03:33,733 Speaker 2: Going to come together, and I get it. 62 00:03:35,533 --> 00:03:38,733 Speaker 4: She's the kind of person quite perfectionist, where right up 63 00:03:38,813 --> 00:03:41,333 Speaker 4: until I think two days before the album actually dropped, 64 00:03:41,773 --> 00:03:45,213 Speaker 4: she was still working on it and deciding what was 65 00:03:45,213 --> 00:03:46,053 Speaker 4: a final cut. 66 00:03:46,453 --> 00:03:50,893 Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, that's a perfectionist. Yeah, that kind of you 67 00:03:50,933 --> 00:03:52,453 Speaker 3: know from from the band culture. 68 00:03:53,333 --> 00:03:56,373 Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I think maybe that's also something that she'll 69 00:03:56,413 --> 00:03:58,173 Speaker 4: learn to like, eventually, you just have to sit with 70 00:03:58,173 --> 00:03:59,053 Speaker 4: it and be quite truthful. 71 00:03:59,093 --> 00:03:59,893 Speaker 2: And maybe that's the thing. 72 00:03:59,933 --> 00:04:02,333 Speaker 4: She has been quite truthful, and she probably feels a 73 00:04:02,333 --> 00:04:05,533 Speaker 4: bit vulnerable about that, so you know, you want to 74 00:04:05,533 --> 00:04:06,053 Speaker 4: be there right. 75 00:04:06,013 --> 00:04:08,293 Speaker 2: To all that, but eventually it just has to come 76 00:04:08,333 --> 00:04:08,773 Speaker 2: out right. 77 00:04:09,453 --> 00:04:12,413 Speaker 4: There's some real good, high energy R and B hip 78 00:04:12,413 --> 00:04:16,373 Speaker 4: hop sort of style. You can cut some shapes, do 79 00:04:16,453 --> 00:04:19,333 Speaker 4: some crumping, and then you can also chill out sort 80 00:04:19,373 --> 00:04:21,653 Speaker 4: of near the end of the album she gets into 81 00:04:21,653 --> 00:04:24,853 Speaker 4: some really beautiful, almost ballady sort of style. Is a 82 00:04:24,893 --> 00:04:28,493 Speaker 4: song called Twin that finishes off the album, and the 83 00:04:28,533 --> 00:04:30,653 Speaker 4: way she says the word twin, it's like this really 84 00:04:30,693 --> 00:04:34,853 Speaker 4: clever chime and ping over the music. 85 00:04:35,573 --> 00:04:37,333 Speaker 2: I just really like the production in. 86 00:04:37,253 --> 00:04:41,373 Speaker 4: It, and like that real beautiful, emotional kind of a 87 00:04:41,453 --> 00:04:45,253 Speaker 4: letter to somebody, almost like a sorry yeah and yeah. 88 00:04:45,293 --> 00:04:47,133 Speaker 4: So she's quite I feel like her lyrics have been 89 00:04:47,173 --> 00:04:49,173 Speaker 4: quite a motive, although there's also some where you're just like, 90 00:04:49,213 --> 00:04:51,653 Speaker 4: I don't know what the song's about. Do I need 91 00:04:51,693 --> 00:04:54,293 Speaker 4: to know? Doesn't matter, it's got a great beat. 92 00:04:54,413 --> 00:04:58,093 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I'm into that. 93 00:04:58,093 --> 00:04:59,933 Speaker 4: That has actually really surprised me. I think I really 94 00:05:00,013 --> 00:05:03,293 Speaker 4: enjoyed the energy. I've really enjoyed how confident she sounds 95 00:05:03,293 --> 00:05:06,853 Speaker 4: in it. It's packed with super catchy tracks like just 96 00:05:07,093 --> 00:05:09,573 Speaker 4: straight out the Gate You're in there like Jenny has 97 00:05:09,613 --> 00:05:12,733 Speaker 4: been a big single for her off this album. I 98 00:05:12,893 --> 00:05:16,493 Speaker 4: think Rihanna Lauren Hill is one of the people she's 99 00:05:16,533 --> 00:05:19,293 Speaker 4: inspired by. Sometimes she's been taken the mickey out of 100 00:05:19,293 --> 00:05:21,933 Speaker 4: because they reckon. She has that like I don't care 101 00:05:22,053 --> 00:05:24,173 Speaker 4: kind of thing about how Rihanna's a bit like that. 102 00:05:24,213 --> 00:05:27,693 Speaker 4: Sometimes she's not invested. But I think maybe you just 103 00:05:27,733 --> 00:05:29,813 Speaker 4: have to have a thing, a toughness about yourself. Times 104 00:05:30,053 --> 00:05:31,333 Speaker 4: people want to critique everything you do. 105 00:05:31,453 --> 00:05:34,253 Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, I've really enjoyed it. 106 00:05:34,253 --> 00:05:36,493 Speaker 4: I think it's it's just the energy that I kind 107 00:05:36,493 --> 00:05:38,973 Speaker 4: of needed right now. And I've been really interested to 108 00:05:39,013 --> 00:05:41,013 Speaker 4: see where she goes from being in that band for 109 00:05:41,133 --> 00:05:44,333 Speaker 4: him to now being a solo artist. I think she's 110 00:05:44,653 --> 00:05:47,613 Speaker 4: she's huge, and she's already Everybody wants a piece of her. 111 00:05:47,773 --> 00:05:50,253 Speaker 2: Everybody wants her to sell their product. That's part of 112 00:05:50,293 --> 00:05:50,933 Speaker 2: K pop, you know. 113 00:05:50,973 --> 00:05:54,533 Speaker 4: They're very influential in regards to fashion and anything they 114 00:05:54,573 --> 00:05:58,733 Speaker 4: touch sort of turns to gold or merchandising, slash making 115 00:05:58,773 --> 00:06:01,973 Speaker 4: money off it. So so what did you protect herself 116 00:06:01,973 --> 00:06:02,653 Speaker 4: in that a little bit? 117 00:06:02,813 --> 00:06:04,373 Speaker 3: Yeah, so what did you give it? 118 00:06:05,293 --> 00:06:07,293 Speaker 2: This is a huge surprise me, but I'm going to 119 00:06:07,333 --> 00:06:10,173 Speaker 2: give it a ten out of ten. Wow, yeah, good 120 00:06:10,213 --> 00:06:10,453 Speaker 2: for you. 121 00:06:10,813 --> 00:06:14,693 Speaker 4: Okay, cool, really great listen everything about it because she 122 00:06:14,853 --> 00:06:17,093 Speaker 4: has just really put her heart and soul into. 123 00:06:16,893 --> 00:06:18,893 Speaker 3: This superb Yeah. 124 00:06:18,893 --> 00:06:19,893 Speaker 2: I kindly enjoyed it. 125 00:06:19,933 --> 00:06:22,773 Speaker 3: Look, we're open minded, as you know, famously open minded 126 00:06:22,893 --> 00:06:25,373 Speaker 3: on Saturday Morning. So okay, we'll give a bit more 127 00:06:25,373 --> 00:06:26,373 Speaker 3: of a listen in a couple of minutes. 128 00:06:26,373 --> 00:06:27,093 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 129 00:06:27,333 --> 00:06:30,573 Speaker 3: Yeah, very good. So the album is Ruby Jenny and 130 00:06:30,613 --> 00:06:33,213 Speaker 3: it's Jenny I E with the is the artist, So 131 00:06:33,333 --> 00:06:35,453 Speaker 3: j E n N I E is the artist. You'll 132 00:06:35,453 --> 00:06:37,373 Speaker 3: probably see her everywhere. Now we'll have a bit more 133 00:06:37,373 --> 00:06:39,253 Speaker 3: of a listen in a couple of minutes. On News Talks, 134 00:06:39,253 --> 00:06:41,413 Speaker 3: he'd be but ten out of tennist now reckons it's 135 00:06:41,413 --> 00:06:44,093 Speaker 3: worth which is saying something indeed. Right now, it's nine 136 00:06:44,133 --> 00:06:45,053 Speaker 3: to twelve. 137 00:06:46,173 --> 00:06:49,293 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. Listen live 138 00:06:49,373 --> 00:06:52,173 Speaker 1: to News Talks he'd be from nine am Saturday, or 139 00:06:52,253 --> 00:06:54,173 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.