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Speaker 2: Hell are you great New Zealanders And welcome to mattain

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Speaker 2: Tyler Afternoons podcast for Friday, the sixth of December. Fantastic

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Speaker 2: discussion today about crypto. We went deep into that. We

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Speaker 2: announced the new Zealander of the week later on in

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Speaker 2: the show. Keep listening for that. It'll blow your mind.

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Speaker 2: Who wins topical tunes. We had some good supermarket chat,

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Speaker 2: trolly self service checkouts, alcohol the Big Big I got

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Speaker 2: testy with the caller who questioned my moral, my moral,

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Speaker 2: my moral stance on alcohol and yeah, so great show.

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Speaker 2: Merry Christmas and blessed, bless blessed and give them a

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Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and Tyler

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Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons new for twenty twenty four News talk S EDB.

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Speaker 3: Helload do you and happy Friday afternoon. You're listening to

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Speaker 3: Matt and Tyler. We're with you at four pm.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and down the Base Reserve they're on lunch England

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Speaker 2: making it through to one hundred and twenty four for

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Speaker 2: four after New Zealand chose to field Henry's got two

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Speaker 2: and Smith has got to including a beautiful clean bowl

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Speaker 2: from Henry on Crawley. But I'm not happy. I'm not happy,

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Speaker 2: Tyler happy everyone, because it's one hundred and one hundred

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Speaker 2: and twenty four for four. We had them at four,

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Speaker 2: down at seventy, and it's just creeping away for us.

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Speaker 2: We've got Brock, that dirty broad. He's got a fifty

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Speaker 2: already when you know what he did to us down

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Speaker 2: at Hagley Oval. So more wickets after lunch please, New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, we'll keep you updated on that as the

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Speaker 3: afternoon goes on.

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Speaker 2: After three o'clock out in New Zealand. Of the week.

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Speaker 2: We do this every week on Matt and Tyler afternoons.

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Speaker 2: We find someone or something worthy of the award, and

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Speaker 2: I think you're going to be very very happy with

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Speaker 2: who or what wins this week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And also we do as we do

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Speaker 3: every Friday topical tune.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, me and Tyler, Tyler and I are

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Speaker 2: they gonna come before the text come through? Nine two?

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Speaker 2: Tyler and I choose a song and the best first

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Speaker 2: of three votes on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty wins.

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Speaker 2: It's currently six to two to me in the competition,

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Speaker 2: which means we've been doing the show for two months.

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Speaker 3: O man, time flies when you're having fun. That's after

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Speaker 3: three thirty. After two o'clock, bitcoin has reached new heights.

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Speaker 3: You would have seen this top in one hundred thousand

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Speaker 3: dollars USD per bitcoin, which is about one hundred and

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Speaker 3: back of the reelection of Donald Trump. But the question

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Speaker 3: we want to put you after two o'clock is this

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Speaker 3: going to end in tears for most of the people

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Speaker 3: that buy into bitcoin and crypto?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you've been in there before, haven't you, Tyler,

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Speaker 2: And you've lost a bit of money yep entered in

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Speaker 2: tea is for me. I never got on board on bitcoin,

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Speaker 2: and I've always sort of been on an emotional rollercoaster ride.

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Speaker 2: I'm one of those people that enjoys when it's down

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Speaker 2: because I was never in you know, I was kind

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Speaker 2: how it worked with the money, never got on missed

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Speaker 2: the train, but it's the train well and truly left

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Speaker 2: the station now. So if you buy now, are you

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Speaker 2: going to make outsized profits or do you need to

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Speaker 2: wait till it crashes again before you buy? Because it

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Speaker 2: So if it has a massive harving or something, is

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Speaker 3: Yeah? And what do you do with bitcoin? Apart from

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Speaker 3: buying weapons? And you know some overseas seas country you're

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Speaker 3: doing you illegitimate things with it. I don't understand what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well we'll look into that. Hey, just a quick

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Speaker 2: two Lynn. Thank you for your text update on Tyler's

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Speaker 2: hot air. Please, how did you go last night? Because

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're going to run so that situation. I

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Speaker 2: know we need to move on from this, but you're

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Speaker 2: Well so, but last night you and your lovely partner

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Speaker 3: And it was beautiful A great night's sleep and the loundes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what are we talking about now, though, Tyler.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about what is called a brown onion hack.

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Speaker 3: So one shopper who spoke to media but didn't give

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Speaker 3: hat a check of self checkout, excuse me as brown

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Speaker 3: doing the rounds on TikTok and Instagram, and effectively, when

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Speaker 3: them through the South checkout in a brown paper bag instead,

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Speaker 3: instead of selecting oranges, you just select brown onions because

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Speaker 3: brown onions are a dollar forty nine kiler.

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Speaker 2: So you and TikTok are saying it's the hack. I'm

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Speaker 2: saying that's theft. Well, that's fraud and theft. You're lying

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Speaker 2: to get something for cheaper. You're saying that you're getting

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Speaker 2: some expensive, delicious oranges, saying they're brown onions and getting

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Speaker 2: them cheaper. That's not a hack, that's theft.

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Speaker 3: We can agree on that fact. That is absolutely theft.

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Speaker 3: But here's my That hack has been going for a

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Speaker 2: You used to back in the day, when you'd write

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Speaker 2: you could write a different code on it and pay less.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And that was plausible deniability that if you were

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Speaker 3: and you say, oh, sorry, I wrote the code down wrong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you go, I just don't know the difference

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Speaker 2: But you've got a theory on this, don't you.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's my question. And I'm not saying that any

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Speaker 3: But I guarantee that supermarkets when they put in these

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Speaker 3: That was part of their calculations reducing the wages cost.

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Speaker 3: Then they save money putting in these self service checkouts,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that doesn't make it morally okay to do it.

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Speaker 2: So what you're saying is because they don't have eyes

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Speaker 3: I'm saying they did the calculations and they knew. I'm

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Speaker 3: not saying it's right, but they did the calculations. And

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Speaker 3: if they wanted to go back to employing staff at

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Speaker 2: Okay, one hundred and eighty ten eighty Do they deserve it?

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Speaker 2: I would say this. And I've got a slightly nuanced

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Speaker 2: think of that song why the Clash or Lost in

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Speaker 2: the Supermarket? I think, and companies they reduce friction to

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Speaker 2: make more money, right yep, and so, and that always

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Speaker 2: And I also like the idea that there's these jobs

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Speaker 2: at a checkout, and you take those out, then what

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Speaker 2: is they're getting up and what do they do to

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Speaker 2: fund their way through studies if they can't work at checkout?

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Speaker 2: So I hit the checkout to try and keep check

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Speaker 2: out still going. And as I said recently, I went

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Speaker 3: What if it's crazy busy in the supermarket and it

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Speaker 3: at the checkout that's got an actual human there, Surely

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Speaker 3: at that point you'd sneak through the self service checkout

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Speaker 2: Wow, is it any quicker?

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Speaker 3: Well, good question.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it is. I don't think it's any quicker.

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Speaker 3: I used to think it was until I mean, most

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Speaker 2: Service has got a queue at my supermarket right down

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Speaker 2: the thing. You don't even know where the que starts.

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Speaker 2: You can't even get through down there to get to

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Speaker 2: your next aisle because theres so many people quelling for

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Speaker 2: the self service. I just slide it up with my trolley,

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Speaker 2: have a great old time chatting to the person that's

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Speaker 2: beeping me through. And you know, I like enjoying the

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Speaker 2: process of packing the bags together with the bagpacker. It's

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Speaker 2: a wholesome experience. We need to We need to kick that.

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Speaker 2: Kick that at our period, lose that at our pai,

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Speaker 2: all that human interaction.

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Speaker 3: Oh on one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to call. Have we gone crazy on the self service

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Speaker 3: checkouts which is leading to more thefts and just bad

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Speaker 3: behavior in the supermarket? Do we need more.

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Speaker 2: Human and do you agree with Tyler that the supermarkets

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Speaker 2: deserve to get things stolen off them because they're running

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Speaker 3: Nine two words in my mouth. It is a quarter

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. That and Tyler Adams Afternoons you for

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Speaker 3: New Talks, head Peak afternoon. We're just talking about this

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Speaker 3: you know how wrong there. Yeah, plenty of teas coming

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Speaker 3: through on the self service checkouts. It's led to a

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Speaker 3: It definitely is theft.

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Speaker 2: But hey, just because you could equally say I've got

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Speaker 2: It's a hack. No, that's theft.

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Speaker 3: Well, they did a study in the UK when these

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Speaker 3: People were twenty one times more likely to sneak past

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, and you're saying that the supermarkets deserve it

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Speaker 2: because they've got rid of they're not paying someone to

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Speaker 2: That's what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying they deserve it. I'm saying that they

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Speaker 2: You're saying something adjacent to eighty. What do you think

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Speaker 2: about this? Now, here's a text here. Knowing people in

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Speaker 2: management at both Kmart and Viarious supermarkets, they are prepared

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Speaker 2: for theft at self checkouts because it outweighs the cost

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Speaker 3: That's exactly my point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that doesn't make it right. No, No, but humans,

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Speaker 2: just just because you've calculated people's badness until your equi

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Speaker 2: agents doesn't make it make it right. This person here

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Speaker 2: on nine two nine to two agrees with me. Stop

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Speaker 2: using self checkouts. You are the cause of people losing

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Speaker 2: their jobs. Gamart, Warehouse, Bunning, Supermarkets no longer employing students,

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Speaker 2: and the thieves like Brien, the thieves like brown Onions

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Speaker 2: increase the cost to cover the fraud. Yeah, because those costs,

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Speaker 2: then that they cover them at your expense. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: Well, just quickly before we go to Linda, I think

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Speaker 3: different reasons. I think that they increase thefts. You say

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Speaker 3: that you just love humans so much.

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Speaker 2: I just think the more human contact we can have

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Speaker 3: Yep, nicely said Linda. How do you feel about this

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it is theft. I've actually on more

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Speaker 6: more than one with young children. Those young children head

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Speaker 6: directly for the pick and MCS lollies and just start

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Speaker 2: And what and does the mum see this happening.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to describe that as poor parents. That is,

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Speaker 2: that's teaching someone bad lessons in life.

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Speaker 6: What are they teaching the children? And on the self service,

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Speaker 6: I know that when you actually do get some items

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Speaker 6: I actually do regularly because if there's a cheap one

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Speaker 6: when if I go through self service checkout, it requires authorization.

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Speaker 6: Ah right, So they may you may find that because

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Speaker 6: you may find that they may start needing authorization on

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Speaker 6: self checkout for brown onions.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The whole the self checkout thing really annoys me as well,

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Speaker 2: because although this happens at other checkout, I can't believe

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Speaker 2: as if someone that works at account it can't work

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Speaker 3: Where it doesn't know that's weird.

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Speaker 2: But at the self service. The other day, I had

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Speaker 2: my energy drinks, and they wouldn't sell it to me

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Speaker 2: without someone registering me energy drink cheap, it's too far.

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Speaker 6: That is also required so that the staff on that

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Speaker 2: Have some trust in humanity though. Yeah, that whole standing there.

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Speaker 2: When you're really busy and you've gone through the checkout

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Speaker 2: and you're waiting for ages, well whoever, the authorized person

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Speaker 2: guy's dangerously old. That's fine, and he can drink and

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Speaker 2: let me go. So I think everyone in the entire

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Speaker 3: Without a word of a lie. They id'd me about

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Speaker 3: there's no alcohol in this. I said, no, it's his

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Speaker 3: just to confirm.

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Speaker 2: I was at a thing that had a four drink

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Speaker 2: more than four drinks. And I was buying four waters

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Speaker 3: News Talk ZEDB. We're talking about self service checkouts. This

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Speaker 3: is on the back of the brown Onion hack. That's

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Speaker 3: doing the rounds on social media where people put through

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Speaker 3: their veggies and fruit, expensive veggiant fruit through the self

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Speaker 3: are cheap.

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Speaker 2: And the terrible thing about it, as they're calling it

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Speaker 2: a life hack, a technical life hack, it's theft.

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Speaker 3: That is an unethical life hack.

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Speaker 2: I've got a life hack when you're working in a business,

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Speaker 2: just steal things and take them home. It's not a

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Speaker 2: life hack, it's theft.

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Speaker 3: Term How are you this afternoon, gentlemen.

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Speaker 9: I've got a legitimate uh legal hats for the supermarkets

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Speaker 9: gates employment and I do it all the time, and

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Speaker 9: I think stillings should do it. That's whenever you put

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Speaker 9: your trolley, don't return it to the thing, just leave

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Speaker 9: them then return it. The guy's are pitching the youth.

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Speaker 2: What are you right?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, keep going mate, we just just watched it

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Speaker 3: for a bat carry on.

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Speaker 9: Then retrieve their own trollig trolley out. Keep those guys employed.

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Speaker 9: That often people let's probably would find employment difficult. And

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Speaker 9: it doesn't cost.

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Speaker 1: You a thing.

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Speaker 2: You've said off off, I tell you what. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: about this a bit later on, honestly, which is the

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Speaker 2: shopping trolley theory on being a good human or not.

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Speaker 2: But I've never heard your opinion on it, Tim, because

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Speaker 2: I really want to talk about this. But the idea

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Speaker 2: that you just leave them leave them around to keep someone.

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Speaker 5: Employed, absolutely it creates a job.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh, thank you for that, Tim.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we're looking forward to this, this trolley theory.

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Speaker 3: I think I have heard this before, but we'll mention

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the shopping trolley theory, which basically is away where

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Speaker 2: And yeah, we'll get into that after the news.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, headlights coming up. It is bang on one point.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylian. We have been talking about

457
00:21:15,773 --> 00:21:18,813
Speaker 3: self service checkouts, but we won't transition it slightly.

458
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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, well we keep talking about that and talk

459
00:21:20,933 --> 00:21:23,813
Speaker 2: about something else. So Tim was saying before, with shopping trolleys,

460
00:21:23,813 --> 00:21:27,013
Speaker 2: he doesn't return them when he's at the supermarket because

461
00:21:27,053 --> 00:21:29,533
Speaker 2: he wants to keep people employed. And there's a few

462
00:21:29,533 --> 00:21:31,813
Speaker 2: people that come through a nine two ninety two pointing

463
00:21:31,853 --> 00:21:34,653
Speaker 2: out the floor in his logic there as this Texas says,

464
00:21:34,893 --> 00:21:36,613
Speaker 2: throw your rubbish out the window. It creates a job

465
00:21:36,613 --> 00:21:39,293
Speaker 2: for person people. I mean, you could start assaulting people

466
00:21:39,333 --> 00:21:42,253
Speaker 2: in the street because it creates a job for police officers,

467
00:21:42,293 --> 00:21:45,413
Speaker 2: smashing windows because it creates job for glaziers.

468
00:21:45,573 --> 00:21:48,413
Speaker 3: Crash your car panel be dos need working and they

469
00:21:48,453 --> 00:21:49,533
Speaker 3: need to feed their families.

470
00:21:51,293 --> 00:21:54,133
Speaker 2: There's a logic floor there, But I just thought i'd

471
00:21:54,173 --> 00:21:58,653
Speaker 2: share the shopping trolley theory with everyone. There's a claim

472
00:21:58,693 --> 00:22:01,013
Speaker 2: that the shopping cart is the ultimate litmus test for

473
00:22:01,013 --> 00:22:03,813
Speaker 2: whether a person is capable of self governing and is

474
00:22:03,813 --> 00:22:06,493
Speaker 2: a good person. Here we go to return the shopping

475
00:22:06,533 --> 00:22:08,933
Speaker 2: cart is an easy, convenient task and one which we

476
00:22:09,053 --> 00:22:11,453
Speaker 2: all recognize is correct, and the appropriate thing to do

477
00:22:11,773 --> 00:22:14,213
Speaker 2: to return a shopping cart is objectively right. There is

478
00:22:14,213 --> 00:22:16,853
Speaker 2: no situation other than dire emergencies, in which a person

479
00:22:17,053 --> 00:22:20,052
Speaker 2: is not able to return the shopping cart. Simultaneously, it

480
00:22:20,093 --> 00:22:22,813
Speaker 2: is not illegal to abandon your shopping cart. Therefore, the

481
00:22:22,853 --> 00:22:25,893
Speaker 2: shopping cart presents itself as the apex example of whether

482
00:22:25,933 --> 00:22:28,493
Speaker 2: a person will do it's right, whether being forced to

483
00:22:28,733 --> 00:22:31,293
Speaker 2: or not. No one will punish you for not returning

484
00:22:31,333 --> 00:22:34,052
Speaker 2: the shopping cart. No one will find you for not

485
00:22:34,213 --> 00:22:37,053
Speaker 2: returning the shopping cart. You gain nothing from returning the

486
00:22:37,053 --> 00:22:39,773
Speaker 2: shopping cart. But you must return the shopping cart out

487
00:22:39,813 --> 00:22:41,573
Speaker 2: of the goodness of your heart. You must return the

488
00:22:41,573 --> 00:22:43,573
Speaker 2: shopping cart because it is the right thing to do,

489
00:22:43,653 --> 00:22:45,933
Speaker 2: because it is correct. A person who is unable to

490
00:22:45,933 --> 00:22:48,333
Speaker 2: do this is no better than an animal. The shopping

491
00:22:48,373 --> 00:22:50,973
Speaker 2: cart is what determines whether a person is good or

492
00:22:51,013 --> 00:22:53,293
Speaker 2: a good or bad member of society. That is the

493
00:22:53,293 --> 00:22:54,213
Speaker 2: shopping cart theory.

494
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Speaker 3: What's a great theory?

495
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Speaker 2: What do you think about that? Eight hundred and eighty

496
00:22:57,813 --> 00:23:00,133
Speaker 2: ten eighty I always return the shopping cart.

497
00:23:00,293 --> 00:23:02,213
Speaker 3: I've got some fish carry on, Yeah.

498
00:23:02,013 --> 00:23:04,893
Speaker 2: I always. But here's my hack for supermarkets. It's not

499
00:23:04,933 --> 00:23:08,812
Speaker 2: stealing like you're supporting with the brown onions tyler. Is

500
00:23:08,853 --> 00:23:11,093
Speaker 2: that when you go to the supermarket, you don't park

501
00:23:11,213 --> 00:23:15,293
Speaker 2: closest to the entrance. You park closest to the trolley return.

502
00:23:15,773 --> 00:23:18,653
Speaker 2: So you park there right beside whether you're going to

503
00:23:18,933 --> 00:23:22,973
Speaker 2: return the trolley, then unload your shopping into the car,

504
00:23:23,093 --> 00:23:24,893
Speaker 2: and then it's very easy to return the trolley.

505
00:23:24,973 --> 00:23:26,813
Speaker 3: That's an ethical hack, that is a good hack. So

506
00:23:26,933 --> 00:23:29,453
Speaker 3: here's my fish shock. And I don't always do this

507
00:23:29,493 --> 00:23:31,773
Speaker 3: because it can be particularly hard that I always return

508
00:23:31,853 --> 00:23:34,813
Speaker 3: the trolley to a trolley bay. But there's two sizes

509
00:23:34,893 --> 00:23:37,093
Speaker 3: of trolley right at the supermarket. Quite often you get

510
00:23:37,093 --> 00:23:39,293
Speaker 3: the smaller one, then you get the bigger one. And

511
00:23:39,533 --> 00:23:42,293
Speaker 3: the fact that they've been mixed up by various people

512
00:23:42,293 --> 00:23:44,253
Speaker 3: that thought they were doing the right thing. That's a

513
00:23:44,373 --> 00:23:46,493
Speaker 3: pain in the ass for the poor trolley boy or

514
00:23:46,533 --> 00:23:49,572
Speaker 3: girl that's got to grab the different sized trolleys and

515
00:23:49,573 --> 00:23:51,733
Speaker 3: put them in the right place, you know what I'm saying.

516
00:23:51,813 --> 00:23:53,173
Speaker 3: So you go to the trolley bay, you've got the

517
00:23:53,173 --> 00:23:56,093
Speaker 3: smaller trolley that can only fit sort of a small

518
00:23:56,133 --> 00:23:58,413
Speaker 3: amount of groceries, and then you get the big bad

519
00:23:58,453 --> 00:24:01,333
Speaker 3: boy that's for the family shop. Yep, they are mixed up.

520
00:24:01,413 --> 00:24:02,893
Speaker 3: So the trolley person.

521
00:24:02,613 --> 00:24:05,053
Speaker 2: Well, that's because someone's made a mistake. Yeah, some once

522
00:24:05,093 --> 00:24:08,292
Speaker 2: makes them up. That doesn't take away from the inherent

523
00:24:08,533 --> 00:24:09,333
Speaker 2: good of returning it.

524
00:24:09,533 --> 00:24:12,613
Speaker 3: But at that point, when I turn up with my trolley,

525
00:24:12,733 --> 00:24:15,813
Speaker 3: should I take it upon myself to try and rearrange them.

526
00:24:15,813 --> 00:24:18,453
Speaker 3: It's the right order, out of the goodness of my heart,

527
00:24:18,493 --> 00:24:19,613
Speaker 3: because that's the right thing to do.

528
00:24:19,733 --> 00:24:22,213
Speaker 2: You'd be freaking mother Teresa if you do that, if

529
00:24:22,253 --> 00:24:24,373
Speaker 2: you took them all out and arrange them. Either that

530
00:24:24,453 --> 00:24:26,333
Speaker 2: if you've got like some kind of mental disorder where

531
00:24:26,333 --> 00:24:27,213
Speaker 2: you have to do that kind of thing.

532
00:24:27,493 --> 00:24:29,532
Speaker 3: If you don't put your trolley back, give us a

533
00:24:29,573 --> 00:24:31,213
Speaker 3: bell on O E one hundred and eighty ten eighty

534
00:24:31,253 --> 00:24:33,413
Speaker 3: and tell us why John, how are you?

535
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Speaker 10: Yeah, you guys just picked up on what you're saying

536
00:24:37,533 --> 00:24:41,733
Speaker 10: before about being aged, checked buying ginger bear and checked

537
00:24:41,733 --> 00:24:44,293
Speaker 10: for buying more than four orders. As you know, the

538
00:24:44,373 --> 00:24:48,013
Speaker 10: new legislation has just come in restricting supermarkets and sewing

539
00:24:48,053 --> 00:24:49,733
Speaker 10: bear and wine after nine pm.

540
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Speaker 11: In the evening.

541
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Speaker 10: Yeah, our local train the supermarket is implementing that and

542
00:24:54,893 --> 00:24:58,253
Speaker 10: including zero alcohol bears and zero alcohol wines.

543
00:24:58,733 --> 00:25:03,493
Speaker 2: And that was stupid. That is that is the stupidest thing.

544
00:25:03,933 --> 00:25:06,733
Speaker 2: This is, this is something make it.

545
00:25:07,053 --> 00:25:08,533
Speaker 10: I don't think I can think I was the get

546
00:25:08,573 --> 00:25:10,813
Speaker 10: easier for their check out up right, And there's no

547
00:25:10,813 --> 00:25:13,773
Speaker 10: no decision making me having made. It's just zero wine,

548
00:25:13,893 --> 00:25:14,413
Speaker 10: zero beer.

549
00:25:14,573 --> 00:25:19,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there there's absolutely no difference between a zero

550
00:25:20,053 --> 00:25:23,853
Speaker 2: alcohol beer and a fizzy drink. Yeah that, yeah, that's

551
00:25:23,893 --> 00:25:27,893
Speaker 2: exactly that's that's insanity. And things like that hurt my head.

552
00:25:28,613 --> 00:25:31,893
Speaker 2: I'm like, click, please, please please.

553
00:25:32,133 --> 00:25:33,973
Speaker 10: The only reason I can think of is that they

554
00:25:34,013 --> 00:25:35,333
Speaker 10: just make it easier for this stuff.

555
00:25:35,533 --> 00:25:37,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have. There'll be a reason. Actually, if someone

556
00:25:37,613 --> 00:25:40,293
Speaker 2: knows the reason eight hundred and eighty teen eighty, I'll

557
00:25:40,293 --> 00:25:43,933
Speaker 2: bend to hear. Yeah, because there will be a administrative

558
00:25:43,973 --> 00:25:47,693
Speaker 2: reason why that is, because otherwise if there isn't thing,

559
00:25:47,733 --> 00:25:50,773
Speaker 2: it can But otherwise it's completely insane.

560
00:25:50,413 --> 00:25:52,533
Speaker 3: And you can't argue the fact because quite often they're

561
00:25:52,573 --> 00:25:54,653
Speaker 3: eighteen nineteen twenty right, And you don't want to be

562
00:25:54,693 --> 00:25:56,253
Speaker 3: that guy that says, hey, can I just show you

563
00:25:56,333 --> 00:25:58,413
Speaker 3: there's no alcohol in here? You don't need to do this.

564
00:25:58,693 --> 00:26:01,973
Speaker 3: You've just got to go through that plava and wait

565
00:26:02,173 --> 00:26:05,093
Speaker 3: while the manager, who's busy enough comes over and says, yet,

566
00:26:05,053 --> 00:26:06,333
Speaker 3: it's all good, this on it.

567
00:26:07,013 --> 00:26:09,333
Speaker 2: But the whole not being in all alcoh after nine

568
00:26:09,373 --> 00:26:12,373
Speaker 2: o'clock at supermarkets annoys me anyway. So if I'm if

569
00:26:12,413 --> 00:26:15,453
Speaker 2: I'm working late and going home and I want to

570
00:26:15,573 --> 00:26:17,893
Speaker 2: buy a bottle of wine to have you know, a

571
00:26:17,973 --> 00:26:20,413
Speaker 2: drink while I'm watching some sport or something. Yeah, why

572
00:26:20,453 --> 00:26:23,773
Speaker 2: should I get passed just because there's some imaginary people

573
00:26:23,813 --> 00:26:26,853
Speaker 2: out there that are going into supermarkets and abusing it? Yeah,

574
00:26:26,893 --> 00:26:27,333
Speaker 2: I mean.

575
00:26:27,653 --> 00:26:30,413
Speaker 10: I think think what you've got is the age old

576
00:26:30,413 --> 00:26:33,133
Speaker 10: thing of the majority suffering at the because of the

577
00:26:33,173 --> 00:26:34,293
Speaker 10: hands of a few idiots.

578
00:26:34,373 --> 00:26:36,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just that. That's I think that's a disgusting

579
00:26:36,813 --> 00:26:39,613
Speaker 2: lord to judge me along with some people that can't

580
00:26:39,613 --> 00:26:40,293
Speaker 2: be trusted anyway.

581
00:26:41,773 --> 00:26:46,333
Speaker 3: Markets are a stressful place, aren't they? Self service checkout places, alcohol, malarkey,

582
00:26:46,413 --> 00:26:48,413
Speaker 3: and trolley's. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

583
00:26:48,453 --> 00:26:50,133
Speaker 3: the number of cores some idiots.

584
00:26:49,733 --> 00:26:52,133
Speaker 2: Texted nineteen nine two zero alcohol beers are all about

585
00:26:52,173 --> 00:26:54,653
Speaker 2: the liquor licensing, do your homo? Boys? Well, I shouldn't

586
00:26:54,653 --> 00:26:56,053
Speaker 2: have read that out as the stupid ast text I've

587
00:26:56,053 --> 00:26:57,253
Speaker 2: ever been sent.

588
00:26:57,373 --> 00:26:57,893
Speaker 3: What does that mean?

589
00:26:58,053 --> 00:27:00,133
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean anything. It's like, zero alcohol beers are

590
00:27:00,133 --> 00:27:03,213
Speaker 2: all about the liquor of licensing. Boys, So then something

591
00:27:03,293 --> 00:27:05,013
Speaker 2: stupid because there's a stupid rule.

592
00:27:05,373 --> 00:27:07,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, if it's got no alcohol, isn't it?

593
00:27:07,053 --> 00:27:09,253
Speaker 2: What's the problem. It's too much of a Friday to

594
00:27:09,293 --> 00:27:11,893
Speaker 2: receive a text that done.

595
00:27:12,213 --> 00:27:15,493
Speaker 3: You've got good text descent. It is twenty one, twenty

596
00:27:15,573 --> 00:27:15,893
Speaker 3: to two.

597
00:27:17,333 --> 00:27:20,532
Speaker 1: You want your new home of afternoon tour mad Heathen

598
00:27:20,693 --> 00:27:24,213
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams Afternoon call, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

599
00:27:24,453 --> 00:27:25,453
Speaker 1: News talks be.

600
00:27:26,253 --> 00:27:29,493
Speaker 3: News talks there be. It is eighteen to two, Pete.

601
00:27:29,973 --> 00:27:33,093
Speaker 3: You want to have a chat about the self service checkouts?

602
00:27:33,573 --> 00:27:37,973
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, yeah, yeah, we're got I pick

603
00:27:38,053 --> 00:27:40,093
Speaker 12: on both both of the topics. And basic self service

604
00:27:40,133 --> 00:27:42,413
Speaker 12: checkout when it first came in, I'm from your Plymouth here.

605
00:27:43,413 --> 00:27:46,293
Speaker 12: You go to any other store to get seen me

606
00:27:46,333 --> 00:27:48,733
Speaker 12: as a chemist or a shoe shop, whatever you wants

607
00:27:48,773 --> 00:27:49,973
Speaker 12: have people serving you that year.

608
00:27:50,373 --> 00:27:52,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, So why do you.

609
00:27:52,533 --> 00:27:55,093
Speaker 12: Think the supermarket should be different from them? You were

610
00:27:55,093 --> 00:27:57,093
Speaker 12: going there Without them, they wouldn't have a business, or

611
00:27:57,093 --> 00:28:00,413
Speaker 12: the owner of that supermarket whatever. So I reckon it's disgusting.

612
00:28:00,973 --> 00:28:04,333
Speaker 12: You have the option whether you want to self deive,

613
00:28:04,493 --> 00:28:08,613
Speaker 12: that's your right. But then if I truly full of

614
00:28:08,613 --> 00:28:10,493
Speaker 12: grocery when at first they started bringing here in New

615
00:28:10,533 --> 00:28:15,373
Speaker 12: Plymouth and there's one lady, there's nobody at the checkouts,

616
00:28:15,813 --> 00:28:19,173
Speaker 12: and there's one lady at the self serving there, and

617
00:28:19,453 --> 00:28:21,453
Speaker 12: I don't I had a bit of money in that trolley,

618
00:28:21,613 --> 00:28:24,773
Speaker 12: and I actually protested about it. What I did was,

619
00:28:24,853 --> 00:28:26,933
Speaker 12: I said, well, why aren't you just you only you're

620
00:28:26,933 --> 00:28:30,093
Speaker 12: the only one here that's coming on towards closing time,

621
00:28:30,733 --> 00:28:32,893
Speaker 12: And I said, why aren't you at the checkout?

622
00:28:33,013 --> 00:28:33,213
Speaker 5: You know?

623
00:28:33,373 --> 00:28:35,052
Speaker 12: And you wouldn't. They wouldn't have to, she wouldn't even

624
00:28:35,093 --> 00:28:36,893
Speaker 12: have to be at the self serving. She should have

625
00:28:36,973 --> 00:28:39,173
Speaker 12: just served me like a normal customer. That's what I did.

626
00:28:39,213 --> 00:28:40,653
Speaker 12: I just left the trolley and walked out.

627
00:28:41,933 --> 00:28:44,293
Speaker 3: How did they respond to that beat? That's a bold move.

628
00:28:44,213 --> 00:28:47,333
Speaker 12: Well, I said, it's not smrong, I said the lad

629
00:28:47,493 --> 00:28:49,173
Speaker 12: I look picking on you. You've got a job to do,

630
00:28:49,293 --> 00:28:51,973
Speaker 12: but it's very rude here at the self service. You've

631
00:28:51,973 --> 00:28:55,413
Speaker 12: got a whole trolley full of groceries pretty much, and

632
00:28:55,453 --> 00:28:57,653
Speaker 12: you could be serving me at the counter like a

633
00:28:57,733 --> 00:28:58,893
Speaker 12: normal you normally do.

634
00:28:58,973 --> 00:28:59,653
Speaker 5: I think it's wrong.

635
00:28:59,693 --> 00:29:02,653
Speaker 12: So the principles, everyone will walk there anyway and end

636
00:29:02,733 --> 00:29:04,253
Speaker 12: up going to the media about I got in the

637
00:29:04,293 --> 00:29:06,813
Speaker 12: mid middle midweek here as well. I try protest. It

638
00:29:06,893 --> 00:29:11,053
Speaker 12: made it quite clear that you should actually be serving

639
00:29:11,493 --> 00:29:13,733
Speaker 12: the sort of supermarkets. I don't feel sorry for them.

640
00:29:13,733 --> 00:29:16,773
Speaker 12: I don't encourage fift I don't steal, so they sort

641
00:29:16,773 --> 00:29:19,413
Speaker 12: of left themselves open for this to happen. There's a

642
00:29:19,453 --> 00:29:21,013
Speaker 12: lot of poor people out there. What are they there

643
00:29:21,013 --> 00:29:23,773
Speaker 12: there to go to supermarkets? So you're sorry for them,

644
00:29:23,973 --> 00:29:26,053
Speaker 12: but I do believe also in Europe now I've actually

645
00:29:26,053 --> 00:29:28,173
Speaker 12: taking them out some of the supermarkets. They found out

646
00:29:28,173 --> 00:29:30,853
Speaker 12: they're losing too much for the amount they try to save,

647
00:29:30,933 --> 00:29:34,013
Speaker 12: and wages cost them more at the till what they're

648
00:29:34,053 --> 00:29:36,053
Speaker 12: gaining by not paying someone at the till.

649
00:29:36,333 --> 00:29:36,453
Speaker 13: Ye.

650
00:29:36,693 --> 00:29:40,173
Speaker 2: Yes, I think there was this news story not so

651
00:29:40,173 --> 00:29:41,893
Speaker 2: long ago. I think it was a British chain of

652
00:29:41,893 --> 00:29:45,573
Speaker 2: supermarkets has gone as removed all of their self service

653
00:29:45,853 --> 00:29:48,133
Speaker 2: because they came to the conclusion that it was wasn't

654
00:29:48,133 --> 00:29:52,093
Speaker 2: outful and you know, it wasn't forming brand loyalty, and

655
00:29:52,453 --> 00:29:54,333
Speaker 2: also there was just too much problem. So there might

656
00:29:54,333 --> 00:29:56,493
Speaker 2: be a movement in the future away from them because

657
00:29:56,893 --> 00:29:59,613
Speaker 2: personally I hate them. I'll always go through the check

658
00:29:59,613 --> 00:30:00,733
Speaker 2: and I want to talk to I want to talk

659
00:30:00,733 --> 00:30:01,693
Speaker 2: to someone, Yeah.

660
00:30:01,693 --> 00:30:04,133
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, then you give me you get them a

661
00:30:04,133 --> 00:30:07,493
Speaker 12: matter the super marks. They're doing it right, they're doing

662
00:30:07,493 --> 00:30:09,293
Speaker 12: it right. They're not as on poverty. Other you don't

663
00:30:09,293 --> 00:30:12,053
Speaker 12: see many supermarkets going down to your going to receivership

664
00:30:12,093 --> 00:30:13,533
Speaker 12: deals they do, and they'd always make it up the

665
00:30:13,573 --> 00:30:16,093
Speaker 12: only get on averages they reckon. They about listen to

666
00:30:16,173 --> 00:30:17,573
Speaker 12: talk about show all the time. They're reckon to be

667
00:30:17,573 --> 00:30:19,013
Speaker 12: out three or four of us. And that's the actual

668
00:30:19,373 --> 00:30:21,973
Speaker 12: total purno over they make. They make more than that.

669
00:30:22,013 --> 00:30:24,493
Speaker 12: They have. All these I call them these theories try

670
00:30:24,573 --> 00:30:27,173
Speaker 12: to justify their cause as not any being in the

671
00:30:27,533 --> 00:30:29,893
Speaker 12: in the supermarket industry. I think I think they're doing it.

672
00:30:29,973 --> 00:30:32,653
Speaker 12: You look at all the owners who own supermarkets. They're

673
00:30:32,733 --> 00:30:33,973
Speaker 12: usually pretty wealthy people.

674
00:30:34,133 --> 00:30:35,213
Speaker 7: They can't be all that best.

675
00:30:36,093 --> 00:30:38,533
Speaker 5: Pretty well, go back about.

676
00:30:38,333 --> 00:30:42,053
Speaker 12: The grocery trolleys anyway barizing is doing. You should put

677
00:30:42,093 --> 00:30:45,333
Speaker 12: them back in the into the store to where you

678
00:30:45,333 --> 00:30:47,653
Speaker 12: should put them in their little booths or whatever, because

679
00:30:47,933 --> 00:30:50,493
Speaker 12: if everybody left their trolleys around, it'll be chaos. And

680
00:30:50,533 --> 00:30:53,813
Speaker 12: those in those car car parks, and then they've got

681
00:30:53,893 --> 00:30:57,253
Speaker 12: all these guys them go that they pay those guys

682
00:30:57,293 --> 00:30:59,453
Speaker 12: for them, but then they've got to pay someone else

683
00:30:59,453 --> 00:31:00,853
Speaker 12: to go. They say, you're not. You're going to pay

684
00:31:00,893 --> 00:31:02,933
Speaker 12: for it anyway, So why don't you just call it pup?

685
00:31:02,973 --> 00:31:05,253
Speaker 12: That's one thing you can do. It's like cleaning your

686
00:31:05,253 --> 00:31:08,933
Speaker 12: bottles and that for your recycle stuff. Clean them, clean them,

687
00:31:09,013 --> 00:31:12,173
Speaker 12: so the people that do the recycling, they're not dealing

688
00:31:12,173 --> 00:31:14,933
Speaker 12: with smelly milk bottles or whatever. We all do our

689
00:31:15,013 --> 00:31:18,933
Speaker 12: part in the world's editory. You're like you, they owe you,

690
00:31:18,973 --> 00:31:20,533
Speaker 12: but you're going to get away from that way of

691
00:31:20,613 --> 00:31:24,093
Speaker 12: thinking I'm back and then they then guarantee those people.

692
00:31:24,093 --> 00:31:26,373
Speaker 12: You just one guy, you spoke before the trolley puts it.

693
00:31:26,493 --> 00:31:28,933
Speaker 12: Someone pushes the trolley into this car, you be complaining.

694
00:31:29,053 --> 00:31:31,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, are you within your right Pete if you see

695
00:31:31,253 --> 00:31:33,413
Speaker 3: someone who's not taking their trolley back to grab that

696
00:31:33,453 --> 00:31:36,133
Speaker 3: trolley and just put that right behind their car as

697
00:31:36,133 --> 00:31:38,093
Speaker 3: they're getting there and so they can't back out. Are

698
00:31:38,093 --> 00:31:38,933
Speaker 3: within your right to do that?

699
00:31:39,573 --> 00:31:41,853
Speaker 2: Whether you let the supermarket vigilenty.

700
00:31:42,973 --> 00:31:44,453
Speaker 12: I haven't done that, yes, but it's not a bad

701
00:31:44,493 --> 00:31:44,853
Speaker 12: idea though.

702
00:31:44,853 --> 00:31:49,133
Speaker 3: Whether they might, you lose the goodness.

703
00:31:49,173 --> 00:31:51,493
Speaker 2: I think you lose that high ground there. You should

704
00:31:51,533 --> 00:31:53,213
Speaker 2: just have the warm feeling in your heart that you've

705
00:31:53,253 --> 00:31:56,373
Speaker 2: done the right thing. Returning the trolley. You need to

706
00:31:56,413 --> 00:31:58,573
Speaker 2: police it for the supermaking that might be going too far.

707
00:31:59,213 --> 00:32:01,133
Speaker 2: So can we go back to this thank you so

708
00:32:01,173 --> 00:32:06,373
Speaker 2: much for you call pete, So go back to this thing. So,

709
00:32:06,373 --> 00:32:09,653
Speaker 2: so I was saying before with the zero alcohol, so

710
00:32:09,693 --> 00:32:13,253
Speaker 2: why can't you buy zero aircraft nine o'clock at the

711
00:32:13,293 --> 00:32:17,333
Speaker 2: supermarkets with the laws come in around that, and people

712
00:32:17,373 --> 00:32:20,813
Speaker 2: keep saying because that's the rules. My question is why

713
00:32:20,933 --> 00:32:23,253
Speaker 2: is that the rule? There must be a reason why

714
00:32:23,413 --> 00:32:25,893
Speaker 2: someone has decided to come up with the stupidest rule

715
00:32:25,893 --> 00:32:28,813
Speaker 2: of all time that you can't because it's being opposed

716
00:32:28,853 --> 00:32:32,133
Speaker 2: on bottle stores in supermarkets, the nine o'clock rule, right,

717
00:32:32,653 --> 00:32:35,853
Speaker 2: So what is the people that are making up the

718
00:32:35,893 --> 00:32:38,053
Speaker 2: rule that have made that law, what is their logic

719
00:32:38,373 --> 00:32:42,373
Speaker 2: on zero alcohol which and people are saying, well zero

720
00:32:42,373 --> 00:32:44,053
Speaker 2: alco can have it up to two point five percent. No,

721
00:32:44,173 --> 00:32:46,933
Speaker 2: zero alcohol has to have zero less than five percent, right,

722
00:32:47,293 --> 00:32:48,933
Speaker 2: but you can get that much and you know.

723
00:32:48,933 --> 00:32:51,533
Speaker 3: Ca butcher butcher ginger beer. I mean there's a few

724
00:32:51,573 --> 00:32:55,013
Speaker 3: products that have that real residual amount of alcohol that

725
00:32:55,093 --> 00:32:56,533
Speaker 3: isn't covered under that law, right.

726
00:32:56,853 --> 00:33:00,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, So why did they add that? Why did they

727
00:33:00,453 --> 00:33:03,813
Speaker 2: add why did they include zero alcohol when it's not

728
00:33:03,973 --> 00:33:07,573
Speaker 2: alcohol and the alcohol after nine o'clock laws, it seems

729
00:33:07,613 --> 00:33:08,293
Speaker 2: insane to me.

730
00:33:08,373 --> 00:33:10,453
Speaker 3: Oh, eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty if you know,

731
00:33:10,613 --> 00:33:12,373
Speaker 3: love to hear from you nine to nine till it's

732
00:33:12,373 --> 00:33:14,293
Speaker 3: the text number. Kevin, you do want to have a

733
00:33:14,333 --> 00:33:16,013
Speaker 3: chat about alcohol and supermarkets?

734
00:33:16,973 --> 00:33:17,173
Speaker 5: Yeah?

735
00:33:17,253 --> 00:33:18,853
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, it'll be a good thing. Here goes. I'll

736
00:33:18,893 --> 00:33:22,173
Speaker 14: listen to you. I listen to your conversations, and I

737
00:33:22,173 --> 00:33:27,733
Speaker 14: think I think it's a blanket idea. After nine o'clock

738
00:33:27,813 --> 00:33:31,253
Speaker 14: boom zero. You don't care, that's that's fine. I don't

739
00:33:31,293 --> 00:33:33,253
Speaker 14: care about zero or one percent.

740
00:33:34,613 --> 00:33:35,133
Speaker 5: Cuff time.

741
00:33:35,533 --> 00:33:39,093
Speaker 14: If you can't organize your life to get to work

742
00:33:39,173 --> 00:33:40,653
Speaker 14: and then or if you go to work, or if

743
00:33:40,693 --> 00:33:43,333
Speaker 14: you do work and you need to have a barbecue

744
00:33:43,373 --> 00:33:48,733
Speaker 14: or something, you can't organize your life after nine o'clock. Well,

745
00:33:50,053 --> 00:33:52,853
Speaker 14: I don't see why people have to worry about fide

746
00:33:52,853 --> 00:33:54,373
Speaker 14: alcohol at nine o'clock.

747
00:33:54,053 --> 00:33:55,973
Speaker 2: Because I want to because I want to buy Arclift

748
00:33:56,053 --> 00:33:59,133
Speaker 2: nine o'clock and I don't call, and I don't cause

749
00:33:59,133 --> 00:34:01,693
Speaker 2: any problems in society. So you're trying to solve problems

750
00:34:01,733 --> 00:34:04,493
Speaker 2: by bear but not sailing alcohol after nine o'clock that

751
00:34:04,573 --> 00:34:05,093
Speaker 2: I don't cause.

752
00:34:06,413 --> 00:34:08,333
Speaker 14: No, No, I don't want to.

753
00:34:08,933 --> 00:34:10,773
Speaker 2: I don't want to buy it after I want to

754
00:34:10,813 --> 00:34:11,813
Speaker 2: buy it after nine o'clock.

755
00:34:12,813 --> 00:34:14,493
Speaker 14: Well, that's your problem.

756
00:34:14,613 --> 00:34:16,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my problem, because they're not they're trying to

757
00:34:16,533 --> 00:34:18,573
Speaker 2: not sell it after nine o'clock. So it is my problem.

758
00:34:18,573 --> 00:34:20,333
Speaker 2: But I don't think it should be my problem. I

759
00:34:20,373 --> 00:34:23,293
Speaker 2: think I think it's that. I think it's problem. I

760
00:34:23,293 --> 00:34:26,413
Speaker 2: think you're punishing that you're punishing the majority for the

761
00:34:26,453 --> 00:34:28,493
Speaker 2: behavior of the minority, and I don't think that's right.

762
00:34:30,053 --> 00:34:33,652
Speaker 14: I'm sixty three years old and I've been around this

763
00:34:33,733 --> 00:34:36,493
Speaker 14: world a long time, and if you're going to ever

764
00:34:36,533 --> 00:34:38,653
Speaker 14: be around to pick it up, behay boughs and stuff,

765
00:34:38,693 --> 00:34:41,453
Speaker 14: you do it after six or seven o'clock. M You

766
00:34:41,493 --> 00:34:44,093
Speaker 14: don't go in the super market.

767
00:34:43,813 --> 00:34:44,533
Speaker 5: At nine o'clock.

768
00:34:44,613 --> 00:34:45,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to.

769
00:34:47,053 --> 00:34:49,013
Speaker 11: Then you just have a cup of tea.

770
00:34:49,853 --> 00:34:52,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevin, I want to pick up a bottle of

771
00:34:52,093 --> 00:34:55,293
Speaker 2: wine after nine. I often often have to work late

772
00:34:55,333 --> 00:34:57,133
Speaker 2: in various things, and maybe I want to pick up

773
00:34:57,133 --> 00:34:58,533
Speaker 2: a bottle of wine. Maybe I'm going around to a

774
00:34:58,533 --> 00:35:00,172
Speaker 2: friend's house and I want to pick it up at nine,

775
00:35:00,413 --> 00:35:02,813
Speaker 2: and I haven't organized it and I'm not going to

776
00:35:02,813 --> 00:35:05,613
Speaker 2: cause any problem. So I think it's a bad idea,

777
00:35:05,733 --> 00:35:08,292
Speaker 2: and I think it's punishing the majority for the behavior

778
00:35:08,413 --> 00:35:09,253
Speaker 2: of the minority.

779
00:35:10,173 --> 00:35:11,933
Speaker 11: I don't pick it up at nine o'clock in the morning.

780
00:35:15,173 --> 00:35:16,973
Speaker 2: No, I want to get it at nine oh one.

781
00:35:17,493 --> 00:35:19,373
Speaker 2: That's when I like to buy my wine. Why shouldn't

782
00:35:19,373 --> 00:35:19,853
Speaker 2: I be allowed to?

783
00:35:19,933 --> 00:35:22,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty

784
00:35:22,613 --> 00:35:24,213
Speaker 3: is the number to call. Nine two nine two is

785
00:35:24,213 --> 00:35:26,652
Speaker 3: the text number. It is ten to two.

786
00:35:29,213 --> 00:35:32,853
Speaker 1: Matdeeth, Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred eighty

787
00:35:33,533 --> 00:35:36,573
Speaker 1: Madeth and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks.

788
00:35:36,613 --> 00:35:40,053
Speaker 3: It be news talks, it'd be seven to two.

789
00:35:40,253 --> 00:35:40,773
Speaker 2: Wow.

790
00:35:41,253 --> 00:35:43,493
Speaker 3: Certainly kicked off a bit of a hornet snaz.

791
00:35:43,533 --> 00:35:43,652
Speaker 15: Well.

792
00:35:43,693 --> 00:35:45,453
Speaker 3: A lot of people agreen with you that you should

793
00:35:45,493 --> 00:35:47,453
Speaker 3: be able to have your little bottle of wine after

794
00:35:47,533 --> 00:35:50,533
Speaker 3: nine o'clock, if you so choose a nice glass of reds.

795
00:35:51,173 --> 00:35:53,333
Speaker 2: Those rules just so annoying me. They just made up.

796
00:35:54,013 --> 00:35:56,533
Speaker 2: It's okay, Yeah, it's really gonna that's going to change

797
00:35:56,573 --> 00:35:58,373
Speaker 2: the world, isn't it? Because I can't buy a bottle

798
00:35:58,373 --> 00:35:59,253
Speaker 2: of wine from the supermarket.

799
00:35:59,293 --> 00:36:00,053
Speaker 16: On the way hand, at nine.

800
00:35:59,933 --> 00:36:05,893
Speaker 2: O'clock, here we go solved to alcoholism sold violence are solved. Stupid, right,

801
00:36:06,413 --> 00:36:07,533
Speaker 2: what's your feeling about this?

802
00:36:09,613 --> 00:36:13,293
Speaker 15: So I reckon you shipped out by alcohol nine o'clock.

803
00:36:13,373 --> 00:36:17,013
Speaker 15: I agree with him, Matt, I reckon, it's yeah, persecuting

804
00:36:17,053 --> 00:36:20,053
Speaker 15: in minority for what majority dates you don't have a

805
00:36:20,093 --> 00:36:23,172
Speaker 15: problem with, but actually really reminds me of when they

806
00:36:23,373 --> 00:36:25,373
Speaker 15: start to close all the bars and clubs at four

807
00:36:25,373 --> 00:36:27,493
Speaker 15: o'clock in the morning. Yeah, now, Matt, I feel like

808
00:36:27,533 --> 00:36:29,533
Speaker 15: you're prayed about the same agent they So you'll remember

809
00:36:29,613 --> 00:36:33,013
Speaker 15: in the late nineties to early two thousands, you go

810
00:36:33,333 --> 00:36:35,773
Speaker 15: to Caliber and Carrier at seven o'clock in the morning,

811
00:36:36,613 --> 00:36:39,013
Speaker 15: go on to supper clup of bears that you've gone

812
00:36:39,093 --> 00:36:42,893
Speaker 15: to stop a clop of bears the streets until lunchtime

813
00:36:43,253 --> 00:36:44,613
Speaker 15: on Saturday or Sunday.

814
00:36:45,413 --> 00:36:47,893
Speaker 2: It was sopper club. That was that supper club, that

815
00:36:47,973 --> 00:36:51,773
Speaker 2: sort of triangular brick situation. Am I getting the right

816
00:36:51,773 --> 00:36:52,813
Speaker 2: place one that?

817
00:36:53,693 --> 00:36:53,893
Speaker 5: Yeah?

818
00:36:53,893 --> 00:36:55,413
Speaker 15: The one that kind of looked like a looked like

819
00:36:55,493 --> 00:36:58,493
Speaker 15: a train station. Am. And it was in Bears for

820
00:36:58,653 --> 00:36:59,013
Speaker 15: the street.

821
00:36:59,613 --> 00:37:02,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I ended up there on a number of occasions.

822
00:37:04,373 --> 00:37:07,933
Speaker 15: Do you go, We probably know each other. But as

823
00:37:08,373 --> 00:37:10,573
Speaker 15: you had the situation where people were going out to

824
00:37:10,613 --> 00:37:14,093
Speaker 15: have a good time, not causing the problems, and the

825
00:37:14,253 --> 00:37:18,293
Speaker 15: government built and council decides for shaving down up for him,

826
00:37:18,333 --> 00:37:21,453
Speaker 15: and in my opinion, it killed the clothing scene. Yeah,

827
00:37:21,933 --> 00:37:26,013
Speaker 15: and for me, the alhol thing's a little bit the same.

828
00:37:26,053 --> 00:37:29,453
Speaker 15: So if there's a problem with family violence, or if

829
00:37:29,453 --> 00:37:32,973
Speaker 15: there's a problem with crime related to alcohol consumption, hey,

830
00:37:33,053 --> 00:37:34,933
Speaker 15: let's come down hard onment. Like you know, if the

831
00:37:35,173 --> 00:37:37,893
Speaker 15: problem with drink driving again the same, let's come down

832
00:37:37,893 --> 00:37:41,813
Speaker 15: hard on it. If there's problems related to alcohol, let's

833
00:37:41,853 --> 00:37:45,493
Speaker 15: address that. Yeah, let's not cry as all the people

834
00:37:45,533 --> 00:37:48,493
Speaker 15: who are wanting to buy a bottle of wine at

835
00:37:48,773 --> 00:37:51,613
Speaker 15: you know, nine ten eleven o'clock at night and who

836
00:37:51,693 --> 00:37:52,733
Speaker 15: aren't causing problems.

837
00:37:53,013 --> 00:37:55,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly punish the people that commit the crime. I

838
00:37:56,053 --> 00:37:58,653
Speaker 2: even think it's weird, and this will probably be controversial,

839
00:37:58,773 --> 00:38:03,053
Speaker 2: the idea that people can't be sold alcohol when they're

840
00:38:03,173 --> 00:38:06,692
Speaker 2: when they're intoxicated, because that's just a state of mind.

841
00:38:06,693 --> 00:38:07,973
Speaker 2: You're going to You're going to blame me for the

842
00:38:07,973 --> 00:38:11,333
Speaker 2: state of my brain. My brain is what my brain is.

843
00:38:11,453 --> 00:38:13,253
Speaker 2: If I'm not committing any crimes and there's no and

844
00:38:13,573 --> 00:38:16,373
Speaker 2: not doing anything wrong, then what's the crime that's been cut.

845
00:38:17,533 --> 00:38:19,493
Speaker 2: I'm a pretty intelligent guy. I might have made myself

846
00:38:19,533 --> 00:38:22,533
Speaker 2: about as stupid as your average person. You know, it's

847
00:38:22,533 --> 00:38:23,692
Speaker 2: a level of intoxication.

848
00:38:23,773 --> 00:38:26,293
Speaker 3: I mean, where's the line everyone's indipicated back?

849
00:38:27,173 --> 00:38:29,613
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So you've been blamed because some people

850
00:38:29,693 --> 00:38:32,533
Speaker 2: get angry or you know, in the nine o'clock things,

851
00:38:32,533 --> 00:38:35,133
Speaker 2: some people commit crimes and some people are drinking too

852
00:38:35,213 --> 00:38:37,692
Speaker 2: much or whatever. But you know, I've seen people lining

853
00:38:37,773 --> 00:38:39,613
Speaker 2: up out the front of bottle stores at nine am

854
00:38:39,773 --> 00:38:40,853
Speaker 2: to get their bottles of gin.

855
00:38:41,053 --> 00:38:41,252
Speaker 7: Yeah.

856
00:38:41,493 --> 00:38:44,133
Speaker 2: You know, if you're an alcoholic, you'll find you'll you'll

857
00:38:44,213 --> 00:38:46,733
Speaker 2: you're the nine pm is not going to be the

858
00:38:46,773 --> 00:38:47,613
Speaker 2: thing that stops you.

859
00:38:47,653 --> 00:38:49,373
Speaker 3: How does the casino get away with that? I'm pretty

860
00:38:49,413 --> 00:38:51,173
Speaker 3: sure you can drink twenty four seven at the casino,

861
00:38:51,213 --> 00:38:51,493
Speaker 3: can you.

862
00:38:51,653 --> 00:38:54,173
Speaker 2: That's all right because they're doing the good of allowing

863
00:38:54,213 --> 00:38:54,933
Speaker 2: people to gamble.

864
00:38:56,813 --> 00:38:59,252
Speaker 3: Yeah, ray, you're a good man, Thank you very much.

865
00:38:59,573 --> 00:39:01,213
Speaker 3: O eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

866
00:39:01,253 --> 00:39:02,613
Speaker 3: number to cool. If you want to jump in on

867
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Speaker 3: this one. Quick updates on the cricket. As soon as

868
00:39:06,813 --> 00:39:10,013
Speaker 3: we get out of upstairs, we'll give you that update

869
00:39:10,133 --> 00:39:14,213
Speaker 3: very shortly. Quick text here guys, if you want to

870
00:39:14,213 --> 00:39:16,013
Speaker 3: buy a bottle of wine after nine pm, go to

871
00:39:16,053 --> 00:39:19,973
Speaker 3: a bottle store. First World issues also I always use

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00:39:20,053 --> 00:39:21,373
Speaker 3: the self service checkout.

873
00:39:21,693 --> 00:39:21,893
Speaker 5: Yep.

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00:39:22,253 --> 00:39:23,853
Speaker 2: Hey, So to that person, if you want to buy

875
00:39:23,893 --> 00:39:25,573
Speaker 2: a bottle of wine after an APM, go to the

876
00:39:25,573 --> 00:39:27,893
Speaker 2: bottle store. Nah, I want to buy it at the supermarket.

877
00:39:27,893 --> 00:39:29,453
Speaker 2: So I'm annoyed that it's not. I can't do that.

878
00:39:29,413 --> 00:39:31,133
Speaker 3: Anymore, cheaper, better pinots there.

879
00:39:31,253 --> 00:39:33,652
Speaker 2: No, just I want it because it's it's stop on

880
00:39:33,653 --> 00:39:35,933
Speaker 2: the way home. I'm buying already buying some other food

881
00:39:35,973 --> 00:39:36,573
Speaker 2: for breakfast.

882
00:39:36,733 --> 00:39:40,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, three minutes to two. We'll see on the other side.

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Speaker 1: Your new home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's Maddie

884
00:39:45,933 --> 00:39:49,493
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons on news Talk SEBBE.

885
00:39:50,253 --> 00:39:52,973
Speaker 3: How do you welcome into Friday afternoon six pass too

886
00:39:53,013 --> 00:39:54,933
Speaker 3: great to have your company as always.

887
00:39:55,773 --> 00:39:56,053
Speaker 16: Yeah.

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00:39:56,253 --> 00:39:59,453
Speaker 2: So the cricket, it is one hundred and sixty four

889
00:39:59,533 --> 00:40:01,453
Speaker 2: for four. We had them seventy for four and it's

890
00:40:01,453 --> 00:40:04,293
Speaker 2: slipping away from us a little bit again. We won

891
00:40:04,373 --> 00:40:07,253
Speaker 2: the task and we put shows to field brooks now

892
00:40:07,253 --> 00:40:09,933
Speaker 2: on seventy five, one hundred and seventy one down at Hagley.

893
00:40:10,053 --> 00:40:13,133
Speaker 2: So he's going well again. Popelond forty four. They're looking

894
00:40:13,173 --> 00:40:16,252
Speaker 2: pretty comfortable down at the basin A beautiful day down

895
00:40:16,253 --> 00:40:19,293
Speaker 2: there in Wellington, and I absolutely love the Basin Reserve.

896
00:40:20,253 --> 00:40:22,053
Speaker 2: People are lucky enough to be going along to any

897
00:40:22,053 --> 00:40:26,453
Speaker 2: of these any of these days over this test, then

898
00:40:26,613 --> 00:40:27,732
Speaker 2: congratulations to you.

899
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Speaker 3: Jealous, Yeah, lucky ol beggers. Right on to the next topic.

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00:40:32,533 --> 00:40:33,693
Speaker 3: We want to have a chat about this for the

901
00:40:33,773 --> 00:40:37,893
Speaker 3: next hour or so. Bitcoin it's catapulted above one hundred

902
00:40:37,973 --> 00:40:42,253
Speaker 3: thousand dollars US late yesterday, so that's one hundred and

903
00:40:42,253 --> 00:40:45,533
Speaker 3: seventy thousand dollars New Zealand per bitcoin. That is the

904
00:40:45,533 --> 00:40:49,373
Speaker 3: first time it's reached that Miles Stone and a lot

905
00:40:49,413 --> 00:40:51,053
Speaker 3: of it has been put down to the re election

906
00:40:51,253 --> 00:40:54,093
Speaker 3: on Donald Trump. He has been quite a supporter of

907
00:40:54,133 --> 00:40:59,053
Speaker 3: the cryptocurrency space, and even skeptics are now saying there's

908
00:40:59,053 --> 00:41:01,573
Speaker 3: a potential for the lunks of bitcoin to enter into

909
00:41:01,573 --> 00:41:06,013
Speaker 3: the mainstream financial industry so to speak.

910
00:41:06,653 --> 00:41:09,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean it's just periodically just absolutely crashes, right,

911
00:41:09,973 --> 00:41:11,652
Speaker 2: So I don't know much about it. I never get

912
00:41:11,733 --> 00:41:13,933
Speaker 2: onto it. I got into it, so I've had a

913
00:41:13,933 --> 00:41:15,973
Speaker 2: bit of a fear of missing out. So when it

914
00:41:16,013 --> 00:41:18,013
Speaker 2: goes up, I feel like I missed an opportunity. When

915
00:41:18,053 --> 00:41:20,533
Speaker 2: it goes down, I go I feel better about myself.

916
00:41:21,333 --> 00:41:23,093
Speaker 2: But it's one of those classic things, though, isn't it.

917
00:41:23,133 --> 00:41:25,133
Speaker 2: You know, you should have bought a house in Queenstown

918
00:41:25,173 --> 00:41:27,973
Speaker 2: and it's nineteen eighty five or whatever where it was,

919
00:41:28,133 --> 00:41:31,893
Speaker 2: or well, you know, invested in AI chips as a

920
00:41:31,893 --> 00:41:33,893
Speaker 2: certain friend of mine did a couple of years ago.

921
00:41:33,933 --> 00:41:34,973
Speaker 2: It's done very well.

922
00:41:34,893 --> 00:41:36,613
Speaker 3: Born apple stock back in the eighties.

923
00:41:36,813 --> 00:41:39,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's all these things. There's all these could as

924
00:41:39,053 --> 00:41:41,853
Speaker 2: should of woods. But I don't. I've never been part

925
00:41:41,893 --> 00:41:45,253
Speaker 2: of bitcoin, and so when you say it's up this high,

926
00:41:45,413 --> 00:41:48,533
Speaker 2: I feel like it's going to collapse again. But I don't.

927
00:41:48,653 --> 00:41:50,933
Speaker 2: I don't know that as the train left the station,

928
00:41:51,853 --> 00:41:54,493
Speaker 2: you know of the outsized profits you can get from it,

929
00:41:54,813 --> 00:41:57,133
Speaker 2: or I mean, it seems to me you'd be wise

930
00:41:57,133 --> 00:41:59,893
Speaker 2: if it's this high, to wait until it crashes again

931
00:42:00,053 --> 00:42:02,933
Speaker 2: and buys it, you know, by by low sell it,

932
00:42:03,573 --> 00:42:04,533
Speaker 2: by low sell high.

933
00:42:04,653 --> 00:42:04,853
Speaker 5: Yeah.

934
00:42:04,933 --> 00:42:07,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, but one time it's going to go down and

935
00:42:07,533 --> 00:42:08,973
Speaker 2: not come back, or is it he's going to keep

936
00:42:09,173 --> 00:42:12,613
Speaker 2: going up? I mean bitcoin, it's is restricted amount of bitcoin.

937
00:42:12,933 --> 00:42:15,053
Speaker 2: You know that there's a solid amount. It's only being

938
00:42:15,053 --> 00:42:15,853
Speaker 2: divided up now.

939
00:42:15,893 --> 00:42:18,053
Speaker 3: But that's what I can't understand is where's the value.

940
00:42:18,053 --> 00:42:20,133
Speaker 3: What do you do with bitcoin? And hand up? I

941
00:42:20,453 --> 00:42:22,973
Speaker 3: purchased some bitcoin and I lost money in it because

942
00:42:22,973 --> 00:42:24,293
Speaker 3: I sold it at the right time, all that sort

943
00:42:24,333 --> 00:42:26,973
Speaker 3: of stuff. But even when I purchased it, I got

944
00:42:26,973 --> 00:42:28,773
Speaker 3: on the hype train because everyone was talking about it,

945
00:42:28,773 --> 00:42:30,853
Speaker 3: and yes I should have held it. I didn't, but

946
00:42:30,893 --> 00:42:33,333
Speaker 3: because I didn't really understand it, and I still don't.

947
00:42:33,493 --> 00:42:36,053
Speaker 2: Well, there are ways you can turn it into cash,

948
00:42:36,773 --> 00:42:40,813
Speaker 2: you know, into you know, standard currency. There's ways you

949
00:42:40,853 --> 00:42:43,413
Speaker 2: can do it, and you know you can spend up

950
00:42:43,493 --> 00:42:46,453
Speaker 2: large on the dark web with it, you know. To

951
00:42:46,493 --> 00:42:48,373
Speaker 2: be honest, I don't know much about it, and I

952
00:42:48,413 --> 00:42:50,813
Speaker 2: think that is because I missed the train. I don't

953
00:42:50,853 --> 00:42:52,413
Speaker 2: like to think about it so much because I feel

954
00:42:52,453 --> 00:42:53,533
Speaker 2: like I could have made a lot of money if

955
00:42:53,533 --> 00:42:57,253
Speaker 2: i'd got on it. But is it? Is it at

956
00:42:57,253 --> 00:42:57,733
Speaker 2: its peak?

957
00:42:57,813 --> 00:42:58,013
Speaker 5: Now?

958
00:42:58,813 --> 00:43:02,013
Speaker 2: Does it have a future as being a legitimate currency?

959
00:43:02,453 --> 00:43:04,493
Speaker 2: I mean, what was the country? I forget it right now.

960
00:43:04,533 --> 00:43:06,573
Speaker 2: It slipped down in my mind that floated the idea

961
00:43:06,613 --> 00:43:09,133
Speaker 2: of having bitcoin as its currency.

962
00:43:09,213 --> 00:43:11,772
Speaker 3: That's right. It was one of the South Americans, wasn't

963
00:43:11,773 --> 00:43:14,173
Speaker 3: It was an equidor yeah, And I don't think that

964
00:43:14,213 --> 00:43:15,773
Speaker 3: worked out too well. For them that did it.

965
00:43:15,933 --> 00:43:18,853
Speaker 2: No, will it ever be mainstream or is it just

966
00:43:18,853 --> 00:43:22,013
Speaker 2: an opportunity to make outsize gains.

967
00:43:22,413 --> 00:43:25,013
Speaker 3: To me, it feels like a Ponzi scheme. I'll be honest.

968
00:43:25,333 --> 00:43:27,333
Speaker 3: I mean, I look at the likes of NFT. Remember

969
00:43:27,453 --> 00:43:31,133
Speaker 3: n FT, these digital little photographs. Everyone got really excited

970
00:43:31,133 --> 00:43:33,293
Speaker 3: by them. Justin Bieber had a few. He thought these

971
00:43:33,333 --> 00:43:36,213
Speaker 3: little pictures of monkeys were worth three hundred thousand dollars

972
00:43:36,173 --> 00:43:38,813
Speaker 3: a year. Wes and that crashed and crashed badly and

973
00:43:38,853 --> 00:43:39,692
Speaker 3: that's not coming back.

974
00:43:39,773 --> 00:43:43,973
Speaker 2: But NFT's never passed the sniff test because I mean,

975
00:43:44,133 --> 00:43:47,172
Speaker 2: I mean, everyone that was smart thought about and going,

976
00:43:47,173 --> 00:43:48,692
Speaker 2: well that this is just a digital image. You can

977
00:43:48,693 --> 00:43:50,133
Speaker 2: copy and paste it as many times as you want,

978
00:43:50,173 --> 00:43:51,853
Speaker 2: or this is just a digital file or whatever it is.

979
00:43:52,213 --> 00:43:53,933
Speaker 2: You know, it was never going to be the same

980
00:43:53,973 --> 00:43:56,252
Speaker 2: as art because you know, you might buy a piece

981
00:43:56,293 --> 00:43:59,293
Speaker 2: of art because we love things to be scarce. Humans

982
00:43:59,333 --> 00:44:01,613
Speaker 2: love scarce things, and you know that the artist has

983
00:44:01,613 --> 00:44:04,133
Speaker 2: touched that and there's only one of them that counts.

984
00:44:04,453 --> 00:44:06,533
Speaker 2: That's why a print of art isn't worth as much

985
00:44:06,533 --> 00:44:08,693
Speaker 2: as the original art. Yeah, you know you can, you

986
00:44:08,733 --> 00:44:11,053
Speaker 2: know you can print twenty five thousand copies of a

987
00:44:11,053 --> 00:44:12,933
Speaker 2: piece of art, but you can only have one of

988
00:44:12,973 --> 00:44:16,573
Speaker 2: the originals. That's another issue. But is bitcoin for real?

989
00:44:16,893 --> 00:44:18,333
Speaker 2: Is cryptocurrency for real?

990
00:44:18,533 --> 00:44:21,853
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine two niney two

991
00:44:21,933 --> 00:44:23,893
Speaker 3: is the text number? Is it real? And is it

992
00:44:23,933 --> 00:44:25,652
Speaker 3: going to end in tears? For a lot of people

993
00:44:25,773 --> 00:44:27,533
Speaker 3: love to hear from you on this one. It is

994
00:44:27,853 --> 00:44:31,493
Speaker 3: twelve past two.

995
00:44:30,653 --> 00:44:34,333
Speaker 1: Your new home of afternoon Talk and eaton Tyler Adams

996
00:44:34,373 --> 00:44:38,453
Speaker 1: Afternoon Call. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk said.

997
00:44:38,173 --> 00:44:42,573
Speaker 3: Be good afternoon. We're talking about bitcoin. It has just

998
00:44:42,653 --> 00:44:45,813
Speaker 3: gone above one hundred thousand US per coin for the

999
00:44:45,813 --> 00:44:49,133
Speaker 3: first time. That's one hundred and seventy thousand dollars US,

1000
00:44:49,253 --> 00:44:53,333
Speaker 3: which is a meteoric rise for a digital currency. If

1001
00:44:53,373 --> 00:44:56,133
Speaker 3: you are on the bitcoin train, love to hear from you.

1002
00:44:56,373 --> 00:44:58,692
Speaker 3: What are you seeing it? Do you genuinely believe this

1003
00:44:58,773 --> 00:45:00,613
Speaker 3: is the future of money, as a lot of these

1004
00:45:00,653 --> 00:45:02,893
Speaker 3: crypto people do. I just can't see it.

1005
00:45:03,133 --> 00:45:05,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because you said that you see this

1006
00:45:05,693 --> 00:45:07,652
Speaker 2: a bit of a Ponzi scheme. But someone said, you know,

1007
00:45:07,693 --> 00:45:11,493
Speaker 2: the stock market is Ponzi scheme as well. Then as

1008
00:45:11,533 --> 00:45:14,053
Speaker 2: person says, people after you buy at a higher price,

1009
00:45:14,093 --> 00:45:17,493
Speaker 2: give you their value. And Ecuador and Ol Salvador are

1010
00:45:17,533 --> 00:45:19,933
Speaker 2: two different countries. Come on, guys, at least get the

1011
00:45:19,973 --> 00:45:22,893
Speaker 2: facts right. Who said that Ecuador and ol Salvador or

1012
00:45:22,893 --> 00:45:25,413
Speaker 2: the same country. So the first half of year around

1013
00:45:25,413 --> 00:45:27,893
Speaker 2: text makes sense. Your second half makes a zero sense

1014
00:45:27,893 --> 00:45:30,093
Speaker 2: at all. No one said that thing anyway, It doesn't matter.

1015
00:45:30,293 --> 00:45:31,813
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, yeah. You could say the same things

1016
00:45:31,813 --> 00:45:33,853
Speaker 2: about the stock market, right and different companies on the

1017
00:45:34,293 --> 00:45:36,733
Speaker 2: stock market, and you know how many times have we

1018
00:45:36,773 --> 00:45:39,093
Speaker 2: had booms and busts, and you know, just talk about

1019
00:45:39,133 --> 00:45:41,973
Speaker 2: the AI bubble right now. You know what, people get

1020
00:45:42,013 --> 00:45:44,333
Speaker 2: excited about the story that goes ahead and then it

1021
00:45:44,413 --> 00:45:46,692
Speaker 2: turns out the fundamentals weren't there. It's happened so many

1022
00:45:46,693 --> 00:45:47,573
Speaker 2: times in the stock market.

1023
00:45:47,653 --> 00:45:50,252
Speaker 3: It's a good points like that game stock situation where

1024
00:45:50,293 --> 00:45:52,573
Speaker 3: there was one feller on Reddit that said that game

1025
00:45:52,613 --> 00:45:54,813
Speaker 3: stock was undervalued and then it kind of took off

1026
00:45:54,853 --> 00:45:57,813
Speaker 3: that everyone started buying up stock of game stock and

1027
00:45:57,853 --> 00:46:00,653
Speaker 3: it just went through the roof. Ben, you've got a

1028
00:46:00,693 --> 00:46:03,173
Speaker 3: bit of money and bitcoin, Yes.

1029
00:46:03,133 --> 00:46:06,613
Speaker 17: I put five hundred bucks and picking think it was

1030
00:46:06,613 --> 00:46:09,733
Speaker 17: twenty seventeen when ended up going through the roof up

1031
00:46:09,773 --> 00:46:13,253
Speaker 17: to sixteen grander coin and then I've got yeah, five

1032
00:46:13,293 --> 00:46:15,813
Speaker 17: hundred bucks in and then a boomer crashed down to

1033
00:46:15,893 --> 00:46:18,573
Speaker 17: about I think about four or five thousand dollars a coin,

1034
00:46:18,613 --> 00:46:22,373
Speaker 17: and I just left it. It's yeah, it's exceeded. I

1035
00:46:22,413 --> 00:46:24,213
Speaker 17: think what I've got on there is quest to twelve

1036
00:46:24,213 --> 00:46:26,613
Speaker 17: grand now, so that five grand has become about twelve grand.

1037
00:46:26,893 --> 00:46:29,973
Speaker 17: I think five hundred has become about twelve grands. So

1038
00:46:30,013 --> 00:46:33,613
Speaker 17: the way I say, and just like what Elon Musk,

1039
00:46:33,773 --> 00:46:38,133
Speaker 17: is as long as governments borrow big money and inflation

1040
00:46:38,333 --> 00:46:41,333
Speaker 17: is about and you know you've got the risk of

1041
00:46:41,333 --> 00:46:45,613
Speaker 17: a currency collapse because the government's training under debt, Bitcoin's

1042
00:46:45,613 --> 00:46:49,133
Speaker 17: always going to be a good bit because you know,

1043
00:46:49,253 --> 00:46:52,013
Speaker 17: people would rather put the money into something then leave

1044
00:46:52,053 --> 00:46:54,813
Speaker 17: it in the bank when potentially the currency could collapse

1045
00:46:54,853 --> 00:46:57,692
Speaker 17: at some point. So yeah, as long as as long

1046
00:46:57,733 --> 00:47:01,053
Speaker 17: as government has rien debt, bitcoin's always going to be

1047
00:47:01,093 --> 00:47:01,813
Speaker 17: a good bit.

1048
00:47:02,013 --> 00:47:04,773
Speaker 2: Well that's the argument for it, isn't that because there's

1049
00:47:04,853 --> 00:47:06,653
Speaker 2: never going to be more bitcoin. It's just being broken

1050
00:47:06,733 --> 00:47:09,973
Speaker 2: up right now. Whereas we're countit of easing and such,

1051
00:47:10,773 --> 00:47:14,493
Speaker 2: governments can just massively devalue your dollar. So your your

1052
00:47:14,533 --> 00:47:17,973
Speaker 2: dollar can can just change it's worth and things that

1053
00:47:18,013 --> 00:47:21,533
Speaker 2: you have no control over. But so would you just

1054
00:47:21,693 --> 00:47:24,252
Speaker 2: so you said that you've got about twelve thousand dollars

1055
00:47:24,293 --> 00:47:27,133
Speaker 2: worth now, and you know it's at these peaks. Are

1056
00:47:27,173 --> 00:47:28,333
Speaker 2: you just going to leave it in there? Are you

1057
00:47:28,413 --> 00:47:30,013
Speaker 2: going to leave it in there? Or are you going

1058
00:47:30,093 --> 00:47:31,973
Speaker 2: to you know, what would it take for you to

1059
00:47:32,493 --> 00:47:33,893
Speaker 2: take it back out and cash in?

1060
00:47:35,053 --> 00:47:37,293
Speaker 17: I think if it went to about two fifty a coin,

1061
00:47:38,173 --> 00:47:41,533
Speaker 17: you know, two hundred and fifty grand, I might catch

1062
00:47:41,573 --> 00:47:44,973
Speaker 17: it out then, but I started with five hundred bucks.

1063
00:47:44,973 --> 00:47:46,453
Speaker 17: If it goes down, and but I'm not so worried,

1064
00:47:46,453 --> 00:47:48,732
Speaker 17: I'm not I'm not going to lose any money soon.

1065
00:47:49,693 --> 00:47:52,533
Speaker 17: But you know, like, yes, I'm basically waiting for the

1066
00:47:52,573 --> 00:47:55,732
Speaker 17: next financial crash life in two thousand and eight, two

1067
00:47:55,733 --> 00:47:59,772
Speaker 17: thousand and nine we had And yeah, no, I've got

1068
00:47:59,773 --> 00:48:02,413
Speaker 17: no doubt bitcoin might reach three or four hundred thousand

1069
00:48:02,453 --> 00:48:03,053
Speaker 17: bucks a coin.

1070
00:48:04,213 --> 00:48:07,013
Speaker 3: You reckon your bitcoin is secure being you know, you

1071
00:48:07,053 --> 00:48:09,812
Speaker 3: hear a lot of stories of people who have their

1072
00:48:09,893 --> 00:48:13,813
Speaker 3: cryptocurrency taken away from them by scammers or these crypto

1073
00:48:13,813 --> 00:48:15,933
Speaker 3: exchanges being shut down. Do you worry about that?

1074
00:48:16,653 --> 00:48:19,853
Speaker 17: Yeah, I've never had an issue with that, but a lot.

1075
00:48:19,893 --> 00:48:22,053
Speaker 17: Like I said, I started with five hundred. But so

1076
00:48:22,213 --> 00:48:25,213
Speaker 17: if it does go, you know, can cow you know,

1077
00:48:25,533 --> 00:48:27,933
Speaker 17: I'm I'm only losing five hundred bucks. I don't have

1078
00:48:28,053 --> 00:48:30,692
Speaker 17: like you know a lot of people more wage their

1079
00:48:30,693 --> 00:48:32,493
Speaker 17: house up to the hill and chuck it and bitcoin

1080
00:48:32,573 --> 00:48:34,933
Speaker 17: and that. You know, I don't have that, So I'm

1081
00:48:34,973 --> 00:48:35,933
Speaker 17: not too concerned.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting, Ben, thank you very much. A lot of

1083
00:48:40,253 --> 00:48:42,173
Speaker 3: techs coming through here to get a guys. I almost

1084
00:48:42,173 --> 00:48:45,293
Speaker 3: bought three thousand dollars worth when bitcoin were about two

1085
00:48:45,373 --> 00:48:47,893
Speaker 3: dollars a coin, but because I didn't understand it, I

1086
00:48:47,973 --> 00:48:50,293
Speaker 3: never bothered. Even at sixty thousand dollars, I would have

1087
00:48:50,293 --> 00:48:52,613
Speaker 3: done very nicely. Ah, well as you see it, Matt

1088
00:48:52,693 --> 00:48:54,373
Speaker 3: shoulder Water could I.

1089
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Speaker 2: Know that's the thing. You can't go through life doing

1090
00:48:56,573 --> 00:48:59,813
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. If you go on holiday, you're

1091
00:48:59,813 --> 00:49:03,093
Speaker 2: down at the beach or something, and you just spend

1092
00:49:03,093 --> 00:49:06,413
Speaker 2: your entire holiday looking at these properties, going if only

1093
00:49:07,253 --> 00:49:09,333
Speaker 2: twenty five years ago I visited here, I'd bought a

1094
00:49:09,373 --> 00:49:11,613
Speaker 2: property here. Now it would be worth money. It's like

1095
00:49:11,653 --> 00:49:13,813
Speaker 2: you did it. You did it, and the past isn't

1096
00:49:13,813 --> 00:49:17,613
Speaker 2: a realm you live in. But bitcoin going forward. So

1097
00:49:17,933 --> 00:49:21,613
Speaker 2: if it if it crashes again and you buy, because

1098
00:49:21,613 --> 00:49:23,733
Speaker 2: it's quite expensive to buy right now. I mean you

1099
00:49:23,733 --> 00:49:27,133
Speaker 2: can buy parts of it obviously, but it's quite expensive.

1100
00:49:28,453 --> 00:49:29,893
Speaker 2: Is it just going to come back up because last

1101
00:49:29,933 --> 00:49:32,292
Speaker 2: time it crashed I thought, oh, well, maybe that's bitcoin done.

1102
00:49:32,293 --> 00:49:33,973
Speaker 2: But it's come back even stronger.

1103
00:49:34,653 --> 00:49:37,053
Speaker 3: So good question. Why why is it keep coming back stronger?

1104
00:49:37,053 --> 00:49:39,693
Speaker 3: Obviously the reelection of Donald Trump as a part of that.

1105
00:49:40,093 --> 00:49:42,053
Speaker 3: But if you're in the bitcoin space, love to hear

1106
00:49:42,053 --> 00:49:44,692
Speaker 3: from you. On Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine

1107
00:49:44,733 --> 00:49:47,453
Speaker 3: two nine two is a text number. Also, you know,

1108
00:49:47,453 --> 00:49:49,693
Speaker 3: I think about those guys that had bitcoin in the

1109
00:49:49,773 --> 00:49:51,853
Speaker 3: very early days and put it in one of these wallets,

1110
00:49:51,893 --> 00:49:54,692
Speaker 3: then forgot the password and we're talking there was one

1111
00:49:54,693 --> 00:49:56,773
Speaker 3: guy who had three hundred million dollars worth.

1112
00:49:57,413 --> 00:49:59,093
Speaker 2: Well, there's that guy that's still going through that dump

1113
00:49:59,133 --> 00:50:00,373
Speaker 2: looking through his USB stack.

1114
00:50:00,453 --> 00:50:00,652
Speaker 3: Poor.

1115
00:50:01,293 --> 00:50:03,853
Speaker 2: That is a sad Gollum like situation that that guy

1116
00:50:04,493 --> 00:50:06,853
Speaker 2: is in this texture On nine two nine two says

1117
00:50:06,853 --> 00:50:09,173
Speaker 2: bitcoin will become a very dominant trolling currency in the

1118
00:50:09,173 --> 00:50:12,893
Speaker 2: digital world we are heading into. Living could possibly worth

1119
00:50:13,253 --> 00:50:15,373
Speaker 2: up to one million dollars within the next five to

1120
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Speaker 2: ten years. And it's going to surprise everyone. So that

1121
00:50:18,493 --> 00:50:19,413
Speaker 2: texture is all in on.

1122
00:50:19,413 --> 00:50:22,013
Speaker 3: Bitcoin certainly is oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty,

1123
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Speaker 3: So the number to call it is twenty past two

1124
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Speaker 3: News Talk zed B. Now, Gladiator is an absolute classic.

1125
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Speaker 3: And if you've been waiting all this time for a

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Speaker 3: sequel while you were in luck, because Gladiator two is

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1129
00:50:41,213 --> 00:50:43,413
Speaker 2: intrigue and vengeance set in ancient Rome.

1130
00:50:43,973 --> 00:50:46,493
Speaker 3: Legendary director Ridley Scott returns, so you know it's in

1131
00:50:46,533 --> 00:50:47,133
Speaker 3: good hands.

1132
00:50:47,333 --> 00:50:50,253
Speaker 2: Plus the cast is absolutely star studded as well.

1133
00:50:50,453 --> 00:50:54,493
Speaker 3: It features Paul Meskal Pedro Pascal and Denzel Washington.

1134
00:50:54,693 --> 00:50:57,733
Speaker 2: Years after witnessing the death of the revered hero Maximus

1135
00:50:57,733 --> 00:51:00,133
Speaker 2: at the hands of his uncle, Lucius is forced to

1136
00:51:00,293 --> 00:51:02,453
Speaker 2: enter the coliseum after his home is conquered by the

1137
00:51:02,453 --> 00:51:05,493
Speaker 2: tyrannical emperors, who now lead Rome with an iron fist.

1138
00:51:05,693 --> 00:51:07,933
Speaker 3: With rage in his heart and the future of the

1139
00:51:07,933 --> 00:51:10,453
Speaker 3: empire state, Lucius must look to his past to find

1140
00:51:10,493 --> 00:51:12,853
Speaker 3: strength and honor to return the glory of Rome to

1141
00:51:12,893 --> 00:51:13,373
Speaker 3: its people.

1142
00:51:14,573 --> 00:51:17,453
Speaker 2: The saga. The epic Saga continues with Gladiator two and

1143
00:51:17,493 --> 00:51:20,173
Speaker 2: cinemas now are sixty.

1144
00:51:20,213 --> 00:51:21,973
Speaker 3: Go check it out. So if you're a fan of

1145
00:51:22,013 --> 00:51:26,333
Speaker 3: Gladiator one, you'll love this one.

1146
00:51:27,533 --> 00:51:31,212
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1147
00:51:31,253 --> 00:51:32,812
Speaker 1: ten eighty on News Talk ZV.

1148
00:51:33,093 --> 00:51:37,093
Speaker 3: We're talking about bitcoin. It has hit historic levels US

1149
00:51:37,173 --> 00:51:40,973
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand dollars per coin. When you look at

1150
00:51:40,973 --> 00:51:43,772
Speaker 3: the fact that was around about three thousand dollars New

1151
00:51:43,933 --> 00:51:47,493
Speaker 3: Zealand just six years ago. That is a huge increase.

1152
00:51:47,733 --> 00:51:49,493
Speaker 3: So where is the value on bitcoin? If you're on

1153
00:51:49,493 --> 00:51:52,053
Speaker 3: the bitcoin train, love to hear from you on eight

1154
00:51:52,133 --> 00:51:55,573
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty. How much did you have, Tyler? I, Well,

1155
00:51:55,653 --> 00:51:57,853
Speaker 3: here's the thing that really rips my undies as I

1156
00:51:58,013 --> 00:52:01,533
Speaker 3: purchased it in twenty seventeen when it was three thousand

1157
00:52:01,533 --> 00:52:04,493
Speaker 3: per coin. So if i'd kept that bitcoin, but of

1158
00:52:04,493 --> 00:52:06,853
Speaker 3: course I and I still don't. I think it's a

1159
00:52:06,853 --> 00:52:09,293
Speaker 3: bit of a Ponzi scheme that I road the waves

1160
00:52:09,413 --> 00:52:11,692
Speaker 3: where I made some money then last to a lot

1161
00:52:11,693 --> 00:52:13,973
Speaker 3: of money, and I kept pumping a little bit of

1162
00:52:13,973 --> 00:52:15,933
Speaker 3: money into it. That's why I think because I was

1163
00:52:15,973 --> 00:52:17,732
Speaker 3: one of those people holding the bag at the end,

1164
00:52:18,053 --> 00:52:19,652
Speaker 3: A lot of people at the top made a lot

1165
00:52:19,653 --> 00:52:22,053
Speaker 3: of money. People like me lost a lot of money.

1166
00:52:22,533 --> 00:52:23,652
Speaker 3: But I think it's going to happen again.

1167
00:52:23,693 --> 00:52:26,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, best get held on than you had been doing well. Yeah, yeah,

1168
00:52:27,973 --> 00:52:29,453
Speaker 2: the same with the same with a lot of things.

1169
00:52:29,533 --> 00:52:32,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, I reckon Simon might have held on. Get a Simon.

1170
00:52:33,813 --> 00:52:37,093
Speaker 11: Good a. Boys. I was just listening to the start

1171
00:52:37,093 --> 00:52:38,652
Speaker 11: of this show here and I thought I was just

1172
00:52:38,653 --> 00:52:40,693
Speaker 11: sit here and listen to this, but I just couldn't

1173
00:52:40,693 --> 00:52:44,213
Speaker 11: help myself and I had to bring up there's a

1174
00:52:44,293 --> 00:52:48,133
Speaker 11: much bigger picture to cryptocurrency than than what you guys

1175
00:52:48,133 --> 00:52:52,573
Speaker 11: are talking about. And I think Tyler, you are quite

1176
00:52:52,653 --> 00:52:56,253
Speaker 11: uninformed about about bitcoin. I don't believe it's a Ponzi

1177
00:52:56,333 --> 00:52:56,933
Speaker 11: scheme at all.

1178
00:52:57,133 --> 00:52:58,493
Speaker 3: And enlightened me Simon.

1179
00:53:01,173 --> 00:53:04,693
Speaker 11: I mean, there's been all sorts of talk and time's

1180
00:53:04,733 --> 00:53:08,293
Speaker 11: gone by that cryptocurrency was for drug dealers and bank robbers.

1181
00:53:08,373 --> 00:53:10,893
Speaker 11: There's all these transactions were being done on the on

1182
00:53:10,973 --> 00:53:14,373
Speaker 11: the street corner, which may well have been the case

1183
00:53:14,573 --> 00:53:18,613
Speaker 11: in years gone by. But whenever you see the police

1184
00:53:18,613 --> 00:53:21,133
Speaker 11: doing a big raid on a gang, you always see

1185
00:53:21,133 --> 00:53:24,133
Speaker 11: piles and piles of cash, So you know cash is

1186
00:53:24,173 --> 00:53:28,373
Speaker 11: equally as bad as you know it's no different. But

1187
00:53:28,373 --> 00:53:33,292
Speaker 11: but but cryptocurrency, Bitcoin in particular is what you might

1188
00:53:33,293 --> 00:53:39,373
Speaker 11: cause store store of value, and the fear currency system

1189
00:53:39,893 --> 00:53:47,373
Speaker 11: is somewhat fraudulent. It's lost something like about ninety of

1190
00:53:47,413 --> 00:53:48,093
Speaker 11: its value.

1191
00:53:48,373 --> 00:53:52,413
Speaker 2: What's what's the what's sorry, just what's the dollars?

1192
00:53:52,613 --> 00:53:52,973
Speaker 5: Dollars?

1193
00:53:54,013 --> 00:53:57,692
Speaker 11: Dollars. It's lost a vast proportion of its its of

1194
00:53:57,733 --> 00:54:04,453
Speaker 11: its value due to inflation. So you know, we're in

1195
00:54:04,533 --> 00:54:09,693
Speaker 11: we're in spot of trouble. And and over over time,

1196
00:54:10,133 --> 00:54:14,493
Speaker 11: history has shown us that not one single form of

1197
00:54:15,013 --> 00:54:20,893
Speaker 11: currency has ever lasted the distance, but all failed. And

1198
00:54:20,933 --> 00:54:22,853
Speaker 11: we're heading that way with the with the with the

1199
00:54:22,893 --> 00:54:24,893
Speaker 11: current system as we know it.

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00:54:25,093 --> 00:54:27,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got some she I've got some shekels for you.

1201
00:54:27,893 --> 00:54:31,333
Speaker 2: That for you, I'll trade you some shekels for your bitcoin.

1202
00:54:32,173 --> 00:54:34,373
Speaker 11: Well, we did used to use shells, and we did

1203
00:54:34,453 --> 00:54:37,893
Speaker 11: used to use tobacco and salt and rocks and boulders

1204
00:54:37,933 --> 00:54:39,053
Speaker 11: and all those sorts of things.

1205
00:54:39,053 --> 00:54:45,093
Speaker 2: And tobacco was quite recently a big part of the

1206
00:54:45,293 --> 00:54:47,453
Speaker 2: in America, wasn't it. The tobacco was a huge part

1207
00:54:47,453 --> 00:54:47,613
Speaker 2: of it.

1208
00:54:47,813 --> 00:54:48,013
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1209
00:54:48,053 --> 00:54:49,973
Speaker 11: Well what happened, of course, was and it was the

1210
00:54:50,013 --> 00:54:51,812
Speaker 11: same with the shells and the same with the salt

1211
00:54:51,973 --> 00:54:54,293
Speaker 11: was it was that people found ways of making more

1212
00:54:54,333 --> 00:54:54,613
Speaker 11: of us.

1213
00:54:54,733 --> 00:54:55,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

1214
00:54:56,293 --> 00:54:58,853
Speaker 11: So somebody went off and grew some more tobacco somewhere else.

1215
00:54:58,893 --> 00:55:01,973
Speaker 11: And that's exactly what's happening with with with currency, is

1216
00:55:01,973 --> 00:55:04,173
Speaker 11: that they just keep making more of it and then

1217
00:55:04,253 --> 00:55:09,253
Speaker 11: it becomes worth less and that's what causes the Yeah.

1218
00:55:09,373 --> 00:55:12,093
Speaker 3: So I get the argument simon that something only has

1219
00:55:12,173 --> 00:55:14,333
Speaker 3: value if people believe it has value. You know, if

1220
00:55:14,333 --> 00:55:16,293
Speaker 3: we look at coins and paper money, we can't really

1221
00:55:16,293 --> 00:55:19,853
Speaker 3: do anything with those apart from spend them as currency

1222
00:55:19,853 --> 00:55:21,573
Speaker 3: because we all believe it's got value. And that's the

1223
00:55:21,613 --> 00:55:22,373
Speaker 3: same with bitcoin.

1224
00:55:22,453 --> 00:55:22,613
Speaker 5: Right.

1225
00:55:22,853 --> 00:55:24,733
Speaker 3: But when you look at the governments around the world

1226
00:55:24,773 --> 00:55:28,213
Speaker 3: now starting to try and get into digital currency themselves,

1227
00:55:28,253 --> 00:55:30,493
Speaker 3: does that worry you that they will trample over the

1228
00:55:30,573 --> 00:55:32,653
Speaker 3: likes of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.

1229
00:55:33,653 --> 00:55:37,133
Speaker 11: I think it's probably in their best interests to try

1230
00:55:37,133 --> 00:55:39,413
Speaker 11: and work with it, because we do live in a

1231
00:55:39,453 --> 00:55:47,133
Speaker 11: digital world, you know. I mean, bitcoin is digital. Gold,

1232
00:55:48,973 --> 00:55:53,813
Speaker 11: dollars and cents is analogue. It's old score stuff. I mean,

1233
00:55:54,533 --> 00:55:56,493
Speaker 11: for the people out here that are listening, I mean,

1234
00:55:56,853 --> 00:56:04,893
Speaker 11: this is the first global private, digital decentralized rules based

1235
00:56:04,933 --> 00:56:08,093
Speaker 11: monetary system and history.

1236
00:56:07,773 --> 00:56:09,773
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's quite big.

1237
00:56:10,013 --> 00:56:12,973
Speaker 2: It's quite a thing. But one thing that the old

1238
00:56:13,013 --> 00:56:15,493
Speaker 2: currencies have, you take the US dollar for example, is

1239
00:56:15,533 --> 00:56:18,253
Speaker 2: they have an army that back them up. So if

1240
00:56:18,293 --> 00:56:20,732
Speaker 2: a government decides to make a decision, and you see

1241
00:56:20,773 --> 00:56:23,173
Speaker 2: a little bit of this in China, if they decide

1242
00:56:23,173 --> 00:56:26,772
Speaker 2: to make a decision against a digital currency, they can

1243
00:56:26,853 --> 00:56:29,693
Speaker 2: just they can just shut it down using the violence

1244
00:56:29,693 --> 00:56:31,733
Speaker 2: that the state has it at its hand. Is that

1245
00:56:31,813 --> 00:56:34,613
Speaker 2: something that you can can see being a problem in

1246
00:56:34,613 --> 00:56:35,053
Speaker 2: the future.

1247
00:56:36,013 --> 00:56:39,133
Speaker 11: I yeah, Look, I don't know about that. That's bigger

1248
00:56:39,133 --> 00:56:42,172
Speaker 11: than my that's bigger than my pay my pay scale,

1249
00:56:43,013 --> 00:56:48,533
Speaker 11: you know. I mean, bitcoin in particular is considered it's

1250
00:56:48,613 --> 00:56:51,333
Speaker 11: not considered a security and a security as things like

1251
00:56:51,413 --> 00:56:57,573
Speaker 11: shears and bonds. Bitcoin is regarded as a commodity such

1252
00:56:57,613 --> 00:57:00,773
Speaker 11: as like gold or nickel or something like that. So

1253
00:57:01,573 --> 00:57:05,973
Speaker 11: it's it's in. The ten largest fund managers in America

1254
00:57:06,893 --> 00:57:09,493
Speaker 11: are all allowed to deal with them, and that's only

1255
00:57:09,533 --> 00:57:12,813
Speaker 11: been something since. So about March this year, it was

1256
00:57:12,813 --> 00:57:16,773
Speaker 11: illegal four of the fund managers to buy it, and

1257
00:57:17,013 --> 00:57:18,573
Speaker 11: now they are and they are.

1258
00:57:18,493 --> 00:57:19,493
Speaker 14: In Donkey Deep.

1259
00:57:20,613 --> 00:57:23,333
Speaker 11: Now there are a lot of people over there and.

1260
00:57:23,293 --> 00:57:25,413
Speaker 2: So we're talking about bitcoin here, of cose, of course

1261
00:57:25,453 --> 00:57:29,493
Speaker 2: there's a number of cryptocurrencies out there. In your opinion,

1262
00:57:30,373 --> 00:57:34,533
Speaker 2: how many of them are secure and have the same

1263
00:57:35,653 --> 00:57:38,093
Speaker 2: solidity of say Bitcoin, the same credibility.

1264
00:57:38,853 --> 00:57:41,933
Speaker 11: Well, there's a bloke in the States called Michael Saylor,

1265
00:57:41,973 --> 00:57:45,373
Speaker 11: and those who have crypto bitcoin will know that name. Well,

1266
00:57:45,413 --> 00:57:48,973
Speaker 11: here's what you'd call a bitcoin maximalist. As far as

1267
00:57:48,973 --> 00:57:51,413
Speaker 11: he's concerned, and I tend to agree with him. There

1268
00:57:51,493 --> 00:57:55,813
Speaker 11: is really only one crypto currency that Bitcoin. The rest

1269
00:57:55,813 --> 00:58:00,573
Speaker 11: of them are s hi t really just crazy.

1270
00:58:00,733 --> 00:58:03,413
Speaker 3: But Bitcoin's never going to be used as a currency though,

1271
00:58:03,413 --> 00:58:06,053
Speaker 3: as at Simon, due to the fact that it's not stable.

1272
00:58:06,253 --> 00:58:08,533
Speaker 3: I understand there are stable coins that exist in the

1273
00:58:08,533 --> 00:58:10,373
Speaker 3: crypto space, but Bitcoin is not that.

1274
00:58:11,693 --> 00:58:14,013
Speaker 11: Not right at the moment, but in time to come,

1275
00:58:14,533 --> 00:58:17,933
Speaker 11: once the world once once, once it develops, it could

1276
00:58:18,013 --> 00:58:20,373
Speaker 11: look it could take decades. Well it will take decades

1277
00:58:20,413 --> 00:58:23,933
Speaker 11: and decades and decades, but you will eventually be able

1278
00:58:23,973 --> 00:58:25,013
Speaker 11: to and you can do it now.

1279
00:58:25,133 --> 00:58:25,733
Speaker 15: You will be.

1280
00:58:25,733 --> 00:58:32,333
Speaker 11: Able to transact using bitcoin with your phone. Well, and

1281
00:58:32,693 --> 00:58:34,413
Speaker 11: the good thing about it is that, I mean, if

1282
00:58:34,453 --> 00:58:36,893
Speaker 11: you compare bitcoin to gold, if you needed to move

1283
00:58:36,933 --> 00:58:40,853
Speaker 11: a million dollars worth of gold from New Zealand to America.

1284
00:58:41,253 --> 00:58:43,813
Speaker 11: It's going to take a long time, it's going to

1285
00:58:43,813 --> 00:58:47,573
Speaker 11: be really expensive, and of course it's very very heavy.

1286
00:58:48,253 --> 00:58:50,333
Speaker 11: But if you wanted to move a million dollars worth

1287
00:58:50,373 --> 00:58:52,613
Speaker 11: of coin, you can do it at the speed of

1288
00:58:52,733 --> 00:58:57,773
Speaker 11: life for ten dollars. It's really it's really cheap and

1289
00:58:57,813 --> 00:59:00,813
Speaker 11: it's really fast. So it's got a lot of properties

1290
00:59:00,853 --> 00:59:04,133
Speaker 11: that other things don't have.

1291
00:59:06,253 --> 00:59:10,453
Speaker 2: Advantageous reserve bank decisions will become an interesting thing. The

1292
00:59:10,973 --> 00:59:15,413
Speaker 2: O c R I Bitcoin, which is international and you

1293
00:59:15,493 --> 00:59:18,973
Speaker 2: know outside of government control, becomes a thing.

1294
00:59:19,173 --> 00:59:21,373
Speaker 11: That well, banks will hate it, and the government will

1295
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Speaker 11: hate it because I because I because they lose control

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Speaker 11: over it. I mean they control the currency system now

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Speaker 11: they just pump a bit more in whenever they need it,

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Speaker 11: and they control things by fisuing money or taking a

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00:59:32,293 --> 00:59:35,093
Speaker 11: bit away, you know, and they will hate it because

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00:59:35,333 --> 00:59:37,733
Speaker 11: they've got no control over it. And then that's great

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00:59:37,773 --> 00:59:41,773
Speaker 11: for the citizens because you do control it. One hundred

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00:59:41,853 --> 00:59:46,293
Speaker 11: senior control it, and you know, you can lose it

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00:59:46,453 --> 00:59:49,453
Speaker 11: by losing your your wallet and all those sorts of things,

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00:59:49,533 --> 00:59:51,813
Speaker 11: or your your passwords, all those sorts of things. But

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00:59:52,253 --> 00:59:53,653
Speaker 11: you can lose your cash as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Interesting. Just before you go, Simon, what's your cat's name?

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00:59:57,013 --> 01:00:01,133
Speaker 3: I heard your wee cat in the background says A

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Speaker 3: double beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Yea not bitcoin.

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Speaker 3: So I thank you very much, mate, will carry this

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01:00:08,173 --> 01:00:10,973
Speaker 3: on after the headlines. I wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 3: If you're all in on bitcoin or cryptocurrency, why love

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Speaker 3: to hear from you. That was very good from Simon.

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Speaker 2: Interesting and and if it scares you because in a

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01:00:19,613 --> 01:00:23,493
Speaker 2: world of bitcoin, how are we taxing to pay for

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01:00:23,573 --> 01:00:25,813
Speaker 2: schools and roads and healthcare and such?

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01:00:25,973 --> 01:00:32,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is twenty eight to three.

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Speaker 2: You talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis.

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Speaker 4: It's no trouble with a blue bubble or at Tabardi

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01:00:38,333 --> 01:00:41,253
Speaker 4: Care says the government's pilot boot camp program is a

1321
01:00:41,253 --> 01:00:43,733
Speaker 4: hard road, but they're in it for the long haul.

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01:00:44,213 --> 01:00:46,813
Speaker 4: Two of the nine young people are now missing, and

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01:00:46,973 --> 01:00:51,213
Speaker 4: OT has revealed two have faced arrests. The nine hundred

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Speaker 4: and eighty hectare scrub fire near Canterbury's Lake Pearson is

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01:00:54,653 --> 01:00:58,133
Speaker 4: still out of control and the Holloway Lodge Wilderness hut

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01:00:58,253 --> 01:01:02,093
Speaker 4: has burnt down, but fire an emergency says improving weather

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01:01:02,333 --> 01:01:05,893
Speaker 4: offers hope the blaze now has a seventeen kilometer perimeter,

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01:01:06,213 --> 01:01:08,973
Speaker 4: but there's no present threat to the Castle Hill community.

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01:01:09,813 --> 01:01:12,653
Speaker 4: The weather's also clear enough to allow a helicopter carrying

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01:01:12,773 --> 01:01:16,573
Speaker 4: drone operators up Alraqi Martkook with are being briefed on

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01:01:16,693 --> 01:01:21,493
Speaker 4: looking for three missing climbers. Octopus Energy says the key

1332
01:01:21,533 --> 01:01:25,813
Speaker 4: to lower power bills is ensuring competition to spur investment

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01:01:26,213 --> 01:01:29,213
Speaker 4: after an OECD report has found a lack of competition

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01:01:29,533 --> 01:01:33,973
Speaker 4: effects New Zealand's productivity hopes the three billion dollar government

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01:01:34,013 --> 01:01:37,973
Speaker 4: grant will help future proof hawks Bays water supply, allowing

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Speaker 4: research of a potential dam on the Markaruru River. Simon

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01:01:43,533 --> 01:01:46,933
Speaker 4: bridges on three policies for growth that are needed right now.

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Speaker 4: You can see his full column at inzt Herald Premium.

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01:01:50,213 --> 01:01:52,333
Speaker 4: Back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylean. We're talking about bitcoin after

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01:01:54,653 --> 01:01:57,733
Speaker 3: it hit historic highs of US one hundred thousand dollars

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01:01:57,733 --> 01:02:01,093
Speaker 3: about one hundred and seventy k New Zealand. Is there

1343
01:02:01,093 --> 01:02:03,133
Speaker 3: a mess of future and bitcoin? Is that the future

1344
01:02:03,133 --> 01:02:07,053
Speaker 3: of currency? As one of our previous callers Simon said, and.

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01:02:07,013 --> 01:02:09,173
Speaker 2: Simon made a really good point about people talking about

1346
01:02:09,173 --> 01:02:13,533
Speaker 2: bitcoin being dodgy, but there's nothing dodgy than cash. Cash

1347
01:02:13,613 --> 01:02:17,413
Speaker 2: is pretty dodgy. Yeah, you know, criminals can can use

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01:02:17,453 --> 01:02:19,853
Speaker 2: cash without any kind of paper trail.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Robert, how are you?

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Speaker 9: I'm good? Thanks, guys, how are you?

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01:02:25,093 --> 01:02:25,293
Speaker 5: Yeah?

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01:02:25,333 --> 01:02:28,373
Speaker 3: Good? Now you're heavily involved in the crypto site, well,

1353
01:02:28,413 --> 01:02:31,893
Speaker 3: the investment side of crypto, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I am.

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Speaker 9: And actually I was really liking what Simon was saying

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01:02:36,733 --> 01:02:38,893
Speaker 9: about bitcoin and everything that you said. I agree with

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01:02:38,893 --> 01:02:42,693
Speaker 9: with the Michael Sailors. And to add to what he

1358
01:02:42,733 --> 01:02:47,373
Speaker 9: was saying, the governments had been buying institutional buyers had

1359
01:02:47,373 --> 01:02:50,053
Speaker 9: been buying bitcoin because it is a store of value,

1360
01:02:50,053 --> 01:02:53,853
Speaker 9: it is digital gold, and it will ultimately replace the

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01:02:53,893 --> 01:02:56,693
Speaker 9: whole financial system because as he was saying, just to

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01:02:56,693 --> 01:02:59,333
Speaker 9: add to what Simon was saying, is it to be

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01:02:59,413 --> 01:03:02,013
Speaker 9: fair that if you look at go back in history,

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01:03:02,133 --> 01:03:04,693
Speaker 9: financial systems only usually last one hundred to one hundred

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01:03:04,733 --> 01:03:09,493
Speaker 9: and twenty years before they wiped out. Where I draw

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01:03:09,533 --> 01:03:12,453
Speaker 9: the line is what the reason why I called was

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01:03:12,453 --> 01:03:16,013
Speaker 9: because Simon was going so well, and then he turned

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01:03:16,013 --> 01:03:19,013
Speaker 9: around and said all the other old coins or the

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01:03:19,053 --> 01:03:24,573
Speaker 9: other cryptocurrencies are shit, and that just raised here's on

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01:03:24,653 --> 01:03:29,813
Speaker 9: my back of my neck because this is this is ignorance.

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01:03:29,893 --> 01:03:32,253
Speaker 9: I'm sorry, but Simon was right up to a point,

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01:03:32,253 --> 01:03:35,413
Speaker 9: but this is absolutely ignorance. And let me just explain quickly, please.

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01:03:36,013 --> 01:03:40,293
Speaker 9: So there are companies out there and I won't name

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01:03:40,333 --> 01:03:44,733
Speaker 9: them because I've invested in them. They have global partners

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01:03:45,373 --> 01:03:52,533
Speaker 9: like Dell, Boeing, Amazon, Mondolai, which is the largest snack

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01:03:52,573 --> 01:03:55,373
Speaker 9: manufacturer in the world, that have come on chain. When

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01:03:55,373 --> 01:03:59,013
Speaker 9: we refer to distributed ledge of technologies, this is a

1378
01:03:59,093 --> 01:04:04,373
Speaker 9: new Web three, smart contracts, all these terms that probably

1379
01:04:04,373 --> 01:04:07,733
Speaker 9: lot of listeners don't even understand. And it's not because

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01:04:08,613 --> 01:04:12,813
Speaker 9: it's just because crypto is new. So where I'm getting

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01:04:12,853 --> 01:04:16,933
Speaker 9: to in this conversation is that we're shifting from Web

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01:04:16,973 --> 01:04:19,853
Speaker 9: two to Web three, which is the third generation of

1383
01:04:19,893 --> 01:04:22,853
Speaker 9: the World Wide Web, and it's referred to as Web

1384
01:04:22,933 --> 01:04:27,373
Speaker 9: three because it emphasizes the emersions into the digital world.

1385
01:04:28,413 --> 01:04:33,893
Speaker 9: So when Simon says that all the other cryptocurrencies are shit,

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01:04:34,813 --> 01:04:40,573
Speaker 9: this is absolute ignorance because the situation is that there

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01:04:40,653 --> 01:04:44,893
Speaker 9: are fortune five hundred companies that are buying into these

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01:04:45,373 --> 01:04:50,933
Speaker 9: ecosystems outside of Bitcoin that are basically shifting the game

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01:04:50,973 --> 01:04:53,173
Speaker 9: plan and moving us into a world of Web three

1390
01:04:53,213 --> 01:04:57,733
Speaker 9: and digitalization, whether it's for payment rails systems. So I'll

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01:04:57,733 --> 01:05:00,933
Speaker 9: give an example is a company called a Payment Australian

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01:05:01,013 --> 01:05:06,373
Speaker 9: payment plus. They control all the FPOs transactions what we

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01:05:06,453 --> 01:05:13,013
Speaker 9: call micropayments. Guess what, it's all being supported now by

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01:05:13,653 --> 01:05:19,933
Speaker 9: some of these digital cryptocurrencies. So he's far removed from

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01:05:19,933 --> 01:05:24,653
Speaker 9: the reality that it's not just about bitcoin. There are

1396
01:05:25,053 --> 01:05:28,933
Speaker 9: developers building on these ecosystems and they are growing out.

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01:05:29,413 --> 01:05:33,853
Speaker 9: So point in case, the company I was talking about earlier, Google, Amazon,

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01:05:34,133 --> 01:05:39,293
Speaker 9: Manderlay Ittashi, these are governing council members who control the

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01:05:39,453 --> 01:05:44,013
Speaker 9: nodes on the network. And this particular company which I

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01:05:44,533 --> 01:05:49,373
Speaker 9: remain nameless because it's not investment advice, they're working with

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01:05:49,413 --> 01:05:52,733
Speaker 9: a company called wise Sat. We're putting satellites in space

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01:05:52,853 --> 01:05:56,053
Speaker 9: right now as we're having this conversation, and they're working

1403
01:05:56,053 --> 01:06:02,013
Speaker 9: with SpaceX Neilon Musk's company, because they will be the

1404
01:06:02,093 --> 01:06:07,973
Speaker 9: new payment systems that will literally shift the old I

1405
01:06:08,013 --> 01:06:12,773
Speaker 9: guess the FUNCT system and make it more efficient. Anyway,

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01:06:12,973 --> 01:06:13,373
Speaker 9: I mean, this.

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Speaker 3: Is this is good right, and clearly there are other

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01:06:16,933 --> 01:06:20,333
Speaker 3: systems and coins out there that have a lot of

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01:06:20,933 --> 01:06:23,933
Speaker 3: hope behind them. But clearly you'd except there are coins

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01:06:23,973 --> 01:06:27,733
Speaker 3: out there, mean coins for example, or even FTX. You

1411
01:06:27,733 --> 01:06:30,013
Speaker 3: know when that went down and how much money they

1412
01:06:30,053 --> 01:06:32,293
Speaker 3: lost in the system, it does feel still a little

1413
01:06:32,333 --> 01:06:33,973
Speaker 3: bit wild West in that crypto space.

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Speaker 9: Well, well that's that's because regulation wasn't around, and this

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01:06:39,333 --> 01:06:41,973
Speaker 9: is the this is the catch. Twenty twenty four was

1416
01:06:42,013 --> 01:06:44,133
Speaker 9: all about getting rid of the bad actors like Sam

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01:06:44,213 --> 01:06:50,733
Speaker 9: Dagman phrase the ftxs, all the other companies that fell over,

1418
01:06:50,813 --> 01:06:57,573
Speaker 9: because in any industry, financial industry, you have to have regulation.

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01:06:58,653 --> 01:07:02,773
Speaker 9: And once you have regulation or clarity of regulation, that's

1420
01:07:02,813 --> 01:07:06,173
Speaker 9: when the institutional invests like Blackrock get the green on

1421
01:07:06,333 --> 01:07:11,293
Speaker 9: it and they managing fifteen trillion of funds under management

1422
01:07:11,453 --> 01:07:16,613
Speaker 9: or JP Morgan you know, so Jamie Diamond, all those people.

1423
01:07:16,933 --> 01:07:19,453
Speaker 9: These were the people, the Black Rocks and the JP

1424
01:07:19,573 --> 01:07:23,813
Speaker 9: Morgan's in all the other companies institutions that were telling

1425
01:07:23,813 --> 01:07:26,053
Speaker 9: me one to stay awa from bitcoin three years ago.

1426
01:07:27,413 --> 01:07:31,973
Speaker 9: Why because they were building exchanges and they were accumulating it.

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01:07:32,013 --> 01:07:36,853
Speaker 9: Because they did not want the wealthy, the mainstream people

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01:07:36,853 --> 01:07:40,373
Speaker 9: to get rich. This is the fair thing. So they

1429
01:07:40,493 --> 01:07:44,053
Speaker 9: were putting people off bitcoin. And then you got the

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01:07:44,093 --> 01:07:47,053
Speaker 9: Michael saylors like the Strategy who was actually removed from

1431
01:07:47,053 --> 01:07:51,133
Speaker 9: his own company because he was buying bitcoin at thirty

1432
01:07:51,213 --> 01:07:52,373
Speaker 9: thousand and that one was.

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01:07:52,333 --> 01:07:53,613
Speaker 18: Laughing at him.

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Speaker 9: And now look at him. Now, he's just accumulating it

1435
01:07:58,093 --> 01:08:01,533
Speaker 9: because they know there's only a supply of twenty one million.

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01:08:03,053 --> 01:08:07,053
Speaker 9: And all these countries are now using bitcoin as a

1437
01:08:07,093 --> 01:08:10,373
Speaker 9: store of value because the financial system, as Simon said,

1438
01:08:10,853 --> 01:08:11,453
Speaker 9: it is broken.

1439
01:08:11,773 --> 01:08:14,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's that's where it could be interesting going

1440
01:08:14,733 --> 01:08:17,133
Speaker 2: forward for a small country like New Zealand. You talking

1441
01:08:17,133 --> 01:08:19,973
Speaker 2: about these big players, these big financial players coming in

1442
01:08:20,452 --> 01:08:22,773
Speaker 2: and if a country like New Zealand can't regulate its

1443
01:08:22,773 --> 01:08:27,852
Speaker 2: currency and can't run its fiscal policy and the you know,

1444
01:08:28,133 --> 01:08:30,932
Speaker 2: the the the currency that we use, if it became

1445
01:08:31,013 --> 01:08:35,652
Speaker 2: primarily bitcoin or some kind of cryptocurrency, then what does

1446
01:08:35,652 --> 01:08:38,132
Speaker 2: that mean for the future of a tiny little country

1447
01:08:38,253 --> 01:08:40,932
Speaker 2: like New Zealand. That's you know, out it's out at

1448
01:08:40,933 --> 01:08:43,572
Speaker 2: sea on the on the on the on the economic waves.

1449
01:08:45,333 --> 01:08:52,253
Speaker 9: One of myself. Yeah, I look, I believe that. Yeah,

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01:08:52,372 --> 01:08:56,973
Speaker 9: I believe currency. Currency is going to remain for a

1451
01:08:57,093 --> 01:09:02,812
Speaker 9: good he is, at least before it fades out. And

1452
01:09:02,933 --> 01:09:05,452
Speaker 9: if you just look at all central banks around the world,

1453
01:09:05,452 --> 01:09:10,973
Speaker 9: they're creating CDCs, central banktis currencies, and that's part of

1454
01:09:10,973 --> 01:09:15,492
Speaker 9: the new financial system. And we're in the greatest period

1455
01:09:15,532 --> 01:09:18,333
Speaker 9: of our time. This is the greatest financial reset of

1456
01:09:18,372 --> 01:09:23,133
Speaker 9: our generations. And we're now at the forefront of this

1457
01:09:23,293 --> 01:09:27,452
Speaker 9: new technology. Now, if we look at cryptocurrency, and you

1458
01:09:27,612 --> 01:09:31,492
Speaker 9: mentioned bad actors we're talking about earlier, Proud is that

1459
01:09:32,492 --> 01:09:35,652
Speaker 9: the kycs and the amls and anti money undering and

1460
01:09:35,732 --> 01:09:41,892
Speaker 9: the know your customers. It's all changed. Like seriously, these

1461
01:09:42,452 --> 01:09:45,412
Speaker 9: enterprises are now coming into these cryptos that have been

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01:09:45,492 --> 01:09:50,892
Speaker 9: regulated because as I said, number one, you regulate the industry.

1463
01:09:52,293 --> 01:09:55,892
Speaker 9: Number two, enterprise follows comes in, they get the green light.

1464
01:09:55,973 --> 01:09:58,813
Speaker 9: Institutents get the green light to put their investment, investors,

1465
01:09:59,612 --> 01:10:05,053
Speaker 9: the clients into the bitcoins and ms xrps have just

1466
01:10:05,133 --> 01:10:08,692
Speaker 9: gone through another court case which they deal with cross

1467
01:10:08,692 --> 01:10:12,093
Speaker 9: border payment. So all the unbanked around the world, all

1468
01:10:12,133 --> 01:10:15,093
Speaker 9: the money in sunbanks can now be transferred around the

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01:10:15,093 --> 01:10:18,972
Speaker 9: world and in time to consensus or transactions three seconds

1470
01:10:19,053 --> 01:10:25,413
Speaker 9: using XRPS technology or Ripple's technology. Ripple are now advisors

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01:10:25,452 --> 01:10:30,972
Speaker 9: the Donald Trump's crypto team. I mean, it's all there,

1472
01:10:31,053 --> 01:10:34,053
Speaker 9: it's all happening, and people this is the fourth This

1473
01:10:34,093 --> 01:10:37,133
Speaker 9: is the next stage of the fourth Industrial Revolution. Point

1474
01:10:37,173 --> 01:10:40,372
Speaker 9: number one. Number two is that we are now in

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01:10:40,412 --> 01:10:46,892
Speaker 9: the phase of web pree, smart contracts, decentralized finance, and

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01:10:47,053 --> 01:10:50,772
Speaker 9: this version of the emphasizes personal data ownerships as well.

1477
01:10:50,973 --> 01:10:53,053
Speaker 9: People've been talking about for a few years now, is

1478
01:10:53,093 --> 01:10:57,412
Speaker 9: that the blockchain technology is transparent and it's fast, and

1479
01:10:57,492 --> 01:11:00,692
Speaker 9: it's efficient, and we've moved to another level that actors

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01:11:00,732 --> 01:11:01,173
Speaker 9: are gone.

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01:11:01,333 --> 01:11:04,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, well listening, We've got to go, But thank you

1482
01:11:04,053 --> 01:11:05,492
Speaker 2: so much for you call Robert very interesting.

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01:11:05,532 --> 01:11:07,692
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Love to hear

1484
01:11:07,732 --> 01:11:10,973
Speaker 3: your thoughts on the one. It is a quarter to three.

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01:11:12,612 --> 01:11:15,052
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1486
01:11:15,093 --> 01:11:18,532
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. Afternoons you

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01:11:18,692 --> 01:11:20,973
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four you've talked, say'd.

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01:11:20,692 --> 01:11:23,932
Speaker 3: Be good afternoon. We're talking about bitcoin. It has cranked

1489
01:11:23,973 --> 01:11:28,012
Speaker 3: the US one hundred thousand dollar mark per coin. Aaron,

1490
01:11:28,093 --> 01:11:30,893
Speaker 3: you've been involved for a number of years.

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01:11:31,053 --> 01:11:32,213
Speaker 15: Yeah, hey, guys, can you hear me?

1492
01:11:32,253 --> 01:11:32,532
Speaker 12: All right?

1493
01:11:32,652 --> 01:11:33,412
Speaker 3: Got ya here?

1494
01:11:33,412 --> 01:11:36,972
Speaker 15: You're good, nice, nice, Yeah, it's a it's a very

1495
01:11:37,372 --> 01:11:39,852
Speaker 15: special time, you know, to see it go to such

1496
01:11:39,853 --> 01:11:42,812
Speaker 15: a milestone. I mean, I think echoing a lot of

1497
01:11:42,812 --> 01:11:45,692
Speaker 15: what the last two callers, the gentleman Holds have been

1498
01:11:45,732 --> 01:11:48,612
Speaker 15: talking about holds a lot of weight. And if you

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01:11:48,652 --> 01:11:51,372
Speaker 15: think back, you know, five to ten years ago bitcoin,

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01:11:51,452 --> 01:11:54,253
Speaker 15: the onus was on almost like the developers of bitcoin

1501
01:11:54,333 --> 01:11:56,732
Speaker 15: to prove you know, the theory behind it. But you

1502
01:11:56,772 --> 01:12:00,492
Speaker 15: look now like the guys who said that last Paul's

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01:12:00,532 --> 01:12:04,253
Speaker 15: You've got the biggest names in the institutional finance backing

1504
01:12:04,293 --> 01:12:06,972
Speaker 15: it and saying that this does have a store of value.

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01:12:07,053 --> 01:12:08,212
Speaker 11: So it's interesting.

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01:12:08,492 --> 01:12:11,173
Speaker 15: I mean, I would just urge everyone to research and

1507
01:12:11,213 --> 01:12:13,053
Speaker 15: learn about it, because it's good to learn about new

1508
01:12:13,053 --> 01:12:14,173
Speaker 15: things instead of being afraid.

1509
01:12:14,253 --> 01:12:15,173
Speaker 5: Same with ADI, you.

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01:12:15,173 --> 01:12:17,692
Speaker 7: Know, the same type of things that they're.

1511
01:12:17,492 --> 01:12:19,892
Speaker 15: Developing so quick you want to learn about them, so

1512
01:12:20,133 --> 01:12:22,213
Speaker 15: obviously pull all your money into them and switch all

1513
01:12:22,213 --> 01:12:25,253
Speaker 15: your investments to bitcoin because it's volatile, So you know,

1514
01:12:25,372 --> 01:12:26,732
Speaker 15: if you have a look at it like that, it's

1515
01:12:26,772 --> 01:12:28,132
Speaker 15: it's a little more easy to digest.

1516
01:12:28,973 --> 01:12:33,053
Speaker 2: How much how much do you think that bitcoin's going

1517
01:12:33,093 --> 01:12:35,253
Speaker 2: to take over? At last quarter was saying that it's

1518
01:12:35,253 --> 01:12:37,652
Speaker 2: only amount of time for ten years or something, and

1519
01:12:37,692 --> 01:12:39,812
Speaker 2: what would what would that mean for people's mortgages and

1520
01:12:39,853 --> 01:12:44,572
Speaker 2: people that that that are currently operating in the the

1521
01:12:44,812 --> 01:12:47,412
Speaker 2: the NZ dollar, if it's going to be replaced by

1522
01:12:47,452 --> 01:12:52,452
Speaker 2: some kind of global uh chain chain currency.

1523
01:12:53,772 --> 01:12:56,413
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, I think the fear the fear involved

1524
01:12:56,492 --> 01:13:00,692
Speaker 15: were not fear, but just the skeptical skepticism behind national

1525
01:13:00,732 --> 01:13:04,132
Speaker 15: currency is being replaced by, you know, a global currency.

1526
01:13:04,253 --> 01:13:06,412
Speaker 15: We probably got quite a few ways away from that

1527
01:13:06,492 --> 01:13:09,452
Speaker 15: decades even, but I think what what's already maturing and

1528
01:13:09,452 --> 01:13:11,372
Speaker 15: people will see this probably in the next three to

1529
01:13:11,452 --> 01:13:14,333
Speaker 15: five years. In my opinion is that because bitcoin holds

1530
01:13:14,452 --> 01:13:16,933
Speaker 15: hold such a store of value, you'll be able to

1531
01:13:17,013 --> 01:13:19,973
Speaker 15: lend and borrow against it. There's already companies over in

1532
01:13:19,973 --> 01:13:22,293
Speaker 15: the States that are managing billions of dollars that are

1533
01:13:22,333 --> 01:13:25,453
Speaker 15: developing like hybrid loans, so you can sort of refinance

1534
01:13:25,492 --> 01:13:28,492
Speaker 15: your house. Part of bitcoin is a net portfolio, and

1535
01:13:28,532 --> 01:13:31,093
Speaker 15: because bitcoin is at a very good track record now

1536
01:13:31,333 --> 01:13:36,293
Speaker 15: of increasing in value, it sort of helps to pay

1537
01:13:36,293 --> 01:13:38,652
Speaker 15: off the mortgage at the same time, and you're basically

1538
01:13:38,692 --> 01:13:41,812
Speaker 15: using that as collateral rather than having a mortgage that's

1539
01:13:41,812 --> 01:13:43,973
Speaker 15: solely on the collateral of a house right, which is

1540
01:13:43,973 --> 01:13:46,652
Speaker 15: a property, but bitcoin is being viewed as property, so

1541
01:13:46,692 --> 01:13:49,053
Speaker 15: it's maturing in that sense as well. I mean you

1542
01:13:49,133 --> 01:13:52,333
Speaker 15: smilestone that just it puts bitcoin at about fifteen percent

1543
01:13:52,772 --> 01:13:56,253
Speaker 15: of the same net worth as gold. And I mean,

1544
01:13:56,652 --> 01:13:59,213
Speaker 15: can you borrow against gold these days? I mean people

1545
01:13:59,253 --> 01:14:00,892
Speaker 15: praym it's the heart of that that can you borrow

1546
01:14:00,893 --> 01:14:01,692
Speaker 15: against it?

1547
01:14:01,692 --> 01:14:02,293
Speaker 5: It's not very.

1548
01:14:02,173 --> 01:14:02,692
Speaker 15: Easy to do.

1549
01:14:02,853 --> 01:14:02,973
Speaker 5: Well.

1550
01:14:02,973 --> 01:14:06,532
Speaker 2: The whole gold thing confuses me because you know, people

1551
01:14:06,572 --> 01:14:08,053
Speaker 2: just say that that has a worth and it's more

1552
01:14:08,093 --> 01:14:11,492
Speaker 2: solid than cash, but that's also just a perception of

1553
01:14:11,532 --> 01:14:14,213
Speaker 2: its value because it's a shiny, solid block. I mean,

1554
01:14:14,253 --> 01:14:18,093
Speaker 2: all currencies are just based on people agreeing to buy

1555
01:14:18,093 --> 01:14:19,292
Speaker 2: into an illusion, aren't.

1556
01:14:19,053 --> 01:14:23,732
Speaker 15: They well totally agree. There's a human sentiment involved in

1557
01:14:24,013 --> 01:14:26,852
Speaker 15: what's value or right, what holds value. It's like fine art, right,

1558
01:14:27,133 --> 01:14:29,133
Speaker 15: some person might buy it's a fine art for ten

1559
01:14:29,133 --> 01:14:31,772
Speaker 15: million dollars and all these other people would say, hey,

1560
01:14:31,933 --> 01:14:34,372
Speaker 15: I'd never pay that much for it, but certain people would, right.

1561
01:14:34,732 --> 01:14:38,092
Speaker 15: And it's one item, right, So it's an interesting concept.

1562
01:14:38,173 --> 01:14:41,092
Speaker 15: Although you know gold's had that thousand, thousands of years history.

1563
01:14:41,372 --> 01:14:43,612
Speaker 15: The thing about gold, though, is it's not exactly scarce.

1564
01:14:43,692 --> 01:14:47,452
Speaker 15: You know, they're still mining, they're still finding more supplies

1565
01:14:47,532 --> 01:14:51,132
Speaker 15: of it. But The other important thing listeners should understand

1566
01:14:51,173 --> 01:14:53,812
Speaker 15: in some way is that I guess we can all

1567
01:14:53,853 --> 01:14:57,612
Speaker 15: agree since twenty nineteen governments have been very irresponsible with

1568
01:14:57,692 --> 01:14:59,812
Speaker 15: the money supply. So you've got to look at the

1569
01:14:59,933 --> 01:15:02,133
Speaker 15: point a bit of a hedge, right The point is

1570
01:15:02,173 --> 01:15:05,692
Speaker 15: almost a hedge against inflation. Almost every act you hold

1571
01:15:05,772 --> 01:15:08,812
Speaker 15: right now is actually the perching power that it's going

1572
01:15:08,893 --> 01:15:13,013
Speaker 15: down because money supplied increasing. So Bitcoin's something that's kind

1573
01:15:13,013 --> 01:15:15,532
Speaker 15: of counteracted that. So you know, if you have a

1574
01:15:15,572 --> 01:15:17,692
Speaker 15: couple percent of your network, for example, and if you're

1575
01:15:17,732 --> 01:15:21,532
Speaker 15: a hedging against it. And for those interested, not that

1576
01:15:21,572 --> 01:15:23,772
Speaker 15: I'm chilling or I have any involment with this company,

1577
01:15:24,013 --> 01:15:25,812
Speaker 15: but there is a company in New Zealand that's an

1578
01:15:25,812 --> 01:15:29,333
Speaker 15: after race king receiver. Unless you allocate some percent of

1579
01:15:29,372 --> 01:15:30,532
Speaker 15: your chum re saver to bitcoin.

1580
01:15:30,732 --> 01:15:33,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you so much for you call Aaron.

1581
01:15:33,372 --> 01:15:36,612
Speaker 2: It's interesting. Here's the sort of the counter There's no

1582
01:15:36,652 --> 01:15:40,333
Speaker 2: way crypto replaces fee. It it's all based on the

1583
01:15:41,013 --> 01:15:43,253
Speaker 2: speculation that will be worth something in the future. Notice

1584
01:15:43,253 --> 01:15:45,133
Speaker 2: how the value of bookcoin was always referred to in

1585
01:15:45,213 --> 01:15:46,732
Speaker 2: terms of American dollars.

1586
01:15:46,933 --> 01:15:48,012
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, good good.

1587
01:15:48,053 --> 01:15:51,293
Speaker 2: So you know that bitcoin is taking over when people

1588
01:15:51,372 --> 01:15:52,852
Speaker 2: no longer compare it to the dollar.

1589
01:15:52,973 --> 01:15:53,253
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1590
01:15:53,253 --> 01:15:55,133
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1591
01:15:55,213 --> 01:15:56,732
Speaker 3: number to call. It is eight to.

1592
01:15:56,812 --> 01:16:01,093
Speaker 1: Three, the issues that affect you, and a bit of

1593
01:16:01,133 --> 01:16:04,693
Speaker 1: fun along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. Afternoons

1594
01:16:04,732 --> 01:16:07,172
Speaker 1: you for twenty twenty four, you talk said.

1595
01:16:06,973 --> 01:16:10,133
Speaker 3: Be good afternoon, five to three.

1596
01:16:10,652 --> 01:16:12,572
Speaker 2: Lots of texts coming through. We've had a great chat

1597
01:16:12,612 --> 01:16:17,053
Speaker 2: on cryptocurrencies and bitcoin, going over one hundred thousand in

1598
01:16:17,093 --> 01:16:20,652
Speaker 2: the States. But it is interesting because you know, I

1599
01:16:20,692 --> 01:16:23,412
Speaker 2: think I think crypto people are Texters because there's thousands

1600
01:16:23,452 --> 01:16:25,173
Speaker 2: and thousands of texts coming through. I mean that we've

1601
01:16:25,213 --> 01:16:27,612
Speaker 2: got full lines as well. But this is a bit

1602
01:16:27,652 --> 01:16:30,092
Speaker 2: more pushback on it. Heard all this before. I remember

1603
01:16:30,133 --> 01:16:32,812
Speaker 2: the futures market thirty years ago. Hear you saying what market?

1604
01:16:32,893 --> 01:16:36,333
Speaker 2: That's from Chris. Crypto people are like vegans. It's like, yeah,

1605
01:16:36,372 --> 01:16:38,452
Speaker 2: I know, vegi's are awesome. I ate them all the time.

1606
01:16:38,652 --> 01:16:41,412
Speaker 2: No need to base your entire personality around Yeah.

1607
01:16:41,492 --> 01:16:44,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, once you're in on crypto, that's all you talk about.

1608
01:16:44,253 --> 01:16:44,452
Speaker 11: Man.

1609
01:16:45,093 --> 01:16:47,652
Speaker 3: And this text from Ryan says, wasn't bitcoin, but my

1610
01:16:47,692 --> 01:16:51,652
Speaker 3: friend turned the Chinese coin Binance from two thousand dollars

1611
01:16:51,732 --> 01:16:55,372
Speaker 3: year wes to form million US dollars and almost crack

1612
01:16:55,452 --> 01:16:57,652
Speaker 3: the market when he hit sell all.

1613
01:16:57,893 --> 01:16:59,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean that's the thing where what I

1614
01:16:59,973 --> 01:17:02,892
Speaker 2: was saying before is what crypto doesn't have. It's not

1615
01:17:03,013 --> 01:17:06,772
Speaker 2: backed up by armies. And that's what that's what currencies have.

1616
01:17:06,933 --> 01:17:09,732
Speaker 2: They're backed up by the four of a government. So

1617
01:17:09,772 --> 01:17:12,253
Speaker 2: you take China for example, and they've done this before.

1618
01:17:12,293 --> 01:17:14,293
Speaker 2: You put your head up too high in China and

1619
01:17:14,293 --> 01:17:17,373
Speaker 2: it's messing with the Chinese Communist Party, you'll you'll disappear

1620
01:17:17,772 --> 01:17:21,412
Speaker 2: or they'll shut down, as they've shut down bitcoin mining. Yeah,

1621
01:17:21,452 --> 01:17:25,093
Speaker 2: you know, so I don't know at any given point,

1622
01:17:25,133 --> 01:17:27,013
Speaker 2: if it goes up against the US government, you're just

1623
01:17:27,053 --> 01:17:28,812
Speaker 2: going to shut it down. That's always that's always a

1624
01:17:28,853 --> 01:17:31,492
Speaker 2: risky because bitcoin doesn't have an army backing it up.

1625
01:17:31,572 --> 01:17:34,652
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

1626
01:17:34,692 --> 01:17:37,372
Speaker 3: to call. Nine two nine two is the text number.

1627
01:17:37,412 --> 01:17:40,173
Speaker 3: Will pick this backup shortly New Sport and weather or

1628
01:17:40,173 --> 01:17:42,173
Speaker 3: on its way. You're listening to Matt and Tyler, Good

1629
01:17:42,173 --> 01:17:43,053
Speaker 3: afternoon and.

1630
01:17:43,133 --> 01:17:44,892
Speaker 2: When now it's the New Zealander of the week.

1631
01:17:45,213 --> 01:17:46,213
Speaker 3: All look forward to that.

1632
01:18:21,452 --> 01:18:25,172
Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon, It's Matt Heathan Taylor Adams

1633
01:18:25,213 --> 01:18:28,812
Speaker 1: Afternoons You for twenty twenty four News Talk ZIBB.

1634
01:18:30,253 --> 01:18:33,612
Speaker 3: Jeday, it's Friday, welcome back into the show seven past

1635
01:18:33,652 --> 01:18:37,053
Speaker 3: three and been having a great discussion about bitcoin and cryptocurrency.

1636
01:18:37,372 --> 01:18:40,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred and eighty ten eighty nineteen nine two

1637
01:18:40,612 --> 01:18:44,053
Speaker 2: is the text number. Bitcoin is now worth over one

1638
01:18:44,173 --> 01:18:47,972
Speaker 2: hundred thousand US dollars, But is it the real deal?

1639
01:18:48,173 --> 01:18:50,932
Speaker 3: Absolutely. We'll get back into your phone calls very shortly,

1640
01:18:50,973 --> 01:18:54,013
Speaker 3: but right now it is seven past.

1641
01:18:53,732 --> 01:19:01,293
Speaker 2: Three News Talk ZIBB. Every Friday on Matt and Tyler

1642
01:19:01,333 --> 01:19:03,852
Speaker 2: afternoons on zb we name the New Zealander of the

1643
01:19:03,893 --> 01:19:06,253
Speaker 2: Week and honor that we bestow on your behalf to

1644
01:19:06,293 --> 01:19:08,772
Speaker 2: a newsmaker who has had an outsized effect on our

1645
01:19:08,812 --> 01:19:11,772
Speaker 2: great and beautiful nation over the previous week. As always,

1646
01:19:11,772 --> 01:19:14,572
Speaker 2: there'll be three nominees, but only one winner. And remember,

1647
01:19:14,692 --> 01:19:17,053
Speaker 2: like the Time magazine Person of the Year, the New

1648
01:19:17,093 --> 01:19:19,692
Speaker 2: Zealand of the Week isn't always an agent of good.

1649
01:19:20,013 --> 01:19:22,093
Speaker 2: The New Zealand of the Week doesn't even have to

1650
01:19:22,133 --> 01:19:26,372
Speaker 2: be a human, but it is always prestigious ass So,

1651
01:19:26,492 --> 01:19:29,573
Speaker 2: without further ado, the nominees for Matt and Tyler Afternoons

1652
01:19:29,572 --> 01:19:33,333
Speaker 2: New Zealand of the Week are nominee one. Also receives

1653
01:19:33,532 --> 01:19:37,412
Speaker 2: the Feel Good Authenticity Award. You smell great, you bring joy.

1654
01:19:37,692 --> 01:19:39,892
Speaker 2: You eventually Wilton die and become a pain in the ass,

1655
01:19:39,933 --> 01:19:42,293
Speaker 2: But in December you are the real deal, the hero

1656
01:19:42,412 --> 01:19:45,133
Speaker 2: of the lounge and how lovely your branches are the

1657
01:19:45,253 --> 01:19:49,572
Speaker 2: humble Kiwi real Christmas Tree. You are nominated for New

1658
01:19:49,652 --> 01:19:55,053
Speaker 2: Zealander of the Week Nominee two, also winner of the

1659
01:19:55,173 --> 01:19:58,492
Speaker 2: No Fear or Favor Award. While everyone else is out

1660
01:19:58,532 --> 01:20:01,213
Speaker 2: helping beach Wales, two Kiwi brothers out for an ice

1661
01:20:01,293 --> 01:20:04,653
Speaker 2: cream flip the script at Korhimaro mad Beach and refloated

1662
01:20:04,692 --> 01:20:08,293
Speaker 2: a seventy kg stranded shark for going above and beyond

1663
01:20:08,492 --> 01:20:13,133
Speaker 2: and refloating a thrashing bronze whaler. Elias and Jack Sergeant,

1664
01:20:13,333 --> 01:20:16,853
Speaker 2: you have been nominated for New Zealander of the Week. Yes, boys,

1665
01:20:16,893 --> 01:20:19,612
Speaker 2: Sadly the shark Diye stopped using nets in the bay

1666
01:20:19,652 --> 01:20:25,053
Speaker 2: Ya bastards and the winner. There can be only one

1667
01:20:26,133 --> 01:20:29,053
Speaker 2: and this week the winner also receives the can't be

1668
01:20:29,053 --> 01:20:31,253
Speaker 2: beaten on a good Day Award. There used to be

1669
01:20:31,293 --> 01:20:34,052
Speaker 2: a lake, then an eighteen fifty five a quake turned

1670
01:20:34,053 --> 01:20:36,812
Speaker 2: you into a swamp. A bit of work from some convicts,

1671
01:20:36,812 --> 01:20:39,333
Speaker 2: and by eighteen sixty eight you became a cricket ground.

1672
01:20:39,612 --> 01:20:42,173
Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety one Martin Crows scored two hundred and

1673
01:20:42,253 --> 01:20:46,052
Speaker 2: ninety nine on you. In twenty fourteen Brendon McCallum scored

1674
01:20:46,093 --> 01:20:48,812
Speaker 2: three hundred and two. You often get a gale force

1675
01:20:48,853 --> 01:20:51,572
Speaker 2: polar suthenly blast up your freckle, but you have also

1676
01:20:51,732 --> 01:20:54,932
Speaker 2: staged some beautiful days and the best cricket this country

1677
01:20:54,973 --> 01:20:58,652
Speaker 2: has ever seen. The Basin Reserve. Jeez, you're looking good today.

1678
01:20:58,772 --> 01:21:02,973
Speaker 2: You are the Matt and Tyler afternoons new Zealander of

1679
01:21:03,013 --> 01:21:10,532
Speaker 2: the week congraduates to the Basin Reserve. Give them a

1680
01:21:10,572 --> 01:21:11,293
Speaker 2: taste of Kiwi.

1681
01:21:11,732 --> 01:21:31,572
Speaker 19: God blessed the odd speed and go the black Caps.

1682
01:21:35,372 --> 01:21:37,013
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, the Tyler Adams.

1683
01:21:37,652 --> 01:21:40,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there you go, and at the Basin Reserve

1684
01:21:40,812 --> 01:21:44,692
Speaker 2: right now, England are two hundred and thirty eight for six,

1685
01:21:45,213 --> 01:21:46,852
Speaker 2: just getting a little bit better because it was getting

1686
01:21:46,893 --> 01:21:49,933
Speaker 2: away from us for a while there. We chose to

1687
01:21:50,013 --> 01:21:54,412
Speaker 2: field and o' walker's bowling very well, so as Matt Henry.

1688
01:21:54,492 --> 01:21:57,213
Speaker 2: So come on, come on the black caps.

1689
01:21:57,492 --> 01:22:00,253
Speaker 3: Oh ten eighty, we're going to pick back up the

1690
01:22:00,253 --> 01:22:04,333
Speaker 3: bitcoin chat. It has just cracked one hundred thousand dollars

1691
01:22:04,532 --> 01:22:06,812
Speaker 3: ye West, which is one hundred and seventy k New

1692
01:22:06,893 --> 01:22:09,932
Speaker 3: Zealand is at the future of currency and money. Are

1693
01:22:09,973 --> 01:22:13,253
Speaker 3: you all in on bitcoin and cryptocurrency? It is bang

1694
01:22:13,333 --> 01:22:18,012
Speaker 3: on ten past three, thirteen past three, we're talking about

1695
01:22:18,013 --> 01:22:21,932
Speaker 3: bitcoin and cryptocurrency on the Bank of Bitcoin hitting record

1696
01:22:22,013 --> 01:22:24,572
Speaker 3: highs of one hundred and seventy thousand dollars New Zealand

1697
01:22:24,612 --> 01:22:25,093
Speaker 3: per coin.

1698
01:22:25,412 --> 01:22:26,732
Speaker 2: Is it the real deal? Is it just going to

1699
01:22:26,772 --> 01:22:28,892
Speaker 2: crash again? Is it going to replace everything? Will your

1700
01:22:28,973 --> 01:22:31,652
Speaker 2: mortgage be worth anything at all in the future if

1701
01:22:31,652 --> 01:22:35,053
Speaker 2: it's in the ye old NZD big questions?

1702
01:22:35,213 --> 01:22:38,293
Speaker 3: Are plenty of texts coming through this One says gay guys.

1703
01:22:38,293 --> 01:22:41,452
Speaker 3: Thanks to bitcoin. I purchased my first house, got it

1704
01:22:41,492 --> 01:22:44,412
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two and sold in March this year,

1705
01:22:44,532 --> 01:22:47,253
Speaker 3: turned five figures into six and managed to get a

1706
01:22:47,253 --> 01:22:50,452
Speaker 3: house deposit. It's the greatest performing asset ever created in

1707
01:22:50,532 --> 01:22:52,452
Speaker 3: terms of returns and that is a fact.

1708
01:22:52,893 --> 01:22:55,492
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, well it worked out for him, Yeah, but

1709
01:22:55,612 --> 01:22:57,972
Speaker 2: you know that's the same thing. I've had some lucky

1710
01:22:57,973 --> 01:23:01,293
Speaker 2: punts that came through, they were good investments, but not

1711
01:23:01,612 --> 01:23:02,093
Speaker 2: every time.

1712
01:23:02,253 --> 01:23:05,333
Speaker 3: Is bitcoin the right horse mark you're involved in bitcoin?

1713
01:23:06,812 --> 01:23:07,333
Speaker 20: Definitely?

1714
01:23:07,412 --> 01:23:07,812
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1715
01:23:08,372 --> 01:23:11,412
Speaker 20: Has anybody talked about the benefits system of the blockchain

1716
01:23:11,492 --> 01:23:12,293
Speaker 20: by itself yet?

1717
01:23:13,013 --> 01:23:15,492
Speaker 3: Well? Carry on?

1718
01:23:16,412 --> 01:23:19,412
Speaker 20: Yeah, so once, Like, in really simple terms, from what

1719
01:23:19,452 --> 01:23:22,813
Speaker 20: I understand, it's basically like a whole network of computers

1720
01:23:22,812 --> 01:23:26,172
Speaker 20: that's not controlled by any boundaries or any one company

1721
01:23:26,492 --> 01:23:30,133
Speaker 20: or anyone corporation. And so the mining process, when you

1722
01:23:30,173 --> 01:23:33,692
Speaker 20: get paid for mining, you're allowing the blockchain to operate

1723
01:23:33,732 --> 01:23:36,652
Speaker 20: on your PC and then you'll reimburst by that. You know,

1724
01:23:36,692 --> 01:23:38,972
Speaker 20: that's how you get paid by being a bitcoorin minor

1725
01:23:39,013 --> 01:23:42,932
Speaker 20: and mining another coin. And so M understand what there

1726
01:23:43,013 --> 01:23:46,612
Speaker 20: means that not one country or company or any particular

1727
01:23:46,692 --> 01:23:50,492
Speaker 20: individual has control over that database, if you like, you know,

1728
01:23:50,532 --> 01:23:52,693
Speaker 20: the sky's the limit for the power of the blockchain.

1729
01:23:53,253 --> 01:23:55,372
Speaker 20: And every day it seems they're coming up with new

1730
01:23:55,532 --> 01:23:59,492
Speaker 20: uses for the blockchain, you know, from putting property titles

1731
01:23:59,532 --> 01:24:02,052
Speaker 20: on there. So you think there's a record that can't

1732
01:24:02,093 --> 01:24:05,053
Speaker 20: be corrupted, and it's completely visible to any anybody on

1733
01:24:05,093 --> 01:24:07,892
Speaker 20: the planet with a PC or a phone, and so

1734
01:24:08,973 --> 01:24:11,492
Speaker 20: you know, EFTs and all that where we're thinking of stiper

1735
01:24:11,572 --> 01:24:14,732
Speaker 20: cats or board yacht club or whatever. It is the

1736
01:24:14,812 --> 01:24:17,972
Speaker 20: real power And you think is like concert tickets where

1737
01:24:18,013 --> 01:24:20,612
Speaker 20: you can release say five thousand of these things one

1738
01:24:20,652 --> 01:24:23,692
Speaker 20: hundred thousand or whatever, and anybody anywhere with a computer

1739
01:24:23,853 --> 01:24:26,173
Speaker 20: or the internet can see that the original one. That's

1740
01:24:26,173 --> 01:24:27,772
Speaker 20: where it came from the net Who owns it?

1741
01:24:27,812 --> 01:24:28,012
Speaker 5: Now?

1742
01:24:28,492 --> 01:24:31,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a fair point, fair point, just on that

1743
01:24:31,933 --> 01:24:33,573
Speaker 3: blockchain or so you carry.

1744
01:24:33,293 --> 01:24:36,532
Speaker 20: On, carry on, yeah, yeah, and you think of property titles.

1745
01:24:37,652 --> 01:24:40,812
Speaker 20: It's approving authenticity. You could have a dairy farmer or

1746
01:24:40,853 --> 01:24:44,732
Speaker 20: somebody selling lamb from Otago puts a barcode on their

1747
01:24:44,853 --> 01:24:47,732
Speaker 20: lamb products and then somebody in Brazil that buys that

1748
01:24:47,893 --> 01:24:50,932
Speaker 20: land can trace it back through the blockchain and see

1749
01:24:50,933 --> 01:24:52,973
Speaker 20: the farm, you know, in a picture of that the

1750
01:24:53,053 --> 01:24:55,213
Speaker 20: land they're eating, you know, just as an example.

1751
01:24:55,492 --> 01:25:01,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, is it completely Is it unforeseeable with you know,

1752
01:25:01,452 --> 01:25:05,213
Speaker 2: advancements and AI and such. Is it completely unforeseeable that

1753
01:25:05,692 --> 01:25:07,052
Speaker 2: the blockchain could be cracked?

1754
01:25:07,853 --> 01:25:10,372
Speaker 20: No, not not so far, not with the technology we have,

1755
01:25:10,452 --> 01:25:14,093
Speaker 20: because it's stored and you know, one hundred million locations

1756
01:25:15,133 --> 01:25:17,333
Speaker 20: and so to crack the blockchain, they'd have to go

1757
01:25:17,372 --> 01:25:20,892
Speaker 20: into every single computer on the chain and try and

1758
01:25:21,013 --> 01:25:23,333
Speaker 20: undo the blocks that have been written and rewrite them

1759
01:25:23,532 --> 01:25:26,492
Speaker 20: with corruption. And nobody figured out how to do that,

1760
01:25:27,133 --> 01:25:30,293
Speaker 20: you know, And so you can just see that once

1761
01:25:30,372 --> 01:25:33,692
Speaker 20: that takes off, and more and more, you know, more

1762
01:25:33,732 --> 01:25:37,253
Speaker 20: and more ways we store information that's one hundred percent transparent,

1763
01:25:37,372 --> 01:25:41,973
Speaker 20: can't be messed with, can't be duplicated or corrupted. You

1764
01:25:41,973 --> 01:25:43,812
Speaker 20: know where we keep coming with crip those which I'm

1765
01:25:43,812 --> 01:25:46,812
Speaker 20: sure we will. You know what you're saying about New Zealand,

1766
01:25:46,812 --> 01:25:48,492
Speaker 20: what hope have we got where you look at El

1767
01:25:48,572 --> 01:25:51,772
Speaker 20: Salvador in countries we have made bitcoin legal tender and

1768
01:25:51,853 --> 01:25:54,013
Speaker 20: everybody was laughing about them doing that, you know, when

1769
01:25:54,053 --> 01:25:57,093
Speaker 20: it was thirty or forty grand a bitcoin. And so

1770
01:25:57,173 --> 01:26:00,692
Speaker 20: the president there gives every one of his citizens a

1771
01:26:00,772 --> 01:26:02,652
Speaker 20: free wallet and says, this is how you do it,

1772
01:26:03,213 --> 01:26:05,052
Speaker 20: you know, and I think he has city dollars US

1773
01:26:05,053 --> 01:26:07,692
Speaker 20: with a bitcoin in the wallet when it started. And

1774
01:26:07,732 --> 01:26:10,293
Speaker 20: so that people contrade just with their phone tap to tap,

1775
01:26:10,772 --> 01:26:12,093
Speaker 20: you know, you can go and buy your hot dog

1776
01:26:12,173 --> 01:26:14,532
Speaker 20: or whatever you want. And you can see now the

1777
01:26:14,532 --> 01:26:19,532
Speaker 20: foresight you had and how they've paid off there there well,

1778
01:26:19,612 --> 01:26:23,892
Speaker 20: being loans and everything else. Really with the appreciation totally right,

1779
01:26:23,933 --> 01:26:26,812
Speaker 20: and you can see more and more doing that. Why

1780
01:26:26,812 --> 01:26:30,692
Speaker 20: would you fight this. Yeah, it's prohibition or something you

1781
01:26:31,452 --> 01:26:32,372
Speaker 20: get on board, but.

1782
01:26:32,372 --> 01:26:35,012
Speaker 2: What is that? So they do that? But could could

1783
01:26:35,372 --> 01:26:37,452
Speaker 2: if every country does that, then aren't we in a

1784
01:26:37,492 --> 01:26:42,172
Speaker 2: position where the wealth of our country is not controlled

1785
01:26:42,173 --> 01:26:44,253
Speaker 2: by our country? You know what I'm saying. The wealth

1786
01:26:44,253 --> 01:26:48,012
Speaker 2: of your country is controlled globally. And that's a problem

1787
01:26:48,013 --> 01:26:49,692
Speaker 2: when you want to when you want to run a

1788
01:26:49,692 --> 01:26:51,893
Speaker 2: fiscal policy within a country.

1789
01:26:52,093 --> 01:26:54,133
Speaker 20: And at the moment you could say our wealth is

1790
01:26:54,133 --> 01:26:56,173
Speaker 20: controlled by the womens of the US, which is the

1791
01:26:56,213 --> 01:27:00,572
Speaker 20: reserve bank, international currency, and who's leading that country, you know,

1792
01:27:00,652 --> 01:27:02,572
Speaker 20: and who's got the biggest army and everything else.

1793
01:27:02,612 --> 01:27:03,293
Speaker 5: So whatever you do.

1794
01:27:04,293 --> 01:27:07,732
Speaker 20: So that's where you get the philosophical debates. I guess

1795
01:27:07,812 --> 01:27:11,293
Speaker 20: around out of display, is it better for us? You know,

1796
01:27:11,293 --> 01:27:14,652
Speaker 20: when it's international it's no one corporational company. And the

1797
01:27:14,652 --> 01:27:16,572
Speaker 20: whole thing about Ski City and even just the think

1798
01:27:16,612 --> 01:27:19,133
Speaker 20: we have these conversations now when you think of our

1799
01:27:19,253 --> 01:27:23,852
Speaker 20: last finance minister and reserved being governor called add as

1800
01:27:23,933 --> 01:27:26,812
Speaker 20: much as half of their whole one year, you know,

1801
01:27:26,933 --> 01:27:32,652
Speaker 20: GDP and printed money and borrowed money. Yeah, the for

1802
01:27:32,692 --> 01:27:35,612
Speaker 20: me was that inflation isn't prices going up. Inflation is

1803
01:27:35,612 --> 01:27:37,013
Speaker 20: the value of your dollar year.

1804
01:27:37,853 --> 01:27:42,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the inflation that that is the you could

1805
01:27:42,893 --> 01:27:45,772
Speaker 2: you can have savings and so you can have some money,

1806
01:27:46,133 --> 01:27:48,173
Speaker 2: but that money can just be changed and value by

1807
01:27:48,173 --> 01:27:50,692
Speaker 2: the government at a whim for whatever they want to do.

1808
01:27:51,253 --> 01:27:55,012
Speaker 18: And that is experience times in Germany, you know, after

1809
01:27:55,053 --> 01:27:58,572
Speaker 18: the Second World War, with you know, millions and also

1810
01:27:59,492 --> 01:28:02,812
Speaker 18: lots of places we've seen inflacing go rempant and then we.

1811
01:28:02,772 --> 01:28:05,652
Speaker 2: Look at we look at angry. Some people are at

1812
01:28:05,612 --> 01:28:08,892
Speaker 2: Adrian or at the moment because with the c and

1813
01:28:08,933 --> 01:28:13,892
Speaker 2: the management coming out of inflation and when those decisions

1814
01:28:13,893 --> 01:28:17,692
Speaker 2: were made have had an absolutely punishing effect on the

1815
01:28:17,732 --> 01:28:21,372
Speaker 2: wealth of our nation. So yeah, you're absolutely right. We

1816
01:28:22,133 --> 01:28:25,372
Speaker 2: worry about things like bitcoin and cryptocurrency, but it's not

1817
01:28:25,492 --> 01:28:29,652
Speaker 2: like our system isn't without its variables as it is.

1818
01:28:30,532 --> 01:28:33,053
Speaker 20: Totally and it's probably much safer to be power for

1819
01:28:33,093 --> 01:28:33,932
Speaker 20: global reserve.

1820
01:28:34,253 --> 01:28:37,092
Speaker 3: But just on that point about a protection against inflation,

1821
01:28:37,253 --> 01:28:40,293
Speaker 3: that wasn't the case when most of the wild face

1822
01:28:40,372 --> 01:28:42,772
Speaker 3: some pretty serious inflation wasn't mark. We all saw the

1823
01:28:42,812 --> 01:28:46,372
Speaker 3: price of crypto and bitcoin go down along with the

1824
01:28:46,412 --> 01:28:49,013
Speaker 3: rest of the stock market. And arguably the reason it's

1825
01:28:49,053 --> 01:28:51,093
Speaker 3: going up is because we've got a ball market at

1826
01:28:51,093 --> 01:28:52,892
Speaker 3: the moment because Donald Trump's been re elected.

1827
01:28:54,013 --> 01:28:57,892
Speaker 20: And I think it's also people just you know, insist

1828
01:28:57,973 --> 01:29:01,252
Speaker 20: too much, but people realizing, you know, when MB players

1829
01:29:01,372 --> 01:29:05,372
Speaker 20: and high fliers get paid in crypto because they recognize

1830
01:29:05,412 --> 01:29:08,812
Speaker 20: their own feat currency isn't worth or held at the

1831
01:29:08,812 --> 01:29:12,972
Speaker 20: women and we is governing, you know, that they want

1832
01:29:13,013 --> 01:29:16,133
Speaker 20: to be paid in something else that isn't there's any

1833
01:29:16,772 --> 01:29:18,933
Speaker 20: million of these things, is not as every millionaire in

1834
01:29:18,973 --> 01:29:22,052
Speaker 20: the world the have half or a tenth of one. Interesting,

1835
01:29:22,173 --> 01:29:24,572
Speaker 20: you know, can't you do any currency you can name

1836
01:29:25,093 --> 01:29:28,253
Speaker 20: where they didn't just print and pre increase and drive

1837
01:29:28,293 --> 01:29:30,492
Speaker 20: down the value of their pachasing care and everything else.

1838
01:29:31,173 --> 01:29:33,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you so much to be call Mark I.

1839
01:29:33,612 --> 01:29:36,293
Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number of call.

1840
01:29:36,293 --> 01:29:39,092
Speaker 3: Will pick this back up very shortly. It is twenty

1841
01:29:39,213 --> 01:29:47,852
Speaker 3: past three.

1842
01:29:44,812 --> 01:29:48,213
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons. Call oh, eight hundred

1843
01:29:48,253 --> 01:29:50,372
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk ZB.

1844
01:29:50,572 --> 01:29:52,532
Speaker 3: Good afternoon. It is twenty three past three.

1845
01:29:52,652 --> 01:29:54,972
Speaker 2: Somebody texts coming through nine two niney two and calls

1846
01:29:54,973 --> 01:29:59,373
Speaker 2: on E one hundred and eighty ten eighty on bitcoin

1847
01:29:59,492 --> 01:30:02,812
Speaker 2: going over a one hundred thousand US. As someone pointed

1848
01:30:02,812 --> 01:30:05,212
Speaker 2: out before, it is interesting that we talk about bitcoin

1849
01:30:05,293 --> 01:30:07,133
Speaker 2: being a revolution, but it's not there yet because we

1850
01:30:07,213 --> 01:30:10,213
Speaker 2: are The topic is based on how it's valued in

1851
01:30:10,372 --> 01:30:14,492
Speaker 2: US dollars. The bitcoin discussion is interesting, but you haven't

1852
01:30:14,532 --> 01:30:16,252
Speaker 2: mentioned that the profit is taxable.

1853
01:30:16,532 --> 01:30:16,732
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1854
01:30:16,772 --> 01:30:18,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean that's the thing for a country

1855
01:30:18,973 --> 01:30:21,852
Speaker 2: to work, whatever financial system you got going on, it

1856
01:30:21,893 --> 01:30:24,253
Speaker 2: has to be taxable. Either that or we all have

1857
01:30:24,333 --> 01:30:27,492
Speaker 2: to live in gated communities with armed guards at the

1858
01:30:28,532 --> 01:30:29,132
Speaker 2: at the gates.

1859
01:30:29,173 --> 01:30:31,652
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Greg, how are you this afternoon?

1860
01:30:32,333 --> 01:30:33,133
Speaker 5: I'm good? Thanks?

1861
01:30:33,133 --> 01:30:34,173
Speaker 2: How are you good?

1862
01:30:34,452 --> 01:30:34,612
Speaker 5: Now?

1863
01:30:34,612 --> 01:30:36,572
Speaker 3: You want to have a change a blackcoin? Gold and silver?

1864
01:30:37,732 --> 01:30:40,092
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Look, I heard you mentioned before that gold's

1865
01:30:40,133 --> 01:30:42,492
Speaker 5: just the shiny rock. And first of all, what I'll

1866
01:30:42,492 --> 01:30:44,972
Speaker 5: say is I'm not opposed to bitcoin. I've just sold

1867
01:30:44,973 --> 01:30:49,732
Speaker 5: my bitcoin because it's gone so high. But gold is

1868
01:30:49,772 --> 01:30:53,093
Speaker 5: far more than just a shiny Rockta. There is no blockchain,

1869
01:30:53,492 --> 01:30:57,333
Speaker 5: and there is no bitcoin or digital currency without gold

1870
01:30:57,372 --> 01:31:00,772
Speaker 5: and silver. The blockchain relies on gold and silver to exist.

1871
01:31:02,412 --> 01:31:05,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, no, My point wasn't that. My point

1872
01:31:05,293 --> 01:31:07,852
Speaker 2: was that nothing has intrinsic value, and this human beings

1873
01:31:07,893 --> 01:31:11,333
Speaker 2: put it on. So gold is a shiny metal that

1874
01:31:11,372 --> 01:31:14,173
Speaker 2: we've decided as valueable, but it can't actually do anything

1875
01:31:14,293 --> 01:31:16,572
Speaker 2: for it. You can't actually do anything for us. I'm

1876
01:31:16,612 --> 01:31:19,692
Speaker 2: looking at a deeper philosophical level. It used to be shells.

1877
01:31:20,333 --> 01:31:22,133
Speaker 2: It used to be shells that it shekels, and then

1878
01:31:22,173 --> 01:31:24,932
Speaker 2: it was whatever it's been. So it's really all I'm

1879
01:31:24,933 --> 01:31:27,492
Speaker 2: saying is that it has no value in this we

1880
01:31:27,772 --> 01:31:30,253
Speaker 2: as we decide it has value. If there was some

1881
01:31:30,333 --> 01:31:32,293
Speaker 2: kind of apocalypse, there wouldn't be much you could do

1882
01:31:32,333 --> 01:31:32,812
Speaker 2: with the gold.

1883
01:31:35,173 --> 01:31:39,492
Speaker 5: You're still there, Oh sorry, I'll butt you cut me off. No,

1884
01:31:39,732 --> 01:31:43,492
Speaker 5: how about you google the industrial and medical uses of

1885
01:31:43,572 --> 01:31:45,812
Speaker 5: gold and see how many there are, because there's quite

1886
01:31:45,853 --> 01:31:46,173
Speaker 5: a few.

1887
01:31:46,412 --> 01:31:48,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's actually quite a few. But that's not that's

1888
01:31:48,253 --> 01:31:49,412
Speaker 2: not where its value is held.

1889
01:31:50,093 --> 01:31:53,093
Speaker 5: All your peripheral electronics in your computer all have gold

1890
01:31:53,093 --> 01:31:56,972
Speaker 5: connections the boulder, and your electronics that comes from silber.

1891
01:31:58,213 --> 01:32:01,692
Speaker 2: But but if you invest into gold, then then you're

1892
01:32:01,732 --> 01:32:04,132
Speaker 2: investing in blocks of gold that you put away against

1893
01:32:04,572 --> 01:32:07,892
Speaker 2: against the stock market, against the crashes, you know, against

1894
01:32:07,893 --> 01:32:09,253
Speaker 2: turbulent times. Am I right?

1895
01:32:09,732 --> 01:32:12,173
Speaker 5: Gold? Gold? You need to look at it in the

1896
01:32:12,213 --> 01:32:15,013
Speaker 5: correct light. Gold is Some people might think of it

1897
01:32:15,053 --> 01:32:17,492
Speaker 5: as an investment, but I think of it more of

1898
01:32:17,532 --> 01:32:21,333
Speaker 5: an insurance because gold always performs in silver and all

1899
01:32:21,333 --> 01:32:24,812
Speaker 5: the precious metals always perform well in times of high inflation.

1900
01:32:25,013 --> 01:32:28,732
Speaker 5: And we've just seen that, Like I brought silver back

1901
01:32:29,253 --> 01:32:34,652
Speaker 5: not long after COVID at like thirty two dollars New Zealand. Well,

1902
01:32:34,692 --> 01:32:37,692
Speaker 5: I just sold it the other week, money in my

1903
01:32:38,492 --> 01:32:42,013
Speaker 5: account in twenty four hours and the spot price at

1904
01:32:42,053 --> 01:32:43,412
Speaker 5: the moment is fifty two dollars.

1905
01:32:44,732 --> 01:32:46,732
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's no doubt.

1906
01:32:46,732 --> 01:32:47,412
Speaker 7: I did well.

1907
01:32:47,452 --> 01:32:51,452
Speaker 5: But I'm not saying that gold and silver are, you know,

1908
01:32:51,452 --> 01:32:55,292
Speaker 5: a way to make money. They're an insurance policy against inflation.

1909
01:32:55,772 --> 01:32:59,893
Speaker 5: But they're also very important industrial metals. Silver in particular

1910
01:33:00,333 --> 01:33:05,372
Speaker 5: is very unique. Okay, So without silver, you don't have

1911
01:33:05,372 --> 01:33:10,812
Speaker 5: any electrical connections because every slit as silver on the tips,

1912
01:33:10,853 --> 01:33:14,772
Speaker 5: because silver present prevents arching an election.

1913
01:33:15,333 --> 01:33:19,732
Speaker 2: But the trade and gold against inflation, as you're talking about,

1914
01:33:19,853 --> 01:33:24,732
Speaker 2: isn't gold is a commodity. It's it's it's it's storing

1915
01:33:24,812 --> 01:33:28,732
Speaker 2: gold against inflation. And that that comes from a perception

1916
01:33:29,093 --> 01:33:31,052
Speaker 2: and and all I'm saying, all I was really saying

1917
01:33:31,133 --> 01:33:34,572
Speaker 2: is the wider point of what we attribute value to.

1918
01:33:35,093 --> 01:33:39,453
Speaker 2: And so we currently attribute value to our current monetary system.

1919
01:33:39,612 --> 01:33:41,652
Speaker 2: But there's no reason why that can't change if we

1920
01:33:41,692 --> 01:33:43,492
Speaker 2: all agree, If we all agree to change it, we

1921
01:33:43,893 --> 01:33:47,053
Speaker 2: if we're or whatever the forces of culture agree to

1922
01:33:47,133 --> 01:33:49,452
Speaker 2: change it, then it changes. That's that's and it has

1923
01:33:49,492 --> 01:33:51,412
Speaker 2: many times before in the past. I mean, gold has

1924
01:33:51,452 --> 01:33:54,172
Speaker 2: had a really great run and it's the most solid

1925
01:33:54,652 --> 01:33:58,253
Speaker 2: over time. But but but that can change.

1926
01:33:58,372 --> 01:34:00,253
Speaker 5: You've hit the nail on the head. It's a store

1927
01:34:00,293 --> 01:34:03,372
Speaker 5: of value. Now bitcoin, let me let me boil down

1928
01:34:03,412 --> 01:34:07,492
Speaker 5: bitcoin for you in a in a very short statement. Okay, well,

1929
01:34:07,732 --> 01:34:12,253
Speaker 5: I call it the decentralized lie. Okay, only only the

1930
01:34:12,333 --> 01:34:17,933
Speaker 5: computations for the blockchain are decentralized, not the exchanges. So

1931
01:34:18,013 --> 01:34:20,492
Speaker 5: if you think, if you think you're getting around government regulation,

1932
01:34:20,853 --> 01:34:24,492
Speaker 5: tell me where's an exchange located that doesn't have to

1933
01:34:24,572 --> 01:34:26,012
Speaker 5: apply by the local laws.

1934
01:34:26,173 --> 01:34:28,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can get around that with cold wallets, though,

1935
01:34:28,652 --> 01:34:32,492
Speaker 3: can't you. Greek Wallet's off. An exchange is a store of.

1936
01:34:33,093 --> 01:34:36,012
Speaker 5: To you can you can you can buy and purchase

1937
01:34:36,053 --> 01:34:38,133
Speaker 5: of somebody as willing to take the bitcoin directly, but

1938
01:34:38,173 --> 01:34:40,972
Speaker 5: if you want to turn that into into a fiat

1939
01:34:41,053 --> 01:34:43,293
Speaker 5: currency that we use to buy our milk and bread,

1940
01:34:43,333 --> 01:34:44,573
Speaker 5: you have to go through an exchange.

1941
01:34:46,053 --> 01:34:48,612
Speaker 2: But I guess there's people are postulating a future where

1942
01:34:48,612 --> 01:34:51,253
Speaker 2: that isn't the case. Where people because as I said before,

1943
01:34:51,333 --> 01:34:53,532
Speaker 2: right now we're comparing the value to the US dollar

1944
01:34:53,812 --> 01:34:57,293
Speaker 2: as bitcoin goes up, but people are envisiting a future

1945
01:34:57,333 --> 01:34:59,692
Speaker 2: where that's not the case, and it's just bitcoin is

1946
01:34:59,973 --> 01:35:00,612
Speaker 2: the currency.

1947
01:35:01,612 --> 01:35:04,092
Speaker 5: Okay, if we want to talk about the future, let's

1948
01:35:04,133 --> 01:35:09,572
Speaker 5: pretend for a second that the war in Ukraine escalates. Okay,

1949
01:35:11,612 --> 01:35:15,572
Speaker 5: most nuclear powers have e MP weapons, and e MP

1950
01:35:15,732 --> 01:35:19,012
Speaker 5: weapons they can fly them the length of a continent

1951
01:35:19,293 --> 01:35:22,293
Speaker 5: and fry the whole electric grid. But tell me, if

1952
01:35:22,293 --> 01:35:24,572
Speaker 5: that wants to happen, how are you going to access

1953
01:35:24,612 --> 01:35:25,172
Speaker 5: your bitcoin?

1954
01:35:25,973 --> 01:35:29,333
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean absolutely, I mean if that, if that

1955
01:35:29,492 --> 01:35:31,333
Speaker 2: was to happen, I think we're all buggeed.

1956
01:35:31,333 --> 01:35:33,732
Speaker 3: Really, Greg, it doesn't matter what sort of currency with good.

1957
01:35:33,572 --> 01:35:35,133
Speaker 2: But do you think do you think of that kind

1958
01:35:35,173 --> 01:35:37,253
Speaker 2: of thing happens, do you think you know I was

1959
01:35:37,253 --> 01:35:39,572
Speaker 2: talking before, and this is getting pretty dark, But in

1960
01:35:39,612 --> 01:35:44,412
Speaker 2: the case of a full societal breakdown apocalyptic situation. Do

1961
01:35:44,452 --> 01:35:47,253
Speaker 2: you think your stores of gold will be available to

1962
01:35:47,333 --> 01:35:49,772
Speaker 2: you and worth something because you don't have the gold

1963
01:35:49,812 --> 01:35:50,372
Speaker 2: in your house?

1964
01:35:50,412 --> 01:35:50,652
Speaker 5: Do you?

1965
01:35:52,452 --> 01:35:52,612
Speaker 7: Well?

1966
01:35:52,652 --> 01:35:55,972
Speaker 5: Actually I do. Okay, there's a will, there's a roll

1967
01:35:56,053 --> 01:35:58,412
Speaker 5: with stackers. If you don't hold it, you don't own it.

1968
01:35:58,532 --> 01:36:00,852
Speaker 2: Yeah right, okay, So that's difference.

1969
01:36:01,013 --> 01:36:04,773
Speaker 5: My quarter outs Britannia's coin in a time of apocalypse

1970
01:36:04,812 --> 01:36:08,333
Speaker 5: because because it's an industrial metal like silver, I gallant

1971
01:36:08,372 --> 01:36:10,532
Speaker 5: see I'll be able to swap that for ten chickens

1972
01:36:10,532 --> 01:36:10,932
Speaker 5: and a cow.

1973
01:36:11,812 --> 01:36:15,133
Speaker 2: I thought you probably will be able to as well. Yeah,

1974
01:36:15,173 --> 01:36:17,013
Speaker 2: but you really ruined my point when I say it.

1975
01:36:17,173 --> 01:36:18,532
Speaker 2: My point was that you didn't have it on you,

1976
01:36:18,612 --> 01:36:20,972
Speaker 2: but you ruined that by having it on you. I

1977
01:36:21,013 --> 01:36:22,572
Speaker 2: was going to say that you're still having to use

1978
01:36:22,652 --> 01:36:24,933
Speaker 2: that exect to access it.

1979
01:36:25,053 --> 01:36:28,333
Speaker 5: I don't keep it in my pocket. Another point, if

1980
01:36:28,372 --> 01:36:31,173
Speaker 5: you're going to get married, right and you present your

1981
01:36:31,253 --> 01:36:35,293
Speaker 5: fiance with a bitcoin ring with a gold ring, what's

1982
01:36:35,333 --> 01:36:35,732
Speaker 5: he going to.

1983
01:36:35,772 --> 01:36:38,492
Speaker 2: Say, Well, i'll tell you what. I'll tell you what mate.

1984
01:36:38,973 --> 01:36:42,293
Speaker 2: My Greg, a good friend of mine, bought a house

1985
01:36:42,732 --> 01:36:46,052
Speaker 2: and he found hundreds of thousands of dollars of gold

1986
01:36:46,173 --> 01:36:50,572
Speaker 2: in the garret no, kidd, it was. It was a

1987
01:36:50,612 --> 01:36:52,572
Speaker 2: deceased estate that when in the air, so it didn't

1988
01:36:52,572 --> 01:36:56,852
Speaker 2: belong to anyone. So he found this gold, which was

1989
01:36:56,933 --> 01:36:58,253
Speaker 2: very helpful for paying off his mortgage.

1990
01:36:59,372 --> 01:37:01,732
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I don't keep my gold in my pocket.

1991
01:37:01,772 --> 01:37:03,732
Speaker 5: I have a very good hiding place for it. So

1992
01:37:04,293 --> 01:37:08,213
Speaker 5: you know, gold, golden, gold and silver have very little

1993
01:37:08,333 --> 01:37:11,692
Speaker 5: third party counterests. Fair enough, Bitcoin and bank.

1994
01:37:12,093 --> 01:37:14,013
Speaker 3: And now you've told New Zealand that their gold's in

1995
01:37:14,013 --> 01:37:16,053
Speaker 3: your house, Greg, you might want to move that. Get

1996
01:37:16,133 --> 01:37:17,412
Speaker 3: somewhere safe, mate.

1997
01:37:18,452 --> 01:37:19,732
Speaker 5: I can tell you where my house was.

1998
01:37:19,853 --> 01:37:20,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, good.

1999
01:37:20,692 --> 01:37:22,452
Speaker 2: That would be stupid. That would be stupid of you.

2000
01:37:22,572 --> 01:37:24,612
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what. I'll give you a clue. It's

2001
01:37:24,612 --> 01:37:26,012
Speaker 5: in the art end of nowhere.

2002
01:37:27,893 --> 01:37:30,133
Speaker 2: Well that's a safety place to be in the apocalypse

2003
01:37:30,133 --> 01:37:32,612
Speaker 2: as well. Good stuff, Greg, Thanks so much for you call.

2004
01:37:32,612 --> 01:37:33,372
Speaker 2: Thanks for you insights.

2005
01:37:33,452 --> 01:37:35,972
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty wave. Time

2006
01:37:35,973 --> 01:37:37,732
Speaker 3: for another couple of calls on this one. It is

2007
01:37:37,812 --> 01:37:39,412
Speaker 3: bang on three thirty.

2008
01:37:42,452 --> 01:37:44,772
Speaker 2: You've talk'd be headlines.

2009
01:37:44,253 --> 01:37:45,693
Speaker 4: With blue Bubble taxis.

2010
01:37:45,772 --> 01:37:47,572
Speaker 2: It's no trouble with a Blue Bubble.

2011
01:37:48,013 --> 01:37:51,413
Speaker 4: There's no present threat to Castle Hill from the uncontained

2012
01:37:51,452 --> 01:37:55,092
Speaker 4: nine hundred and eighty hectare fire burning in the southern Alps,

2013
01:37:55,372 --> 01:37:59,372
Speaker 4: with hopes improving weather will help firefighters. Fire and Emergency

2014
01:37:59,412 --> 01:38:02,532
Speaker 4: says one wilderness hut has been lost and they've walked

2015
01:38:02,572 --> 01:38:07,372
Speaker 4: locals through precautions in case of flare ups. Emergency services

2016
01:38:07,412 --> 01:38:10,253
Speaker 4: say there appear to be serious injuries after a two

2017
01:38:10,372 --> 01:38:14,173
Speaker 4: vehicle crash about two point thirty on christ Church's Blenham.

2018
01:38:13,812 --> 01:38:16,132
Speaker 2: Road and Sockburn. The roads closed.

2019
01:38:17,133 --> 01:38:21,092
Speaker 4: Dronger Tambadikey bosses aren't answering whether the Bootcamp bill should

2020
01:38:21,133 --> 01:38:24,812
Speaker 4: pass before the ongoing pilot program can be assessed, but

2021
01:38:24,893 --> 01:38:28,253
Speaker 4: say OT supports the government of the day. Two of

2022
01:38:28,293 --> 01:38:31,932
Speaker 4: the pilot's nine participants are missing and two have faced arrest,

2023
01:38:32,173 --> 01:38:37,093
Speaker 4: although charges were withdrawn for one. The Breast Cancer Foundation

2024
01:38:37,372 --> 01:38:41,213
Speaker 4: is overjoyed farmac's funding the game changing one to drug

2025
01:38:41,333 --> 01:38:45,173
Speaker 4: and her two. It greatly increases how long her too

2026
01:38:45,253 --> 01:38:50,372
Speaker 4: positive advanced breast cancer is held at bay seven phrases

2027
01:38:50,532 --> 01:38:54,652
Speaker 4: experts wish Kiwis would ditch at meal times. You can

2028
01:38:54,692 --> 01:38:57,253
Speaker 4: find out more at Ens and Herald Premium. Now back

2029
01:38:57,293 --> 01:38:58,732
Speaker 4: to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

2030
01:38:59,013 --> 01:39:01,532
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen. We've been talking about bitcoin

2031
01:39:01,572 --> 01:39:04,133
Speaker 3: on the back of it hitting historic highs of one

2032
01:39:04,173 --> 01:39:07,572
Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars US and had some great phone calls

2033
01:39:08,372 --> 01:39:12,933
Speaker 3: on whether you're all in on bitcoin? Text nine to

2034
01:39:13,213 --> 01:39:16,652
Speaker 3: ninety two coming through as well. We'll get to chock,

2035
01:39:16,692 --> 01:39:19,053
Speaker 3: get a choky.

2036
01:39:19,173 --> 01:39:19,572
Speaker 7: How are you?

2037
01:39:19,772 --> 01:39:19,972
Speaker 11: Yeah?

2038
01:39:20,013 --> 01:39:20,213
Speaker 5: Good?

2039
01:39:20,253 --> 01:39:22,133
Speaker 3: And you've been in bitcoin for eight years?

2040
01:39:23,452 --> 01:39:26,133
Speaker 7: Eight years, broke the highs and lows. I've been through

2041
01:39:26,133 --> 01:39:30,173
Speaker 7: it all. Everything you can think of, ripped off, robbed, scammed,

2042
01:39:31,053 --> 01:39:33,293
Speaker 7: made money, paid for a ton of tax I've done

2043
01:39:33,333 --> 01:39:38,012
Speaker 7: it all. Man move countries. I lived the bitcoin life.

2044
01:39:38,933 --> 01:39:42,133
Speaker 2: And if you held on to your bitcoin predominantly through

2045
01:39:42,133 --> 01:39:44,013
Speaker 2: the ups and downs, or when you say you've been

2046
01:39:44,133 --> 01:39:46,572
Speaker 2: robbed and up, up and down, you've been in and out,

2047
01:39:46,612 --> 01:39:48,772
Speaker 2: you've bought, cashed out and then brought back in.

2048
01:39:50,812 --> 01:39:53,492
Speaker 7: Well I got rid of bitcoin many years ago. It's

2049
01:39:53,532 --> 01:39:55,692
Speaker 7: a slow mover for me. I'm in the olts and

2050
01:39:55,933 --> 01:40:02,053
Speaker 7: means predominantly. But but if I wanted to say one

2051
01:40:02,053 --> 01:40:04,652
Speaker 7: thing to people listening, because I don't, I think there's

2052
01:40:04,652 --> 01:40:07,652
Speaker 7: only one, really one reason to get into crypto, and

2053
01:40:07,692 --> 01:40:10,852
Speaker 7: that's to make my There's no other reason technology. All

2054
01:40:10,893 --> 01:40:13,213
Speaker 7: that stuff. I mean, it's interesting, but it'll do your

2055
01:40:13,253 --> 01:40:15,812
Speaker 7: head in. Yeah, the only thing to do, and this

2056
01:40:15,893 --> 01:40:17,772
Speaker 7: game is to make money. Money is a game. You've

2057
01:40:17,772 --> 01:40:21,293
Speaker 7: got to play the game. I've played it. And the

2058
01:40:21,333 --> 01:40:23,173
Speaker 7: only thing that will get you undone in this game

2059
01:40:23,333 --> 01:40:26,812
Speaker 7: is not crypto. It is your own greed. Your own greed.

2060
01:40:26,812 --> 01:40:27,333
Speaker 7: Will do you win?

2061
01:40:29,372 --> 01:40:30,412
Speaker 2: And did your own greed?

2062
01:40:30,492 --> 01:40:30,932
Speaker 16: Do you win?

2063
01:40:32,412 --> 01:40:32,572
Speaker 5: Oh?

2064
01:40:32,652 --> 01:40:35,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know the hard one And what do

2065
01:40:35,652 --> 01:40:37,492
Speaker 2: you mean by your own hard lessons? But I know

2066
01:40:37,652 --> 01:40:39,333
Speaker 2: what do you mean? Your own your own greed?

2067
01:40:39,772 --> 01:40:44,133
Speaker 7: Specifically, we'll say, for example, when people are saying, oh,

2068
01:40:44,173 --> 01:40:47,852
Speaker 7: Bitcoin's going to go to twenty fifty thousand US. Most

2069
01:40:48,013 --> 01:40:50,093
Speaker 7: likely you won't go to twenty fifty thousand, but you'll

2070
01:40:50,133 --> 01:40:52,093
Speaker 7: hang on for that two fifty Or you're going on

2071
01:40:52,253 --> 01:40:54,772
Speaker 7: for that life changing money. I need a million dollars

2072
01:40:54,812 --> 01:40:57,452
Speaker 7: to change my life out of New zealand hang on

2073
01:40:57,532 --> 01:40:59,052
Speaker 7: for that. But it won't make a million. It probably

2074
01:40:59,093 --> 01:41:01,333
Speaker 7: make nine hundred, But you'll hang on for that extra

2075
01:41:01,412 --> 01:41:04,333
Speaker 7: hundred k and you won't make it, And then the

2076
01:41:04,412 --> 01:41:07,812
Speaker 7: market will dump underneath you about forty percent, and you

2077
01:41:07,853 --> 01:41:10,492
Speaker 7: will go, no, no, no, it's going to come back,

2078
01:41:10,572 --> 01:41:13,012
Speaker 7: and it will. It'll bounce back up another fifty percent

2079
01:41:13,013 --> 01:41:15,893
Speaker 7: from there, and it'll dumb even harder, and it'll go

2080
01:41:15,933 --> 01:41:18,093
Speaker 7: down ninety percent the all time high.

2081
01:41:18,293 --> 01:41:20,572
Speaker 3: Did you'll be stuck? Did you branch that too long?

2082
01:41:20,692 --> 01:41:23,293
Speaker 3: Did you branch out into other crypto coins because you

2083
01:41:23,333 --> 01:41:25,213
Speaker 3: thought that was going to be a better bit than bitcoin?

2084
01:41:26,973 --> 01:41:29,852
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's where I stay right now. I'm just mostly

2085
01:41:29,933 --> 01:41:30,932
Speaker 7: means and odds.

2086
01:41:31,333 --> 01:41:33,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think one of the things where

2087
01:41:33,053 --> 01:41:33,852
Speaker 2: crypto is.

2088
01:41:33,732 --> 01:41:38,812
Speaker 7: Maybe crypto, maybe bitcoin goes to let's say conservative lived

2089
01:41:39,013 --> 01:41:42,372
Speaker 7: conservatively one hundred and fifty thousand US. Let's say that's

2090
01:41:42,372 --> 01:41:44,253
Speaker 7: where it goes. Maybe it goes high, maybe it don't

2091
01:41:44,333 --> 01:41:46,053
Speaker 7: takes one to any I don't know. I don't know.

2092
01:41:46,093 --> 01:41:48,213
Speaker 7: I don't I don't try to speculate. And I think

2093
01:41:48,253 --> 01:41:50,572
Speaker 7: when people have a number in the head where something's going,

2094
01:41:50,933 --> 01:41:52,852
Speaker 7: that's what's going to get you undone because you hang

2095
01:41:52,893 --> 01:41:54,652
Speaker 7: on to that number and you wait for that number,

2096
01:41:54,973 --> 01:41:56,692
Speaker 7: and if you don't make that number, that's where the

2097
01:41:56,692 --> 01:41:58,053
Speaker 7: market drops out from underneath you.

2098
01:41:58,213 --> 01:42:00,092
Speaker 2: But what if that's a realistic number and you actually

2099
01:42:00,133 --> 01:42:02,852
Speaker 2: stick to it, so you've got a realistic number. I'm

2100
01:42:02,893 --> 01:42:04,973
Speaker 2: on this for this, and you get to it and

2101
01:42:05,013 --> 01:42:06,053
Speaker 2: you get out, haven't you won?

2102
01:42:06,133 --> 01:42:06,293
Speaker 5: Then?

2103
01:42:06,492 --> 01:42:09,652
Speaker 2: And whatever happens after that, that would that was never

2104
01:42:09,812 --> 01:42:11,412
Speaker 2: on the cards because you were going to get out

2105
01:42:11,452 --> 01:42:13,412
Speaker 2: at that point. Surely that's a good way to run it.

2106
01:42:13,452 --> 01:42:14,933
Speaker 2: You go, well, I need this money to do this,

2107
01:42:15,013 --> 01:42:16,572
Speaker 2: and I'll stay until that and then I'm out.

2108
01:42:18,133 --> 01:42:21,772
Speaker 7: Yeah. I agree with what you're saying, but respectfully, there

2109
01:42:21,853 --> 01:42:24,293
Speaker 7: is no such thing as a realistic number. You have

2110
01:42:24,372 --> 01:42:28,172
Speaker 7: no idea what is possible. You have no idea this market.

2111
01:42:28,452 --> 01:42:30,812
Speaker 7: The market is designed to pool most of the people

2112
01:42:30,893 --> 01:42:31,532
Speaker 7: most of the time.

2113
01:42:32,732 --> 01:42:34,372
Speaker 3: Nicely, thank you so much for your call.

2114
01:42:34,452 --> 01:42:34,652
Speaker 5: Chock.

2115
01:42:35,853 --> 01:42:37,732
Speaker 3: One final text to wrap this one up.

2116
01:42:37,853 --> 01:42:40,052
Speaker 2: I'm in my fifties and a female, but too nervous

2117
01:42:40,093 --> 01:42:42,492
Speaker 2: to call you. I read this out because please call

2118
01:42:42,572 --> 01:42:45,452
Speaker 2: us if your female in your fifties, we'd love to

2119
01:42:45,492 --> 01:42:47,932
Speaker 2: hear a female voice on this. I've been in a

2120
01:42:47,933 --> 01:42:50,333
Speaker 2: bitcoin and crypto for years, and I believe we're all

2121
01:42:50,612 --> 01:42:52,772
Speaker 2: but we all be using some form of digital currency

2122
01:42:52,812 --> 01:42:54,852
Speaker 2: within five years. However, the tech at the moment is

2123
01:42:54,853 --> 01:42:58,132
Speaker 2: not ready for mainstream uses at the moment, as teaching

2124
01:42:58,173 --> 01:43:01,053
Speaker 2: people to self custody their own funds and to be

2125
01:43:01,093 --> 01:43:04,372
Speaker 2: safe online needs more work. Have a fabulous Christmas and

2126
01:43:04,612 --> 01:43:07,053
Speaker 2: take some time to research crypto it is here to

2127
01:43:07,093 --> 01:43:10,293
Speaker 2: stay XX. Thanks so much. But yeah, if you're never

2128
01:43:10,293 --> 01:43:11,973
Speaker 2: be nervous to call us, we'd love to hear from you.

2129
01:43:12,093 --> 01:43:15,732
Speaker 3: Absolutely good discussion that right. Because it is Friday, that

2130
01:43:15,893 --> 01:43:19,133
Speaker 3: means it's time for topical tunes, So you know the drill.

2131
01:43:19,293 --> 01:43:22,013
Speaker 3: Matt and I each pick a song related to a

2132
01:43:22,093 --> 01:43:25,692
Speaker 3: topic of the week. First to three phone call votes

2133
01:43:25,772 --> 01:43:28,293
Speaker 3: takes it out. You are in the lead by some

2134
01:43:28,412 --> 01:43:29,093
Speaker 3: margin at the moment.

2135
01:43:29,213 --> 01:43:31,812
Speaker 2: That's right, it's six to two. I believe, I believe

2136
01:43:31,812 --> 01:43:33,612
Speaker 2: it's six to two. Can we write this down because

2137
01:43:33,612 --> 01:43:35,173
Speaker 2: every week we're trying to work it out because I

2138
01:43:35,173 --> 01:43:36,772
Speaker 2: actually believe in my heart at seven to two, but

2139
01:43:36,772 --> 01:43:38,253
Speaker 2: I don't think we've been doing the show long enough

2140
01:43:38,333 --> 01:43:39,812
Speaker 2: to be that case. It feels like seven to two.

2141
01:43:39,933 --> 01:43:41,932
Speaker 2: Shall we just make it seven to two because that's

2142
01:43:41,933 --> 01:43:43,372
Speaker 2: what it feels like. Shall I go first?

2143
01:43:43,732 --> 01:43:43,932
Speaker 11: Yeah?

2144
01:43:43,973 --> 01:43:44,253
Speaker 3: Please?

2145
01:43:44,333 --> 01:43:44,492
Speaker 5: Yep?

2146
01:43:44,492 --> 01:43:45,173
Speaker 3: I start?

2147
01:43:45,532 --> 01:43:46,612
Speaker 2: Okay, we want to start?

2148
01:43:46,692 --> 01:43:46,892
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2149
01:43:46,933 --> 01:43:50,412
Speaker 2: Yeah. So yesterday we had a big chat about Christmas

2150
01:43:50,452 --> 01:43:53,892
Speaker 2: parties and how government departments are shutting them down at

2151
01:43:53,933 --> 01:43:57,532
Speaker 2: the moment to save money and for perceptions. And I

2152
01:43:57,812 --> 01:44:00,812
Speaker 2: just put the point across yesterday that I think Christmas

2153
01:44:00,853 --> 01:44:03,852
Speaker 2: party is a really important thing. I understand that some

2154
01:44:03,893 --> 01:44:05,892
Speaker 2: companies can't afford them this year, and I get that,

2155
01:44:05,933 --> 01:44:07,572
Speaker 2: but I think it's a tradition we should hold on

2156
01:44:07,612 --> 01:44:09,692
Speaker 2: to and we should do them if we can, because

2157
01:44:09,732 --> 01:44:12,732
Speaker 2: it brings people together. It's a great full stop on

2158
01:44:12,772 --> 01:44:14,732
Speaker 2: the year, and it's a way we can all celebrate

2159
01:44:14,772 --> 01:44:17,133
Speaker 2: each other and the work we've done together over the years.

2160
01:44:17,133 --> 01:44:19,053
Speaker 2: So my song is from the Beastie Boys and it's

2161
01:44:19,213 --> 01:44:29,053
Speaker 2: fight for Your Right to Parties Absolute Tune from the

2162
01:44:29,093 --> 01:44:30,293
Speaker 2: License to El album.

2163
01:44:30,412 --> 01:44:33,173
Speaker 3: That's good mate, that's good right, Okay, So my topic

2164
01:44:33,253 --> 01:44:35,253
Speaker 3: this week. I've had some issues with heat and the

2165
01:44:35,253 --> 01:44:37,772
Speaker 3: top story of our rental and there's been some great

2166
01:44:37,812 --> 01:44:39,932
Speaker 3: ideas that were sent through yesterday. I've got some work

2167
01:44:39,973 --> 01:44:42,652
Speaker 3: to do this weekend, but a lot of people are

2168
01:44:42,652 --> 01:44:44,772
Speaker 3: sent through ticks that I just need a hardened up.

2169
01:44:44,933 --> 01:44:47,372
Speaker 3: It's summertime. We love the summer, get into it. So

2170
01:44:47,412 --> 01:44:50,412
Speaker 3: I've changed my attitude and here is my song, Mungo

2171
01:44:50,532 --> 01:44:52,852
Speaker 3: Jerry in the summer time, summer time.

2172
01:45:00,293 --> 01:45:02,612
Speaker 2: On your well, you got woman, You've got woman on

2173
01:45:02,652 --> 01:45:03,012
Speaker 2: your mind?

2174
01:45:03,053 --> 01:45:05,372
Speaker 3: Tyler, I do right now. You have a great song

2175
01:45:05,412 --> 01:45:06,293
Speaker 3: from Mungo Jerry.

2176
01:45:06,412 --> 01:45:09,173
Speaker 2: If her Daddy's rich, take her out for a meal.

2177
01:45:09,293 --> 01:45:12,412
Speaker 2: If if dad is not, just do what you feel

2178
01:45:12,492 --> 01:45:13,412
Speaker 2: or you agree with that line?

2179
01:45:13,572 --> 01:45:15,932
Speaker 3: Ah yeah, yeah, a solid, solid lyric from a lot

2180
01:45:15,933 --> 01:45:18,372
Speaker 3: of people, right, you know the drill. Oh eight hundred

2181
01:45:18,652 --> 01:45:21,852
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty. What is your pick? Who's going to

2182
01:45:21,933 --> 01:45:24,972
Speaker 3: take out the topical tune this week? Nine two ninety two?

2183
01:45:24,973 --> 01:45:26,852
Speaker 3: If you want, we don't take it via text though,

2184
01:45:27,173 --> 01:45:28,652
Speaker 3: just via a phone.

2185
01:45:29,293 --> 01:45:31,932
Speaker 2: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. You've got to fight

2186
01:45:31,973 --> 01:45:32,892
Speaker 2: for your right to party?

2187
01:45:33,293 --> 01:45:34,692
Speaker 3: Is nineteen to four.

2188
01:45:36,053 --> 01:45:39,333
Speaker 1: Mattie Tyler Adams with you as your afternoon rolls on

2189
01:45:39,492 --> 01:45:43,053
Speaker 1: matt Even Tyler Adams Afternoon Us Talk said.

2190
01:45:42,772 --> 01:45:44,772
Speaker 3: Be seventeen to four quick recap.

2191
01:45:44,973 --> 01:45:47,612
Speaker 2: Yeah that's right. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. It

2192
01:45:47,652 --> 01:45:50,333
Speaker 2: is topical tunes. Tyler versus, I.

2193
01:45:52,293 --> 01:45:56,732
Speaker 3: No don't nazis just a bit of a recap on

2194
01:45:56,812 --> 01:45:57,612
Speaker 3: our songs.

2195
01:45:57,812 --> 01:46:02,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So around the issue of Christmas parties

2196
01:46:02,532 --> 01:46:06,812
Speaker 2: and some companies in public sector agencies not having them

2197
01:46:06,812 --> 01:46:10,572
Speaker 2: this year, I I'm putting forward this song by the

2198
01:46:10,572 --> 01:46:12,372
Speaker 2: Beastie Boys, you Gotta Fight?

2199
01:46:13,452 --> 01:46:14,173
Speaker 16: Are you all right?

2200
01:46:17,333 --> 01:46:17,572
Speaker 2: Six?

2201
01:46:17,772 --> 01:46:20,213
Speaker 3: What a tune from the License to l album that

2202
01:46:20,333 --> 01:46:22,372
Speaker 3: a ste by some good energy in that song. And

2203
01:46:22,412 --> 01:46:25,612
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie now. After I had some problems

2204
01:46:25,612 --> 01:46:28,532
Speaker 3: with heat and our rental and I was winging about

2205
01:46:28,572 --> 01:46:31,053
Speaker 3: it being too hot. So I've changed my attitude and

2206
01:46:31,093 --> 01:46:33,932
Speaker 3: this is my song Mungo Jerry in the Summertime.

2207
01:46:33,612 --> 01:46:38,653
Speaker 2: Summer Times group personal topics for you, isn't it? Mine's

2208
01:46:38,652 --> 01:46:40,452
Speaker 2: a national sort of nationwide topic.

2209
01:46:40,732 --> 01:46:43,293
Speaker 3: Who doesn't love the summer type though? Right, let's get

2210
01:46:43,412 --> 01:46:45,572
Speaker 3: into it. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty if you

2211
01:46:45,572 --> 01:46:47,372
Speaker 3: want to put your votes in? Kevin, how are you

2212
01:46:47,412 --> 01:46:48,052
Speaker 3: this afternoon?

2213
01:46:49,853 --> 01:46:50,133
Speaker 5: Kevin?

2214
01:46:51,293 --> 01:46:51,492
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2215
01:46:51,532 --> 01:46:51,892
Speaker 3: Goods.

2216
01:46:53,572 --> 01:46:58,372
Speaker 21: I am. Two great songs, mate, Yeah, I am. I've

2217
01:46:58,412 --> 01:47:01,492
Speaker 21: actually grown up with both these songs. And you got

2218
01:47:01,492 --> 01:47:05,532
Speaker 21: me on a bit of a turner, Tyler. I've spoken

2219
01:47:05,572 --> 01:47:08,612
Speaker 21: to you many many times on this recreation, but I'm.

2220
01:47:08,532 --> 01:47:09,372
Speaker 15: Gonna go with Matt.

2221
01:47:09,893 --> 01:47:12,213
Speaker 2: Yes, Kevin, Thank you, Kevin.

2222
01:47:12,372 --> 01:47:14,932
Speaker 3: All right, thank you very much. One for Matt, none

2223
01:47:14,973 --> 01:47:19,532
Speaker 3: for me. Get a Jenny, Hey, how are you good?

2224
01:47:19,612 --> 01:47:20,253
Speaker 3: What do you reckon?

2225
01:47:21,933 --> 01:47:22,333
Speaker 18: Tyler?

2226
01:47:22,772 --> 01:47:23,012
Speaker 2: Yep?

2227
01:47:23,133 --> 01:47:26,452
Speaker 9: I'm really sorry, Jenny.

2228
01:47:29,933 --> 01:47:30,492
Speaker 8: I'm sorry.

2229
01:47:30,492 --> 01:47:31,812
Speaker 7: That's such a cool all right.

2230
01:47:31,893 --> 01:47:33,452
Speaker 2: I love you, Jenny, thank you, thank you.

2231
01:47:33,612 --> 01:47:34,173
Speaker 3: Jenny.

2232
01:47:35,053 --> 01:47:37,972
Speaker 2: Mark could come to this. This is this is match point.

2233
01:47:39,053 --> 01:47:42,412
Speaker 3: Mark, how you doing yeah in the summertime? All the

2234
01:47:42,492 --> 01:47:45,092
Speaker 3: name Yeah, okay, good man? Not a down trail?

2235
01:47:45,213 --> 01:47:46,812
Speaker 5: What is that? Mark?

2236
01:47:48,452 --> 01:47:51,452
Speaker 9: Every every day of the week. It's absolute from you.

2237
01:47:53,013 --> 01:47:54,492
Speaker 2: I like you, Marg, You're a good man.

2238
01:47:55,173 --> 01:48:00,173
Speaker 3: I still love you, Matte, Taylor, how you doing good?

2239
01:48:00,213 --> 01:48:00,572
Speaker 5: Guys?

2240
01:48:00,732 --> 01:48:03,572
Speaker 10: Go good good now. I'm sorry, Tyler.

2241
01:48:04,013 --> 01:48:07,253
Speaker 15: That's because your name is Tyler and I'm Taylor.

2242
01:48:07,333 --> 01:48:08,412
Speaker 7: I had to go with Matt.

2243
01:48:10,333 --> 01:48:12,692
Speaker 2: Whatever reason, we don't we don't. We don't question the reasons.

2244
01:48:12,692 --> 01:48:13,732
Speaker 2: We just take the victories.

2245
01:48:13,853 --> 01:48:15,732
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Halo, Thank you very much.

2246
01:48:15,772 --> 01:48:15,972
Speaker 7: Mate.

2247
01:48:16,053 --> 01:48:19,732
Speaker 2: Man go seven to two?

2248
01:48:19,933 --> 01:48:22,253
Speaker 3: All right, let's here. You know, well done, mate. I

2249
01:48:22,293 --> 01:48:23,652
Speaker 3: like this song, yeah, generally.

2250
01:48:23,812 --> 01:48:27,133
Speaker 2: I mean it's surely a new stig d Be song,

2251
01:48:27,213 --> 01:48:27,532
Speaker 2: isn't it.

2252
01:48:31,492 --> 01:48:50,013
Speaker 16: What a tune?

2253
01:48:51,013 --> 01:49:05,372
Speaker 2: We don't have to play all of it.

2254
01:49:04,053 --> 01:49:13,253
Speaker 3: Your best classes. I'm taking BRIT's class like it so

2255
01:49:13,652 --> 01:49:14,412
Speaker 3: trying to turn.

2256
01:49:17,692 --> 01:49:19,772
Speaker 2: You gotta fight for.

2257
01:49:19,973 --> 01:49:34,972
Speaker 13: Your right to heay.

2258
01:49:29,452 --> 01:49:30,612
Speaker 15: Mom, god you're smoking.

2259
01:49:30,732 --> 01:49:38,492
Speaker 22: Massy said, no way, that give the print spoke two

2260
01:49:38,612 --> 01:49:52,772
Speaker 22: backs a day. It suck, friend, Go away your fence

2261
01:49:52,893 --> 01:49:58,053
Speaker 22: put on no man, looky, you gotta.

2262
01:49:57,893 --> 01:50:03,452
Speaker 2: Fight for your right to way.

2263
01:50:15,093 --> 01:50:16,293
Speaker 13: You gotta fight for.

2264
01:50:31,572 --> 01:50:33,293
Speaker 3: To the closing on the way.

2265
01:50:36,973 --> 01:50:39,612
Speaker 2: I'll be getting to lie home if you don't cut

2266
01:50:39,853 --> 01:50:40,532
Speaker 2: that hair.

2267
01:50:44,612 --> 01:50:47,852
Speaker 3: Your mamma, is that what's that noise?

2268
01:50:51,333 --> 01:50:53,293
Speaker 16: Oh my mommy, just jealous.

2269
01:50:53,372 --> 01:51:01,053
Speaker 13: It's not raise the boys. You gotta fight for you're right,

2270
01:51:04,253 --> 01:51:11,772
Speaker 13: say you gotta fight you're right.

2271
01:51:35,652 --> 01:51:37,053
Speaker 2: I'm so sure you do have to fight for you

2272
01:51:37,133 --> 01:51:40,852
Speaker 2: write the party, especially in these era of HR cutting

2273
01:51:40,893 --> 01:51:44,173
Speaker 2: down all the fun and people cutting back on it,

2274
01:51:44,213 --> 01:51:45,612
Speaker 2: You've got to fight for your right party.

2275
01:51:45,732 --> 01:51:48,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, bloody good song. Well done. A lot of people

2276
01:51:48,572 --> 01:51:50,532
Speaker 3: have never heard that song in their life, Matt. They're

2277
01:51:50,532 --> 01:51:52,692
Speaker 3: asking who the Beastie Boys are on Newstoks. It'd be

2278
01:51:52,973 --> 01:51:53,253
Speaker 3: dear you.

2279
01:51:53,492 --> 01:51:54,812
Speaker 2: Look, I said you didn't have to play all of that,

2280
01:51:54,853 --> 01:51:56,812
Speaker 2: but I'm glad we did. I'm glad we did.

2281
01:51:56,973 --> 01:51:57,173
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2282
01:51:57,253 --> 01:52:00,652
Speaker 3: It is ten two four after four o'clock, will catch

2283
01:52:00,732 --> 01:52:02,813
Speaker 3: up with Glane, have a chat about the cricket.

2284
01:52:04,333 --> 01:52:07,692
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2285
01:52:08,013 --> 01:52:11,732
Speaker 1: every in between. That Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons you

2286
01:52:11,933 --> 01:52:14,452
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four used talks Dead Bad B.

2287
01:52:14,893 --> 01:52:15,532
Speaker 3: Seven or four.

2288
01:52:15,933 --> 01:52:18,013
Speaker 2: We're in the tea break and the cricket down at

2289
01:52:18,093 --> 01:52:22,692
Speaker 2: the Basin Reserve and we have acc head g Lane

2290
01:52:22,772 --> 01:52:24,812
Speaker 2: with us in the studio. Been a bit of rollercoaster

2291
01:52:24,853 --> 01:52:25,572
Speaker 2: of the day, hasn't it.

2292
01:52:25,732 --> 01:52:29,412
Speaker 23: Yeah, two sessions gone two hundred and fifty nine for seven.

2293
01:52:29,933 --> 01:52:32,892
Speaker 23: The one thing I love about bears ball, you say,

2294
01:52:32,893 --> 01:52:34,772
Speaker 23: you guys off here, I feel like it's.

2295
01:52:34,692 --> 01:52:35,612
Speaker 2: Just four one days.

2296
01:52:36,173 --> 01:52:38,452
Speaker 23: It's just four one day innings with bas ball, because

2297
01:52:38,492 --> 01:52:41,173
Speaker 23: this game is so advanced. I'd say it's pretty even

2298
01:52:41,173 --> 01:52:43,572
Speaker 23: Stevens at this stage when he had them forty three

2299
01:52:43,652 --> 01:52:46,412
Speaker 23: for four and then one hundred and fifty run partnership.

2300
01:52:46,532 --> 01:52:49,052
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we're just so punishing you quick.

2301
01:52:48,893 --> 01:52:49,932
Speaker 3: Wickets Nathan Smith.

2302
01:52:49,973 --> 01:52:52,333
Speaker 23: Though just before t you got the crucial wicket, piece

2303
01:52:52,372 --> 01:52:56,772
Speaker 23: of individual brilliance running out Brook for one hundred and

2304
01:52:56,812 --> 01:52:58,572
Speaker 23: twenty three. So they've gone to the tea break, so

2305
01:52:58,652 --> 01:53:00,492
Speaker 23: we're going to have two new batsmen at the crease.

2306
01:53:00,532 --> 01:53:02,973
Speaker 23: One new batsman and Chris Woke's at the crease. So

2307
01:53:03,093 --> 01:53:04,372
Speaker 23: I think we'll be batting before the end.

2308
01:53:04,333 --> 01:53:06,452
Speaker 2: Of the day's play. And we've remembered how to catch again.

2309
01:53:06,612 --> 01:53:08,293
Speaker 2: An absolute scrammer from Darryl Mitchell.

2310
01:53:08,333 --> 01:53:10,893
Speaker 23: Oh yes, son of a Mitch, he absolute scrama and

2311
01:53:11,013 --> 01:53:15,013
Speaker 23: look Latham two from two after dropping having the drop

2312
01:53:15,093 --> 01:53:17,612
Speaker 23: seas last times, it's going to be our game.

2313
01:53:17,772 --> 01:53:20,053
Speaker 2: That's the thing about catches an international cricket. They can

2314
01:53:20,093 --> 01:53:22,972
Speaker 2: all do it and but it's just once people start

2315
01:53:23,013 --> 01:53:24,932
Speaker 2: thinking about it, when they start going, oh oh, there's

2316
01:53:24,973 --> 01:53:27,173
Speaker 2: been two catches drop, I've been not drop this one.

2317
01:53:27,253 --> 01:53:29,532
Speaker 2: That's a problem. So when we start catching, we'll keep catching.

2318
01:53:29,853 --> 01:53:31,812
Speaker 23: Tod We've taken all of our catches yew Zealand.

2319
01:53:31,853 --> 01:53:32,253
Speaker 5: It's okay.

2320
01:53:32,452 --> 01:53:34,772
Speaker 2: So how do you think it's poised right now? So

2321
01:53:35,133 --> 01:53:36,612
Speaker 2: what do we need them out for? So it's two

2322
01:53:36,652 --> 01:53:38,572
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty nine for seven. You don't want to

2323
01:53:38,612 --> 01:53:40,772
Speaker 2: put someone into bat, a team into bat and then

2324
01:53:40,812 --> 01:53:41,692
Speaker 2: to get over three hundred.

2325
01:53:41,973 --> 01:53:42,492
Speaker 11: No we don't.

2326
01:53:42,532 --> 01:53:44,333
Speaker 23: We need to get them before three hundred because they've

2327
01:53:44,372 --> 01:53:47,772
Speaker 23: got I mean annoyingly. Their next batsman, Gus Atkinson has

2328
01:53:47,812 --> 01:53:50,652
Speaker 23: got a Test century and he's batting at nine, and

2329
01:53:50,732 --> 01:53:53,133
Speaker 23: then Brighton cars who comes in at ten, has two

2330
01:53:53,213 --> 01:53:55,932
Speaker 23: first class centuries. But their number eleven is a genuine

2331
01:53:56,013 --> 01:53:59,333
Speaker 23: number eleven. Last year he would be a number eleven

2332
01:53:59,412 --> 01:54:02,173
Speaker 23: and a team of number eleven. So if we get

2333
01:54:02,213 --> 01:54:04,133
Speaker 23: them on that for two eighty two ninety, I think

2334
01:54:04,133 --> 01:54:05,572
Speaker 23: it would be in New Zeald's day and then if

2335
01:54:05,572 --> 01:54:09,093
Speaker 23: we're forty without loss the day picking, that's going to

2336
01:54:09,093 --> 01:54:09,772
Speaker 23: be New Zeal's day.

2337
01:54:09,933 --> 01:54:11,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's still a bit of there's still a

2338
01:54:11,452 --> 01:54:13,093
Speaker 2: bit of something in the in the wicket, isn't there.

2339
01:54:13,173 --> 01:54:15,452
Speaker 2: I think a bit of bounce. Was getting a bit

2340
01:54:15,452 --> 01:54:17,812
Speaker 2: of bounce the basin reserve pitch.

2341
01:54:18,053 --> 01:54:20,213
Speaker 23: It does tend to get a bit more bounced than usual.

2342
01:54:20,532 --> 01:54:20,852
Speaker 5: I think.

2343
01:54:20,933 --> 01:54:22,412
Speaker 23: I don't think it's going to take as much turn

2344
01:54:22,452 --> 01:54:24,492
Speaker 23: as last year because I see we had the Australians there,

2345
01:54:24,652 --> 01:54:26,093
Speaker 23: it was the end of summer. It had a bit

2346
01:54:26,173 --> 01:54:27,732
Speaker 23: more to it in terms of turning. I don't think

2347
01:54:27,772 --> 01:54:31,333
Speaker 23: this one's the same. It's early season, but it'll flatten

2348
01:54:31,372 --> 01:54:33,533
Speaker 23: out and turn into a road. We'll score seven hundred

2349
01:54:33,613 --> 01:54:34,173
Speaker 23: more boyl them out.

2350
01:54:34,253 --> 01:54:35,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well that's the kind of thing with this is

2351
01:54:35,693 --> 01:54:37,093
Speaker 2: like do you want do you want to leave them

2352
01:54:37,133 --> 01:54:38,973
Speaker 2: in just a little bit longer so it gets a

2353
01:54:38,973 --> 01:54:41,493
Speaker 2: little bit easier for our batting. Yeah, we want to

2354
01:54:41,493 --> 01:54:44,292
Speaker 2: buy them all out. That would be a crazy strategy.

2355
01:54:45,493 --> 01:54:48,733
Speaker 23: There'll be three fifty you're going at five or six

2356
01:54:48,812 --> 01:54:51,653
Speaker 23: and over. This is this is bears ball, classic bearsargines,

2357
01:54:51,772 --> 01:54:52,573
Speaker 23: very advanced and the.

2358
01:54:52,693 --> 01:54:55,693
Speaker 2: Basin looks beautiful. What a fantastic round it is. It

2359
01:54:55,853 --> 01:54:57,933
Speaker 2: was the New Zealand of the Week this week on

2360
01:54:58,133 --> 01:54:59,533
Speaker 2: the Matton Tyler Afternoons on.

2361
01:54:59,613 --> 01:55:02,092
Speaker 3: ZB Well deserved. How the spectators down at the basin

2362
01:55:02,133 --> 01:55:04,333
Speaker 3: looking actually getting a little bit raucerus at the stage.

2363
01:55:04,453 --> 01:55:06,733
Speaker 23: Yeah, look it's a it's a little bit breezy down there,

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Speaker 23: but old out Saturday, so dress update tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: That's going to be pretty loose down there in the base. Well,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: C head G Lane and where can people listen to

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Speaker 23: it's alternative for a reason.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you listening today. It's been a fantastic chat.

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Speaker 2: The Mattin Tile Afternoons podcast will be out very soon.

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